6-17-04 UMB Bank Pavilion, Maryland Heights, MO [Archive]

Joe M.

06-16-2004, 11:28 PM

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<ul><li><a href="http://gravedigger.dnsalias.org/DMB%20Summer%202004/dmb2004-06-17.at831.txt">Nick Diegel (at831)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://gravedigger.dnsalias.org/DMB%20Summer%202004/dmb2004-06-17.akg460.txt">Bog Haag (akg460)</a> <a href="http://www.dmbsources2004.crumbo.org/dmb2004-06-17.akgmod.Haag.htm">(mirror)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://gravedigger.dnsalias.org/DMB%20Summer%202004/dmb2004-06-17.ka200n.txt">Ryan Hoyt (ka200n)</a> <a href="http://www.dmbsources2004.crumbo.org/dmb2004-06-17.ka200n.Hoyt.htm">(mirror)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://gravedigger.dnsalias.org/DMB%20Summer%202004/dmb2004-06-17.km184.fixed.txt">Mike Sarnovsky (km184)(fixed)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://gravedigger.dnsalias.org/DMB%20Summer%202004/dmb2004-06-17.sr77.txt">Joe Shambro (sr77)</a></li>
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STLCRAZYEASY

06-18-2004, 06:43 PM

Great Show!!!!!!!

Loved the Old School and the New stuff sounds great.
SOunds like Daves new music is going back to his older roots.
Here is where u can download the 4 new songs he played in STL first.
http://www.weeklydavespeak.com/news/DMBTour_SUM04_061804.shtml
Great Quality.

ilovereality

06-18-2004, 07:08 PM

Thanks for the link - I have a friend seeing them Sunday and she is going to flip now that she gets to hear these songs before she sees them play!!! Very cool!!!!

onesweetwh1rld

06-19-2004, 02:27 AM

thanks for the link... the new songs sound great! cant wait to see them next month!

onesweetwh1rld

06-19-2004, 07:57 PM

Hey, anyone know when the recording of this show will be online?

Crumbo

06-19-2004, 11:58 PM

this is hitting the newsgroups now:

Dave Matthews Band
UMB Bank Pavilion
Maryland Heights, Missouri
June 17th, 2004

Taper: Ryan Hoyt ( hoytr2@yahoo.com )
Equipment: mbho 603/ka200n > mp-2 > mod sbm-1 @ 44.1 > d100
Location: Left, Row A
DAT > SHN: d100 > AOpen aw-850 > CDWave > SHNtool

*** Please do not encode to lossy formats such as MP3 ***

d01 - 75:32.21
d01t01 Intro 01:55.70
d01t02 Too Much 05:32.59
d01t03 Granny 04:50.14
d01t04 Intro to ... 01:32.38
d01t05 What Would You Say 05:44.27
d01t06 Rhyme & Reason 06:42.15
d01t07 Joy Ride 05:22.65
d01t08 When The World Ends 04:40.20
d01t09 I Did It 04:07.70
d01t10 Warehouse 10:16.03
d01t11 Crazy-Easy 06:45.44
d01t12 Grey Street 05:36.23
d01t13 Crush 12:25.23

d02 - 63:45.02
d02t01 Hello Again 05:43.26
d02t02 Drive In Drive Out 07:08.11
d02t03 Intro to ... 01:30.38
d02t04 Grace Is Gone 11:43.14
d02t05 Help Myself 06:13.64
d02t06 Pantala Naga Pampa > 00:39.31
d02t07 Rapunzel 14:50.71
d02t08 E: Sugar Will 09:01.17
d02t09 E: Stay 06:54.30

Notes:

- Thanks to Ashley Burns for starting the tape and setting the initial
levels while I ran back to my seat
- First 10 seconds of track two were edited down because the levels were
very loud
- Compiled by Ryan Hoyt, June 19th

burke

06-20-2004, 12:11 AM

nice, he was in a great location.

onesweetwh1rld

06-20-2004, 02:26 AM

Where can I download this show!?? So anxious, haha

burke

06-20-2004, 02:36 AM

its on the newsgroup now. i imagine that it will be on servers tomorrow or soon there after.

onesweetwh1rld

06-20-2004, 02:52 AM

its on the newsgroup now. i imagine that it will be on servers tomorrow or soon there after.
thanks

greppson

06-20-2004, 02:53 AM

too bad the ants 00-04 server is down.

burke

06-20-2004, 03:18 AM

i am listening to what i have downloaded now of hoyt's source. sounds really really good. i mean there is little crowd noise and you cant hear all of us singing along during the song. props.

eric_dmbfan03

06-20-2004, 05:14 AM

It'll get torrented here, eventually.
http://www.sharingthegroove.org/msgboard/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=60

FPrefect61

06-20-2004, 09:04 AM

Was Hoyt's source the one where we got the mp3s of the new songs?

Crumbo

06-20-2004, 10:21 AM

another source hitting the newsgroups now:

Dave Matthews Band
6.17.04
UMB Bank Pavilion
Maryland Heights, MO

Taper: Bob Haag <bobbo@justdmb.com>
Source: AKG 460 JW Mods (ck61 caps) > "Ice" Cables > Sound Devices MP2 > SBM-1 > D8 @ 44.1
Location: Sec Right, Row F, Seats 26,28
Conversion: Sony D8 > Delta DiO 2496 > Soundforge 7.0 > CD WaV > MKW

Disc 1

01 Intro 2:57
02 Too Much 5:32
03 Granny 4:57
04 Dave Intro to > 1:24
05 What Would You Say? 5:44
06 Rhyme and Reason 6:42
07 Joy Ride # 5:23
08 When The World Ends 4:40
09 I Did It 4:07
10 Warehouse 10:16
11 Crazy-Easy # 6:45
12 Grey Street 5:35
13 Crush 12:26

Disc 2

01 Hello Again # 5:43
02 Drive In Drive Out 7:09
03 Grace Is Gone 13:11
04 Help Myself 6:13
05 PNP > Rapunzel 15:32
ENCORE
06 Sefan Intro To > 1:20
07 Sugar Will # 7:41
08 Stay 7:50

Notes:
# First time played. Working Title
Entire show with Butch Taylor on Keys

compiled by Bob Haag <6.19.04>

boilermaker26

06-20-2004, 11:52 AM

another source hitting the newsgroups now:

Dave Matthews Band
6.17.04
UMB Bank Pavilion
Maryland Heights, MO

Taper: Bob Haag <bobbo@justdmb.com>
Source: AKG 460 JW Mods (ck61 caps) > "Ice" Cables > Sound Devices MP2 > SBM-1 > D8 @ 44.1
Location: Sec Right, Row F, Seats 26,28
Conversion: Sony D8 > Delta DiO 2496 > Soundforge 7.0 > CD WaV > MKW

Disc 1

01 Intro 2:57
02 Too Much 5:32
03 Granny 4:57
04 Dave Intro to > 1:24
05 What Would You Say? 5:44
06 Rhyme and Reason 6:42
07 Joy Ride # 5:23
08 When The World Ends 4:40
09 I Did It 4:07
10 Warehouse 10:16
11 Crazy-Easy # 6:45
12 Grey Street 5:35
13 Crush 12:26

Disc 2

01 Hello Again # 5:43
02 Drive In Drive Out 7:09
03 Grace Is Gone 13:11
04 Help Myself 6:13
05 PNP > Rapunzel 15:32
ENCORE
06 Sefan Intro To > 1:20
07 Sugar Will # 7:41
08 Stay 7:50

Notes:
# First time played. Working Title
Entire show with Butch Taylor on Keys

compiled by Bob Haag <6.19.04>

This one sounds great to me. I appreciate all the tapers!

greppson

06-20-2004, 11:54 AM

Hoyt's sounds wonderful. Just getting the last track off the newsgroup now. Really nice and clear. Hardly any crowd noise at all. :thumbsup
http://www.sharingthegroove.org/msgboard/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75440

hoyt's

burke

06-20-2004, 02:13 PM

any comparison between the two? I think hoyt's the best I have heard in awhile. Is Haag's better?

boilermaker26

06-20-2004, 02:21 PM

any comparison between the two? I think hoyt's the best I have heard in awhile. Is Haag's better?

They both sounded good to me, albeit I listened to them on my computer, and not with good speakers. Hoyts sounded like it was probably cleaner, with less crowd noise. I for one do not mind some crowd noise on the shows, as it seems more like a concert experience. There is volume adjustment during Too Much on Hoyts. Other than that, they both sound good to me.

onesweetwh1rld

06-20-2004, 02:34 PM

This may sound stupid, but how do you connect to the newsgroups? I put the address in my browser and it doesnt work... I've tried lots of different things.

burke

06-20-2004, 02:52 PM

you need a newsgroup reader. i use grabit.

onesweetwh1rld

06-20-2004, 02:56 PM

you need a newsgroup reader. i use grabit.
Thanks, I got xnews, as recommended by this FAQ dealie... working fine now :-D

bauman

06-20-2004, 03:06 PM

I've heard a little of Hoyt's. It sounds great in terms of music, but the vocals are definitely a little "off". Haag's is going up on the newsgroup now so I'm going to check out some of that after I get Hoyt's d/l. I don't think you can get much of a better location than Hoyt did, but maybe Haag's equip. was better... I don't know until I listen to Haag's.

yin_yang

06-20-2004, 08:01 PM

well, hoyt's is up, but haag's isn't for some reason, on groove at least...

greppson

06-20-2004, 08:21 PM

sounds like shambro is going to BT his too--his was the source the new songs came from.

FPrefect61

06-21-2004, 12:50 AM

Haag's is louder, but I think I like Hoyt's better. I'll wait and see how Shambro's is before burning.

Gary

06-21-2004, 03:07 PM

Haag's has much more treble clarity than Hoyt's, but less bass. I have yet to hear Shambro's, but if it was the source for the new song clips, it might be the best.

gkfiedl

06-21-2004, 10:25 PM

any one know where to find shambro's or haag's sources? i got hoyt's and it sounds great but i just want to hear the others before committing myself to it. thanks.

rhuss

06-21-2004, 11:59 PM

6-17-04 UMB Bank Pavilion, Maryland Heights, MO (http://www.antsmarching.org/tour/ViewShow.php?ShowID=3405)- > (Vote) (http://www.antsmarching.org/tour/favsource.php?ShowID=3405)

Currently No Sources Available

slacker ....

FPrefect61

06-22-2004, 12:22 AM

any one know where to find shambro's or haag's sources? i got hoyt's and it sounds great but i just want to hear the others before committing myself to it. thanks.
Haag's is up on the newsgroup, grab it there if you can. :)

Hey Joe M Dot, what's with the lack of sources on top? :p

Donald V

06-22-2004, 12:49 AM

slacker ....

haha :lol

Donald :)

iPond317

06-22-2004, 01:29 AM

Anyone heard anything about Shambro's source? I'm looking to get his just because the original four songs released on 6-18 sound the best of all the recordings I've heard... Hoyt's sounds almost too distorted with the bass.

blondevega

06-22-2004, 01:57 AM

How do i get this whole thing going? i was at the UMB and right in front of the recording. I would love to download the concert, just a little confused

GatorMark

06-22-2004, 03:50 AM

How do i get this whole thing going? i was at the UMB and right in front of the recording. I would love to download the concert, just a little confused

go to sharing the groove (www.sharingthegroove.org) and read the faqs on how to get started. Both sources are there and available for dl, and right now they are very fast due to a lot of seeders. You will need to download a bit torrent program. it is all quite confusing if you are unfamiliar. just do a google for bit torrent and go the sharing the groove. PM me with questions or AIM: markgoody81

justdmbobbo

06-22-2004, 01:32 PM

Haag's has much more treble clarity than Hoyt's, but less bass. I have yet to hear Shambro's, but if it was the source for the new song clips, it might be the best.

In St. Louis they didn't have the bass stacks turned up very loud at all. You can definately tell a difference between the first night and the following 3 I ran the very same setup last night (creek2) and the tape came out with a significantly more even treble/bass ratio. Not to mention in St. Louis I was much closer to the bass stacks than I was at creek.

Joe M.

06-22-2004, 06:28 PM

My ISP blows (anyone that follows my posts knows this) I'm posting from dialup right now. Only a couple more months on this ISP and then I can switch. So right now putting sources on my server does no good because you guys won't get them because my ISP only like to keep me online about 50% of the time.

Crumbo

06-22-2004, 07:42 PM

My ISP blows (anyone that follows my posts knows this) I'm posting from dialup right now. Only a couple more months on this ISP and then I can switch. So right now putting sources on my server does no good because you guys won't get them because my ISP only like to keep me online about 50% of the time.

I sent you a PM about this :cool:

Crumbo

06-23-2004, 06:06 PM

here is another source that can be found here:

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=5540

Dave Matthews Band
June 17, 2004
UMB Bank Pavilion
Maryland Heights, MO

Taper: Joe Shambro (joe@209productions.com)

Source: Earthworks SR77 > Lunatec V2 > D100
Front row right side, seat 10, mics 17' ORTF

Conversion: D100 > S/PDIF > Digidesign Digi002-R (S/PDIF in) >
ProTools 6.1.2 (slight EQ, compression/limiting) >
Peak 3.2 (track breaks) > MacFlac 2.1

!!! DO NOT CONVERT TO MP3 FORMAT !!!

DISC 01:

01. Intro
02. Too Much
03. Granny
04. Intro to >
05. What Would You Say
06. Rhyme & Reason
07. Joy Ride
08. When the World Ends
09. I Did it
10. Warehouse
11. Crazy-Easy
12. Grey Street

DISC 02:

01. Crush
02. Hello Again
03. Drive In Drive Out
04. Grace is Gone
05. Help Myself
06. Pantala Naga Pampa >
07. Rapunzel
08. Sugar Will
09. Stay

NOTES:
---
- Slight volume shift during Too Much of about 5db.
- All new songs, first time played.

Compiled 6/19/04

FPrefect61

06-24-2004, 12:02 AM

here is another source that can be found here:

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=5540

Dave Matthews Band
June 17, 2004
UMB Bank Pavilion
Maryland Heights, MO

Taper: Joe Shambro (joe@209productions.com)

Source: Earthworks SR77 > Lunatec V2 > D100
Front row right side, seat 10, mics 17' ORTF

Conversion: D100 > S/PDIF > Digidesign Digi002-R (S/PDIF in) >
ProTools 6.1.2 (slight EQ, compression/limiting) >
Peak 3.2 (track breaks) > MacFlac 2.1

!!! DO NOT CONVERT TO MP3 FORMAT !!!

DISC 01:

01. Intro
02. Too Much
03. Granny
04. Intro to >
05. What Would You Say
06. Rhyme & Reason
07. Joy Ride
08. When the World Ends
09. I Did it
10. Warehouse
11. Crazy-Easy
12. Grey Street

DISC 02:

01. Crush
02. Hello Again
03. Drive In Drive Out
04. Grace is Gone
05. Help Myself
06. Pantala Naga Pampa >
07. Rapunzel
08. Sugar Will
09. Stay

NOTES:
---
- Slight volume shift during Too Much of about 5db.
- All new songs, first time played.

Compiled 6/19/04
Very nice, have to pick this up. Any initial opinions on this source?

Crumbo

06-24-2004, 12:04 AM

Very nice, have to pick this up. Any initial opinions on this source?

haven't listened to it yet but from what I've heard it's pretty sweet:D

FPrefect61

06-24-2004, 07:17 PM

haven't listened to it yet but from what I've heard it's pretty sweet:D
I think I like Shambro's the best. :)

dmband_fan1

06-24-2004, 08:48 PM

Without a doubt go for Shambro's. I've heard Hoyt's as well.

gerlack

06-25-2004, 09:19 AM

Hi all. I am new here and still have a lot to learn. I would like to download this show but am confused by what I am reading. Are the different recordings you are talking about posted on the SHN server? I thought the server was down? I am also confused by the references to newsgroups (what are they and do you use the antsdownloader to access them). I have tried to read all the FAQ'a but I am still confused. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

rhuss

06-25-2004, 09:44 AM

Hi all. I am new here and still have a lot to learn. I would like to download this show but am confused by what I am reading. Are the different recordings you are talking about posted on the SHN server? I thought the server was down? I am also confused by the references to newsgroups (what are they and do you use the antsdownloader to access them). I have tried to read all the FAQ'a but I am still confused. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
pretty sure the new 2004 shows have been moved to the other server, so you should be able to get them.

there is a nice big thread about the newsgroups. try reading this: http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23543

gerlack

06-25-2004, 11:50 AM

Thanks for the help rhuss. I have started to download the show (Ryan Hoyt) but I cannot get file 13/25 to download (Downloading /2004/dmb2004-06-17.ka200n.shnf/dmb2004-06-17d01t10.shn). AntsDownloader will run for apx 3 1/2 hours and then I loose my connection (I have a dial up connection w/Juno.) I am not sure if Juno is ending my connection or if I have another problem. I have downloaded for several hours before withhout being booted by Juno, so I am not sure what to think. I guess AntsDownloader starts over with this file everytime I try to download it? It does not look like it picks up in the middle of the song. Is this correct? Does anyone have any thoughts?

arrabyla30

06-25-2004, 01:32 PM

I am downloading the flac's of Shambro's source via Bit Torrent and when I try to decode them with the FLAC Frontend I keep getting errors. Anyone else experiencing this?

Adam

Crumbo

06-25-2004, 01:41 PM

I am downloading the flac's of Shambro's source via Bit Torrent and when I try to decode them with the FLAC Frontend I keep getting errors. Anyone else experiencing this?

Adam

with bit torrent you have to make sure the whole show is downloaded before you do any decoding.....bit torrent grabs bits and pieces of each file

nb816

06-25-2004, 02:08 PM

how do i play a downloaded torrent?

arrabyla30

06-25-2004, 02:59 PM

with bit torrent you have to make sure the whole show is downloaded before you do any decoding.....bit torrent grabs bits and pieces of each file

Cool, thanks. I guess I wasn't patient enough.

Adam

rhuss

06-25-2004, 03:05 PM

Thanks for the help rhuss. I have started to download the show (Ryan Hoyt) but I cannot get file 13/25 to download (Downloading /2004/dmb2004-06-17.ka200n.shnf/dmb2004-06-17d01t10.shn). AntsDownloader will run for apx 3 1/2 hours and then I loose my connection (I have a dial up connection w/Juno.) I am not sure if Juno is ending my connection or if I have another problem. I have downloaded for several hours before withhout being booted by Juno, so I am not sure what to think. I guess AntsDownloader starts over with this file everytime I try to download it? It does not look like it picks up in the middle of the song. Is this correct? Does anyone have any thoughts?
i would not download shows via dial-up. goto the trading forum and look for a B&P.

rhuss

06-25-2004, 03:07 PM

how do i play a downloaded torrent?
1st of all you don't play a downloaded torrent. torrent is just the application.

if you are talking about playing .shn files check the FAQ

.flac files check wiki.etree.org

danbtalkin

06-27-2004, 09:47 AM

Whose tape is better, Hoyt's or Haag's?

JmoneyDMB

06-27-2004, 04:53 PM

I like shambro's tape

dm40band

06-27-2004, 06:10 PM

what's the difference between haag's and shambro's that makes shambro's better?

danbtalkin

06-29-2004, 01:03 AM

This Sarnovsky tape isn't too bad, plus you can get the set from the opening act (O.A.R.) from www.archive.org

Buelt56

07-02-2004, 02:18 AM

how do i actually play what i just dl??????

rhuss

07-02-2004, 02:28 AM

how do i actually play what i just dl??????
read the FAQ's

dm40band

07-02-2004, 03:14 AM

that's you play them damn i have been doing this wrong :lol

Nick976

07-22-2004, 08:53 PM

Why isn't Shambro's source up on this site?