Boston Red Sox

[FPrefect61]

Just pointing out, that's all, we all saw how well the Clemens thing worked out.

Then again, Clemens was pratically kicked out by the head office of Boston, they did all they could to keep Pedro around. What Pedro did may have been business, but it's still pretty lousy on his part.

[dmbfrk]

http://www.comedycentral.com/mp/play.jhtml?player=realplayer&type=v&quality=high&reposid=/multimedia/last_laugh/lastlaugh_leary.html

someone sent me this link, i don't know if people have already seen it but i thought it was pretty funny

[UJCdream]

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/bos/news/bos_news.jsp?ymd=20041223&content_id=925585&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp

YEAH BABY! we've just about got Tek back!

also looks like we've finally completed our starting rotation... although, the last thing we need in a another name like this! Now we've got Mueller, Millar, and Miller. hah.

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/bos/news/bos_news.jsp?ymd=20041223&content_id=925585&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp

[UJCdream]

TEK IS BACK! TEK IS BACK! TEK IS BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCKKK!!!!!

:bounce :bounce

[Nautiest_monkey]

TEK IS BACK! TEK IS BACK! TEK IS BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCKKK!!!!!

:bounce :bounce

I can't see the Tek/Arod thing enough. Much respect to that man.

[Nautiest_monkey]

Wade Miller
Matt Clement
David Wells
Wakefield
and Schilling

Talk about a motley crew of pitchers

[UJCdream]

Wade Miller
Matt Clement
David Wells
Wakefield
and Schilling

Talk about a motley crew of pitchers

:lol i know huh? it'll be interesting to say the least.

[Nautiest_monkey]

:lol i know huh? it'll be interesting to say the least.

:thumbsup It wouldn't be the Sox if it was any other way, it would be the yanks.

[UJCdream]

Absolutely.


I'm very interesting in seeing how some of the new guys adjust to the ways of a Sox player...as well as how the dynamic of the team will change. In '03 it was a team of Cowboys, in '04 it was a team of self-proclaimed idiots, what's in store for '05?

[DMBfan41]

should be interesting. We all know Schilling can pitch. Clement's coming off a 9-13 season. Miller was injured half of last year. Wakefield's coming off a 4.87 ERA season. And Wells is 41, who knows how much he's got left in the tank. My guess would be not much.

[Nautiest_monkey]

I think they're gonna be alright. The only problems don't come from them the come from the Bronx. If the can get that Randy Johnson deal up off the ground again and do end up signing Beltran it will be bad news.

[redsoxiluv]

TEK IS BACK! TEK IS BACK! TEK IS BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCKKK!!!!!

:bounce :bounce
Our captain's coming home! What a fantastic Christmas present :D

[JTRain]

Fuck yeah. My parents got me Remy's book "Watching Baseball" signed by him. :thumbsup

[redsoxiluv]

Fuck yeah. My parents got me Remy's book "Watching Baseball" signed by him. :thumbsup
awesome! let us know how that is; I've been meaning to check that out.

today's red sox tally:

-2 copies of the Stephen King Sox book "Faithful" (hopefully exchanging one for the series DVD)
-3 framed posters (world series champs, ALCS victory photo, and a vintage 1903 world series poster)
-world series champs edition monopoly
-world series hoodie and t-shirt
-ALCS champs throw blanket
-2 red sox christmas ornaments (including a sox nutcracker which my dad is convinced looks like millar:freak)

(and a series champs beer glass which I'd given to my father).

now all I need is the DVD and I'll be set :)

[njdevil26]

Fuck yeah. My parents got me Remy's book "Watching Baseball" signed by him. :thumbsup
your avatar is juiced... im going to have to bring you in for questioning

[UJCdream]

i've got a pretty decent red sox count for this holiday season so far.

my immediate family isn't doing christmas til tomorrow morning, so i'll have to update then... but so far i've gotten:

2 WS on field celebration pictures
"Faithful"
WS throw blanket
Sox bottle opener
signed Varitek ball
2 shirts
2 hats
and a framed picture with shots of Schilling, Foulke, Pedro, Manny, Ortiz, and Tek.

edit: almost forgot to mention my Varitek bobblehead!

[DMBfan41]

awh, thats cute. Enjoy your red christmas. Brings me back memories.

[redsoxiluv]

My update: this afternoon, I got a poster entitled "Bad Boys of Boston" that shows Foulke, Damon, Millar and Kapler on motorcycles. Apparently a relative heard that Millar would be signing at a Harley store nearby, so they got me an autographed one! I'm not really one for motorcycles, but it was still wicked cool...I'm hoping to track down a few other autographs before getting this one framed. :)

and I also received a pink WS Champs T-shirt (which is nice, because my pink ALCS champs shirt got damaged in the wash :()

anyone get the set of 4 WS shot glasses? I saw them on eBay and thought about it, but I decided the regular Sox one I already have was probably enough...

[UJCdream]

update on my list:

tonight i received another tshirt, as well as 2 dvd's :thumbsup

[redsoxiluv]

update on my list:

tonight i received another tshirt, as well as 2 dvd's :thumbsup
faith rewarded? I just might have to go buy that for myself...

here's a pic of the autographed poster I mentioned before (only signed by Millar right now, but still fun!)

[UJCdream]

that's a sweet poster! i've never seen that...


but yes, Faith Rewarded is one of the dvd's. the other was the World Series one.

[Hench]

In an effort to be bipartisan in relation to the Yanks thread...

Show your love for the REAL greatest baseball team ever!! We'll just see which thread stays at the top longer :D
half a year and still going strong...despite my three month absence. katie gets me to come back to ants, and I would make a bee-line for this thread first. looks like it beat out the yank thread...posts reflect life? :lol

[redsoxiluv]

half a year and still going strong...despite my three month absence. katie gets me to come back to ants, and I would make a bee-line for this thread first. looks like it beat out the yank thread...posts reflect life? :lol
hench is back on ants! :bounce glad I could "help" with that process...don't know where I'd be without you and your sox updates (in fact, I might have even missed the lenny d news altogether :eek: )

and happy 1,000.

[warriors1226]

haha i just wanted to let you allllll know that i just was holding the Boston Red Sox 2004 World Series trophy...aaand i got to kiss it too :)

Awesome when your uncle is the CFO and it's the family Christmas party :D

[redsoxiluv]

haha i just wanted to let you allllll know that i just was holding the Boston Red Sox 2004 World Series trophy...aaand i got to kiss it too :)

Awesome when your uncle is the CFO and it's the family Christmas party :D
Bob Furbush? makes sense, I just never made the connection. Awesome!

Did you take any pictures? If so...post 'em!

[Hench]

wow, I stopped on 999 posts? that's at least a little ironic.

as for the lenny D news, we all would have been better off not hearing...as in, if theo hadn't done it. I'll eat my words if your boy does ANYTHING for the team next year.

that's cool about the trophy. I'm happy to settle for seeing it in the parade (and chasing it through the streets of boston with katie) and getting a stand, point, and smile from the god among men himself after starting a "johnny! johnny! johnny!" chant. hell I'm happy with being alive and in boston when it happened.

[redsoxiluv]

wow, I stopped on 999 posts? that's at least a little ironic.

as for the lenny D news, we all would have been better off not hearing...as in, if theo hadn't done it. I'll eat my words if your boy does ANYTHING for the team next year.

that's cool about the trophy. I'm happy to settle for seeing it in the parade (and chasing it through the streets of boston with katie) and getting a stand, point, and smile from the god among men himself after starting a "johnny! johnny! johnny!" chant. hell I'm happy with being alive and in boston when it happened.
well, we're never going to agree on Lenny's potential, but I still have faith in him. guess we'll just have to wait til 2005 and see.:)

[warriors1226]

Bob Furbush? makes sense, I just never made the connection. Awesome!

Did you take any pictures? If so...post 'em!

My cousin took a few pictures, I'm waiting on him to transfer them over :)

[redsoxiluv]

so I'm one of the "Daughters of Kevin Youkilis," and I went over to their boards today for the first time in a few days...guess who posted a holiday greeting? :D

here's Youk's message to his "Daughters," as posted on DoKY (http://groups.msn.com/DaughtersofKevinYoukilis):

Hows it going everyone? Just wanted to come to the site to wish you all Happy Holidays and a great New Year. The team is starting to shape up and spring training is right around the corner. I am training out in Arizona and things are going well. You guys have done well with the website. Never thought I would have a website named after myself but somehow the daughters pulled it off. Thanks again for all the support you give to myself and the rest of my teammates. Lets do it again in 2005.

The Father (only to this website not in reality),
Kevin Youkilis

[Hench]

Youk was at Daisy Buchanan's after they beat the Angels in ALDS game 3 hittin on a girl at the bar. after getting shot down several times, he screamed "do you know who the fuck I am??" at her. she did not.

[warriors1226]

that's hilarious, Youk is the man.

[Wildmoose31]

Has anyone here ever watched "reverse the curse" (or what ever that is on HBO), i was watching that last night, and it was possibly the worst red sox based documentary ive ever seen, it was seriously really depressing and also when it cut to a person in white with a white aura around him (meant to be babe ruth) it tried to sell that their was a higher power which was babe ruth I wanted to punch the tv.

[DMBfan41]

i saw the reverse the curse special. It's funny that it was just the original special with about 8 minutes of them beating the yankees and then like 2 minutes about them beating the cardinals, winning the world series, having a parade, and people being thankful.

[FPrefect61]

From lovable losers to just another part of what's wrong with baseball, the Sox are paying luxury tax, along with the Yanks and Angels.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1953986

Welcome to the dark side. :evil

[UJCdream]

i'd much rather pay $3 million than $25 million!

[FPrefect61]

i'd much rather pay $3 million than $25 million!
If that's so, you can make out the check to Tom Geragh... :p

Something I've been wondering is what the identity of the Sox is now. For the longest time, they were the underdogs, the lovable losers, the laughingstock of baseball. Now that they've won it all, aren't they just another team with a mind-numbingly high payroll, signing all the talent, bringing more disparity to baseball? Aren't they, in a way, just as bad as the Yankees in buying a championship?

[UJCdream]

If that's so, you can make out the check to Tom Geragh... :p

Something I've been wondering is what the identity of the Sox is now. For the longest time, they were the underdogs, the lovable losers, the laughingstock of baseball. Now that they've won it all, aren't they just another team with a mind-numbingly high payroll, signing all the talent, bringing more disparity to baseball? Aren't they, in a way, just as bad as the Yankees in buying a championship?
I'll be pretty interested in seeing what their role is in the upcoming seasons as well. I think it's safe to say that this upcoming season, they're expected to do big things. I see a lot of Patriots comparisons in the future (atleast in Mass., anyway) and be expected to repeat this year or next. As much as I love the Sox, I'd be surprised (and pleased of course) if they pull that off. There will be a lot of "greatest comeback in baseball history" talk this year... but once the thrill of all that has worn off, I really don't know what their role will be. The press is going to have to get pretty creative.

[UJCdream]

Also... I've been reading "Faithful" the past couple days and in it, there was a great line that explains a lot to people outside Red Sox Nation about our feelings towards the Yankees. Very simple, but right to the point: "We hate what we fear, and we fear the Yankees." I'm sure there are some people who claim to not be fearful of the Yankees, or claim to just hate them for no apparent reason. In a twisted, Bostonian sort of way, it's a sign of respect to hate the Yankees. And yes, I suppose that in a way, the Sox are similar to Yankees in buying their championship.

[FPrefect61]

The thrill of that comeback thing wore off pretty quickly to me. :lol

Eiter way, we're fans of teams with bloated payrolls, taking advantage of the rest of baseball to further our chances.

Again, welcome to the dark side. :evil

[UJCdream]

The thrill of that comeback thing wore off pretty quickly to me. :lol

Eiter way, we're fans of teams with bloated payrolls, taking advantage of the rest of baseball to further our chances.

Again, welcome to the dark side. :evil
The thrill of the comeback won't wear off for a while around here. Just in case we have to wait another 86 years, we need to have something to hold on to. :p

And... uh... thanks, I guess. :lol

[FPrefect61]

Also... I've been reading "Faithful" the past couple days and in it, there was a great line that explains a lot to people outside Red Sox Nation about our feelings towards the Yankees. Very simple, but right to the point: "We hate what we fear, and we fear the Yankees." I'm sure there are some people who claim to not be fearful of the Yankees, or claim to just hate them for no apparent reason. In a twisted, Bostonian sort of way, it's a sign of respect to hate the Yankees. And yes, I suppose that in a way, the Sox are similar to Yankees in buying their championship.
There are some boo's that are obvious boo's of respect. Someone that boo's Jeter or screams how much he sucks is really just showing they fear and respect his talent enough to be so outspoken.

The same way I say that Manny sucks or Ortiz or Schilling sucks. I don't like them, but I'd take them in pinstripes anyday.

As for guys like Pedro and A-Rod, well..., they just suck, no respect or fear there. :lol

[FPrefect61]

The thrill of the comeback won't wear off for a while around here. Just in case we have to wait another 86 years, we need to have something to hold on to. :p

And... uh... thanks, I guess. :lol
You've got something that generations of fans never got to see. I've gotta say, the Sox fans I've talked to since hell froze over in October have been great. No loudmouthing, no egos, just shock, relief and joyous celebration. It's hard to be mad at a group of people who are so completely and totally happy like that. :)

[UJCdream]

The same way I say that Manny sucks or Ortiz or Schilling sucks. I don't like them, but I'd take them in pinstripes anyday.


The same way I'd take Jeter or Matsui anyday.

As for guys like Pedro and A-Rod, well..., they just suck, no respect or fear there. :lol

It's a shame we don't play the Mets at all. I'd be really interested in seeing how Boston reacts to Pedro as an opposing pitcher. As far as the fans go, atleast. I've actually had quite a few people tell me they're kind of upset that he didn't go with the Yankees since he decided not to stay here. I believe a direct quote was "Could you imagine how much it would mess with him if all of Fenway was chanting 'Peeeeeeeeedro...Peeeeeeeeedro...'?"

[FPrefect61]

I'd be interested to see what would happen too. He was a great player for your guys, but the way he left was really scummy.

You can bet he won't get a friendly reception when the Yanks and Mets play this year. I don't think it will be as bad as when he was on the Sox. Let's face it, the Mets are a joke. :lol

[UJCdream]

You've got something that generations of fans never got to see. I've gotta say, the Sox fans I've talked to since hell froze over in October have been great. No loudmouthing, no egos, just shock, relief and joyous celebration. It's hard to be mad at a group of people who are so completely and totally happy like that. :)
That's exactly it. Those of us who were lucky enough to see it, are still in shock and relief that why would we want to spoil such a great thing by spending our energy rubbing it in people's (Yankee fans) faces? Because the fact of the matter is, it's still only 1 win to the Yankees 26.

However, and I suppose it's easy for me to say this, but I think I'd much prefer this one win to your several dozen. It just feels like it means so much more. I suppose that's a hard thing to fully understand though unless you've lived it.

[FPrefect61]

The same way I'd take Jeter or Matsui anyday.



It's a shame we don't play the Mets at all. I'd be really interested in seeing how Boston reacts to Pedro as an opposing pitcher. As far as the fans go, atleast. I've actually had quite a few people tell me they're kind of upset that he didn't go with the Yankees since he decided not to stay here. I believe a direct quote was "Could you imagine how much it would mess with him if all of Fenway was chanting 'Peeeeeeeeedro...Peeeeeeeeedro...'?"
You can't have Jeter or Matsui, but you can take Brown and Giambi if you'd like. :lol

[UJCdream]

I'd be interested to see what would happen too. He was a great player for your guys, but the way he left was really scummy.

You can bet he won't get a friendly reception when the Yanks and Mets play this year. I don't think it will be as bad as when he was on the Sox. Let's face it, the Mets are a joke. :lol
I love that he thinks he'll single-handedly turn the Mets organization around. Apparently Petey thinks he did that with the Sox. Newsflash Pedro: Remember a little guy called Schilling? It was a combo effort. You would have been better off staying in Boston, but good luck to you.

[FPrefect61]

That's exactly it. Those of us who were lucky enough to see it, are still in shock and relief that why would we want to spoil such a great thing by spending our energy rubbing it in people's (Yankee fans) faces? Because the fact of the matter is, it's still only 1 win to the Yankees 26.

However, and I suppose it's easy for me to say this, but I think I'd much prefer this one win to your several dozen. It just feels like it means so much more. I suppose that's a hard thing to fully understand though unless you've lived it.
That's exactly how I felt in 1996. The other championships were nice (98 and 00 in particular), but nothing will match how pure winning it alll in 96 felt.

The biggest reason I want to see the Yanks win it now is so Donnie Baseball gets a ring, even if it's just as a coach. It broke my heart when he retired and they won it all the next year.

[UJCdream]

You can't have Jeter or Matsui, but you can take Brown and Giambi if you'd like. :lol
:lol No thanks, I've already got a punching bag and a juicer.

[FPrefect61]

I love that he thinks he'll single-handedly turn the Mets organization around. Apparently Petey thinks he did that with the Sox. Newsflash Pedro: Remember a little guy called Schilling? It was a combo effort. You would have been better off staying in Boston, but good luck to you.
Little guy Schilling? :lol That guy's got balls of steel. A big mouth sometimes, but he's got the heart and the game to back it up.

[UJCdream]

Little guy Schilling? :lol That guy's got balls of steel. A big mouth sometimes, but he's got the heart and the game to back it up.
As long as he keeps backing up that big mouth of his... I say let him talk away. :lol

As for the Donnie Baseball comment... how very un-selfish of you, Tom. Way to be a fan of the game, rather than the ring. :thumbsup

[FPrefect61]

I was raised on Donnie Baseball. For years, he was the quintessential ballplayer in my mind, a symbol of the few good things about the Yankees in the 80s.

[UJCdream]

Oh, also... congratulations to Varitek for finally becoming the official team Captain :thumbsup

Our first since Jim Rice in 1989.

[FPrefect61]

I can't admit to liking Varitek much after the brawl during the season (though I have no love for A-Rod), but there's no doubt he's a real baseball player. Without him, there's no heart or soul to the Sox.

[UJCdream]

Your distaste for Varitek is to be expected, but he is definitely a real player...a real TEAM player. He is the glue that holds this team together both on and off the field. If we weren't able to work a contract with him for next year and beyond, there's no way we'd be able to contend for a while. I mean, I'm sure we would've held our own for a little while, but we wouldn't get too far into the post season if at all.

[UJCdream]

His resigning actually gave birth to a new club rule. Any player who is with the Sox for 8 consecutive seasons (which Varitek will be, come Sept.) can't be traded without consent of the player in question. Which, I think is a great idea. Loyalty to a team deserves a little perk every now and then.

[FPrefect61]

His resigning actually gave birth to a new club rule. Any player who is with the Sox for 8 consecutive seasons (which Varitek will be, come Sept.) can't be traded without consent of the player in question. Which, I think is a great idea. Loyalty to a team deserves a little perk every now and then.
That's how they dealt with his desire for a no-trade clause? Pretty smart.

[UJCdream]

That's how they dealt with his desire for a no-trade clause? Pretty smart.
Yep. This way, Tek gets what he wants, the club gets what they want, and Manny still doesn't get a no-trade clause. :lol

edit: Although, you can't give the Sox all the credit for that one... it was actually the idea of Varitek's agent.

[FPrefect61]

Yep. This way, Tek gets what he wants, the club gets what they want, and Manny still doesn't get a no-trade clause. :lol

edit: Although, you can't give the Sox all the credit for that one... it was actually the idea of Varitek's agent.
Isn't Boras Varitek's agent?

[UJCdream]

Isn't Boras Varitek's agent?
Yessir.

[FPrefect61]

*shudder* If you want someone to blame for 90% of the problems in baseball, put it squarely on his shoulders.

[redsoxiluv]

Isn't Boras Varitek's agent?
sadly, yes. lowe's, too, but we're done with that mess, thank god.

[redsoxiluv]

*shudder* If you want someone to blame for 90% of the problems in baseball, put it squarely on his shoulders.
whoops, beth beat me to it. but I absolutely agree with this comment...his tactics seem particularly vile, even by agents' standards.

[FPrefect61]

If you want to hear something sad, listen to this.

The top salary in 1994 was the Yankees (No surprise there, right? :lol), but it was $44.7 million. Two years later, it was the Yanks again, but only $52.1 million.

It boggles my mind how high the payroll's have climbed in the last 10 years.

[UJCdream]

If you want to hear something sad, listen to this.

The top salary in 1994 was the Yankees (No surprise there, right? :lol), but it was $44.7 million. Two years later, it was the Yanks again, but only $52.1 million.

It boggles my mind how high the payroll's have climbed in the last 10 years.
Wow.

What the hell happened?? I mean, I've been a fan of baseball all my life, but only in the past couple of years have I started to get more in depth with it all, rather than strictly watching the Sox games and leaving it at that.

[redsoxiluv]

looking at the rising average salaries the players get paid is also depressing. at one point, these players were real people, many of whom took secondary jobs in the offseason and settled into new careers once their playing days came to an end. I realize that much of this could be taken as nostalgia for the "golden age" of baseball, and I'm sure that may be part of it, but it seems that our game was once a more pure creation. Whether that's the product of looking back on history in a more favorable light is debatable, of course, but I think we can all agree that baseball today is a much different entity than what appeared in the 1940's-1960's. (In his book "Beyond the Sixth Game," Peter Gammons places the dividing mark on the 1975 Wolrld Series, which seems as reasonable a place as any)

I blame the current state of the game on many things, such as greedy agents making decisions based solely on the bottom line (and often completely ignoring their clients' intangible preferences), an overactive, intrusive media intent on conflating sports figures and hollywood celebrities (do we really need ESPN to chronicle all of Derek Jeter's love interests? this was actually on the front page several days ago), and the players uninion -- after all, the concept of a union was certianly not implemented to help millionaires players battle billionairs owners, which may be cliche but is nevertheless the case. All of this has taken away a fundamental aspect of the game which linked players and fans, and as the players' salaries keep rising and the price of tickets follows suit, the fans will become more and more apathetic. At this point, if we don't get a salary cap soon, I'm not sure how the game can continue to flourish.

wow, I didn't expect this to turn into a rant. :ugh: sorry about that -- it's late and I'm not thinking clearly. eh bien...tant pis.

[cavecricket34]

Oh, also... congratulations to Varitek for finally becoming the official team Captain :thumbsup

Our first since Jim Rice in 1989.
I've never understood why they name people captains in baseball. It's not like they have any more on-field authority than other players like they do in hockey (or do they?). I just don't see the need for a C on their jersey?:confused:

Either way, good deal on keeping Varitek.

But yeah, salaries are outragious. Since when have players made $10M/yr for leadership and defense, like Renteria and Varitek?

[cavecricket34]

I'm a perfect thread killer. :evil

[uriboarder02]

Sure this will put the thread back to the top of the list, but I just wanted to remind everyone 1 thing:

Yankees - 26
Boston - 6


:haha :evil

[redsoxiluv]

Sure this will put the thread back to the top of the list, but I just wanted to remind everyone 1 thing:

Yankees - 26
Boston - 6


:haha :evil just because you brought it up...

YEAR TWO-THOUSAND
*clap. clap. clap-clap-clap*
;)

Honestly, though, I haven't been "gloating," so to speak. As a Sox fan I know all too well how badly such a devastating series loss could hurt, and they certainly don't need me to remind them. Also, I'm so thrilled about this novel feeling -- after years of anticipation and buildup -- that I'd rather revel in it.

[Hench]

Sure this will put the thread back to the top of the list, but I just wanted to remind everyone 1 thing:

Yankees - 26
Boston - 6


:haha :evil
and there's SO much we could remind YOU of.

how about this: http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/arodpurse.jpg :goat

but let's just leave it at this:
WORST COLLAPSE IN SPORTS HISTORY. :ggoat

:haha :lol

[FPrefect61]

Sure this will put the thread back to the top of the list, but I just wanted to remind everyone 1 thing:

Yankees - 26
Boston - 6


:haha :evil
This is coming from a Yankees fan.

Shut the fuck up...

[uriboarder02]

Enjoy your rotation of Schililng's good ankle, David Wells, Cornrow boy, Clement and Tim "Aaron Jr" Wakefield

[Hench]

Enjoy your rotation of Schililng's good ankle, David Wells, Cornrow boy, Clement and Tim "Aaron Jr" Wakefieldbetter than a batting order that includes the new yankee sultan of swat...or shall we call him "slappy mcpurplelips"? one of the greatest players around today? arguably. complete douchebag? absolutely. it's gotta feel good to be "cornrow boy" though, to have been the pitcher to expose a-rod as a childish fraud not once, but twice in the same season.

should we even discuss jason "the incredible shrinking boy" giambi?

[dmblynny]

Oh man, spring training isn't even in session yet and this arguement is brewin' up.

[redsoxiluv]

and there's SO much we could remind YOU of.

how about this: http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/arodpurse.jpg :goat

but let's just leave it at this:
WORST COLLAPSE IN SPORTS HISTORY. :ggoat

:haha :lol
:lol that photo never gets old.

[DMBfan41]

and there's SO much we could remind YOU of.

how about this: http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/arodpurse.jpg :goat

but let's just leave it at this:
WORST COLLAPSE IN SPORTS HISTORY. :ggoat

:haha :lol

So, you are saying the only reason the red sox won was because the yankees choked.

[UJCdream]

you all have tarnished the nice, civil, respectful conversation Tom and I had in here last night.

[cavecricket34]

better than a batting order that includes the new yankee sultan of swat...or shall we call him "slappy mcpurplelips"? one of the greatest players around today? arguably. complete douchebag? absolutely. it's gotta feel good to be "cornrow boy" though, to have been the pitcher to expose a-rod as a childish fraud not once, but twice in the same season.

should we even discuss jason "the incredible shrinking boy" giambi?
:lol Where did the name "SlappyMcBlueLips" come from? That's great. I saw that username on nyyfans, but didn't know who they were referring to.

[Hench]

:lol Where did the name "SlappyMcBlueLips" come from? That's great. I saw that username on nyyfans, but didn't know who they were referring to.
Slappy comes from the ever-so-noble swipe he took at Bronson Arroyo's glove when he realized he was going to be tagged out trying to get on first in game 6...seriously, what a cocksucker. Also, we found out in the postseason that his lips turn purple in the cold (we wouldn't know this until now because Senior Overpayed never could help the Rangers get that far). After I drink an entire bottle of red, friends will say "you look like A-rod now". lol. :lol

[Nautiest_monkey]

Sad times in Beantown


The "Big Unit" wanted the Big Apple. It appears to have finally reached fruition.

ESPN is reporting that the New York Yankees have acquired five-time Cy Young Award winner Randy Johnson from the Arizona Diamondbacks for pitcher Javier Vazquez, prospects and cash.

According to ESPN, paperwork needs to be submitted to the commissioner's office before the trade is finalized.


On December 17, the Yankees, Diamondbacks and Los Angeles Dodgers were working on a three-way deal which would have sent the 41-year-old Johnson and pitcher Kazuhisa Ishii to New York, outfielder Shawn Green and pitcher Brad Penny to Arizona and Vazquez and prospects to Los Angeles. However, the Dodgers backed out at the last minute.

Yankees president Randy Levine and Arizona's incoming chief executive officer Jeff Moorad resumed trade talks after Christmas without involving a third party and apparently reached an agreement.

The Diamondbacks wanted money to offset the difference in Johnson's $16 million salary and the $35.5 million owed to Vazquez over the next three seasons.

According to the New York Daily News, the Yankees will sign Johnson to a two-year extension for another $32 million.

Arizona likely received two minor leaguers - catcher Dioner Navarro and either third baseman Eric Duncan or pitcher Brad Halsey - and money along with Vazquez in the deal.

After blowing a three games to none lead to the Boston Red Sox in the American League Championship Series, the Yankees have focused nearly all of their energy into upgrading their starting rotation with the free agent signings of Carl Pavano and Jaret Wright.

But Johnson was the centerpiece of their plans all along and his addition makes the Yankees the clear favorite to win the World Series for the first time since 2000.

Known as the "Big Unit" because of his 6-10 size, Johnson received little run support last season with Arizona. Despite a 2.60 ERA, Johnson was just 16-14.

A 17-year veteran, Johnson has finished in the top three of the Cy Young voting in nine of the last 12 years. He is a workhorse, logging at least 240 innings in six of the last seven seasons.

Third on the all-time strikeout list with 4,161, Johnson has a career record of 246-128 with a 3.07 ERA. He has been a clutch postseason pitcher, sharing Most Valuable Player honors in the 2001 Fall Classic, when the Diamondbacks bested New York in seven games.

[DMBfan41]

Sad times in Beantown


that's a shame :lorraine

[Hench]

whatever, the yank-me's can keep buying whoever they want, doesn't mean they'll win it all.

[UJCdream]

all it does is make this year more interesting than last year. whatev.

[FPrefect61]

Keep shaking it off like it's no big deal.

[FPrefect61]

This should scare you guys like Schilling signing scared me last off season.

[UJCdream]

Keep shaking it off like it's no big deal.
It's certainly not a small deal... but it's one pitcher. Like I said, it'll make things more interesting than last year.

The Sox have faced great pitching from the Yankees before, and have been able to compete.

[Hench]

all I have to say is I can't wait for the first schilling vs. johnson start.

[UJCdream]

This should scare you guys like Schilling signing scared me last off season.
We're not exactly jumping for joy here. But what can we do about it? Nothing.

Personally, I'm always scared of the Yankees. There's never a moment when I'm not scared of them. I'm still happy with this past season, I'll worry about next season when it happens.

[FPrefect61]

all I have to say is I can't wait for the first schilling vs. johnson start.
It's going to be insane. I can't wait. :D

Beth, the addition of one pitcher certainly helped you guys last year. They wouldn't have won it all if it weren't for Schilling.

[FPrefect61]

We're not exactly jumping for joy here. But what can we do about it? Nothing.

Personally, I'm always scared of the Yankees. There's never a moment when I'm not scared of them. I'm still happy with this past season, I'll worry about next season when it happens.
I never thought I'd see this. Sox fans will never be able to fully lose their apprehension and worst-case scenario thinking. It's too ingrained in your psyche.

But I am seeing underneath the apprehension is peace and fullfillment. :lol

[UJCdream]

It's going to be insane. I can't wait. :D

Beth, the addition of one pitcher certainly helped you guys last year. They wouldn't have won it all if it weren't for Schilling.
Although Schilling was a big piece of the puzzle, it was more than just him that helped us win it. Our defense was atrocious. So with the proper mix of great pitching and great defense... that's how we won it.

[UJCdream]

I never thought I'd see this. Sox fans will never be able to fully lose their apprehension and worst-case scenario thinking. It's too ingrained in your psyche.

But I am seeing underneath the apprehension is peace and fullfillment. :lol

:lol It's like trying to kick a drug addiction... you can't just STOP being fearful after one WS win!

[FPrefect61]

Although Schilling was a big piece of the puzzle, it was more than just him that helped us win it. Our defense was atrocious. So with the proper mix of great pitching and great defense... that's how we won it.
Unfortunately on my end, that's what Georgie forgot, going after Giambi and A-Rod.

A good defense always beats a good offense. That holds true in baseball, football, basketball and, if it ever comes back, hockey.

Massive home runs and 23 run games are fun, but a dominant pitcher and efficient defense will come through much more often.

[FPrefect61]

:lol It's like trying to kick a drug addiction... you can't just STOP being fearful after one WS win!
I've been getting such a kick reading Bill Simmons since the Series. He'll start bitching about something with the Sox, then remind himself they won. :lol I get such a kick talking to Sox fans now. They have no idea what to do with themselves.

[Hench]

We're not exactly jumping for joy here. But what can we do about it? Nothing.

Personally, I'm always scared of the Yankees. There's never a moment when I'm not scared of them. I'm still happy with this past season, I'll worry about next season when it happens.
I rooted for the yanks in game 4 of the alcs. seriously. I just wanted them to beat us and get it over with quickly. part of the reasoning was that aqua teen was on at midnight, and we were watching with a yankee fan who wouldn't let us change the channel until the game was over. as midnight neared, I pleaded with her..."come on, you know they're gonna win!" no avail. finally, the clock passed 12, and the near certain loss combined with not being able to watch the one show that might have cheered me up got to be too much, and I stormed out in frustration. I watched the comeback at my place a few minutes later. it was great and all, but I didn't get too excited.

the whole of game 5 I spent still rootin for the yanks, started to feel ill (not game related) and left before the ending. I found out about the win as I layed in bed from the screams outside.

didn't even watch game 6 cuz I was sick in bed. I was still doubting, but starting to come around.

after that, I KNEW we were going to win game 7. no doubt in my mind. loaded up on wine and painkillers before the game cuz I knew we'd be heading to fenway to celebrate when it was over.


I failed to "keep the faith". oh well, we won, that's what matters.

[UJCdream]

Unfortunately on my end, that's what Georgie forgot, going after Giambi and A-Rod.

A good defense always beats a good offense. That holds true in baseball, football, basketball and, if it ever comes back, hockey.

Massive home runs and 23 run games are fun, but a dominant pitcher and efficient defense will come through much more often.
Exaaaaaaactly. You can have all the home run hitters you want, but if your fielders are dropping the ball left and right and your pitchers are throwing less than stellar... you're going to lose anyway.

George is moving in the right direction for you guys.

[UJCdream]

I rooted for the yanks in game 4 of the alcs. seriously. I just wanted them to beat us and get it over with quickly. part of the reasoning was that aqua teen was on at midnight, and we were watching with a yankee fan who wouldn't let us change the channel until the game was over. as midnight neared, I pleaded with her..."come on, you know they're gonna win!" no avail. finally, the clock passed 12, and the near certain loss combined with not being able to watch the one show that might have cheered me up got to be too much, and I stormed out in frustration. I watched the comeback at my place a few minutes later. it was great and all, but I didn't get too excited.

the whole of game 5 I spent still rootin for the yanks, started to feel ill (not game related) and left before the ending. I found out about the win as I layed in bed from the screams outside.

didn't even watch game 6 cuz I was sick in bed. I was still doubting, but starting to come around.

after that, I KNEW we were going to win game 7. no doubt in my mind. loaded up on wine and painkillers before the game cuz I knew we'd be heading to fenway to celebrate when it was over.


I failed to "keep the faith". oh well, we won, that's what matters.

I won't lie, I turned on game 4 late. I sat and laughed at the Sox everytime a run scored against them. I wouldn't go as far as to say I rooted for the Yanks, but I certainly didn't have faith in the Sox. But I found myself hooked again from game 5 on.

You went to Fenway that night? I was there too. Where'd you stand?

[FPrefect61]

Exaaaaaaactly. You can have all the home run hitters you want, but if your fielders are dropping the ball left and right and your pitchers are throwing less than stellar... you're going to lose anyway.

George is moving in the right direction for you guys.
Look at the NYY run. They didn't have the best lineup, but they had good defense, great starting pitching, and a dominant bullpen. Once the pitching turned to shit, and we couldn't rely on anyone but Mo in the bullpen, it all went to hell.

[UJCdream]

I get such a kick talking to Sox fans now. They have no idea what to do with themselves.

It's so true that it's kind of sad. Like we talked about the other day, about not knowing what the Sox identity will be from now on, we're sort of left with that same problem.

I read somewhere the other day about how the Sox fans will no longer be known for being tormented fans, but just regular fans of baseball. I'm totally fine with that! :lol

[FPrefect61]

Rooting for a team with the second highest payroll in baseball... :p

Beth, I think you and I are proof that Sox fans and Yankees fans can talk baseball and be civil, even friendly about it. :lol

[UJCdream]

Beth, I think you and I are proof that Sox fans and Yankees fans can talk baseball and be civil, even friendly about it. :lol
:lol Funny story about that...

The other night, after you and I had the civil conversation in here, some others came in and starting bitching back and forth and I mentioned how they had tarnished the nice, civil discussion you and I had just had.

I understand that there are times (ALCS, for example) where bickering and things of that nature are almost "required"... but as a whole, there's better ways of going about things.

So.. um... yeah... YANKEES SUCK!! :lol jk ;)

[FPrefect61]

I actually find myself defending the Sox to friends of mine here. I almost feel like a traitor. :lol

So um.. 1918! Oh wait, that doesn't work anymore. Shit, what are we going to do now? :lol

[UJCdream]

So um.. 1918! Oh wait, that doesn't work anymore. Shit, what are we going to do now? :lol

AHA! :lol Now, while the Sox and their fans search for their new identities, the Yankee fans are going to have to start getting creative. No more Bambino. No more Grady. No more 1918. No more "Who's your Daddy?".

[FPrefect61]

AHA! :lol Now, while the Sox and their fans search for their new identities, the Yankee fans are going to have to start getting creative. No more Bambino. No more Grady. No more 1918. No more "Who's your Daddy?".
Don't worry, we'll think of something. :lol

[UJCdream]

I don't doubt that you will. Gotta keep the Faith, yo. :lol

[Hench]

I won't lie, I turned on game 4 late. I sat and laughed at the Sox everytime a run scored against them. I wouldn't go as far as to say I rooted for the Yanks, but I certainly didn't have faith in the Sox. But I found myself hooked again from game 5 on.

You went to Fenway that night? I was there too. Where'd you stand?
we walked up landsdowne...or should I say waded? those crowds were ridiculous...duh. I got a picture of a lovely young lady's exposed breasts on the cameraphone :D . after landsdowne, we turned right, crossed the bridge and headed down to kenmore, then up towards BU.


and as for being friends with yankee fans? my take:
a friend and I went down to NYC the weekend of nov. 5th to see a concert and drink with some friends from the area. the trip had been planned for some time, but after the series I was beside myself with excitement at the idea of wearing the sox hat in town all weekend. our friend warned me when we got down there "you'd better not wear that to the bars tonight. people are gonna be dumping beers on you, guys will be taking swings at you in the bathroom." the only reaction I got to the hat in any of the bars was one bartender we were talking to at last call who poured our beers, then poured three shots of yager "for red sox fans". turns out the guy was from cape cod. go figure. (in an unrelated aside, 10 minutes later we were outside smoking a bowl on the busy street right in front of the bar. I LOVE manhattan.)

all weekend long, every person I saw in a sox hat I gave the point, smile and greeting to, and it just felt amazing. the only sox hat I saw and didn't acknowledge was one GUY in a PINK sox hat (I dunno, don't ask me). sat. night after leaving a bar and all being smashed, I told one of my yankee loving friends that posada is actually a bitch. no less than 5 seconds later I was in a suffocating headlock on the ground having "posada's a ballplayer! he's a fuckin ballplayer!!" screamed into my face. if I could have breathed, I would have been laughing hysterically.

on the bus back, we passed yankee stadium. literally drove on the street right next to it. 4 hours later we rattled by fenway on the last stretch of the mass pike...my own personal victory parade of sorts. what a great weekend in my life.

[UJCdream]

we walked up landsdowne...or should I say waded? those crowds were ridiculous...duh. I got a picture of a lovely young lady's exposed breasts on the cameraphone :D . after landsdowne, we turned right, crossed the bridge and headed down to kenmore, then up towards BU.
ohhhh... haha. yeah, i wasn't there for that mess. i went afterwards and waited around Fenway for the boys to come back. such a kickass time.



and as for being friends with yankee fans? my take:
a friend and I went down to NYC the weekend of nov. 5th to see a concert and drink with some friends from the area. the trip had been planned for some time, but after the series I was beside myself with excitement at the idea of wearing the sox hat in town all weekend. our friend warned me when we got down there "you'd better not wear that to the bars tonight. people are gonna be dumping beers on you, guys will be taking swings at you in the bathroom." the only reaction I got to the hat in any of the bars was one bartender we were talking to at last call who poured our beers, then poured three shots of yager "for red sox fans". turns out the guy was from cape cod. go figure. (in an unrelated aside, 10 minutes later we were outside smoking a bowl on the busy street right in front of the bar. I LOVE manhattan.)

all weekend long, every person I saw in a sox hat I gave the point, smile and greeting to, and it just felt amazing. the only sox hat I saw and didn't acknowledge was one GUY in a PINK sox hat (I dunno, don't ask me). sat. night after leaving a bar and all being smashed, I told one of my yankee loving friends that posada is actually a bitch. no less than 5 seconds later I was in a suffocating headlock on the ground having "posada's a ballplayer! he's a fuckin ballplayer!!" screamed into my face. if I could have breathed, I would have been laughing hysterically.

on the bus back, we passed yankee stadium. literally drove on the street right next to it. 4 hours later we rattled by fenway on the last stretch of the mass pike...my own personal victory parade of sorts. what a great weekend in my life.
:lol :lol best. story. ever.

[UJCdream]

"The pundits who have said we will lose interest in the Red Sox now that they have won it all are wrong. We never loved baseball in this town for the championships. No one ever became a Red Sox fan so they could boast or brag or thump their chest. That’s why people become Yankees fans. We are Red Sox fans because it is fun, because it unites us in a common purpose and gives our whole community, the whole of Red Sox nation, a shared experience. Yes, we wanted to win the World Series, we wanted it more than anything else in the world. But it was never the prospect of winning the World Series that made us love this team and love the game. Winning the World Series is like eating your birthday cake and discovering a thick wad of $100 bills in the middle of it. It is the spectacular, overwhelming surprise that takes something good, something very good, and makes it something incomparable."

[redsoxiluv]

"The pundits who have said we will lose interest in the Red Sox now that they have won it all are wrong. We never loved baseball in this town for the championships. No one ever became a Red Sox fan so they could boast or brag or thump their chest. That’s why people become Yankees fans. We are Red Sox fans because it is fun, because it unites us in a common purpose and gives our whole community, the whole of Red Sox nation, a shared experience. Yes, we wanted to win the World Series, we wanted it more than anything else in the world. But it was never the prospect of winning the World Series that made us love this team and love the game. Winning the World Series is like eating your birthday cake and discovering a thick wad of $100 bills in the middle of it. It is the spectacular, overwhelming surprise that takes something good, something very good, and makes it something incomparable."
aww...fabulous quote! is that simmons?

[FPrefect61]

This isn't cool... The ball belongs to Boston and its fans, not a backup first baseman...


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1961594

[Hench]

This isn't cool... The ball belongs to Boston and its fans, not a backup first baseman...


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1961594
looks like millar will be our first baseman this season. mient will obviously be with the yanks in some capacity :lol

[brydro]

looks like millar will be our first baseman this season. mient will obviously be with the yanks in some capacity :lol

Steinbrenner will probably out bid them for the ball. :lol

[UJCdream]

wow. that's kinda fucked up. "i've been through hell and back this year"... what is a baseball gonna do for you? the city deserves ownership of that ball WAY more than you do.

[DMBfan41]

The Curse Of The Mient?

I find it rather comical. A guy that came there for a half of the season, a backup first basemen, I wouldn't even really consider him a true red sox. And he's holding the ball to make some money. "But I can be bought. I'm thinking, there's four years at Florida State for one of my kids. At least.''

[redsoxiluv]

"As of today, there are 50 days until the Red Sox season opener in the Bronx!"
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/graphics/02_13_05
^important dates in the next 50 days, courtesy of boston.com

it's coming! :bounce

[UJCdream]

yesterday was Truck Day....


it is definitely coming! :bounce

[UJCdream]

:bounce :bounce


Play Ball!


first game of the (pre)season tonight! Sox vs. Twins going to be on NESN

Clement is pitching the first inning or two, and the supposedly Kim. we'll see how that goes...

:bounce :bounce

[dm40band]

did u see that espn called you guys "idiots"? look at www.espn.com and go to the bottom where Bush is there with your precious Schilling

[UJCdream]

did u see that espn called you guys "idiots"? look at www.espn.com and go to the bottom where Bush is there with your precious Schilling
did you miss all of this past season? 'cause the sox were SELF-PROCLAIMED idiots.

[dm40band]

did you miss all of this past season? 'cause the sox were SELF-PROCLAIMED idiots.

honestly i dont pay attention to a team that call themselves IDIOTS!!! they will get whats coming to them, TRUST ME!!!! Here's to another great 86 years of NON-RED-SOX WS CHAMPS!!!! :lol

[UJCdream]

honestly i dont pay attention to a team that call themselves IDIOTS!!! they will get whats coming to them, TRUST ME!!!! Here's to another great 86 years of NON-RED-SOX WS CHAMPS!!!! :lol
wow man. bitter much?

and...they'll get what's coming to them? what's that supposed to mean? what do they have coming to them? what have they done (other than win a WS) to piss you off?

chill out.

[rockyracoon]

maybe he meant that they'll be getting their phat rings soon?

[UJCdream]

maybe he meant that they'll be getting their phat rings soon?
:lol maybe.




for what it's worth (which isn't much, considering it's only ST)... the Sox just won their first Grapefruit League game. 4-3 Sox over the Twins. woo.

[lwaltz#41]

for what it's worth (which isn't much, considering it's only ST)... the Sox just won their first Grapefruit League game. 4-3 Sox over the Twins. woo.

I don't think that it's worth much. After all, the Nationals won yesterday and I don't expect them to be in the WS. Congrats none the less...

[rockyracoon]

the tig's won today, 9-1 over the phillie's. i'll tell you what folks, don't be surprised if the tigers flirt with the AL central crown. i'm not basing this on a spring training win. but this team has a solid lineup, should get decent starting pitching, and has improved their bullpen big time. yes, the central isn't great, but it works out for the tigers.

[UJCdream]

I don't think that it's worth much. After all, the Nationals won yesterday and I don't expect them to be in the WS. Congrats none the less...
nah, i know that. ST games are a joke. it's basically try-outs for the minor leaguers in a game setting. but thanks.

[UJCdream]

the tig's won today, 9-1 over the phillie's. i'll tell you what folks, don't be surprised if the tigers flirt with the AL central crown. i'm not basing this on a spring training win. but this team has a solid lineup, should get decent starting pitching, and has improved their bullpen big time. yes, the central isn't great, but it works out for the tigers.
congrats on the win.

and it'd be nice to see some new true contenders through the AL.

[UJCdream]

and... this has nothing to do with baseball, but...


:bounce :bounce :bounce to the return of the Garden!

[ProudestAnt]

I thought that Hanely Ramirez played well tonight. He's supposedly the up-and-coming SS of the future for us, so it was nice to see him making some nice plays in the field. Clement looked good also in the first...

[rockyracoon]

definately. i hate the twins, and i'm sick of seeing them in the playoffs although they're probably the favorite of the division. and i'm also sick of the fuckin yankee's, (steinbrenner actually)but that's not really the point.

[lwaltz#41]

congrats on the win.

and it'd be nice to see some new true contenders through the AL.

True Contenders for WS
New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
Anaheim Angels
Minnesota Twinkies
Texas Rangers
Cleveland Indians

I like the Tigers but just can't put them up there yet. Maybe when we get into the season, and see how Mags holds up, then they'll be there.

[UJCdream]

I thought that Hanely Ramirez played well tonight. He's supposedly the up-and-coming SS of the future for us, so it was nice to see him making some nice plays in the field. Clement looked good also in the first...
yeah, HR looked good tonight. i'll be looking forward to seeing him some more during ST.

Clement did okay i thought, a lot of trouble with command though... which can be very dangerous in this league. we'll see what working with Tek and Schill can do for him.

I'd say overall though, I was most impressed with Stern. i think he's got a real shot at being the 5th outfielder.

[rockyracoon]

just for the record, i was in no way puting them in that categorie for a WS. but hey, did anyone expect the marlins to take it 2 years ago? it's just nice to finally have a big league team back on the field here, although i wish it they would be playin at tiger stadium. and i'm probably just getting giddy for baseball season.

[UJCdream]

True Contenders for WS
New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
Anaheim Angels
Minnesota Twinkies
Texas Rangers
Cleveland Indians

I like the Tigers but just can't put them up there yet. Maybe when we get into the season, and see how Mags holds up, then they'll be there.

I agree with that list, absolutely. But when I mentioned the Tigers, I was just refering to AL contenders...as in, putting up a fight but not necessarily making it to the WS.

[lwaltz#41]

just for the record, i was in no way puting them in that categorie for a WS. but hey, did anyone expect the marlins to take it 2 years ago? it's just nice to finally have a big league team back on the field here, although i wish it they would be playin at tiger stadium. and i'm probably just getting giddy for baseball season.

They could be a fun team to watch this season. I hoping that they do well to bring back some old school Tigers pride!

[rockyracoon]

by the way, who's the sox opening day SS?

[lwaltz#41]

I agree with that list, absolutely. But when I mentioned the Tigers, I was just refering to AL contenders...as in, putting up a fight but not necessarily making it to the WS.

Thank you (Sorry for putting the Yankees at #1...that was a mistake on my part)

[rockyracoon]

They could be a fun team to watch this season. I hoping that they do well to bring back some old school Tigers pride!

RESTORE THE ROAR OF 84! one of the best teams ever. got out to a 35-5 start, first place the entire season. i just wish i could've been more than a year old to witness it. damnit.

[UJCdream]

by the way, who's the sox opening day SS?
Edgar Renteria

[UJCdream]

Thank you (Sorry for putting the Yankees at #1...that was a mistake on my part)
:twak :banned


heh. no problem.

[rockyracoon]

Edgar Renteria

holy shit. i cannot believe i forgot that he signed there. jesus christ, all this basketball on SC is driving me crazy. damn, the sox look good.

[lwaltz#41]

:twak :banned


heh. no problem.

:lol Whew. I wouldn't want to piss off the resident Red Sox fan...especially because I'm a Mets fan (but then again...)

[UJCdream]

holy shit. i cannot believe i forgot that he signed there. jesus christ, all this basketball on SC is driving me crazy. damn, the sox look good.
on paper, they definitely look great.

let's just hope they can live up to the expectation. although, i'm not holding my breath for a repeat. this is Boston, after all. :lol

[UJCdream]

:lol Whew. I wouldn't want to piss off the resident Red Sox fan...especially because I'm a Mets fan (but then again...)
:lol s'all good. i'm not a bitter/cocky/arrogant fan. much respect for everyone else and their teams. (yes, even the Yankees)

edit: also, just wanted to add in, that i think Pedro is going to do very very well with you guys this year. he'll be a nice boost that the Mets need.

[rockyracoon]

long, long, long season. and let's not forget they better play consistent ball all year. they're in a tough division and the wild card is no guarantee either.

[lwaltz#41]

:lol s'all good. i'm not a bitter/cocky/arrogant fan. much respect for everyone else and their teams. (yes, even the Yankees)

Yeah, I know. You're a good Boston fan

Also, to respond to an earlier post from you...I think that Boston knows a little something about repeating now. After all, during the Yankees vs. Pirates game, the announcer was talking about how the Red Sox look to the Patsies for inspiration.

[saygoodbye12]

True Contenders for WS
New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
Anaheim Angels
Minnesota Twinkies
Texas Rangers
Cleveland Indians


The Angels don't have the pitching to make it to the World Series and you forgot the Cardinals.

[UJCdream]

long, long, long season. and let's not forget they better play consistent ball all year. they're in a tough division and the wild card is no guarantee either.
oh absolutely.

not sure that we could survive another season where we play 3 months of .500 ball

[UJCdream]

Yeah, I know. You're a good Boston fan

Also, to respond to an earlier post from you...I think that Boston knows a little something about repeating now. After all, during the Yankees vs. Pirates game, the announcer was talking about how the Red Sox look to the Patsies for inspiration.

oh yeah, they definitely look up to the Pats on how to keep cool and go for the repeat. they talk about that here all the time. and i do think that, on paper, they have a good chance at a repeat... but like someone else said, it's a very long season. anything can happen.

[lwaltz#41]

The Angels don't have the pitching to make it to the World Series and you forgot the Cardinals.

I was only doing the AL there

True Contenders for WS (NL)
St. Louis Cardinals
Atlanta Braves
Florida Marlins
New York Mets
San Francisco Giants (sadly)
Chicago Cubs

Dodgers maybe later in the season. Same with the 'Stros.

[UJCdream]

I hope the Dodgers know what they got themselves into by picking up DLowe.

he's a great post-season pitcher, but the everday stuff he's a friggin MESS.

[UNC41]

The Angels don't have the pitching to make it to the World Series and you forgot the Cardinals.

The Rangers were on that list and you call out the Angels for lack of pitching, but say nothing about Texas?

[UJCdream]

I was only doing the AL there

True Contenders for WS (NL)
St. Louis Cardinals
Atlanta Braves
Florida Marlins
New York Mets
San Francisco Giants (sadly)
Chicago Cubs

Dodgers maybe later in the season. Same with the 'Stros.
i don't know about the Cubs on that one. they're missing that one or two big punches to pull it off, i think.

[saygoodbye12]

The Rangers were on that list and you call out the Angels for lack of pitching, but say nothing about Texas?

Good point. I think as soon as I saw Anaheim I skipped the rest of the list. Although the Rangers do have Kenny Rogers to count on to bring home a ring. :thumbsup

And unless I'm forgetting some people, the Indians pitching depth isn't all that great either. (but definitely better than the Angels and Rangers)

[saygoodbye12]

i don't know about the Cubs on that one. they're missing that one or two big punches to pull it off, i think.

I would put the Astros in before the Cubs...assuming everyone stays healthy.

[UNC41]

Good point. I think as soon as I saw Anaheim I skipped the rest of the list. Although the Rangers do have Kenny Rogers to count on to bring home a ring. :thumbsup

And unless I'm forgetting some people, the Indians pitching depth isn't all that great either. (but definitely better than the Angels and Rangers)

Sabathia and Westbrook give Cleveland two good pitchers at the top of a young staff. I think they are a year away from doing anything serious.

[UJCdream]

I would put the Astros in before the Cubs...assuming everyone stays healthy.
agreed.

and as far as staying healthy, a lot of clubs are relying on that too. Sox and Yanks included.

[lwaltz#41]

Good point. I think as soon as I saw Anaheim I skipped the rest of the list. Although the Rangers do have Kenny Rogers to count on to bring home a ring. :thumbsup

And unless I'm forgetting some people, the Indians pitching depth isn't all that great either. (but definitely better than the Angels and Rangers)

The Angels have great hitters and I didn't say that they would win the WS. I said that they would compete which means that they will win the division. Mariners are good not yet, the A's are very ho hum, and the Rangers could take a Wild Card spot. I love the young hitters in that lineup.

[DMBfan41]

I was only doing the AL there

True Contenders for WS (NL)
St. Louis Cardinals
Atlanta Braves
Florida Marlins
New York Mets
San Francisco Giants (sadly)
Chicago Cubs

Dodgers maybe later in the season. Same with the 'Stros.

Mets are definately not contenders. They improved the most, but they will still finish in 4th in the NL East

[lwaltz#41]

I would put the Astros in before the Cubs...assuming everyone stays healthy.

The Astros really have no hitting outside of Biggio, Bags and Berk (who is hurt). The earlier two are old and could easily be hurt. While the pitching looks good, who knows what might happen to 41 year old Rocket, Andy was hurt all last year, and Oswalt might not be able to stay healthy all year.

I know you said assuming everyone is healthy but I think health has to play a huge factor

[lwaltz#41]

Mets are definately not contenders. They improved the most, but they will still finish in 4th in the NL East

Below the Nationals? C'mon

They have one of the best 1-2-3 lineups in the league (Reyes, Matsui and Beltran) Wright is a stud, Piazza will be better than now that the pressure if off him, Cliff isn't much, Cameron hit 30 HRs last year, and Dougie is the best defensive 1B in the league.

If the pitching stays healthy, they can be awesome (Pedro, Glavine, Trachs, Zambrano, and Benson) The only concern is the bullpen which isn't all that good outside of Loop.

[saygoodbye12]

The Astros really have no hitting outside of Biggio, Bags and Berk (who is hurt). The earlier two are old and could easily be hurt. While the pitching looks good, who knows what might happen to 41 year old Rocket, Andy was hurt all last year, and Oswalt might not be able to stay healthy all year.

I forgot they don't have Kent anymore. That's a big loss.

[UNC41]

Below the Nationals? C'mon

They have one of the best 1-2-3 lineups in the league (Reyes, Matsui and Beltran) Wright is a stud, Piazza will be better than now that the pressure if off him, Cliff isn't much, Cameron hit 30 HRs last year, and Dougie is the best defensive 1B in the league.

If the pitching stays healthy, they can be awesome (Pedro, Glavine, Trachs, Zambrano, and Benson) The only concern is the bullpen which isn't all that good outside of Loop.

You are overrating Reyes and Matsui. They had on base percentages of .271 and .331, not what you want from the top of your lineup. Piazza hasn't had 100 RBI since 2000. Cameron can give you some pop, but hits crap for average. Doug is great defensively, but can't hit worth beans. One thing you are right on is Wright is a stud. He and Beltran are the only two places in the mets lineup that stand out at me.

You are asking a lot if you expect that pitching staff to take them to the playoffs.

[DMBfan41]

Below the Nationals? C'mon

They have one of the best 1-2-3 lineups in the league (Reyes, Matsui and Beltran) Wright is a stud, Piazza will be better than now that the pressure if off him, Cliff isn't much, Cameron hit 30 HRs last year, and Dougie is the best defensive 1B in the league.

If the pitching stays healthy, they can be awesome (Pedro, Glavine, Trachs, Zambrano, and Benson) The only concern is the bullpen which isn't all that good outside of Loop.

no, they'll be ahead of the nationals. They'll be in 5th. But, the Braves, Marlins, and Phillies still look more impressive then the Mets

[lwaltz#41]

You are overrating Reyes and Matsui. They had on base percentages of .271 and .331, not what you want from the top of your lineup. Piazza hasn't had 100 RBI since 2000. Cameron can give you some pop, but hits crap for average. Doug is great defensively, but can't hit worth beans. One thing you are right on is Wright is a stud. He and Beltran are the only two places in the mets lineup that stand out at me.

You are asking a lot if you expect that pitching staff to take them to the playoffs.

Matsui now has a year of MLB pitching under his belt. Reyes would look so much better in all numbers if he hadn't been hurt as much (big concern). If he stays healthy for the whole year, look out.

Piazza isn't that great anymore but since 2000, he's been the face of the Mets. Now it's Beltran which will mean pressure of Piazza and he's also not playing first anymore (he hit 100 points higher when he caught last year!)

Cameron is all right when you need the useless HR but can steal whenever he gets on. I agree about Dougie but he will save lots of runs and errors while patrolling first base

The pitching staff will be good IF IF IF IF they stay healthy

[UNC41]

Matsui now has a year of MLB pitching under his belt. Reyes would look so much better in all numbers if he hadn't been hurt as much (big concern). If he stays healthy for the whole year, look out.

Piazza isn't that great anymore but since 2000, he's been the face of the Mets. Now it's Beltran which will mean pressure of Piazza and he's also not playing first anymore (he hit 100 points higher when he caught last year!)

Cameron is all right when you need the useless HR but can steal whenever he gets on. I agree about Dougie but he will save lots of runs and errors while patrolling first base

The pitching staff will be good IF IF IF IF they stay healthy

Wishful thinking, but if things go exactly like that but better and the Braves and Marlins don't blow up the playoffs are a possibility.

[lwaltz#41]

Wishful thinking, but if things go exactly like that but better and the Braves and Marlins don't blow up the playoffs are a possibility.

It is wishful thinking but I think they have a chance. The Braves, even with great pitching, aren't doing that hot on the offensive side of the ball. The Marlins are sick...plain and simple. Phillies are well, the Phillies.

[redsoxiluv]

hanley started a triple play today :bounce

gotta love our SS of the future...

[Hench]

hanley started a triple play today :bounce

gotta love our SS of the future...

quote the article on redsox.com:

"Like most triple plays, it developed quickly."

I've decided I could write for mlb.com...if I were so inclined. :lol


So how exactly are things gonna develop? will they trade hanley? betcha they do.

[redsoxiluv]

quote the article on redsox.com:

"Like most triple plays, it developed quickly."

I've decided I could write for mlb.com...if I were so inclined. :lol


So how exactly are things gonna develop? will they trade hanley? betcha they do.

:eek sacrilege!

did you ever check out the sox fan forum? I used to lurk there a bit last year and there were always rumors that hanley posted there...

[UJCdream]

So how exactly are things gonna develop? will they trade hanley? betcha they do.

i dunno. i think it depends on what moves they need to make. if they get desperate enough, i'm sure they'd trade him. i mean, hanley is still a few years away from making it pro...so it'd tie in nicely with the end of renteria's contract...but i dunno. like i said, i think it'll depend on how desperate they get for a trade or whatever.

[redsoxiluv]

so apparently between six and twelve of our boys were just tested for steroids. I know this may be irrational and/or naive, but I really want to believe that everyone on the championship team was clean...last fall meant so much to me, and to every other member of red sox nation, and it would be terrible see it tainted in any way.

[DMBfan41]

so apparently between six and twelve of our boys were just tested for steroids. I know this may be irrational and/or naive, but I really want to believe that everyone on the championship team was clean...last fall meant so much to me, and to every other member of red sox nation, and it would be terrible see it tainted in any way.

well...they are the idiots. So, you never know. But, the biggest irony would be if Schilling was on steroids

[FPrefect61]

I take it you mean they were only tested, the results aren't in yet.

[redsoxiluv]

I take it you mean they were only tested, the results aren't in yet.

Exactly. Here's the article I alluded to...


Six Red Sox players tested for steroid use

By Howard Ulman, AP Sports Writer | March 10, 2005

FORT MYERS, Fla. -- At least six players on the World Series champion Boston Red Sox were tested Thursday as part of major league baseball's program to curb steroid use

Team vice president Mike Port said six to 12 players were tested but he was not allowed to give out names. He was contacted Wednesday night by the independent company handling the tests and told they would be conducted the following day.

"We never get the results," Port said. "I guess, as best I know, the only news that a club might get is that which might be less than desirable. Otherwise, no news is good news."

Players from several other teams already have been tested.

Under baseball's new steroid program, which still has not been finalized, first-time offenders are suspended for 10 days without pay.

"There might be some relief from a majority of the players," manager Terry Francona said. "Let's prove, I guess, their innocence. But I didn't see anybody panic in there. I didn't expect to."

Pitcher Curt Schilling, who has been outspoken about steroid use, was subpoenaed to testify March 17 before a congressional committee with six other current and former players.

He was unavailable for comment on Thursday. On Wednesday, after he was invited to testify voluntarily but before the subpoenas were issued, he said, "I think they asked me because I have an opinion. I think it's pointless because I don't think this is about opinions."

Johnny Damon, Boston's player representative, supports the testing program agreed to by the commissioner's office and the players' association. He said he wasn't tested Thursday.

"The game really needs to earn its credibility back," he said. "It's going to be good for this game, but, most importantly, it's going to make us aware that we can't cheat in this game and we have to play on an even playing field. Hopefully, kids can see that, too, and say, `hey, we can't get away with it either. That's the most important thing."

On Thursday morning, Port received the list of players to be tested and said all cooperated. Additional Red Sox players will be tested later.

"I'm glad this is happening because I've heard so much, read so much that I know is not true," Francona said. "This is the best way to do it. Just go ahead and test people. Then it takes that conjecture out because right now everybody's guessing."






I hope Francona's right about "proving their innocence" -- no Red Sox players have come under any suspicion, but at this point it's hard to realistically expect a completely clean clubhouse anywhere. :(

[FPrefect61]

Sadly, it's the nature of the beast. The fans wanted to see huge home runs and high scores, not pitchers' duels. Everyone's to blame here. The Congress thing is only going to make it worse, almost like a witch trial. Everyone's guilty until proven innocent.

I still think the policy now is too lenient. In my world, everyone gets tested. You get caught, you're banned for life and all your stats erased from the record books.

[Hench]

so apparently between six and twelve of our boys were just tested for steroids. I know this may be irrational and/or naive, but I really want to believe that everyone on the championship team was clean...last fall meant so much to me, and to every other member of red sox nation, and it would be terrible see it tainted in any way.

I forget if it was at the beginning of 2003 or 2004, but at the beginning of one of those two seasons, varitek looked a LOT svelter than he had the previous year. I noticed this immediately, and this was before I even followed baseball and the sox even somewhat closely. make of that observation what you will.

[UJCdream]

haven't been around in a month or so... but i just thought i'd top this seeing how the season officially begins in less than a week.

Go Sox.

[davehead34]

Yankees suck.

Sox rule.

Fuck Bush and Kerry. I voted for Damon.

[EatSleepJeep]

Sadly, it's the nature of the beast. The fans wanted to see huge home runs and high scores, not pitchers' duels. Everyone's to blame here. The Congress thing is only going to make it worse, almost like a witch trial. Everyone's guilty until proven innocent.

I still think the policy now is too lenient. In my world, everyone gets tested. You get caught, you're banned for life and all your stats erased from the record books.

I concur.

[Hench]

2-hole sure is a weird spot for trot...

[davehead34]

Wow, banned for life? That's like getting busted for scalping WH seats and never being allowed back into a DMB show...

[GWDMB]

Wow, banned for life? That's like getting busted for scalping WH seats and never being allowed back into a DMB show...

I agree with Tom. Its cheating, and in my book, its the worst form of cheating. If Pete Rose gets banned for gambling, players should be banned for using steroids. Any player who uses steroids is cheating in a worse way than Rose cheated when he bet on baseball. I dont' think there is any way baseball can justify NOT banning a player who uses steroids.

[redsoxiluv]

haven't been around in a month or so... but i just thought i'd top this seeing how the season officially begins in less than a week.

Go Sox.

BETH! where the heck have you been? glad to see you're back!

[Hench]

glad to see BASEBALL'S back in 4 days!

[redsoxiluv]

glad to see BASEBALL'S back in 4 days!

:bounce :multi :bounce

I can't believe it. It's been a long winter (though not quite as long as we'd been used to:D) Sunday night can't come quickly enough...

[redsoxiluv]

and might I add that I'm thrilled to be rid of BK

[Hench]

katie, that show is happening friday night. I'm gonna try and find out about it for you tomorrow.

[davehead34]

Yeah, winter has been wicked long, but it's been GREAT!! One part of me doesn't want baseball to start cuz I love having the Red Sox as the World Champs :cool Quite frankly, I'd like to keep that title as long as possible. I haven't had nearly enough time to rub it into fucking Yankees faces (but then again, will there ever be enough time :lol ).

Anyways, this should be a very exciting year for us. Lots of aquisitions. Our bullpen should make us or brake us. I guess we'll have to see. Also, am I the only person who could care less that Pedro "The Fuckin Trader" Martinez left?

[redsoxiluv]

katie, that show is happening friday night. I'm gonna try and find out about it for you tomorrow.
aw, thanks so much! but if it's too much of a hassle don't worry about it...I've seen them before and they don't yet have a big enough catalogue to vary their setlists that much.

[brianlisk]

I need people's opinion.

I was born and raised in Connecticut. (East of the River, so I follow Boston teams). Growing up, we went to about 3 Sox games per year. When the strike happened, my dad (like MANY Americans) went on strike against baseball. I was 13, so I was still heavily influenced by what my dad did, and therefore went against baseball also. I didn't pay attention til last June when I met a girl that like baseball. She is from CA, but went to school in Boston, and became a HUGE Boston Sports fan (I was/am already a Patriots fan for life, and Bruins (not Celtics... remember, I'm from CT, so It was all about UConn). So I started to get back into baseball. Not enough to buy any gear or anything, because for years, I was bitching about how much baseball sucked, but now all of a sudden I show up in Sox hats and jerseys and stuff?? How would that look. Like a big fat bandwagon fan. Admittedly, I did 'just' start to like baseball again. Not just because of the girl, I was actually excited for the games to come on. So since we both like the Red Sox... and they just won the series... does this make me a bandwagon fan??? I celebrated when they won the championship, but I felt shallow about it... like I didn't 'deserve' it.

Basically... I am a Boston Red Sox fan, but should I feel bad about being a Boston Red Sox fan now?

[Hench]

just snatched up tuesday and wednesday tickets for the games in yankee stadium.

it's ON.

[ExistenceNow]

I need people's opinion.

I was born and raised in Connecticut. (East of the River, so I follow Boston teams). Growing up, we went to about 3 Sox games per year. When the strike happened, my dad (like MANY Americans) went on strike against baseball. I was 13, so I was still heavily influenced by what my dad did, and therefore went against baseball also. I didn't pay attention til last June when I met a girl that like baseball. She is from CA, but went to school in Boston, and became a HUGE Boston Sports fan (I was/am already a Patriots fan for life, and Bruins (not Celtics... remember, I'm from CT, so It was all about UConn). So I started to get back into baseball. Not enough to buy any gear or anything, because for years, I was bitching about how much baseball sucked, but now all of a sudden I show up in Sox hats and jerseys and stuff?? How would that look. Like a big fat bandwagon fan. Admittedly, I did 'just' start to like baseball again. Not just because of the girl, I was actually excited for the games to come on. So since we both like the Red Sox... and they just won the series... does this make me a bandwagon fan??? I celebrated when they won the championship, but I felt shallow about it... like I didn't 'deserve' it.

Basically... I am a Boston Red Sox fan, but should I feel bad about being a Boston Red Sox fan now?

as long as you hated on baseball as a whole and didn't switch teams or anything like that... still a little shady, but i wouldn't call you a complete bandwagon fan.

edit: My dad was the same as yours... he has not watched a single game since the stike..

[UJCdream]

Time to defend our Championship.

ahhhhhhhh... such a good day.

[lillerfm]

I'm a Indians fan...diehard and all, but I'd have to say that I'm pulling for the Red Sox a little this year...any time a team dryrapes the Yankee's the way the Sox did I owe them that much.

[Nautiest_monkey]

Time to defend our Championship.

ahhhhhhhh... such a good day.

:monkey :monkey :monkey

[Hench]

As if this uber-rivalry needed any more hype, the Red Sox will send the 21st century Babe to the mound in the fat form of 41-year-old David Wells, a collector of Ruth memorabilia and a man who owns one of the best winning percentages in the storied history of the Yankee franchise. The portly portsider will wear the Babe's No. 3 on his Boston jersey, channeling the Big Fella who pitched against New York the last time the Red Sox were defending world champs back in 1919.

-boston.com

[redsoxiluv]

Time to defend our Championship.

ahhhhhhhh... such a good day.

indeed. did you get the poster in the globe today? it features the photo of Tek jumping on Embree, with the caption "World Champions: Defending the crown in 2005."

it's still hard to believe :D

[redsoxiluv]

As if this uber-rivalry needed any more hype, the Red Sox will send the 21st century Babe to the mound in the fat form of 41-year-old David Wells, a collector of Ruth memorabilia and a man who owns one of the best winning percentages in the storied history of the Yankee franchise. The portly portsider will wear the Babe's No. 3 on his Boston jersey, channeling the Big Fella who pitched against New York the last time the Red Sox were defending world champs back in 1919.

-boston.com

I still have trouble thinking of Boomer in a positive light. but I'm trying...

[DMBfan41]

21st century Babe? that's a bit too much.

[Hench]

21st century Babe? that's a bit too much.

talk to shaughnessy about it.

[dm40band]

im not gonna be the typical Yankee fan right now so here it goes:

good luck in the season, hopefully it will be ALCS Part 3

[slk11086]

can't wait for tonight :)

[DMBfan41]

someone tell Bronson Arroyo to stop singing, please?

[taraflorida]

All right Red Sox fans, you've got to go check out the movie Fever Pitch as soon as possible! I saw it last night with my dad and it was truely PERFECT! I could relate to this movie on so many levels it was scary (both as a Red Sox fan as well as a Dave Matthews Band Fan). I think it officially opens next weekend. Check it out.

[UJCdream]

I'll definitely be going to see Fever Pitch.

I don't care how terrible a movie (not saying that this will be one of them, but you never know), if it's about the Sox, I'm seeing it.


Although, I'm a sucker when it comes to movies about baseball. Even if it weren't about the Sox, I'd see it eventually.


GO SOX!


in the words of G38: "We can repeat....if we believe."

[DMBfan41]

It might be too hard to watch that movie, but I'll probably see it anywayz.

Two of my favorite movies, For THe Love Of THe Game and Major League, the Yankees lose

[Wildmoose31]

Im lost, Im in boston and cannot find the redsox on tv, they are blacked out on espn2 and supposed to be on NESN, BUT Charlie Moore is on nesn right now

[Wildmoose31]

I found it, I didnt expect UPN38 on a sunday when the tv listings say NESN

[brianlisk]

Sprots Guy Bill Simmons say

Not feeling the fever
If you haven't seen the extended trailer for "Fever Pitch," click here.

So here's my question: Why am I rooting so hard for a movie that prominently involves footage of Fenway Park, David Ortiz, the 2004 World Series celebration, the city of Boston and everything else to fail?

I narrowed it down to four reasons:

1. Not only was Nick Hornby's book about following an English soccer team, not only was it one of the better sports books ever written, but they already MADE it into a movie eight years ago. If you're going to bastardize the idea and Americanize it about the Red Sox, at least call it something different. I'm not sure why this enrages me, but it does. The lack of creativity in Hollywood is appalling. It really is.

2. If you're making a Red Sox movie, and you want Sox fans to like it, you cannot cast Jimmy Fallon. You just can't. It's bad enough that he admitted he doesn't like sports, and that he's had three favorite baseball teams over the course of his life -- the Mets, Yankees and Red Sox. More important, it's Jimmy Fallon! He's your choice as a diehard Sox fan, a guy who always looks like he's wearing makeup? Who was the runner-up for the role, the lead singer from Train? Think of it this way -- imagine if Jimmy Fallon played either of the lead roles in "Good Will Hunting"? Would that have EVER happened? So why the hell is he in this movie? I always thought the casting of Timothy Hutton and Michael Rapaport in "Beautiful Girls" was the least realistic casting of any Massachusetts character ever, but this one takes the cake. They could have hired 50 Cent to play the lead character and it would have been more realistic.

3. The trailer screams "chick flick," which is bad enough, but the scene where Fallon's character drops to his knee and makes the Opening Day proposal ... I mean, what guy would ever do that, and what woman wouldn't kill him with her bare hands afterwards? Is it possible to take the movie seriously after that scene? I say no. I'm also worried that this is one of those movies that will give women ideas -- like, "If Drew Barrymore can tame Jimmy Fallon and get him to stop watching so much sports by the end of this movie, maybe my man will follow suit!"

4. I don't blame Fallon and Drew Barrymore for being on the field right after Game 4 of the World Series, since they were actors just doing their job; if anything, I blame the Red Sox for allowing it to happen, as well as the Farrellys for not understanding how offensive that moment was for every Red Sox fan who had been waiting their entire