Boston Red Sox

[slk11086]

Here is one for you:

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051211&content_id=1280513&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos

Imagine if Clemens came back. I would say our starting rotation would be the best in baseball.

[MistreatedLewis]

I'm a little bummed that Olerud is retiring. I was hoping for another year out of him, but it has definitely been a good run. I hear he wants to do some local high school stuff back home in Seattle...I'm all for anything he ends up doing, whether it be with baseball or just a peaceful retirement.


:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup As a Mets fan, he is my favorite baseball player of all time. I know he's not a celebrity. I know he was only on the team for a few years. But I have never seen such a professional in baseball... such a positive attitude, great skills, and everyone swears he is the nicest guy. And he was low key! He was just amazing and I am sorry to see him retire.

[MistreatedLewis]

Here is one for you:

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051211&content_id=1280513&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos

Imagine if Clemens came back. I would say our starting rotation would be the best in baseball.

White Sox would still have a pretty good one, but yeah... that'd be pretty fucking impressive.

[MistreatedLewis]

So is Manny leaving Boston b/c he cheated on his wife?

[ProudestAnt]

The Sox officially have their CF...

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2006/01/23/source_sox_agree_to_crisp_deal/

Good deal personally, although I do hate to see Marte go without even seeing what he can do. The essential deals work out more for the Indians, but that's to be expected when one team has a need and the other doesn't. It breaks down as such:

Marte for Crisp. Marte is one of the most coveted prospects in baseball and was the trade for Renteria. So it really breaks down as Renteria for Crisp. Crisp is an upgrade for the Sox defensively and is a switch-hitter with power, so the Sox are coming out on top since Marte is unproven at the MLB level.

Riske for Mota: Basically a wash, they're relievers who have had good years and bad, but I'll give the edge to the Sox since Riske has had better years than Mota.

Bard for Shoppach: With Mirabelli gone and Shoppach was going to be the guy to give Tek breaks, I'm confused by this deal. Obviously Bard is a AAA catcher and may never be more than that, so the edge goes to the Indians on this one.

The Sox lineup now breaks down as such:

1. CF Crisp (upgrade at power and defense; downgrade at OPB and AVG)
2. 2B Loretta (upgrade at defense, OPB, AVG and power)
3. DH Ortiz
4. LF Ramirez
5. C Varitek
6. 3B Lowell (upgrade at defense and potentially power)
7. RF Nixon/probably add a right-hander to platoon
8. 1B Youkilis and Snow (not much of an upgrade if any)
9. SS Gonzalez (upgrade at defense)

The Rotation and Pen
1. RHP Schilling
2. RHP Beckett
3. RHP Clement
4. RHP Wakefield
5. RHP Papelbon

Pen:
RHP Arroyo
RHP Timlin
LHP Delcarmen
LHP DiNardo
RHP Seanez
RHP Tavarez
RHP Riske

Closer: RHP Foulke


I'm liking the way this team is shaping up. Definitely going to be an interesting AL East this season. Can't wait...

[ProudestAnt]

Crisp deal is finally done. Time to move on to signing Gonzalez at SS and this team will be primed for an AL East title...

[Rob]

You don't see Youk and Snow as an upgrade over Millar and Olreud? Youk is unproven at 1st, but he certainly can't be any worse than Millar, and his offense will certainly be better. Olreud and Snow are a wash at this point.

[dowling25]

why would we give up marte who is supposedly the next best thing and mota for crisp i don't get it???

[Rob]

Marte is a prospect- it's like playing with money that doesn't exist. We have an immediate need hole, and Crisp is the best man for the job. Marte is extra depth we don't need- the Sox already have Lowell and, if need be, Youk at 3rd.

I'd be very surprised if Crisp and Damon didn't have very similar numbers next year, with Damon having an advantage in OPS and Crisp on top in slugging. Defensively, he's an upgrade as well.

If you take a step back, we dumped Edgar and his ridiculous salary essentially for Crisp. Mota for Riske is a wash. Bard for Shoppach is the only bone in the deal for us. We're now younger, and the payroll is much lower.

[slk11086]

I am really excited about how the Sox are shaping up.

The whole starting line-up except Gonzalez (if we get him), Nixon, and Youkilis will bat upwards of 300, and we still have Ortiz and Manny to drive in runs. Not only are our players going to be better offensively, there is the potential for every single one of our infielders to be gold glovers.

What I am most excited about is our pitching though. Our starting rotation (whether Wells is traded or not) will be the best its been for as long as I can remember, and we have proven relievers. A lot of young guys, who were looking really good last year, probably won't even be on the roster opening day roster (del carmen, lester, hansen), which is saying a lot about the amount of talent in the bullpen.

[ProudestAnt]

I really wish the other version of this trade had gone though so we could have kept Marte, but getting Crips is amazing as it is.

I'll give my analysis of this trade:

First, it's true that Marte is a top 5 prospect, but he's unproven at the major league level. Plus, it seems to me that the Braves were rather quick to get rid of him. And the Sox didn't even consider putting Delcarmen in the trade instead of Marte. Which makes me think that there is something we don't know about the kid.

Second, Crisp and Damon are almost equal in value. They both hit over .300 with equal steals, RBIs and OPB. However, Crisp has more power and batting in a batter-friendly park like Fenway will improve his numbers 14%, which is the average for incoming hitters at Fenway coming from pitcher-friendly parks, such as the Jake. Look for equal numbers for the two at the plate this season, but Crisp is a big upgrade in the field with a stronger arm and a bit larger range.

Third, to comment on what others have said in the thread. Why we gave up Marte was already answered, but as for why we gave up Mota. He's a 70 inning guy with a questionable shoulder. He's also 33 years old with a 4ish ERA. Riske, on the other hand, is 30 (three years younger), will easily give 90 innings if needed, and has an ERA of 3.25ish. He's a huge improvement...

[dowling25]

now i like the trade way better then before

[Rob]

You can't forget, there's another trade coming. We have eight starting pitchers (counting Arroyo). Once Spring Training starts and injuries happen or expectations are missed, we'll start dealing some of these bums from a position of power. While I think Gonzales will still end up as out SS (great D, doesn't bother bringing a bat to the plate, but alot of teams have gotten away with poor offensive SS's, and we've upgraded the offense around SS at 2nd and 3rd), there's still a surprise coming.

[ProudestAnt]

You can't forget, there's another trade coming. We have eight starting pitchers (counting Arroyo). Once Spring Training starts and injuries happen or expectations are missed, we'll start dealing some of these bums from a position of power. While I think Gonzales will still end up as out SS (great D, doesn't bother bringing a bat to the plate, but alot of teams have gotten away with poor offensive SS's, and we've upgraded the offense around SS at 2nd and 3rd), there's still a surprise coming.I only count 7 starters, but I'm probably missing one:

Schill
Beckett
Clement
Wake
Papelbon
Arroyo
Wells

Anyway, you're right, there is a big move coming by July 31st (trade deadline). Don't look for Gonzalez though, word today was they were moving away from him for a platoon of Cora/Graff until Pediora is ready...

[Rob]

I lumped DiNardo in w/ the starters as well, as he's done it before.

Gonna move Pedroia back to SS? Well, at least he can hit... He's a long ways off, from what I understand. At least they only "wasted" one year with him at 2nd.

[ProudestAnt]

I lumped DiNardo in w/ the starters as well, as he's done it before.

Gonna move Pedroia back to SS? Well, at least he can hit... He's a long ways off, from what I understand. At least they only "wasted" one year with him at 2nd.Actually, the organization has said he may be starting as early as July. I say they'll hold him until next season, but it's reassuring to know that we have a SS waiting in the wings...

[slk11086]

It seems like there is a lot that is falling into place that I never even realized. Trading Renteria for Crisp essentially, sending away Hanley Ramirez for more starting pitching and a great third baseman. We are now in a position where we have an abundance of pitching, and fielders too. Something will happen with Wells before the start of the season, and I'm interested to see what we get in return for him. And we don't know what will happen to Manny either. I think that despite a small lack in range, Graffanino is as sure handed a short stop as we need and a .300 or so hitter, he would be a good interim player until Pedroia is ready. We are in a good situation whatever happens.

edit: and the red sox depth chart lists six starting pitchers with Arroyo in the bullpen.

[ProudestAnt]

It seems like there is a lot that is falling into place that I never even realized. Trading Renteria for Crisp essentially, sending away Hanley Ramirez for more starting pitching and a great third baseman. We are now in a position where we have an abundance of pitching, and fielders too. Something will happen with Wells before the start of the season, and I'm interested to see what we get in return for him. And we don't know what will happen to Manny either. I think that despite a small lack in range, Graffanino is as sure handed a short stop as we need and a .300 or so hitter, he would be a good interim player until Pedroia is ready. We are in a good situation whatever happens.

edit: and the red sox depth chart lists six starting pitchers with Arroyo in the bullpen. It won't be Graffy at SS, it'll be Cora with Graffy giving him days off. Graffy's range won't allow him to be a solid enough SS. Cora is solid at defense and his offensive production will be alright considering the lineup he's surrounded by...

[ProudestAnt]

Guess I was wrong about Gonzalez. He just signed a 1-year $3 million deal. Guess our team is set. Looking forward to this season...

[slk11086]

Guess I was wrong about Gonzalez. He just signed a 1-year $3 million deal. Guess our team is set. Looking forward to this season...


I wonder what we will do with three back up infielders (Cora, Graffanino, Snow/ Youkelis). Its an interesting/ good situation for us to be in.

[Rob]

Well, we have great D at SS, even if we just added 3-4 outs at the bottom of our lineup...

[ProudestAnt]

Truck day was today, that means only 5 days until pitchers and catcher report!! Soo stoked for the season to start...

[MistreatedLewis]

If Schilling can throw the ball, you guys may have a nice season.

If Beckett can throw the ball, you guys may have a nicer season.

I'll be interested to see how Crisp works out...

[GoLdpHiShDMB]

Here we go Phillies, Here we go!

[TempHelpNeeded]

Here we go Phillies, Here we go!



Booooo :p :)

[ProudestAnt]

4 days...

[ProudestAnt]

3 days!:monkey

[ProudestAnt]

Foulke is at camp! He threw for 13 minutes yesterday and is showing some rust, but definite promise. Francona is very happy saying that Foulke thinks he has something to prove this year. He's there 4 days early, so I think he's serious about coming back. This is awesome news...

[ProudestAnt]

2 days...

[TempHelpNeeded]

Can't wait for this season...all I can remember about the Yankees is we beat them in the last series of the season...and all I can see is a very promising season. The pitching looks good, but there could be some interesting moves still. I'd love to see em win it all again...show those "fluke" arguments up!
:twenty4

[Rob]

It must be spring training... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/TECurran88/SoSH%20Stuff/Demon.jpg

[ProudestAnt]

Just made official. The Sox have traded right hander Bronson Arroyo to the Reds for OF Willy Mo Pena...

[davehead34]

Just made official. The Sox have traded right hander Bronson Arroyo to the Reds for OF Willy Mo Pena...

Well, we do have an abundance of pitchers this year. I heard Bronson wasn't even going to make the 5 starter rotation when they get that going later in the season (Terry wants to start with a four man rotation).

[Rob]

No way in hell will the Sox have a 4 man rotation. Wells and Schilling are a combined three thousand years old, and Beckett and Clement haven't proven they're durable.

[GOB_]

Well, we do have an abundance of pitchers this year. I heard Bronson wasn't even going to make the 5 starter rotation when they get that going later in the season (Terry wants to start with a four man rotation).

I thought Wells was the odd man out? I guess his "idiot" comment wasn't a big deal. I still don't quite understand the move. Arroyo has averaged over 30+ starts the past two seasons.

[davehead34]

No way in hell will the Sox have a 4 man rotation. Wells and Schilling are a combined three thousand years old, and Beckett and Clement haven't proven they're durable.

Rob, check out the bold script...

Although the Red Sox have embraced the moniker in the past, David Wells did not mean it as a compliment when he call manager Terry Francona an "idiot."

The pitcher, who has already asked for a trade and changed his mind this spring, talked to Francona earlier in the week about the rotation, asking why Josh Beckett isn't the No. 1 starter, then was upset when the manager revealed details of their conversation.

"What went on in that office should have stayed there in that office and it shouldn't have come out to you guys," Wells told The Hartford Courant in Saturday's edition. "So he's the idiot for saying that like that, not me, because I didn't interpret it like that."

Wells said Thursday that he felt "pretty good" after his first outing of spring training. The Red Sox left-hander wasn't thrilled, though, that his first outing of the regular season might be delayed.

With two days off in the first eight days of the season, Boston won't need a fifth starter until mid-April. Wells, who was set back by offseason surgery on his right knee, would be the likely candidate to be held back although he said his knee feels fine.

"I'd have a problem with that," he said Thursday. "I know they've got an abundance of pitching. That's one thing they don't lack."

Curt Schilling, Tim Wakefield and Beckett are penciled in as the first three starters with Matt Clement likely the fourth.

"I don't see why Clement should sit out. He's having [an outstanding] spring," Wells said, but "I'm not the type of guy that's going to sit around for two weeks before my first outing. It's not right."

Wells said Boston should start with a five-man rotation, but manager Terry Francona prefers keeping his top four pitchers on their regular four days' rest, which would preclude an early five-man rotation.

Wells "might give you headaches. But he's a pretty good kid," Francona said. "In general, there are going to be times when I have to tell people things that they don't exactly want to hear. David's a good example.

"Sometimes you've got to be a little flexible. For the most part, it's hard to get players to look at the big picture also. I understand that. They're looking at their next start or their next at-bat," Francona said.

The 42-year-old Wells reported to camp hoping to be traded close to his home in San Diego. But early in spring training, he said he preferred to stay with Boston so he wouldn't have to worry about the issue while he worked his way back from surgery.

He said the knee felt fine Thursday when he threw 53 pitches to Red Sox minor-leaguers in an intrasquad game. He threw 34 strikes in three innings and allowed two runs on five hits with no walks and one strikeout.

Wells said he only needs to throw 15 to 20 innings in spring training, even if some of those are in minor-league games. What if he does that well and remains healthy and the Red Sox still hold him back until mid-April?

"It's too early to really speculate on that," Wells said. "If they still feel the same way after a few more outings then we're definitely going to have to sit down and talk.

"I don't see myself sitting until April 15 to wait to pitch," he said. "I just don't see it at all."

[Rob]

Which is why you should take anything on espn.com with a grain of salt. Who wrote it? Where did they get their information?

For info on the Sox, you should be reading SOSH, not espn.com.

[davehead34]

Which is why you should take anything on espn.com with a grain of salt. Who wrote it? Where did they get their information?

For info on the Sox, you should be reading SOSH, not espn.com.

Here's the link: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2374106

I don't discredit much of what ESPN writes. They've proven to be pretty reliable for information when I need it; however, I listen to WEEI as often as possible (Internet radio :)). That's where I get most of my information.

[Rob]

No writer listed = no credibility.

EEI is satan.

Check out SOSH for real, legit info.

[ProudestAnt]

Rob, chill. It's very common for teams to start with 4 man rotations to start the season. It gets the pitchers accustomed to the 4 days rest, since many of the early games are spaced so far apart. Around the end of April, they start adding a fifth man as the games get closer together. Francona has said he wants to start with a rotation of Schilling, Beckett, Wake and either Wells or Clement depending on who's farther along. Look for Wells to get dealt early in the season and Papelbon moving into the fifth spot in the rotation by June...

[davehead34]

I'm not sure ESPN would deliberately post ficticious or inaccurate material. Just because it doesn't have an author mentioned doesn't mean the contents of the article are false. What's your beef with WEEI? What do you prefer over it? I've never had any problems with the commentators or their beliefs/opinions.

[slk11086]

No way in hell will the Sox have a 4 man rotation. Wells and Schilling are a combined three thousand years old, and Beckett and Clement haven't proven they're durable.

Check Redsox.com for the same info. Wells will make his first start April 12 if they do it Francona's way.

[davehead34]

You know, I really liked Arroyo. He seemed like a guy I'd like to hang with and it's sad to see him go. I read this article, and perhaps some of you guys have, too, but after reading this article (sorry, Rob - it's an ESPN article) I felt particularly bad for Arroyo.

Arroyo, here's your last package," assistant equipment manager "Pookie" Jackson said with a good-natured smile Tuesday.

Arroyo flashed his usual smile back, but on this day the expression couldn't mask his sadness. He was leaving a city he loved - where he bought a home less than two months ago - and where he and Boston Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein played guitar at the same charity event last summer.

On Monday morning, it was Epstein who delivered the news in a brief phone call. He had just traded Arroyo to the Cincinnati Reds for outfielder Wily Mo Pena and he felt bad about parting with a person he liked.

"We were definitely close, probably as close as you could get as a GM to a player, but the game is business, man," Arroyo said with no apparent bitterness. "It's like playing a chess match, man. It's just pieces on the freaking board.

"That's what players are in this business. It doesn't matter how much they like you. They're not going to not make a move because of personal feelings."

It took a long time for the deal to sink in.

"My brain was scrambled," said Arroyo, who was packing for the regular season when Epstein's name flashed on his cell phone. The pitcher knew what was coming, having heard rumors the day before of a deal for Pena.

Arroyo had trouble tearing himself away from the team he joined in 2003. He helped the Red Sox win the 2004 World Series and had developed a following in Boston as a rock musician and singer with flowing blond locks.

He arrived at City of Palms Park before 8:30 a.m. Tuesday and chatted with closer Keith Foulke, who was still sitting on his motorcycle.

At noon, Arroyo sat in the clubhouse in a dark green T-shirt, talking with four pitchers dressed in their Red Sox jerseys for the 1 p.m. game against Tampa Bay.

When will it finally sink in that he's no longer playing in the city he called his "second home" and where he wanted to spend his entire career?

"Probably as soon as I turn on the TV and see the Red Sox playing and I'll be playing somewhere else," Arroyo said.

That became very obvious at about 4 p.m. when the affable Arroyo arrived at the Reds' training complex in Sarasota, just 83 miles north of Fort Myers. He signed a few autographs in the parking lot and walked into his new clubhouse for the first time, his red No. 61 jersey (the same number he wore with Boston) still in plastic in his locker stall.

"Our karaoke team just got better," Reds pitcher Kent Mercker said.

Moments later, Ken Griffey Jr. walked over to Arroyo, who was talking with about eight reporters.

"Excuse me, sorry to break up your press conference," Griffey said as he shook hands with his new teammate, then referred to Boston's large media contingent. "This is how we do it in Cincinnati, we don't have like 35 (reporters) here."

It was "kind of hard to be ripped away from" the Red Sox, Arroyo said in Sarasota. "But it's a business and they do what they want to do to benefit the team. I'm sure I'll have a good time here once I get comfortable."

He always knew a trade was a possibility but had heard so many rumors that never became reality that he stopped worrying. Even when he signed a three-year deal last Jan. 19 at a relatively low $11.25 million - a figure that made him attractive to other teams - he thought he'd be safe at least until the middle of the season.

The deal wasn't easy on Boston manager Terry Francona, either.

"It's hard for everybody," he said. "I saw Theo agonize, and he's the one that's still got to pull the trigger."

Before agreeing to give the Red Sox a hometown discount, Arroyo said, he told the team's negotiators that "I'm not signing this deal to end up in Tampa Bay in two weeks. And they said to me, `There's no deal for you on the table right now and we don't foresee trading you anytime in the near future.' Those were the exact words."

"In my mind this is pretty soon, but they told me there was no guarantee," he said.

The Red Sox have a surplus of starting pitchers and Arroyo, who figured to start the season in Boston's bullpen, could be the No. 2 man in Cincinnati's rotation.

"That's the only benefit in my mind right now," Arroyo said. "It still doesn't make it any less disappointing to leave."

Regardless of what opinions you have of him, he loved Boston. I'll remember him for that.

[davehead34]

I can't believe we traded Graff... :thumbsdow

[ProudestAnt]

We didn't trade Graf, we let him go. It was the right choice, there was no room for him on the team.

Opening day is upon us. Officially 12.5 hours until first pitch in Texas...

[ProudestAnt]

Starting out huge so far. Schilling's pitching a gem, fanning Blalock with a 95mph in the 4th. Tek gets the first two RBIs of the season and Papi hits a HUGE 2-run shot...

[ProudestAnt]

Great win today, Schilling pitched great and everyone contributed.

Good article about Boston and Clemens:
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060403&content_id=1381403&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

[davehead34]

1st place, bitches. :cool

I know we got (Loretta?) from San Diego at 2nd base, but Graff was a good player to have around.

[Chuck5625]

Boston Red Sox Suck!

[MistreatedLewis]

Boston Red Sox Suck!

Really? They looked pretty good today.

Maybe you are confused and it is you who sucks?

[ProudestAnt]

1st place, bitches. :cool

I know we got (Loretta?) from San Diego at 2nd base, but Graff was a good player to have around. Again, there was no room for him. Cora can play all infield positions and now we have Willie Harris who can play OF and IF. Our bench is set. At least we let him go instead of letting him rott in the minors...

[dowling25]

Papelbon is the shit. Go SOX!

[davehead34]

Really? They looked pretty good today.

Maybe you are confused and it is you who sucks?

:thumbsup Agreed.

Boston Red Sox Suck!

Right. The Sox suck but I bet you put in for tickets to the Fenway shows. Fucking tool.

[ProudestAnt]

Great game today, showed a little small ball ability, solid pitching from Wake. Foulke pitched well and although he was shakey, Paps pitched great, considering it was his first appearance in back-to-back games. If Foulke can rebound, which I think he will, our bullpen will be scarey and possibly the best in the league...

[Rob]

I just bought my Papelbon jersey. Thank god for pro-jerseys.com. So cheap, yet so nice. Got my wife her V-tek with the C on that site. Awesome jerseys, awesome prices.

[davehead34]

I just bought my Papelbon jersey. Thank god for pro-jerseys.com. So cheap, yet so nice. Got my wife her V-tek with the C on that site. Awesome jerseys, awesome prices.

:thumbsup Thanks for mentioning that website. I've never heard of it before and it looks like they have great deals.

Glad to see that Ortiz will be with us for a while longer. He was quoted as saying how he wanted to end his career in Boston. It almost brought tears to my eyes :lol Looking forward to tonight's home opener!

[taraflorida]

Quick question: What web site do you all use to follow the games while at work? I've been using Yahoo sports. Any recommendations?

[greppson]

espn gamecast.

[MistreatedLewis]

espn gamecast.

Is this significantly better than mlb gameday?

[greppson]

i like it, it updates pretty easily, shows me all i need to know/see.

[Ascf33]

Is this significantly better than mlb gameday?

Anything has to be better then MLB gameday. Unless its a connection problem here at work, I find myself like 2 batters behind all the time.

[slk11086]

What a great game today. In the back of my mind I was thinking, "It would be amazing if Loretta could hit a walk-off homerun."

[greppson]

that was a GREAT win. i caught most of the game during my lunch hour, but when i got back to my office, i watched the gamecast, saw the two strikeouts and then youk get on. loretta hadn't had a hit all day, so i figured he was due. but when i actually saw it come up, i was like HOLY SHIT!

great great stuff.

[greppson]

great game last night. another pull through victory.

[rickyh24]

great game last night. another pull through victory.



how clutch was that catch by Stern? I wonder if Crisp would have made the same play.

[davehead34]

11-4. Not to say that I've ever stopped loving this team, or loved them any less, but I REALLY love these guys right now. We're playing really well as a team right now and the Yanks are sucking it up. LIFE IS GOOD. :cool

[Koreelove]

11-4. Not to say that I've ever stopped loving this team, or loved them any less, but I REALLY love these guys right now. We're playing really well as a team right now and the Yanks are sucking it up. LIFE IS GOOD. :cool

yo chase!!! you know I'm a Sox fan this year... I follow players not teams and my boy Beckett is on the Sox this year.....so yeah....:cool

[davehead34]

yo chase!!! you know I'm a Sox fan this year... I follow players not teams and my boy Beckett is on the Sox this year.....so yeah....:cool

:thumbsup As long as you're not rooting for the bad guys :) Sorry about not calling you back last night. We were on the beach jammin/mingling/drinking. By the time I got back to the house it was like 1am:eek Needless to say, it's going to be a long day...

[Koreelove]

:thumbsup As long as you're not rooting for the bad guys :) Sorry about not calling you back last night. We were on the beach jammin/mingling/drinking. By the time I got back to the house it was like 1am:eek Needless to say, it's going to be a long day...

it's cool man. I planned on playing phone tag with you anyway for the next few weeks. we need to catch up though. I hear that you may be bailing out of some shows and I don't like it one bit! It's samara's bday today....I'll be driving up to Orlando (probably gonna see B~rad)

[davehead34]

it's cool man. I planned on playing phone tag with you anyway for the next few weeks. we need to catch up though. I hear that you may be bailing out of some shows and I don't like it one bit! It's samara's bday today....I'll be driving up to Orlando (probably gonna see B~rad)

Oh shit that's right! I can't believe I know two people born on 4/20 :lol That's awesome hahaha Tell B-rad I said hey hey hey :cool

[dowling25]

why can't we score when wakefield pitches?

[davehead34]

why can't we score when wakefield pitches?

You got me. I feel bad for Wakefield. The past few outings for Wake reminded me of Pedro. There were too many times where Pedro pitched incredibly and the Sox simply couldn't muster two or three runs to seal the deal. It sucks dude especially because I love Wake.

[specialkd24]

I've got a question for all the Boston area residents on here.

My wife and I are coming to Boston in July for the Red Sox/KC series. We are going to spend the weekend in New Hampshire at the Nascar race and then come to those series of games.

Can anyone suggest a good hotel and area to stay at? I've looked at Hotwire (where I usually get hotels from) and Hotels.com. I'm not looked for a super fancy hotel, just something nice and clean - b/c we'll spend most of our time seeing and doing things. So any suggestions on where we should stay?

We'll have a rental car, but taking the subway is cool with us, I know a lot of people have mentioned that is a good way to get around - so if it is, maybe a hotel near one of the stations would be good.

Thanks for any input you can give me.

[dowling25]

finally manny on the board!

[Bswartz95]

The wheels fell off tonight.

[slk11086]

The wheels fell off tonight.

I stopped watching.

[dowling25]

we need to turn it around here tonight against tampa.

[davehead34]

we need to turn it around here tonight against tampa.

:thumbsup Agreed. We certainly do.

[ProudestAnt]

Dougie's back!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2428645

[davehead34]

Dougie's back!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2428645

Phew! Thank god! :D

[davehead34]

How great was last night?! In honor of Johnny Demon's 0-4 performance, I thought I'd dig up the infamous quote where Johnny stated how he could never tranisition to the dark side:

There's no way I can go play for the Yankees, but I know they are going to come after me hard. It's definitely not the most important thing to go out there for the top dollar, which the Yankees are going to offer me. It's not what I need.

Here's looking forward to another great game tonight!

:cheers

[tankdan]

Hey, I'm trying to make it to a game at Fenway before I go home for the summer (and come back for DMB... I have to see baseball there before I can see DMB, it's just the rule).
Does anyone have a way to sell me tickets for next weekend's series against the Rangers? I'm looking for one or two tickets for Sunday. Any suggestions/offers?

Dan

[davehead34]

Sorry, Dan, but I don't have any Sox tickets for sale. Heck, I don't think I'll even be able to make it to a game this summer myself.

[magentaflash]

Hey, I'm trying to make it to a game at Fenway before I go home for the summer (and come back for DMB... I have to see baseball there before I can see DMB, it's just the rule).
Does anyone have a way to sell me tickets for next weekend's series against the Rangers? I'm looking for one or two tickets for Sunday. Any suggestions/offers?

Dan

I go to BC as well, let me know if you find tickets... :lol

[PhishFleck41]

I go to BC as well, let me know if you find tickets... :lol

I'm applying to BC next year, I have a sister up there. I have had some good times up at cleveland circle.

Phillies own the Bosox.

[magentaflash]

I'm applying to BC next year, I have a sister up there. I have had some good times up at cleveland circle.

Phillies own the Bosox.

Maryann's used to be the place to go... as far as the phillies owning the sox, you might change your tune once you live here :p

[greppson]

Maryann's used to be the place to go... as far as the phillies owning the sox, you might change your tune once you live here :pyou're a sox fan?

damn. if i had known that, i would have hit on you a long time ago.

:lol

(considering we've both been around for a while!)

[tankdan]

I go to BC as well, let me know if you find tickets... :lol

Hey, a BC ant! I'm still looking for tickets, but there are single seat tickets available at redsox.com. I'd like to get 2 or 3 or 4 from ebay, but I'm not too fond of the idea of ebay.

If you are serious about coming to the game, I could try to get 3 or 4 and you could come?

Seeya!

Dan

[dowling25]

YES... thats all i have to say.

[davehead34]

Phillies own the Bosox.


Fri. 24 at Philadelphia W 8-0 42-30 Wakefield (6-6) Lieber (8-7) 45,090
Sat. 25 at Philadelphia W 7-1 43-30 Clement (9-1) Padilla (3-7) 44,868
Sun. 26 at Philadelphia W 12-8 44-30 Timlin (2-1) Cormier (2-2) 45,042

:lol Yeah, you guys rock. :rolleyes

[magentaflash]

you're a sox fan?

damn. if i had known that, i would have hit on you a long time ago.

:lol

(considering we've both been around for a while!)

I have a sordid baseball history... was a SF Giants fan as a young child, because I liked the NY Giants in football and they had the same name. Then visited Camden Yards and became an Orioles fan. Didn't fall for the Sox until around 2001, but now I'm diehard. Watch every game (while I'm here anyway). I need one of those MLB passes at home. :shrug

[dowling25]

i got one of those passes, and boy i love it. Big Papi needs to heat up and hit some moon shots.

[greppson]

I have a sordid baseball history... was a SF Giants fan as a young child, because I liked the NY Giants in football and they had the same name. Then visited Camden Yards and became an Orioles fan. Didn't fall for the Sox until around 2001, but now I'm diehard. Watch every game (while I'm here anyway). I need one of those MLB passes at home. :shrug
That's sad.

The NY Giants are... not that great. :(
The SF Giants just got a whole bunch of... bad cloud with all the Barry stuff. I really wonder what he could have done without the roids.
I love the look of Camden yards. Feels so classic, but new to me. I definitely wnat to catch some games there at some point.
I went to a few Sox games as a kid, collected baseball cards cause my cousins/uncle had a card shop, but never really got into the sox til about 2003. Diehard fan. Watch every game I can when I'm not working. We've been doing good lately, but if everything can get hitting and the pitchers can get back into their grooves(Schilling especially), we'll be unstoppable.

[dowling25]

Do you think that Wells will come back?

[davehead34]

Do you think that Wells will come back?

It's possible, but I'm not entirely sure we'll need him anytime soon (provided Schilling stays in good health).

[greppson]

or if we got the rocket.

:shock

[dowling25]

Do you think that Clemens will come here?

[magentaflash]

That would be amazing. Wakefield needs to step it up a bit as well.

[dowling25]

no he is pitching well, he just needs some run support.

[greppson]

i don't know about the rocket. there is a good article by jayson stark on espn.com talking about all the situations if he went anywhere but houston, he'd piss off fans. i think for him it is not a money issue, but more where he wants to end his career and have a memorable time out. he could do that anywhere, but i'd love to see a player say "screw the money, i'm going to ________ cause i want to finish it all where i started."

[dowling25]

So what are the odds you think?

[magentaflash]

"More like a million to one..."



"... so you're telling me there's a chance!"

[davehead34]

i don't know about the rocket. there is a good article by jayson stark on espn.com talking about all the situations if he went anywhere but houston, he'd piss off fans. i think for him it is not a money issue, but more where he wants to end his career and have a memorable time out. he could do that anywhere, but i'd love to see a player say "screw the money, i'm going to ________ cause i want to finish it all where i started."

:thumbsup I read that article. Great read. I really don't see him going to a Texas team despite the fact that it's his home team. I think he wants to go out with a bang, and he'll go with the team with the best chance of winning. It's a toss up between NY and Boston, IMHO.

[davehead34]

"More like a million to one..."



"... so you're telling me there's a chance!"

:lol Great movie!

[dowling25]

:thumbsup I read that article. Great read. I really don't see him going to a Texas team despite the fact that it's his home team. I think he wants to go out with a bang, and he'll go with the team with the best chance of winning. It's a toss up between NY and Boston, IMHO.


I bet he chooses Boston!

[ProudestAnt]

He's going to Houston...

[dowling25]

what makes you so sure.

[magentaflash]

He would definitely be the final piece to the puzzle here in Beantown... wow that would be an amazing set of starters.

[dowling25]

yeah. schill, becket, rocket, wake, and clement

[greppson]

"More like a million to one..."



"... so you're telling me there's a chance!"
"YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!"

[ProudestAnt]

yeah. schill, becket, rocket, wake, and clement HAHAHA, that's a hell of a lineup, but that SO wouldn't be the rotation.


And I'm sure he's going to Houston because if they have a slim shot at making the playoffs they'll pay him and accomodate him any way they can...

[dowling25]

HAHAHA, that's a hell of a lineup, but that SO wouldn't be the rotation.


And I'm sure he's going to Houston because if they have a slim shot at making the playoffs they'll pay him and accomodate him any way they can...

Who do you think?

[ProudestAnt]

Who do you think? Rocket, Beckett, Schill, Clement, Wake...

[davehead34]

Rocket, Beckett, Schill, Clement, Wake...

You think they'd have the balls to put Beckett in front of Schill? He has an ego to maintain.

[dowling25]

Rocket Schill Beckett Clement Wake

[dowling25]

David Ortiz is such a monster!

[davehead34]

Rocket Schill Beckett Clement Wake

:thumbsup That's what I had in mind. How about Josh smacking one out of the park!?

[dowling25]

:thumbsup That's what I had in mind. How about Josh smacking one out of the park!?

all around star. Yanks Sox tonight. big games

[davehead34]

all around star. Yanks Sox tonight. big games

:multi God damn it man! I live for these showdowns! :D:multi

[musket015]

i know me to!

[dowling25]

Red Sox 10 Yanks 0 toinght!

[davehead34]

Red Sox 10 Yanks 0 toinght!

:thumbsup BOOOOOOYAAAAAAA!

:knocks on BIGASS piece of wood

[dowling25]

is wakefield tomorrow?

[UglyNakedGuy]

Rocket, Beckett, Schill, Clement, Wake...

Ryan, you think they'd put Rocket, Schill, & Beckett all in a row?

They all have similar pitching styles, I think it would be more effective to put Wakefield in between them somewhere during the regular season.

But during the playoffs, yeah I think you are right.

[davehead34]

Ryan, you think they'd put Rocket, Schill, & Beckett all in a row?

They all have similar pitching styles, I think it would be more effective to put Wakefield in between them somewhere during the regular season.

But during the playoffs, yeah I think you are right.

Dude, LOVE the avatar!

[dowling25]

The game is starting!!! :thumbsup

[UglyNakedGuy]

Dude, LOVE the avatar!

Thanks bro...



Game is on. Schill just eased through the first inning. Should be a great game, and I expect the Sox to beat up on Wang

[magentaflash]

'Twas a good one... almost lost it at the end there.

[UglyNakedGuy]

Foulke sucks, we need to get rid of him.

[dowling25]

What ever happened to him?

[davehead34]

What ever happened to him?

I don't know man, but I was SWEATING and cursing out Tito (aka: Grady Francona :lol) in the 9th man. Especially after the back-to-backs.

[TempHelpNeeded]

Last night scared the shit out of me...let's hope none of this happens when we have only a 5-3 lead over the Yanks, or any team for that matter.

[davehead34]

Last night scared the shit out of me...let's hope none of this happens when we have only a 5-3 lead over the Yanks, or any team for that matter.

:thumbsup Agreed. Thank god we had that eigth inning rally!

[TempHelpNeeded]

:thumbsup Agreed. Thank god we had that eigth inning rally!


Very, very true. Each one of those runs...I was like "alright, pile it on cause it's the Yankees. But I really don't care, we should win. I just want to see the NBA playoffs now."

I shoulda shut my mouth and wished for more! :D

[Antelope]

Anyone see that comeback Wang caught from Varitek? That was pretty good, even for a Yankee, go RED SOX!

[davehead34]

Anyone see that comeback Wang caught from Varitek? That was pretty good, even for a Yankee, go RED SOX!

Hell yeah it was! Wang got another grounder right near him the previous batter, too! I think Jeter was able to field it, though. It looked like it hurt his hand. That ball had some speed on it.

[greppson]

I think they should have left Schill in to pitch the 9th. I bet he could have done it. He was only at 99 pitches.

[davehead34]

I think they should have left Schill in to pitch the 9th. I bet he could have done it. He was only at 99 pitches.

:thumbsup Agreed; however, I wasn't sure if he took himself out or not. I know the commentators were discussing this on ESPN during the game. Apparantly, Tito allows Schill to stay in as long as he wants. I can't remember the last time I watched a Sox game where our pitcher played a full game. I think the last pitcher I saw do this was Pedro... I think. It's been a while, though.

[dowling25]

well clement got his shit rocked tonight.

[magentaflash]

well clement got his shit rocked tonight.

Is he having nerve issues when he pitches against the yanks? He just did not seem like himself.

[dowling25]

Is he having nerve issues when he pitches against the yanks? He just did not seem like himself.

who knows. Hopefully thats it and he can get on track whenever else he pitches.

[dowling25]

That is so terrible what happened to Wells cause he was pitching really well. Hopefully its nothing to serious and he can pitch on his next start.

[dowling25]

the players are starting to go down which isn't a good sign. Manny, Timlin, and Wily Mo. Thank God Crisp came back today.

[UglyNakedGuy]

Anyone know if Manny is supposed to play tonight?

[dowling25]

I heard that they were going to give him another day, but we will serious. Is it that serious of an injury?

[dowling25]

big series today with the yanks.

[dowling25]

Ahhhhhh!!!!

[Lcsulla]

Question:

Outside of Papelbon you guys have very limited bullpen options right now with Timlin out. Since you guys are short on lefty relievers and you might need DiNardo (your only southpaw reliever) for spot starts with Wells' health issues; why not give Jon Lester a shot? From all I've read he seems to have the stuff and pitching smarts to do a halfway decent job and perhaps a damn good one. I understand not wanting to rush him but given that DiNardo is currently your only possible lefty option out of the pen it would seem logical to try him right about now. Common sense baseball dictates you'll need a viable lefty option out of the pen and I'm not sure DiNardo is it because of Clement's struggles and Wells' health. Thus, he (DiNardo) seems like a 'long man' or spot starter to me leaving your pen devoid of a situational lefty for all intents and purposes.

Could he do much worse then the 'seasoned' righties you parade out there anyhow? Alvarez, Van Buren, Seanez, Tavarez, Riske, Foulke (what happened here?) etc, etc aren't exactly pitching too stellar, none have under a 4.34 ERA. Not a knock on them just wondering how much worse Lester could do if you give him a shot.

From what I read Lester can get righties out too so it would seem to make sense to me. Hell, I'd probably ship Seanez and Riske down and call up Lester and Craig Hansen (another, though righty, pitcher I think has the stuff to succeed.)

Any thoughts here? Genuinely curious.

[UglyNakedGuy]

Farnsworth, Small, Erickson, and Turtze all have ERAs over 4.85 for the Yankees, so ya'lls bullpen isn't pitching too stellar either.

[Lcsulla]

Farnsworth, Small, Erickson, and Turtze all have ERAs over 4.85 for the Yankees, so ya'lls bullpen isn't pitching too stellar either.

Good god dude, what's your point? Did I insinuate that they were? Did I compare the Yankee pen to the Sox pen? Not everything is an arguement or Yanks/Sox comparison. I asked a question about one of your prospects. Plain and simple cut and dry - where else should I have asked it - the Yankee thread?

I don't even get where your response came from - it's not relevant at all to anything I said. All I did was ask why they are holding him back despite his apparent good qualities. Is it that hard to put aside that I am a Yankee fan for two seconds and answer a question about the Sox? Wouldn't it have just been less confrontational to just answer the question I asked? I was hardly looking for a debate or arguement, just a simple answer because my guess is you all read more about the Sox than I do.

[greppson]

with lester (and potentially hansen), from what i've read, they don't want either of their 1st starts in the big leagues to be at yankee stadium, too much pressure, i think. they said lester might be brought up by the end of june if things keep going the way they are.

[greppson]

Farnsworth, Small, Erickson, and Turtze all have ERAs over 4.85 for the Yankees, so ya'lls bullpen isn't pitching too stellar either.

seriously dude, you really need to chill.

[magentaflash]

Hoping for a better showing tonight than last night.


PS- I just got upgraded to front row for the July 7th Fenway concert. dmb+red sox=most amazing night ever

[Lcsulla]

with lester (and potentially hansen), from what i've read, they don't want either of their 1st starts in the big leagues to be at yankee stadium, too much pressure, i think. they said lester might be brought up by the end of june if things keep going the way they are.

That was one of my thoughts Jason. Makes sense too, debuting in a big Fenway series last year Melky was just overwhelmed. Thanks!

[Lcsulla]

Guess I wasn't too far off since they just called Hansen up less than an hour ago:

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20060606&content_id=1491554&vkey=pr_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos

[dowling25]

yea for tonight!

[davehead34]

yea for tonight!

Tell me about it. I was afraid to watch ESPN news for days...

[ProudestAnt]

Guess I wasn't too far off since they just called Hansen up less than an hour ago:

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20060606&content_id=1491554&vkey=pr_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos Kiss Paps goodbye from the closer roll come all-star time. Lester as a LRP will come up next and Hansen will slowly be moved into the closer roll so Paps can move into the rotation. Lester will then be moved in by the end of the season assuming Clement keeps up his mediocre ways...

[UglyNakedGuy]

I love how we dominated that game, and no one here came in and said how we made them look stupid and all this stupid crap the way the Yankees fans in the Yankees thread did when they beat us....

[Ascf33]

I love how we dominated that game, and no one here came in and said how we made them look stupid and all this stupid crap the way the Yankees fans in the Yankees thread did when they beat us....

We lost.

[davehead34]

I love how we dominated that game, and no one here came in and said how we made them look stupid and all this stupid crap the way the Yankees fans in the Yankees thread did when they beat us....

Yeah, some Yankees fans on this board are total asshats, but there are some good ones. ^

[greppson]

I love how we dominated that game, and no one here came in and said how we made them look stupid and all this stupid crap the way the Yankees fans in the Yankees thread did when they beat us....
RELAX. Stop trying to start shit. Have an intelligent discussion or shut up.

This is your last warning.

[davehead34]

So, the Sox are at the exact same point they were last year with regards to their record. Strange, huh? I'm hoping Keith will come around within the next few days. Tito has a lot of faith in that man.

[dowling25]

you know what i wish...i wish that david ortiz you should lay a bunt down that third base side, he would be hitting over .400 that way!

[Ascf33]

you know what i wish...i wish that david ortiz you should lay a bunt down that third base side, he would be hitting over .400 that way!

Sorry to intrude once again but I agree x76344656...

Giambi too man. Jason did it once last year and got a standing O from Yankee stadium. I know the pitchers are throwing it so they pull and all but come on now, you are professional hitters.

[MistreatedLewis]

If I were a Sox fan, I would be so nervous every single time Wakefield starts. He just doesn't feel like a trustworthy pitcher to me. He's had some brilliant games.... but it seems like more often than not....

[MistreatedLewis]

Sorry to intrude once again but I agree x76344656...

Giambi too man. Jason did it once last year and got a standing O from Yankee stadium. I know the pitchers are throwing it so they pull and all but come on now, you are professional hitters.


Jason HGHiambi?

[Ascf33]

Jason HGHiambi?

:lol

Prob got it from Jason HGHrimsley.

[MistreatedLewis]

:lol

Prob got it from Jason HGHrimsley.


I'm trying to figure out why he supposedly sold all these guy out, and THEN changed his mind and called a lawyer...

[dowling25]

ha ha ha ha thats a good one!

But seriously Big Papi needs to bunt it!

[davehead34]

If I were a Sox fan, I would be so nervous every single time Wakefield starts. He just doesn't feel like a trustworthy pitcher to me. He's had some brilliant games.... but it seems like more often than not....

I (we) are, but the stress and anxiety isn't nearly as bad with good ol' Doug Mirabelli catching for him. Bard was... uggggghhhhh... I don't even want to talk about it.

[davehead34]

you know what i wish...i wish that david ortiz you should lay a bunt down that third base side, he would be hitting over .400 that way!

We've seen him do that a few times this season, but he should do it more often. The best hitters are the ones that make EVERYONE on the field clueless as to where the balls going to be hit/placed.

[dowling25]

We've seen him do that a few times this season, but he should do it more often. The best hitters are the ones that make EVERYONE on the field clueless as to where the balls going to be hit/placed.

exactly what i am thinking!

[dowling25]

Big Papi again!!!!

[dowling25]

What happened tonight!

[UglyNakedGuy]

What happened tonight!

? Huh

[dowling25]

? Huh

I meant to say last night with the Grand Slam we gave up

[davehead34]

I meant to say last night with the Grand Slam we gave up

Tavarez is a fucking joke. Why the hell do we think it's necessary to obtain players from the losing 2004 WS team? We dumped Cabrera for Renteria. That worked out great, and Tavarez is just swell.

[dowling25]

Well that was good that Lester pitched well

[surfmonkey]

Here is a site that has some Boston Red Sox stuff, has the bat boy taken down that clown who ran across home plate the other day.
http://www.barstoolsports.com/

[dowling25]

i love big papi!

[Rob]

Another walk-off? ::yawn::

[dowling25]

ok so papelbon blew a save, but who cares big papi again!

[smeritt]

Finally someone gets to the kid. He's been superman all year

[dowling25]

he still is, what era rose to 0.46

[smeritt]

I'm just saying up to that point hes been literally invincible

[dowling25]

yeah one game though. we still won, and are now on a 9 game winning streak or something like that!

[smeritt]

I'm just saying it's nice to know he can be hit

[dowling25]

yeah for most people.

[ProudestAnt]

I'm just saying it's nice to know he can be hit I still remember the moment we all finally found out that Mo was hittable. Great day...

[dowling25]

^ ha ha ha

[dmbgodagirl41]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=260626102

BOOYAH GRANDMA

[dowling25]

^ very good

[davehead34]

Finally someone gets to the kid. He's been superman all year

I know! I was wondering when he was going to finally blow a save. I know this isn't the first time I've said this, but thank god for Papi.

[dowling25]

everyone should say thank god to papi.

[smeritt]

Apparently the Sox are 40-0 when leading after 8? Did i hear that right today on Around the Horn?

[MistreatedLewis]

As a Mets fan, I feel far more uncomfortable facing Boston than the Yanks right now...

[dowling25]

you should waht a 10 game win streak i believe

[Rob]

Perfect return for Pedro- 90% cheers, 10% boos (fuck anybody that booed), followed by a proper shelling.

[dowling25]

I still love Pedro but I am glad we are winning.

[dowling25]

11 games baby!

[TempHelpNeeded]

solid win tonight, oh and the ten games before that!!! :bounce

[dowling25]

ha hah a
go for another sweep tomorrow

[TempHelpNeeded]

That would be awesome! It would also just be one example from the AL dominating the NL during interleague play. So far the AL has pwned the NL!!! I'd love to see another sweep. Braves, Nationals, Phillies, Mets. Then maybe Florida and we'll have a sweep of the NL East. :D :thumbsup

[dowling25]

yeah i saw a stat that the al was up like 121-50 yesterday and had scored over 200 more runs.

[dowling25]

what a great game last night, everything went right. Schill pitched great, great fielding (COCO), and just solid baseball! They looked last night that they could keep on winning!

[Bartndrpleez]

So nice to see my Fish end your 12 game win streak. :D One of the HOTTEST teams in baseball right now, which is unbelievable to say. 14-4 in the last 18 and 23-10 over the last 33.

Great to see Mikey Lowell and A-Gon get the treatment from the fans, especially Lowell. LOVED that guy!! :thumbsup:thumbsup

[ProudestAnt]

International free agent signing started yesterday and the Sox already made a splash signing one of the top two available players:

"Young Engel Beltre made the jump to professional baseball with the hopes of being the next David Ortiz, or following in the footsteps of Ken Griffey Jr.

And it is with the Boston Red Sox that he signed for $600,000, Sunday. The largest contract ever given out by Boston in the Dominican.

According to one executive of the Red Sox, Beltre is a five-tool player...

"This is a kid who has all the qualities you want in a prospect, and it is the most important signing we have made in this country." (whither Luis Soto?) said the coordinator of international scouting, John Dipuglia.

Beltre is 16 and a half years old, and is one of four brothers, each one a faithful fanatic of the Red Sox.

"David Ortiz is my favorite player and I am thankful to the Red Sox for the opportunity they have given me," said Beltre minutes after putting his signature on the lucrative contract.

Beltre is a centerfielder with an above average arm, plays good defense, and combines hitting for a high average, with power potential.

Beltre has played baseball for 7 years and one of his instructors describes him as a complete player.

"This boy has all the chance to develop into a future star. He is a hard worker and he will be able to flourish if he stays that way," said Santiago Jimenez, a manager on one of the teams in one of the smaller Dominican leagues.

Beltre will be assigned to the minor leagues. But he will begin this year in the Red Sox Dominican complex, and next year he will play in the Dominican Summer League." - a rough translation from the spanish yahoo report

[dowling25]

well you can't do much against kazmir when he pitches like that

[dowling25]

I just want everyone to know that last night on David Ortiz's grand slaml... I called and said the first pitch Papi is hitting a grand slam.

So you should all be thanking me for that.
Go Sox!

[dowling25]

really good first half of the season if you ask me. This is a special team and I know it.

[UglyNakedGuy]

Anyone know news on the Sox discussing trading Trot to Philly for Abreu? How much substance is there to these rumors?

[dowling25]

wow i had not heard this. what would think of that move?

[jmudmbphan]

any of you know what the deal with schilling is???

[dowling25]

^ whats going on with him?

[jmudmbphan]

ohh i was just refering to the liner he took off his elbow...didnt see the game or hear/read much about it on ESPN...just heard xrays were neg...but you never know with an elbow..thought mabye heard some sort of update.

[dowling25]

o i didn't know that he had gotten hit, did you hear that nixon for abreu trade rumors?

[jmudmbphan]

o i didn't know that he had gotten hit, did you hear that nixon for abreu trade rumors?

have not heard that...i thikn abreu is twice the player that nixon is though..the sox would be lucky to get him.

[dowling25]

i don't know that is what ugly guy said earlier and was just wondering if someone else had heard that. That would be a great pick up. but i really like nixon.

[dmbgodagirl41]

okay, so found this today

go to www.nesn.com
in the multimedia section on the front page, scroll down to where Schilling talks about Sox Loss
watch
pay attention to around 45 seconds

:lol

[dowling25]

not a good way to start the first two games back.

[baloneybandit21]

the saux got CRUSHED today, disgusting when i saw the box score

[TempHelpNeeded]

yeah...becket gets dumped on and the bullpen blows some runs. julian is a joke. go punch another dugout and break your hand, idiot.

[UglyNakedGuy]

I love Beckett, and he's gonna be an ace in a couple years, but he needs to become more consistent.

[dowling25]

thats how we should play every game!

[ProudestAnt]

First shutout since July 25th of last year. Unbelievable stat, but true...

[dowling25]

great comeback last night. i thought we were going to get shutout from the royals for a while. Mirabelli came through last night, and hopefully wake isn't hurt to bad.

[dowling25]

what a game tonight. lester was amazing. 1 hitter thats great!

[dowling25]

DAMMIT Timlin

[greppson]

they pulled me up and then broke me.

they had to keep timlin in though. no one knows how long the game could have gone and it would have been down to tavarez and seanez.

[magentaflash]

gah! at least the yanks lost as well...

[dowling25]

BIG PAPI AGAIN! He is my hero

[RJ2kWJ]

BIG PAPI AGAIN! He is my hero

Im not really a fan of anyone in baseball, just like to pay attention... but that moment was UNREAL. Hearing the crowd chant MVP then he cranked it to center... that was nuts. All of my Bo Sox friends were going absolutely crazy.

[jmudmbphan]

:lorraine :lol

[dowling25]

Mark Loretta Game Winning Hit Again!!! This Is So Amazing

[redsox14]

Mark Loretta Game Winning Hit Again!!! This Is So Amazing
:thumbsup

That was awesome

[ProudestAnt]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2538688

[dowling25]

Does anyone know what David Ortiz is on pace to hit?

[Ascf33]

Does anyone know what David Ortiz is on pace to hit?

He's about to hit into a 6-4-3 heart attack if he doesn't stop swallowing Big Mac's by the whole.

[UglyNakedGuy]

He's about to hit into a 6-4-3 heart attack if he doesn't stop swallowing Big Mac's by the whole.

:rolleyes

[Ascf33]

:lol

I know. I'm an idiot.

[dowling25]

finally a W

[Ascf33]

:lorraine

[TempHelpNeeded]

^ YOU BEST BE CRYIN'!!!

...stankee!


:D

[the only gweeps]

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/041206_041213/041208_king_hup.hmedium.jpg

[TempHelpNeeded]

Steven King has got to be the sexiest man alive.

[rockyracoon]

how many more games do the yanks and sox have against each other?

[Ascf33]

Alot. 5 game series coming up next week. not sure after that.

EDIT: 8 games total. 5 this weekend in Boston and 3 in NY in Sept.

[rockyracoon]

just wondering. on a side note, here's hoping that the sox keep those hideous red jerseys in the locker room for the 3 game set against the tig's mon- wed. should be a fun series.

[dowling25]

Let's keep the winning going sox!