Boston Red Sox

[rickyh24]

I'm glad I decided not too watch games for a while. Just looking at the scores is frustrating the hell out of me.

[scoobycc]

poop

[scoobycc]

If I were Francona, I would have bitch slapped Hansen right on the mound in front of the entire stadium.

[rickyh24]

hey look the bullpen blew a game....weird.....

[dowling25]

Ha ha...time for the Red Sox to call up Buccholz and move either him or Masterson to the bullpen to hopefully get some stuff done. Instead of blowing every close game anymore.

[rickyh24]

I really don't understand why Buccholz is not up yet. I mean they obviously need pitching.

[DMBtheStoned]

You guys just got swept by the Rays. Again.

[thebestauntie]

You guys just got swept by the Rays. Again.
I don't like you anymore Nick. :mad (:hug)

[DMBtheStoned]

I don't like you anymore Nick. :mad (:hug)

Hehehe. It's all in good fun LA!

[rickyh24]

Fuck this team......get some damn pitching......I hate you Curt Schilling enjoy your pay check.

[thebestauntie]

Hehehe. It's all in good fun LA!
I know, ;) hence the :hug

Hey, I get to meet you in a little over a week, did you know that?

[rickyh24]

I guess the Indians are starting to shop around Sabathia.....go get him Theo.

[specialkd24]

I was at all 3 games this week (what a waste of my money).

First off, Rays fans are the RUDEST I've ever met and I've been to lots of stadiums. They were mean, hostile and threatening. They'd yell stuff at the Sox fans, curse, etc. during and after each game. I realize they have never been good, but at least act like you have some class. I can understand Yankees fans talking smack, they have all the championships. But Rays fans? They have the #1 pick (for being the worst team) every year.

The Trop is a hell-hole too. Indoor baseball is just stupid. I'll never go back to that stadium and those unbelievable fans.

And Rays fans, if you don't like the 15-18,000 fans chanting "Let's Go Sox" then maybe you should find some fans and actually get them to your games. It is pathetic you are in first place but it takes Boston to get a sell out at your place.

Finally tonight's game. The reason we lost was Terry's mis-management of the bullpen. I would have started Dice-K one more inning; if he gets in trouble then you pull him. But the pen sucks, and going to it so early, I knew we were in trouble. Then Okajima is great and he pulls him after one inning - cost us the game. They should have left him in for another. Declarman had already pitched the previous night and we all know Hansen is turning into a version of last year's Gagne.

But with the bases loaded in the 7th, he should have brought in Papelbon. You can't always save your closer for the 9th, b/c tonight's game showed that the game might not even get there. He should have brought him in during the 7th, pitched the 7th and 8th and gone to someone else in the 9th. HORRIBLE job Tito.

We need to trade for some bullpen help, or we'll flame out in the second half. Hopefully Clay and Colon return maybe then we can put Masterson in the bullpen.

Also, Tek is KILLING us. He can't even put the ball in play. I wish we could pull a softball rule and make him a DFO and not let him back. He'll be below the Mendoza line by the end of the Yankee series. I think they need to sit him for a week or so and let him get his mind back into it.

Manny too was horrible. The Tampa fans were merciless, and he didn't do anything to quiet them up.

[DavefaninNZ]

But with the bases loaded in the 7th, he should have brought in Papelbon. You can't always save your closer for the 9th, b/c tonight's game showed that the game might not even get there. He should have brought him in during the 7th, pitched the 7th and 8th and gone to someone else in the 9th. HORRIBLE job Tito.

What's the point of bringing Paps in early? He might've secured the lead, but who then are you going to go to in the 9th? Timlin? Delcarmen? With the way the bullpen is, surely someone else would've blown it then. If Paps was a four-inning-a-night guy, the sox would be sweet.

[dowling25]

Tilmlin is on the DL. I don't feel comfortable with any of our bullpen guys in there in any inning. Delcarmen was pitching so well too. I don't know what happened.

[scrock25]

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[thebestauntie]

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
What the heck is so darned funny? :mad:mad

[ProudestAnt]

Tilmlin is on the DL. I don't feel comfortable with any of our bullpen guys in there in any inning. Delcarmen was pitching so well too. I don't know what happened. He's not on the DL, he's down in AAA, I watched him pitch in Rochester last weekend...

[ProudestAnt]

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol You should laugh now while you can, you have a very pissed off Sox team with something to prove coming to your house tonight...

[ProudestAnt]

What's the point of bringing Paps in early? He might've secured the lead, but who then are you going to go to in the 9th? Timlin? Delcarmen? With the way the bullpen is, surely someone else would've blown it then. If Paps was a four-inning-a-night guy, the sox would be sweet. Doesn't matter. In a situation like that, you bring in a guy you KNOW is going to shut the door, break the other team's back and hope someone else in your pen can finish things off. This whole "closer can only pitch in the 9th" philosophy is bullshit. He's the best pitcher in your pen, you bring him in when you need him the most, not just in the 9th...

[DMBtheStoned]

I was at all 3 games this week (what a waste of my money).

First off, Rays fans are the RUDEST I've ever met and I've been to lots of stadiums. They were mean, hostile and threatening. They'd yell stuff at the Sox fans, curse, etc. during and after each game. I realize they have never been good, but at least act like you have some class. I can understand Yankees fans talking smack, they have all the championships. But Rays fans? They have the #1 pick (for being the worst team) every year.

The Trop is a hell-hole too. Indoor baseball is just stupid. I'll never go back to that stadium and those unbelievable fans.

And Rays fans, if you don't like the 15-18,000 fans chanting "Let's Go Sox" then maybe you should find some fans and actually get them to your games. It is pathetic you are in first place but it takes Boston to get a sell out at your place.
.

:lorraine :lorraine :lorraine Nice cheap shots there buddy. I think you're full of shit and mad your team just got swept by the Rays..

[rickyh24]

The Trop is a shit hole. You don't even have to be there to realize that.

[Lcsulla]

Never thought Drew would be carrying you guys into this series in the Bronx. Manny is human after all and your pen looks like ours now that people are figuring Okijima out.

[DMBtheStoned]

The Trop is a shit hole. You don't even have to be there to realize that.

How many times you been there Ricky? It's not the best stadium but it's def not the worst. Whatever, 1st place!

[rickyh24]

How many times you been there Ricky? It's not the best stadium but it's def not the worst. Whatever, 1st place!

None. Look at the field. My front lawn looks nicer. Seriously.

[DMBtheStoned]

None. Look at the field. My front lawn looks nicer. Seriously.

I really have no rebuttal to this except................FIRST PLACE! :bounce

[UCFish]

How many times you been there Ricky? It's not the best stadium but it's def not the worst. Whatever, 1st place!

I have been there 3 times. It is pretty bad. It just looks fake.

[DMBtheStoned]

I have been there 3 times. It is pretty bad. It just looks fake.

True but it is in a dome. Oh well. The Rays should be moving into a new stadium in the next couple years.

[thebestauntie]

How many times you been there Ricky? It's not the best stadium but it's def not the worst. Whatever, 1st place!

I really have no rebuttal to this except................FIRST PLACE! :bounce
That's going to get old, fast. :violent

:lol

[DMBtheStoned]

That's going to get old, fast. :violent

:lol


:lol I learned that from the Boston and NY fans!

[thebestauntie]

:lol I learned that from the Boston and NY fans!
I miss the days when I could pwn you as a fan.

:teardrops

[DMBtheStoned]

I miss the days when I could pwn you as a fan.

:teardrops

Ya I'm gonna enjoy it as long as I can. Cubs and Rays in first place...who would have thought it! :lol

[thebestauntie]

Ya I'm gonna enjoy it as long as I can. Cubs and Rays in first place...who would have thought it! :lol
I don't blame you one bit, I'd so be doing the same thing!! :D

[scoobycc]

Cannot afford to lose this series.

I hope Giambi gets beaned right in the mustache.

[rickyh24]

Giambi has a mustache??? I cant wait to see this.

[crashintome202]

^it makes him have super human hitting ability... for now. can't wait to go to the game on saturday

[DavefaninNZ]

Doesn't matter. In a situation like that, you bring in a guy you KNOW is going to shut the door, break the other team's back and hope someone else in your pen can finish things off. This whole "closer can only pitch in the 9th" philosophy is bullshit. He's the best pitcher in your pen, you bring him in when you need him the most, not just in the 9th...

I disagree. The sox tried the whole "closer by committee" thing a few years back and failed miserably. Of course they didn't have a Papelbon in the pen, but they did abandon the philosophy in mid-season. The players apparently wanted stability in knowing when they were going to be called on.

I ask again, what's the point of bringing in your closer in the seventh to prevent a lead, only to have someone blow it in the ninth? It leaves the team vulnerable at the end of the game. Im more of the thinking that your closer should be able to come in early and get those four, five or six out saves if necessary.

I think that if the bullpen has 3 or 4 surefire guys, then the closer by committee would work. Clearly though, the sox don't have that, and they desperately need bullpen help.

[specialkd24]

What's the point of bringing Paps in early? He might've secured the lead, but who then are you going to go to in the 9th? Timlin? Delcarmen? With the way the bullpen is, surely someone else would've blown it then. If Paps was a four-inning-a-night guy, the sox would be sweet.

The point is you use your closer when the game is on the line. Managers nowadays pigeon-hole the closer to the 9th. Sometimes (Wed. was an example) the game is won or lost in the 7th inning. You bring your best pitcher out and kill the rally. That is what a closer does.

I've rather Pap pitch the 7th (and maybe the 8th) and get out of the jam, and then roll the dice on someone else in the 9th (against different Tampa hitters).

Closers are too good and make too much money to not pitch in different situations, in my opinion.

[specialkd24]

:lorraine :lorraine :lorraine Nice cheap shots there buddy. I think you're full of shit and mad your team just got swept by the Rays..

Where were the cheap shots? Tell me what I said that wasn't true.

As I told the smart-asses that were yapping at me after the game, it doesn't matter who is in 1st place in July 1 ... talk some smack in September.

[specialkd24]

:lol I learned that from the Boston and NY fans!

I think maybe you learned WORLD CHAMPIONS from NY and Boston fans.

Your team is good, no doubt. But putting down the World Champions is not how you go about it when your team is winning. Learn how to win classy, b/c as I saw this week, there are no classy Tampa fans.

Be happy your team is in first, but smack talk to the Red Sox and our fans is only going to come back and bite you in the ass (karma).

[specialkd24]

CG SHO by Lester. That is more like it. And Tek actually got a hit!

We sweep the Yanks and I'll feel a little better about losing in Tampa (who is a much better team than NY).

[DavefaninNZ]

The point is you use your closer when the game is on the line. Managers nowadays pigeon-hole the closer to the 9th. Sometimes (Wed. was an example) the game is won or lost in the 7th inning. You bring your best pitcher out and kill the rally. That is what a closer does.

I've rather Pap pitch the 7th (and maybe the 8th) and get out of the jam, and then roll the dice on someone else in the 9th (against different Tampa hitters).

Closers are too good and make too much money to not pitch in different situations, in my opinion.

But either way it's a gamble. You can choose to use the closer in the 7th, and gamble that the lead isn't lost later, or you can gamble by not bringing him in in the 7th and hope that the lead isn't lost then.

However, say you spend your closer in the 7th and the lead is then lost in the 9th. The lineup will only have three outs to make up that difference. If the lead is lost in the 7th, the lineup will have 9 outs to make up that difference.

Im not saying there is only one way to manage bullpens. I just think that with the way the sox bullpen is now, it is too much of a gamble to have paps hold the lead that early in the game.

[ProudestAnt]

I disagree. The sox tried the whole "closer by committee" thing a few years back and failed miserably. Of course they didn't have a Papelbon in the pen, but they did abandon the philosophy in mid-season. The players apparently wanted stability in knowing when they were going to be called on.

I ask again, what's the point of bringing in your closer in the seventh to prevent a lead, only to have someone blow it in the ninth? It leaves the team vulnerable at the end of the game. Im more of the thinking that your closer should be able to come in early and get those four, five or six out saves if necessary.

I think that if the bullpen has 3 or 4 surefire guys, then the closer by committee would work. Clearly though, the sox don't have that, and they desperately need bullpen help. What good is it to have one of the best closers in the game if you can't get into the 9th with a lead? Jesus, how is this difficult to understand?

[specialkd24]

I see both sides, and there have been some good arguments made.

Here is my point again. I don't think it should be used a lot (bringing the closer in early) but every once and awhile I think it is a good decision. Paps hasn't pitched in a week now. Waiting to get the game to him proved to be a bad decision (as did only pitching Okajima 1 inning). I think when you are in grave trouble (bases loaded, no outs) you take the chance there and hope for something later. The odds that the Rays would have loaded the bases again, were slim, IMO.

Either way, I think Tito needs to think about it for the future.

[specialkd24]

Varitek is trying to play himself out of a contract extension I think. He should NOT be batting with the game on the line. I'd rather see Kevin Cash up there.

11 of his last 16 games have been 0-for's.

[ProudestAnt]

I see both sides, and there have been some good arguments made.

Here is my point again. I don't think it should be used a lot (bringing the closer in early) but every once and awhile I think it is a good decision. Paps hasn't pitched in a week now. Waiting to get the game to him proved to be a bad decision (as did only pitching Okajima 1 inning). I think when you are in grave trouble (bases loaded, no outs) you take the chance there and hope for something later. The odds that the Rays would have loaded the bases again, were slim, IMO.

Either way, I think Tito needs to think about it for the future. No, your point supports mine. The odds you'll get in that jam again are so slim, you bring in your best guy to shut the door, don't take any chances...

[thebestauntie]

I hate A-Rod. :violent

[specialkd24]

Theo needs to earn his money and make some magic this month. This team - as is - won't even make the playoffs. I don't have a good feeling about Big Papi either, so we need a big bat and some relief pitching. A big bat that was a utility player (and could catch) would be sweet, but I think that is asking too much.

[crashintome202]

man papelbon sucks :)

[FunkyTeaParty]

I am not trying to be a punk, but why did Francona take out Wakefield?

I was at the game and I was delighted when I saw him walking to the mound.

[thebestauntie]

I am not trying to be a punk, but why did Francona take out Wakefield?

I was at the game and I was delighted when I saw him walking to the mound.
First of all, you are a punk. Secondly I'm not sure, I was wondering the same thing myself. :shrug

[jmudmbphan]

papelbon sucks. ha-ha.

[thebestauntie]

papelbon sucks. ha-ha.
Oh, go away! :p

[clang2]

might be going to a game next weekend babyyyy

wo hoo

[dowling25]

At least we beat the Twins. I was with a Twin fan tonight who is really really uncool.

I am only saying that in hopes that you read this Tim...

[rickyh24]

Twins are playing well right now. Hopefully we can stop that.

[rickyh24]

Buchholz is coming back up to start and they are sending Masterson down to AAA so he can be converted into a reliever. Great move if you ask me that should pay off in a month or so. The piece of shit bullpen can use a nice young arm right about now.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3477015

[dowling25]

Yeah hopefully Masterson is able to carry over his success as a starter to reliever. And another big thing is if Buccholz can actually pitch well.

Good win last night. Okajima finally did it...although it was ugly. And Dice-K pitched past the 5th!

[specialkd24]

Big win tonight. Nice comeback, something they hadn't been doing the last few weeks. And Manny got another big hit. Hopefully the slump is over.

And Tampa lost, although it was to NY. Hard to root for a team in that game, but at least we are getting closer to 1st place again.

[dowling25]

I'd much rather have Tampa lose and the Yanks win...just as long as the Red Sox win the same day they play.

THat was exciting to watch! First time in a while I have been able to stand up and cheer when the Sox play.

[scrock25]

I'd much rather have Tampa lose and the Yanks win...just as long as the Red Sox win the same day they play.

THat was exciting to watch! First time in a while I have been able to stand up and cheer when the Sox play.

I'd much rather have this stupid thread deleted. :D

[thebestauntie]

I'd much rather have this stupid thread deleted. :D
No one asked you idiot. :p

[scrock25]

No one asked you idiot. :p

Oh bugger off.

[thebestauntie]

Oh bugger off.
Excuse me? This is the Red Sox thread in case you missed it. I think I have every right to be in here pissing off Yankee fans.

[jmudmbphan]

you're a woman..you dont have rights.

[thebestauntie]

you're a woman..you dont have rights.
:violent:twenty4:twak

[Crush086]

Good news Boston.

The Yankees are in real good position to win this game against the Rays...

Edit: They just did. Bobby Abreu hit a run-scoring double.

[thebestauntie]

Yay, the Rays lost! :multi:multi

And on a side note, the Sox are beating up the Twins right now.

[dowling25]

ha ha this was too good today at work I sit by two friends of mine who love the twins. Getting up all the time to tell him the updated score was so fun!

[smeritt]

So no Sox fans are worried about Beckett? Giving up 5 runs to the thin hitting Twinkies?

[dowling25]

It'll happen...he also had been only giving up 2 runs in his past 3-4 starts. I'll let it slide this time since there were 18 runs of support!

[jmudmbphan]

beckett is not as good as he was last year.

[rickyh24]

^ http://somecallmeduh.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/captainobvious.jpg

[jmudmbphan]

^ to the rescue

[rickyh24]

:lol

[scrock25]

the red sox are in second place.

[rickyh24]

The Yankees are in third

[Crush086]

The Orioles are in fourth.

[thebestauntie]

Is this the monthly meeting of the "Let's state the obvious" group?

[scrock25]

Is this the monthly meeting of the "Let's state the obvious" group?

Obviously.

[rickyh24]

People like me.

[thebestauntie]

Obviously.
Ba da bum

[Crush086]

People like me.
Except Yankee fans.


And btw,

The Blue Jays are in fifth.

[rickyh24]

:lol

[jmudmbphan]

ricky has teh hiv

[rickyh24]

ricky has teh hiv

I want to have sex with your avatar and give it teh hiv. Because I love it.

[thebestauntie]

I see we have moved on to the Mensa gathering.

[jmudmbphan]

yeah we have...what are you doing here?

[thebestauntie]

yeah we have...what are you doing here?
So funny and clever. :p:p

[specialkd24]

1.5 game back now. I admit I was pretty upset about the loss to NY on Sunday, but I feel a little better now.

Tampa sucks away from home.

[rickyh24]

Rays and Yankees both lost. Thats great.

We could be in first by the break if this works out.....

[specialkd24]

1/2 game now.

Hopefully Dice-K brings it tomorrow, Cleveland sweeps Tampa and we go into the break with the lead.

[rickyh24]

very nice

[scoobycc]

5.5 games in a week. Nice

:thumbsup :thumbsup

[specialkd24]

Man I wish I could meet some of those people who were outside The Trop last week who celebrated like the Sox were dead and the Rays had won the World Series.

I told the people it doesn't matter who is on top on July 1. And I know if doesn't matter who is on top at the All-Star Break, but I like where our team is and has been without Papi.

[rickyh24]

but I like where our team is and has been without Papi.

:thumbsup Manny is just getting on track too.

[dowling25]

I went to a cubs game this weekend in Chicago. It was a good feeling when I got home and got on the internet to see the Sox won today and the Rays and Yanks lost. I also found my missing iPod this weekend in a bag. I had been missing it for about 5 months and couldn't believe it either when I found it. Great day overall!

[specialkd24]

Over in the Yankee thread they are talking about a story that A-Rod left the stadium after being removed from the game on Tuesday night. If he did, that is just being a poor sport, IMO.

But here is the question I pose for Sox fans ... Is not getting MLB approval to sign A-Rod the best thing that ever happened to Boston? There is no doubt he is a hell of a player, but he is a "me-first" player and definitely not the team type guy Boston needs. The Yankees sign him and have nothing to show for it except a lot of meaningless HR's and postseason struggles. The Sox don't get him and now have 2 World Championships in that time period.

I just wanted to throw that out there and see what you all thought.

[rickyh24]

Not to mention the guy they got instead turned out to be the World Series MVP...

[DavefaninNZ]

Over in the Yankee thread they are talking about a story that A-Rod left the stadium after being removed from the game on Tuesday night. If he did, that is just being a poor sport, IMO.

But here is the question I pose for Sox fans ... Is not getting MLB approval to sign A-Rod the best thing that ever happened to Boston? There is no doubt he is a hell of a player, but he is a "me-first" player and definitely not the team type guy Boston needs. The Yankees sign him and have nothing to show for it except a lot of meaningless HR's and postseason struggles. The Sox don't get him and now have 2 World Championships in that time period.

I just wanted to throw that out there and see what you all thought.

Although A-rod's numbers would be awesome to have in Boston, I agree. With A-Rod on the team in 2004, the dynamic would have been totally different and there's no way they would've won it, especially down 3-0 againsts the yanks. A-Rod would've mailed it in at that point.

[rickyh24]

but now that i think of it a Lowell, Pedroia, A-Rod, Youk infield would be pretty nasty :lol

[DavefaninNZ]

Here's another question: Would you pull the trigger on the Ramierez/Beckett/Lowell deal again?

On the one hand, Ramierez would be the premier young SS of the league, and Boston wouldn't have it's SS problems that they've been having. On the other hand, you lose a #1 pitcher, and a solid 3rd baseman.

I have to say yes, because without Beckett, and lowell for that matter, they probably wouldn't have won it last year.

[rickyh24]

I would take Hanley back in a second......but that trade got a ring.....so I would never want to go back in time and not make that trade. We needed an ace at the time and Theo went out and got him. We got a huge bonus with Lowell. He was injury plagued before he started with the Sox. He has been nothing short of great since then.

Theo knew what we were giving up. It just had to be done.

[DavefaninNZ]

The other question is would Hanley develop as quickly in boston as he did in florida? He might be a different player if he never left boston.

[rickyh24]

Well he got thrown right into the mix in Florida. I really would have never thought he would have became so good so quick. I always knew he would be this good. I just thought it would take a year or two more.

[ProudestAnt]

If we don't trade Ramirez, we may never have seen Pedroia. They were talking about moving Han-Ram to 2nd so they could have room for Rent-a-Wreck...

[rickyh24]

I heart Pedroia

[ProudestAnt]

I heart Pedroia Wait until you feast your eyes on Lowrie for an extended period of time. Kid's a stud...

[specialkd24]

I'm watching the game and listening to Joe Morgan. Does anyone talk more and not really say anything meaningful?

Two weeks ago he was talking about when we lost to NY that "Boston is 7 games back in the lost column and that will be hard to overcome." It was JULY Joe. A week later we were in first place.

He just babbles and babbles. I could do a better job than him.

[hoefdj18]

A) I can't stand Joe Morgan.
B) Damn you, Howie Kendrick.

[DavefaninNZ]

Well done. Was Papelbon not available?

[jmudmbphan]

someones lurking 3 back now...

[thehoss]

2 in the loss column, which is alot more accurate. im not saying a word, because papi is also lurking. we'll see what happens.

[malarks26]

^ This is true, there's still a lot of season left.

[thebestauntie]

someones lurking 3 back now...
Sox are 1.5 games back and in 2nd place. What are you talking about?

East ................W ...L ...PCT ...GB
Tampa Bay .......57 ...40 0.588 ...-
Boston ............57 ..43 0.57 ....1.5
New York .........53 ...45 0.541 ...4.5
Toronto ...........48 ...50 0.49 .....9.5
Baltimore ..........47 ..50 0.485 ....10

[scrock25]

Sox are 1.5 games back and in 2nd place. What are you talking about?

East ................W ...L ...PCT ...GB
Tampa Bay .......57 ...40 0.588 ...-
Boston ............57 ..43 0.57 ....1.5
New York .........53 ...45 0.541 ...4.5
Toronto ...........48 ...50 0.49 .....9.5
Baltimore ..........47 ..50 0.485 ....10

You miss the point my idiotic bostonian friend (notice I didn't even give the respect of capitalizing the name of the city in which the team you root for resides, that's funny).

Discounting the devils rays (again, no capitalization, and calling them by their real name), because they deserve to be discounted - the Yankees of New York are currently only 3 back of the only other team in the AL East that they need to worry about.

Sunk my ass......suck my ass for that matter.

HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII !!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[thebestauntie]

You miss the point my idiotic bostonian friend (notice I didn't even give the respect of capitalizing the name of the city in which the team you root for resides, that's funny).

Discounting the devils rays (again, no capitalization, and calling them by their real name), because they deserve to be discounted - the Yankees of New York are currently only 3 back of the only other team in the AL East that they need to worry about.

Sunk my ass......suck my ass for that matter.

HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII !!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I see, we (meaning you idiotic yankee fans) aren't looking at the situation as it actually exists, you're looking at how you would like it to be. So we're pretending. Gotcha. :thumbsup


Silly boy. :D

[jmudmbphan]

Sox are 1.5 games back and in 2nd place. What are you talking about?

East ................W ...L ...PCT ...GB
Tampa Bay .......57 ...40 0.588 ...-
Boston ............57 ..43 0.57 ....1.5
New York .........53 ...45 0.541 ...4.5
Toronto ...........48 ...50 0.49 .....9.5
Baltimore ..........47 ..50 0.485 ....10

a couple things..

you guys are leading the wild card..once by 7 games...now by 3..which I said.

second, the rays are pathetic and will fall off eventually. so actually, when the yanks pass the red sox it will be for 1st place in the east..for all intents and purposes.

think before you speak my small minded minion.

[scrock25]

a couple things..

you guys are leading the wild card..once by 7 games...now by 3..which I said.

second, the rays are pathetic and will fall off eventually. so actually, when the yanks pass the red sox it will be for 1st place in the east..for all intents and purposes.

think before you speak my small minded minion.

Well put. Us smart folk understood what you were trying to say.

[thebestauntie]

a couple things..

you guys are leading the wild card..once by 7 games...now by 3..which I said.

second, the rays are pathetic and will fall off eventually. so actually, when the yanks pass the red sox it will be for 1st place in the east..for all intents and purposes.

think before you speak my small minded minion.
Well let's see, you mentioned nothing at all about the Wild Card in your previous post and because I read what is written not what was intended, that is what I responded to.

Secondly, still not in the realm of the reality of the situation, which is that currently the Rays are in first, the Sox are in second and the yanks are in third. Last time I checked no one had an accurate crystal ball, but then again, I live in the real world, not the pretend one.

[jmudmbphan]

Well let's see, you mentioned nothing at all about the Wild Card in your previous post and because I read what is written not what was intended, that is what I responded to.

Secondly, still not in the realm of the reality of the situation, which is that currently the Rays are in first, the Sox are in second and the yanks are in third. Last time I checked no one had an accurate crystal ball, but then again, I live in the real world, not the pretend one.

you made a bad assumption. er...perhaps I made the bad assumption in thinking you would know what the WC standings were.....when I said 3 games, I assumed you knew the yankees were only 3 back of the sox in the wc standings.

what was written was 3 games. your post simply shows you have no idea where the sox are int he wild card standings....and you call yourself a fan...:haha

[thebestauntie]

you made a bad assumption. er...perhaps I made the bad assumption in thinking you would know what the WC standings were.....when I said 3 games, I assumed you knew the yankees were only 3 back of the sox in the wc standings.

what was written was 3 games. your post simply shows you have no idea where the sox are int he wild card standings....and you call yourself a fan...:haha
I do not pay any attention to the Wild Card standings until much later in the year. I set my sights much higher for the Red Sox. Sorry you can't do the same for the yanks.

[jmudmbphan]

you got to pass one bar to get to the next..thats typically how it goes right?

and if i were you, I would be focused on the wild card, bc thats your best shot at the playoffs.

but again, my apologies for actually thinking you following the standings...i dont know what I was thinking.

[thebestauntie]

The goal isn't to win the Wild Card then hope to win the AL East. The goal is to win the AL East. You don't need to 'pass' the wild card standing first. You want to be in first, the Wild Card is the hopes for the 'almost made its'. So, like I said, I don't pay attention to the Wild Card until it's the Red Sox last chance. The first hurdle is to win as many games as possible to be in first place for the division, not first place in the wild card.

[Crush086]

Yikes. The Yankee fans are out in full force in this thread today...

It was a good weekend...

Are there any Sox fans who are at least a little disturbed by this sweep that just occured? With this weekend the standings become a bit more interesting, but then again, you guys did get swept by the best team in the league. I think it would have been unacceptable to be swept by the pitching staffless A's.

The Angels are the first team to 60 wins, and K-Rod will probably shatter the saves record. John Smoltz reached 40 saves fastest at 108 games. K-Rod has matched that feat in 90 games...

[thebestauntie]

It's never good to get swept even if it is by the team with the best record. I'm not liking the Red Sox's inconsistency, that is making me very nervous.

[scrock25]

It's never good to get swept even if it is by the team with the best record. I'm not liking the Red Sox's inconsistency, that is making me very nervous.

And the fact that they can't win on the road?

[Crush086]

It's never good to get swept even if it is by the team with the best record. I'm not liking the Red Sox's inconsistency, that is making me very nervous.
Ah, but the Angels are the best team right now. It should soften the blow a smidge, unless you guys meet in the postseason, but since the Sox aren't making it that far.... :lol

What should make the Sox fans more nervous is the way the Yankees have kicked off the season post ASB on fire, and the Sux have been cold as ice. That could be potential trouble in the long run. A 7.5 game lead is now a 4.5 game lead....



What the hell? It smells like fish in here! I'm going to stick my finger in this person's food when I find them...

[jmudmbphan]

it smells like fish in here because LA won't get out of the thread already...ew...

[Crush086]

it smells like fish in here because LA won't get out of the thread already...ew...
I think some would argue that we're in the wrong thread...

But the fish smell is gone. Coincidence?

[thebestauntie]

And the fact that they can't win on the road?
Oh yeah, that too. :shrug
Ah, but the Angels are the best team right now. It should soften the blow a smidge, unless you guys meet in the postseason, but since the Sox aren't making it that far.... :lol

What should make the Sox fans more nervous is the way the Yankees have kicked off the season post ASB on fire, and the Sux have been cold as ice. That could be potential trouble in the long run. A 7.5 game lead is now a 4.5 game lead....


What the hell? It smells like fish in here! I'm going to stick my finger in this person's food when I find them...
The Yankees did the same thing last year, I'm not at all surprised. I expect them to continue to heat up. :(
it smells like fish in here because LA won't get out of the thread already...ew...
Oh shut up you! :p

[thebestauntie]

I think some would argue that we're in the wrong thread...

But the fish smell is gone. Coincidence?
You guys are soooooooooooooooo funny!! :twak:lol

[Crush086]

You guys are soooooooooooooooo funny!! :twak:lol
What, you didn't think I was going to invade the thread and be completely civil, did you?

I think you would have hit home more if you would've put a couple more o's at the end of so...

[thebestauntie]

What, you didn't think I was going to invade the thread and be completely civil, did you?

I think you would have hit home more if you would've put a couple more o's at the end of so...
:lol:lol:lol:lol

I love you guys! :lol:lol

[scrock25]

:lol:lol:lol:lol

I love you guys! :lol:lol

And uh..........we hate you.

[thebestauntie]

And uh..........we hate you.
I know. :D That only makes it even more special. ;)

[scrock25]

Way to kick a team when they're down, er....I mean win one!!!!!!!!!!

[thebestauntie]

Way to kick a team when they're down, er....I mean win one!!!!!!!!!!
Oh for crying out loud!! :mad:mad

[scrock25]

I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!!!!! :D

[thebestauntie]

I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!!!!! :D
Yay? :confused






:lol:lol:hug

[Crush086]

I hate Seattle. They play their night games so late, so I had to wait to see the bad news this morning.

I like seeing the Yankees win, but I hate seeing see the Sux and Rays win too...

[LaDude]

From SI.com

Manny Ramirez's on-again, off-again relationship with Boston management seems like it's off again. Speculation in Boston is if Matt Holliday becomes available the Red Sox might let Ramirez walk and take a run at Holliday. Ramirez, 36, is represented by Scott Boras, who thinks Manny can play until he's 40, and will likely seek a four-year contract for his client, should Boston not bring him back.

I'd like to see Holliday in a Sox uniform!

[thebestauntie]

From SI.com

Manny Ramirez's on-again, off-again relationship with Boston management seems like it's off again. Speculation in Boston is if Matt Holliday becomes available the Red Sox might let Ramirez walk and take a run at Holliday. Ramirez, 36, is represented by Scott Boras, who thinks Manny can play until he's 40, and will likely seek a four-year contract for his client, should Boston not bring him back.

I'd like to see Holliday in a Sox uniform!
That has been my dream since the first time I saw him pitch! God I would love that.

[jmudmbphan]

manny is going to be a yankee

[thebestauntie]

manny is going to be a yankee
He'll fit right in.

[jmudmbphan]

as in successful? yes.

[thebestauntie]

as in successful? yes.
Just like Johnny Damon

[Crush086]

That has been my dream since the first time I saw him pitch! God I would love that.
Isn't he an outfielder for the Rockies? I think you may have him confused with Roy Halladay for the Jays...
manny is going to be a yankee
That joke was funny, even in the Red Sox thread...

[thebestauntie]

Isn't he an outfielder for the Rockies? I think you may have him confused with Roy Halladay for the Jays...

That joke was funny, even in the Red Sox thread...
Ah, dammit, yup that's who I was thinking of! Crap, what a dopey head. :freak

[Crush086]

Ah, dammit, yup that's who I was thinking of! Crap, what a dopey head. :freak
Don't worry, if you were anything but a Red Sox fan, the error would be inexcusable.

BUT, I expect this from a Sox fan, so it's all good. ;)



Edit: Sorry, that one was too easy...

[thebestauntie]

Don't worry, if you were anything but a Red Sox fan, the error would be inexcusable.

BUT, I expect this from a Sox fan, so it's all good. ;)



Edit: Sorry, that one was too easy...
No problem, I deserved it. :) :thumbsup :BANG

[jmudmbphan]

Just like Johnny Damon


is it me or is he hitting .320 this season...and about 60 points better than your leadoff man?


edit: not just me, he is.

[thebestauntie]

is it me or is he hitting .320 this season...and about 60 points better than your leadoff man?


edit: not just me, he is.
Oh so he's finally earning his paycheck after what 3 years? Way to go Johnny!

[jmudmbphan]

hit .280 his first year with 80 rbis...if i recall, better than your lead off man that year too.......

secod yaer he was dinged up...oh well...hes still hitting .320 now.

[Crush086]

hit .280 his first year with 80 rbis...if i recall, better than your lead off man that year too.......

secod yaer he was dinged up...oh well...hes still hitting .320 now.
Unfortunately though, he still throws like my 12 year old niece.

[Tomato42]

who likes my avitar?

[Crush086]

who likes my avitar?
It's retarded.

Who would burn a hat?

Oh wait, Red Sox thread... Most likely a Red Sox fan...

Nevermind, I put 2 and 2 together. :thumbsup

[Tomato42]

It's retarded.

Who would burn a hat?

Oh wait, Red Sox thread... Most likely a Red Sox fan...

Nevermind, I put 2 and 2 together. :thumbsup

what else would you do with a yankees hat, wear it lol?

[Crush086]

what else would you do with a yankees hat, wear it lol?
Hey, maybe you're not as bad as other Sox fans. It looks like you're catching on! :rolleyes

[thebestauntie]

who likes my avitar?
I'm diggin it. ;)

[dowling25]

Did anyone else watch the game and see again how worthless Craig Hansen is?

[specialkd24]

Jacoby Ellsubry > Johnny Damon.

Yeah Damon is hitting .315 but throws like my Grandma. Would you rather have the fastest man in baseball who is 10 years younger than Damon or someone in Damon who makes a lot of money and will be gone sooner than later?

[specialkd24]

Also the Sox are back in first place. As I referenced on Sunday, I guess Joe Morgan's proclamation that the Sox were in trouble about 3 weeks ago, was right on. *shakes head*

[jmudmbphan]

Jacoby Ellsubry > Johnny Damon.

Yeah Damon is hitting .315 but throws like my Grandma. Would you rather have the fastest man in baseball who is 10 years younger than Damon or someone in Damon who makes a lot of money and will be gone sooner than later?


1. elsbury is not the fastest man in baseball. hes not even the fastest man in the al east..thatd be justin christian.

2. Id rather have a lead off guy hitting .315 than a lead off guy hitting in the .260's.

3. Obviously you would take younger player, that goes without saying. However, if Elsbury is as good as you say he is, hell be making "a lot of money" too someday not to far off. So yes, long term Id rather elsbury. This season and next season Id rather the better player, Johnny Damon.

[specialkd24]

1. elsbury is not the fastest man in baseball. hes not even the fastest man in the al east..thatd be justin christian.

2. Id rather have a lead off guy hitting .315 than a lead off guy hitting in the .260's.

3. Obviously you would take younger player, that goes without saying. However, if Elsbury is as good as you say he is, hell be making "a lot of money" too someday not to far off. So yes, long term Id rather elsbury. This season and next season Id rather the better player, Johnny Damon.

If he isn't the fastest, he is one of the top 3. Who else is faster (maybe Jose Reyes). Seriously. Have you really watched him play? If he is at first and the ball hits the outfield he is at third. In the playoffs last year the way he ran the bases as a rookie, I was so impressed with his speed and acceleration.

And of course the Yankees want the older player ... that is why you are in the situation you have been the last 5 years and why the Sox have 2 World Championships.

[scrock25]

Your username says it all.

[Crush086]

If he isn't the fastest, he is one of the top 3. Who else is faster (maybe Jose Reyes). Seriously. Have you really watched him play? If he is at first and the ball hits the outfield he is at third. In the playoffs last year the way he ran the bases as a rookie, I was so impressed with his speed and acceleration.

And of course the Yankees want the older player ... that is why you are in the situation you have been the last 5 years and why the Sox have 2 World Championships.
See? It's not always Yankees fans that start the championships shit talk...

And there's plenty of fast players in the MLB besides Ellsbury. He's fast, but off the top of my head, I'd say Ichiro, Carlos Gomez, Carl Crawford, Willy Taveras, and Juan Pierre rival his speed.

[thebestauntie]

Monday morning will be interesting around here, that's for sure. :lol

[LaDude]

I can't wait for tonight! Joba / Beckett and the return of Papi!

[scrock25]

I can't wait for tonight! Joba / Beckett and the return of Papi!

Joba will dominate.

[thebestauntie]

Joba will dominate.
in the dugout only.

[scrock25]

in the dugout only.

That's the place Man-Ram will be blowing his teammates whilst he's out with his wittle sore knee.

What a little bitch he is.

Only sure things in life are death, taxes, and Man-Ram complaining about SOMETHING in the second half.

[LaDude]

That's the place Man-Ram will be blowing his teammates whilst he's out with his wittle sore knee.

What a little bitch he is.

Only sure things in life are death, taxes, and Man-Ram complaining about SOMETHING in the second half.

He's in the lineup tonight.

1. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
2. Kevin Youkilis, 1B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Manny Ramirez, LF
5. Mike Lowell, 3B
6. J.D. Drew, RF
7. Jed Lowrie, SS
8. Jason Varitek, C
9. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF

[scrock25]

He's in the lineup tonight.

1. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
2. Kevin Youkilis, 1B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Manny Ramirez, LF
5. Mike Lowell, 3B
6. J.D. Drew, RF
7. Jed Lowrie, SS
8. Jason Varitek, C
9. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF

He's in the initially posted line-up, sure. We'll see what happens come game time.

[jmudmbphan]

If he isn't the fastest, he is one of the top 3. Who else is faster (maybe Jose Reyes). Seriously. Have you really watched him play? If he is at first and the ball hits the outfield he is at third. In the playoffs last year the way he ran the bases as a rookie, I was so impressed with his speed and acceleration.

And of course the Yankees want the older player ... that is why you are in the situation you have been the last 5 years and why the Sox have 2 World Championships.


Yes I've seen him. And I've read the scouting on him. Justin Christian is faster. case closed on that one.

And do you follow baseball? You would see the Yankees aren't out there buying old stars. THey are cultivating their minor league system...which is why its one of the best in baseball. And if you want to talk championships.....26>7. suck that bitch.

[scoobycc]

That's the place Man-Ram will be blowing his teammates whilst he's out with his wittle sore knee.

What a little bitch he is.

Only sure things in life are death, taxes, and Man-Ram complaining about SOMETHING in the second half.

well, he must be doing something right if he has helped his team win 2 world series titles since he's been there.

[scrock25]

well, he must be doing something right if he has helped his team win 2 world series titles since he's been there.

Ok??

[scoobycc]

Ok??

if you didn't understand that, i feel sorry for you

[jmudmbphan]

if you didn't understand that, i feel sorry for you



I dont think he didnt understand it..

It just didn't really have any relevance to what he said..

I feel sorry you couldn't pick that up......

[scrock25]

if you didn't understand that, i feel sorry for you

The fuck did I tell you MANG?

I was right, you were wrong, deal with it!

Edit: I'm drunk right now, so take my comments with a grain of salt.

Edit^2: Man-Ram was not in the line-up.

Edit^3: The fuck did I tell you MANG?

[scrock25]

What a game, amirite?

Edit: drunk.

[thebestauntie]

What a game, amirite?

Edit: drunk.
I hope you get a hangover! :p

[Crush086]

Joba will dominate.

in the dugout only.
Good call on that one. :thumbsup:thumbsup

[thebestauntie]

Good call on that one. :thumbsup:thumbsup
Shut up! :p

[Crush086]

Shut up! :p
Unfortunately I had to keep track of the ticker at work. I didn't get to see his performance.

Hell, I just found out about the ridiculous deal we just made.

[thebestauntie]

Unfortunately I had to keep track of the ticker at work. I didn't get to see his performance.

Hell, I just found out about the ridiculous deal we just made.
I didn't watch the game either, I had a friend over and we were watching something else.

What do you mean "keep track of the ticker"?

[Crush086]

I didn't watch the game either, I had a friend over and we were watching something else.

What do you mean "keep track of the ticker"?
At the bottom of the screen. The news ticker.

You see them on ESPN, Fox News, and CNN and stuff. It's the little bar at the bottom that gives tidbits of information.

I had to watch the Braves/Phillies game at work, so I had to watch the baseball ticker when I got the chance.

[thebestauntie]

At the bottom of the screen. The news ticker.

You see them on ESPN, Fox News, and CNN and stuff. It's the little bar at the bottom that gives tidbits of information.

I had to watch the Braves/Phillies game at work, so I had to watch the baseball ticker when I got the chance.
Oh gotcha. I take it you work in a bar then?

[Crush086]

Oh gotcha. I take it you work in a bar then?
Not quite. A restaurant.... a Ruby Tuesday to be exact.

I only do it part time though (if even that. More like 8 hours a week. Quarter-Time??)

I actually hate doing it too. But my boss man is a pretty cool guy, and it's gas money every week.

[thebestauntie]

Not quite. A restaurant.... a Ruby Tuesday to be exact.

I only do it part time though (if even that. More like 8 hours a week. Quarter-Time??)

I actually hate doing it too. But my boss man is a pretty cool guy, and it's gas money every week.
College student right?

[Crush086]

College student right?
Nope. Got a degree in Computer Networking and Securities.

It's what I'm working on right now. Working on my A+ Certification right now. I want to get that before I move back to North Carolina, shooting for having it before 2009.

Right now I do Data Management for Home Depot's Corporate Office.

Ruby Tuesday on Friday and Saturday. I hate it mostly because I hate working both jobs on Friday. But I like the money.


^ Too much information.... but whatever... :shrug

[thebestauntie]

Nope. Got a degree in Computer Networking and Securities.

It's what I'm working on right now. Working on my A+ Certification right now. I want to get that before I move back to North Carolina, shooting for having it before 2009.

Right now I do Data Management for Home Depot's Corporate Office.

Ruby Tuesday on Friday and Saturday. I hate it mostly because I hate working both jobs on Friday. But I like the money.


^ Too much information.... but whatever... :shrug
No, not too much information because I would have kept asking until I got it all anyway! You saved me some time & effort! :thumbsup :lol

[Lcsulla]

I have the same degree. A+ didn't seem necessary though. Better off with ISC2 (CISSP) or GIAC certifications.

[thebestauntie]

I have the same degree. A+ didn't seem necessary though. Better off with ISC2 or GIAC certifications.
I love it when you talk geek, it's hot. :evil

[Crush086]

I have the same degree. A+ didn't seem necessary though. Better off with ISC2 (CISSP) or GIAC certifications.
I thought about GIAC, but I figured A+ would be a decent start.

Besides, I'm only 22, so I guess I got plenty of time.

But wait, I thought you were a history major? I know you spend a good bit of time in the Poli Sci threads, and you're always educating in there (educating me at least!)

[Lcsulla]

I have a BA and MA in history and a BS in Infosec. History wasn't paying the bills so I put myself through another major for a better job.

You're right, you have plenty of time so do what you need at your pace. I was just trying to offer some advice on which certifications are the most beneficial in the field.

[Crush086]

I have a BA and MA in history and a BS in Infosec. History wasn't paying the bills so I put myself through another major for a better job.

You're right, you have plenty of time so do what you need at your pace. I was just trying to offer some advice on which certifications are the most beneficial in the field.
Hey, I appreciate the advice. :thumbsup

It'll definitely be something I check out after the A+. I just don't want to start mid-way, then drop it for another certification.

[scoobycc]

I dont think he didnt understand it..

It just didn't really have any relevance to what he said..

I feel sorry you couldn't pick that up......

:lol:lol

wwooow

[jmudmbphan]

:lol:lol

wwooow


Ok??

[thehoss]

the last 2 games surprised the hell out of me. lets go ponson!! ?? haha

[jmudmbphan]

god, you guys suck. BEAT. DOWN.

[thebestauntie]

god, you guys suck. BEAT. DOWN.
You suck!

[Crush086]

You suck!
Hey LA, I hope you went to see TDK again instead of this... :lol

After tomorrow night we'll be all tied up for 2nd. Then you guys can start crapping your pants.

[ProudestAnt]

I'm beginning to wonder if there's anything that we HAVE to add before the break to make a viable run at the WS. I'm always going to say a catcher, but other than that, possibly some MR help? I can't really think of anything else we need...

[thehoss]

I'm beginning to wonder if there's anything that we HAVE to add before the break to make a viable run at the WS. I'm always going to say a catcher, but other than that, possibly some MR help? I can't really think of anything else we need...

im always a believer that middle relievers pitch differently in situations. if yesterday was closer, who's to say henson doesnt pitch better. but right now, id go with middle relief and a 100 percent ortiz.

[jmudmbphan]

I'm beginning to wonder if there's anything that we HAVE to add before the break to make a viable run at the WS. I'm always going to say a catcher, but other than that, possibly some MR help? I can't really think of anything else we need...


in all seriousness now...i think you are being a little presumptious....a WS run? Seriously, I think the sox should simply focus on making the playoffs...and feel happy if they only accomplish that goal. Their pitching is pretty bad. I dont see that carrying them very far this year.

[thebestauntie]

Hey LA, I hope you went to see TDK again instead of this... :lol

After tomorrow night we'll be all tied up for 2nd. Then you guys can start crapping your pants.
You suck too! :p

But I went to see TDK early enough that I was able to watch most of the game, but changed it when it got out of control.

But I have hope for tonight!! :):):):)

And you still suck. :lol

[thebestauntie]

in all seriousness now...i think you are being a little presumptious....a WS run? Seriously, I think the sox should simply focus on making the playoffs...and feel happy if they only accomplish that goal. Their pitching is pretty bad. I dont see that carrying them very far this year.
I would say that the playoffs are included in making a WS run. In preparing for the WS you need to prepare for the playoffs, so whatever you think you need for a WS win, you need for playoff wins as well.

[ProudestAnt]

in all seriousness now...i think you are being a little presumptious....a WS run? Seriously, I think the sox should simply focus on making the playoffs...and feel happy if they only accomplish that goal. Their pitching is pretty bad. I dont see that carrying them very far this year. We have the exact team we had last year minus Schilling, but plus a healthy Ortiz (soon) and more experienced Clay, Lester and Masterson. Why do you not see us making a WS run, or have you gone into blind mode because your team is finally worth something?

[ProudestAnt]

im always a believer that middle relievers pitch differently in situations. if yesterday was closer, who's to say henson doesnt pitch better. but right now, id go with middle relief and a 100 percent ortiz. :lol It's Hansen, but I agree with you. I'm not speaking of last night specifically, I'm just looking at our BP as a whole and I'm not happy with the MR. Delcarmen is hit and miss, Timlin is near useless, Hansen is unproven, Masterson is solid, but can't be expected to carry the load and Okie is not fooling anyone anymore. We need a kid like Bowden pulled up to help things out, or at least try something different for Christ's sake...

[Lcsulla]

Gotta give credit where credit is due. Francona is handling this Manny mess with his customary class. The Boston media are vultures, possibly more than NY, and they keep goading him into trashing Manny. The front office seems pretty ticked with Manny. Fans as well seems frustrated. However, Francona is doing all he can do to diffuse tensions. I think he know the rather obvious fact that the team is better off when Manny is in there and doing all he can to keep the man happy. I like Francona, he is the consummate professional, always doing what is best for his team. I applaud him for that.

Also, for what it is worth I don't think Hansen was throwing at A-Rod, he control was awful yesterday, not sure he could have hit ALex if he wanted to.

As for Joba and Youk - I honestly don't know. Given the past between than I can understand Youk's reaction. However, if Joba wanted to hit him tat is about the last spot in a game you want to do that.

Hopefully this is over.

I do however, get a kick at the ire of RSN in regards to this thing. Not like the Sox haven't had a headhunter recently with mango tree boy who seemed to drill people with immunity, mainly Jeter - and a ball at KArim Garcia's head (who I will admit was a scumbag) but still a head ball is a headball even to a jerk.. :)

[dmbdreamingtree]

either way is spices up the rivalry... alex took a shot. national tv may see a very interesting game tonight.

[chr35919]

this game has gotta be rained out, right?

[chr35919]

Gotta give credit where credit is due. Francona is handling this Manny mess with his customary class. The Boston media are vultures, possibly more than NY, and they keep goading him into trashing Manny. The front office seems pretty ticked with Manny. Fans as well seems frustrated. However, Francona is doing all he can do to diffuse tensions. I think he know the rather obvious fact that the team is better off when Manny is in there and doing all he can to keep the man happy. I like Francona, he is the consummate professional, always doing what is best for his team. I applaud him for that.

Also, for what it is worth I don't think Hansen was throwing at A-Rod, he control was awful yesterday, not sure he could have hit ALex if he wanted to.

As for Joba and Youk - I honestly don't know. Given the past between than I can understand Youk's reaction. However, if Joba wanted to hit him tat is about the last spot in a game you want to do that.

Hopefully this is over.

I do however, get a kick at the ire of RSN in regards to this thing. Not like the Sox haven't had a headhunter recently with mango tree boy who seemed to drill people with immunity, mainly Jeter - and a ball at KArim Garcia's head (who I will admit was a scumbag) but still a head ball is a headball even to a jerk.. :)yeah, otherwise joba is gonna be laid out.

[specialkd24]

in all seriousness now...i think you are being a little presumptious....a WS run? Seriously, I think the sox should simply focus on making the playoffs...and feel happy if they only accomplish that goal. Their pitching is pretty bad. I dont see that carrying them very far this year.

If Boston's pitching is bad, then what is NY's? Boston's pitching is better than the Yanks.

Beckett > Mussina
Lester > Chamberlain
Dice-K = Pettitte
Wakefield > Ponson
Buchholz = Rasner

The Sox at least have the advantage in every stop in the pitching rotation.

[scoobycc]

If Boston's pitching is bad, then what is NY's? Boston's pitching is better than the Yanks.

Beckett > Mussina
Lester > Chamberlain
Dice-K = Pettitte
Wakefield > Ponson
Buchholz = Rasner

The Sox at least have the advantage in every stop in the pitching rotation.

Have you seen the yankees pitching lately? If they keep it up, they will be very good.

[thom hudson]

yeah, otherwise joba is gonna be laid out.

If Boston's pitching is bad, then what is NY's? Boston's pitching is better than the Yanks.

Beckett > Mussina
Lester > Chamberlain
Dice-K = Pettitte
Wakefield > Ponson
Buchholz = Rasner

The Sox at least have the advantage in every stop in the pitching rotation.

:lol and :lol

[malarks26]

this game has gotta be rained out, right?

As of right now, I wish it was! :shrug

[thom hudson]

Ponson was bound to get rocked sometime soon...figured he'd suck tonight.

[scoobycc]

If varitek can get an RBI double...then the pitcher should probably call it a night.

[thebestauntie]

If varitek can get an RBI double...then the pitcher should probably call it a night.
:lol:lol:lol:lol :lol:lol:lol:lol

[Crush086]

If Boston's pitching is bad, then what is NY's? Boston's pitching is better than the Yanks.

Beckett > Mussina
Lester > Chamberlain
Dice-K = Pettitte
Wakefield > Ponson
Buchholz = Rasner

The Sox at least have the advantage in every stop in the pitching rotation.
Really? I think differently here.

Beckett 3.83 ERA < Mussina's ERA 3.26. Not to mention he's got more starts.

Lester over Chamberlain isn't a fair comparison. He has a 2.03 ERA since making his first start, and 6 out of 10 have been Quality Starts. And he's given up 3 HR to the 323 batters he's faced. I think Joba would have a better line with the same amount of starts, but that's just speculation.

Dice-K over Pettitte makes sense.

And how come Wang isn't in this? His career hasn't been ended, so what's the deal? Or did you just want to throw Rasner or Ponson in there so you'd be able to give an edge to a Red Sox pitcher?

[scoobycc]

Heeeee's baaaaack.

BOOOM goes Papi

[thebestauntie]

Papi!!!!! :multi :multi :multi :multi :multi :multi

[thom hudson]

And how come Wang isn't in this? His career hasn't been ended, so what's the deal? Or did you just want to throw Rasner or Ponson in there so you'd be able to give an edge to a Red Sox pitcher?

ding ding ding we have a winner! :bounce

EDIT: go ahead and pad your stats tonight, sox. it's still only going to count as one win.
we're content with taking 2 out of 3 from you at Fenway...:)

[MistreatedLewis]

ding ding ding we have a winner! :bounce

Is Wang going to be realistically playing again this season? I haven't heard much on him.

[thom hudson]

Is Wang going to be realistically playing again this season? I haven't heard much on him.
hopefully sometime in late august...

[specialkd24]

I put the 5 pitchers that each team has RIGHT NOW. The OP talked about the Sox (in the Sox thread) just being happy trying to make the playoffs b/c our pitching was so bad.

And Beckett is better than Mussina ANY day of the week, I don't care what Mussina's ERA is. Beckett's #'s are down this year but he still has great numbers against your team and is the best big-game clutch player in baseball.

[MistreatedLewis]

hopefully sometime in late august...

Then I think it's pretty fair not to include him in the rotation at this moment.

[thebestauntie]

What the heck was that? :freak

[thom hudson]

Then I think it's pretty fair not to include him in the rotation at this moment.
yeah, huh?

[thebestauntie]

Wow, that was ugly, but it could have been uglier.

[Crush086]

I put the 5 pitchers that each team has RIGHT NOW. The OP talked about the Sox (in the Sox thread) just being happy trying to make the playoffs b/c our pitching was so bad.

And Beckett is better than Mussina ANY day of the week, I don't care what Mussina's ERA is. Beckett's #'s are down this year but he still has great numbers against your team and is the best big-game clutch player in baseball.
What the hell? Beckett's numbers are down this year? You're mistaken. His numbers were good last year. Unless I'm terribly mistaken. If so, please do prove me wrong.

Hey, you know what? Forget it. I know you can't, and you'll just start throwing postseason numbers out to try and validate your claim.

[MistreatedLewis]

It seems I have ruined the Yankees thread for the evening, or so I am accused.

[thom hudson]

:lol look at you being a tattle-tale! :lol :lol :lol

[MistreatedLewis]

:lol look at you being a tattle-tale! :lol :lol :lol

Hello, retard. :lol:lol

[thebestauntie]

It seems I have ruined the Yankees thread for the evening, or so I am accused.
Well don't come in here and ruin the Red Sox thread too!! :twak:twak:twak

:lol:lol:lol :lol:lol:lol :lol:lol:lol

[MistreatedLewis]

Nice game from Ellsbury.

[UCFish]

I don't get it Manny always looks so happy with the Sox but it seems like he is always trade talk and being shopped.

[thebestauntie]

I don't get it Manny always looks so happy with the Sox but it seems like he is always trade talk and being shopped.
In all honesty, the only answer to that is "Manny being Manny".

[UCFish]

I love Manny.

The Cubs will take him if he wants to leave.

[Lcsulla]

yeah, otherwise joba is gonna be laid out.

That happens you know you are losing a starter as well too. No sense in that. Someone will lay out Beckett in retaliation. If it comes to a brawl and someone on either side gets injured you know someone on the other side is getting an equivalent injury.

The way things look Manny might fight on the Yanks side to take a another swing at Youkilis. ;)

[thebridge15]

I love Manny.

The Cubs will take him if he wants to leave.no thanks. heres to hoping he stays longer than next year

[UCFish]

Don't blame you.

I think he is great and I think they should do everything they can to keep him.

[devilandthelord]

Do any of you guys actually think they'll move Manny?

I sure don't. Its the same old song and dance. And the RedSox aren't stupid.
If they wanna contend for another WS, they need Manny there.
If Manny's not on last year's team, there's no way you guys make it past The Indians.

[thebestauntie]

Do any of you guys actually think they'll move Manny?

I sure don't. Its the same old song and dance. And the RedSox aren't stupid.
If they wanna contend for another WS, they need Manny there.
If Manny's not on last year's team, there's no way you guys make it past The Indians.
It depends on what the Sox can get for him. There aren't a lot of teams that will take on his salary, there's trade talk every year, but nothing's happened yet because the Sox want a lot for him and no one's been willing to cough it up for him. So who knows. I don't really see it happening. But I could be wrong. :shrug

[specialkd24]

I want Manny to stay and I think he will. It isn't the first time he either demanded a trade or said it was okay to trade him. He is an emotional player. But tonight's performance showed he still has it, whether he is currently happy right now or not.

Papi/Manny in the lineup is a feared duo, and the Sox need to keep that in-tact. I say keep him, pick up his option for next year and then see where it goes. Nobody is going to give him 4-years/$100 million. He should be happy taking $20 million from Boston next year.

[scrock25]

I hope you get a hangover! :p

Oh boy, did I ever. Jeez.

[thebestauntie]

Oh boy, did I ever. Jeez.
:lol:lol:lol You must have, because you never post on the weekends or at night! But for the record, I love drunk postings so it was fun for me. :D

[jmudmbphan]

I put the 5 pitchers that each team has RIGHT NOW. The OP talked about the Sox (in the Sox thread) just being happy trying to make the playoffs b/c our pitching was so bad.

And Beckett is better than Mussina ANY day of the week, I don't care what Mussina's ERA is. Beckett's #'s are down this year but he still has great numbers against your team and is the best big-game clutch player in baseball.

and phil hughes is better than beckett...."I don't care what Hughes' ERA is..."


:confused


Sure, if we don't look at numbers and keep our head int he sand, its easy to say someone is better than someone else.