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jerenello
06-27-2004, 01:19 AM
I am defintely surprised to see no Two Step yet, I just hope they break it out for SPAC, what do you all think?

mxz440fan
06-27-2004, 01:21 AM
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have fun.

phunky420
06-27-2004, 01:23 AM
http://antsmarching.org/forum/search.php?

have fun.

LOL

Yes Two Step is good. Its not like its a rare song so i'm sure we will see it soon.

I'm looking forward to Proudest Monkey.

coolhotwaves
06-27-2004, 01:26 AM
I'm more worried about not bartender or lie in our graves yet. Two Step is kinda getting old with the long drawn out butch solos. Kinda redundant.

phunky420
06-27-2004, 01:28 AM
I've only seen lIOG once..so i need to see it again :)
I would not mind if i don't see two step this year. Too many other songs i would rather see.

ugahairydawgs
06-27-2004, 01:28 AM
I am more suprised that we haven't seen Watchtower yet.

Holemandaddy
06-27-2004, 01:28 AM
eh, they only played LIOG twice last year and bartender could be getting a break. I wouldn't be surprised if Two Step is getting a small break as well

jerenello
06-27-2004, 01:31 AM
oooh defintely, I would love to see Bartender, Ive never seen it...I guess two step was the first song to pop in my head, but the intro's are always off the wall...so worth it

phunky420
06-27-2004, 01:31 AM
I've seen watchtower enough. Its a great song but i would rather see other rare songs.

Like:
LIOG
Say Goodbye
Halloween
Proudest Monkey
Dreaming Tree
Spoon
Minarets

And so forth...

twosteppn36
06-27-2004, 01:33 AM
they didnt break watchtower out until mid tour last summer as well

giddy
06-27-2004, 01:33 AM
two step and watchtower can go on the shelf till '07 and i won't make a peep

dmbfan524
06-27-2004, 01:35 AM
no 41 yet either...we need more rare songs tho


typical
minarets
pay for what you get
let you down

etc....

Gary
06-27-2004, 01:35 AM
I won't miss Two Step this year, has been played plenty lately and takes up a lot of time in the set.

DJ Naga Pampa
06-27-2004, 01:36 AM
im hoping to see Seek Up as well

Stewie
06-27-2004, 01:44 AM
no #41, pig, say goodbye, last stop, spoon, proudest monkey, minarets, busted stuff, let you down, cry freedom, so right, big eyed fish, i'll back you up, lover lay down, seek up, digging a ditch, you never know, captain, kit kat jam, bartender. and some more but i cant remember cause it's late.

busted stuff the album is getting neglected.

Holemandaddy
06-27-2004, 01:49 AM
they didnt break watchtower out until mid tour last summer as well
7/15 to be exact

and it kicked ass. they also played say goodbye and minarets->typical in that show

Holemandaddy
06-27-2004, 01:50 AM
busted stuff the album is getting neglected.
fine with me

all i like is big eyed fish->bartender, grey street, and YNK

JonahB41
06-27-2004, 01:53 AM
im ok without two step for now, i really want to see Typical Situation and Cry Freedom return, and without a doubt, i could really use some You Never Know

j

Virtuoso
06-27-2004, 02:11 AM
Im definetly surprized to see no two step. yes it is played quite a bit but thats not enough reason for me not to want to hear it be played. the jams and intro are just so amazing they take me off into another world. yes it does take a lot of setlist time but DMB always plays between 20 to 23 songs per show so it all good. watchtower is a little different. i would like to see more songs in place of that instead of two step.

Myke

Vanman0254
06-27-2004, 03:33 AM
They wouldnt be "rare" songs if he played them every summer...give it time. Still early.

Andy

ethaxton
06-27-2004, 03:48 AM
I've guessed it the last 2 nights as a an encore closer. Im really surprised it hasnt been played.

Gregb486
06-27-2004, 04:15 AM
:( :( :(

tarkus22
06-27-2004, 04:18 AM
would be nice to hear
typical
minarets
blue water

BustedJeff
06-27-2004, 04:28 AM
There are a bunch of songs missing besides Two Step.

binderhead
06-27-2004, 04:29 AM
(grins) What about Blue Water, Spotlight, or Get In Line? (/grins)

Seriously, I'm sure they will play it within the next two or three shows, although I'm almost sick of hearing 10 minute Two Steps, and 7 minute Everyday album tunes. Don't get me wrong, I'm one of the few people who doesn't completely denounce the whole album, but they are 4 minutes at best. I DO LIKE THE EVERYDAY ALBUM. I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU "PURISTS" SAY. I've been listening to them since 93, AND THE EVERYDAY ALBUM IS OKAY... I'm glad they haven't played Two Step, just a little bit. Has anyone else noticed that the 12/19/98 Chicago CD is the only live album NOT to have Two Step somewhere??? Won't it be great if they release another live album from this tour, and it's one of the few shows that contains Two Step?!?!!? Won't it be great?!?!?!?!? I hate to say it, but as great a song as it is, I didn't need to hear it every other show, for two years. They can leave it in their bag of songs for a while. Let the flaming begin.... (I just hope I don't find flaming bags of dog s*** on my porch.)

JiMiThAnG12369
06-27-2004, 04:30 AM
I just want some #41

phunky420
06-27-2004, 06:56 AM
(grins) What about Blue Water, Spotlight, or Get In Line? (/grins)

Seriously, I'm sure they will play it within the next two or three shows, although I'm almost sick of hearing 10 minute Two Steps, and 7 minute Everyday album tunes. Don't get me wrong, I'm one of the few people who doesn't completely denounce the whole album, but they are 4 minutes at best. I DO LIKE THE EVERYDAY ALBUM. I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU "PURISTS" SAY. I've been listening to them since 93, AND THE EVERYDAY ALBUM IS OKAY... I'm glad they haven't played Two Step, just a little bit. Has anyone else noticed that the 12/19/98 Chicago CD is the only live album NOT to have Two Step somewhere??? Won't it be great if they release another live album from this tour, and it's one of the few shows that contains Two Step?!?!!? Won't it be great?!?!?!?!? I hate to say it, but as great a song as it is, I didn't need to hear it every other show, for two years. They can leave it in their bag of songs for a while. Let the flaming begin.... (I just hope I don't find flaming bags of dog s*** on my porch.)

Ugg another fan of Everyday...

Poo on you!!!

Here is your flaming bag of dog shiete!!! :monkey :monkey :monkey

BTW...Yes it is nice when they don't play Two Step.

However, good luck on your prediction of them playing those rare songs. They have not played them in 10 years...why would they start now?

dmb21
06-27-2004, 10:07 AM
I'm hoping to hear Proudest Monkey and maybe Minarets, but I doubt it. The band doesn't seem like the band from back in 2000 that would completely mix it up everynight and play rare songs like LBV, #40, Maker and I'll Back You Up. I think we would have a better chance to hear rare songs if the encore was one song of Dave solo and one song of the band. As for Two Step and Watchtower, i wouldn't mind hearing them. What I am sick of hearing everytime is Jimi Thing and especially Rhyme and Reason.

AJDMB05
06-27-2004, 10:24 AM
You know, you guys can say all you want about "give them time! it's a new tour! they haven't played together since Central Park!" but it's been 7 shows, I think we gave them enough time. They were ripping into last year's tour by show 1. Two Step debuted at show 4 last year. I'm very very worried by the fact that they're giving stuff like Two Step and Bartender a break, but overplaying the shit out of:

- Too Much
- If I Had It All
- Rhyme and Reason
- Crush (god, WHY?)
- When The World Ends
- Where Are You Going (so much for the break after 2 years of constant play)
- What Would You Say

And so on. LIOG's been put on hiatus with the full band, being played only twice last year and nearly a dozen in '02. Minarets was showign promise along with Dreaming Tree and Last Stop until those stopped getting played in the late tour. Monkey seems to still be out. Watchtower's still got a show or two to go.

dmb21
06-27-2004, 10:55 AM
I agree with you totally, I thought I was the only one who felt that way. I've been looking at the setlists from this tour, and besides the new songs, I don't see anything too thrilling. I get really surprised when I hear people in the concert reviews say that it's one of the best shows they've ever seen. I just don't think they care anymore. The way Dave acted on the D&F tour was 100% better when compared to the last two DMB tours I've seen. He seemed much more happier, and so did Trey and the rest of the "Friends" band.

CornellDMBfan
06-27-2004, 11:42 AM
two step and watchtower can go on the shelf till '07 and i won't make a peep
I'd be way bummed if that happened . . . I'm beginning to think that people go to lots of shows for the wrong reasons - such as to "collect" songs, so to speak. and for those that don't go to lots of shows, but complain about an overplayed song - where do you get off? it's not like you're hearing WTWE 30 times a year, you're just seeing it posted on a website. it seems to me you only have a right to complain about an overplayed song if you actually see it show after show after show - and if that's the case, be thankful that you can afford to go to that many shows and shut up! (no, I'm not really that angry - just jealous). I think it's also really important to drill home the fact that the caliber of a show is made by the energy, not the setlist. that said . . . I really hope they play LIOG, Bartender, etc. at SPAC :D

AJDMB05
06-27-2004, 12:22 PM
I think it's also really important to drill home the fact that the caliber of a show is made by the energy, not the setlist. that said . . . I really hope they play LIOG, Bartender, etc. at SPAC :D
I'm tired of that philosophy too. Sure, if there's high energy at one show and they played, say... your average 2002 show (pretty stagnant setlist, very Everyday/Busted Stuff heavy), and then played, say, Big League Chew, flubbing parts left and right and not being into it, yeah, I'd take the average 2002 show. But you can't tell me that if there's no largely discernable difference in how the songs were played, that you wouldn't go for the setlist with the better and dare I say it, rarer, songs. And maybe a setlist with some sort of flow to it?

"Energy" is one of these intangible elements of a show that everyone parades around lately. I love an energetic show as much as anyone else, but I don't care if they're creating cold fusion up there, you can only put so much energy and emotion into Where Are You Going and keep it from going stale for so long. And I don't even want to hear that the people at the show are the only ones who matter when judging a show. Tapes capture a lot these days, with better equipment. If we're listening to the same show, but I wasn't there, I have nearly the same amount of information on how to properly rate a show or give an opinion.

This new "Setlists don't matter much" attitude seems to be something one person said and everyone blindly agreed with. Hell, we're on this site with one of the most complete setlist archives this band has, someone must care.

Stewie
06-27-2004, 12:26 PM
bowa is back if you haven't noticed. and that bears two step, at least for me. we were complaining about that for awhile. anyway it is early in the tour, so two step definitely has a good chance of coming back.

johnbro23
06-27-2004, 12:35 PM
You've got to agree that 99% of DMB fans want to hear Two Step. You guys that say it's over played are in the 1% that have seen over 30 shows. At Starlake last night, the only chant we heard for a song was for Two Step. People want to hear that song. I do to. I was chanting along with them. Hopefully they play it tonight!

Stewie
06-27-2004, 12:39 PM
i haven't been to anywhere near 30 shows. two step is great but i just hate how long it is. and you can't say that i don't appreciate jamming. what dmb does with two step isn't jamming, it is just as structured as the actual song. they play the song then fade into that little boring groove for a long time and then do that loud energizing beat with carter. i mean it's good, but i'd rather a lot of other dmb songs.

mantra4
06-27-2004, 04:34 PM
2 step needs a break... but if they do bust it out it is fine with me. the only thing about songs taking a hiatus (ala liog, last stop, or whatever) is that if you don't bring songs back into rotation at the same time you are severely cutting down on the number of songs that are being played. if bowa stays around all tour then that is a fine substitution for me.

mantra4
06-27-2004, 04:48 PM
also... i would gladly give up songs like bartender, watchtower, ddtw if it meant that dave could actually sing for the whole tour. his voice sounds great right now. i can't tell you how much i love listening to pnp from this tour because dave fucking nails that high note that he hasn't hit in a year or so.

BustedJeff
06-27-2004, 04:50 PM
How come before this tour, it was ok to desire songs that you wanted to hear and talk about them here and now for this tour, you can't really say anything that doesn't sound like rabid appreciation without people telling you not to complain/bitch? When did everyone decide to just accept everything that's being played without a second thought?

I also tend to exaggerate, but you get the point.

I realize they're doing some cool stuff this year, but dammit, song of the other songs need some play time. If the entire tour passes and the 4 new songs are played EVERY night, I think that's kind of weak. If, say, 2 of the new songs were played each night and the 2 open song slots were replaced with debuting songs for the tour, that would be just fine. They simply need some more songs to make this tour complete.

onid_41
06-27-2004, 05:02 PM
i wouldn't mind not hearing two step for a while but they need to be busting out #41 pretty damn soon

mantra4
06-27-2004, 05:03 PM
How come before this tour, it was ok to desire songs that you wanted to hear and talk about them here and now for this tour, you can't really say anything that doesn't sound like rabid appreciation without people telling you not to complain/bitch? When did everyone decide to just accept everything that's being played without a second thought?:thumbsup

mantra4
06-27-2004, 05:06 PM
i wouldn't mind not hearing two step for a while but they need to be busting out #41 pretty damn soon41 needs a break too

GLR87
06-27-2004, 05:09 PM
maybe I wouldnt like two step if I went to 20 shows and heard its 17 times, but I never heard it live once so I want it, and 41 and watchtower.

mantra4
06-27-2004, 05:12 PM
no one here said they didn't like 2 step... some people said they think it drags and whatnot. i won't ever not like 2 step... i may get tired of it, but that doesn't mean i don't like it

UNC41
06-27-2004, 05:50 PM
41 needs a break too

I will never agree witht that statement. Ever.

mantra4
06-27-2004, 06:01 PM
more power to ya

barefoot
06-27-2004, 06:48 PM
I hadnt noticed....

Cronko1587
06-27-2004, 07:04 PM
see, maybe they're giving some of the songs a break so that they can come back and play them nice and fresh and give them a much needed reworking. i mean, #41 from what i heard of some of the recordings last year weren't that stellar, and i think it could use a new jam or something to beef it up...something like what they've done with jimi thing and grace is gone. i could handle a #41 hiatus if it came back sweet in a reworked and more exciting form like jimi thing has...but i will start to get upset if songs like pig, YNK, last stop, and so right don't start showing up....i don't think anyone would say that they would rather hear help myself, where are you going, rhyme, and too much

Obsessor Of 41
06-27-2004, 08:26 PM
More of: Minarets, Cry Freedom, You Never Know, Thing.

Less of: Rhyme and Reason, Rhyme and Reason, Rhyme and Reason. For Christ's sake...

AJDMB05
06-27-2004, 08:46 PM
i could handle a #41 hiatus
Bite your tongue. Bite it.

coolhotwaves
06-27-2004, 11:32 PM
It's BACK!

Martial14
06-27-2004, 11:34 PM
It's BACK!


:thumbsup :)

dmbncsu
06-27-2004, 11:36 PM
Now its time for watchtower, 41, and many others...

phunky420
06-28-2004, 01:36 AM
Ohh no it was gone for such a long time.....

Give me a break. Lets pray for really rare songs.....

BustedJeff
06-28-2004, 01:37 AM
Ohh no it was gone for such a long time.....

Give me a break. Lets pray for really rare songs.....

Yeah, I'm a bit confused as to why so many people were tapping their feet waiting for Two Step.

I'm more anxious to see Say Goodbye, Minarets and Lie in our Graves show up.

DMBMike36
06-28-2004, 01:38 AM
two step was around 19-20 mins. Pretty good version, not the best, but good

ethaxton
06-28-2004, 02:16 AM
Glad to see it finally, i wasn't worried too much though.

joeyfine
06-28-2004, 03:14 AM
butch taylor was smashing tongiht :)

8nalive
06-28-2004, 03:57 AM
My opinion.
a perfect choice to play two step here in western PA for the first time this tour. i should have put money on it. two step is the only chant we know.
the date - 7.03.00.
at three rivers stadium, two step becomes the basis for a new local religion as the rain pours down. compare the songs that were shared in these two setlists, yeah. and opened with the same first two and ended with the same last one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Three Rivers Stadium, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 7.03.00

DMB Setlist
onstage 8:52 PM
What Would You Say *
The Song That Jane Likes *
Rhyme & Reason *
Crash Into Me (Dixie Chicken) *
Too Much *
Grey Street *
Say Goodbye *
#41 *
#36 +*
Long Black Veil +*
All Along the Watchtower *
Satellite *
Drive In, Drive Out *
Busted Stuff +*
Stay +*
encore
Grace Is Gone *
Two Step *
offstage 11:28 PM
* with Butch Taylor on keys
+ with Brenda, Cindy & Tawatha on vocals

doug_gill
06-28-2004, 04:15 AM
...songs like pig, YNK, last stop, and so right don't start showing up....i don't think anyone would say that they would rather hear help myself, where are you going, rhyme, and too much

Seeing as I haven't heard Help Myself since 96 and have heard the rest of those "rare" songs since then, in some cases several times, I'd rather see Help Myself.

8nalive
06-28-2004, 07:06 AM
*correction, both shows did not end with the same song. they ended like this, with Stay and Two Step swapping positions.

July 3, 2000.
Stay +*
encore
Grace Is Gone *
Two Step *
offstage 11:28 PM
* with Butch Taylor on keys
+ with Brenda, Cindy & Tawatha on vocals

June 27, 2004.
Two Step
encore
Dancing Nancies
Stay

phunky420
06-28-2004, 09:28 AM
Dancing and stay is a nice encore...it should be the other way around though....

I would rather end the night with a nancy ;)

AJDMB05
06-28-2004, 09:47 AM
I think everyone was getting really nervous about the setlists for the rest of the tour, because night 1 shows have been very similiar and night 2 songs clean up what they didn't play on night 2 with maybe a debut!

Have you guys even noticed they've played 38 different songs so far after like 7-8 shows? Dayna and I were looking around at last year's tour and they had over 50 different songs by this point. I'm still a little nervous that you'll be able to hear every song played this tour by downloading one show from June and one from say, August.

phunky420
06-28-2004, 09:50 AM
I think DMB is just rusty. Maybe they are nervous to break out those old favorites because they don't want to F them up?

I hope they start breaking out some classics...or i'm nervous for my august shows ;(

joeyfine
06-28-2004, 11:51 AM
honestly after seeing them in germain, last night, and in blossom on tuesday. im prefectly happy if they play the same songs. if that energy comes with it... i dont need anything else!

mxz440fan
06-28-2004, 02:31 PM
I think everyone was getting really nervous about the setlists for the rest of the tour, because night 1 shows have been very similiar and night 2 songs clean up what they didn't play on night 2 with maybe a debut!

Have you guys even noticed they've played 38 different songs so far after like 7-8 shows? Dayna and I were looking around at last year's tour and they had over 50 different songs by this point. I'm still a little nervous that you'll be able to hear every song played this tour by downloading one show from June and one from say, August.you didn't look at the d&f sets, did you?

there was all of...what, 20 songs total?

skoal19
06-28-2004, 04:19 PM
Dave and the band busted out Two Step in Pittsburgh and let me tell you all that it was the sweetest thing i have ever seen...Butch Taylor was amazing on the piano!! So Two Step has come out beware!!!!!

AJDMB05
06-28-2004, 05:15 PM
you didn't look at the d&f sets, did you?

there was all of...what, 20 songs total?
*sigh*

Ok, well, barring the fact that it's a different band with a different catalog and different instruments, that still further proves my point. This was a band that had performed live once before on SNL, and after 8 shows (same amount) they had played 47 different songs to DMB's 38. If you take away every Dave and Tim song, it's still 32. Just under the mark of a band with over 100 originals, even more covers, and 13 years of experience.

I'm not like, pissed or anything. I'm going to 2 shows in a week, and I'm looking to make the best of them. It's just disappointing.

mxz440fan
06-28-2004, 06:21 PM
*sigh*

Ok, well, barring the fact that it's a different band with a different catalog and different instruments, that still further proves my point. This was a band that had performed live once before on SNL, and after 8 shows (same amount) they had played 47 different songs to DMB's 38. If you take away every Dave and Tim song, it's still 32. Just under the mark of a band with over 100 originals, even more covers, and 13 years of experience.

I'm not like, pissed or anything. I'm going to 2 shows in a week, and I'm looking to make the best of them. It's just disappointing.i realized (and realize) all those points, but my point was...there wasn't a very large variety...but did you still have a good time?

i sure as hell did :D

AJDMB05
06-28-2004, 06:26 PM
i realized (and realize) all those points, but my point was...there wasn't a very large variety...but did you still have a good time?

i sure as hell did :D
Point well taken. :D

mxz440fan
06-28-2004, 09:10 PM
Point well taken. :D:D:):Dwith that being said...i'm psyched for my first (of four) shows on friday. i can't remember being this happy since i learned how to wipe my own ass.

binderhead
07-01-2004, 04:06 PM
I'd rather see energy too, but people complaining about sets or song droughts is crazy... At least they played it. I would like to hear #41 at The Gorge, since I have to drive 3000 miles. As for the rare songs, we probably will never hear them again until a farewell tour or something. I wish they'd play Spoon too. The important thing is just chill out, enjoy the show, and be very grateful that you even get to hear one of the greatest bands ever. Where would the world be sans-Dave ???