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Joe M.
06-16-2004, 11:20 PM
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<ul><li><a href="http://gravedigger.dnsalias.org/DMB%20Summer%202004/dmb2004-07-02.at853.txt">W Clark (at583)</a></li>
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<li><a href="http://gravedigger.dnsalias.org/DMB%20Summer%202004/dmb2004-07-02.mkh800.txt">Ian White (mkh800)</a></li>
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greppson
07-04-2004, 06:47 PM
Dave Matthews Band
Saratoga Performing Arts Center "SPAC"
Saratoga Springs, NY
7/2/04
Taper -- W Clark
Source -- AT853 > SP Box w/Bass Roll > AD-20 > MZ-R55
Location -- Section 5, Row G, Seat 11
Disc 1
Intro
Don’t Burn The Pig
The Stone
Don’t Drink the Water >
Bass Intro > Sugar Will (New Song #4)
Help Myself
Recently
Song That Jane Likes
Hello Again (New Song #3)
Intro > Rhyme & Reason >
Hmm? (New)
Disc 2
Intro
Grey Street
Crazy - Easy (New Song #1)
What Would You Say
Cry Freedom
Joy Ride (New Song #2)
When The World Ends
Ants Marching
--------------------
Best of Whats Around >
Tripping Billies
Notes -- Disc 1 requires a 80min cd. Levels were lowered durring Pig, the bass sounds much better afterwords. Some encore "dead time" was cut.
greppson
07-04-2004, 06:51 PM
don't have this, just posting the info that was posted on another board.
HRMoonwalk
07-04-2004, 09:04 PM
where was this posted?
Crumbo
07-05-2004, 03:17 PM
this source can be found here:
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=5758
Dave Matthews Band
Saratoga Performing Arts Center
Saratoga Springs, NY
July 2, 2004
Taper: Ian White <ian.white@adelphia.net>
Location: Section 40 (ORCH PIT), ~ 6' from right stack
Source: Sennheiser MKH-800 @ ~ 14' (subcards) > Lunatec V3 >
Benchmark AD2402-96 @ 24/96 > RME Multiface >
Sony Vaio PCG-V505EX > Wavelab 5.0
Conversion: Goldwave 5.08 > CD Wave 1.93 > Wavelab 5.0 > shntool 1.2.3
** DO NOT CONVERT TO MP3 OR OTHER LOSSY FORMAT **
Disc 1: 66:40
01 Intro 03:08
02 Pig -> 06:47
03 The Stone 09:38
04 Don't Drink The Water -> 06:44
05 Sugar Will 11:56
06 Help Myself 05:22
07 Recently 10:58
08 The Song That Jane Likes 05:03
09 Hello Again 06:57
Disc 2: 79:42
01 Rhyme & Reason -> 08:00
02 Thing 08:13
03 Grey Street 06:59
04 Crazy-Easy 05:56
05 What Would You Say 05:43
06 Cry Freedom 07:15
07 Joy Ride 05:11
08 When The World Ends 03:34
09 Ants Marching 16:41
-Encore-
10 Best Of What's Around -> 05:38
11 Tripping Billies 06:25
-> Indicates a segue into the next song
Compiled by Ian White on 07-05-04
Noles20
07-05-2004, 10:55 PM
Can anyone who downloaded this show speak about the quality? Is it as good as the other shows we have been getting recently?
greppson
07-05-2004, 11:10 PM
most of us haven't finished the torrent yet.
j_jgarcia
07-06-2004, 12:20 AM
How do you know if you've been banned. I know it's the question I never wanted to have to ask but since this evening I have had nooooo luck downloading anything...The pages won't load to show whats available thru tour central. I am quite new to this but would love a collection to share as well, but most of all I hope i didn't piss anyone off????
greppson
07-06-2004, 12:41 AM
this show isn't on the server yet.
the white is pretty tight. not much crowd noise at all.
i'll verify the tracks and upload it tonight and let mike take it from there.:)
White's has a lot of bass, so much that it distorts very often. Other than that, sounds great.
greppson
07-06-2004, 01:18 AM
i'm not hearing any distortion...
edit: but i know one or both nights fonzi seemed to be having some bass troubles, they kept adjusting during and in between songs.
Crumbo
07-06-2004, 01:19 AM
i'm not hearing any distortion...
:thumbsup
ditto.....Ian's recording is fantastic
i'm not hearing any distortion...
It's definately there, especially in the kickdrum. Your speakers may not bring it out.
greppson
07-06-2004, 01:22 AM
i'm listening with stereo headphones plugged directly into my comp and it sounds fabulous.
there are parts where boyd's mic is a little high... and on ants, roi's sax was a little high in the intro, but it seems to be all evened out.
willndmb
07-06-2004, 01:23 AM
Dave Matthews Band
Saratoga Performing Arts Center "SPAC"
Saratoga Springs, NY
7/2/04
Taper -- W Clark
Source -- AT853 > SP Box w/Bass Roll > AD-20 > MZ-R55
Location -- Section 5, Row G, Seat 11
Disc 1
Intro
Don’t Burn The Pig
The Stone
Don’t Drink the Water >
Bass Intro > Sugar Will (New Song #4)
Help Myself
Recently
Song That Jane Likes
Hello Again (New Song #3)
Intro > Rhyme & Reason >
Hmm? (New)
Disc 2
Intro
Grey Street
Crazy - Easy (New Song #1)
What Would You Say
Cry Freedom
Joy Ride (New Song #2)
When The World Ends
Ants Marching
--------------------
Best of Whats Around >
Tripping Billies
Notes -- Disc 1 requires a 80min cd. Levels were lowered durring Pig, the bass sounds much better afterwords. Some encore "dead time" was cut.
how do shows get uploaded to the http server?
i will do it if you like
this is also im my aim get file folder now
i'm listening with stereo headphones plugged directly into my comp and it sounds fabulous.
there are parts where boyd's mic is a little high... and on ants, roi's sax was a little high in the intro, but it seems to be all evened out.
I'm talking about in the lower frequencies, close to 20hz. Yes otherwise the balance is wonderful. I just curbed the bass in winamp and it sounds even better(a good idea for aud recordings in some cases).
seekup40
07-06-2004, 02:20 AM
different playback systems have varying tolerances for lower frequencies. you can attenuate to your liking with your equalizer. the cranked up low-end can be attributed to the subcardioids. that coupled with the fact that i was inches from the cabs/subs.
different playback systems have varying tolerances for lower frequencies. you can attenuate to your liking with your equalizer. the cranked up low-end can be attributed to the subcardioids. that coupled with the fact that i was inches from the cabs/subs.
Yeah, I did this in winamp and it sounds excellent.
Thanks for the tape.:)
TwoStepping2DMB
07-06-2004, 01:38 PM
Great recording the bass is thumping on my Multimedia Speaker system though.
Here is Will's tape:
http://www.sharingthegroove.org/msgboard/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79568
TwoStepping2DMB
07-06-2004, 03:45 PM
Naylor tape ?
rhuss
07-06-2004, 05:01 PM
Naylor tape ?right here: http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=26573
right here: http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=26573
ease up, he's just asking if Naylor taped the show. He did say he was taping 7 in a row.
TwoStepping2DMB
07-06-2004, 05:48 PM
ease up, he's just asking if Naylor taped the show. He did say he was taping 7 in a row.
Tank you Gary! you understood my question:) I like the tape of White for this night but it has too much bass for my cd player. I dunno its something about Naylors tapes that my discman,car stereo and computer speakers like. Its very weird Same way with Malers night 2 spac tape very freaking annoying:BANG
seekup40
07-06-2004, 06:02 PM
damn y'all, is the bass really that bad? it may be a little heavy, but you should have a bass attenuator on your stereo system at the very least to take care of that. i like the tight bottom end personally. the tape isn't distorted or saturated, just thumps a little more. depending on your system, as i mentioned, the threshold may not be the greatest.
i actually did some post-EQ with a light roll-off below 60 Hz. i also ran a roll-off on the preamp during the show. i will admit, my mics are as flat as they come. as a consequence, they suck up the bass!
...and no, naylor wasn't there. :)
damn y'all, is the bass really that bad? it may be a little heavy, but you should have a bass attenuator on your stereo system at the very least to take care of that. i like the tight bottom end personally. the tape isn't distorted or saturated, just thumps a little more. depending on your system, as i mentioned, the threshold may not be the greatest.
i actually did some post-EQ with a light roll-off below 60 Hz. i also ran a roll-off on the preamp during the show. i will admit, my mics are as flat as they come. as a consequence, they suck up the bass!
...and no, naylor wasn't there. :)
Like I said, I curbed it a little and it sounds great now :thumbsup
TwoStepping2DMB
07-06-2004, 07:06 PM
Dave Matthews Band
07-02-2004
Saratoga Performing Arts Center
Saratoga Springs, NY
Taper: Ned Ryerson
Source: Schoeps CMC5(modified)/MK21 > Lunatec V2 > Apogee Mini-Me (@16/44.1, Soft Limit On) > Sony D8
mods on CMC5 bodies: capacitors, transistors, and jfet changed. caps=Wima MKP2, transistors=2SA1085, jfet=j305.
Location: left stack at the edge of the pit
Conversion: Fostex D5 > Audiophile 2496 > Sound Forge 7.0 > CD Wave > SHNTool
Disc 1: 68:53.69
01 Intro.. 02:58.39
02 Pig 06:49.16
03 The Stone 09:36.69
04 Don't Drink The Water > 06:44.38
05 New Song #4 (Sugar Will) 12:11.46
06 Help Myself 05:30.44
07 Recently 10:35.08
08 Song That Jane Likes 05:03.51
09 New Song #3 (Hello Again) 09:23.58
Disc 2: 77:43.64
01 Rhyme & Reason 05:33.47
02 Hmm? (new) 08:14.10
03 Grey Street 06:59.46
04 New Song #1 (Crazy-Easy) 05:56.48
05 What Would You Say 05:43.33
06 Cry Freedom 07:15.52
07 New Song #2 (Joy Ride) 05:11.46
08 When The World Ends 03:34.38
09 Ants Marching 16:43.53
Encore:
10 Best Of What's Around > 05:36.35
11 Tripping Billies 06:54.31
compiled by Ned Ryerson on 07-04-04
compiled by Ned Ryerson on 07-04-04
TwoStepping2DMB
07-06-2004, 07:51 PM
damn y'all, is the bass really that bad? it may be a little heavy, but you should have a bass attenuator on your stereo system at the very least to take care of that. i like the tight bottom end personally. the tape isn't distorted or saturated, just thumps a little more. depending on your system, as i mentioned, the threshold may not be the greatest.
i actually did some post-EQ with a light roll-off below 60 Hz. i also ran a roll-off on the preamp during the show. i will admit, my mics are as flat as they come. as a consequence, they suck up the bass!
...and no, naylor wasn't there. :)
Not knocking the recording just saying its heavy as hell on my system *shrug* I mean im listening to Malers 7.2 and 7.3 now and I still have the same problem. I have no clue why Naylors sounds betteron my system. I mean Malers 7.2 isn't bad on my comp setup multimedia speakers but I will burn a test disk to listen on my discman
rhuss
07-06-2004, 08:19 PM
ease up, he's just asking if Naylor taped the show. He did say he was taping 7 in a row.
my bad. i just read it as 'where is naylor's tape' since you posted the link for will's right above.
Martial14
07-06-2004, 09:07 PM
kick drum on whites recording is a bit shaky on my computer. I can make it sound decent with the eq, though that cuts out stefan quite a bit..though I think if I had better speakers the drum would sound better. aside from that its a superb recording, really clear sound.
husker2328
07-06-2004, 09:17 PM
i get an error cant play on windows media player what do i gotta do after i convert using mkw
asmjm39
07-06-2004, 11:30 PM
yup I'll wait for Naylor's, they are always money
newscane
07-07-2004, 12:23 AM
yup I'll wait for Naylor's, they are always money
You might be waiting a while, I don't think he was at SPAC this year... he had been trying to trade away his tix for good seats for one of the other northeastern shows.
Martial14
07-07-2004, 01:24 AM
has anyone by any chance listened to the clark or ryerson tapes? how is the quality compared to white? (especially bass). I downloaded whites and and very slowly downloading clarks and wondering if I should let it keep going or not....or if I should try ryersons too. Thanks for any help:)
has anyone by any chance listened to the clark or ryerson tapes? how is the quality compared to white? (especially bass). I downloaded whites and and very slowly downloading clarks and wondering if I should let it keep going or not....or if I should try ryersons too. Thanks for any help:)
Why don't you download the SHN sample I posted when I posted the Clark torrent?
Martial14
07-07-2004, 01:38 AM
Why don't you download the SHN sample I posted when I posted the Clark torrent?
my bad...I saw it when I first looked over the lists, but forgot it was there. sorry about that. thanks for pointing it out again :)
willndmb
07-07-2004, 01:38 AM
i heard the same bass prob with whites from 2 others
i have clarks, mine :)
and the bass is there but i don't think its overpowering
and Naylor wasn;t at spac
TwoStepping2DMB
07-07-2004, 12:33 PM
i heard the same bass prob with whites from 2 others
i have clarks, mine :)
and the bass is there but i don't think its overpowering
and Naylor wasn;t at spac
Loving yours:)
TwoStepping2DMB
07-07-2004, 02:42 PM
Who else taped ?
willndmb
07-07-2004, 04:08 PM
Loving yours:)
thanks
Martial14
07-07-2004, 05:41 PM
will, is the show still in your getfile? I was downloading it last night, but our internet cut out on us and stopped part way through, so I'm missing d2t08 til the end and wasn't sure if I could still grab the missing files from someone. the ones I've got so far sound awsome by the way. thanks:)
dm40band
07-07-2004, 08:53 PM
how do shows get uploaded to the http server?
i will do it if you like
this is also im my aim get file folder now
hey will, did u find out how to upload if not let me know
willndmb
07-07-2004, 11:31 PM
shaun, you need 3 tracks
so yes they are in my get file folder -- i will be moving my comp to a new room in the house tomorrow so try and do it asap
brian, no i have not
Martial14
07-08-2004, 02:01 AM
many thanks for putting it back in there. I had some problems with IM, so I just started the download...so I'm hoping I won't have any problems overnight and it should be all set. thanks again
dm40band
07-08-2004, 05:00 PM
shaun, you need 3 tracks
so yes they are in my get file folder -- i will be moving my comp to a new room in the house tomorrow so try and do it asap
brian, no i have not
catch me up on AIM
FPrefect61
07-08-2004, 10:33 PM
Dave Matthews Band
07-02-2004
Saratoga Performing Arts Center
Saratoga Springs, NY
Taper: Ned Ryerson
Source: Schoeps CMC5(modified)/MK21 > Lunatec V2 > Apogee Mini-Me (@16/44.1, Soft Limit On) > Sony D8
mods on CMC5 bodies: capacitors, transistors, and jfet changed. caps=Wima MKP2, transistors=2SA1085, jfet=j305.
Location: left stack at the edge of the pit
Conversion: Fostex D5 > Audiophile 2496 > Sound Forge 7.0 > CD Wave > SHNTool
Disc 1: 68:53.69
01 Intro.. 02:58.39
02 Pig 06:49.16
03 The Stone 09:36.69
04 Don't Drink The Water > 06:44.38
05 New Song #4 (Sugar Will) 12:11.46
06 Help Myself 05:30.44
07 Recently 10:35.08
08 Song That Jane Likes 05:03.51
09 New Song #3 (Hello Again) 09:23.58
Disc 2: 77:43.64
01 Rhyme & Reason 05:33.47
02 Hmm? (new) 08:14.10
03 Grey Street 06:59.46
04 New Song #1 (Crazy-Easy) 05:56.48
05 What Would You Say 05:43.33
06 Cry Freedom 07:15.52
07 New Song #2 (Joy Ride) 05:11.46
08 When The World Ends 03:34.38
09 Ants Marching 16:43.53
Encore:
10 Best Of What's Around > 05:36.35
11 Tripping Billies 06:54.31
compiled by Ned Ryerson on 07-04-04
compiled by Ned Ryerson on 07-04-04
Picking this up from the newsgroup now, sounds pretty good. I'll have to sit down later and compare the 3 sources.
FPrefect61
07-09-2004, 12:23 PM
Tough call between Clark and "Ryerson"
Davenumber40
07-10-2004, 02:37 PM
Tough call between Clark and "Ryerson"
Is Ryerson's going to get torrented?
greppson
07-11-2004, 05:06 PM
ryersons is GREAT. i think someone will torrent it in the next day or two
willndmb
07-11-2004, 10:07 PM
shaun--they are in my get file folder--comp is moved and you can grab them whenever
climbin2by2
07-12-2004, 06:43 PM
can someone please help me out and send me billies? it didnt work on my downlaod... AIM is climbin2by2... thanks a lot!
tony
lezcuff
07-12-2004, 09:06 PM
I haven't had the pleasure of hearing recording of the first show yet, but can someone tell me if you can hear Boyd during "the stone?" I couldn't hear a single note of his during that tune, but I'm hoping that it made it to the tape. He seemed to be playing his heart out. I could hear him during later parts of the show.
Dave and Carter were particularly pleased with Recently.
Crumbo
07-12-2004, 10:56 PM
Is Ryerson's going to get torrented?
here it is:
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=5936
greppson
07-12-2004, 11:01 PM
after i get done burning a few more discs for people, i will help seed the ryerson 7.2
TwoStep51901
07-13-2004, 12:01 AM
after i get done burning a few more discs for people, i will help seed the ryerson 7.2
what differences do you hear b/t this and whites?
greppson
07-13-2004, 12:17 AM
they are pretty close, but i just like ryerson's a little better. sounds fuller to my ears. they really aren't too different, i just like the sound of ryerson's a little bit more.
Davenumber40
07-13-2004, 05:43 PM
here it is:
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=5936
Sweet action. Thanks.
mmazz72
07-13-2004, 07:19 PM
i'm liking ryerson the best. :thumbsup
liva687
03-13-2008, 03:19 AM
hey can someone re-uplaod this show?
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