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zigbaldi
05-19-2005, 04:16 AM
guess i can change my profile now.....ok, done

shoegal_97
05-19-2005, 10:34 AM
awesome, from what I could see. I wasn't able to pay all my attention to the episode BUT, towards the end I did. I was so excited to see Irina! And I was also glad Dixon was gettin sum...but damn did he have to get shot again!?! The only thing I have a question is....I couldn't tell , is Sloane really bad again or do they just think he is but he isn't???

JimiThang1
05-19-2005, 12:16 PM
Supposedly he is bad again...but it remains to be seen. Watch him get caught and be like well I was going undercover to take her down from the inside.

MrCrowley
05-19-2005, 12:17 PM
never seen it, guess i should check it out

Talula62
05-19-2005, 12:57 PM
Um - those were the spoilers, pretty much ziggy. Right? Vaughn would propose, Lena Olin, Irina is alive.........I think that was it.

JimiThang1
05-19-2005, 02:44 PM
As much as I loved the two episodes last night...did anyone else feel the flow between the two was strange? I know it all has to do with their decision to reorganize the Lost finale to 3 hours instead of 90 minutes for the finales of both of these, but it was just weird with Dixon saying "your mother was alive" and then go right into the next episode with her mother in the first scene. I think if it would of aired like it was originally going to with a week break I think the impact would of been way more intense.

Talula62
05-19-2005, 03:19 PM
Well, it might have been more intense waiting for a week, but I think it was plenty intense. "Syd, it was your mother" cut to - ground, fantastic silver shoes, slow-motion dramatic entrance, pan up a fantastic body to IRINA. I mean, that's good shit.

zigbaldi
05-19-2005, 04:38 PM
Um - those were the spoilers, pretty much ziggy. Right? Vaughn would propose, Lena Olin, Irina is alive.........I think that was it.

why is my name bold?

shoegal_97
05-19-2005, 05:19 PM
Supposedly he is bad again...but it remains to be seen. Watch him get caught and be like well I was going undercover to take her down from the inside.


i was thinking that aswell

JimiThang1
05-19-2005, 05:48 PM
2,000 bitches...

snapmcd
05-19-2005, 09:22 PM
never seen it, guess i should check it out

Indeed. Welcome to Ants! :)

penn darvis
05-19-2005, 10:57 PM
I missed last night's episode because I went to the free Audioslave show in Hollywood for Jimmy Kimmel (fuck Jimmy Kimmel and the "free" concert). But I taped the episode and it was awesome. The continuity between the two was rough because there was no commercial break.

JimiThang1
05-19-2005, 10:58 PM
The continuity between the two was rough because there was no commercial break.
Exactly, glad I wasn't the only one who felt that way.

zigbaldi
05-20-2005, 04:13 AM
i wish this week was 2 hours and last week just 1. i would have been alot better if dixon said: "it was your mother, she is alive" and then we had to wait 1 week. more dramatic

Talula62
05-20-2005, 11:46 AM
why is my name bold?

Because it is in the middle of a paragraph of stuff and bolding it is easier for you to see that it's a response to you. I do it all the time, habitually, on other boards.


:)

zigbaldi
05-20-2005, 06:07 PM
Because it is in the middle of a paragraph of stuff and bolding it is easier for you to see that it's a response to you. I do it all the time, habitually, on other boards.


:)

gottcha

JimiThang1
05-22-2005, 02:04 AM
After rewatching the previous episodes it is my conclusion that Nadia is going to die. The prophecy will come to a head I believe in the next episode. That is all...

penn darvis
05-22-2005, 02:16 AM
I think so too. Maybe that will be the cliffhanger.

JimiThang1
05-22-2005, 02:18 AM
Probably...

penn darvis
05-22-2005, 02:52 AM
Do you know something I don't?

JimiThang1
05-22-2005, 03:13 AM
Oh no just my speculation after further analysis of the two previous episodes.

Talula62
05-22-2005, 03:24 PM
After rewatching the previous episodes it is my conclusion that Nadia is going to die. The prophecy will come to a head I believe in the next episode. That is all...

I can't decide if I think she'll die or if she'll go bad. Maybe Elena and Sloane will do something to her to make her leave APO and go with them. But I don't think that'll be the cliffhanger. I feel like it'll be totally out there.

shoegal_97
05-22-2005, 03:31 PM
^My dad watches the show and thats his speculation....I tend to believe she might die though, like Derek said he was speculating on

snapmcd
05-22-2005, 03:35 PM
It's intriguing to consider Nadia as a nemesis for Sydney--like a new version of Anna.

And I'll say it--I could go for a bad Nadia/Sark hookup. :rolleyes

shoegal_97
05-22-2005, 04:05 PM
And I'll say it--I could go for a bad Nadia/Sark hookup. :rolleyes



+1 LOVING that :D

snapmcd
05-22-2005, 04:06 PM
+1 LOVING that :D

Why thank you. :p

Talula62
05-22-2005, 05:04 PM
And I'll say it--I could go for a bad Nadia/Sark hookup. :rolleyes

Oooooooohhhh - that's NICE. I think I could go for that myself. :thumbsup

JimiThang1
05-22-2005, 06:38 PM
Going evil would be interesting...

penn darvis
05-22-2005, 07:23 PM
Given Mia Maestro's status for next season, I'm pretty sure she won't die in the finale.

zigbaldi
05-23-2005, 12:17 AM
if nadia was evil that would explain the whole syd/nadia duel that that prophecy tells us. that would explain WHY they are fighting, WHAT they are fighting over is a different story.

imagine how syd would feel if nadia betrayed her? as if she hasn't been through enough already.

Has anyone heard what is going on with the show now that she is...you know, pregnent? I thought i read somewhere that they already started shooting season 5 so that they could get as much done before she gets too fat. can anyone confirm?

JimiThang1
05-23-2005, 12:27 AM
can anyone confirm?
Nope they are done for the season. They begin pre-production work in June and July then begin shooting again in August. Word is that the cast feels this next season may be the last.

penn darvis
05-23-2005, 12:37 AM
http://www.insidetv.com/thisjustin/

Talula62
05-24-2005, 02:34 PM
I dunno that these ever make a difference at all, and it's not like JJ doesn't already know it, but just in case........here is a link to the Bring Back David Anders petition. :)

http://www.petitiononline.com/lec223/petition.html

JimiThang1
05-24-2005, 02:40 PM
ok??? Of course he'll be back in some form or fashion...

Talula62
05-24-2005, 02:46 PM
Well, I think the argument is that one or two episodes is insufficient. And I agree. It's like bring him back like in season 2.

Paula - here is a link to promo pics for Kitchen Confidential - Bradley Cooper's new show: http://bradley-cooper.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=127

JimiThang1
05-24-2005, 02:48 PM
He'll probably be back more next season since we now know the covenant was formed by Elena. Sark's role in all of that was huge.

Talula62
05-24-2005, 03:01 PM
True. I just hope it's for lots of eps!!! Like, at least half!!! If Lena comes back for any at all, which let's hope she will - I'd think Sark would have to be around. They used to work together. Now, why would Sark go and work for Elena. I wonder if he knew. I think I'll have to rewatch Season 3 this summer - I wonder if it would tell us anything that now makes sense but didn't really matter back then.

JimiThang1
05-24-2005, 03:25 PM
It's kind of weird though...all of season 2 Sark sided with Sloane and Irina and then season 3 now that Elena was behind the covenant he sided with her.

Talula62
05-24-2005, 04:05 PM
Yeah I know. It doesn't make any sense. Maybe he didn't know? Cuz didn't they just spring him from CIA custody in exchange for his inheritance? He was basically funding the Covenant and because they were following Rambaldi, he just went along with them? Maybe he thought it was Irina but it wasn't? He must have learned at some point. Lauren seems to have known, sorta.

JimiThang1
05-24-2005, 04:08 PM
Known that it was Elena behind it?

Talula62
05-24-2005, 05:16 PM
Maybe, yeah. She did tell Syd that they were both pawns in the same game but that she (lauren) knew who controlled her (lauren). That could mean 27 things though probably.

penn darvis
05-25-2005, 12:27 AM
Maybe, yeah. She did tell Syd that they were both pawns in the same game but that she (lauren) knew who controlled her (lauren). That could mean 27 things though probably.
None of which were addressed this season.

It's probably better off that way. I'm just going to forget there was a 3rd season and a character named Lauren.

JimiThang1
05-25-2005, 12:33 AM
Well we did see her body...

zigbaldi
05-25-2005, 01:07 AM
Well we did see her body...

just like syd and Nadia ID'ed Irina's body in the season premiere. this is alias:)

Talula62
05-25-2005, 01:11 AM
If Lauren was cloned I might go insane..If anyone is cloned again I might go insane.

JimiThang1
05-25-2005, 01:12 AM
She ain't coming back...especially since the way she spouted her yappin' mouth a few months ago...talula will agree with me.

zigbaldi
05-25-2005, 01:18 AM
Yeah I know. It doesn't make any sense. Maybe he didn't know? Cuz didn't they just spring him from CIA custody in exchange for his inheritance? He was basically funding the Covenant and because they were following Rambaldi, he just went along with them? Maybe he thought it was Irina but it wasn't? He must have learned at some point. Lauren seems to have known, sorta.


he really didnt help them in exchange for his freedom, he was forced into the covenent, they made him give them his $800 million. and i dont really no if her found out who was top dog in the covenent, because when he went to meet Cole(please come back quentin, please)Cole uttered one of my favorite lines: "im the man in front of the man." He also told sark that he would be the top covenent agent in which sark would be dealing with. He might have found out later in the season, like maybe form lauren, but we dont know if she really knew who THE MAN is.

I remember reading Alais magazine before the season started and J.J. said what we would find out who THE MAN is. im thinking Elena is, but they didn't flat out say she is. they said last episode that she was using the covenent to collect rambaldi artifacts, but they didn't say she was the man, per-say. i wonder if she is, or if she is working along with THE MAN. she probably is, but i hope there is someone else too. maybe sloane is THE MAN. he is now working with her, although i beleive he isnt really bad(i mean he is, but not yet)he is trying to bring her down. but if he is really working to help her then maybe he is THE MAN

zigbaldi
05-25-2005, 01:19 AM
She ain't coming back...especially since the way she spouted her yappin' mouth a few months ago...talula will agree with me.

why what did she say?

JimiThang1
05-25-2005, 01:31 AM
Basically to the effect that she's the shit and gloating about herself to no end...

zigbaldi
05-25-2005, 01:38 AM
thats stupid. well i thought i read somewhere pretty recently that J.J. said he is open to the return of lauren. we'll see if that ever happens

zigbaldi
05-25-2005, 01:40 AM
If Lena comes back for any at all, which let's hope she will

did you read the TV Guide with everybody loves raymond on the cover? in that issue there is a macked out article about Lena, and she sounds pretty sure she is back for good, and will be in season 5. sounds awesome to me. Irina is the best thing EVER!!:hump

zigbaldi
05-25-2005, 01:43 AM
Nope they are done for the season. They begin pre-production work in June and July then begin shooting again in August. Word is that the cast feels this next season may be the last.

thats what i heard. so they will be shooting for season 5 soon then. where did you hear they feel it could be the last? and who feels this way, which members of the cast? has J.J. said anything? and arent they under contract through 2007? can that be voided at anytime or something?

JimiThang1
05-25-2005, 01:43 AM
well i thought i read somewhere pretty recently that J.J. said he is open to the return of lauren.
That was before she had all these interviews. She did all these interviews during her promotion for Amityville Horror and they asked her about Alias and it was at that point she began gloating about herself. But JJ is a smart guy and knows what the fans want. And they don't want her.

Talula62
05-25-2005, 01:44 AM
she said she had story ideas for them. please, like they need story ideas from you melissa. :BANG and i personally think jj was largely being nice in saying those things. partly serious if the story would benefit, but i really think he knows he should focus on getting lena and david in the storylines.

Zig - well, I'm not sure how to talk about this. It's like, I sorta can't cuz you don't read spoilers. But then again, basically, the spoilers about the head of the covenant came to be in last week's ep, so I think that means they aren't spoilers anymore. :lol

I'll tag this anyway. You decide. Sources said we'd A.) find out who the head of the covenant is this season. Later they said B.) It is Elena.

JimiThang1
05-25-2005, 01:48 AM
thats what i heard. so they will be shooting for season 5 soon then. where did you hear they feel it could be the last? and who feels this way, which members of the cast? has J.J. said anything? and arent they under contract through 2007? can that be voided at anytime or something?
Vartan was the first to say he feels it might be the last. JJ hasn't said anything yet. The only one under contract through 2008 is Jennifer Garner. The show is renewed on a season by season basis and ABC can pull the plug at anytime (ABC seems to be the only network not to make multi-year contracts for shows, even though the bastards produce their own shows through Touchstone...it's all fuckin Disney).

zigbaldi
05-25-2005, 01:57 AM
she said she had story ideas for them. please, like they need story ideas from you melissa. :BANG and i personally think jj was largely being nice in saying those things. partly serious if the story would benefit, but i really think he knows he should focus on getting lena and david in the storylines.

Zig - well, I'm not sure how to talk about this. It's like, I sorta can't cuz you don't read spoilers. But then again, basically, the spoilers about the head of the covenant came to be in last week's ep, so I think that means they aren't spoilers anymore. :lol
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yeah i guess its not a spoiler now. you answered my question. thats what i figured

zigbaldi
05-25-2005, 01:58 AM
Vartan was the first to say he feels it might be the last. JJ hasn't said anything yet. The only one under contract through 2008 is Jennifer Garner. The show is renewed on a season by season basis and ABC can pull the plug at anytime (ABC seems to be the only network not to make multi-year contracts for shows, even though the bastards produce their own shows through Touchstone...it's all fuckin Disney).

is the reason some feel this way because of the baby, or is there other problems?

JimiThang1
05-25-2005, 02:00 AM
is the reason some feel this way because of the baby, or is there other problems?
Vartan said he feels one more season would tie everything up nicely.

Talula62
05-25-2005, 02:04 AM
I think he's right.

zigbaldi
05-25-2005, 02:05 AM
what the hell does vartan know? if thats all then i wont be worried unless J.J. says something or Jen says she wants time off with the baby or something like that. If in vartan's brain 1 more season would be good and he wants to go, then kill him off. they dont need him.

Talula: they can bring Will back to replace him:lol


Speaking of Will, i saw those pics you linked of him. is his new show a comedy? im hoping it will tank and J.J. brings him back

zigbaldi
05-25-2005, 02:05 AM
I think he's right.

in that you only want 1 more as well? i pray to god there is more than 1 season left!!

JimiThang1
05-25-2005, 02:08 AM
I agree with Vartan too actually, more and more of the mythology is being solved and there is only so much more you can go with it. If they go longer, I'm afraid they might turn it into a clusterfuck of what the latter seasons of the X-Files were. Hell, the first 8 or so episodes of Alias this season are examples of that.

Talula62
05-25-2005, 02:13 AM
in that you only want 1 more as well? i pray to god there is more than 1 season left!!

Well, Vartan didn't actually say he WANTED one more season, right? But, that one more season would wrap things up nicely? And I have to say - in one season, they'd be able to focus on on really nuts-mackworthy storyline. I'd say two more seasons would be perfect. ETA: Actually, no, 6 seasons would be okay. I don't know what perfect would be. :lol

But, if it's a choice between ending at Season 7 and ending at Season 5 - I think I lean towards 5. But, I'd just be afraid they'd go bonkers with 6 and fuck it up again. I dunno. This isn't the type of show that can last for 8 years.

zigbaldi
05-25-2005, 02:14 AM
I agree with Vartan too actually, more and more of the mythology is being solved and there is only so much more you can go with it. If they go longer, I'm afraid they might turn it into a clusterfuck of what the latter seasons of the X-Files were. Hell, the first 8 or so episodes of Alias this season are examples of that.

true. although i have faith in J.J. He is one of the most talented, if not THE most talented creator out there, and im sure he will do what ever is best. the man is a genius. im sure he could keep it going without it us getting bored with it. although if it does become blah, then i agree that it should end whle still really good. we'll see

JimiThang1
05-25-2005, 02:15 AM
Well, Vartan didn't actually say he WANTED one more season, right? But, that one more season would wrap things up nicely?
He just said he thought things would be wrapped up with one more season. To add to what I said above, my opinion of all that might change depending on tomorrow nights episode.

zigbaldi
05-25-2005, 02:16 AM
This isn't the type of show that can last for 8 years.

i dont know, maybe rambaldi himself would come back! that could make things interesting for quite a while!:lol

JimiThang1
05-25-2005, 02:17 AM
true. although i have faith in J.J. He is one of the most talented, if not THE most talented creator out there, and im sure he will do what ever is best. the man is a genius. im sure he could keep it going without it us getting bored with it. although if it does become blah, then i agree that it should end whle still really good. we'll see
Next year will be the test because he won't have much involvement with Alias (and Lost for that matter) at all due to MI:3 filming and post-production through the end of the year. Though he didn't have much involvement this season either of Alias since Lost was starting up. Notice he only wrote the opener this season.

Talula62
05-25-2005, 02:17 AM
Yeah, that's true - I mean, I don't doubt that the writers/producers/JJ/actors COULD do amazing things for a long time, but with the status of these people?? JJ has like all kinds of shows in the works all the time and if this show were to stay on for a long time, I'd want JJ to devote a very, very large chunk of time to it. :)

zigbaldi
05-25-2005, 02:17 AM
my opinion of all that might change depending on tomorrow nights episode.

yeah, lets see what crazy crap goes down!

Talula62
05-25-2005, 02:19 AM
Word. Tomorrow night will be very telling.

zigbaldi
05-25-2005, 02:19 AM
id want J.J. to devote alot of time to it as well. you know what he is?

macked outta his own nuts

Talula62
05-25-2005, 02:20 AM
Oh, I can't read it Zig! You apparently can't quote and spoiler something in the same post around here.

Nevermind. :lol That's true - he definitely is.

zigbaldi
05-25-2005, 02:20 AM
fixed

Talula62
05-25-2005, 02:21 AM
:lol

shoegal_97
05-25-2005, 01:52 PM
Talula: they can bring Will back to replace him:lol



mmm I like this idea :thumbsup :D

Talula62
05-25-2005, 03:37 PM
Yeah, that's a pretty good idea.

Here (http://et.tv.yahoo.com/mf/frame?mfurl=lid=wmv-100-s.15480810,wmv-300-s.15480812,wmv-56-s.15480813&p=tv&c=p3&.skin=et&f=96141170&dist=Paramount%20Pictures,%20TM%20and%20) is a link to a video interview for ET with Jen, Victor, and Lena. No spoilers. Has this already been posted?

JimiThang1
05-25-2005, 03:46 PM
Interesting...Jen always seems so dumb when she's interviewed though...

zigbaldi
05-25-2005, 03:55 PM
thats a pretty good interview. the video wasn't synced though, very choppy. i hope lena stays!! STAY!!!!!

Talula62
05-25-2005, 03:57 PM
I think it's just goofiness. I think she's cute and humble. If she were not being asked questions about herself, I'd expect different. Like, when she's asked about Victor - she isn't always goofy. When she's asked about her characters, she can get very serious.

zigbaldi
05-25-2005, 03:59 PM
she sounds freakin HOT to me.

malarks26
05-25-2005, 04:37 PM
Do you think they wont' start the show again until January next season like they did this past season? Also, do you think it will have anything to do with her being pregnant??

JimiThang1
05-25-2005, 04:43 PM
No they are starting it in September since they are moving it to Thursday's at 8pm. I did read that it might be possible that they may put it on hiatus for 2 months to air some new drama then bring it back for the end...but who knows.

zigbaldi
05-25-2005, 05:06 PM
well the baby is due in Nov, right? so i dont know how long she can continue to shoot. im guessing around Sep she will have to stop. So they better hurry and get all of the shots with her in them done this summer. and who knows how long after she has the baby it will be untill she resumes shooting. im thinking around Jan or feb. it probably would make more sense to do the show how they did it this year and not air any till Jan. That way they will probably have like 8-10 done this summer and they can show those in Jan-feb and by that time she will be back and shooting more scenes

JimiThang1
05-25-2005, 05:12 PM
well the baby is due in Nov, right? so i dont know how long she can continue to shoot. im guessing around Sep she will have to stop. So they better hurry and get all of the shots with her in them done this summer. and who knows how long after she has the baby it will be untill she resumes shooting. im thinking around Jan or feb. it probably would make more sense to do the show how they did it this year and not air any till Jan. That way they will probably have like 8-10 done this summer and they can show those in Jan-feb and by that time she will be back and shooting more scenes
The thing is she is filming a movie, "Catch and Release" this summer. So that kind of voids that. Filming isn't going to begin for Alias until at least mid-August. They need two months of pre-production for this type of show.

zigbaldi
05-25-2005, 06:26 PM
i wonder then how they will air the show in Sept if they dont start shooting til august. pretty soon after that she will be too fat to shoot anymore. so what are they going to do air like 4 episodes and then make us wait for like 4 months until they can make more episodes? they should just wait till january again

Talula62
05-25-2005, 06:27 PM
Catch and Release sounds good, btw. Though, I can't remember what I actually read about it - I just remember liking what I read. :lol

I hope she has no complications anyway, but particularly not any that require total bedrest, ala Debra Messing. That would screw it all up. And also suck for her, of course.

shoegal_97
05-25-2005, 06:27 PM
it'll all come together.. these people are professionals...come on now, have faith!
Focus on whats important now...Tonight :bounce

Talula62
05-25-2005, 06:31 PM
Yeah, they'll figure it out somehow. And the pregnancy is totally going to be IN the show.

shoegal_97
05-25-2005, 06:34 PM
Catch and Release sounds good, btw. Though, I can't remember what I actually read about it - I just remember liking what I read. :lol

I hope she has no complications anyway, but particularly not any that require total bedrest, ala Debra Messing. That would screw it all up. And also suck for her, of course.


yeah debra messing got HUGE! You could totally tell she was pregnant!

JimiThang1
05-25-2005, 06:35 PM
i wonder then how they will air the show in Sept if they dont start shooting til august. pretty soon after that she will be too fat to shoot anymore. so what are they going to do air like 4 episodes and then make us wait for like 4 months until they can make more episodes? they should just wait till january again
There is maybe a 3 week turnaround from filming to when you first see it...plus I'm guessing a last week of September/first week of October premiere anyways. That's when DH and Lost premiered this past fall. They can easily have 4-5 episodes in the bag before season premiere, and still working on more when it does premiere.

Talula62
05-25-2005, 06:45 PM
I think the cliffhanger will be about Vaughn. A Vaughn, both Vaughns, THE Vaughn - whatever. You heard it here first. :thumbsup

penn darvis
05-25-2005, 06:53 PM
Thanks for the video.

I'm really excited for tonight.

snapmcd
05-25-2005, 11:46 PM
Zombies? Really? :freak

:BANG

snapmcd
05-25-2005, 11:58 PM
"For starters..."

NICE!

JimiThang1
05-25-2005, 11:59 PM
Well that was lovely...

gypsie
05-26-2005, 12:02 AM
I don't normally post in here although I love Alias and often come in here because I am interested in what you have to say.

I loved this episode but I hate cliffhangers especially when we have to wait over 4 months to find out the details:BANG

AlpineValley804
05-26-2005, 12:08 AM
That season finale...wow...

Talula62
05-26-2005, 12:10 AM
Oh sweetness. The Alias boards are going NUTS. I can barely get in.

Also, I totally called the cliffy. Secondly, someone else totally called the car crash. Thirdly - NO ONE called the Non-Vaughn.

Oh, and I hate zombies with a passion. But whatever. :thumbsup

I am so into this shady past thing with Vaughn. Okay, I wanna know who he was working for. Could he have been working for Irina, even though she killed his dad?? Hmmmm.....

JimiThang1
05-26-2005, 12:13 AM
Yea as soon as they zoomed in on santa barbara I was like they are going to crash...but damn non-vaughn what the hell...how does that go with his dad they both share the same last name?

Talula62
05-26-2005, 12:14 AM
:lol Shit. Nice point Derek. Then, WTF???????

ETA: Maybe Bill Vaughn was Russian and Vaughn was his American CIA name??

Evans
05-26-2005, 12:16 AM
Oh sweetness. The Alias boards are going NUTS. I can barely get in.

Also, I totally called the cliffy. Secondly, someone else totally called the car crash. Thirdly - NO ONE called the Non-Vaughn.

Oh, and I hate zombies with a passion. But whatever. :thumbsup

I am so into this shady past thing with Vaughn. Okay, I wanna know who he was working for. Could he have been working for Irina, even though she killed his dad?? Hmmmm.....

yes but did you notice that comment Irina made to Vaughn when they were alone together? She said something like "you aren't as covert as you think you are"....well, Vaughn had just said something like "you killed my father"...maybe Irina was alluding to the fact that Vaughn is not Vaughn. In other words, Irina did kill "vaughn's" father, but the person we all know as Vaughn really isn't Vaughn.

Talula62
05-26-2005, 12:27 AM
Ohhhhh - so like, Vaughn doesn't know Irina knows that Vaughn isn't Vaughn?? Like, he's acting like "you killed my father and i'm mad" but it wasn't HIS father. Wow - that is some deep cover.

Except that way back in Season 2, he was very visibly affected by meeting Irina. And he was alone at the time. Right? Unless he was being videotaped - anyone remember if they had surveillance on Irina's cell?

Evans
05-26-2005, 12:29 AM
Ohhhhh - so like, Vaughn doesn't know Irina knows that Vaughn isn't Vaughn?? Like, he's acting like "you killed my father and i'm mad" but it wasn't HIS father. Wow - that is some deep cover.

Except that way back in Season 2, he was very visibly affected by meeting Irina. And he was alone at the time. Right? Unless he was being videotaped - anyone remember if they had surveillance on Irina's cell?

Yeah, they had the cameras on her cell.

On another note, i totally jumped when the car hit them...i figured the accident would happen but not like that.

Talula62
05-26-2005, 12:31 AM
I agree on the car crash - nuts. My dad rewinded 3 times and then palyed slow-mo twice. :rolleyes

And, no, I couldn't tell anything about who was driving the car. :lol It was a dude.

zigbaldi
05-26-2005, 12:40 AM
I agree on the car crash - nuts. My dad rewinded 3 times and then palyed slow-mo twice. :rolleyes

And, no, I couldn't tell anything about who was driving the car. :lol It was a dude.

i watched it in slow mo too, definetly a man

JimiThang1
05-26-2005, 12:44 AM
I can't wait to download it so we can do screencaps...

Talula62
05-26-2005, 12:46 AM
So, I'm betting that Vaughn didn't actually know who Syd was (rambaldi-wise) when he was assigned to be her handler. Remember how hard Irina was pushing for him and her to get together in Season 2?? He's gotta be in the prophecy. He's her protector. I've read spec on this, I think - or maybe it's already been talked about on the show? I can't keep anything straight right now.

JimiThang1
05-26-2005, 12:53 AM
No you're going somewhere with that...he has to be the protector. There is a reason they are together.

Talula62
05-26-2005, 12:58 AM
But, I don't think he knew that he was part of it when he started. If he didn't, Irina was behind it. If he did know - that I haven't figured out yet.

shoegal_97
05-26-2005, 01:00 AM
i just saw the finale, what THE HECK!!!!!!!!

Talula62
05-26-2005, 01:06 AM
Okay, Bill Vaughn has to be Vaughn's father. Because both Brill and Irina said he looks just like him.

shoegal_97
05-26-2005, 01:06 AM
ok i just went back and read your guys posts. I totally didnt catch Irina telling Vaughn he wasn't as covert as he thought he was. So that must mean she knows his secret...and the guy drving the car, must have known Vaughn was telling sydney his secret?

ltlmac41
05-26-2005, 01:07 AM
i just saw the finale, what THE HECK!!!!!!!!

What if he is like one of those guys from the Last Crusade that were sworn to protect the "cup of Christ", but only for Rambaldi? That would be cool...

Talula62
05-26-2005, 01:09 AM
Yeah, I mean, if Nadia had protectors - Syd had to have had some too. Now, the freaky thing is - HOW DOES JACK NOT KNOW????

Oh, by the way - the whole Irina-Jack exchange before they shot Elena right between the eyes??? Priceless.

ETA: Oh yeah Paula - good question. Was the crash an accident? And if not, why on earth would anyone think that he was going to tell her? And who would give a crap?

JimiThang1
05-26-2005, 01:11 AM
Oh i'm sure the crash was no accident...there is someone out there that didn't want them to be together.

ltlmac41
05-26-2005, 01:13 AM
Oh i'm sure the crash was no accident...there is someone out there that didn't want them to be together.

It was Sarc... :multi

shoegal_97
05-26-2005, 01:13 AM
Yeah, I mean, if Nadia had protectors - Syd had to have had some too. Now, the freaky thing is - HOW DOES JACK NOT KNOW????

Oh, by the way - the whole Irina-Jack exchange before they shot Elena right between the eyes??? Priceless.

ETA: Oh yeah Paula - good question. Was the crash an accident? And if not, why on earth would anyone think that he was going to tell her? And who would give a crap?

yeah and the whole thing about Vaugh saying about being a bad guy "that depends on who you ask" what does that mean? who could he have been working for? And why would Vaughn be her protector? And does him being married to Lauren in season 3 have anything to do with this? Aww man this is driving me crazy!

Talula62
05-26-2005, 01:13 AM
Definitely - the same person who sent Lauren??? Wait - she's supposedly dead. Oh my brain is boiling.

shoegal_97
05-26-2005, 01:14 AM
It was Sarc... :multi


that would be interesting but i dont think so...but maybe.. :lorraine i dont know!!

JimiThang1
05-26-2005, 01:20 AM
It's Lauren or Sark...I'm leaning towards Sark (since it's a guy driving) but Lauren's behind it I'm sure...

ltlmac41
05-26-2005, 01:23 AM
It's Lauren or Sark...I'm leaning towards Sark (since it's a guy driving) but Lauren's behind it I'm sure...

No, Lauren needs to be dead, they can't bring EVERYONE back to life all the time.

Talula62
05-26-2005, 01:24 AM
Derek - bite your tongue. That bitch is dead. N-...st-....la la la llaal ala la I can't hear you.

JimiThang1
05-26-2005, 01:28 AM
Hahaha...Well I mean who the hell else can it be?? Sloane's in jail, Nadia's dying, Elena is dead, Irina wouldn't dare do it just with everything she said tonight (though who really knows)...so that leaves Sark and Lauren...

Talula62
05-26-2005, 01:33 AM
No Derek, it does not leave Lauren. She's frozen with evil black eyeliner on in a drawer somewhere. Come on man! :lol

Okay, well, then it's Sark.

JimiThang1
05-26-2005, 01:35 AM
Haha I know...I hope it's Sark or WILL!!?!?

Talula62
05-26-2005, 01:36 AM
:lol Oh Jesus - yeah Will finds out about Vaughn's past and comes to seek revenge and take Sydney for his own. *drools*

Oh Erin from TWoP - I love you. From a poll she wrote on pg 7 of Search and Rescue recap:
"Why are Syd and Nadia experiencing feelings of dread and darkness? "
Because big red balls aren't scary, but another season without Sark is. - 40%
Because the season's almost over and there's only one ep left with Lena. - 35%
Because they're about to do battle against each other under the big red ball. - 26%

JimiThang1
05-26-2005, 01:38 AM
That'll be the day...payback for all the years for putting his ass into witness protection.

Talula62
05-26-2005, 01:49 AM
Whoa, I just realized something - not one single mention of Dixon. :rolleyes

JimiThang1
05-26-2005, 01:54 AM
Very true...he wasn't in the last episode at all...though the dude was shot down like crazy...no way in hell he could of got well after that short of time.

Talula62
05-26-2005, 02:01 AM
I didn't expect him to be in the field, or even in the eppy. But a mention.......ah well - this was supposed to have happened directly afterwards so it's alright. :)

JimiThang1
05-26-2005, 02:07 AM
What are the Alias boards saying about everything?

Talula62
05-26-2005, 02:12 AM
I just zipped through the TWoP threads - haven't explored sd-1 because I've been in the one thread I pretty much stay in over there and haven't left.

But TWoPers are mostly bowing at the alter of JJ. Though, some of them were pissed at him for LOST. Can't tell why - just clicked into the Lost forum. Some of them are pissed though - saying that if this is the whole resolution of Rambaldi, it's lame - "Oh really, just cut the blue wire?" And "Um, so Sloane took out Nadia, not Syd, so she really didn't do anything?" and zombies suck and all that.

Talula62
05-26-2005, 02:14 AM
Oh and my thread - not everyone has finished watching. But they are all WTF!!!!!!! and generally either freaking out because they love Syd/Vaughn so ridiculously much or loving it.

JimiThang1
05-26-2005, 02:15 AM
Oh i think it's just the beginning of Rambaldi...there is a reason why Vaughn is with Syd and there is a reason why someone tried to kill them and it all goes back to Rambaldi.

Talula62
05-26-2005, 02:16 AM
Yeah - but is there more to Rambaldi's prophecies? And if so, why doesn't anyone know about it? Because we need to save plots for Season 5? :lol

Here's a funny post about LOST though: I just realized that Charlie's flashback was a metaphor for the episode. J.J. Abrams is the rock star with the stuff, but he won't let us have it, and we want to beat him to death, because we're all cheap, desperate Australian sluts. :lol

JimiThang1
05-26-2005, 02:18 AM
Well obviously the one prophecy was not played out tonight. They did not do great battle and they did not kill one or the other. The prophecy still has not occurred.

Talula62
05-26-2005, 02:22 AM
What on earth else could the prophecy be?

Oh my god. I just realized the people who think Vaughn is Rambaldi could be totally going crazy right now. Though, if he was - that wouldn't make much sense that he'd assist in foiling his own plan for the creation of a new race of humans. :lol

JimiThang1
05-26-2005, 02:29 AM
Well the one prophecy that the two would do great battle and then one would die...they did do great battle but no one died.

Here's a screenshot of the mystery driver...who remains mysterious:

Talula62
05-26-2005, 02:40 AM
Damn you pieces of flair!!! Thank you Derek - I give you one invisible point. :lol

snapmcd
05-26-2005, 09:01 AM
Whoa, I just realized something - not one single mention of Dixon. :rolleyes

What about Jack? Why is no one talking about Jack? My theory at the moment: the show has come full circle. Sydney, recently engaged, is part of a big life confession. Fiancee dies. Jack has never liked Vaughn and Syd together. Maybe it was Jack that first placed them together at the CIA--who else could it have been? They were hit on the driver's side, perhaps intending to kill him only. Remember, Jack is one nuts mack-tastic man. :cool

For me anyway, the whole episode was a complete waste of time save the last 5 minutes.

JimiThang1
05-26-2005, 10:02 AM
For me anyway, the whole episode was a complete waste of time save the last 5 minutes.
Well the only other thing was that the prophecy did not occur last night as well...

snapmcd
05-26-2005, 10:38 AM
Well the only other thing was that the prophecy did not occur last night as well...

That's true. I'll admit that I never went back and watched the second half of last week, so I was a little lost last night. I need to watch the last three hours again.

zigbaldi
05-26-2005, 12:01 PM
Yeah, I mean, if Nadia had protectors - Syd had to have had some too. Now, the freaky thing is - HOW DOES JACK NOT KNOW????



maybe he does know, thats why he was against their marrage at first. then he went to "vaughn" and was like, if you truely believe that you can make her happy. it may be that jack does know thats why he gave that reaction

Talula62
05-26-2005, 12:40 PM
What about Jack? Why is no one talking about Jack? My theory at the moment: the show has come full circle. Sydney, recently engaged, is part of a big life confession. Fiancee dies. Jack has never liked Vaughn and Syd together. Maybe it was Jack that first placed them together at the CIA--who else could it have been? They were hit on the driver's side, perhaps intending to kill him only. Remember, Jack is one nuts mack-tastic man. :cool


He might have been behind it originally, but there's no way he was behind a hit. Not with what he said last week about her being happy.

And you absolutely have to watch the 2nd hour from last week. It was a much better episode and Lena just fucking rocks my face off. She and Jack were why I could tolerate the zombies last night. And Marshall and Weiss. And Syd and Vaughn's whole romantic thing before she went to the roof was actually the best Syd-Vaughn scene all season, IMO.

penn darvis
05-26-2005, 03:18 PM
What about Jack? Why is no one talking about Jack? My theory at the moment: the show has come full circle. Sydney, recently engaged, is part of a big life confession. Fiancee dies. Jack has never liked Vaughn and Syd together. Maybe it was Jack that first placed them together at the CIA--who else could it have been? They were hit on the driver's side, perhaps intending to kill him only. Remember, Jack is one nuts mack-tastic man. :cool

For me anyway, the whole episode was a complete waste of time save the last 5 minutes.
I don't even know what to think about the last five minutes. Can you really tell your viewers that everything you thought about a character for 4 years is wrong?

If J.J. can pull it off, I'll be in awe.

JimiThang1
05-26-2005, 03:28 PM
There is a reason why they are together...I'm hoping it is along the lines of protecting her.

JimiThang1
05-27-2005, 03:05 AM
Talula I found that glossary I was looking for:
http://sd-5.com/index.php?a=list&d=1

penn darvis
05-27-2005, 03:17 AM
It's Lauren or Sark...I'm leaning towards Sark (since it's a guy driving) but Lauren's behind it I'm sure...
I'm going with Will.

shoegal_97
05-27-2005, 06:07 PM
Well the one prophecy that the two would do great battle and then one would die...they did do great battle but no one died.

Here's a screenshot of the mystery driver...who remains mysterious:


I was thinking, it really doesnt matter if we can see the driver or not because if its Sark, Lauren, Will, whomever, they wouldn't actually be driving the car, that would put them in harm. They'd have some nobody driving don't yah'll think?

JimiThang1
05-27-2005, 06:11 PM
Probably right about that...those poor petty thugs always dying for no good reasons.

AlpineValley804
05-27-2005, 06:45 PM
I was thinking, it really doesnt matter if we can see the driver (http://server4.103092804.com/Release3/linkredirect.php?h=42340,205464,1117230312) or not because if its Sark, Lauren, Will, whomever, they wouldn't actually be driving the car, that would put them in harm. They'd have some nobody driving don't yah'll think?

I was thinking the same thing. I'm sure one of them ordered the hit though. But I highly doubt it would be Will. I don't think he'd ever risk bringing harm to Sydney at his will.

shoegal_97
05-27-2005, 06:56 PM
Probably right about that...those poor petty thugs always dying for no good reasons.

:lol

I was thinking the same thing. I'm sure one of them ordered the hit though. But I highly doubt it would be Will. I don't think he'd ever risk bringing harm to Sydney at his will.

yeah, I'm very doubtful of Will. I was however, hoping he'd be back this season, no luck....this would bring him into the next season though :D

penn darvis
05-27-2005, 07:54 PM
I was joking about Will.

shoegal_97
05-27-2005, 09:55 PM
I was joking about Will.
oh. :o

penn darvis
05-28-2005, 12:19 AM
I'm sorry. I want him back on the show too, in a non-gay sort of way.

snapmcd
05-28-2005, 11:24 AM
Like the new avatar, Paula!

shoegal_97
05-28-2005, 03:53 PM
Like the new avatar, Paula!
Thank you!! Needed a change since alias is done for the season :(

JimiThang1
05-28-2005, 03:56 PM
Thank you!! Needed a change since alias is done for the season :(
So...Alias lives all year long...in our hearts....

shoegal_97
05-28-2005, 04:01 PM
So...Alias lives all year long...in our hearts....


Hey I didnt completely get rid of it I kept the <o>. I was just tired of the colors

Talula62
05-30-2005, 01:46 AM
Damn y'all have me cross-eyed. I leave for a while and the avs are different and I'm like who are these people? :lol

That site you posted is very cool Derek - should have guessed it'd be on an SD server!

Hmmm...perhaps I need an av change myself. *ponders*

JimiThang1
05-30-2005, 01:51 AM
Yea I figured since the new HP book is coming out in July I should support it for a month or so. But it will be back to Lost/Alias in August.

Check out the Lost thread too, lots of cool things I have found.

Also, you should join this game that I think everyone in this thread would enjoy. Snap has already joined and it's an easy online game you can play once a day. It's a game where you control your own little country and watch it grow:
http://www.nationstates.net

Then join the "Antsmarching" region.

Talula62
05-30-2005, 09:28 PM
I'm reading a massive journal entry from Jinnie. It's her Season 4 wrap up.

Interesting tidbits: Kendall's name and lines for him actually were in the script for the finale. They were cut. She references Chad's blog for more info. I want to know about this, so I'll link you up when I read it. Okay, it's just that LOST scheduling wouldn't allow for it so instead they got Brodien to come back. I don't think this means Kendall was supposed to get harpooned originally............that isn't said or not said so I dunno.

Here's what else was cut - across various eps - tagged just, cuz it seems like I should.
"Katya and Irina were forced into the Rambaldi obsession by Elena. Later, the two younger sisters forged a bond to protect Sydney and Nadia.
1. Katya was the one who called for medical help after stabbing Vaughn to protect her cover in front of Lauren (who recognized her as sis to the boss), not Jack as often fanwanked.

2. As a Derevko, Katya would know the difference between loaded and unloaded guns.

3. Irina collected Rambaldi artifacts to keep them away from Elena.

4. Etc."

Next: "While holding Irina prisoner, Elena forced her to see pictures of her own funeral. (Just like she made Sydney watch). The clone was sent to Jack as a lesson to Irina – even if she managed to escape, she’d still never find freedom because Jack would kill her."

Next: "When Katya rips into Jack about Irina, he almost breaks down."

And finally, they cut footage of the Cherokee getting closer/ possibly following Vaughn and Syd before the crash.

JimiThang1
05-30-2005, 09:34 PM
Wow very interesting...

Talula62
05-30-2005, 09:37 PM
There's another thing in Chad's blog, but it's just about a conversation he (casting director) had with Sonia Braga (Elena). She says she wants to come back and told Chad that they should make it so that Irina (just speculation) killed an Elena clone - because Elena would be too smart to risk her own involvement, so she clones herself and sends the clone in for the apocolyptic shit. Heavens.

zigbaldi
05-31-2005, 01:12 AM
i think they are going overboard with the
cloning already.


thats some good info you posted talula

Talula62
05-31-2005, 01:20 AM
Word Ziggy - they totally are. She was probably joking around and being half serious like, "oh yeah I'd do it if you decided to but...alright, it was fun while it lasted." :lol

I just still cannot believe that Samantha's lesbian lover on Sex and the City made it over to Alias. :ugh

shoegal_97
05-31-2005, 09:19 PM
There's another thing in Chad's blog, but it's just about a conversation he (casting director) had with Sonia Braga (Elena). She says she wants to come back and told Chad that they should make it so that Irina (just speculation) killed an Elena clone - because Elena would be too smart to risk her own involvement, so she clones herself and sends the clone in for the apocolyptic shit. Heavens.


:ugh ... :shrug .... :thumbsdow

Bartender84
06-02-2005, 01:24 PM
I've always regretted not watching this show from the beginning, but didn't really want to start watching in the middle because I knew I wouldn't understand anything...

... but, thanks to the wonders of bit torrent, I now have the first two seasons downloaded onto my comp. Once I'm done with those two, I'll download 3 & 4.

And I must say, this show is kicking so much ass so far :thumbsup I'm currently halfway through season 1, just finished The Box Part 2. Tarantino is a badass. So far I've watched 13 episodes in just 4 days :thumbsup

Unfortunately, I already know about some of the twists (the whole two year thing in between S2 and S3, Sydney's mom still being alive, a few others), but I don't care.

Also, Sloane is a great character. I got chills when Cole put those fire stick things into his neck and he didn't even show any pain.

Sorry for rambling :lol

JimiThang1
06-02-2005, 01:38 PM
Nice welcome to the club...you'll be caught up before next season starts and be able to join in on our conspiracy theories.

snapmcd
06-02-2005, 01:45 PM
I've always regretted not watching this show from the beginning, but didn't really want to start watching in the middle because I knew I wouldn't understand anything...

... but, thanks to the wonders of bit torrent, I now have the first two seasons downloaded onto my comp. Once I'm done with those two, I'll download 3 & 4.

And I must say, this show is kicking so much ass so far :thumbsup I'm currently halfway through season 1, just finished The Box Part 2. Tarantino is a badass. So far I've watched 13 episodes in just 4 days :thumbsup

Unfortunately, I already know about some of the twists (the whole two year thing in between S2 and S3, Sydney's mom still being alive, a few others), but I don't care.

Also, Sloane is a great character. I got chills when Cole put those fire stick things into his neck and he didn't even show any pain.

Sorry for rambling :lol

Outstanding. Bit Torrent is miraculous, isn't it? By the way, I'm Ginger. I am the resident lover of Sark. :)

shoegal_97
06-02-2005, 02:25 PM
I've always regretted not watching this show from the beginning, but didn't really want to start watching in the middle because I knew I wouldn't understand anything...

... but, thanks to the wonders of bit torrent, I now have the first two seasons downloaded onto my comp. Once I'm done with those two, I'll download 3 & 4.

And I must say, this show is kicking so much ass so far :thumbsup I'm currently halfway through season 1, just finished The Box Part 2. Tarantino is a badass. So far I've watched 13 episodes in just 4 days :thumbsup

Unfortunately, I already know about some of the twists (the whole two year thing in between S2 and S3, Sydney's mom still being alive, a few others), but I don't care.

Also, Sloane is a great character. I got chills when Cole put those fire stick things into his neck and he didn't even show any pain.

Sorry for rambling :lol



Mmmm this takes me back to when I started watching the previous seasons on DVD. Great times, your in for a ride!!! :thumbsup

Talula62
06-02-2005, 02:55 PM
Hi Vince. We support your addiction. I'm Talula. I don't think I'm a resident anything - my loyalties are flexible like that. ;)

penn darvis
06-03-2005, 04:01 AM
Welcome to the crazy world of Alias.

Talula62
06-04-2005, 05:00 PM
Awww. I showed an Alias virgin Truth Be Told and So It Begins last night. Drunken Alias is the best. :)

I'm wondering if there might be any hints in these eps about who Vaughn really is. I was thinking it wasn't possible, but the Mueller Device is in Truth Be frickin Told! So, I'm wondering how they might have gone back to the first eps to decide this new storyline.

JimiThang1
06-07-2005, 10:53 PM
Our good friend Kristin is reporting that yes Michael Vartan is coming back (duh) and as is Greg Grunberg.

shoegal_97
06-07-2005, 10:56 PM
yay glad greg will be back :thumbsup

Bartender84
06-07-2005, 11:29 PM
Just got done with the first season, I am officially hooked.

Although, it was pretty obvious that Vaughn didn't die there, even if I didn't know that he was in later seasons I would have figured that out. If you don't see the body, chances are the person is alive.

Talula62
06-08-2005, 12:15 AM
Our good friend Kristin is reporting that yes Michael Vartan is coming back (duh) and as is Greg Grunberg.

SERIOUSLY?? Every year Vartan "is leaving" and every year his "life hangs in the balance." The guy's been stabbed, electrocution-tortured, shot, nearly drowned in infected Big Red Ball water, apparently too distraught over Jen leaving him to function normally to do his job.......I want to find the people that start the rumors about him leaving all the time and :twak them. Then I won't ever have to hear Kristen state the obvious ever again.

Actually, that really wouldn't cure it would it. :lol

JimiThang1
06-08-2005, 12:19 AM
Actually, that really wouldn't cure it would it. :lol
No probably not. Damn I can't still give you rep...cause that was funny!

Talula62
06-10-2005, 02:54 AM
Oh, not cool. Page 7.

So, I've just finished watching A Broken Heart through Colorblind tonight. I was thinking I wouldn't watch the eps again - I did twice last summer during the hiatus. But, I totally forgot totally random, funny shit. Like from Francie. Or Jack. This show kicks so much ass.

I'm thinkin that the music used to be way cooler back in the day.

penn darvis
06-10-2005, 03:06 AM
The music was really cool back in the first season. The scores are still cool, but I've had it with Jet and Lenny Kravitz.

JimiThang1
06-10-2005, 03:23 AM
Alias (and Lost) have one of the best composers in Hollywood doing their music - Michael Giacchino. His work on the Incredibles is genius and he's going to be doing MI:3 with JJ too! Their relationship is probably going to turn into a thing like John Williams and Spielberg have going.

penn darvis
06-10-2005, 03:26 AM
He originally composed the music for the Medal of Honor videogames and that's how he ended up on Alias. At least that's what I remember from a commentary or interview or something.

JimiThang1
06-10-2005, 03:26 AM
You are correct sir.

penn darvis
06-10-2005, 03:28 AM
Now if I could only remember where I heard that.

JimiThang1
06-10-2005, 03:29 AM
Now if I could only remember where I heard that.
I think it's on the Season 1 DVD if I'm not mistaken...plus it's in his IMDB file.

penn darvis
06-10-2005, 03:31 AM
I'm going with the season 1 dvd.

I should check him out on imdb though. Thanks.

penn darvis
06-16-2005, 12:36 AM
6 days of inactivity in this thread.

http://jen-garner.net/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10002/esquirepics-032.jpg

JimiThang1
06-16-2005, 12:37 AM
404 Error!

penn darvis
06-16-2005, 12:40 AM
oops

JimiThang1
06-16-2005, 12:40 AM
Ah that's better...I'll take it!

Talula62
06-16-2005, 01:11 AM
Nice work steve!

I've been watching Season 1. RIght now Jack is kidnapping Will. Good times.

I swear I'm so suspicious of Vaughn right now. I totally think he was Irina's CIA contact. Then he finds out she really killed him but he's not that surprised so he doesn't really react until Season 2 when he sees her. Maybe he hadn't actually met her when he was working for her. If he knew she was alive the whole time - that would be very cool. Syd would flip her shit.

shoegal_97
06-16-2005, 03:26 AM
Nice work steve!

I've been watching Season 1. RIght now Jack is kidnapping Will. Good times.

Then he finds out she really killed him but he's not that surprised so he doesn't really react until Season 2 when he sees her..


huh?

penn darvis
06-16-2005, 05:52 AM
Nice work steve!

I've been watching Season 1. RIght now Jack is kidnapping Will. Good times.

I swear I'm so suspicious of Vaughn right now. I totally think he was Irina's CIA contact. Then he finds out she really killed him but he's not that surprised so he doesn't really react until Season 2 when he sees her. Maybe he hadn't actually met her when he was working for her. If he knew she was alive the whole time - that would be very cool. Syd would flip her shit.
I assume you mean he finds out Irina killed his father. Who says the thing about Irina killing his father is even true? If Vaughn isn't even his real name, anything's possible?

I feel like watching some season 2 right now.

Talula62
06-16-2005, 01:34 PM
Oh sorry Paula - I left out a sentence there somehow. :lol

Yeah, I meant he finds out Irina killed his father. But yeah, I've never really been sure that she did. See, I still think Bill Vaughn is his father but that they both just have different names. Maybe not though.

penn darvis
06-16-2005, 05:39 PM
Oh sorry Paula - I left out a sentence there somehow. :lol

Yeah, I meant he finds out Irina killed his father. But yeah, I've never really been sure that she did. See, I still think Bill Vaughn is his father but that they both just have different names. Maybe not though.
I've never thought about that.

It would almost have to be that way in order to make the whole thing about him searching for his dad actually make sense. Maybe it's not his biological father. :)

Talula62
06-17-2005, 12:46 AM
Our poor show is about to get its ass beat by 24 in Marshall's poll thread. http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=136397

JimiThang1
06-17-2005, 01:13 AM
I voted...

zigbaldi
06-17-2005, 01:29 AM
i voted too

penn darvis
06-17-2005, 05:43 AM
I voted.

Bartender84
06-18-2005, 05:16 AM
Still watching, I can't believe I finished two seasons in two weeks, damn this show is addictive. Four episodes into Season 3 now, still loving it :thumbsup

Talula62
06-18-2005, 02:29 PM
:thumbsup Awesome Vince!! Let's see, I think episode 9 of Season 3 is sooooooo good. It's called Conscious. :thumbsup

JimiThang1
06-18-2005, 02:43 PM
Just read a quote from JJ and he said that they already have next year of Alias all planned out and that the ending of next year is better than this years ending.

Talula62
06-18-2005, 03:01 PM
Better how? (That is what I'm asking myself, not really answerable!) Who'd he talk to?

Victor and Kevin Weisman and Amanda Foreman are in London today at some convention-y thing, so they'll be talking about next season a little bit, I'd think.

JimiThang1
06-18-2005, 03:06 PM
Better how? (That is what I'm asking myself, not really answerable!) Who'd he talk to?

Who do you think he talked to??

Talula62
06-18-2005, 03:12 PM
Um....Kristen??

JimiThang1
06-18-2005, 03:15 PM
Um....Kristen??
Bingo

Talula62
06-18-2005, 03:19 PM
She's so powerful - the answer to every damn question I ever ask.

Here's a link to a transcript of Victor Garber at Alias Rendezvous 2 - unofficial, mind you. It's only partially about Alias and there really isn't anything juicy in there at all. It's all like "what's it like to work with x?" and stuff.

http://sd-1.net/index.php?showtopic=42877&view=findpost&p=2741008

shoegal_97
06-18-2005, 08:13 PM
Just read a quote from JJ and he said that they already have next year of Alias all planned out and that the ending of next year is better than this years ending.

Of course it is, he wouldn't say its worse or not as good! But nonetheless it makes me amped for next season :multi :multi :multi :multi

Talula62
06-18-2005, 08:40 PM
:lol Paula - that's true. :lol I don't care - he could tell me that the worst shit that's ever happened to anyone ever is about to happen on the show and I'd be like, "Mmmhmm, that's fascinating. I love you!"

shoegal_97
06-18-2005, 09:10 PM
:lol Paula - that's true. :lol I don't care - he could tell me that the worst shit that's ever happened to anyone ever is about to happen on the show and I'd be like, "Mmmhmm, that's fascinating. I love you!"



:lol +1. I know i was reading a magazine from 2001, there were talking about people that were the new "IT" people. He was the new "It" show creater, (alias was brand new that season!) And they were talking about how brillian JJ was. I was like, Oh hell yeay! (Dave was also in there as the new "it" independent label creater :) )

shoegal_97
06-18-2005, 09:11 PM
well i give you it to you when i can anyway, stupid 24 hour rule

Talula62
06-18-2005, 09:16 PM
Yes, only JJ and Dave qualify for such adoration!! :thumbsup :) Yeah, I have given out lots of rep in the last 24 hours so I definitely can give my Alias pals some tomorrow!!

JimiThang1
06-18-2005, 09:34 PM
Bradley Cooper is in the new EW as a "MUST" list person (they renamed the IT list a few years ago).

Talula62
06-18-2005, 09:57 PM
Oh I so never told y'all about my Bradley dream a few weeks ago. We were definitely at the Gorge together. :lol Yeah, I dunno. Thanks Derek!

JimiThang1
06-18-2005, 09:58 PM
It's about his new series and how it has some good buzz going around it. Definately will check it out.

Talula62
06-18-2005, 10:08 PM
:thumbsup I'm excited for it!!

JimiThang1
06-18-2005, 10:10 PM
3000 bitches!

Talula62
06-18-2005, 10:17 PM
WOoohooooo Derek!!!! Damn you are fast!!!

JimiThang1
06-18-2005, 10:21 PM
Yea the setlist game chats fly.

penn darvis
06-19-2005, 03:13 AM
That's how I got to 4000.

Haven't done a chat this tour. I need to start.

shoegal_97
06-19-2005, 04:05 PM
Oh I so never told y'all about my Bradley dream a few weeks ago. We were definitely at the Gorge together. :lol Yeah, I dunno. Thanks Derek!


+1 for yesterday but I wish I could give you another one for having that dream......mmm Bradley Cooper.... :evil

shoegal_97
06-19-2005, 04:06 PM
3000 bitches!


Damn I remember when I had more than you! :(
I haven't been posting much though, now that I have stupid Dial Up again

JimiThang1
06-19-2005, 04:14 PM
Oh well it won't last much longer with dial up.

Bartender84
06-19-2005, 05:05 PM
:thumbsup Awesome Vince!! Let's see, I think episode 9 of Season 3 is sooooooo good. It's called Conscious. :thumbsup
I JUST got done watching that episode. Loved it :thumbsup

My only complaint so far is WHERE THE HELL IS WILL? I hope he hasn't disappeared entirely. Also, I just love that Sloane is now a double agent. He's probably one of my favorite villains of all time.

Talula62
06-19-2005, 05:38 PM
My only complaint so far is WHERE THE HELL IS WILL? I hope he hasn't disappeared entirely.

Also, I just love that Sloane is now a double agent. He's probably one of my favorite villains of all time.

:thumbsup :thumbsup My thoughts exactly!!

shoegal_97
06-19-2005, 05:55 PM
Oh well it won't last much longer with dial up.


what?

Bartender84
06-19-2005, 06:38 PM
My only complaint so far is WHERE THE HELL IS WILL? I hope he hasn't disappeared entirely.

Nice timing :lol I say that, and five minutes later he's on my computer screen. So glad he killed that Allison bitch.

Alright, time for Episode 11 now... ugh, I've now watched 11 episodes in 3 days. Someone get me a life

shoegal_97
06-19-2005, 06:40 PM
Nice timing :lol I say that, and five minutes later he's on my computer screen. So glad he killed that Allison bitch.

Alright, time for Episode 11 now... ugh, I've now watched 11 episodes in 3 days. Someone get me a life


:lol

I was so you a few months ago, I think I watched season one in two days straight!! :lol

Talula62
06-19-2005, 07:13 PM
Nice timing :lol I say that, and five minutes later he's on my computer screen. So glad he killed that Allison bitch.

Alright, time for Episode 11 now... ugh, I've now watched 11 episodes in 3 days. Someone get me a life

:lol Oh yeah, I forgot his ep was #10. I love you Bradley.

11 eps in three days isn't bad at all!! I got my friend into the show and we watched Season 2 in 3 days. Like 7 per day. Ridiculous. After Entourage and Family Guy tonight I'll probably watch another disc of Season 1. :thumbsup

Talula62
06-19-2005, 09:03 PM
So yeah I already posted a link to a recapped transcript of Victor Garber at that Alias thingy in London - but Amanda Foreman (Carrie) and Kevin (Marshall) were there too.

So, someone at televisionwithoutpity.com posted a summary from his/her own perspective. A couple of interesting things: I'll tag them but these aren't concrete spoilers by any means.

Kevin says that as far as he knows, APO will exist in S5. He "seemed to indicate that Before the Flood really did wrap up the Rambaldi mythology" though he thinks Rambaldi will be present next year, just not tot he extent he/it/they did this year. So, perhaps Rambaldi has been bumped to recurring too. :lol

The only other Victor thing was that he appeared baby crazy.

Amanda said not a whole lot other than the writers are discussing with her ways to bring Carrie back for a few eps. She also "announced (and then seemed to immediately regret it) that Greg Grunberg may not be available next year for many episodes." ANd people were like, whatever his pilot didn't get picked up, and she said "well that doesn't mean he won't be busy doing something else." Whatever that means.

JimiThang1
06-19-2005, 09:07 PM
Rambaldi has to exist...the Prophecy did not happen!!! That episode was the total opposite of what the Prophecy was! Unless if the Prophecy was wrong...

Talula62
06-19-2005, 09:11 PM
I think there are a lot of folks who are, apparently, content in settling for "Well, Nadia turned into a zombie and she'll never get better so.....technically..." which sucks because "technically"??? Worst word in the English language. :lol

I choose to comfort myself (cuz if that's a fulfillment, it's lame) by telling myself that Kevin just has no idea where they'll take Rambaldi in the future because that topic has taken second fiddle to dealing wtih the pregnancy.

I like that they aren't talking at all about Not-Vaughn though!! :thumbsup: I really want to be UN-spoiled for that.

JimiThang1
06-19-2005, 09:25 PM
And again i'm still not convinced yet she is pregnant. I have heard nothing about it since that supposed announcement months ago. No confirmation from their reps, no obvious pictures she is pregnant, nothing.

Talula62
06-19-2005, 10:08 PM
Well I read a magazine today. Self. She's on the cover. And she was ebing interviewed by some Kelly chick who is on a TV show with the guy from Boston Common - she was in Mr. Hollands Opus. Anyway, they are friends and Jen was saying things like "Yeah, since I can't work out as much now, it's hard to keep the weight down." And Kelly says "I know, your boobs are the biggest I've ever seen them!"

Victor talks openly about Jen's pregnancy. He just doesn't ever say for sure what it means for Syd.

She's preggers babe.

JimiThang1
06-19-2005, 10:25 PM
Ok...i'll believe it...it's just weird it wasn't even in entertainment weekly.

Talula62
06-19-2005, 11:48 PM
I know. I think she wants it that way!! I mean, it's odd, but I was astonished at how she was fully saying things about herself that just have to be related to the pregnancy but she doesn't ever say that she is pregnant or say anything related to it.

I guess maybe she just wants to keep things really private. And another weird thing in the article is that she never said any person's name. Not Michael, not Scott, not Ben even though she referred to going through a really hard time when she was filming Elektra (breaking up with MV) and how the woman interviewing her was there for her during the hardest time she's ever gone through (divorce) - and the interviewer put those things in parintheses but she totally dodges that stuff.

But there was no pregnany anything in parintheses - and I have no clue how to spell that word - even though she's talking about Jen's boobs getting bigger???? Oh well.

shoegal_97
06-20-2005, 12:25 AM
3000 bitches!


why is derek always calling us bitches :lorraine

Talula62
06-20-2005, 01:14 AM
:lol

Evans
06-20-2005, 01:39 AM
Perhaps you all know this already, but I figured I'd post it...funny story about Michael Vartan...Seems Ashton punk'd him.

From MSN Entertainment:

"Earlier this year, Demi's dewier, doofier half reportedly set up Michael Vartan by convincing him that the plane he had just boarded was about to fall apart.

The "Alias" hottie was said to be so irate over the stunt he refused to allow the segment to air. He later denied it had happened at all; Kutcher insisted it did".

Talula62
06-20-2005, 01:59 AM
Man, I don't know how they could pull off a prank like that on a commercial airline unless everyone seated around him was in on it and the pilot and the flight attendants and all that shit. I'm thinking Vartan doesn't travel on private jets.

Either way though, Ashton's an ass clown, if you ask me. Plus he got dumped by the mother of Ben Affleck's child. Give the man some fucking peace.

snapmcd
06-20-2005, 02:57 AM
"technically"??? Worst word in the English language. :lol



Agreed 100%.

shoegal_97
06-20-2005, 10:21 AM
Perhaps you all know this already, but I figured I'd post it...funny story about Michael Vartan...Seems Ashton punk'd him.

From MSN Entertainment:

"Earlier this year, Demi's dewier, doofier half reportedly set up Michael Vartan by convincing him that the plane he had just boarded was about to fall apart.

The "Alias" hottie was said to be so irate over the stunt he refused to allow the segment to air. He later denied it had happened at all; Kutcher insisted it did".


wierd. if its true thats a pretty mean prank, and if it did happen wheres the footage Ashton? YEAH! thats what i thought :rolleyes

Talula62
06-20-2005, 02:36 PM
Agreed 100%.

+1 :thumbsup Glad someone caught that and agrees!

shoegal_97
06-20-2005, 11:11 PM
I caught that too....:P

Talula62
06-20-2005, 11:46 PM
Well, they're rolling in. http://p099.ezboard.com/fjjboardfrm12.showMessage?topicID=83820.topic

She's adorable. No matter what. Ben? Ouch.

Talula62
06-21-2005, 01:32 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if this story were true. Whenever they do get married - it'll go down just like this.

http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/hotgossip?GT1=6657

JimiThang1
06-21-2005, 02:27 PM
Doesn't he know not to smoke around pregnant women?

Talula62
06-21-2005, 02:50 PM
I know. He needs to put on some patches and quit that shit.

JimiThang1
06-21-2005, 03:07 PM
He's gonna have a crack baby if he doesn't.