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Edgar Rentaria is a waste of human flesh. I really wish he'd trip over his own sense of suck and die.
ryguy178
10-01-2005, 03:19 PM
This is absolute fucking bullshit. Because the phillies are on fox at 4 for me, they aren't televising the BoSox game at 1 on fox in my local market. And because its on nationally in every other fucking part of the country, I can't even watch it on MLB.tv. Godammit.
MistreatedLewis
10-01-2005, 04:01 PM
:lol That's really funny. Edgar Rentaria is a waste of human flesh. I really wish he'd trip over his own sense of suck and die.
Letter I just sent to Fox:
I wanted to congratulate Fox and its broadcasting team on achieving perhaps the greatest feat in sports broadcast history. You have made one of the most exciting baseball games of the year impossible to watch.
This achievement took hard work, and it's readily apparent to anybody unfortunate enough to turn on the broadcast for a few short minutes. For example, Fox's research into its audience must have turned up a surprising proportion of mentally challenged individuals, thus your inclusion of a senile and challenged color announcer. Tim McCarver's drivel and general nonsequiter nature surpass all but the most long-tenured professors at the most worthless colleges across the nation. His drawn-out explanation of "If it's high let it fly, if it's low, let it go" would have made a first-week ESL fully comprehend this simple concept. Even though this flabergasted your more mentally competant viewers, I'm sure it was worthwhile.
The decision to highlight the Chicago/Cleveland game and give it a dominant standing in an odd dual-view window was quite impressive as well. How you determined that fans in the New England region would rather focus on the game indirectly affecting the playoff outcome is something I can only speculate about, but I'm sure your executives making such decisions thought this out fully.
I also thoroughly enjoyed watching the year-plus old commercials in place of the first few pitches of each half-inning. As little often happens in these situations, listening to Joe Buck stumble over his limited command of the English language trying to recap what Fox so expertly missed is entertaining in the fullest.
So, again, my congratulations on forcing baseball fans to turn to other media (radio, online gamecasts, etc) in order to enjoy a baseball game that should stand on its own as an enjoyable event. Fox's work in this area is a model for every level of communications specialty, ranging from gross ineptitude to downright stupidity.
Finally, I'd suggest that you simply dress Buck and McCarver in Yankees merchandise (perhaps also sporting the Fox logo) rather than continue to work under the guise of impartial broadcasting. How were Jerry Remy's guest apperances covering Sox games on Fox (Such as Red Sox vs. Angels) far more impartial than your high-profile broadcasters? The gig is up- can we drop the questioning of fans' intelligence and simply broadcast a baseball game as a baseball game rather than a spectacle for a change?
ryguy178
10-01-2005, 04:11 PM
While thats all true Rob, I'd gladly trade in not being able to watch it AT ALL for having to put up with that bullshit.
ali815
10-01-2005, 04:42 PM
boo yankees. :D
and your letter rocks rob!
Ascf33
10-01-2005, 05:29 PM
:multi AL EAST CHAMPS!!!!! :multi
Congrats to the biggest choke team in sports history! Go celebrate in your own thread, prick.
angryfish
10-01-2005, 05:35 PM
Baseball should not be a rich kid going into Toys R' Us with their rich daddy and picking out all the expensive bikes, remote control cars, and action figures....And then being able to say that he has the best collection of all
It should be little Timmy coming in after mowing lawns all day and buying the toy that he had hoped do get by atleast christmas...and making that toy the best through time and dedication to it
You don't buy teams, you build them
Not a great argument from a Sox fan... We're not exactly a cheap team, either.
On the other hand, the Yanks have two steroid using fucks. There's no doubt Giambi is back on HGH (considering baseball doesn't test for it).
tdowe99
10-01-2005, 05:41 PM
We Sox are still looking good.
We win tomorrow, and Cleavland loses... we win Wild Card.
We lose tomorrow and Cleavland loses... we win Wild Card.
We lose tomorrow and Cleavland wins... we have a playoff on Monday.
I think we have a good shot. But yeah, it would have been nice to win the AL East.
angryfish
10-01-2005, 05:44 PM
Cards fan...I dont care for the Sox or the Yankees
redsoxiluv
10-01-2005, 05:51 PM
We Sox are still looking good.
We win tomorrow, and Cleavland loses... we win Wild Card.
We lose tomorrow and Cleavland loses... we win Wild Card.
We lose tomorrow and Cleavland wins... we have a playoff on Monday.
I think we have a good shot. But yeah, it would have been nice to win the AL East.
thank you for being rational about this. I really shouldn't be this disappointed about this, considering we're still going to be playing at least through monday...
bense27
10-01-2005, 06:17 PM
But yeah, it would have been nice to win the AL East.but you didn't...:p
redsoxiluv
10-01-2005, 06:22 PM
but you didn't...:p
well, as you may recall, we didn't win the East last year either, but you don't hear me complaining about the outcome there ;)
Lcsulla
10-01-2005, 06:28 PM
My fellow Yankee fans, no sense in crowing to the Sox fans cause my bet is still on another ALCS rematch. They're people too even if their misguided in a baseball sense. Outside of NY I know of no more knowledgable group of baseball fans than Red Sox nation. No sense in rubbing it in! Let's just celebrate our accomplishment!
To the Sox fans... very nice season you guys have had despite all your problems (not that the Yanks didn't have their fair share!) Don't despair, you still control your own WC destiny, a Sox win tommorrow or a Cleveland loss gets you in!
I really do hope to be seeing you guys in a little over a week to battle for the pennant! :)
DMBfan41
10-01-2005, 07:13 PM
Not a great argument from a Sox fan... We're not exactly a cheap team, either.
On the other hand, the Yanks have two steroid using fucks. There's no doubt Giambi is back on HGH (considering baseball doesn't test for it).
"steroid using fucks"
...............yeeeeah, have fun with that one:rolleyes
To all the Sox fans that aren't blaming steroids and FOX announcers, I hope to not see you in the ALCS, but it won't surprise me if we meet again for another 7 game series.
And hopefully we can have some fun talking baseball and not steroids, fox announcers (although I agree Tim McCarver does suck), and definately not money.
The Yankees have some great fans- I enjoy sitting down with knowledgable ones. The problem is the huge number of "fans" that only follow the team when it's winning, wrap themselves in a sheet of arrogance about the past when losing, and don't know a damn thing about baseball. It seems like I run into far too many of the latter.
Lcsulla
10-01-2005, 07:23 PM
The Yankees have some great fans- I enjoy sitting down with knowledgable ones. The problem is the huge number of "fans" that only follow the team when it's winning, wrap themselves in a sheet of arrogance about the past when losing, and don't know a damn thing about baseball. It seems like I run into far too many of the latter.
Be fair Rob... how many new shiny BoSox hats have you seen in the last year? In CT, I've seen PLENTY... brand new. Some of the people are a joke too. I can't talk to some of the so called 'die hard' Sox fans who don't know who people like Todd Walker, Jose Offerman, Bruce Hurst, and Mike Greenwell are... believe me there's a lot of them these days. Winning does that for all teams... winners just automatically grab bandwagon fans!
DMBfan41
10-01-2005, 07:25 PM
The Yankees have some great fans- I enjoy sitting down with knowledgable ones. The problem is the huge number of "fans" that only follow the team when it's winning, wrap themselves in a sheet of arrogance about the past when losing, and don't know a damn thing about baseball. It seems like I run into far too many of the latter.
this is true, yeah. But, there are also the real "hardcore" red sox fans that have been around for 5 years that acted is if they waited 86 years to see the sox win. I found that rather annoying. And of course the real cocky fans that act is if 1919-2003 never happened because they won in 2004.
greppson
10-01-2005, 07:33 PM
it's ok folks, we'll clinch the wild card tomorrow when we bust the stuffing out of jaret wright. :lol
jaret wright. :lol
DMBfan41
10-01-2005, 07:37 PM
it's ok folks, we'll clinch the wild card tomorrow when we bust the stuffing out of jaret wright. :lol
jaret wright. :lol
jaret wright, bubba crosby, john flaherty, mark bellhorn, felix escalona, andy phillips, matt lawton, mike vento, tony womack.
Our lineup for tomorrow.
You know you're scared:p
greppson
10-01-2005, 07:42 PM
And of course the real cocky fans that act is if 1919-2003 never happened because they won in 2004.
exactly like yankee fans get cocky and somehow forget they had the WORST collapse in MLB history by losing 4 straight in the alcs and forcing a game 7.
:lol :lol
DMBfan41
10-01-2005, 07:45 PM
exactly like yankee fans get cocky and somehow forget they had the WORST collapse in MLB history by losing 4 straight in the alcs and forcing a game 7.
:lol :lol
we don't forget.....we just try not to think about the past. We see how Sox fans are. Expecting the worst.......oh no, wait that ended because they won.
greppson
10-01-2005, 07:51 PM
we don't forget.....we just try not to think about the past. We see how Sox fans are. Expecting the worst.......oh no, wait that ended because they won.
jared, stop being a hypocrite.
sox fans don't forget 1919-2003, we just choose to now look at the good times rather than the bad times.
DMBfan41
10-01-2005, 07:57 PM
jared, stop being a hypocrite.
sox fans don't forget 1919-2003, we just choose to now look at the good times rather than the bad times.
i gotta stop forgetting smilies. Without smiles everyone thinks you're serious, my bad.
Lcsulla
10-01-2005, 08:17 PM
sox fans don't forget 1919-2003, we just choose to now look at the good times rather than the bad times.
Having been born in 1977 I didn't get into baseball until I was about five so I never saw them win squat for a long time. Being a Yankee fan from 1983 until 1994 or so was misery in MY early baseball lifetime. I suffered long and hard myself! It's not like I have had a hunky dorey baseball fan career either... but I'll admit the last ten years have been fun... despite sitting in the no alcohol section of the bleachers for ALCS game seven last October... and not being allowed to smoke either. No beer and no nicotine while my Yanks were getting pummelled... no fun at all... thank god I had my Xanax! :)
davehead34
10-01-2005, 08:29 PM
I swear to god that I'm punching the first Yankees fan I see in the god damn heart.
davehead34
10-01-2005, 08:30 PM
thank god I had my Xanax! :)
I need Xanax right now. :shrug Something to reduce my blood pressure would be nice, too.
ryguy178
10-01-2005, 08:43 PM
I don't mind that we didn't win the Division necassarily. I still am very confident we'll wrap up the wild card. And we'll still beat them in the playoffs. No one remembers who wins the division anyway, its the big ring that counts.
ProudestAnt
10-01-2005, 08:45 PM
It's gonna be a whole new season after we clinch tomorrow. Then we'll see what everyone's made of. Hell of a season from both the Sox and the Yanks. Lookin forward to another great ALCS...
davehead34
10-01-2005, 08:45 PM
I don't mind that we didn't win the Division necassarily. I still am very confident we'll wrap up the wild card. And we'll still beat them in the playoffs. No one remembers who wins the division anyway, its the big ring that counts.
:thumbsup True. I'm just sick of not winning the division, though. I'm pretty sure that a wild card team has won the past three, or so, WS.
DMBfan41
10-01-2005, 09:17 PM
I don't mind that we didn't win the Division necassarily. I still am very confident we'll wrap up the wild card. And we'll still beat them in the playoffs. No one remembers who wins the division anyway, its the big ring that counts.
I dunno, time is running out. But, if the Phillies can win tomorrow, they defininately could have a chance!
tdowe99
10-01-2005, 09:22 PM
I was walking downtown for some dinner, and i saw three yankees fans all dressed up in jerseys and hats trying to hail a cab. Trying is the key word... nobody would stop for them. :)
davehead34
10-01-2005, 09:23 PM
I was walking downtown for some dinner, and i saw three yankees fans all dressed up in jerseys and hats trying to hail a cab. Trying is the key word... nobody would stop for them. :)
:lol God I love Boston. Serves those punk fucks right. What kind of asshat wears a Yanks jersey in Boston and think he'll get a cab?
ali815
10-01-2005, 09:55 PM
I was walking downtown for some dinner, and i saw three yankees fans all dressed up in jerseys and hats trying to hail a cab. Trying is the key word... nobody would stop for them. :)
that just made my night. :lol
i love boston. :thumbsup :thumbsup
Lcsulla
10-01-2005, 10:43 PM
:lol God I love Boston. Serves those punk fucks right. What kind of asshat wears a Yanks jersey in Boston and think he'll get a cab?
I had my Mo jersey and Yankee hat on last summer when the Yanks beat Schilling up and a COP gave me bad directions and sent me to the wrong side of Fenway to find the Cask and Flaggon! I didn't even bother trying to hail a cab with my attire! Damn, Bostonians!:)
smeritt
10-01-2005, 10:46 PM
I don't mind that we didn't win the Division necassarily. I still am very confident we'll wrap up the wild card. And we'll still beat them in the playoffs. No one remembers who wins the division anyway, its the big ring that counts.good thing we have so many to count! ;) 26 is enough to keep anyone happy
ryguy178
10-01-2005, 10:51 PM
Interesting article on the sillyness of the Tiebreaker deal by Stark:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2178227
smeritt
10-01-2005, 11:05 PM
This," said Damon, "is why we have Curt -- and why we don't have Pedro [Martinez] anymore -- because we have an ace in Curt here. Curt knows he's got to pitch like an ace tomorrow. And I think he's going to pitch very well."
wow he just ripped on one of the most dominant pitchers in his time. That's ridiculus. Predro would own him any day of the week(damon that is )
Wildmoose31
10-01-2005, 11:10 PM
This," said Damon, "is why we have Curt -- and why we don't have Pedro [Martinez] anymore -- because we have an ace in Curt here. Curt knows he's got to pitch like an ace tomorrow. And I think he's going to pitch very well."
wow he just ripped on one of the most dominant pitchers in his time. That's ridiculus. Predro would own him any day of the week(damon that is )
hmm, what else is he gonna say?
"well I think these dumbass GMs did a horrible job, we'd be in the playoffs if we still had pedro"???
C'mon, hes not saying that pedro wouldnt win tomorrow, hes saying schillings the teams ace, which is what anyone would say
typical that a yankee fan would pick out one part of the statement and infer it means something else
smeritt
10-01-2005, 11:12 PM
personally it sounds like hes saying pedro wouldnt have been an ace for that team or never was .
typical a sox fan would think there opinion is right no matter what
Wildmoose31
10-01-2005, 11:19 PM
personally it sounds like hes saying pedro wouldnt have been an ace for that team or never was .
typical a sox fan would think there opinion is right no matter what
Make sense much? Didnt think so
smeritt
10-01-2005, 11:29 PM
dude he says and why we dont have pedro anymore, because we have an ace in curt. How hard is that not to see he's dissing the guy?
makes perfect sense. stop being a coldhearted sox fan. You still got 20 more till you catch up. Give me a call when you do. I'm done posting in such an unhappy thread
davehead34
10-01-2005, 11:35 PM
I had my Mo jersey and Yankee hat on last summer when the Yanks beat Schilling up and a COP gave me bad directions and sent me to the wrong side of Fenway to find the Cask and Flaggon! I didn't even bother trying to hail a cab with my attire! Damn, Bostonians!:)
:lol Awesome. I can't wait for MSG for so many reasons. Obviously, DMB is the main reason, but I always love wearing my Red Sox gear in NYC. I don't mind bumping heads with some asshat Yankees fans ;)
ProudestAnt
10-01-2005, 11:52 PM
dude he says and why we dont have pedro anymore, because we have an ace in curt. How hard is that not to see he's dissing the guy?
makes perfect sense. stop being a coldhearted sox fan. You still got 20 more till you catch up. Give me a call when you do. I'm done posting in such an unhappy threadYou're a fool, plain and simple, give me a call when you get over it...
Wildmoose31
10-01-2005, 11:59 PM
dude he says and why we dont have pedro anymore, because we have an ace in curt. How hard is that not to see he's dissing the guy?
makes perfect sense. stop being a coldhearted sox fan. You still got 20 more till you catch up. Give me a call when you do. I'm done posting in such an unhappy thread
It wouldnt be nearly as unhappy a thread if there werent douchebag yankee fans like you posting in it
(this comment refers directly to a select few and not to yankee fans as a whole)
davehead34
10-02-2005, 12:43 AM
Although Sean's a Yankees fan, he's a good guy. I'll go to bat for him and say that. I just can't wait till the "Boston Red Sox" thread gets changed to "World Series Champions" thread :lol
zigbaldi
10-02-2005, 01:22 AM
Although Sean's a Yankees fan, he's a good guy. I'll go to bat for him and say that. I just can't wait till the "Boston Red Sox" thread gets changed to "World Series Champions" thread :lol
:thumbsup
thats what im saying. i actually would rather take the Wild Card, because then we face the White Sox, who look alot easier right now than the Angels. It could be a blessing that we would face the Sox, while the yanks go down against the angels :D
davehead34
10-02-2005, 01:28 AM
:thumbsup
thats what im saying. i actually would rather take the Wild Card, because then we face the White Sox, who look alot easier right now than the Angels. It could be a blessing that we would face the Sox, while the yanks go down against the angels :D
:thumbsup I am so very much in agreement with you right now.
Officially playoff-bound. I'm glad we get Chicago instead of Anaheim.
davehead34
10-02-2005, 05:14 PM
Officially playoff-bound. I'm glad we get Chicago instead of Anaheim.
:thumbsup Agreed.
UJCdream
10-02-2005, 05:51 PM
Personally, I'd have rather played LAA. Either way, good to be in the playoffs. :thumbsup
This is a hardcore lineup in there right now...
UJCdream
10-02-2005, 06:03 PM
:lol I know, huh?
FrankTheTank
10-02-2005, 06:07 PM
crap that girl is 14?????????????????????
hello jail.
UJCdream
10-02-2005, 06:08 PM
NYY 1 run 10 hits
BOS 10 runs 10 hits
:lol
davehead34
10-02-2005, 06:09 PM
NYY 1 run 10 hits
BOS 10 runs 10 hits
:lol
That's what I love to see :D
crap that girl is 14?????????????????????
hello jail.
No shit. I totally call bullshit. I want to see her birth certificate and perform a pelvic exam.
ryguy178
10-02-2005, 08:29 PM
So when does this get renamed to "2005 AL Wild-Card Winning Red Sox Thread"
davehead34
10-02-2005, 08:37 PM
So when does this get renamed to "2005 AL Wild-Card Winning Red Sox Thread"
Good question...
ryguy178
10-02-2005, 08:41 PM
ISO: Jamie.
davehead34
10-02-2005, 08:50 PM
ISO: Jamie.
ISO: Greppson.
I can picture it right now - we change the name of this thread and the Yankees fans are all over us.
greppson
10-02-2005, 08:57 PM
bam.
;)
ryguy178
10-02-2005, 09:01 PM
:multi :multi
(It took me a while to find it haha)
reds24
10-02-2005, 09:02 PM
Just curious, should this thread be titled Defending World Series Champion Boston Red Sox.
bense27
10-02-2005, 09:18 PM
I was hoping that Cleveland made it over the Red sox....but it didn't happen....:BANG
davehead34
10-02-2005, 09:50 PM
bam.
;)
:thumbsup
You can ALWAYS count on a Sox fan :)
davehead34
10-02-2005, 09:50 PM
I was hoping that Cleveland made it over the Red sox....but it didn't happen....:BANG
Wrong thread, Ben.
;)
bense27
10-02-2005, 10:12 PM
Wrong thread, Ben.
;)name isn't ben.....;)
redsoxiluv
10-02-2005, 10:14 PM
bam.
;)
well done -- now I can't complain anymore :lol
davehead34
10-02-2005, 10:36 PM
name isn't ben.....;)
Err...Ummm...
Did I say "Ben?"
:takes another swig from the bottle of Sangria:
Yeah, I did say "Ben," didn't I. :shrug
davehead34
10-02-2005, 10:37 PM
well done -- now I can't complain anymore :lol
We'll always have something to complain about.
davehead34
10-03-2005, 03:34 AM
^To the top. Because that's where we belong.
ryguy178
10-04-2005, 06:27 PM
2nd page on Gameday. terrible.
twosteppn36
10-04-2005, 06:55 PM
could we count this as practice so far?
GWDMB
10-04-2005, 06:55 PM
Not too much to talk about. They're currently being schooled in every sense of the word
ProudestAnt
10-04-2005, 08:14 PM
Fitting ending to a terrible game. Here's to a gem from Wells tomorrow...
MistreatedLewis
10-04-2005, 08:16 PM
That sucked.
At least Olerud is batting 1.000
angryfish
10-04-2005, 10:50 PM
The Red Sox and Yankees are going no where fast...great rivalry, doesnt make the teams good
The Red Sawx will lose to the White Sox(the White Sox are a better team this year, the Red Sox impressed me greatly last year, and I am a HUGE CARDS FAN, but they just don't have it this year, they are out-matched)...The Yankees will beat the Angels because they have good pitching as of now, but they will lose to the superior pitching (and possible batting, seeing as the flew against the Sawx today) of those red hott White Sox....
The Cardinals will have their hands full with Atlanta's line-up, but experience and consistency will win it for them in the NL...
The Cardinals/White Sox is gonna be a good one...too hard to predict now
dmb1spe
10-04-2005, 10:53 PM
The Red Sox and Yankees are going no where fast...great rivalry, doesnt make the teams good
The Red Sawx will lose to the White Sox(the White Sox are a better team this year, the Red Sox impressed me greatly last year, and I am a HUGE CARDS FAN, but they just don't have it this year, they are out-matched)...The Yankees will beat the Angels because they have good pitching as of now, but they will lose to the superior pitching (and possible batting, seeing as the flew against the Sawx today) of those red hott White Sox....
The Cardinals will have their hands full with Atlanta's line-up, but experience and consistency will win it for them in the NL...
The Cardinals/White Sox is gonna be a good one...too hard to predict now
Don't let your asswhooping from today blind you to the fact that the Yanks will have ZERO problems with the White Sox.
angryfish
10-04-2005, 10:56 PM
I actually live in St.Louis, MO and I am a fan of the best team in baseball right now...
rockyracoon
10-05-2005, 01:00 AM
if the bosox can grab a W tomorrow, they will take the series.
purplehaze18
10-05-2005, 01:01 AM
Sox are awesome. That is all.
angryfish
10-05-2005, 10:11 PM
The sawx are done...Wells was their flag of hope
The White Sox will beat the Sox then beat the Yankees...I like to call the Sox, "The Hollywood Killers"
angryfish
10-05-2005, 10:14 PM
Like I have said for the last month...I really think (i am not saying this is for sure, I dont want to sound like a bastard)>>
Atlanta/St.Louis (nlcs)
Yankees/White Sox (alcs)
St.Louis/White Sox (the main stage)---Hard to tell after this, but GO CARDS...I've lived here my whole life, it would be nice to see Busch go out in style
TempHelpNeeded
10-05-2005, 10:54 PM
I actually live in St.Louis, MO and I am a fan of the best team in baseball right now...
They won't win though...AL is taking home the championship again this year.
DMBfan41
10-05-2005, 10:55 PM
Although I am happy that the Red Sox are down 2-0, I won't say anything. Even though Graffanino pulled a Buckner, I still won't say much.
We all know they could come back. So, let's see what happens.
greppson
10-05-2005, 10:58 PM
go back to your own threads, jerkoffs.
TempHelpNeeded
10-05-2005, 11:00 PM
Although I am happy that the Red Sox are down 2-0, I won't say anything. Even though Graffanino pulled a Buckner, I still won't say much.
We all know they could come back. So, let's see what happens.
I'd love to say "Believe" right now, but it's just way too hard to do it...there is no bullpen this year, therefore no chance at a championship...it's not like last year where you could put Pedro and Lowe in during the same game or what not...it's just gonna be tough. I can see them pulling out a win for the next game, but it looks like the hole has been dug...
Though...it wouldn't be the first time they came back...not just last year, but two years ago in the ALDS, the Sox were down 2 games to Oakland and came back and won 3...and yes, I got to see one of the games. (The one where, guess who, David Ortiz got the game winning double.) :D
TempHelpNeeded
10-05-2005, 11:00 PM
go back to your own threads, jerkoffs.
Agreed...:thumbsup
DMBfan41
10-05-2005, 11:05 PM
go back to your own threads, jerkoffs.
i'm not even ranting, jeeze.
TempHelpNeeded
10-05-2005, 11:07 PM
i'm not even ranting, jeeze.
I'm not refering to you...more or less the Card/ChiSox fans...I have more respect for Yankee fans. At least you understand the rivalry, these other teams bitch about the BoSox and the Yanks always playing each other...oh well...:lorraine
greppson
10-05-2005, 11:10 PM
exactly.
youneverno41
10-05-2005, 11:11 PM
white sox baby!!
DMBfan41
10-05-2005, 11:11 PM
I'm not refering to you...more or less the Card/ChiSox fans...I have more respect for Yankee fans. At least you understand the rivalry, these other teams bitch about the BoSox and the Yanks always playing each other...oh well...:lorraine
oh ha, sorry.
ryguy178
10-05-2005, 11:21 PM
I think we might have checked out all of our comeback cards last season. :shrug
dmbphan041
10-05-2005, 11:45 PM
White Sox what!!!!
Nautiest_monkey
10-05-2005, 11:50 PM
go back to your own threads, jerkoffs.
:thumbsup
davehead34
10-06-2005, 12:44 AM
I think we might have checked out all of our comeback cards last season. :shrug
Agreed. I was talking to a guy I work with and asked me what year it was. "2005," I replied. "No," he stated, "1919." :lol
Oh well. We have one more chance to prove ourselves guys. I hope you're all religious. Start praying.
davehead34
10-06-2005, 12:46 AM
The sawx are done...Wells was their flag of hope
The White Sox will beat the Sox then beat the Yankees...I like to call the Sox, "The Hollywood Killers"
I'd like to call you a "fucking moron." Get the hell out of the Boston thread, please.
DMBfan41
10-06-2005, 12:46 AM
Agreed. I was talking to a guy I work with and asked me what year it was. "2005," I replied. "No," he stated, "1919." :lol
Oh well. We have one more chance to prove ourselves guys. I hope you're all religious. Start praying.
that is funny. I can't believe we never thought of that one.;)
ryguy178
10-06-2005, 12:56 AM
the only good thing abuot this is that i don't mind seeing the ChiSox win.
davehead34
10-06-2005, 12:57 AM
that is funny. I can't believe we never thought of that one.;)
I swear to god that if I hear a "1919" chant at a game, I'll personally track you down, cut you, hang you upside down, drain your blood, and burn your remains.
Or something like that.
;)
davehead34
10-06-2005, 12:58 AM
the only good thing abuot this is that i don't mind seeing the ChiSox win.
I wouldn't mind, either, except for the fact they're playing against the fucking BOSTON RED SOX.
DMBfan41
10-06-2005, 01:02 AM
If the Red Sox won last year, and the White Sox win this year. And then the Cubs win next year.
I don't even know what to say, I just can't imagine.
davehead34
10-06-2005, 01:35 AM
If the Red Sox won last year, and the White Sox win this year. And then the Cubs win next year.
I don't even know what to say, I just can't imagine.
All the rules will have been broken. Life would suck.
davehead34
10-06-2005, 01:52 AM
If we are eliminated from the playoffs, I wonder if the mods will let us call this thread "2004 World Series Champions?" :shrug
DMBfan41
10-06-2005, 01:53 AM
There you go, bring some happiness to your lives.
damn Orlando Cabrera!
davehead34
10-06-2005, 02:18 AM
There you go, bring some happiness to your lives.
damn Orlando Cabrera!
:lol
MistreatedLewis
10-06-2005, 09:35 AM
This is getting ugly. Where did the bats go?
My theory about Olerud starting = Win blew up too.
Oh well... they did it last year when they down 3...
davehead34
10-06-2005, 11:48 AM
This is getting ugly. Where did the bats go?
My theory about Olerud starting = Win blew up too.
Oh well... they did it last year when they down 3...
True, but we can't get down three in this series :shrug
angryfish
10-06-2005, 09:07 PM
I can't wait to see the White Sox trample the yankees...
DMBfan41
10-06-2005, 10:27 PM
I can't wait to see the White Sox trample the yankees...
this would be better in the white sox thread
TempHelpNeeded
10-07-2005, 07:04 PM
Francona is a fucking idiot...he got lucky last year with an all-star team to manage...now that he has to think; well, he sucks...bad pitching decisions. :violent
larrythelegend_
10-07-2005, 08:29 PM
I hear a fat bitch singing right now. Manny, Ortiz, Sizemore and Hafner are playing golf in the morning.
larrythelegend_
10-07-2005, 08:30 PM
If I see a white sock walking down the street, I'll fight him.
SmoothD41
10-07-2005, 08:46 PM
goodbye red sox, only 85 more years
skywalker_009
10-07-2005, 08:47 PM
you gotta love assholes
smeritt
10-07-2005, 08:47 PM
and so the pain and anguish begins for Red Sox nation. I atleast thought theyd put up a fight. Now even if the Yankees lose i can be somewhat happy with the sweep:D
angryfish
10-07-2005, 08:49 PM
White Sox are a good team, no shame in losing to them...
Wildmoose31
10-07-2005, 08:54 PM
and so the pain and anguish begins for Red Sox nation. I atleast thought theyd put up a fight. Now even if the Yankees lose i can be somewhat happy with the sweep:D
Fuck, 200 mil should buy you at least one post season win, I cant wait for the yanks to fall
redsoxiluv
10-07-2005, 08:56 PM
:lorraine :lorraine :lorraine
time to go drown my sorrows...
smeritt
10-07-2005, 08:57 PM
Fuck, 200 mil should buy you at least one post season win, I cant wait for the yanks to fall130 mil should buy you atleast one postseason win, dont bitch about money you got beat buy a team with a much smaller payroll than you. I hate people who use that as an excuse, you clearly don't know much about team sports
Wildmoose31
10-07-2005, 09:06 PM
you clearly don't know much about team sports
:lol x1000
Your such a cliche yankee fan its un-fucking-believable
thestone725
10-07-2005, 09:23 PM
Boston is the first to choke, the Padres are next.
redsoxiluv
10-07-2005, 09:39 PM
this sucks.
and renteria has now made the last out of his team's season two years in a row.
why did we drop orlando? :(
smeritt
10-07-2005, 09:41 PM
:lol x1000
Your such a cliche yankee fan its un-fucking-believableI say the same to you about a red sox fan. When the yankees won in 96,98,99, 00 , It was the same core group, a team every year since theyve been a team of players hired to win.96 they won with pure talent from the farm system. Ever since theyve been buying their teams they havent dont shit.
And by the way try and back yourself up with something more relevant than calling me a fan. I know that much douchebag
neumdogg
10-07-2005, 09:41 PM
Cardinals / Angels World Series!
smeritt
10-07-2005, 09:43 PM
Cardinals / Angels World Series!I'd say cardinals/ white sox
thestone725
10-07-2005, 09:44 PM
Cards / White Sox
ryguy178
10-07-2005, 11:19 PM
Let us now observe a moment of silence for the 2005 Boston Red Sox.
May they rest in peace.
:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
DMBfan41
10-07-2005, 11:53 PM
Boston is the first to choke, the Padres are next.
padres can't choke....they suck.
And sorry bout your Red Sox, I was hoping to make it three years in a row. But, I gotta worry bout this damn serious.
How could you guys give up Cabrera?????
MistreatedLewis
10-08-2005, 12:05 PM
Well, I guess this thread is done.
yeah, nice try boston, the w.sox swept you underneath the bed and are moving on to rd. 2:D ...nice effort though
youneverno41
10-08-2005, 12:25 PM
they brought out the brooms and had a clean sweep
bense27
10-08-2005, 07:31 PM
shouldn't this be called "2005 AL Wild-Card Winning Boston Red Sox who couldn't pull it off this year thread"?
MistreatedLewis
10-08-2005, 07:33 PM
shouldn't this be called "2005 AL Wild-Card Winning Boston Red Sox who couldn't pull it off this year thread"?
Not unless you want the Yankees thread to be changed after Sunday to "Well, at least we won one postseason game" as well...
MistreatedLewis
10-08-2005, 07:46 PM
padres can't choke....they suck.
And sorry bout your Red Sox, I was hoping to make it three years in a row. But, I gotta worry bout this damn serious.
How could you guys give up Cabrera?????
I would argue that the Sox didn't choke either (maybe Graffanino choked, but that's about it.) They weren't good enough, simple as that. Their starting pitching was weak, their bullpen was weak, and their bats have cooled off. Not a good combination and the reason why I didn't vote for them in my world series poll, as much as I love them.
Besides, don't you have to be in the lead at some point to choke, as opposed to suck?
davehead34
10-08-2005, 10:04 PM
And sorry bout your Red Sox, I was hoping to make it three years in a row. But, I gotta worry bout this damn serious.
How could you guys give up Cabrera?????
I was hoping for a Yankees/Red Sox ALCS, too. Oh well - it happens. We'll see each other again :)
It never occurred to me why we aquired the shortstop of the team we beat in the WS and got rid of the shortstop we had when we won the WS. I love Cabrera. I'm even more baffled as to why we had Bellhorn for so long. He wasn't even a decent 2nd baseman for us. I could've played better ball than him.
davehead34
10-08-2005, 10:06 PM
I would argue that the Sox didn't choke either (maybe Graffanino choked, but that's about it.) They weren't good enough, simple as that. Their starting pitching was weak, their bullpen was weak, and their bats have cooled off. Not a good combination and the reason why I didn't vote for them in my world series poll, as much as I love them.
Besides, don't you have to be in the lead at some point to choke, as opposed to suck?
I think we choked, but it wasn't a classic NE choke that we're used to seeing in the 90's with the Pats and Sox. We simply fell apart as a team. We were playing as individuals, IMHO. Not as a team.
It really does feel like 1919.
MistreatedLewis
10-08-2005, 10:11 PM
Wow dude... you're older than I thought.
davehead34
10-08-2005, 10:12 PM
Wow dude... you're older than I thought.
No, I was a Sox fan in a previous life.
davehead34
10-09-2005, 12:06 AM
"The 2004 WS Champions Boston Red Sox Thread."
:nudges Greppson:
MistreatedLewis
10-09-2005, 12:16 AM
No, I was a Sox fan in a previous life.
I'm studying reincarnation theory this week, actually. I may need to interview you.
davehead34
10-09-2005, 12:31 AM
I'm studying reincarnation theory this week, actually. I may need to interview you.
Feel free. Both lives are equally depressing and frustrating.
MistreatedLewis
10-09-2005, 12:35 AM
Feel free. Both lives are equally depressing and frustrating.
:lol
DMBfan41
10-09-2005, 01:02 AM
I was hoping for a Yankees/Red Sox ALCS, too. Oh well - it happens. We'll see each other again :)
It never occurred to me why we aquired the shortstop of the team we beat in the WS and got rid of the shortstop we had when we won the WS. I love Cabrera. I'm even more baffled as to why we had Bellhorn for so long. He wasn't even a decent 2nd baseman for us. I could've played better ball than him.
Bellhorn is a waste. I really loved how Cashman thought, hey let's get some players from the Sox, that'll really get em!!!!
Embree and Bellhorn have done wonders.
MistreatedLewis
10-09-2005, 01:03 AM
Bellhorn is a waste. I really loved how Cashman thought, hey let's get some players from the Sox, that'll really get em!!!!
Embree and Bellhorn have done wonders.
Theo got Olerud.
Didn't help too much in postseason.
Hench
10-16-2005, 06:50 PM
who the fuck changed my thread name?
Lcsulla
10-17-2005, 02:46 AM
who the fuck changed my thread name?
I'm assuming Jason did since he's the only staff member able to change titles that would bother with a Sox thread. I'd probably lose the indignant tone of your post as well since he's a moderator and a Red Sox fan. If I had done it, as a Yankee fan, the title would have been nowhere near as flattering! :)
Not even sure why you would be annoyed, it is the truth, they did win the WC.
Hench
10-19-2005, 01:09 AM
it's unneccesary, and I don't think he had any right to change it, even if the red sox had won the al east. I didn't create a thread about the red sox' 2005 accomplishment, I created one about the boston red sox. if I'd done it after last october, I wouldn't have called it "the 2004 world series champion...", I would have called it exactly what I did.
and if that's the case, why hasn't the white sox thread been changed to "american league champions" by now? is it because to most people, the baseball world only revolves around 2 teams from the northeast?
skywalker_009
10-19-2005, 01:20 AM
it's unneccesary, and I don't think he had any right to change it, even if the red sox had won the al east. I didn't create a thread about the red sox' 2005 accomplishment, I created one about the boston red sox. if I'd done it after last october, I wouldn't have called it "the 2004 world series champion...", I would have called it exactly what I did.
and if that's the case, why hasn't the white sox thread been changed to "american league champions" by now? is it because to most people, the baseball world only revolves around 2 teams from the northeast?
dude what the hell does it matter... take rod from ass and move on my man...
davehead34
10-19-2005, 02:00 AM
it's unneccesary, and I don't think he had any right to change it, even if the red sox had won the al east. I didn't create a thread about the red sox' 2005 accomplishment, I created one about the boston red sox. if I'd done it after last october, I wouldn't have called it "the 2004 world series champion...", I would have called it exactly what I did.
and if that's the case, why hasn't the white sox thread been changed to "american league champions" by now? is it because to most people, the baseball world only revolves around 2 teams from the northeast?
I'm lobbying to have the name changed to the "2004 World Series Champions Boston Red Sox Thread." :lol It's all good man. No worries - it's just a thread :)
greppson
10-19-2005, 09:05 AM
it's unneccesary, and I don't think he had any right to change it, even if the red sox had won the al east. I didn't create a thread about the red sox' 2005 accomplishment, I created one about the boston red sox. if I'd done it after last october, I wouldn't have called it "the 2004 world series champion...", I would have called it exactly what I did.
and if that's the case, why hasn't the white sox thread been changed to "american league champions" by now? is it because to most people, the baseball world only revolves around 2 teams from the northeast?
I changed it because I got a bunch of PMs and saw a bunch of posts in this thread asking for it to be changed. It was also a knock on what they did to the Yankees thread.
I'll change it back to something more regular, but come on man, you can't get with how happy fans were that we won the Wild Card?
Relax, you really are stressing about nothing. I'm really surprised that you have such an issue with this and even more surprised you didn't just PM me directly if you took issue with it.
SO... RELAX.
ProudestAnt
10-20-2005, 03:08 AM
Let the rumors begin...
http://www.bostondirtdogs.com/
Manny to the Mets for Beltran, ehhhh...
ryguy178
10-27-2005, 01:28 AM
Sox win!! Sox win!!! Sox win the world series!!!!
err...
nevermind.
MistreatedLewis
10-27-2005, 01:44 AM
Let the rumors begin...
http://www.bostondirtdogs.com/
Manny to the Mets for Beltran, ehhhh...
Yes! Let's do it! We'll even send you Vic Zambrano too!
DMBfan41
10-27-2005, 01:48 AM
Phil Gardner was with the Red Sox in 1986.
The curse of the bambino strikes again!!!!
Theo resigns!?!?
Not sure how I feel about this... On the one hand, he's got balls. On the other hand, I'm not sure he's got brains. ::shrug::
ryguy178
10-31-2005, 07:46 PM
What the fuck. Theo Theo Theo.
coyn113
10-31-2005, 07:56 PM
i did NOT see this coming, what the hell is theo thinking?
bothedmbfan
10-31-2005, 07:58 PM
Yes Theo, take a stand! Resign. No trade Manny then resign and work for the Cubs or some ohter team that will shell out the DOUGH!
ProudestAnt
10-31-2005, 08:11 PM
Yes Theo, take a stand! Resign. No trade Manny then resign and work for the Cubs or some ohter team that will shell out the DOUGH!What you just said made no sense at all. He's not going to sign with another team, he's publicly stated that he is going to take a year off then reevaluate his opportunities. I don't even know what you mean by no trade manny, so please explain...
bothedmbfan
10-31-2005, 08:18 PM
What you just said made no sense at all. He's not going to sign with another team, he's publicly stated that he is going to take a year off then reevaluate his opportunities. I don't even know what you mean by no trade manny, so please explain...
No, Trade Manny is what I meant to say.
and Theo is an idiot for deciding to take the year off. The Cubs would pay him GREAT money.
ProudestAnt
10-31-2005, 08:25 PM
No, Trade Manny is what I meant to say.
and Theo is an idiot for deciding to take the year off. The Cubs would pay him GREAT money.Manny has already made it perfectly clear that he does not want to return to the Sox next year. He is threatening not to show up to spring training if he is not traded. Unfortunately for the Sox, he is a 5 and 10 player, which means he can now veto any trade opportunity. He wants to go to either Cleveland or Anaheim. Cleveland has more to offer the Sox, especially that young CF in Sizemore and a young 2B in Belliard (who I believe is a FA anyway). I don't see the Angels having the weapons to trade for Manny, since Vlad obviously isn't an option. However, maybe the Sox can suck it up and pick up Anderson and Figgins and take the 10 mill they'll be saving and go after Konerko and perhaps Belliard and a pitcher...
bothedmbfan
10-31-2005, 08:29 PM
Manny has already made it perfectly clear that he does not want to return to the Sox next year. He is threatening not to show up to spring training if he is not traded. Unfortunately for the Sox, he is a 5 and 10 player, which means he can now veto any trade opportunity. He wants to go to either Cleveland or Anaheim. Cleveland has more to offer the Sox, especially that young CF in Sizemore and a young 2B in Belliard (who I believe is a FA anyway). I don't see the Angels having the weapons to trade for Manny, since Vlad obviously isn't an option. However, maybe the Sox can suck it up and pick up Anderson and Figgins and take the 10 mill they'll be saving and go after Konerko and perhaps Belliard and a pitcher...
Well I heard that Konerko is going to be a free agent, and that if he is, they don't have enouigh money for the re-sign.
The Indians won't trade Siesmore, although Wickman mohgt not be out of the picture.
MistreatedLewis
10-31-2005, 10:49 PM
No, Trade Manny is what I meant to say.
and Theo is an idiot for deciding to take the year off. The Cubs would pay him GREAT money.
There's more to life than $$$.
ProudestAnt
10-31-2005, 11:55 PM
Well I heard that Konerko is going to be a free agent, and that if he is, they don't have enouigh money for the re-sign.
The Indians won't trade Siesmore, although Wickman mohgt not be out of the picture.Konerko will be a free agent and the White Sox won't have enough money to resign him. Obviously the front runners are the Yankees and the Red Sox. Wickman is also a free agent, so he won't be an option to trade. I don't think Sizemore is totally out of the picture, as they could move Crisp to center and obviously Manny in left...
bothedmbfan
10-31-2005, 11:56 PM
Konerko will be a free agent and the White Sox won't have enough money to resign him. Obviously the front runners are the Yankees and the Red Sox. Wickman is also a free agent, so he won't be an option to trade. I don't think Sizemore is totally out of the picture, as they could move Crisp to center and obviously Manny in left...
they'll resign Wickman the first chance they get, they got the money.
bothedmbfan
10-31-2005, 11:57 PM
There's more to life than $$$.
But not more to business.
ryguy178
11-01-2005, 12:02 AM
Maybe he wants to have a baby with some girl and be a father.
Katie maybe he's taking applications.
ProudestAnt
11-01-2005, 12:08 AM
they'll resign Wickman the first chance they get, they got the money.Don't be so sure, he's not that good...
bothedmbfan
11-01-2005, 12:09 AM
Don't be so sure, he's not that good...
all those saves, they better, maybe just to get Manny.
ProudestAnt
11-01-2005, 12:12 AM
all those saves, they better, maybe just to get Manny.If you think the sox will trade manny for wickman straight up, you are a fool...
And Wickman is NOT that good. John Rocker had a shit-ton of saves in the day too...
bothedmbfan
11-01-2005, 12:13 AM
If you think the sox will trade manny for wickman straight up, you are a fool...
not just for wickman, but for wickman and...
ProudestAnt
11-01-2005, 12:16 AM
not just for wickman, but for wickman and...Wickman and who? The Sox have said they want an OF and a corner IF and possibly a RP for Manny, unless the Tribe is willing to part with Size, I doubt it's gonna happen...
bothedmbfan
11-01-2005, 12:18 AM
Wickman and who? The Sox have said they want an OF and a corner IF and possibly a RP for Manny, unless the Tribe is willing to part with Size, I doubt it's gonna happen...
they might. hey Coco Crisp(coolest name ever) would be good for trade, or replacing Seizmore.
ProudestAnt
11-01-2005, 12:19 AM
they might. hey Coco Crisp(coolest name ever) would be good for trade, or replacing Seizmore.The Sox won't take Crisp, he's not the callibur of player to replace the production of Manny, even in a package. Sizemore and Belliard for Manny, I'm calling it now....
ProudestAnt
11-03-2005, 07:06 PM
Newest news on the Manny exodus. Manny to the Angels for 1B/CF Darren Erstad and a couple prospects. Adding a third team, Arizona will send 3B Troy Glaus to the Red Sox, while the Angels send players to be named to the Diamondbacks. This isn't a done deal, but all three teams are interested.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb/angels/la-spw-newswire02nov02,1,6777029.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-mlb-angels
davehead34
11-03-2005, 08:15 PM
I'm not really wanting to talk about the Sox right now. Even the Sports Guy is saying that Johnny D. is outta here. :(
ProudestAnt
11-03-2005, 08:32 PM
I'm not really wanting to talk about the Sox right now. Even the Sports Guy is saying that Johnny D. is outta here. :(That's why this deal for Manny is so clutch. If JD doesn't come back, we're gonna need a CF, that's where Erstad comes in. Also, with the addition of Glaus, we can move Youk to first, where he can upgrade or defense. Then all we need to focus on is signing a LF and some pitchers, but Burnett is a FA this year as well...
MistreatedLewis
11-03-2005, 10:32 PM
Newest news on the Manny exodus. Manny to the Angels for 1B/CF Darren Erstad and a couple prospects. Adding a third team, Arizona will send 3B Troy Glaus to the Red Sox, while the Angels send players to be named to the Diamondbacks. This isn't a done deal, but all three teams are interested.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb/angels/la-spw-newswire02nov02,1,6777029.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-mlb-angels
Interesting. I'm still hoping to see Manny on the Mets... but I could see where this deal would go a much longer way to helping the Sox than anything the Mets have to offer (or would be willing to...)
MistreatedLewis
11-03-2005, 10:34 PM
That's why this deal for Manny is so clutch. If JD doesn't come back, we're gonna need a CF, that's where Erstad comes in. Also, with the addition of Glaus, we can move Youk to first, where he can upgrade or defense. Then all we need to focus on is signing a LF and some pitchers, but Burnett is a FA this year as well...
Where is this info about Damon bolting coming from?
Also... I don't think I like Burnett enough to see the Sox sign him. I think the Sox would be overpaying for a mediocre pitcher.
ProudestAnt
11-04-2005, 04:51 AM
Where is this info about Damon bolting coming from?
Also... I don't think I like Burnett enough to see the Sox sign him. I think the Sox would be overpaying for a mediocre pitcher.The general consensus is that Theo was a big attraction to JD. He has publically berated the Sox for not securing Theo again. Also, Burnett is probably the best FA pitcher on the market. Although he will be overpayed, he will hopefully pull off 15 or so wins for them. Don't count on Manny going to the Mets, he has already stated he wants to go to LAA and since he's a five and ten player, he can veto any trade. He won't go to NY, either team...
MistreatedLewis
11-04-2005, 12:16 PM
The general consensus is that Theo was a big attraction to JD. He has publically berated the Sox for not securing Theo again. Also, Burnett is probably the best FA pitcher on the market. Although he will be overpayed, he will hopefully pull off 15 or so wins for them. Don't count on Manny going to the Mets, he has already stated he wants to go to LAA and since he's a five and ten player, he can veto any trade. He won't go to NY, either team...
Burnett may be the best free agent pitcher on the market (although Millwood had a far better year), but I am a big fan of not investing in mediocracy just because it is the best available. The Sox have some good arms in the farm, and some pretty decent arms still in the rotation (Perhaps Miller will be playing this year?) Figuring out offense and bullpen is certainly a more pressing need than starting rotation at this particular moment.
I've heard that about Manny but I'm not convinced he won't end up in Queens anyway. It all depends on a) Who will give the Sox the best bang for the buck and b) How important it REALLY is for Manny to be traded
ProudestAnt
11-04-2005, 01:49 PM
Burnett may be the best free agent pitcher on the market (although Millwood had a far better year), but I am a big fan of not investing in mediocracy just because it is the best available. The Sox have some good arms in the farm, and some pretty decent arms still in the rotation (Perhaps Miller will be playing this year?) Figuring out offense and bullpen is certainly a more pressing need than starting rotation at this particular moment.
I've heard that about Manny but I'm not convinced he won't end up in Queens anyway. It all depends on a) Who will give the Sox the best bang for the buck and b) How important it REALLY is for Manny to be tradedIt's important enough to him to get where he wants to go. The fact that this three team deal is VERY appealing to the Sox, may just get him to LAA...
MistreatedLewis
11-04-2005, 03:04 PM
It's important enough to him to get where he wants to go. The fact that this three team deal is VERY appealing to the Sox, may just get him to LAA...
Do you think Glaus and Erstad are enough to make up for his production?
ProudestAnt
11-05-2005, 05:20 AM
Do you think Glaus and Erstad are enough to make up for his production?As I've said in some other threads, I honestly don't believe there is any player in the league that can replace his production. However, there are 4 clear holes in our defense, 3rd, 1st, CF and LF if Manny leaves. Two will be filled with Glaus and Erstad and another by JD if we get him. If we don't, then we can essentially fill 3 positions with Glaus at 3rd, Youk at 1st and Erstad in CF...
greppson
11-05-2005, 11:58 AM
See, I think 3rd base is not a hole in our defense. Mueller was rock solid there this year, his offensive production is what was lacking.
Granted, Mueller doesn't have a deal anymore if I am correct...
MistreatedLewis
11-05-2005, 12:57 PM
See, I think 3rd base is not a hole in our defense. Mueller was rock solid there this year, his offensive production is what was lacking.
Granted, Mueller doesn't have a deal anymore if I am correct...
It's not great but it's not horrible either. BA is .292 which is certainly respectable, although his power isn't quite to the level a good 3rd baseman should be.
Mickey Carson
11-05-2005, 04:41 PM
I'm taking a trip out to Boston in mid-June and the Sox will be at Fenway for a 3-game home stand against the Nationals...I'm praying that I'll be able to get tickets and finally see a game at Fenway. I need some knowledge from die-hard Sox fans...the games will be Mon-Wed...is it automatic that Fenway will be sold out? Will it be really hard to get a pair of tickets?
ProudestAnt
11-05-2005, 05:22 PM
See, I think 3rd base is not a hole in our defense. Mueller was rock solid there this year, his offensive production is what was lacking.
Granted, Mueller doesn't have a deal anymore if I am correct...By a hole, I meant Mueller being a FA and Youk not so proven. Also, Jose Guillen is a FA, but the Nats should resign him...
MistreatedLewis
11-05-2005, 07:49 PM
By a hole, I meant Mueller being a FA and Youk not so proven. Also, Jose Guillen is a FA, but the Nats should resign him...
Would you favor resigning Mueller if the Manny deal doesn't work out?
ProudestAnt
11-05-2005, 08:13 PM
Would you favor resigning Mueller if the Manny deal doesn't work out?Would I personally? No. Youk has waited in the shadows long enough IMHO. It's time for him to start on this team, whether it be at 1st or 3rd. If the Manny deal falls through, they need to go hard after Konerko and put Kapler in CF and just forget about JD. I think JD has seen his best years pass him the past 3 in Boston...
MistreatedLewis
11-05-2005, 08:29 PM
Would I personally? No. Youk has waited in the shadows long enough IMHO. It's time for him to start on this team, whether it be at 1st or 3rd. If the Manny deal falls through, they need to go hard after Konerko and put Kapler in CF and just forget about JD. I think JD has seen his best years pass him the past 3 in Boston...
You're probably right about Damon, although I think over the next two years he'll provide a lot more production than Kapler would. Not sure what the right move there is...
ProudestAnt
11-05-2005, 09:01 PM
You're probably right about Damon, although I think over the next two years he'll provide a lot more production than Kapler would. Not sure what the right move there is...One thing a lot of people don't know about Kapler is he's a very productive hitter. He can go deep more often than Damon, he has the range in the outfield to play CF and has a gun for an arm. Plus, his speed equals Damon's, but he is a great stealer as well, which is one thing Damon is not. He'd make for a good replacement, I would even argue an upgrade, for at least a year, until the FA market gets more appealing...
smeritt
11-05-2005, 10:03 PM
I personally always was more scared of Kapler than Damon. Then Damon pulled the game of his fucking career out of his ass on the Yanks. Still thats a one and a million game. Kapler > Damon
davehead34
11-06-2005, 12:46 AM
I personally always was more scared of Kapler than Damon. Then Damon pulled the game of his fucking career out of his ass on the Yanks. Still thats a one and a million game. Kapler > Damon
Sorry, Sean, but I'm really going to disagree with you bro. Damon is a much stronger player than Gabe.
Raven 21
11-06-2005, 01:29 AM
yea i concur
ProudestAnt
11-06-2005, 03:13 AM
Sorry, Sean, but I'm really going to disagree with you bro. Damon is a much stronger player than Gabe.Based on stats, yes. But let's be honest, how much has Gab been able to show in the small stints he's played in? Give him a chance to relax and settle in and you'll change your mind...
smeritt
11-06-2005, 10:42 AM
Based on stats, yes. But let's be honest, how much has Gab been able to show in the small stints he's played in? Give him a chance to relax and settle in and you'll change your mind...My thoughts exactly. He's never been on the field every single day. It's difficult to put a guy on the field cold and expect him to produce better than an all star centerfielder. Just from what I've seen him do off the bench, he has potential to be better than JD
Ascf33
11-06-2005, 01:01 PM
Does anyone know when the MVP gets announced??
ProudestAnt
11-07-2005, 08:41 PM
Nov. 14. They did a mock press conference for the Sox today on SC. Worst segment I've seen on that show in a long time. They're doing it for the Yanks tomorrow. Basically what they said was a "no shit" situation. They're going hard after Damon, Konerko and if a Manny trade happens, it'll be early in the post season. Blah blah blah. What struck me as interesting was a comment about perhaps looking into getting Adam Dunn for the vacant 1B spot and trading for Torii Hunter if the Damon deal falls through. Sucked, but I'll watch the Yanks tomorrow and laugh just like I did today because it's so stupid...
skywalker_009
11-07-2005, 08:43 PM
Nov. 14. They did a mock press conference for the Sox today on SC. Worst segment I've seen on that show in a long time. They're doing it for the Yanks tomorrow. Basically what they said was a "no shit" situation. They're going hard after Damon, Konerko and if a Manny trade happens, it'll be early in the post season. Blah blah blah. What struck me as interesting was a comment about perhaps looking into getting Adam Dunn for the vacant 1B spot and trading for Torii Hunter if the Damon deal falls through. Sucked, but I'll watch the Yanks tomorrow and laugh just like I did today because it's so stupid...
the yanks was tonight... but yes, very, very dumb... they are doing the cubs tomorrow...
MistreatedLewis
11-08-2005, 08:29 PM
I love his bat, but what the fuck is wrong with Manny Ramirez?
ProudestAnt
11-10-2005, 02:23 PM
Manny officially gave his agent permission to work with the Red Sox to explore trade talks yesterday. Looks like his days as a Red Sock are up. Hopefully the Glaus/Erstad/Finley deal works out...
MistreatedLewis
11-11-2005, 09:44 PM
Manny officially gave his agent permission to work with the Red Sox to explore trade talks yesterday. Looks like his days as a Red Sock are up. Hopefully the Glaus/Erstad/Finley deal works out...
I'm still not convinced he's leaving, though I would gladly welcome Manny Ramirez as a Met.
ProudestAnt
11-12-2005, 01:57 AM
I'm still not convinced he's leaving, though I would gladly welcome Manny Ramirez as a Met.The Mets have been mentioned as a possibility, but I honestly don't see them having the personel to get the trade done, especially since the Sox have said they don't want Beltran. The only chance for Manny to go to the Mets is if the Huff/Baez deal gets done with the D-Rays, then the Mets can offer Cameron, Huff and a relief pitcher for Manny. If that deal doesn't go through, then I'd look for the Angels to take a hard run at him, but if it's not the Mets, I really don't think it's gonna happen.
In other news, the Sox made an offer to Damon today, which is good or bad depending on how you look at things. He'll be a Sock next year as the Yanks aren't expected to make a hard run at him and they were the only risk to the Sox resigning him.
The Wells deal has been discussed as well. Word is he'll be moving back to SD in exchange for a pitcher, most likely Akinori Otsuka and possibly Dave Roberts.
Also, Dayton Moore, the hotshot product of the Braves player developement department is rumored to be the early front-runner for the GM spot. He had a second interview on Wed. Moore is credited for discovering many of the up and coming stars in the Braves roster...
GWDMB
11-12-2005, 03:10 AM
I'm taking a trip out to Boston in mid-June and the Sox will be at Fenway for a 3-game home stand against the Nationals...I'm praying that I'll be able to get tickets and finally see a game at Fenway. I need some knowledge from die-hard Sox fans...the games will be Mon-Wed...is it automatic that Fenway will be sold out? Will it be really hard to get a pair of tickets?
Check redsox.com in early Feb. and make sure you know the on-sale date for tickets. If you are online when they go on sale, you should be able to get tickets. However, the season WILL be sold out by the end of the first day the tickets go onsale (assuming the front office doesn't dismantle the team in the meantime), so make sure you remember to buy the ticks in Feb.
MistreatedLewis
11-12-2005, 07:21 PM
The Wells deal has been discussed as well. Word is he'll be moving back to SD in exchange for a pitcher, most likely Akinori Otsuka and possibly Dave Roberts.
Is there really a better CF options for you guys? He's a great leadoff hitter, can hit in the clutch, and knows the terrain in Boston, plus is insanely popular and has cool hair.
Who would be better? Furcal? Mike Cameron? Dave Roberts? Bernie Williams?
ProudestAnt
11-14-2005, 01:42 PM
Is there really a better CF options for you guys? He's a great leadoff hitter, can hit in the clutch, and knows the terrain in Boston, plus is insanely popular and has cool hair.
Who would be better? Furcal? Mike Cameron? Dave Roberts? Bernie Williams?Obviously JD is the best option for us at CF. The reason we're targeting Roberts is for a fill-in CF who can play every position. However, I've been an arguer for Dave Kapler as a full-time OF for a while. I feel that he can do the job that JD does, maybe even better. He'll need a season to get used to things, but I don't feel the need to overpay Damon in order to keep him when we have a great replacement just waiting to get to it...
jfreed009
11-14-2005, 01:50 PM
Obviously JD is the best option for us at CF. The reason we're targeting Roberts is for a fill-in CF who can play every position. However, I've been an arguer for Dave Kapler as a full-time OF for a while. I feel that he can do the job that JD does, maybe even better. He'll need a season to get used to things, but I don't feel the need to overpay Damon in order to keep him when we have a great replacement just waiting to get to it...
First off i dont know who Dave Kapler is I only know Gabe Kapler and I'm even a Yankees fan, and second how could you say that Kapler would fill the shoes of Damon. He's not half the player he is offensively or defensively.
greppson
11-14-2005, 01:52 PM
give kapler more time in the box and i say he will be produce more offensively.
ProudestAnt
11-14-2005, 02:09 PM
First off i dont know who Dave Kapler is I only know Gabe Kapler and I'm even a Yankees fan, and second how could you say that Kapler would fill the shoes of Damon. He's not half the player he is offensively or defensively. Kapler is a better player defensively then Damon is because of the difference in arm strength. Kapler is as fast as Damon, gets a better jump on the ball than Damon AND has twice the arm that Damon has. Second, give Kapler more time in the box, and he'll be a better hitter than Damon because of his power...
ProudestAnt
11-17-2005, 04:44 AM
Looks like one more year of Manny being Manny. The Angels announced that they were going in a different direction, meaning probably taking a run at Konerko, and the Mets traded Cameron today, who would have had to have been included in a deal with the Mets. So, one more year of Manny at least...
MistreatedLewis
11-17-2005, 01:18 PM
Looks like one more year of Manny being Manny. The Angels announced that they were going in a different direction, meaning probably taking a run at Konerko, and the Mets traded Cameron today, who would have had to have been included in a deal with the Mets. So, one more year of Manny at least...
Will Boston get Damon?
ProudestAnt
11-17-2005, 02:57 PM
Will Boston get Damon? Only if his asking price goes down, which I think it will. He put in a bid for 7/$84 mil. That's outrageous and there's no way the Sox will pay that for him. He wants a 5 year deal minimum from what he said earlier in the season. The Yanks, who were supposedly out of the running for him are now back in with new news revolving Giles. Aparantly, when Giles signed his contract, he had a limited no-trade clause in it. The Yanks were one of the teams he specified that he could not be traded to. So this news puts the Yanks back in the running for Damon. They said they would be interested in Damon at the range of 4/$44 mil. If it gets to that price, the Sox will get him by adding an option for a fifth year.
In other news, it appers the Manny-to-the-Mets deal isn't finished yet. Aparantly, Ramirez is Minaya's "holy grail" of this off-season and the Sox did NOT have their eyes on Cameron as previously thought. The only person that the Sox have their eyes on are young stud Lastings Milledge. If a Ramirez deal were going to go down, it would be sooner rather than later and will definitely include Milledge, who is one of the most prized members of the Mets system. He is believed to have the potential to be a .330 BA, 25+ HR, 100+ RBI, 25+ steal guy. I for one hope the Damon deal doesn't go down so we push for this kid, he sounds exciting. Plus, with Kapler, there's a back-up if he doesn't cut it the way we hoped...
MistreatedLewis
11-17-2005, 03:20 PM
In other news, it appers the Manny-to-the-Mets deal isn't finished yet. Aparantly, Ramirez is Minaya's "holy grail" of this off-season and the Sox did NOT have their eyes on Cameron as previously thought. The only person that the Sox have their eyes on are young stud Lastings Milledge. If a Ramirez deal were going to go down, it would be sooner rather than later and will definitely include Milledge, who is one of the most prized members of the Mets system. He is believed to have the potential to be a .330 BA, 25+ HR, 100+ RBI, 25+ steal guy. I for one hope the Damon deal doesn't go down so we push for this kid, he sounds exciting. Plus, with Kapler, there's a back-up if he doesn't cut it the way we hoped...
I am very conflicted on whether or not I'd want to give up Milledge, even for Ramirez. Prospects don't always pan out but I fear the ghost of Scott Kazmir. Additionally, Manny is getting older and is clueless in the outfield. On the other hand, with the exceptions of Bonds and Pujols, and possibly A-Rod, Manny is the best hitter in baseball. The Mets NEED a guy like that.
I am so torn.
ProudestAnt
11-17-2005, 07:53 PM
Red Sox made an offer to JD yesterday. The offer was 3 years in the area of $27-30 mil with a possible option for a 4th year involved. Sounds to me like the Sox are laying off Damon, possibly hoping to steal him away from this market. With Cameron going to the Padres, it helps the Sox, as a possible Wells+ for Cameron deal could be in the making. Also, word is the Manny deal would be for a number of prospects, definitely including Milledge, and probably including Aaron Heilman and Yusmeiro Petit...
ProudestAnt
11-21-2005, 03:23 PM
The Sox are reportedly in the running to acquire right-hander Josh Beckett and 3B Mike Lowell from the Marlins. The Sox would send infield prospect Hanely Ramirez and LHP John Lester or RHP Anibal Sanchez to the Marlins. Although the Marlins would be obviously more interested in Lester, who is said to be the prize of the Red Sox pitching prospects. The Rangers have a better offer on the table with all-star Hank Blalock and a top-pitching prospect to the Marlins. It appears that the Sox are the fall-back team in this equation, but at least they're in the running in my opinion...
smeritt
11-21-2005, 09:44 PM
Just heard this trade rumor on ESPN and pretty much seems like a done deal. As a Yankee fan this trade worries me. You'd have one of the top young pitchers in the game and Lowell aint to bad either. If this goes down the Sox will have one of the best staffs in the AL . One would think Cashman could duplicate such a deal but no Steinbrennar has his head so far up his ass he cant can taste would he had for breakfast.
ProudestAnt
11-21-2005, 10:03 PM
Just heard this trade rumor on ESPN and pretty much seems like a done deal. As a Yankee fan this trade worries me. You'd have one of the top young pitchers in the game and Lowell aint to bad either. If this goes down the Sox will have one of the best staffs in the AL . One would think Cashman could duplicate such a deal but no Steinbrennar has his head so far up his ass he cant can taste would he had for breakfast.Potential staff this year for the Sox, with this trade that is:
Schilling
Beckett
Burnett
Clement
Arroyo/Papelbon
Looks tasty for a Sox fan...
ProudestAnt
11-21-2005, 10:26 PM
Line-up as it stands right now for the Sox...
CF: Damon/Giles (we'll get one the Yanks will get the other)
SS: Renteria
DH: Ortiz
LF: Ramirez (he's not leaving either)
C: Varitek
3B: Lowell
RF: Nixon
2B: Pediora/Cora (they'll split time until the youngester gets into the groove)
1B: Youkilis (he can play first with Lowell playing 3rd)
Starters:
Beckett
Schilling
Burnett (is there really a doubt that we'll land him?)
Clement
Wakefield
Pen:
Arroyo
Papelbon
Timilin
Foulke
Hansen
Lester
Miller
Myers (hoping at least)
Shaping up nicely so far...
MistreatedLewis
11-22-2005, 04:25 AM
Potential staff this year for the Sox, with this trade that is:
Schilling
Beckett
Burnett
Clement
Arroyo/Papelbon
Looks tasty for a Sox fan...
I don't see Burnett hapennings, but it looks like Beckett will at this point.
ProudestAnt
11-22-2005, 04:40 AM
I don't see Burnett hapennings, but it looks like Beckett will at this point.It's possible Burnett won't be targeted now that we have Beckett, if so, this will be the line-up next season.
Schilling (giving way to Lester as the season goes on)
Beckett
Clement
Papelbon
Wakefield
Pen:
Lester/Schilling
Arroyo
Mantei
Myers (hopefully)
Hansen
Martinez
Delcarmen
Bradford
Timlin
Farnsworth (hopefully)
Foulke
MistreatedLewis
11-22-2005, 02:58 PM
With each passing day, I am more convinced MannY Ramirez is an idiot.
Amazing hitter, but what a jerk.
zigbaldi
11-25-2005, 03:06 AM
now mota is included in the sox trade. if he returns to his 2004 form then this is a great trade
ProudestAnt
11-26-2005, 01:37 AM
now mota is included in the sox trade. if he returns to his 2004 form then this is a great tradeThe Sox are now getting WAY more in this trade than we should be. Unfortunately, word is the Sox are concerned about Beckett's shoulder following his physical and that's why Mota had to be included in the deal. The Sox threatened to cancel, so maybe Beckett's shoulder isn't up to snuff. Regardless, getting a great 3B and above-average pen guy for what we gave up is more than enough, if we can add a Cy Younger, power to the Sox...
ProudestAnt
11-28-2005, 02:29 PM
New news out of Sox camp, with BJ Ryan now off the market (signed with the Jays) the Sox are expected to take a hard run at Billy Wagner. The price-tag for him is expected to get near $12 million a year for at least three years.
The Sox are also reportedly looking into two first basemen. One being Milwaukee's Lyle Overbay. The trade for Overbay would involved either Clement or Arroyo as the Brewers need pitching. The other is the Rangers young first base prospect Adrian Gonzalez. He would reportedly be in a platoon situation with Kevin Youkilis.
Aparantly, the Sox are taking one final run at Johnny Damon. They will make him "the maximum offer we see fit" to the Center Fielder before they reportedly will start kicking tires on acquiring Torii Hunter. The Sox obviously have bargaining chips with the Twins in Kevin Youkilis, who the Twins have looked at trading for repeatedly, as well as Bronson Arroyo, who is a solid end-of-the-rotation pitcher.
Manny is gone, reportedly he is sick of Boston and although he does not want to go to New York, he said he will if it's "the only way out of Boston." The Mets reported that they are close to landing the big man, and "have a chance" at making it an even offer for both teams. The trade would obviously include Lastings Milledge, even though the Mets allowed an deal for Alfonso Soriano fall through because they did not want to include Milledge. There is "no way this deal will happen" without the young prospect...
MistreatedLewis
11-28-2005, 08:40 PM
New news out of Sox camp, with BJ Ryan now off the market (signed with the Jays) the Sox are expected to take a hard run at Billy Wagner.
So much for that idea. ;)
ProudestAnt
11-29-2005, 05:30 AM
So much for that idea. ;)Yea, I was never sold on the idea myself. We have a bigger pen than last year already with the addition of Mota, if we can sign Myers and Farnsworth, we're going to be nasty through and through even without a solid closer...
ProudestAnt
11-29-2005, 04:58 PM
More news on Manny. Word is the Mets are willing to give up Cliff Floyd, Lastings Milledge and Aaron Heilman for Manny IF the Sox are willing to pick up a portion of Manny's salary for last year. I think it's the best we're going to get and if it gets that guy out and gives us a reasonable replacement plus to premier prospects, go for it. I think the deal is closer to being done than the Sox are letting out; Manny put his house up for sale today...
More news on Manny. Word is the Mets are willing to give up Cliff Floyd, Lastings Milledge and Aaron Heilman for Manny IF the Sox are willing to pick up a portion of Manny's salary for last year. I think it's the best we're going to get and if it gets that guy out and gives us a reasonable replacement plus to premier prospects, go for it. I think the deal is closer to being done than the Sox are letting out; Manny put his house up for sale today...
Are you Peter Gammons?
MistreatedLewis
11-29-2005, 05:07 PM
More news on Manny. Word is the Mets are willing to give up Cliff Floyd, Lastings Milledge and Aaron Heilman for Manny IF the Sox are willing to pick up a portion of Manny's salary for last year. I think it's the best we're going to get and if it gets that guy out and gives us a reasonable replacement plus to premier prospects, go for it. I think the deal is closer to being done than the Sox are letting out; Manny put his house up for sale today...
Ick... as a Mets fan I'm still really torn... I hate to see Milledge go...
Ick... as a Mets fan I'm still really torn... I hate to see Milledge go...
Now you're beginning to see how Yankees' fans feel. Feels a little dirty, huh?
ProudestAnt
11-29-2005, 05:14 PM
Are you Peter Gammons?No, I'm just very on top of things going on in Sox camp. The insider Sox website is my homepage and I'm on it at least 30 times a day. I'm also on Red Sox message boards more than I am here. I like to call myself antsmarching's Peter Gammons...
MistreatedLewis
11-29-2005, 08:37 PM
Now you're beginning to see how Yankees' fans feel. Feels a little dirty, huh?
I think everything Omar has done so far is great... but yeah... trading Milledge for Manny would be really kind of uncomfortable... ick
smeritt
11-29-2005, 08:49 PM
I think everything Omar has done so far is great... but yeah... trading Milledge for Manny would be really kind of uncomfortable... ickBut it wouldnt certainly set your team up as the most potent offense in the NL IMO. Think about it delgado, manny,beltran(who will turn it around), wright. You would put up a fight in a homerun game .
ProudestAnt
12-02-2005, 03:13 PM
Ok, so it's not going to be Manny for Abreu, but the Phils said that they'd be interested in listening to offers from the Sox for Bobby still. Can you imagine a trade of Clement + Nixon for Abreu? The Sox lineup would look as such...
CF-Damon
SS-Renteria
DH-Ortiz
LF-Ramirez (I'm thinking less and less that he's leaving)
RF-Abreu
C-Varitek
3B-Lowell
2B-Pediora/Cora/Easley/Graffanino (dunno yet)
1B-Youkilis
mmmmmmmmmmm...
ProudestAnt
12-03-2005, 09:49 PM
New news. The Padres have contacted the Sox and offered 2B Mark Loretta for LHP David Wells and C Doug Mirabelli. I personally like the trade, but if the Sox are going to include Doug, they're going to ask for more. Perhaps RP Otsuka...
ProudestAnt
12-07-2005, 07:00 PM
B-E-A-UTIFUL signing trade finishing up today. Mirabelli is heading to San Diego for 2B Mark Loretta. Talk about a stopgap for the Sox this year. Line-up looking as such at this point...
CF- Damon (Deal is close)
2B- Loretta
DH- Ortiz
LF- Ramirez (he's not going anywhere)
C- Varitek
RF- Nixon
3B- Lowell
1B- Youkilis
SS- Renteria (best 9 hitter in the game by the end of this season)
ProudestAnt
12-08-2005, 02:07 PM
Well, Loretta has come and Renteria has gone.
Renteria has been traded to the Braves for Marte (best prospect in the game). Dunno who's going to play SS, but I'm sure this front office will figure something out. They've done phenominal thus far...
Lugo. We'll land him for the douchebag we picked up.
dmbnj79
12-08-2005, 02:18 PM
What's this rumor I'm hearing about Manny for Soriano?
SatelliteEyes
12-08-2005, 02:20 PM
Great trade. Renteria has been somehow living off of a career year in 2003. 10 million for him?? I questioned the signing last year, but to get Marte back - great job. Now just dont go muck it up by giving Marte away. Your lineup is good enough with the way it is, go out and get a cheap defensive SS.
malarks26
12-08-2005, 02:23 PM
They are going to trade Marte to the Devil Rays for Julio Lugo.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2252297
Also, Soriano just got traded to the Nationals, so the Sox won't be getting him.
ProudestAnt
12-08-2005, 05:47 PM
Marte's not going anywhere. The Sox are prepared to use a combination of Alex Cora and Dustin Pediora at SS unless something else catches their eye. If the Sox were going to get Lugo with Marte, the D-Rays would have been involved in the three-team deal that was discussed earlier that would have sent Lugo to the Sox and Marte to the D-Rays. Plus, Lugo sucks...
ProudestAnt
12-09-2005, 01:48 AM
Miguel Tejada has officially demanded a trade from the Baltimore Orioles. With the recent movement of Edgar Renteria and as close as Ortiz and Tejada are, one might wonder if maybe the Sox were tipped off about this trade demand and acted quickly to unload some cash. Tejada has been quoted as saying he wants to go to an East Coast team and the Red Sox were the only team he mentioned specifically.
With Ortiz, Marte and now possibly Tejada, that would give the Sox four Dominicans with Manny. This may convince Manny to stay with the Sox. The Sox definitely have what the Os want in pitching and a Right Fielder. Quick news out of Sox camp has a possible deal of Lester (LHP), Arroyo (RHP) and Nixon (RF), with a possibility of adding Clement (RHP) or Youkilis (3B/1B) and taking out any combination with the exception of Lester.
Imagine Tejada, Ortiz and Ramirez batting 3, 4, 5 in any combination (probably Ortiz, Ramirez, Tejada). I would venture a guess that they would become the greatest 3-4-5 combination in the history of baseball...
ali815
12-09-2005, 06:22 AM
I'm a little bummed that Olerud is retiring. I was hoping for another year out of him, but it has definitely been a good run. I hear he wants to do some local high school stuff back home in Seattle...I'm all for anything he ends up doing, whether it be with baseball or just a peaceful retirement.
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