Boston Red Sox

[davehead34]

I want wells' head on a stake

:lol

Don't give up on him so early! Wait till after All-Star break to plan mutiny. If he's still sucking post-break, I'll give you the sword.

[swenny020]

I'm tryin to watch the ring ceremony on mlb.tv and everyone must be doing the same cuz it says the server is too busy to play in original form...The picture keeps freezing. They were lowering the banners and it the picture froze and I could hear everyone screaming. It's finally going smoothly...somewhat. I wish espn would jsut show it. Anyway...This is really cool.

[dmbbmd18]

http://antsmarching.org/forum/images/smilies/lol.gifThe poor bastards lost

[brydro]

Enjoy the ceremony Guys!

[slk11086]

that was fun to watch

[DMBfan41]

so sad i missed it, glad you guys had fun

[dmbnj79]

Damn. Where's Boston Rob?

[ProudestAnt]

Wells and Halama for Sheets...




I can wish, right?

[slk11086]

it was awesome, and extremely classy, you should have seen when Pesky got his ring... but they did boo every single player on the yankees except Tom Gordon (probably the best closer in our history)

[RhodyDMBFan]

I want wells' head on a stake

I thought he was going to be better then Pedro and such a bargain. Isn't that why you got him?

[Rob]

it was awesome, and extremely classy, you should have seen when Pesky got his ring... but they did boo every single player on the yankees except Tom Gordon (probably the best closer in our history)

Umm... By "our" history, I assume you mean Red Sox, and I think you're forgetting Lee Smith...

And they booed the balls off everybody but Mariano Rivera, who got the longest standing ovation of the day (including Pesky).

[slk11086]

I think Wells will be OK, I can't wait for Miller and Schill to come back

[Wildmoose31]

I thought he was going to be better then Pedro and such a bargain. Isn't that why you got him?
:lol Who said he was going to be better than pedro? every fan i talked to didnt like the move including me.

[swenny020]

And they booed the balls off everybody but Mariano Rivera, who got the longest standing ovation of the day (including Pesky).

hehhe, I enjoyed that.

[slk11086]

do you know who they will move to the BP when they come back???

Schilling
Wells
Miller
Clement
Bronson
Wake

????

[Rob]

Beginning of the season it was supposed to be Arroyo, but the way Clement is going...

[Rob]

My personal preference, btw, would be Wakefield- he's the perfect long reliever, can go anytime, and can throw all freaking day.

[slk11086]

Umm... By "our" history, I assume you mean Red Sox, and I think you're forgetting Lee Smith...

And they booed the balls off everybody but Mariano Rivera, who got the longest standing ovation of the day (including Pesky).


Flash got a good ovation for being a Yankee, and Gordon holds /held the record for consecutive saves for the Red Sox/ league, I remember going to games during that streak

Pitched in 21 regular-season games and five in the postseason for Boston...was on the 15-day disabled list from 4/18-5/10 and 6/12-9/27 with a strained right elbow...began the season by converting first 11 save opportunities, extending his streak to a major-league record 54...compiled a 2.08 ERA with a .174 opponents average through 5/31...was placed on disabled list after allowing four runs in two-game span from 6/5-11...underwent reconstructive surgery on right elbow on 12/13 in a procedure performed by Dr. Lewis Yocum.

[RhodyDMBFan]

:lol Who said he was going to be better than pedro? every fan i talked to didnt like the move including me.

OK maybe not better, but all my sox fan friends were saying how Wells/Clement will do just as well as Pedro/Lowe.

[RhodyDMBFan]

do you know who they will move to the BP when they come back???

Schilling
Wells
Miller
Clement
Bronson
Wake

????

Why wouldn't they start Miller in the bullpen, ease him back into the big leagues?

[slk11086]

Miller is a great pitcher and they could start him in the bp, but no matter what either bronson or wake is going to end up in the bullpen

[MidasMulligan]

Wonder where all the Yankee fans that hang around this thread are...

Meanwhile the Yankee thread is on page 5. Any correlation?

[DMBfan41]

Wonder where all the Yankee fans that hang around this thread are...

Meanwhile the Yankee thread is on page 5. Any correlation?

2-5....not much to be proud of

[redsoxiluv]

it was awesome, and extremely classy, you should have seen when Pesky got his ring... but they did boo every single player on the yankees except Tom Gordon (probably the best closer in our history)

Torre got applause, as did Rivera (for his "help" last week ;) )

and I was thrilled to see Pesky so included in the ceremony. After the previous ownership treated him so horribly, I was concerned that he would permanently turn his back on this team, but I'm glad he was able to put that behind him. To see him get a ring after coming so close in 1946 (and unjustly bearing the blame for the Enos Slaughter play) was truly heartwarming :)

[UJCdream]

Pesky is the man and every Sox fan knows that. And I'm glad to see that the players and owners have learned that as well.

it was great seeing D-Lowe and Roberts one more time, as well.

and Kevin Youkilis is a jackass.

[davehead34]

2-5....not much to be proud of

If you really want to start being a dick, I could bring up the fact that the '04 NY Yankees are synonymous with "choke artists" more than any indiviual or team in sports history. Yes, even more than Bill Buckner. :)

And it's wasn't 2-5, either. Have a nice day, Jar. :twak

[slk11086]

Pesky is the man and every Sox fan knows that. And I'm glad to see that the players and owners have learned that as well.

it was great seeing D-Lowe and Roberts one more time, as well.

and Kevin Youkilis is a jackass.


What did Youkilis do?

[UJCdream]

What did Youkilis do?
nothing super horrible... just being cocky saying that he's now 1 for 1 with World Series attempts, how he's the only undefeated player on the team and that they should keep him around because of it. and when talking about how great it was to see former teammates today, he mentioned D-Lowe, Curtis Leskanic and BRIAN Roberts (as opposed to Dave Roberts)

[dm40band]

If you really want to start being a dick, I could bring up the fact that the '04 NY Yankees are synonymous with "choke artists" more than any indiviual or team in sports history. Yes, even more than Bill Buckner. :)

And it's wasn't 2-5, either. Have a nice day, Jar. :twak

damn you fans will be bringing that up for the next 90 years!!! GET OVER IT!!! ITS ALREADY NEXT YEAR :lol

[dmbnj79]

Is anyone watching the Boston thing on ESPN right now?

[DMBfan41]

If you really want to start being a dick, I could bring up the fact that the '04 NY Yankees are synonymous with "choke artists" more than any indiviual or team in sports history. Yes, even more than Bill Buckner. :)

And it's wasn't 2-5, either. Have a nice day, Jar. :twak

:ugh i was talking about the mets

[ryguy178]

very enjoyable game today. Man was the crowd on the yankees today. The standing O for rivera? awesome. A-rod's errors and subsequent ridicule. very cool. winning 8-1 and getting world series rings? priceless.

[DMBfan41]

very enjoyable game today. Man was the crowd on the yankees today. The standing O for rivera? awesome. A-rod's errors and subsequent ridicule. very cool. winning 8-1 and getting world series rings? priceless.

and then Mariano stuck his hand in his pocket and took out 4 world series rings and realized he has almost as many rings as the red sox have championships ;)

[FPrefect61]

damn you fans will be bringing that up for the next 90 years!!! GET OVER IT!!! ITS ALREADY NEXT YEAR :lol
We've been dishing it on them for a long, long time, they deserve to heap as much of it back on us as they want.

I don't like it, it goes against the natural order of the universe, but the Sox are the champs, nothing can take that away from them.

I look at the Sox friends I have, and they remind me of myself when the Rangers won the Cup back in 94. It didn't matter that the Islanders won 4 in a row or that the Rangers have sinced sucked serious ass since then. Nothing will ever change that wonderful year, that wonderful team back in 1994.

[dmb1spe]

:thumbsup and then Mariano stuck his hand in his pocket and took out 4 world series rings and realized he has almost as many rings as the red sox have championships ;)

[DMBfan41]

We've been dishing it on them for a long, long time, they deserve to heap as much of it back on us as they want.

I don't like it, it goes against the natural order of the universe, but the Sox are the champs, nothing can take that away from them.

I look at the Sox friends I have, and they remind me of myself when the Rangers won the Cup back in 94. It didn't matter that the Islanders won 4 in a row or that the Rangers have sinced sucked serious ass since then. Nothing will ever change that wonderful year, that wonderful team back in 1994.

2048 my friend! 2048!

That is if there is still a hockey league

[FPrefect61]

:thumbsup
Making sure to have the ring from 1999 on his middle finger (the one they won by beating the Sox in the ALCS) :p

[slk11086]

We've been dishing it on them for a long, long time, they deserve to heap as much of it back on us as they want.

I don't like it, it goes against the natural order of the universe, but the Sox are the champs, nothing can take that away from them.

I look at the Sox friends I have, and they remind me of myself when the Rangers won the Cup back in 94. It didn't matter that the Islanders won 4 in a row or that the Rangers have sinced sucked serious ass since then. Nothing will ever change that wonderful year, that wonderful team back in 1994.


atleast you understand... I'm actually not a big fan of the booing for opposing teams... but the Mariano thing was funny

[ryguy178]

2048 my friend! 2048!

That is if there is still a hockey league

there already isn't a hockey league. :shrug

[redsoxiluv]

We've been dishing it on them for a long, long time, they deserve to heap as much of it back on us as they want.

I don't like it, it goes against the natural order of the universe, but the Sox are the champs, nothing can take that away from them.

I look at the Sox friends I have, and they remind me of myself when the Rangers won the Cup back in 94. It didn't matter that the Islanders won 4 in a row or that the Rangers have sinced sucked serious ass since then. Nothing will ever change that wonderful year, that wonderful team back in 1994.

I wish more Yankees fans had your attitude :)

edit: and you were *this* close to getting a rep point, then had to ruin it with that little '99 quip :twak

(oh who am I kidding...+1 anyway :lol )

[brydro]

Wonder where all the Yankee fans that hang around this thread are...

Meanwhile the Yankee thread is on page 5. Any correlation?

Uhh Genius, if you look back a few pages I actually told all the die hard sox fans to enjoy todays ceremony, we do have classy yankee fans. Check the thread some more before making a dumb ass comment. Some of us have lives outside a message board. Why would we hide? Because they handed out the championship rings...uhhh we know they won last October. Why because we lost the game? Umm only 150 plus games left! Not sweating the early season problems, as I am sure you are not either with the NEW mets! Try to stir up some shit. Your a Met fan. Your a Yankee hater. See I don't hate the Mets, I hate some of their fan base, They are the only fan base to talk shit, and never do anything on the field. The only fanbase to laugh at Yankee fans when we lost to the sox last year. Shit, atleast we were in it, the last 10 YEARS, I know you guys had that one great year, and then got your asses handed to you by the Yankees, and your friend Mariano Rivera.

[dmb1spe]

I can respect the Red Sox as an organization and most definitely as a fan base. My hatred of RSN is purely my competitve nature. The fans and the overall organization are great for baseball and the rivalry.

Whereas the Mets team could really be contracted and what? 7 people might give a shit? Doubt it.

[Hench]

I hate RSN too...they might as well call it BandWagon Nation...as blasphemous as it is for me to say, I can't wait for the sox to have a couple losing seasons now so they stop being so trendy and I can go to games again.

[Rob]

Read the new Bill Simmons article.

Now.

I'm not even linking you to it- it is your duty to go click it and read it for yourself.

"Seymour, Bruschi, Russel and Orr -- all that was missing was Vinatieri kicking the first pitch from Lansdowne Street."

[swenny020]

:thumbsup i love reading bill simmons columns.

[DMBfan41]

86 Things We Hate About You by David Schoenfield from Page 2

check this out

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=schoenfield/050412

[Rob]

That column was such crap

[DMBfan41]

That column was such crap

but he hates the Yankees, how could that be???

[Hench]

86 Things We Hate About You by David Schoenfield from Page 2

check this out

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=schoenfield/050412

sadly, I agree with most of that. the world series was heaven. the ensuing weeks-long wave of euphoria helped seal the deal for 2004 being one of the best years of my life.

but I officially got sick of the red sox just the other day, when in a three second span while paying at cvs, I saw johnny damon on the cover of entertainment weekly AND the tv guide. the excessive media coverage was dandy in the first few days of november. do we really need to equal it for the start of the season? with a team that I'm very skeptical of the reality of them even making to the postseason?

damon used to be my favorite sock (and that's well before everyone jumped on the johnny bandwagon solely cuz he decided to not cut his hair for a few months) but lately he's gotten pretty fucking obnoxious. he's going for 2005 curt schilling total over-exposure award. also, someone should let him know that no one is proud of his hot wife except for him.

EDIT: not to mention it's pathetic that he seems pretty proud of himself for cheating on his ex-wife. I give his current marriage 2-3 years.

[Hench]

and what's this happy horseshit?

http://shop.mlb.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1975911

wasn't there enough of a controversy over those "who's your daddy?" shirts to prevent mlb from hawking these??

[DMBfan41]

and what's this happy horseshit?

http://shop.mlb.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1975911

wasn't there enough of a controversy over those "who's your daddy?" shirts to prevent mlb from hawking these??

the idots won a world series, what do you care?

[redsoxiluv]

sadly, I agree with most of that. the world series was heaven. the ensuing weeks-long wave of euphoria helped seal the deal for 2004 being one of the best years of my life.

but I officially got sick of the red sox just the other day, when in a three second span while paying at cvs, I saw johnny damon on the cover of entertainment weekly AND the tv guide. the excessive media coverage was dandy in the first few days of november. do we really need to equal it for the start of the season? with a team that I'm very skeptical of the reality of them even making to the postseason?

damon used to be my favorite sock (and that's well before everyone jumped on the johnny bandwagon solely cuz he decided to not cut his hair for a few months) but lately he's gotten pretty fucking obnoxious. he's going for 2005 curt schilling total over-exposure award. also, someone should let him know that no one is proud of his hot wife except for him.

EDIT: not to mention it's pathetic that he seems pretty proud of himself for cheating on his ex-wife. I give his current marriage 2-3 years.

actually, that's the part that bothers me the most about the new johnny. and what if his poor children read that book one day? such a classless move all around.

[davehead34]

I hate RSN too...they might as well call it BandWagon Nation...as blasphemous as it is for me to say, I can't wait for the sox to have a couple losing seasons now so they stop being so trendy and I can go to games again.

Wow. I never thought you'd be the one to say something like that, Hench! I particularly like the idea of RSN. True - I live in SoCal, so I don't see the trendy mofos back in the NE that jump on the RSN bandwagon, but I love being able to go to a pub over here in downtown San Diego, walk in with my lucky Sox hat and have someone say "Welcome to RSN buddy!" That's a great feeling.

It's to be expected, though, that when teams win championships that people will jump on the wagon. It doesn't really help that the Pats happened to win the SB for the 3rd time in 4 years either this past season. Right now, Boston is the epicenter for sports fans. Everyone wishes thier team's city was Boston and it certainly has it's ups and downs. I'm going to suck it in and let it sit as long as it's gonna last, because it might not be like that forever. I'm proud (and extremely lucky) to be able to tell my kids that I saw the Red Sox and the Pats win thier respective championships within about four months of eachother.

And the Sports Guy's article kicked ass, as usual. That man is great. He an American Hero as far as I'm concerned.

[DMBfan41]

Wow. I never thought you'd be the one to say something like that, Hench! I particularly like the idea of RSN. True - I live in SoCal, so I don't see the trendy mofos back in the NE that jump on the RSN bandwagon, but I love being able to go to a pub over here in downtown San Diego, walk in with my lucky Sox hat and have someone say "Welcome to RSN buddy!" That's a great feeling.

It's to be expected, though, that when teams win championships that people will jump on the wagon. It doesn't really help that the Pats happened to win the SB for the 3rd time in 4 years either this past season. Right now, Boston is the epicenter for sports fans. Everyone wishes thier team's city was Boston and it certainly has it's ups and downs. I'm going to suck it in and let it sit as long as it's gonna last, because it might not be like that forever. I'm proud (and extremely lucky) to be able to tell my kids that I saw the Red Sox and the Pats win thier respective championships within about four months of eachother.

And the Sports Guy's article kicked ass, as usual. That man is great. He an American Hero as far as I'm concerned.

hmm, i must say, don't want my team being Boston. I already gotta wait 54 years to see the Rangers win, I'd hate to see the Yankees win every 86 years

[ryguy178]

I'd just like to weigh in and say I've lost a lot of respect for Johnny as a person. I read his book, I've seen some recent interviews, and i've decided this whole marriage saga etc. has been decidedly unclassy.

[Hench]

I'd just like to weigh in and say I've lost a lot of respect for Johnny as a person. I read his book, I've seen some recent interviews, and i've decided this whole marriage saga etc. has been decidedly unclassy.

He was signing autographs today at the barnes and noble 10 minutes from where I'm currently sitting. I had nothing to do at the time. I also had no desire to go meet him. Part of that is I wasn't sure if you had to buy his book to get in line to meet him, and I have no desire to buy the book, but that's beside the point. A year ago I would have gone anyway in hopes of just being able to shake his hand. My displeasure with the "new Johnny" made me completely indifferent. He's still an amazing ballplayer, but I must say I'm almost starting to regret the Damon shirt I bought the other week...at Marshall's...for 12 dollars. :lol

Before the season, I was certain his personal life would affect his play. It hasn't yet, but whether it will or not remains to be seen. :shrug

[Hench]

the idots won a world series, what do you care?

because all it does is perpetuates the animosity between the two fan bases.

EDIT: would you be pleased if MLB was selling those "New York Chokees" shirts? if unemployed morons wanna make those types of shirts to sell outside the ballpark, whatever. mlb should not be endorsing that kind of shit.

[DMBfan41]

because all it does is perpetuates the animosity between the two fan bases.

EDIT: would you be pleased if MLB was selling those "New York Chokees" shirts? if unemployed morons wanna make those types of shirts to sell outside the ballpark, whatever. mlb should not be endorsing that kind of shit.

it wouldn't be any different if they didn't sell the shirts. But, if that had the Chokees shirts, Sox fans would be buying it like crazy

[dmb1spe]

And don't the Red Sox like that nickname? It would be hard to argue it's offensive when your own team comes up with it.

[davehead34]

hmm, i must say, don't want my team being Boston. I already gotta wait 54 years to see the Rangers win, I'd hate to see the Yankees win every 86 years

I think you're probably missing the ponit...

As I previously mentioned, Boston is home to two champions - the Boston Red Sox and the New England Patriots. Therefore, most people relate Boston to sports (I'm not saying everybody, just MOST people).

I can tell you what - I sure as hell don't want NYC being my team's city. I know of MANY people that equate NYC to "choke artist capitol of the world." Additionally, you're football teams are a weak joke, at best.

[davehead34]

it wouldn't be any different if they didn't sell the shirts. But, if that had the Chokees shirts, Sox fans would be buying it like crazy

I would fill up a U-Haul with them and give them away on the streets.

[Hench]

it wouldn't be any different if they didn't sell the shirts. But, if that had the Chokees shirts, Sox fans would be buying it like crazy

that's not the point.

[brydro]

I would fill up a U-Haul with them and give them away on the streets.

San Diego has that many sox fans? I was out in Cali in January and I did see a lot of sox fans in LA, San Diego the same way?

[redsoxiluv]

I'd just like to weigh in and say I've lost a lot of respect for Johnny as a person. I read his book, I've seen some recent interviews, and i've decided this whole marriage saga etc. has been decidedly unclassy.

:thumbsup and it's so hard to see players I used to like and respect coming out with stuff like that.

a similar phenomenon occurred after David Wells' book was released (in which he describes pitching his perfect game "half drunk" :rolleyes) -- but at least I wasn't fooled into thinking Wells was a good person before this disclosure. But Johnny? totally had me believing he was a decent guy. sigh.

[Hench]

San Diego has that many sox fans? I was out in Cali in January and I did see a lot of sox fans in LA, San Diego the same way?

they're everywhere. whenever I go home to chicago, I see more red sox hats than white sox and cubs hats combined. which kinda sucks.

[Hench]

:thumbsup and it's so hard to see players I used to like and respect coming out with stuff like that.

a similar phenomenon occurred after David Wells' book was released (in which he describes pitching his perfect game "half drunk" :rolleyes) -- but at least I wasn't fooled into thinking Wells was a good person before this disclosure. But Johnny? totally had me believing he was a decent guy. sigh.

pitching a game half-drunk doesn't make him a bad person. at least he can go out and party and then get the job done the next day (unlike a certain derek against the yanks last sept.)...even though wells hasn't actually PROVED this yet...:rolleyes

[redsoxiluv]

pitching a game half-drunk doesn't make him a bad person. at least he can go out and party and then get the job done the next day (unlike a certain derek against the yanks last sept.)...even though wells hasn't actually PROVED this yet...:rolleyes

It wasn't just that...there was a reason the Yankees fined him -- what was it, $100,000? -- for the things he wrote.

but good point about lowe. good riddance.

[brydro]

they're everywhere. whenever I go home to chicago, I see more red sox hats than white sox and cubs hats combined. which kinda sucks.

Yeah every morning when I get out of Penn Station, I am really in disbelief that I see tons of Suits wearing Sox hats, it amazes me, not because I am a Yankee fan, but for the simple fact of I am in NYC you know? There are two baseball teams in this city with huge fan bases. Half of them are Mets fans because they have to root for someone that beats the yankees. Last year I had Met fans at work making fun of the choke, and they told me they are Met-Sox fans..lol..they were serious too.

[ryguy178]

Yeah every morning when I get out of Penn Station, I am really in disbelief that I see tons of Suits wearing Sox hats, it amazes me, not because I am a Yankee fan, but for the simple fact of I am in NYC you know?

Its funny you say this...my brother has worked as a lawyer in downtown Boston for the last several years, and one of the things that struck him when he first got really involved in the Business world of Downtown Boston was how many professionals he would see in suits w/breifcases etc. wearing a ratty Sox hat. People would come into his building all the time wearing a Sox hat... Its like every grown man in Boston wears his Sox hat around, no matter how inappropriate the situation.

[Hench]

apparently bronson's a common scumbag too. despite his wife, word is he's fucking this freshman at my school:

http://community.webshots.com/album/266979252BrMfVD

and katie, when you see this, check the pic in the bottom left hand corner. apparently your idol lenny is not above the college freshmen fun either.

[DMBfan41]

I think you're probably missing the ponit...

As I previously mentioned, Boston is home to two champions - the Boston Red Sox and the New England Patriots. Therefore, most people relate Boston to sports (I'm not saying everybody, just MOST people).

I can tell you what - I sure as hell don't want NYC being my team's city. I know of MANY people that equate NYC to "choke artist capitol of the world." Additionally, you're football teams are a weak joke, at best.

give it up man, the choke thing is useless and pathetic. We have too much greatness to think about just one season

[davehead34]

:lol I would gladly drop it but you guys continually had to pester us with that god awful "1918" chant. I suppose there's not much to be said for about originality...

[ryguy178]

apparently bronson's a common scumbag too. despite his wife, word is he's fucking this freshman at my school:

http://community.webshots.com/album/266979252BrMfVD

and katie, when you see this, check the pic in the bottom left hand corner. apparently your idol lenny is not above the college freshmen fun either.

wow, lucky guy.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/266979252/269054053WNcRYK

That's weird, i'm looking at him on TV now pitching, and then looking at him in this pic...

[davehead34]

apparently bronson's a common scumbag too. despite his wife, word is he's fucking this freshman at my school

Hey, Bronson's got more soul than any white guy I've ever seen in my life. Gotta give him some props for that.

[DMBfan41]

:lol I would gladly drop it but you guys continually had to pester us with that god awful "1918" chant. I suppose there's not much to be said for about originality...

Hey, you could have been proud of your titles and cared less about those chants.

[dmb1spe]

Berman on Frnachona getting tossed:

"I can read lips, and I think he said 'I'm displeased with your plate calling'".

I can read lips too (somewhat) and it sure looked to me like that wasn't his verbage of choice. ;)

[davehead34]

Hey, you could have been proud of your titles and cared less about those chants.

Just curious - but what specifically did you mean by titles?

The point I was trying to convey was that why can't we call you the biggest choke artists in history if Yankees fans were able to get away with saying "1918" for 86 years?

What - you don't think we have a right? :ugh Please, fill me in here because I'm a bit lost right now...

[dmb1spe]

The only thing Yankee fans have to come back with is 26-1. That shut shut a fan up fairly quickly.

[davehead34]

Berman on Frnachona getting tossed:

"I can read lips, and I think he said 'I'm displeased with your plate calling'".

I can read lips too (somewhat) and it sure looked to me like that wasn't his verbage of choice. ;)

:thumbsup

Now that's what I'm talkin about ;)

[dmb1spe]

I believe the words Fucker, Motherfucker, and Fuck You were tossed around like candy on Halloween.

[ryguy178]

I believe the words Fucker, Motherfucker, and Fuck You were tossed around like candy on Halloween.

I always wanted to get into an argument with an ump like that. It seems so therapudic. And theres really no other situation you can go off on someone like that and the physically can't touch you.

[dmb1spe]

Maybe at a fast food place a la Ron Farva.

"It's french for give me some god damn cola you fucking burger punk"

[DMBfan41]

Just curious - but what specifically did you mean by titles?

The point I was trying to convey was that why can't we call you the biggest choke artists in history if Yankees fans were able to get away with saying "1918" for 86 years?

What - you don't think we have a right? :ugh Please, fill me in here because I'm a bit lost right now...

you could have been proud of those 5 World Series Titles from 1900-1918. You didn't have to be offended by chants of 1918.

You have a right, i'm just trying to save you the embarassment. Being called the biggest choke artists in history does nothing to us because over the past 10 years, the yankees have been the most successful team.

So you can call them the biggest chokers all you want. But, I'd say most fans are still happy with the fact they have 4 championships and 6 pennants since 1996

[dmb1spe]

*raises hand*

I'm happy with that.

[DMBfan41]

absolutely tasteless

[ryguy178]

wow.

embarassing.

[ryguy178]

great...now something else ESPN can hype "the rivalry" about for endless times now...

[dmb1spe]

that was bad... real bad. glad to see the dude get the boot.

[tdowe99]

Did you see the guy behind those two ladies throw the beer?
At first I thought it was knocked down in the strugle, but no, it's thrown.

[ryguy178]

Did you see the guy behind those two ladies throw the beer?
At first I thought it was knocked down in the strugle, but no, it's thrown.

Then when sheff went after the guy the guy that threw the beer recoiled in fear.

[ProudestAnt]

The beer wasn't thrown, Sheff knocked it down when he threw the punch. Totally uncalled for on both sides...

[dmb1spe]

regardless of your team, fans need to stay the heck out of play. if that was at yankee stadium it would be just as bad.

[ProudestAnt]

regardless of your team, fans need to stay the heck out of play. if that was at yankee stadium it would be just as bad.:thumbsup...

[dmb1spe]

Maybe this could be a new curse... The curse of the slapped hat... or the curse of the dumped beer.

[ryguy178]

Maybe this could be a new curse... The curse of the slapped hat... or the curse of the dumped beer.


shh...we still got it. that is if he doesn't load the bases with no one out.

[ExistenceNow]

i'm thinking a 4-6-3 dp right about now...

[ExistenceNow]

that'll work too.

[dmb1spe]

piss poor showing from the bombers tonight. bad patience at the plate and horrible with RISP. Well... see you guys in May.

[Rob]

I'm not convinced the guy was swiping at Sheffield... Yet. I'm certainly open to the possibility, but don't you usually look at the guy you're going to hit? The guy shouldn't have been over the wall at all, but it's possible the guy was yelling at the other fans hanging over the wall. The NESN announcers, Remy and Orsillo, initially condemned the man, essentially to death, but after watching the replays they weren't so sure it was a malicious act. What did you guys see on ESPN?

[ryguy178]

I'm not convinced the guy was swiping at Sheffield... Yet. I'm certainly open to the possibility, but don't you usually look at the guy you're going to hit? The guy shouldn't have been over the wall at all, but it's possible the guy was yelling at the other fans hanging over the wall. The NESN announcers, Remy and Orsillo, initially condemned the man, essentially to death, but after watching the replays they weren't so sure it was a malicious act. What did you guys see on ESPN?

I watched it on NESN too...but i'm sure ESPN sensationalized it beyond belief.

[ExistenceNow]

I'm not convinced the guy was swiping at Sheffield... Yet. I'm certainly open to the possibility, but don't you usually look at the guy you're going to hit? The guy shouldn't have been over the wall at all, but it's possible the guy was yelling at the other fans hanging over the wall. The NESN announcers, Remy and Orsillo, initially condemned the man, essentially to death, but after watching the replays they weren't so sure it was a malicious act. What did you guys see on ESPN?

i think it was just general swipe... like maybe at the ball... it certainly didn't look like he was trying to hit Gary... cuz like you said, he wasn't really even looking at him... that security guard was a bad ass though.. .johnny on the fucking spot.

[ryguy178]

i think it was just general swipe... like maybe at the ball... it certainly didn't look like he was trying to hit Gary... cuz like you said, he wasn't really even looking at him... that security guard was a bad ass though.. .johnny on the fucking spot.

the security guard looked 15.

[ProudestAnt]

I'm not convinced the guy was swiping at Sheffield... Yet. I'm certainly open to the possibility, but don't you usually look at the guy you're going to hit? The guy shouldn't have been over the wall at all, but it's possible the guy was yelling at the other fans hanging over the wall. The NESN announcers, Remy and Orsillo, initially condemned the man, essentially to death, but after watching the replays they weren't so sure it was a malicious act. What did you guys see on ESPN?I saw it on YES, and it looks like the guy was waving his hand at the fans hanging over the fence and just got too close to Sheff. Then Sheff definitely threw a punch and inadvertantly hit the lady in front of the guy. Just a bad showing on both ends...

[ExistenceNow]

I watched it on NESN too...but i'm sure ESPN sensationalized it beyond belief.

no not really... they initially were all over it, but in the post game, they exonnerated the guy and just praised the security guard.

[Rob]

The fan certainly wasn't going for the ball- he wasn't reaching down for it.

[ProudestAnt]

no not really... they initially were all over it, but in the post game, they exonnerated the guy and just praised the security guard.I got the damn Indians v. White Sox game, freaking ESPN...

[ExistenceNow]

The fan certainly wasn't going for the ball- he wasn't reaching down for it.

not going for it, but just kinda swiping like, damn i can't reach it...

[ExistenceNow]

I got the damn Indians v. White Sox game, freaking ESPN...

oh that's fucking WEAK

[bdb23]

Fucking baseball fans (lately Boston fans) are complete morons. I wish Sheffield would have popped that chowderhead right in the mouth.

[ExistenceNow]

I saw it on YES, and it looks like the guy was waving his hand at the fans hanging over the fence and just got too close to Sheff. Then Sheff definitely threw a punch and inadvertantly hit the lady in front of the guy. Just a bad showing on both ends...

i really think it was just a misunderstanding, and i hope the media doesn't crucify anyone... i look forward to hearing a statement from the fan (hopefully he will give one.)

[Rob]

At any rate, we've had our worst umpiring of this short season so far. This guy was just disgraceful.

[Rob]

Fucking baseball fans (lately Boston fans) are complete morons. I wish Sheffield would have popped that chowderhead right in the mouth.

Choke. If anybody should be beaten, it should be your boy with the roid rage in right field.

Two cheaters on the same team, and no repercussions. Horseshit.

[bdb23]

Baseball tonight is actually spinning the incident very well. RESPECT THE GAME IDIOTS!!!

[bdb23]

Choke. If anybody should be beaten, it should be your boy with the roid rage in right field.

Two cheaters on the same team, and no repercussions. Horseshit.
:lorraine :lorraine

[ProudestAnt]

Choke. If anybody should be beaten, it should be your boy with the roid rage in right field.

Two cheaters on the same team, and no repercussions. Horseshit.:thumbsup

[Rob]

Wow. Looks like Sheff ain't the only one suffering from 'Roid Rage.

[bdb23]

I'd like to see anyone beat my boy (??) Sheffield. Only a drunk ass from Boston would even try. Roids or not, that was one dumb, ignorant fan.

[Rob]

Nope. Looks more and more like that was a fan just being a fan. Sheffield overreacted, probably due to the explosive hormones surging through his body as a result of the illegal augmentation regimine he underwent. Looks like you're just another dumb, ignorant Yankees fan grasping at straws.

The Yanks sure like to overreact... ARod last year, playing the "hold me back" game before Tek grounded him... ARod slapping the ball away from Arroyo like the faggot he is... At least Rivera had the class to laugh about how much he's sucked as of late.

[ExistenceNow]

I'd like to see anyone beat my boy (??) Sheffield. Only a drunk ass from Boston would even try. Roids or not, that was one dumb, ignorant fan.

what??? are you seriously trying to say that the fan was trying to fight him?? as stated earlier... if you are trying to hit someone, usually you are looking at them.

edit: i give props to Rivera for being a class act... and i should mention that I am only sox fan by default... i am a braves fan, so the truism stands, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

[Wildmoose31]

:bounce I just got back to the game, best game ive ever been too, a little cold. Would have been perfect had it not been for these drunk UGLY chicks in front of us nearly diking it out

[Wildmoose31]

At any rate, we've had our worst umpiring of this short season so far. This guy was just disgraceful.
:thumbsup It was nice to see terry and the coaches get pissed off

[Buffalo JR/HA]

Nope. Looks more and more like that was a fan just being a fan. Sheffield overreacted, probably due to the explosive hormones surging through his body as a result of the illegal augmentation regimine he underwent. Looks like you're just another dumb, ignorant Yankees fan grasping at straws.

The Yanks sure like to overreact... ARod last year, playing the "hold me back" game before Tek grounded him... ARod slapping the ball away from Arroyo like the faggot he is... At least Rivera had the class to laugh about how much he's sucked as of late.

Ok how bout I come to your job...take a swipe when your not looking...and then you stand there and do nothing, as my friend throws a coffee on you.

[Rob]

Yeah. 'Cause he took a swipe at him.

Get the fuck over yourselves. If he was going to hit Sheffield, he would have fucking hit him. Open hand, slow swipe. Drunk swipe at the ball? Maybe. Calling out the other fans? Maybe. A shot at Sheffield? Fuck no. If that actually hurt Sheff, he's an even bigger pussy than he originally appeared at his roid rage reaction.

[ProudestAnt]

Ok how bout I come to your job...take a swipe when your not looking...and then you stand there and do nothing, as my friend throws a coffee on you.Shut up, it's completely different. First, it wasn't a swipe because the guy wasn't even looking at Sheff. Second, Sheff didn't stand there and do nothing, the threw a punch. Third, the beer wasn't thrown, it was knocked out of the guy's hand...

[Wildmoose31]

It tipped his hat, its not like he slugged him, sheffield took the time to swing at him before even throwing the ball back. Totally over reacting

[Buffalo JR/HA]

The guy touched him none the less. The beer was THROWN and Sheff should get credit for not knocking the guys teeth out

[Rob]

Right. The beer was THROWN by a woman falling backwards in her chair, intentionally and deliberately.

Does ignorance hurt, or is it just a tingling in the extremeties?

[Buffalo JR/HA]

Okay watch the damn footage. YES slowed it down and the guy dumps the f'ing beer on him you retard.

[Rob]

I'll take that as a "tingling in the extremeties," and by "extremeties" I mean "eyes," and by "tingling" I mean "blindness."

[twosteppn36]

Okay watch the damn footage. YES slowed it down and the guy dumps the f'ing beer on him you retard.


sheffield went to push the guy, smacked the beer that the lady was holding, and it dumped (she looked pissed) :lol

[Buffalo JR/HA]

again watch before you speak. The guy dumps the beer..watch Sportscenter.

[twosteppn36]

again watch before you speak. The guy dumps the beer..watch Sportscenter.


he wasnt holding a beer....the two ladies next to him were....like you said, watch before you speak

[Rob]

I have it' TIVO'd, actually. I can watch it whenever I want, from several different angles and magnifications.

[ryguy178]

definately the guy was the beer thrower

[FunkyTeaParty]

the guy next to the two chicks clearly dumps his beer on Sheff. It's not even open for debate.

[Rob]

Wow.

[Buffalo JR/HA]

Thanks..your right ryguy..its coming up on SportsCenter..watch and you'll see im right.

[dmb1spe]

the guy that threw the beer isn't the guy that swiped at the ball/sheff. It's the guy 2 down from that dude (past the 2 chicks with beer)

[Rob]

No, you're still blind. Kudos, however, on overcoming your handicap and posting on a message board.

[ryguy178]

No, you're still blind. Kudos, however, on overcoming your handicap and posting on a message board.

..::.''.:'.::..'.::

[ryguy178]

I stand corrected it was the woman in the black jacket whos arm was tucked behind the other woman.

[dmb1spe]

No, you're still blind. Kudos, however, on overcoming your handicap and posting on a message board.

How come everyone else's opinion is wrong except yours? Typical New England asshole mentality. Shouldn't you still be pining that W won in November?

[FunkyTeaParty]

the guy in the frat sweatshirt threw his beer.......no doubt

[Wildmoose31]

on a random note,
one little geeky kid who was a sox fan with his girlfriend who is a loud a yankee fan was just about to go fight this guy a few rows down near me, he was shouting in his high pitched voice "its just a fucking game", until his ugly gf who could probably beat him up held him back

[Buffalo JR/HA]

Yeah the guy is not the same..but this moron is blaming it on the stupid lady next to him when the guy obviously dumped it.

[ryguy178]

Yeah the guy is not the same..but this moron is blaming it on the stupid lady next to him when the guy obviously dumped it.
at first i agreed, after seeing the replay, i disagree. the woman who spilled the beer had her arm wrapped around the back of the other woman and it came out between her and the guy so it appeared to be the guys hand, but it was the woman.

"There had to be a secon spitter!"

[ProudestAnt]

When the lady who Sheffield inadvertantly hit fell backwards, she hit the guys arm, causing him to drop his beer...

[Buffalo JR/HA]

you are all stupid. It was just on..the asshole dumps the beer.

[ProudestAnt]

you are all stupid. It was just on..the asshole dumps the beer.Glad you're being mature about the discussion. Way to use name-calling...

[Buffalo JR/HA]

I have ot be immature to talk to some of the people on this threas... some of you are trying to come up with some far fetched answer to defend someone who without question dumps a beer.

[twosteppn36]

you are all stupid. It was just on..the asshole dumps the beer.


no need to throw a hissy fit

[ProudestAnt]

I have ot be immature to talk to some of the people on this threas... some of you are trying to come up with some far fetched answer to defend someone who without question dumps a beer.He didn't dump the beer. Making up far-fetched answers has nothing to do with maturity. When you resort to name-calling, you only make yourself look bad. As a Buffalonian, have some class...

[Buffalo JR/HA]

I do have class..and I also have the right to call someone an asshole when they try to show me up.

[ProudestAnt]

I do have class..and I also have the right to call someone an asshole when they try to show me up.You called the beer "dumper" an asshole, you called everyone else on this thread stupid and retarded. That's not classy, that's juvenile...

[ryguy178]

...wow. just, wow.

[twosteppn36]

...wow. just, wow.

:lol :lol

[Buffalo JR/HA]

Okay, I really don't care to here your opinion of me. Clearly you know so much about me from one thread posting.

[ProudestAnt]

I just watched it again...Sheffield threw a punch and inadvertantly hit a woman who fell into a guy wearing a blue sweatshirt who had just gotten done drinking his beer. The guy then dropped the beer and fell down...

[ProudestAnt]

Okay, I really don't care to here your opinion of me. Clearly you know so much about me from one thread posting.You're being classless in the thread. You may be a classy person, but you're not showing that in this thread. Plain and simple, you went from a semi-civilized argument and turned it into name-calling...

[Buffalo JR/HA]

ok and your incorrect again. The guy that dumps the beer is in a light colored hoodie... as the woman is falling back..he does not get pushed by Sheff..he dumps the beer on him and cowers away so that he does not get thrown out. He dumps it period.

[FunkyTeaParty]

I just watched it again...Sheffield threw a punch and inadvertantly hit a woman who fell into a guy wearing a blue sweatshirt who had just gotten done drinking his beer. The guy then dropped the beer and fell down...

Did you really see this? What shade of rose are your glasses?

Sheffield never threw a punch and they guy in the frat sweatshirt flicked his beer onto Sheffield. He was being pushed back by the crowd and the beer went forward because he propelled it with a flick of the wrist. It's really pretty clear once you've seen it a few times.

[Buffalo JR/HA]

Did you really see this? What shade of rose are your glasses?

Sheffield never threw a punch and they guy in the frat sweatshirt flicked his beer onto Sheffield. He was being pushed back by the crowd and the beer went forward because he propelled it with a flick of the wrist. It's really pretty clear once you've seen it a few times.

I appreciate you telling it how it is.

[redsoxiluv]

apparently bronson's a common scumbag too. despite his wife, word is he's fucking this freshman at my school:

http://community.webshots.com/album/266979252BrMfVD

and katie, when you see this, check the pic in the bottom left hand corner. apparently your idol lenny is not above the college freshmen fun either.

:( it's so depressing when a player I'm fond of turns out to be someone completely different...first, shea hillenbrand's vocal departure (with his homophobic and theo-bashing remarks :mad ), then nomar, then pedro, damon, and now those two?

but i'll have you note that my "idol" is certainly not lenny (though admittedly he is one of the more attractive sox)...but look at the avatar (and my facebook group :) ) for goodness sake.

and if there's one sox person i think I can have faith in, it has to be theo.

[Buffalo JR/HA]

uh ok...now theres pictures of Bronson and his woman like hair..im out.

[ryguy178]

and if there's one sox person i think I can have faith in, it has to be theo.

wait till Theo's S&M photo's surface.

..kidding, in Theo i trust.


Bronson's girl is pretty hot tho...

[dmb1spe]

At least he got rid of the cornrows.

[Wildmoose31]

Im losing trust in little theo there, lose lowe and pedro, get Wells, Clement and Wade Miller? doesnt work for me, especially after winning a world series

[DMBfan41]

So whose bought Bronson's album yet. Hmm, singing that Boston's his home.

I guess he forgot that he's from FLORIDA!

[dmb1spe]

With the hairdo from last year I figured he was from straight outta Compton

[davehead34]

you could have been proud of those 5 World Series Titles from 1900-1918. You didn't have to be offended by chants of 1918.

You have a right, i'm just trying to save you the embarassment. Being called the biggest choke artists in history does nothing to us because over the past 10 years, the yankees have been the most successful team.

So you can call them the biggest chokers all you want. But, I'd say most fans are still happy with the fact they have 4 championships and 6 pennants since 1996

Don't worry, Jar - I don't get offended by the 1918 chants; however, they did get old. I'm they were pretty cool for the first 50 years or so, but it just got a little bland for the next 36. I can't wait till you guys start yelling "2004 - 2004..."

And I appreciate you saving me the embarrassment. Nothing's worse than having some Yankees fan in the internet try to embarrass me. Good lookin bro :thumbsup

And let me thank you for giving me the :thumbsup on calling the '04 Yankees the biggest choke team in history. SI, ESPN, Fox, CBS, ABC all gave me the green light, but I was totally waiting on you. I bet NY fans are pleased with winning a bunch of pennants and championships. I would love to have all those titles, but I'm just as content being a Boston fan and having won last year's WS. Yeah, being a Yankees fan must be great - all those championships and victories. But I promise you it's more fun to hate them than to like them. It must be cool having immature pricks like A-Rod and Posada on there. Oh and Giambi's great! I mean shit, if the Giants can have a home run hitting steriod freak like Bonds, then why can't the Yankees have one too?! Gotta love them Yanks...

[bdb23]

I appreciate you telling it how it is.
:thumbsup Convenient how some people in this thread just disappear *coughRobcough* when the replays are shown over and over. I can see how frustrating it is when you are trying to respond to someone who disagrees just to disagree.

[Rob]

Right, douchebag. It's called "bed." I disappeared my ass.

I have people agreeing with me that it wasn't the fucking guy throwing the beer on Captain Roid Rage, or did you selectively miss that?

The chant has been wrong all along- it's not "Yankees suck." It should have something to do with their rotten, spoiled fairweather fans.

[FunkyTeaParty]

We are not rotten!!

[brydro]

Ok, I do not believe the fan was trying to punch sheff, I believe he was drunk and trying to pick up the ball, grazed sheffs face, and interfered with the play, not like it mattered, they yanks still didnt score enough runs to come back. But the bottom line is, its interference, and fans need to stay out of the way. Sheff got pissed, maybe a lil too pissed, but fans have no right to be trying to pick up a baseball in play with a player trying to get the ball...It was right to boot the fan. I think fenway is an amazing park, I really do, but times have changed, that wall is a lil too low in my opinion.

[Rob]

Thank you for your rationality. Fan interference has no real deterrant, and I'd be 100% for arrest for so much as a fan touching a ball in live play. There's no defense for the fan being over the wall in that situation, and I never defended him. He didn't try to clock Sheffield, however, and Sheff's being flaunted as the "injured" party, here, and that's horseshit. On Baseball Tonight, they praised Sheffield for not hitting the guy. The only reason he didn't is the fact the guy backpedaled out of the way. Had Sheff landed that haymaker it'd be a totally different story this morning, and Sheff would have been no different than Ron Artest (he still isn't in my eyes).

[bdb23]

11:30 after the replays were all over the place and impartial parties said he got beer poured on him is very convenient in the middle of your handicapped rant. Whether he was going for Sheff intentionally or not, he still struck a player while he was trying to field a ball. I've been in those seats in the corner (not for a Yankees game) and the fans aren't the most cordial. Not that that is an excuse for Sheff, but I'm sure that was part of the problem. Heckled all night then knocked in the head during the late stages of a then close game.

[dmb1spe]

I'm curious why the didn't freeze the runners. Isn't fan interference a dead ball?

[dmb1spe]

Thank you for your rationality. Fan interference has no real deterrant, and I'd be 100% for arrest for so much as a fan touching a ball in live play. There's no defense for the fan being over the wall in that situation, and I never defended him. He didn't try to clock Sheffield, however, and Sheff's being flaunted as the "injured" party, here, and that's horseshit. On Baseball Tonight, they praised Sheffield for not hitting the guy. The only reason he didn't is the fact the guy backpedaled out of the way. Had Sheff landed that haymaker it'd be a totally different story this morning, and Sheff would have been no different than Ron Artest (he still isn't in my eyes).


I'm quite sure that if it was Ortiz at the Stadium who took a punch at the Yankee fans, you'd be saying how valiant it was to stand up for your team and not put up with thos "spoiled" Yankee fans. Please... spare me the holier than thou mentality you exude on here everyday.

[bdb23]

I'm quite sure that if it was Ortiz at the Stadium who took a punch at the Yankee fans, you'd be saying how valiant it was to stand up for your team and not put up with thos "spoiled" Yankee fans. Please... spare me the holier than thou mentality you exude on here everyday.
:thumbsup

[Hench]

http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view.bg?articleid=78597

wow, the guy's OWN FIANCEE is sticking up for him...who woulda thunk it?

I love it that the only two people's opinions in the article are the woman who loves him who (from what I read into it) wasn't even AT the game...and a 16 year old girl. lordy I hate the herald.

keep in mind that this is a paper we used to get at my school for free until WE refused to accept it after they ran extremely graphic photos of the girl who was killed at the riots after the sox beat the yanks in the alcs. we now thankfully get the globe, and none of the spin like that BS article. sorry for the tangent...

as for the incident, I've had some time to sleep on it, and I still have to side with sheff. accident or not, he shouldn't have even been leaning over. you stay out of the playing area, period. he saw that ball coming and had more than enough time to back away. if that was me I certainly wouldn't have wanted to get in the way of sheff barreling towards me...he's not exactly known for being a shrinking violet. when I saw it happen watching the game all I could say was "what a scumbag!", but after seeing the whole deal, the scumbag was clearly the fan.

best game of the season so far. drama, tension, fireworks...and the boston win (against old man johnson no less). sweet.

[FunkyTeaParty]

We don't have to deal in hypotheticals. Jim Rice went into the crowd at Yankee Stadium after a fan stole his hat when it fell off when he dove for a ball down the left field line in the late 80s, but I'm sure Rice is a great guy.

[davehead34]

Right, douchebag. It's called "bed." I disappeared my ass.

I have people agreeing with me that it wasn't the fucking guy throwing the beer on Captain Roid Rage, or did you selectively miss that?

The chant has been wrong all along- it's not "Yankees suck." It should have something to do with their rotten, spoiled fairweather fans.

:lol Alright fellas! Let's try to bring the hostility to a minimal level here. I don't know why we're all so tense - WE JUST BEAT THE DAMN YANKEES! :monkey :hump

[brydro]

:lol Alright fellas! Let's try to bring the hostility to a minimal level here. I don't know why we're all so tense - WE JUST BEAT THE DAMN YANKEES! :monkey :hump


In april dude..your still 1 game under .500 just like us...relax, it's not October. :monkey

[davehead34]

In april dude..your still 1 game under .500 just like us...relax, it's not October. :monkey

Sorry. The aftereffect of beating the Yankees hasn't quite worn off, yet. It usually takes a day or so. God I can't wait till October! October and August are the best months of the year. Playoffs in October, DMB in August. Life's a bitch in between.

[lillerfm]

Just bouncing in here from the Indians thread to say that Gary Sheffield is a little bitch.

That is all.

[brydro]

Just bouncing in here from the Indians thread to say that Gary Sheffield is a little bitch.

That is all.

See you in October, Oh thats right... :hump

[bdb23]

See you in October, Oh thats right... :hump
:lol :lol

[lillerfm]

See you in October, Oh thats right... :hump

Whatever...he's still a little crybaby bitch.

Looked like 'roid rage if you ask me.

[dmb1spe]

It's a good thing no one asked you.

[lillerfm]

Nope, you're right nobody did...

...I guess then I just offered up an opinion...my bad for exercising my right to do so.

[UJCdream]

i think both sides are at fault in the sheff/fan incident. the guy, and everyone around him, should not have been leaning over the wall... or atleast not trying to grab the ball. and i'm sure the fans in that section were anything but "classy fans" to sheff. topped off by the fact that it was late in the game and i'm sure those guys have had their share of beer. however... being a professional athlete, sheff should learn to just let it be. i think the only reason he "controlled himself" was because he still had a play to make. and once that play was made, there was already security all over the place.

all the same, fan interference is a problem everywhere. maybe more so at fenway 'cause of the low walls. but, if you remember in last year's ALCS... when bellhorn's supposed homer was dropped by the fan? in my eyes, if that person had NOT reached out their hands, i think that ball may have dropped either into matsui's glove or on the field.

shit happens, i guess.

[EatSleepJeep]

Sheffield is full of it.
"I'm not sure if he punched me or not, it felt like it. You know, it felt like my lip was busted...It could have been worse if I didn't hold my composure."

Bullshit. You know if you got punched or not. He doesn't have a mark on him, much less a busted lip. Sheffield clearly swung his arms and made contact with the guy. Then he threw the ball and went back to the fence and started yelling; that's not holding your composure. He should have thrown the ball and kept moving towards the field, not back to the stands.

[UJCdream]

Sheffield is full of it.
"I'm not sure if he punched me or not, it felt like it. You know, it felt like my lip was busted...It could have been worse if I didn't hold my composure."


that right there shows he didn't hold his composure! he wasn't even SURE if the fan hit him. he just felt something (god forbid it be that his cheek hit the WALL on his way down) and assumed it was that guy. i mean... come ON sheff.

i still stand by my statement that the guy should keep his hands and arms the hell away from teh playing field, but sheff himself doesn't even know if the kid hit him, then how can the rest of of claim to know?

[dmb1spe]

the "kid" looked damn near forty. And I think a grown ass man would know the difference between some dude swinging on him and brushing against an immovable padded object like the wall.

[UJCdream]

the "kid" looked damn near forty. And I think a grown ass man would know the difference between some dude swinging on him and brushing against an immovable padded object like the wall.
kid, guy, fan.... whatever. it's irrelevant.

and those weren't my words about gary "grown ass man" sheffield not knowing whether he was hit. those were HIS words. you wanna bitch about his ability to know or not know... then go talk to him.

[MidasMulligan]

Mets fan take: The fan did not take a swing at sheffield, but sheffield was probably justified in thinking that he did (he was too busy chasing the ball). He probably didn't need to shove the guy, but it wasn't an entirely inexcusable response to the situation.

[brydro]

Sheffield is full of it.
"I'm not sure if he punched me or not, it felt like it. You know, it felt like my lip was busted...It could have been worse if I didn't hold my composure."

Bullshit. You know if you got punched or not. He doesn't have a mark on him, much less a busted lip. Sheffield clearly swung his arms and made contact with the guy. Then he threw the ball and went back to the fence and started yelling; that's not holding your composure. He should have thrown the ball and kept moving towards the field, not back to the stands.

So the fan wasn't wrong at all?

[brydro]

Bottom Line sheff overeacted, but fans shouldnt be reaching for the ball..Thats it end of story.

[Wildmoose31]

So the fan wasn't wrong at all?
No, but sheffield clearly overreacted and never should have pushed the fan, especially until the play was over

[Wildmoose31]

Bottom Line sheff overeacted, but fans shouldnt be reaching for the ball..Thats it end of story.
Ok, so that would give the right to whatever oriole player back in 96 or whatever to go after Jeffery Maier? (sad that I remember the kids name)


(joking)

[MidasMulligan]

So the fan wasn't wrong at all?

I think he was wrong--no fan should interfere with a live ball. But I don't think he was trying to interfere with sheffield.

[brydro]

No, but sheffield clearly overreacted and never should have pushed the fan, especially until the play was over

No I agree completely. But if this wasn't a player on the yankees and this wasn't a yanks sox game, this would not have been blown out of proportion like it did. But I would like to see how everyone bashing sheffield would have reacted in that situation.

[UJCdream]

Bottom Line sheff overeacted, but fans shouldnt be reaching for the ball..Thats it end of story.
agreed. they were both wrong. but what's done is done, time to move on.

[brydro]

Ok, so that would give the right to whatever oriole player back in 96 or whatever to go after Jeffery Maier? (sad that I remember the kids name)

See your spewing hate right now. Did I bring that up? Did you ask me if I thought that was right too? I didnt say he was right for shoving the fan. I actually disagree with what he did...and Jeffery Maier shouldnt have been touching a ball either.

[MidasMulligan]

No I agree completely. But if this wasn't a player on the yankees and this wasn't a yanks sox game, this would not have been blown out of proportion like it did. But I would like to see how everyone bashing sheffield would have reacted in that situation.

Sorry--that's a bit of yankee hubris there. I think the media is so obsessed with these fan-player scuffles that this would have been blown out of proportion if it were Royals-Bluejays...

[brydro]

Sorry--that's a bit of yankee hubris there. I think the media is so obsessed with these fan-player scuffles that this would have been blown out of proportion if it were Royals-Bluejays...

Oh please...Yankee Hurbis...

[Wildmoose31]

See your spewing hate right now. Did I bring that up? Did you ask me if I thought that was right too? I didnt say he was right for shoving the fan. I actually disagree with what he did...and Jeffery Maier shouldnt have been touching a ball either.
Yeah, I wasnt being serious with the go a fter the 12 year old comment though. At the time, as sad as it is, I hated that kid as much as anyone, especially after he got a fucking interview. :lol

[Paying4WhatIGet]

i think both sides are at fault in the sheff/fan incident. the guy, and everyone around him, should not have been leaning over the wall... or atleast not trying to grab the ball. and i'm sure the fans in that section were anything but "classy fans" to sheff. topped off by the fact that it was late in the game and i'm sure those guys have had their share of beer. however... being a professional athlete, sheff should learn to just let it be. i think the only reason he "controlled himself" was because he still had a play to make. and once that play was made, there was already security all over the place.


I'm sick of people saying "being a professional athlete, they shouldnt do this and they shouldnt do that and they should do this and that"...yes, they are paid millions of dollars, yes they should get used to having no privacy in their lives and being scrutinized every day...but i dont care if im a nobody walking on the street and a guy hits me in the face or gary sheffield making millions and a guy hits me in the face, its still a guy hitting me...and im going to probably do something about it...i hate how people hold professional atheletes up to this no-fault mentality that they are superhuman and that they should be on pedastals...he did hold his composure by not hitting the guy when he hit him...if i'm gary sheffield in a supertense ballgame infront of the whole world, and some jerkoff hits me in the face in the middle of he game, then not hitting him would take some extreme self control

[brydro]

Yeah, I wasnt being serious with the go a fter the 12 year old comment though. At the time, as sad as it is, I hated that kid as much as anyone, especially after he got a fucking interview. :lol

That kid was pretty popular here in NY for a while..

[Buffalo JR/HA]

Right, douchebag. It's called "bed." I disappeared my ass.

I have people agreeing with me that it wasn't the fucking guy throwing the beer on Captain Roid Rage, or did you selectively miss that?

The chant has been wrong all along- it's not "Yankees suck." It should have something to do with their rotten, spoiled fairweather fans.

And to think people called me immature.

[UJCdream]

I'm sick of people saying "being a professional athlete, they shouldnt do this and they shouldnt do that and they should do this and that"...yes, they are paid millions of dollars, yes they should get used to having no privacy in their lives and being scrutinized every day...but i dont care if im a nobody walking on the street and a guy hits me in the face or gary sheffield making millions and a guy hits me in the face, its still a guy hitting me...and im going to probably do something about it...i hate how people hold professional atheletes up to this no-fault mentality that they are superhuman and that they should be on pedastals...he did hold his composure by not hitting the guy when he hit him...if i'm gary sheffield in a supertense ballgame infront of the whole world, and some jerkoff hits me in the face in the middle of he game, then not hitting him would take some extreme self control
i'm not trying to put him or other athletes on some pedastal. for one, gary DID try to hit him back immediately. secondly, gary is quoted saying he's not even sure if the kid hit him.

i'm not saying gary had no right to be mad... but damn, be sure of what happened before you flip out.

[brydro]

Aren't we glad baseball is back!!! I know I am!

[UJCdream]

Aren't we glad baseball is back!!! I know I am!

:lol you can sign me up for that list!

[Jake]

all I know is that the 1st foul pop going toward the crowd in the Bronx chased by a Soxer will result in a beer shower fitting for a strip club champane room.

[UJCdream]

all I know is that the 1st foul pop going toward the crowd in the Bronx chased by a Soxer will result in a beer shower fitting for a strip club champane room.
i gotta say... if that actually happens...

i will HAVE to laugh my ass off.

[MidasMulligan]

Oh please...Yankee Hurbis...

:lol ;)

[Buffalo JR/HA]

all I know is that the 1st foul pop going toward the crowd in the Bronx chased by a Soxer will result in a beer shower fitting for a strip club champane room.

Oh the possibilties...maybe it can be Vairtek, Damon, or Man Ram. I wish it was Schilling though....so many choices

[MidasMulligan]

all I know is that the 1st foul pop going toward the crowd in the Bronx chased by a Soxer will result in a beer shower fitting for a strip club champane room.

I'm *sure* that the yankee fans will have too much class to stoop to that...

[brydro]

I'm *sure* that the yankee fans will have too much class to stoop to that...


It's funny but you never here anything like this happening in the bronx. You make it sound like it happens in the bronx all the time. But it's ok, your used to that minor league stadium in flushing.

It's funny how you love starting shit with yankee fans..Funny how Met fans make it like there is a rivalry between the two teams. For one it is not, national league, american league. The games we play have no bearing on the season. You talk like a red sox fan, but you aren't. Sounds like jealousy to me. Yankee hate. But thats more yankee Hubris to you...Atleast sox fans aren't jealous...But those loser fans from flushing sure are.

[UJCdream]

i'm done with this hooplah for now. time to go kick some Oriole ass in MVP '05.

[brydro]

i'm done with this hooplah for now. time to go kick some Oriole ass in MVP '05.


Good luck Beth, Enjoy have a good weekend!

[UJCdream]

Good luck Beth, Enjoy have a good weekend!
thanks, same to you. :)

good luck in your upcoming series...

[Cordevil95]

100% non-biased fan here.

Ok, first off, the fan was in no way going for the ball. the ball was 5 feet below his hand!! he made absolutely no attempt to go for it, he didn't even bend over. This looked to me like a premeditated drunken act. The fan was clearly trying to AT LEAST interfere with the play, at least.

I don't think Sheff overreacted at all. A fan struck him, he pushed the fan back to where he belongs, in his seat.

The whole beer thing. Who knows. The beer was being held by some dude that could have been tipped over when the girls fell backwards, no biggie.

[yo son]

Red Sox Suck

[Hench]

Red Sox Suck

sorry about your inferiority buddy.

[Crumbo]

100% non-biased fan here.

Ok, first off, the fan was in no way going for the ball. the ball was 5 feet below his hand!! he made absolutely no attempt to go for it, he didn't even bend over. This looked to me like a premeditated drunken act. The fan was clearly trying to AT LEAST interfere with the play, at least.

I don't think Sheff overreacted at all. A fan struck him, he pushed the fan back to where he belongs, in his seat.

The whole beer thing. Who knows. The beer was being held by some dude that could have been tipped over when the girls fell backwards, no biggie.

is that possible? :lol

the guy threw the beer....you can see his hand move before that girl fell

[Cordevil95]

is that possible? :lol

the guy threw the beer....you can see his hand move before that girl fell


Haha.. yes, it's possible. I think :lol

[ProudestAnt]

Great game tonight. 10-0 right now, 8-0 when Wells left. About time he pitched halfway decent...

[Rob]

Watch the birdy, Fuckface- http://waxy.org/random/images/weblog/yankees_sheffield_phonecam.jpg

[slk11086]

I'll take it

[ProudestAnt]

Watch the birdy, Fuckface- http://waxy.org/random/images/weblog/yankees_sheffield_phonecam.jpgNice...

[UJCdream]

sweet win tonight. nice to see Wells finally show up...

[JonTheRvelator]

Wells.

:thumbsup

[UJCdream]

Wells.

:thumbsup
it's going to take a few more games for me to have complete faith in him, but he seemed to be really hitting his targets tonight and had a nasty curve. big improvement from the last two games.

[davehead34]

Red Sox Suck

:banned

[dm40band]

im a die hard Yankee fan but the one thing they are not is that they suck!!! they are WS Champs and nothing can take that away from them... ok that is a nice as im gonna get about this subject

[davehead34]

ok that is a nice as im gonna get about this subject

:lol Thanks for the kind words.

On a separate note - HELL YEAH! 6-2 Sox today. Good stuff.

[ProudestAnt]

Manny is finally showing his MVP self this season. Two homers and six ribbies, that's just nasty...

[davehead34]

Yeah, that'll happen when you get matched up against the D-Rays. I feel serious pity for their fans.

[redsoxiluv]

Manny is finally showing his MVP self this season. Two homers and six ribbies, that's just nasty...

I was lucky enough to be at Fenway yesterday (and will be returning there tomorrow :D), and seeing Manny snap out of his funk was definitely the highlight of a great evening...

[ryguy178]

Did we ever happen to figure out the beer throwing/spilling perpatrator? because Fenway thinks they did, and they are suspending the guy.

personally I STILL think he didnt' spill the beer on purpose, and shouldn't have had his ticket privaleges revoked..

[redsoxiluv]

the 11am patriots day game has to be one of my favorite boston traditions.

what a wonderful weekend at the ballpark :)

[rockyracoon]

i agree with ryguy. just by watching that dudes reaction to his pricey beer getting dumped out it's pretty obvious, to me anyways, that HE didn't purposely douse sheff. just read his lips. i got : "WHOOOOAAAA! WHAT THE FUCK?" that's what i took from it.

[davehead34]

Ahhh...another Red Sox game! What would I do without you, ESPN GameCast?! I suppose my soulfull white brother, Bronson Arroyo, is pitching. We should do alright today.

[DMBfan22J]

Ahhh...another Red Sox game! What would I do without you, ESPN GameCast?! I suppose my soulfull white brother, Bronson Arroyo, is pitching. We should do alright today.

For sure Chase. I wish I had that, we get no games out here in Oregon except for the ones on ESPN.

Nate

[BustedFairyTale]

God bless NESN. :)

[ryguy178]

What would I do without you, ESPN GameCast?!

get MLB Extra Innings, thats what I have. I watch ever BoSox game every night from my home in philly..

[BustedFairyTale]

manny is an animal

[redsoxiluv]

Ahhh...another Red Sox game! What would I do without you, ESPN GameCast?! I suppose my soulfull white brother, Bronson Arroyo, is pitching. We should do alright today.

I can't look at Bronson the same way anymore after the pics from this thread :lorraine

[davehead34]

get MLB Extra Innings, thats what I have. I watch ever BoSox game every night from my home in philly..

:hump Dude that sounds sweet! How the hell do I get that? Is it on my computer or what?