Boston Red Sox

[ProudestAnt]

I am just sick of his mug on commercials! That commercial with Harvey Keitel is amazing...

[Lcsulla]

It was like the 4th longest homer at the Jake.


Edit: 3rd longest...

Didn't know that... damn!

How about we go infielder for an outfielder? Jeter, thanks. A consistent leader for a consistent leader. (only Manny gets a 7 on the funkometer)

Sure, take Cano........... PLEASE!!!! Phillips maybe? Giambi? :lol

Umm, how about not...

HAHAHAHA! :)

Serious question though, why is it that every year they shop him around? They've even thrown him on waivers if memory serves. Is it the flightiness or the contract?

[ProudestAnt]

Didn't know that... damn!



Sure, take Cano........... PLEASE!!!! Phillips maybe? Giambi? :lol



HAHAHAHA! :)

Serious question though, why is it that every year they shop him around? They've even thrown him on waivers if memory serves. Is it the flightiness or the contract? It's because he wants attention and says he wants to be traded, even thought he knows damn well that we'll never trade him...

[Lcsulla]

That commercial with Harvey Keitel is amazing...

Personally I like the commercial with Ortiz, Posada, and Wally! :)

[Lcsulla]

It's because he wants attention and says he wants to be traded, even thought he knows damn well that we'll never trade him...

Fair enough, thanks! Makes sense. I am not sure you can replace him though, no one will protect Ortiz like he can.

[ProudestAnt]

Personally I like the commercial with Ortiz, Posada, and Wally! :) That's funny too. "Wally! It's not what you think!"

[thebestauntie]

Nice! Pettitte is one of my favorite players. He is good and classy. Jeter is not a favorite of mine, I am just sick of his mug on commercials! Giambi, great guy, just made some dumb choices that will forever taint him! No love for Mo? ;)

Also, A-Rod is just amazing. I have enjoyed him since Seattle. He's just that good. When he came to NY I was ecstatic! I have been behind him since day one and it is damn annoying that all these same shitheads who have bashed him since 2004 are now singing his praises. If they have possibly run him out of town I will be livid, after all these are the same fools who booed DiMaggio, Mantle, Maris, Rivera, etc, etc. :rolleyes
Oh, Mo, right, sorry, my bad. He's my all time favorite Yankee!! Without him the Sox might never have won the ALCS in 2004!! Oh, and I agree with everything in your first paragraph (except for Jeter's mug, there's not enough of it around here! :evil ). Giambi won me over during a home run derby a few years ago. He won the derby and was so adorable and happy for the family that got the house and whatever prizes because he won. He had such joy for helping out someone else. I found that quite touching in this day and age when most athletes are concerned for what's in it for them. And Pettite is just classy.

[ProudestAnt]

Fair enough, thanks! Makes sense. I am not sure you can replace him though, no one will protect Ortiz like he can. Ortiz? Oh, you mean the jerkoff who has needed knee surgery for the past two seasons?

[thebestauntie]

Me too, I have a a few autographs of his, one that he signed for me in person. Meeting him was probably my biggest thrill in my life as far as baseball goes! :)
Wow, that's awesome!

[thebestauntie]

That commercial with Harvey Keitel is amazing...

Personally I like the commercial with Ortiz, Posada, and Wally! :)
I don't think I've seen these commercials..

[thebestauntie]

It's because he wants attention and says he wants to be traded, even thought he knows damn well that we'll never trade him...
That and no one will take him for the money he'll want. He doesn't want to go to a big media town, but those are the only places that can afford him. He's a big baby in that respect. But man the man can hit!

[ProudestAnt]

I don't think I've seen these commercials..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUwJAkVbAHA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aGUx5FW5fQ

Enjoy!

[groton]

Woot SOX WON YANKS LOST :)

[Lcsulla]

Oh, Mo, right, sorry, my bad. He's my all time favorite Yankee!! Without him the Sox might never have won the ALCS in 2004!! Oh, and I agree with everything in your first paragraph (except for Jeter's mug, there's not enough of it around here! :evil ). Giambi won me over during a home run derby a few years ago. He won the derby and was so adorable and happy for the family that got the house and whatever prizes because he won. He had such joy for helping out someone else. I found that quite touching in this day and age when most athletes are concerned for what's in it for them. And Pettite is just classy.

Nice post .. BUT :middle finger on the bolded part! :)

Being out in the bleachers for game seven was the lowpoint of my baseball life!

Ortiz? Oh, you mean the jerkoff who has needed knee surgery for the past two seasons?

Really? Are you serious? I have been in NJ for the last two weeks swamped at work and living in a virtual bubble as far as news goes. Does he really need surgery or are you being sarcastic?

OH and one last random Sox comment - Congrats to Lester - GREAT to see him back. Feel good story of the year IMO.

[ProudestAnt]

Nice post .. BUT :middle finger on the bolded part! :)

Being out in the bleachers for game seven was the lowpoint of my baseball life!



Really? Are you serious? I have been in NJ for the last two weeks swamped at work and living in a virtual bubble as far as news goes. Does he really need surgery or are you being sarcastic?

OH and one last random Sox comment - Congrats to Lester - GREAT to see him back. Feel good story of the year IMO. Yea, he needs knee surgery...

[thebestauntie]

Nice post .. BUT :middle finger on the bolded part! :)

Being out in the bleachers for game seven was the lowpoint of my baseball life!

OH and one last random Sox comment - Congrats to Lester - GREAT to see him back. Feel good story of the year IMO.
:eek I'll have to report you to a moderator, oh wait.....

And thanks for the Lester comment, it was an emotional game!

[Lcsulla]

Yea, he needs knee surgery...

Is that happening at seasons end I assume? Or is he out? As much as it would help me that still sucks when a marquee player goes down.

[ProudestAnt]

Is that happening at seasons end I assume? Or is he out? As much as it would help me that still sucks when a marquee player goes down. End of the season. He can still play on it, but it's the main reason for his lack of production this season...

[thebestauntie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUwJAkVbAHA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aGUx5FW5fQ

Enjoy!
Oh my friggin word that was funny!!! I'm sittin here cryin! Classic, classic, classic ESPN commercial. :lol :lol I'll have to send that link to a few friends.

Oh, and I have seen the Harvey Keitel one, that's good too.

Thanks so much for posting those.

[ProudestAnt]

Oh my friggin word that was funny!!! I'm sittin here cryin! Classic, classic, classic ESPN commercial. :lol :lol I'll have to send that link to a few friends.

Oh, and I have seen the Harvey Keitel one, that's good too.

Thanks so much for posting those. My pleasure...

[thebestauntie]

End of the season. He can still play on it, but it's the main reason for his lack of production this season...
Didn't he need the surgery last year too?

[Lcsulla]

:eek I'll have to report you to a moderator, oh wait.....

And thanks for the Lester comment, it was an emotional game!

Go right ahead, report me. No_one_cares@antsmarching.org! ;)

I was very happy to see Lester back. That sucked to hear that last year, just a horrible break to a good kid. Certain things transcend a rivalry - I still smile when I recall Fenway give Joe Torre a standing ovation on his return to the dugout after cancer treatment in 1999.

[ProudestAnt]

Didn't he need the surgery last year too? Yea...

[Lcsulla]

End of the season. He can still play on it, but it's the main reason for his lack of production this season...

Okay, wasn't sure, thanks for the information. Couldn't he just get it done.. like tomorrow? :)

[ProudestAnt]

Okay, wasn't sure, thanks for the information. Couldn't he just get it done.. like tomorrow? :) He could, but then he'd miss the end of the.....oh, I see what you're doing. Nice try...:p

[Lcsulla]

:lol hehe! Figured you'd catch that!

Please don't take that as my hoping for an injury at all, it was just a joke I couldn't resist.

[Lcsulla]

Have a good night all, I spent about 8 hours driving and am spent now. Nice chatting with you all! :)

[thebestauntie]

Go right ahead, report me. No_one_cares@antsmarching.org! ;)

I was very happy to see Lester back. That sucked to hear that last year, just a horrible break to a good kid. Certain things transcend a rivalry - I still smile when I recall Fenway give Joe Torre a standing ovation on his return to the dugout after cancer treatment in 1999.
As my nephew says all the time "I hate the Yankees in the baseball way" but not as human beings, and there are things that transcends baseball and moves into humanity. I would never wish anything bad on any Yankee player ever (well, mabye Bucky Dent - j/k). And I used to think I wanted the Yanks to play poorly all year, but that's not true either, I wasn't enjoying this season as much when the Yanks were 12 games behind the Sox. I like this way much better. :cool

[thebestauntie]

Have a good night all, I spent about 8 hours driving and am spent now. Nice chatting with you all! :)
Good night Jamie, stop by any time (that the Red Sox are winning and the Yankees loosing). :lol

[dowling25]

Are you smoking crack?


i was being sarcastic

[dowling25]

i just saw the score, couldn't watch the game tonight but i was pretty happy to see that we won again. thats 7 out of 8!

[ProudestAnt]

*Takes deep breath* Smell that? That's breathing room...

[thebestauntie]

Breathing room is when the Red Sox are up by 15 games and there's only 14 games left to the season.

[groton]

Breathing room is when the Red Sox are up by 15 games and there's only 14 games left to the season.

QFT really are lead is not Great.
and i had to pay a freind twenty yesterday since the Yanks Went like 20-5 I told him they could not do 20-10 at anypart of the Season lol

[thebestauntie]

Youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuu :monkey :monkey


9 Games!! :bounce :bounce

[dowling25]

wouldn't that be great if the sox could get both gagne and dye

[ProudestAnt]

So can I just say that I'm VERY excited about this Gagne move? Our starters essentially need to give us 5 innings per start. With Delcarmen, Okie, Gagne and Paps waiting, our starters have to have SO much confidence going into their games. Plus, with Hansen starting to pitch great after finding his slider again and Buccholz coming up in September, we're looking at a '96 Yankees type of bullpen...

[dowling25]

who cares if we can't score runs like tonight!

[ProudestAnt]

Manny needs to go...

[dowling25]

why can't the red sox hit at all right now. they are so streaky. manny being manny sucks today double play and swings at first pitch and then misjudges a line drive. just shitty shitty baseball right now.

[dowling25]

jeeze everyone rolls over when they play the yankees. and now the red sox can't do jack squat.

[CaptainNick41]

Fuckkkk

[CaptainNick41]

Sox need to get there head out of their asses, their lead on the league is diminishing.....

[ProudestAnt]

Sox need to get there head out of their asses, their lead on the league is diminishing..... You know we won tonight, right?

[CaptainNick41]

You know we won tonight, right?


So did the yanks

[ProudestAnt]

So did the yanks Yes but we're ahead, so who the fuck cares what happens behind us as long as we're winning?

[dowling25]

what a great win tonight i was pretty upset and they finally got the clutch hits

[Ascf33]

jeeze everyone rolls over when they play the yankees. and now the red sox can't do jack squat.

:lol

We'll be in first by October

[thebestauntie]

Manny needs to go...
And so does Wily Mo ...
Yes but we're ahead, so who the fuck cares what happens behind us as long as we're winning?
:thumbsup
:lol

We'll be in first by October
:thumbsdow

[ProudestAnt]

:lol

We'll be in first by October How's that working out for you?

[dowling25]

good couple of ball games there against the orioles. i am loving wakefield this season. 13 wins or something right....

hopefully they go to seattle and keep rolling

[dowling25]

recorded the game on tivo get home to watch the game and for some reason it stopped recording.

however i guess i would of just watched a loss.

[dowling25]

Red Sox need to win tonight to keep it at 7

[thebestauntie]

Here's hoping!!

[dowling25]

man i hate seeing the sox lose especially when the yanks win. wakefield needs to go out tonight and pitch strong to get another win

[dowling25]

jeeze the red sox need to start winning a few more games and get their lead back to aroun d 7. because its now down to 5

[ProudestAnt]

We're getting our shit together slowly. Schilling's back, Gagne is finally able to settle in now that his first appearance is out of the way, and the offensive lineup is falling into line.

Once Buccholz comes up at the end of the month and takes Wake's spot in the lineup, we'll be good to go. I'm just glad we had that huge lead to piss away before we got our shit together...

[dowling25]

well lets get our shit together a lot faster before its down to 2 games by the end of next week.

[templeofdmb]

We're getting our shit together slowly. Schilling's back, Gagne is finally able to settle in now that his first appearance is out of the way, and the offensive lineup is falling into line.

Once Buccholz comes up at the end of the month and takes Wake's spot in the lineup, we'll be good to go. I'm just glad we had that huge lead to piss away before we got our shit together...
Is this for real? I can't believe I haven't heard about this before now! hmmmwell lets get our shit together a lot faster before its down to 2 games by the end of next week.
amen to that!

[thebestauntie]

Is this for real? I can't believe I haven't heard about this before now! hmmm
amen to that!
I'll second that! :thumbsup

[dowling25]

can you believe this. wily mo actually comes through and then they pack on 4 more. gagne comes in and bends over and takes it up his ass. gagne has sucked ever since he joined the sox and it really pisses me off that he can't get the job done. now its tied up and if the sox lose i will be extremely pissed

[paul22589]

wow that is embarassing. that is definitely one of the worst losses of the season.

[dowling25]

how the hell do they lose that.

GAGNE SUCKS

[thebestauntie]

I'm just glad I wasn't watching the game.

[dowling25]

darn that should of been two runs.

[dowling25]

wow, why did we get gagne he is doing so bad. first batter and he gives up the 2 run home run. i don't understand why you take out okajima who has been lights out the whole season even if they were right handers....

[dowling25]

and gagne blows the lead in the 8th and the sox lose again.

we should of swept the orioles and still be at 6 games up but he blows and its only 4 now.

[groton]

:( dude Was doing good in Texas as well

[Lcsulla]

wow, why did we get gagne he is doing so bad.

Yeah, he blows right now but Theo would have been crucified if he didn't pull the trigger and the Sox ended up blowing the division. The price was too good to pass up; even for a rental. Despite his troubles he is a definite weapon out of the pen. Plus, Okijima is coming up on 60 IP and it is only mid August; so you want him fresh for the stretch run in September. He is still technically a rookie, if it wasn't for Pedroia he'd have my vote for ROY but you still never know how his arm reacts to overuse.

Basically I can think of about ten reasons to get Gagne but not one to pass up that trade; despite that he is liability right now. As a Yankee fan I hope he caught Mark Wohlers disease but as a realist I am guessing he can work through this, his stuff is too good. Remember, even Mo had a stretch like this to open the last however many seasons.

[groton]

Okajima is a Vet Those really Spent what Ten years in the Japanese Majors

[thebestauntie]

All I can say is ARRRGGGHHHHHH :BANG :BANG :BANG :BANG

[Lcsulla]

Okajima is a Vet Those really Spent what Ten years in the Japanese Majors

Which is why I said 'technically' a rookie. ;)

Either way though, he's on pace for about 75-80 innings. I couldn't pull up his Japanese numbers so I am not sure what type of workload is normal for him but that many IP is pretty step for a middle reliever regardless of age or experience. However, you want to limit his use to an extent so he does not have a dead arm come late September going into a stretch run or short playoff series. Gagne will certainly lighten the load.

[ProudestAnt]

Buchholz is starting on Friday!!! GIDDY-UP!!!

[thebestauntie]

Anyone else hold their breath during the top of the 9th inning tonight?

[thebestauntie]

I'll say it now, I wanna have Mike Lowells babies!!!! :D :multi :multi

edit: It's unfortunate that Lester won't get the win. But at least he doesn't get the loss either! Another stellar performance for Lester!

[dowling25]

haven't seen too much of that this season. and up another game too!

[thebestauntie]

haven't seen too much of that this season. and up another game too!
Yeah baby!! :monkey :monkey

[thebestauntie]

Let's all say bah-buy to Wily Mo....:multi:multi:multi:multi

[groton]

Bye Bye Willie

[ProudestAnt]

I'm so stoked about how Buccholz is playing so far, and with Ellsbury on his way up after this game, I'm even more excited. This team just keeps getting younger and better by the day...

[dowling25]

what a nice game to win. put up 6 early and dominate! and Papi went deep! good job bucholtz

[crashintome202]

how far wily mo has fallen... i still think he could put up decent numbers as a starter

[thebestauntie]

how far wily mo has fallen... i still think he could put up decent numbers as a starter
Well good luck to him in DC. And I didn't notice the Yanks going after him...

[dmb0091]

sox=garbage

[thebestauntie]

I HATE GAGNE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! :BANG :BANG :BANG :BANG :BANG

[ProudestAnt]

sox=garbage Yea, that best record in the majors. Woo boy we suck this year...

[crashintome202]

Well good luck to him in DC. And I didn't notice the Yanks going after him...
no need for him plus its not likely the sox and yanks are going to pull off a deal anytime soon.

[thebestauntie]

no need for him plus its not likely the sox and yanks are going to pull off a deal anytime soon.
Ahh, true. I hadn't thought of that part! I'm still glad he's gone.

[dowling25]

didn't watch the game last night. but sounds like gagne did shitty again. what is his deal....

[GinaNMU]

Ugh, I was at the game last night...what a freakin' roller coaster those last innings were. People around us were NOT happy with Gagne obviously, and were making it known.


The good thing about last night is that I finally found the Pedroia t-shirt I've been looking for! :D

[groton]

Ugh, I was at the game last night...what a freakin' roller coaster those last innings were. People around us were NOT happy with Gagne obviously, and were making it known.


The good thing about last night is that I finally found the Pedroia t-shirt I've been looking for! :D

wicked Gina


Today is the 40th Anniversary of Bernie C getting beaned :(

[Lcsulla]

So I actually bought something with a Sox logo on it. Nice autographed picture of Ted Williams. I feel like a traitor but could not resist! :shrug

[groton]

thats wicked Jamie
I want to get one I saw which was Ted Williams and Joe DiMaggio

[Lcsulla]

thats wicked Jamie
I want to get one I saw which was Ted Williams and Joe DiMaggio

Agreed. Rivalry aside I am a baseball memorabilia nut. This is what I want now! Mantle, Dimaggio, and Williams; Steiner authenticated and framed. Just having a conscience crisis on price; but I caught up with someone tonight who owed me $350 worth of DMB tickets so I have the money in hand - just a question of whether to pull the trigger or not. Really could not ask for 3 better players to have hanging on my wall.

What do you think, buy or pass? Bear in mind I already have a DiMaggio, 4 Mantles, and a Williams that are authentic. Ahhh decisions decisions! If it goes for under 4 bills I am leaning towards yes!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250154490059&ssPageName=STRK:MEBI:IT&ih=015#ebayphotohosting

The Williams pic I just snagged is attached. I am happy! Good night grabbing that and another Mantle at good prices! :)

[groton]

Agreed. Rivalry aside I am a baseball memorabilia nut. This is what I want now! Mantle, Dimaggio, and Williams; Steiner authenticated and framed. Just having a conscience crisis on price; but I caught up with someone tonight who owed me $350 worth of DMB tickets so I have the money in hand - just a question of whether to pull the trigger or not. Really could not ask for 3 better players to have hanging on my wall.

What do you think, buy or pass? Bear in mind I already have a DiMaggio, 4 Mantles, and a Williams that are authentic. Ahhh decisions decisions! If it goes for under 4 bills I am leaning towards yes!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250154490059&ssPageName=STRK:MEBI:IT&ih=015#ebayphotohosting

The Williams pic I just snagged is attached. I am happy! :)

I'd say its worth it There is one with The Two Big ones from both teams standing side by side saw it once at the mohegan sun

[Lcsulla]

I'd say its worth it There is one with The Two Big ones from both teams standing side by side saw it once at the mohegan sun

I saw that too actually, last time I was there. The one with Ted and Joe I assume, that nicely framed one? Talk about expensive though! That whole store is nuts. They wanted 2 grand for a 1998 Yanks signed photo and I laughed, put my team set of 8X10's together for about $300 and I like having signed photos of everyone on the 40 man in a binder far more than a single pic.

Still trying to get my uncle to sell me his '27 Yankees ball. His dad was a stadium cop so there is no way it is fake, he was always interacting and drinking with those guys; his pictures with guys like Ruth, Gehrig, Lazzerri, Combs, etc, etc are amazing. He wants to sell it but not being authenticated the offers he got were far less than he expected - to which I said - ME ME ME - keep it in the family! :)

[groton]

I saw that too actually, last time I was there. The one with Ted and Joe I assume, that nicely framed one? Talk about expensive though! That whole store is nuts. They wanted 2 grand for a 1998 Yanks signed photo and I laughed, put my team set of 8X10's together for about $300 and I like having signed photos of everyone on the 40 man in a binder far more than a single pic.

Still trying to get my uncle to sell me his '27 Yankees ball. His dad was a stadium cop so there is no way it is fake, he was always interacting and drinking with those guys; his pictures with guys like Ruth, Gehrig, Lazzerri, Combs, etc, etc are amazing. He wants to sell it but not being authenticated the offers he got were far less than he expected - to which I said - ME ME ME - keep it in the family! :)

yah thats the one i was talking
that shop is super expensive
and the second one wow dude

[Lcsulla]

Sorry to troll in your Sox thread! :lol

Addition by subtraction with WMP? :evil

[Lcsulla]

yah thats the one i was talking
that shop is super expensive
and the second one wow dude

I figured as much and agree completely. Giant ripoff but damn cool stuff. I like their Sopranos cast picture that is signed by all too!

Yeah, I want that ball and would have no prob with dropping a G on it. Hell I would probably pay that for Ruth and Gehrig alone, let alone the whole team!

[groton]

I figured as much and agree completely. Giant ripoff but damn cool stuff. I like their Sopranos cast picture that is signed by all too!

Yeah, I want that ball and would have no prob with dropping a G on it. Hell I would probably pay that for Ruth and Gehrig alone, let alone the whole team!
yah I mean that place not in a casino but in a normal mall they would not get what they get for the stuff

[Lcsulla]

yah I mean that place not in a casino but in a normal mall they would not get what they get for the stuff

It is always so damn tempting when you win at the tables though! That's their MO, get the drunk people with extra cash. Nice model actually but I could be fall down drunk and still laugh at their prices! :lol

[groton]

It is always so damn tempting when you win at the tables though! That's their MO, get the drunk people with extra cash. Nice model actually but I could be fall down drunk and still laugh at their prices! :lol

yah me also
those some of the chain stores there prices are not that bad

I go there alot of times just to window shop and walk around or Walk around and Eat

[Lcsulla]

yah me also
those some of the chain stores there prices are not that bad

I go there alot of times just to window shop and walk around or Walk around and Eat

Me too on the window shopping, however if I was a millionaire I would buy a ton of stuff from there.

I go up there some time just to spend a hundred bucks on the slots, win or lose, and get those free drinks and I use my points for a room and get loaded! That place is much more fun than Foxwoods IMO. :)

2 hours and 45 minutes to beat myself up about paying for that Joe, Ted, Mickey picture! :shrug

[thebestauntie]

So I actually bought something with a Sox logo on it. Nice autographed picture of Ted Williams. I feel like a traitor but could not resist! :shrug
Well in your defense (and you've got to know how hard that is for me to say) I'd pick up something similar if it was like Mickey Mantle or Whitey Ford, or Roger Maris, or Thurman Munson or someone like that. :thumbsup

[Lcsulla]

Well in your defense (and you've got to know how hard that is for me to say) I'd pick up something similar if it was like Mickey Mantle or Whitey Ford, or Roger Maris, or Thurman Munson or someone like that. :thumbsup

Okay, I respect you about ten times more now and that is saying a lot since your a Sox fan! :)

I respect you intellectually and as a genuinely good person. Only one on your list I cannot seem to get an autograph from is Maris and I would love that but they are rare because he was so shy. My list of autographs is amazing to me. From Williams, to Mantle, to Joe D. to Gretzky!

Not to mention every Yankee involved in the most recent championship years from 1996 to 1998 and a few before they won that first title (Mattingly being the best example). Also a few who came on after the last title including Matsui, A-Rod, Shefifeld and of course Aaron Boone; who was not associated with a championship but was still the key player in a VERY dramatic moment!

Eventually I want a set of autographs from every Yankee HOFer and I am well on my way! Only problem signatures I will have to win a lotto to grab are Ruth and Gehrig unless my uncle bites and sells the ball to be at a decent price- family discount so to speak! :)

Also, I broke down and bought the DiMaggio, Williams, and Mantle framed and autographed (by all three) and authenticated picture! Cannot wait to see this! Just couldn't resist even if it ended up costing me $337 with shipping - I doubt you can get all three of those guys autographs on one picture for much less than that! I am psyched and eagerly awaiting hanging this one! :)

[thebestauntie]

Okay, I respect you about ten times more now and that is saying a lot since your a Sox fan! :)

I respect you intellectually and as a genuinely good person. Only one on your list I cannot seem to get an autograph from is Maris and I would love that but they are rare because he was so shy. My list of autographs is amazing to me. From Williams, to Mantle, to Joe D. to Gretzky!

Not to mention every Yankee involved in the most recent championship years from 1996 to 1998 and a few before they won that first title (Mattingly being the best example). Also a few who came on after the last title including Matsui, A-Rod, Shefifeld and of course Aaron Boone(:devil ); who was not associated with a championship but was still the key player in a VERY dramatic moment!

Eventually I want a set of autographs from every Yankee HOFer and I am well on my way! Only problem signatures I will have to win a lotto to grab are Ruth and Gehrig unless my uncle bites and sells the ball to be at a decent price- family discount so to speak! :)

Also, I broke down and bought the DiMaggio, Williams, and Mantle framed and autographed (by all three) and authenticated picture! Cannot wait to see this! Just couldn't resist even if it ended up costing me $337 with shipping - I doubt you can get all three of those guys autographs on one picture for much less than that! I am psyched and eagerly awaiting hanging this one! :)
Well thank you very much for the compliment Jamie! As a true fan one should appreciate the greatness of any player, whether they are from the dreaded rival or not. And I am a sports fan. Granted with baseball I only really follow the Red Sox (and of course the Yankees), but I still believe in the purity of sport, and those guys of old were some of the last vestages we have of the true purity of the sport. It's a lot harder these days with all the scandals involving roids, and off field antics, etc.

I (thankfully) do not have the money to start a collection of autographs of the greats! So now that you will have two autographed photos of Ted Williams, then one would make a great gift to a new friend :D . I did actually get to see Ted Williams once. Back in the early 90's he finally allowed the Jimmy Fund to do tribute night to him. It was held at the Wang Center and I got to go! It was really incredible. I remember Stephen King, Dom Dimaggio, Carl Yazstremski, and a few others getting up and talking about him. He was clearly uncomfortable with all the allocalades! But he took it in stride and was very gracious. That is one of the most memorable evenings of my life and I'm very blessed to have had the opportunity to see that. I didn't get to meet him, but it was still a great event.

And Roger Maris, I just found out that he wasn't in the Hall of Fame. How can that be!? I had always just assumed that he was in there, what the heck is that all about? Even if he never put up big numbers for the rest of his career, breaking that record he deserves at least a special place in there or something! I've never been to Cooperstown, one of these days I'm going to take a trip out there.

[groton]

yah I was lucky to see Ted A couple Times Both times it was in San Diego.
at Padres Games.

[SoRight24]

If we lose this division, I'm done with life.

:BANG

[groton]

travis don't think that way dude
we wont lose the Division if we do I'll be right next to you

[dowling25]

wake just dominates the rays, i feel so comfortable everytime he pitches against them. we need to sweep them with the yankees playing a tough team like the angels.

[dowling25]

another good win. lester gives up so many runs though. i can't believe his record is 2-0 it should be like 2-4. but still i can't complain about a win!

[thebestauntie]

Doesn't matter Ryan, just so long as they keep winning, and the Yankees keep losing!! :monkey:monkey

[ProudestAnt]

Heading out now to watch Buchholz pitch. Can't wait to watch him pwn some n00bs tonight...

[dowling25]

i love watching the red sox own the white sox because of their gay ass announcers.

i always watch the game on mute though when they play. but then turn it up loud when the red sox score. because the silence is priceless.

[dowling25]

wow 4 game sweep. i was at alpine this weekend so i didn't know who won or lost. get back and see it is now 8 games. wow. what a much better feeling then 4 games.

now they better go and own the yanks and put them in the grave for the wild card and east.

[templeofdmb]

CAN'T WAIT for the series starting tonight!

[groton]

Yes I cant Wait
ether the Yankee fans at work will be loud or nice and silent i hope its silent

[Ascf33]

We suck.

[templeofdmb]

Yes I cant Wait
ether the Yankee fans at work will be loud or nice and silent i hope its silent
I know what you mean Greg. I hate the mouth running!

[ProudestAnt]

I think the Yanks take 2 of 3 in this series...

[SoRight24]

I think the Yanks take 2 of 3 in this series...

And too bad we'll still take the division. ;) :thumbsup

[ProudestAnt]

And too bad we'll still take the division. ;) :thumbsup I agree, I just don't see this series going too well for us...

[SoRight24]

I agree, I just don't see this series going too well for us...

The Yanks are due for a good series.

[SoRight24]

Youk with the clutch HR!

Bye bye Farnsworth. Nicely done buddy. :lol

[Lcsulla]

Right now only. Farnsworth for your infield tarp - straight up. Any takers?

[GavMan33]

Right now only. Farnsworth for your infield tarp - straight up. Any takers?

:lol :lol We'll even pay his $6 million for you, just take him off our hands!

[SoRight24]

Ehhh, came up just a little bit short.

I'm glad this division wasn't at 3 or 4 games when this series started.

Although if it were, I think we'd see a totally different series.

[GavMan33]

Ehhh, came up just a little bit short.

I'm glad this division wasn't at 3 or 4 games when this series started.

Although if it were, I think we'd see a totally different series.

I think I can agree with that. Nobody has been in shouting distance of Boston in the AL East basically all season, so I kind of think they've been lulled to sleep a bit. Coming into this series, the Red Sox had absolutely no pressure, while the Yanks came in basically having to win all three to keep any hopes of the division alive.

[Lcsulla]

:lol :lol We'll even pay his $6 million for you, just take him off our hands!

Yeah, only condition is they have to pitch him in every 8th inning against us, including any potential playoff games! :lol

[templeofdmb]

Ok so i missed the discussion (tv was muted) about why Youk was called out when a-rod tried to tag him. He was safe at first but later called out and then Tito got tossed. What the hell happened?

[dowling25]

wow that sucks toget swept. the race could of been over if they would of won one or two games in my opinoin. now its back to 5 and they have to play well again cause the bats weren't doing shit this whole series.

[GavMan33]

Ok so i missed the discussion (tv was muted) about why Youk was called out when a-rod tried to tag him. He was safe at first but later called out and then Tito got tossed. What the hell happened?

I was in the car on my way home from class listening on the radio when this happened, but I did see the play on the Yankee postgame show. Youkilis was on 2nd when a ground ball got hit to ARod at 3rd. He went for a tag on Youkilis, and then threw to 1st to get the "double play." But the 3rd base umpire ruled ARod missed the tag. This is because Youkilis ran out of the base path, and actually ran several steps along the infield grass, which is an automatic out. Well Torre came out to have a discussion, and the umps huddled. Then they reversed the call, and Youkilis went crazy. I think Boston knew that Youkilis should've been called out, but Francona went out to make the point that they should get the call right the first time. I agree with what Tito did.

[templeofdmb]

I was in the car on my way home from class listening on the radio when this happened, but I did see the play on the Yankee postgame show. Youkilis was on 2nd when a ground ball got hit to ARod at 3rd. He went for a tag on Youkilis, and then threw to 1st to get the "double play." But the 3rd base umpire ruled ARod missed the tag. This is because Youkilis ran out of the base path, and actually ran several steps along the infield grass, which is an automatic out. Well Torre came out to have a discussion, and the umps huddled. Then they reversed the call, and Youkilis went crazy. I think Boston knew that Youkilis should've been called out, but Francona went out to make the point that they should get the call right the first time. I agree with what Tito did.
Thank you!

[junior94]

I've got a question for the Red Sox Faithful here. Now me being from Philadelphia originally my main allegiance has always & will always be to the Phillies, and I lived in LA for 5 years leaving me still with some love for the Dodgers, but for several years now my sort of surrogate favorite team for the AL, if you will, has been unequivocally the Red Sox. The 2004 postseason, I was as enthusiastically into following all that about as close as I'd imagine I could be for anything short of the Phils being in the same place (plus one of my very dearest best friends is a Boston native, so that helps).

And as such, I was stunned and hurt when Johnny Judas Damon actually went and signed with the Yankees (& not that it matters, but he did once say that he'd "never" become a Yankee at one point, yea?). I was so disappointed by this, and wished so badly I could've been there in Boston at the start of that one year so I could've booed him as loudly as possibly in his new pinstripes.

I just happened to be wondering, now a couple years removed from the initial departure, do Boston fans still really give him a hard time, if not outright loathing him and practically wishing him death? Because frankly everytime I'm watching ESPN or something and come across Yankee highlights and I see him, I wind up scoffing at the screen and shaking my head, I wanna give him the finger for defecting. And shit like I said, I'm just from Philly. It just got me curious what the "forgiveness" factor is at this point in the heart of your city after this much time passed, if at all.

[ProudestAnt]

I've got a question for the Red Sox Faithful here. Now me being from Philadelphia originally my main allegiance has always & will always be to the Phillies, and I lived in LA for 5 years leaving me still with some love for the Dodgers, but for several years now my sort of surrogate favorite team for the AL, if you will, has been unequivocally the Red Sox. The 2004 postseason, I was as enthusiastically into following all that about as close as I'd imagine I could be for anything short of the Phils being in the same place (plus one of my very dearest best friends is a Boston native, so that helps).

And as such, I was stunned and hurt when Johnny Judas Damon actually went and signed with the Yankees (& not that it matters, but he did once say that he'd "never" become a Yankee at one point, yea?). I was so disappointed by this, and wished so badly I could've been there in Boston at the start of that one year so I could've booed him as loudly as possibly in his new pinstripes.

I just happened to be wondering, now a couple years removed from the initial departure, do Boston fans still really give him a hard time, if not outright loathing him and practically wishing him death? Because frankly everytime I'm watching ESPN or something and come across Yankee highlights and I see him, I wind up scoffing at the screen and shaking my head, I wanna give him the finger for defecting. And shit like I said, I'm just from Philly. It just got me curious what the "forgiveness" factor is at this point in the heart of your city after this much time passed, if at all. I have better things to do with my time than worry about another athlete out to make a couple extra bucks. Baseball is a business, and I understand that he made a business decision. I have no hard feelings towards him at all. I root for the laundry, not the players in the laundry...

[templeofdmb]

I've got a question for the Red Sox Faithful here. Now me being from Philadelphia originally my main allegiance has always & will always be to the Phillies, and I lived in LA for 5 years leaving me still with some love for the Dodgers, but for several years now my sort of surrogate favorite team for the AL, if you will, has been unequivocally the Red Sox. The 2004 postseason, I was as enthusiastically into following all that about as close as I'd imagine I could be for anything short of the Phils being in the same place (plus one of my very dearest best friends is a Boston native, so that helps).

And as such, I was stunned and hurt when Johnny Judas Damon actually went and signed with the Yankees (& not that it matters, but he did once say that he'd "never" become a Yankee at one point, yea?). I was so disappointed by this, and wished so badly I could've been there in Boston at the start of that one year so I could've booed him as loudly as possibly in his new pinstripes.

I just happened to be wondering, now a couple years removed from the initial departure, do Boston fans still really give him a hard time, if not outright loathing him and practically wishing him death? Because frankly everytime I'm watching ESPN or something and come across Yankee highlights and I see him, I wind up scoffing at the screen and shaking my head, I wanna give him the finger for defecting. And shit like I said, I'm just from Philly. It just got me curious what the "forgiveness" factor is at this point in the heart of your city after this much time passed, if at all.
After this series, absolutely NOT. :mad I still get a bad taste in my mouth everytime I see him in the pinstripes.

[templeofdmb]

I have better things to do with my time than worry about another athlete out to make a couple extra bucks. Baseball is a business, and I understand that he made a business decision. I have no hard feelings towards him at all. I root for the laundry, not the players in the laundry...
:lol :lol :lol This is great! but I'm still pissed at Damon. :twak

[ProudestAnt]

:lol :lol :lol This is great! but I'm still pissed at Damon. :twak Why? How did it affect you at all?

[templeofdmb]

it didn't. I'm just being bitter. It's stupid I know, since I love Coco but it just surprised me is all.

[smeritt]

Whats your thoughts on the Joba high pitches? Honestly as a pitcher in high school you either hit a guy or you knock him down. Joba has had pinpoint accuracy, there is no reason he would throw well OVER his head twice. I just don't see it. It didn't prove anything. Now if it was neear his chin at 98 that's different. But as a pitcher if you don't hit him or knock him down it makes no sense. Not to mention there really was no reason for it. But what are your thoughts?

[templeofdmb]

i don't think he was throwing at him because if he was then that is just incredibly stupid.

[GavMan33]

I've got a question for the Red Sox Faithful here. Now me being from Philadelphia originally my main allegiance has always & will always be to the Phillies, and I lived in LA for 5 years leaving me still with some love for the Dodgers, but for several years now my sort of surrogate favorite team for the AL, if you will, has been unequivocally the Red Sox. The 2004 postseason, I was as enthusiastically into following all that about as close as I'd imagine I could be for anything short of the Phils being in the same place (plus one of my very dearest best friends is a Boston native, so that helps).

And as such, I was stunned and hurt when Johnny Judas Damon actually went and signed with the Yankees (& not that it matters, but he did once say that he'd "never" become a Yankee at one point, yea?). I was so disappointed by this, and wished so badly I could've been there in Boston at the start of that one year so I could've booed him as loudly as possibly in his new pinstripes.

I just happened to be wondering, now a couple years removed from the initial departure, do Boston fans still really give him a hard time, if not outright loathing him and practically wishing him death? Because frankly everytime I'm watching ESPN or something and come across Yankee highlights and I see him, I wind up scoffing at the screen and shaking my head, I wanna give him the finger for defecting. And shit like I said, I'm just from Philly. It just got me curious what the "forgiveness" factor is at this point in the heart of your city after this much time passed, if at all.

Boston fan I cannot take seriously.

I have better things to do with my time than worry about another athlete out to make a couple extra bucks. Baseball is a business, and I understand that he made a business decision. I have no hard feelings towards him at all. I root for the laundry, not the players in the laundry...

Boston fan who I can respect.

[thebestauntie]

I have better things to do with my time than worry about another athlete out to make a couple extra bucks. Baseball is a business, and I understand that he made a business decision. I have no hard feelings towards him at all. I root for the laundry, not the players in the laundry...
It's a little harder for me because I grew up in the era where players either finished out their career with one team, or did not end up at the rivals team! That being said, I also think the rivalry is half the fun, and part of the fun is being "upset" with someone for defecting! Does it affect my life? No, but does it affect how I watch a baseball game, yes! Because it's adds to the intensity of the game. Heck I still remember when the Sox let Fiske go and he ended up in a White Sox uniform, that was hard! But he was never booed because it wasn't the Yankees that he ended up playing for. So for me, it just adds to the fun of the game, but I don't take it seriously.

[ProudestAnt]

It's a little harder for me because I grew up in the era where players either finished out their career with one team, or did not end up at the rivals team! That being said, I also think the rivalry is half the fun, and part of the fun is being "upset" with someone for defecting! Does it affect my life? No, but does it affect how I watch a baseball game, yes! Because it's adds to the intensity of the game. Heck I still remember when the Sox let Fiske go and he ended up in a White Sox uniform, that was hard! But he was never booed because it wasn't the Yankees that he ended up playing for. So for me, it just adds to the fun of the game, but I don't take it seriously. I understand that, but that was also an era of athletes not making the kind of money they make today. Baseball has become a business, which it wasn't back then, and with that, they have sacrificed the "home-town discount" that is rarely seen these days...

[ProudestAnt]

Whats your thoughts on the Joba high pitches? Honestly as a pitcher in high school you either hit a guy or you knock him down. Joba has had pinpoint accuracy, there is no reason he would throw well OVER his head twice. I just don't see it. It didn't prove anything. Now if it was neear his chin at 98 that's different. But as a pitcher if you don't hit him or knock him down it makes no sense. Not to mention there really was no reason for it. But what are your thoughts? A 21-year old kid? No way he was throwing at Youk. If it's Rocket out there, maybe hes throwing at him to make a point. But there's no way that a kid in his first stint in the majors is going to intentially throw at a guy...

[smeritt]

A 21-year old kid? No way he was throwing at Youk. If it's Rocket out there, maybe hes throwing at him to make a point. But there's no way that a kid in his first stint in the majors is going to intentially throw at a guy...
thank you sir

[GavMan33]

No harm no foul tonight ladies and gentlemen. You take your beatdown, we'll take ours. Let's do it right starting tomorrow....

[GavMan33]

No harm no foul tonight ladies and gentlemen. You take your beatdown, we'll take ours. Let's do it right starting tomorrow....

So forgive me for speaking too early. Now the lead is down to 9-6 Baltimore. You won't be hearing from me the rest of the night.

*walks out the door feeling like an asshole* :BANG

[thebestauntie]

I understand that, but that was also an era of athletes not making the kind of money they make today. Baseball has become a business, which it wasn't back then, and with that, they have sacrificed the "home-town discount" that is rarely seen these days...
I've witnessed the progression into that and I am adjusting to it (not so well though - I still miss Nomar). I keep thinking that I need to start liking the # on the uniform and not the person in it! Or just not become so attached, I'll keep you posted on how that's going.;) And I do know it's a business and getting paid is important.:)

[dowling25]

well now that thte yanks won the sox have to take care of business. hopefully bucholtz pitches well again tonight.

[thebestauntie]

Holy Crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DavefaninNZ]

well now that thte yanks won the sox have to take care of business. hopefully bucholtz pitches well again tonight.

Yeah, he didn't do too bad tonight. ;)

[dowling25]

Yeah, he didn't do too bad tonight. ;)


[:lol] [:lol]


i love it. i think it was all me that got him that no no

that was incredible to watch. he was so amazing tonight. only a few scares with the line drive in the 9th and then when pedroia made that incredible play.

i am so excited right now. i need some more boston fans around me to enjoy this moment!

[smeritt]

I think your rook did a littttttlllllleeee better than ours lol

[dowling25]

ha ha ha yeah maybe just a little!

[DavefaninNZ]

[:lol] [:lol]


i love it. i think it was all me that got him that no no

that was incredible to watch. he was so amazing tonight. only a few scares with the line drive in the 9th and then when pedroia made that incredible play.

i am so excited right now. i need some more boston fans around me to enjoy this moment!

I listened to this online here in New Zealand. With 2 outs in the ninth, i found that MLB.TV was showing it for free, so i switched over, which used the same window as my audio. That cut out my audio, and the window played a 30 second commerical before it loaded the video. By the time it started up, Buchholz had struck out Markakis. I missed it.:BANG:BANG:BANG

[thebestauntie]

I think your rook did a littttttlllllleeee better than ours lol
:lol :lol

I missed most of the game. I got home and saw Youklis hit the 3 run homer, then I jumped in the shower, got out and they kept showing Buchholz sitting alone on the bench and I couldn't figure out why! I can't wait to watch the replay of the game later on NESN.

[thebestauntie]

I listened to this online here in New Zealand. With 2 outs in the ninth, i found that MLB.TV was showing it for free, so i switched over, which used the same window as my audio. That cut out my audio, and the window played a 30 second commerical before it loaded the video. By the time it started up, Buchholz had struck out Markakis. I missed it.:BANG:BANG:BANG
That at least I did see! I sat here holding my breath for the 9th!

[dowling25]

I listened to this online here in New Zealand. With 2 outs in the ninth, i found that MLB.TV was showing it for free, so i switched over, which used the same window as my audio. That cut out my audio, and the window played a 30 second commerical before it loaded the video. By the time it started up, Buchholz had struck out Markakis. I missed it.:BANG:BANG:BANG

ha ha thats too bad. actually now that i think about it i would probably be at school right now but since its the labor day weekend i was able to come home where we get the nesn channel and i decided to not go out tonight so i was able to watch the entire game.

i am pretty lucky when i th ink about it.

[DavefaninNZ]

ha ha thats too bad. actually now that i think about it i would probably be at school right now but since its the labor day weekend i was able to come home where we get the nesn channel and i decided to not go out tonight so i was able to watch the entire game.

i am pretty lucky when i th ink about it.

Yep, its pretty special to be a part of this. In only his second major league start too. Incredible. :monkey

[templeofdmb]

UNFUCKING REAL!!!!!!! way to go rook!

[smm16]

I was at the game - got home a little while ago. Incredibly amazing. Thrilled I was there to see it. The crowd was absolutely electric the last few innings. Unbelievable night.

[ProudestAnt]

My boy Clay...

[thebestauntie]

My boy Clay...
I was thinking of you last night! Good call on Clay! :thumbsup

[ProudestAnt]

I was thinking of you last night! Good call on Clay! :thumbsup :thumbsup

[dowling25]

i think dice-k is starting to get tired by the long season, i know he got the win but he made it much more interesting then he should have.

[smeritt]

The offense has bailed him out of a bunch of games this year. He could be under five hundred.

[GavMan33]

The offense has bailed him out of a bunch of games this year. He could be under five hundred.

Agreed, but he's also lost plenty of 2-1 games, 3-2, 1-0, etc. His record I'd say is pretty legit.

Meanwhile, how about your Red Sox? A week ago, they were starting a series, and winning even 1 out of the 3 would in effect put the Yankees in the coffin for the AL East. After last Thursday, it was 4 games. Now, 4 days later, it's back to 7, with 7 games less than there were last Tuesday. I'd say losing 3 straight at Yankee Stadium ended up meaning nothing to your division hopes, just a small bump in the road....

[thebestauntie]

Agreed, but he's also lost plenty of 2-1 games, 3-2, 1-0, etc. His record I'd say is pretty legit.

Meanwhile, how about your Red Sox? A week ago, they were starting a series, and winning even 1 out of the 3 would in effect put the Yankees in the coffin for the AL East. After last Thursday, it was 4 games. Now, 4 days later, it's back to 7, with 7 games less than there were last Tuesday. I'd say losing 3 straight at Yankee Stadium ended up meaning nothing to your division hopes, just a small bump in the road....
Honestly, I wasn't too worried about those 3 loses to the Yanks. It certainly makes it interesting for the later series against your Yankees! Of course, I won't really feel "safe" until the Red Sox are up by 7 and there's 6 games left to play. :lol I do wish they would take Tavarez out of the lineup, but then after yesterday's game with Dice-K "keeping it interesting" maybe we need to keep Tavarez in the rotation. I dunno. It's too bad Beckett is pitching against Halliday tonight, I'm not too hopeful for the Sox beating Halliday!

[thebestauntie]

It's too bad Beckett is pitching against Halliday tonight, I'm not too hopeful for the Sox beating Halliday!
I LOVE being wrong!! :evil :multi

[dowling25]

sick game last night. i am glad they finally won a one run game!

[dowling25]

i love winning the close games. and now beckett has league leading wins.

i hope gagne is ready to come back. i think we need him more then ever with okajima getting fatigued or whatever.

[smeritt]

Really? Because it felt like he gave up runs every single appearance as a Red Sock

[BellybuttonKid]

Really? Because it felt like he gave up runs every single appearance as a Red Sock


He had a small bump in the road. Sort of like Rivera has every year.

Good pitchers like Gagne get out of it, and he has gotten out of it.


Dice-K's record IS legit by the way. He is no more over rated than Wang is.

[smeritt]

He had a small bump in the road. Sort of like Rivera has every year.

Good pitchers like Gagne get out of it, and he has gotten out of it.


Dice-K's record IS legit by the way. He is no more over rated than Wang is.
Please explain how exactly a pitcher who has had two straight seasons of 18 wins is overrated?

[GOB_]

and now beckett has league leading wins.



You mean he's tied for the league lead in wins. :)

[BellybuttonKid]

Please explain how exactly a pitcher who has had two straight seasons of 18 wins is overrated?

You can be a good pitcher and be over rated.

I'm not knocking Wang, but he does have the Yankee offense behind him.

Matsuzaka has been through a rough patch lately, but there is nothing indicating that he won't get back on track. He was lights out for a while this year. To say he isn't very good is an ignorant statement who one would expect to come only from a Yankee fan who doesn't even know how the playoff system works.

[smeritt]

Your right because I ever said he was no good. I said he was over rated same as you about Wang. Problem is Dice-K is 14-12 with a 4.44 ERA and 23 home runs given up. The most on the Red Sox staff. Not to mention the 70 BB's the most on the staff. I simply said based on this year he was not worth the amount of money it took to get him. Now mind you I also pointed out the fact of the wasted money by the Yankees. But your right I am an ignorant Yankee fan. No one came in here picking a fight simply talking baseball and then you go throw insults. People like you make Red Sox fans look like douche bags which is why I don't normally come in here. I garuntee you many people don't know the exact science to the playoff system. Doesn't mean I don't know baseball. Based on this year Dice-K has not been worth it. With the Red Sox line up( which is just as potent as the Yanks) he shouldn't be 14-12. But I'm ignorant what do I know

[smeritt]

O and i'll take my 18-6 record and 3.69 ERA and go be overrated......

[BellybuttonKid]

I have read through some of the baseball threads and seen you say Matsuzaka isn't very good.

I also saw where you said Josh Beckett won't be very good. 18 wins later and probably the Cy Young award winner that statement proves to be stupid.

Next year, when Matsuzaka has a mid 3 ERA and 18 or so wins, we'll have this same conversation.

Dice-K is in his FIRST YEAR in the states. Wang wasn't anything special in his first year here. I agree that so far, he hasn't lived up to his hype, but to say he is over rated and not very good this short into his career is retarded.

[BellybuttonKid]

O and i'll take my 18-6 record and 3.69 ERA and go be overrated......

To me, Wang is a solid pitcher. He is an innings eater. But, in my opinion, wins and losses don't tell the complete story with a pitcher. Wang strikes out virtually no one, and gives up more than a hit per inning. I just don't think he is the type of pitcher who will ever win a Cy Young award.

Just my opinion.

[smeritt]

I've also said I felt like an idiot for saying Beckett wasn't very good. I admitted I was wrong. Good try.

I've also never said Matsuzaka wasn't very good. You quote me and I'll beleive you.

Wang in 05 his first year came onto a team struggling desparately and stabilized a dying rotation to help make the playoffs with an 8-5 record in 18 games. He didn't exactly have a full first year. Now his fulllll first year as a starter which would be last year when he was 19-6 with a 3.63 ERA and a Cy Young contender.So your argument has no bearing. He helped the Yankees make the playoffs inm his first year coming in half way.

Dice-K was talked up like he was going to win the Cy Young in his first year. To me he has been a bust. Everyone talked about how he could pitch so many innings and he looks tired.

Again, I'm ignorant so I'm probably wrong.

[smeritt]

To me, Wang is a solid pitcher. He is an innings eater. But, in my opinion, wins and losses don't tell the complete story with a pitcher. Wang strikes out virtually no one, and gives up more than a hit per inning. I just don't think he is the type of pitcher who will ever win a Cy Young award.

Just my opinion.
Odds are he wont win a Cy Young. And your right he isn't a strike out pitcher. You don't have to be a strike out pitcher to be dominant. He is a groundball pitcher. Your going to give up hits as a contact pitcher because groundballs find holes. Not everyone is a strike out pitcher. But even so not being a strike out pitcher in two and a half years he has compile 44 wins. Not half bad I'd say....

[BellybuttonKid]

No need to get attitude. I never said Wang wasn't good. I am just simply throwing it out there because you seem to think Matsuzaka won't be good. You said Wang's first full year was a success, and I agree. But why does he get a pass in his first year? To me, this year is Matsuzaka getting used to everything. Next year will be the year he starts to be a bit more consistent.

But I think it's unfair to only compare Wang's "first full year" to Matsuzaka's first year because Wang still had a partial year under his belt where he had already gotten used to things.

In a couple years, Matsuzaka will be the better pitcher....

[BellybuttonKid]

And I never said you have to be a strikeout pitcher to be good.

[smeritt]

No attitude was given. I would say even Wang's half year was more successful than Matsuzakas. He was a rookie and stabilized that team along with lightening in a bottle Aaron Small and fluke award runner up Shawn Chacon.

[crashintome202]

Odds are he wont win a Cy Young. And your right he isn't a strike out pitcher. You don't have to be a strike out pitcher to be dominant. He is a groundball pitcher. Your going to give up hits as a contact pitcher because groundballs find holes. Not everyone is a strike out pitcher. But even so not being a strike out pitcher in two and a half years he has compile 44 wins. Not half bad I'd say....
name some dominant pitchers outside of wang that dont strike guys out?

[BellybuttonKid]

name some dominant pitchers outside of wang that dont strike guys out?

I wouldn't call Wang dominant. And to answer your question, there really aren't any.


Anyways, let's get back on track. This is a Red Sox thread.

Sorry guys.

[smeritt]

We were talking about the Red Sox? Dice K ?

[GavMan33]

Wow. There's some wreckage going on in here isn't there? :lol

[thebestauntie]

that's okay, we don't need to talk about tonights game anyway. Continue...

[smeritt]

Lol. Did you see the catch-throw double play by Coco though. Even he was confused.

[thebestauntie]

Lol. Did you see the catch-throw double play by Coco though. Even he was confused.
YES! The highlight of the game! Well, Schil did pitch pretty good tonight too. But hell yeah, that's was something! Youk falling down was funny too. :lol

[smeritt]

They showed the replay and Crisp was kinda like uhhhh did i just do that?

[dowling25]

dang i hate when the sox lose close games

eithe way what happened with crisp?

[smeritt]

Top of the 9th Delmon Young on first and Brendan Harris hits a bomb to deep center field, Coco of course gets to the ball, jumps against the chain fence on the garage, composes himself and throws out Young at first.

[thebestauntie]

Thank God they won last night, but a couple of those runs would have been nice the night before. :ugh

[groton]

yes super happy we won last night.
i am so worried we might still pull a 78 and the way i've been lately that would really send me into a tailspin

[dowling25]

ha ha ha well lester isn't helping the cause. giving up 4 fuckin runs to the devil rays. what is up with that. well the red sox can still come back based off last night, and its only the first inning.

[thebestauntie]

!!!!DAVID ORTIZ FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!
:multi :multi :multi :multi :multi :multi :multi :multi

[smeritt]

That ball could have been caught.....

[thebestauntie]

That ball could have been caught.....
But it wasn't, and that's what counts baby!!!! :D

[dowling25]

But it wasn't, and that's what counts baby!!!! :D


thats exactly right. thats the red sox baby! BIG PAPI IS THE MAN

i was playing football with some of my friends and got back and was so happy to see this!

[dowling25]

well let's see how dice-k does tonight. see if he can turn it around in an important game.

[thehoss]

4 hours and 42 minutes, good lord. Once ya'll get manny back, and papi has some protection, you'll be ready for october.

[dowling25]

wow its not just because its the yankees. but i can't believe they gave up that lead. i am so pissed right now. i would be just as pissed if it was anyone else i think because of the 5 run lead. they better win one of these games or else i will be furious.


o and manny needs to be ready to go its been like 3 weeks.

[smeritt]

Someone call Ryan lol .....

[thebestauntie]

Someone call Ryan lol .....
Yeah, no kidding! I'm a little worried about him now. :lol

[groton]

Thats It Were Not Even Making The Playoffs :(

[ProudestAnt]

Thats It Were Not Even Making The Playoffs :( Yeah, you're right. We're 4.5 up on a team that is 4 up in the wildcard. We'd have to lose out not to make the playoffs.


I hate life right now, really I do...

[justinandimcool]

Yeah, you're right. We're 4.5 up on a team that is 4 up in the wildcard. We'd have to lose out not to make the playoffs.


I hate life right now, really I do...

Same here, but for different reasons, sheesh life isn't all about the Red Sox man.












Motherfucking Padres, I fucking hate you and your ugly fucking jerseys. Fuck you all. Forget me going to UC-SD. Hell no.

[thebestauntie]

Yeah, you're right. We're 4.5 up on a team that is 4 up in the wildcard. We'd have to lose out not to make the playoffs.


I hate life right now, really I do...
I just want to know if your kitchen is still free of knives and sharp objects...

[groton]

Yeah, you're right. We're 4.5 up on a team that is 4 up in the wildcard. We'd have to lose out not to make the playoffs.


I hate life right now, really I do...

dude were going lose out
I fear I was born the year after 78 and all year I've felt like this would be my 78

[groton]

Same here, but for different reasons, sheesh life isn't all about the Red Sox man.












Motherfucking Padres, I fucking hate you and your ugly fucking jerseys. Fuck you all. Forget me going to UC-SD. Hell no.

The Padre's Rock MOFO them and my New Fav NL Team teh CUBS my only hope now I fear

[justinandimcool]

The Padre's Rock MOFO them and my New Fav NL Team teh CUBS my only hope now I fear

I hate you.

[ProudestAnt]

dude were going lose out Do you have any idea what the odds of that are? You're sick in the head.

I fear I was born the year after 78 and all year I've felt like this would be my 78 :lorraine I've been saying that since June, welcome...

[groton]

Do you have any idea what the odds of that are? You're sick in the head.

:lorraine I've been saying that since June, welcome...

I'm a Sox Fan dude
do they grow any Sicker in the head
and my NL Team since i lived in San Diego I root for the Padre's they never done anything but lose two WS"s

and This year i really been rooting for the cubs for somereason

[thebestauntie]

dude were going lose out
I fear I was born the year after 78 and all year I've felt like this would be my 78

:lorraine I've been saying that since June, welcome...
At least neither of you is old enough to remember 1978!!!!:lorraine

[ProudestAnt]

I'm a Sox Fan dude
do they grow any Sicker in the head
and my NL Team since i lived in San Diego I root for the Padre's they never done anything but lose two WS"s

and This year i really been rooting for the cubs for somereason Even a Sox fan can't believe that they will lose out...

[groton]

Even a Sox fan can't believe that they will lose out...
after tonight i can dude

[ProudestAnt]

after tonight i can dude Ok, whatever man...:rolleyes

[dm(b)]

dude were going lose out
I fear I was born the year after 78 and all year I've felt like this would be my 78
:ugh

[TempHelpNeeded]

They will be fine. They are taking tomorrow's game for sure. This was disappointing to see our two best out of the bullpen get rocked. But we will fight another day.


Playoff mentality will hit and the boys will know what to expect and prepare for. :)


[/optimistic]


fuck.

[rickyh24]

so how bout them sox?

[Lcsulla]

This was pretty funny in todays Daily News:



In a bizarre set of circumstances, I got a "save" from Red Sox closer Jonathan Papelbon yesterday.

I hailed a taxi to take me to Fenway Park and happened to notice a cellphone lying on the seat next to me.

"Excuse me," I said to the cabbie, "But I think your previous passenger left his cellphone here."

"Oh my God!" he exclaimed. "He a ballplayer!"

"A ballplayer?" I said. "Was he with the Yankees?"

"No, no, he with the Red Sox," he replied.

"Did you get his name?"

"It was a long, funny name," he said, "beginning with a 'P.'"

"Papelbon?" I said.

"Yeah, yeah, That's him."

"Don't worry," I said. "I'm a sportswriter. I can get the phone back to him."

When I got to Fenway, the clubhouses weren't open yet so I headed up to the press box. As I was setting up my laptop, Papelbon's phone rang.

"Hello," I said, "Is that you, Jon?"

"Yeah," said the voice on the other end, "Who's this?"

"This is Bill Madden," I said, "with the Daily News in New York. I've got your phone as you can see. You left it in the cab that I took the ballpark."

"No way?" Papelbon said. "What a relief. I can't thank you enough."

"No problem," I said. "Just give me credit for a save."

[thebestauntie]

This was pretty funny in todays Daily News:
Maybe that's why Pap blew the game on Friday, he gave away his "save". :shrug :lol

[groton]

Dang Gave his Save away to a Daily News Reporter

[Lcsulla]

Had to have made him feel great though when he heard it was a writer who had it; even a Yankee one. Thinking you lost your phone is an awful feeling, probably worse for him given that there were probably o ther players numbers in there. That feeling of relief when someone tells you they have it and will get it to you is great.

[thebestauntie]

Had to have made him feel great though when he heard it was a writer who had it; even a Yankee one. Thinking you lost your phone is an awful feeling, probably worse for him given that there were probably o ther players numbers in there. That feeling of relief when someone tells you they have it and will get it to you is great.
Yes that's true. And it was very good of the sports writer to let Pap know that he had it. I still would have preferred though that he lost his cell phone and saved the game Friday night! :BANG

[Lcsulla]

I wouldn't worry much about Papelbon, I'd be more concerned about Okijima. Take it from someone who has watched a lights out closer for ten plus years - they have occasional bad days and they are not superhuman. Tough to bring a closer in with the tying run in the box, no one out, and facing the middle of one of the most lethal lineups in baseball. That is a tough order for anyone. I was surprised at how hard they hit him though, Jeter's single was a defensive swing but Abreu crushed that ball and Alex waited and hit a bullet up the middle. Chalk it up to a bad situation and bad night for him to be up in the zone.

[thebestauntie]

I wouldn't worry much about Papelbon, I'd be more concerned about Okijima. Take it from someone who has watched a lights out closer for ten plus years - they have occasional bad days and they are not superhuman. Tough to bring a closer in with the tying run in the box, no one out, and facing the middle of one of the most lethal lineups in baseball. That is a tough order for anyone. I was surprised at how hard they hit him though, Jeter's single was a defensive swing but Abreu crushed that ball and Alex waited and hit a bullet up the middle. Chalk it up to a bad situation and bad night for him to be up in the zone.
I'm not worried about Papelbon, I definately chalk it up to a bad day. Everyone get 'em. But I was surprised too with how hard they hit off him on Friday, that just goes to show what an off day he was having! I am more concerned with Okijima. He was looking down right scared on Friday night, and he hasn't been the same in the second half of the season. Who know's what's going on with him. :shrug

[Lcsulla]

I think Hideki is just overworked, Yanks have slapped him around good in his last two outings against them. Not sure what his Japan high was but he is approaching 70 innings and that can take a toll on a setup guy. Better hope Gagne keeps pitching well or that bridge to Papelbon is treacherous! Luckily you are in a position to rest him up for the playoffs, a luxury no one but the Angels have right now.

Any concerns about Paps arm after last September?

[thebestauntie]

I think Hideki is just overworked, Yanks have slapped him around good in his last two outings against them. Not sure what his Japan high was but he is approaching 70 innings and that can take a toll on a setup guy. Better hope Gagne keeps pitching well or that bridge to Papelbon is treacherous! Luckily you are in a position to rest him up for the playoffs, a luxury no one but the Angels have right now.

Any concerns about Paps arm after last September?
:confused I don't know what you are referring to, I wasn't paying that much attention last September.

[groton]

:confused I don't know what you are referring to, I wasn't paying that much attention last September.
.
No Jamie Non at all
He got Tired last year and injured it a bit
thats why they wanted him to start this year

[thebestauntie]

.
No Jamie Non at all
He got Tired last year and injured it a bit
thats why they wanted him to start this year
Yeah, I don't really see that as a factor this year. I think he's still going strong. Just a bad day on Friday is all.

Thanks Greg! :)

[ProudestAnt]

.
No Jamie None at all because I don't know what I'm talking about
He got Tired last year and injured it a bit, at least that's what I heard from my friends.
thats why they wanted him to start this year, because it makes total sense for a young kid with a shoulder problem to throw 200+ innings

Fixed it for you. And yes, I'm very concerned about the condition of his shoulder. They convinced him to close to relieve the stress on his shoulder. I'm not sure he can carry the load of a 45-50 close per season guy. I'd much rather see them sign Gagne as a closer for the next few seasons and let Paps work up his arm strength to become a starter in the future...

[Lcsulla]

Interesting, two vastly different interpretations of Papelbon's status. To be honest I would have some concerns right about now.

[dowling25]

i am starting to get nervous. we can't take care of business. blew two leads to yanks. and now losing to the blue jays. yanks are winning and tigers.

AhHH

[groton]

Fixed it for you. And yes, I'm very concerned about the condition of his shoulder. They convinced him to close to relieve the stress on his shoulder. I'm not sure he can carry the load of a 45-50 close per season guy. I'd much rather see them sign Gagne as a closer for the next few seasons and let Paps work up his arm strength to become a starter in the future...

Interesting, two vastly different interpretations of Papelbon's status. To be honest I would have some concerns right about now.


Jamie They thought starting might help since he would have Four Days before Pitching
Where If your a closer you have to be Ready to go everygame

Really he has done good this year and there is no real worry

[ProudestAnt]

Jamie They thought starting might help since he would have Four Days before Pitching
Where If your a closer you have to be Ready to go everygame

Really he has done good this year and there is no real worry You're so completely off-base, it's comical...

[groton]

You're so completely off-base, it's comical...

dude That is what he Told WEEI Back in Spring Training.
so You really think you know shit but you don't dude
your like a loser at work who think he knows all about the Sox but he realy does not

I bet you think DIce K sucks and are Bullpen is shit also ?

[SoRight24]

Frank fucking Thomas.

:BANG

[ProudestAnt]

dude That is what he Told WEEI Back in Spring Training.
so You really think you know shit but you don't dude
your like a loser at work who think he knows all about the Sox but he realy does not

I bet you think DIce K sucks and are Bullpen is shit also ? Have you heard of the phrase "political front-office jargon"? That's all it was. Think about it. Closer compared to starter is the difference between throwing 80 innings a year and 200+ innings a year. Regardless of rest, being a starter is much more stressful on a shoulder. Use your head...

[groton]

Have you heard of the phrase "political front-office jargon"? That's all it was. Think about it. Closer compared to starter is the difference between throwing 80 innings a year and 200+ innings a year. Regardless of rest, being a starter is much more stressful on a shoulder. Use your head...

um no it is not dude
Innings is not the stress part
The Warming up and having to be ready to go everyday is stressful also

but we both know that nether of us will agree since were both stubborn New Englanders

[Lcsulla]

Okay, sorry I asked! :lol

Anyhow, does Wakefield make your postseason rotation if he has another bad outing?

Lester/Burnett tonight. Good chance for the Yanks to get it down to 2.5; makes saturdays game loom even larger. Plus, I want to see how close to the edge we can get you Sox fans for the next two weeks! :)

[groton]

Okay, sorry I asked! :lol

Anyhow, does Wakefield make your postseason rotation if he has another bad outing?

Lester/Burnett tonight. Good chance for the Yanks to get it down to 2.5; makes Saturdays game loom even larger. Plus, I want to see how close to the edge we can get you Sox fans for the next two weeks! :)

I really don't know on wake and Jamie I've been on the edge for so long its not funny and really Dude
There is alot of Sox vs Sox Violence right now happening in Redsox Nation since you have a group like me who is trying to say positive then you have the Negative Nancy's

The Negatives call my type Pink Hats even when we been fans along as they been fans

[thebestauntie]

Okay, sorry I asked! :lol

Anyhow, does Wakefield make your postseason rotation if he has another bad outing?

Lester/Burnett tonight. Good chance for the Yanks to get it down to 2.5; makes saturdays game loom even larger. Plus, I want to see how close to the edge we can get you Sox fans for the next two weeks! :)
Who let you in here anyway? :p

[smeritt]

Gagne needs to figure his shit out

[GWDMB]

Bringing Eric Gagne into a 1 run game in the 8th inning is practically the same as saying "please beat us, we want you to win".

[dowling25]

god why does the red sox bullpen love blowing leads. or even the whole red sox team love blowing leads after like the 7th inning. its so fucking gay when they play well all night and then gagne comes in gets two quick outs. then out of no where he gives up 3 walks and 2 hits. i am so pissed off right now that they can't close out games anymore.