Minnesota Twins

[Ccronks]

Because Joe Mauer bunted, I took out my frustrations on her anus.
Gawd, I went to that game Tuesday night, and the crowd was just in shock. First time I've been to a game they lost in over a year and a half. And to the fucking Indians.

[42graystreet]

Gawd, I went to that game Tuesday night, and the crowd was just in shock. First time I've been to a game they lost in over a year and a half. And to the fucking Indians.

Wow. You either haven't gone to many games, or been extremely lucky to always go to games they win.

[bigeyefish22]

My Dad is coming to the Twin Cities Aug. 13-15 while the Twins host Oakland. I'd love to get tickets (for any of the games) so if anybody has 2 to sell please let me know!

[Ccronks]

Wow. You either haven't gone to many games, or been extremely lucky to always go to games they win.

Extreme luck. Notable games include the entire White Sox series sweep at the end of 08, the comeback against the Mariners in the 2nd game of the season in 09, game 163 last year...

And about a dozen other games scattered throughout.

[42graystreet]

Extreme luck. Notable games include the entire White Sox series sweep at the end of 08, the comeback against the Mariners in the 2nd game of the season in 09, game 163 last year...

And about a dozen other games scattered throughout.

Nice. I was at all those games you mentioned except 163 :BANG

[Nick@Night]

Extreme luck. Notable games include the entire White Sox series sweep at the end of 08, the comeback against the Mariners in the 2nd game of the season in 09, game 163 last year...

And about a dozen other games scattered throughout.
With your string of luck and a height that rivals our closer, maybe you should start a game on the mound and see what happens.

[UNLTrpt]

and, I know, untltrplrtp, I was just using your quote to get my point across; nothing personal and I wasnt disagreeing with you :)

wut?

its all good man.

[uro55]

Nice. I was at all those games you mentioned except 163 :BANG

Game 163 was one of the best most exciting nights of my 31 years on this planet:thumbsup

[Benny003]

Game 163 was one of the best most exciting nights of my 31 years on this planet:thumbsup

Agreed except for the age part. I never really yell and scream at games, but my throat was sore for about 3 days after that game from all the yelling I did.

[grace2]

Game 163 was epic

[uro55]

Agreed except for the age part. I never really yell and scream at games, but my throat was sore for about 3 days after that game from all the yelling I did.

Same here:)

The end of the game, and the ensuing celebration reminded me of the end of the first Major League:thumbsup

[bigeyefish22]

I just felt a twitch, when Delwin hit that 3-run double. Delwin made it move! 2 out, comes through!

[42graystreet]

Carl Pavano, I love you. I'm seriously considering shaving my beard and leaving a 'stache.

[UNC41]

Pavano is saving the staff right now. Hopefully someone will join Frank in following his lead.

[UNLTrpt]

I was in Nebraska and Game 163 was one of the best moments of my life.

Good win by Pavano tonight.

[bigeyefish22]

Am I the only one who didn't enjoy game 163 as much as the rest of you? I was very tense and just felt like there were so many mistakes that it was kinda bad baseball. I think it had something to do with the game being SO HUGE even though a win only meant we started over in the playoffs the next day. I don't know, I just don't remember most of the game fondly (save for the end, which mostly trumps). The final play, I was giddy as fuck. But otherwise I was mostly covering my eyes.

[UNC41]

I can't speak to watching Game 163 from home, but if you were at the game it was amazing. The atmosphere was absolutely electric.

[Benny003]

I can't speak to watching Game 163 from home, but if you were at the game it was amazing. The atmosphere was absolutely electric.

Ditto. Everyone was standing from at least the 7th inning on. Bad baseball or not, it was just intense as hell.

[42graystreet]

Yes, no doubt it was bad baseball for much of the game. But that didn't matter, the drama, intensity, pressure and stress was as intense for a sporting event as I've ever felt. And then to get the satisfaction of winning at the end made it indescribably awesome. I don't think we'll experience that again unless we make it to the World Series.

[uro55]

Yes, no doubt it was bad baseball for much of the game. But that didn't matter, the drama, intensity, pressure and stress was as intense for a sporting event as I've ever felt. And then to get the satisfaction of winning at the end made it indescribably awesome. I don't think we'll experience that again unless we make it to the World Series.

Very well put sir!

Also for this moment in time Carl Pavano's mustache might be the most powerful force in the sports world, ney, the universe! It sucks in hitters like a black hole:lol:lol

[grace2]

Yes, no doubt it was bad baseball for much of the game. But that didn't matter, the drama, intensity, pressure and stress was as intense for a sporting event as I've ever felt. And then to get the satisfaction of winning at the end made it indescribably awesome. I don't think we'll experience that again unless we make it to the World Series.
I agree there were a lot of mistakes, but it's just how frickin' intense it was.

[UNLTrpt]

come on guys, Duensing is getting the job done. Lets put some runs on the board

[bigeyefish22]

Very well put sir!

Also for this moment in time Carl Pavano's mustache might be the most powerful force in the sports world, ney, the universe! It sucks in hitters like a black hole:lol:lol

Not often I actually physically, audibly laugh at a message board but that got a nice chuckle.

[Benny003]

Pictures from the July 15th game against the White Sox:

http://www.benckphotography.com/Twins/Chicago%20White%20Sox%2020100715/

[Tjmblitz]

Delmon is the man.

[AJF_41]

Pictures from the July 15th game against the White Sox:

http://www.benckphotography.com/Twins/Chicago%20White%20Sox%2020100715/

nice shots. i liked that you started and finished with same frame (almost).


2 back...tigers aren't playing well. time to make a push to the top.

[phlaming lips]

Delmon is the man.

this:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

who would've predicted opening day that he and Pavano would be our MVP's in the heart of the season?

Does he have a nickname from Dick and Bert or Gordon and Gladden?

I'm only following the games through boxscores out here.

[uro55]

Grand slam Kubs!!!!!

[handsareme]

Ahhh....

[Benny003]

New rule: Blackburn doesn't come in unless we have at least a 7 run lead.

[handsareme]

New rule: Blackburn doesn't come in unless we have at least a 7 run lead.
How about he doesn't come in period?

[Benny003]

How about he doesn't come in period?

Fine by me. Anyone else find it interesting we get 19 hits in a game where Mauer and Morneau are out of the lineup, plus Young (our hottest hitter) goes 1 for 6?

[handsareme]

I'll be at the game tomorrow in KC. Can't beat $5 seats. Planning on taking my camera unless the morning forecast tells me it's a bad idea. Keep it going Liriano!

[Benny003]

So Hudson is on the 15-Day DL and they bring Jose Morales up? Why do we need 3 catchers? Is Mauer going to DH or something?

[Nick@Night]

So Hudson is on the 15-Day DL and they bring Jose Morales up? Why do we need 3 catchers? Is Mauer going to DH or something?
It would appear that way.

[Xmasjjm]

So Hudson is on the 15-Day DL and they bring Jose Morales up? Why do we need 3 catchers? Is Mauer going to DH or something?

Morales can play first...

A backup for Cuddy at 1B, a decent bat off the bench, and protection for Mauer when is the DH. Smart move actually...

[dontburnthe_pig]

and valencia hits a granny, wow. 6-0 in the top of the 1st against greinke. wow.

[UNLTrpt]

THAT is how you jump on a team early. :thumbsup great job Twins

[UNLTrpt]

Well played Mauer!

[dmb_41_sd]

wow, 17 hits, 17 runs for the twins vs 3 hits on 0 runs for the royals....so far. Will the next Zack Greinke please stand up?

In other news, See what former twin Matt Garza did today? First ever no-no for the Rays.

[Nick@Night]

This game reminds me of the one last year in Chicago where they piss pounded the Sox in the same fashion.

[Benny003]

Fun day for baseball. Twins are blowing out the Royals and the Tigers get no-hit!

[UNC41]

The route is great an all, but more important is hopefully Mauer getting on a roll after his monster game and the seventh straight game where the starter has given up three or fewer runs. Love seeing that.

[PilotC150]

Leave it to Young to screw up the shutout.

Well...Slama didn't help.

[UNLTrpt]

Leave it to Young to screw up the shutout.

Well...Slama didn't help.

Pft. to hell with the shutout. I'm glad the bats are starting to come around. Its good to see them capitalizing with men on base.

[42graystreet]

Mauer Power!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Nick@Night]

Tonight's score: Royals 3, Twins 1.

[AJF_41]

Garza throws a no no.

[uro55]

Garza throws a no no.

I can't lie I really enojyed seeing him get that.

Great baseball night last night!

[dontburnthe_pig]

Fun day for baseball. Twins are blowing out the Royals and the Tigers get no-hit!

The route is great an all, but more important is hopefully Mauer getting on a roll after his monster game and the seventh straight game where the starter has given up three or fewer runs. Love seeing that.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

mauer is on a fucking roll

[handsareme]

Such a fantastic game to be at last night. The crowd booed (believe both Twins and Royals fans) when Gardy took Mauer out. I know I was hoping for a cycle. The 19 runs should not overshadow Liriano's awesome performance. Great game. Got some pics, they'll be up in the next day or two.

[Benny003]

Such a fantastic game to be at last night. The crowd booed (believe both Twins and Royals fans) when Gardy took Mauer out. I know I was hoping for a cycle. The 19 runs should not overshadow Liriano's awesome performance. Great game. Got some pics, they'll be up in the next day or two.

Mauer took himself out. Gardy asked him if he wanted to go up again, but Mauer decided not to. Probably not worth taking a chance at injury with an 18 run lead.

[handsareme]

Mauer took himself out. Gardy asked him if he wanted to go up again, but Mauer decided not to. Probably not worth taking a chance at injury with an 18 run lead.
I just read that. They don't tell you those things in the stadium.

[handsareme]

Here are my pictures (http://picasaweb.google.com/handsareme/191TwinsVsRoyals72610?feat=directlink) of last nights game.

If anybody wants the full file of the Twins logo on the scoreboard for a background or anything, post your email address and I'll get it taken care of.

[Benny003]

That is a cool stadium. I didn't realize their video screen looked like that. That's pretty awesome. I'm trying to convince the wife to let us drive down there next summer for a game or two.

[handsareme]

That is a cool stadium. I didn't realize their video screen looked like that. That's pretty awesome. I'm trying to convince the wife to let us drive down there next summer for a game or two.
It's my first time there since they've remodeled. Sad thing is they don't serve Boulevard in the upper deck so if you're sitting up there, you have to make an inning's trek to get something that's not Miller or Bud.

You'll be alongside many Twins fans if you go. Sit on the third base line.

[dontburnthe_pig]

It's my first time there since they've remodeled. Sad thing is they don't serve Boulevard in the upper deck so if you're sitting up there, you have to make an inning's trek to get something that's not Miller or Bud.

You'll be alongside many Twins fans if you go. Sit on the third base line.

it's a nice ballpark. i went to a twins v royals game last august. there seemed to be more twins fans than royals fans.

[handsareme]

They're doing it again. Not as wide open as last night.

[42graystreet]

When I was going to school at Nebraska I would make the drive to KC for Royals/Twins games. Always a great time. Always lots of Twins fans there. And Kaufman Stadium is a sweet ballpark, one of my favorites.

[UNLTrpt]

I really wish I would have drove down for one or two games this series. Would have been nice to get out and see a game down there.

[handsareme]

I've got a friend who posted the recap to Monday's game on Facebook with this "description": Jesus. I guess a 19-1 victory over the Royals is what you get when your team is paid for with tax dollars. Why haven't other baseball teams figured this out yet?

And another entry of his is: I mean, I talk a lot of shit on the Yankees, Angels, and Red Sox for having monstrously large payrolls, but at least that money is just coming out of the pockets of rich guys. This is the people's money at work.

And another: All I'm saying is, if any fan of the Twins is against big government, he or she is a moron.

And finally: 7% of Minnesota's workforce is unemployed, and about $250 million of their money went to paying for this team.


...so how does one tactfully respond to that?

[AJF_41]

I really wish I would have drove down for one or two games this series. Would have been nice to get out and see a game down there.

with all 2,000 people that were in the seats...stadium looked empty.

[AJF_41]

I've got a friend who posted the recap to Monday's game on Facebook with this "description": Jesus. I guess a 19-1 victory over the Royals is what you get when your team is paid for with tax dollars. Why haven't other baseball teams figured this out yet?

And another entry of his is: I mean, I talk a lot of shit on the Yankees, Angels, and Red Sox for having monstrously large payrolls, but at least that money is just coming out of the pockets of rich guys. This is the people's money at work.

And another: All I'm saying is, if any fan of the Twins is against big government, he or she is a moron.

And finally: 7% of Minnesota's workforce is unemployed, and about $250 million of their money went to paying for this team.


...so how does one tactfully respond to that?

How does funding a stadium have anything to do with them stomping KC?

[Nick@Night]

How does funding a stadium have anything to do with them stomping KC?
This. 678

[UNLTrpt]

yeah. that kinda came out of left field.

[handsareme]

yeah. that kinda came out of left field.
I didn't post it. Guy's full of hot air anyway. Plus he's an A's fan. Whatever that means.

[grace2]

Need a sweep

[uro55]

I'm hearing some Ted Lilly rumblings. If he came cheap I'd love him, if they want Ramos? No fucking way :lol

[Nick@Night]

I'm hearing some Ted Lilly rumblings. If he came cheap I'd love him, if they want Ramos? No fucking way :lol
His name doesn't even sound imposing.

[uro55]

His name doesn't even sound imposing.

No but he's a good #3 guy, and is pitching better than anyone not named Pavano or Fransico right now!

[monkeyman420]

Lilly will get lit up in the AL.

[Nick@Night]

DY is a run producing machine. There's no way he doesn't get POM for July.

[uro55]

Lilly will get lit up in the AL.

He was solid for a couple of years with Oakland and Toronto.

[uro55]

DY is a run producing machine. There's no way he doesn't get POM for July.

Depending on how the next two months play out, he's gonna get some MVP votes!

[dontburnthe_pig]

DY is a run producing machine. There's no way he doesn't get POM for July.

word. he's been haulin' lately.

[uro55]

Go Twins :hump

[davelk10]

We got a closer now

Capps from Nat's and cash for Ramos and someone named Joe Testa

Capps, 26, on last year of deal and arbitration-eligible next year

47 appearances, 46 IP, 3-3, 2.74 ERA, 26/30 saves, 38 SO, 9 BB

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100729&content_id=12795516&vkey=tradedeadline2010&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

I like the move

[bigeyefish22]

I'm game for this move, I'll trust the powers... I wouldn't have expected it but who the hell am I?

I think Lilly would be a very nice addition to the Twins, for the right (low) price.

[Nick@Night]

Was this a kind of move the front office was trying to make this whole time or did this spring up overnight?

[uro55]

We got a closer now

Capps from Nat's and cash for Ramos and someone named Joe Testa

Capps, 26, on last year of deal and arbitration-eligible next year

47 appearances, 46 IP, 3-3, 2.74 ERA, 26/30 saves, 38 SO, 9 BB

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100729&content_id=12795516&vkey=tradedeadline2010&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

I like the move

Crap trade, I'm not liking it at all.

P.S. I LIKE getting caps, but for Ramos? Fuck that!

[bigeyefish22]

Crap trade, I'm not liking it at all.

P.S. I LIKE getting caps, but for Ramos? Fuck that!

Slow down, there, cowboy. This your first rodeo?

[uro55]

Slow down, there, cowboy. This your first rodeo?

Far from it. But come on, giving up our biggest most important trading chip for a possition we're not in dire need of. And for a pitcher who has had one very good year, and two ok years all for shit teams? While I trust what this team does, it doesn't make sense to me.

Ramos is far more valuable then Matt Capps:thumbsdow

P.S. I'm more than willing to eat my words if this works out great lol.

P.P.S. I do again very much like picking up Capps, just not at Ramos's loss.

[bigeyefish22]

Far from it. But come on, giving up our biggest most important trading chip for a possition we're not in dire need of. And for a pitcher who has had one very good year, and two ok years all for shit teams? While I trust what this team does, it doesn't make sense to me.

Ramos is far more valuable then Matt Capps:thumbsdow

P.S. I'm more than willing to eat my words if this works out great lol.

P.P.S. I do again very much like picking up Capps, just not at Ramos's loss.

:) I just think it's generally folly to assess a trade immediately. Gotta give it some time, let it air out a little. Probably valid to question what we gave up. We're not in the room though, don't know what other teams thought of Ramos.

I still want a starter, regardless.

[Benny003]

Yes, we still need a starter. I wonder if getting Capps is meant almost as a backup plan for next year if Nathan doesn't quite have his mojo back yet by then. Just look at how long it took Liriano to come back fully from Tommy John surgery. Sure Nathan will be able to pitch by next year, but will he have his "stuff"?

[uro55]

:) I just think it's generally folly to assess a trade immediately. Gotta give it some time, let it air out a little. Probably valid to question what we gave up. We're not in the room though, don't know what other teams thought of Ramos.

I still want a starter, regardless.

Oh you're totally right, that's why I said I was more than willing to eat my words:lol

Just first impressions aren't great imo!

[Nick@Night]

This is an average closer (more or less Rauch with "All-Star" on his resume) who is going to earn 7-8 million through arbitration due to his accomplishments after next year. I'm curious to what they are planning on long term with this kid, plus if his success is going to translate to the AL.

[crashintome202]

capps just needed to get out of pittsburgh. hes not an elite closer but hes good enough for a playoff team. the idea of a closer is overrated imo

[Benny003]

capps just needed to get out of Washington. hes not an elite closer but hes good enough for a playoff team. the idea of a closer is overrated imo

Fixed and this guy below would disagree with your opinion of closers:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/multimedia/photo_gallery/0910/mlb.playoff.game.changers/images/mariano-rivera.jpg

[grace2]

What about Joe Nathan? He's not dead, he's hurt. He'll be back next year. I don't understand the move

[bigeyefish22]

capps just needed to get out of pittsburgh. hes not an elite closer but hes good enough for a playoff team. the idea of a closer is overrated imo

Fixed and this guy below would disagree with your opinion of closers:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/multimedia/photo_gallery/0910/mlb.playoff.game.changers/images/mariano-rivera.jpg

He was in Pittsburgh before Washington, and he didn't do very well there (last year). :)

What about Joe Nathan? He's not dead, he's hurt. He'll be back next year. I don't understand the move

I don't feel comfortable that Joe will be back next year. Think about what happened to the last 2 Twins to get Tommy John (Frank and Neshek). And Joe ain't no spring chicken, either. I would be more surprised to have him back next year (not to mention any levels of effectiveness) than not to have him at all.

[FunkyTeaParty]

I don't get this move either. Is he an upgrade over Rauch? Does he even have a neck tattoo?

And maybe it was a change of scenery thing, but I had the misfortunate of watching Capps pitch for Pittsburgh last year and he was tremendously bad. Doesn't seem like the kind of guy you trade any kind of prospect for.

[grace2]

Yeah, plus Rauch is doing just fine. We'll see, maybe this will work out.

[Nick@Night]

His first save opportunity will be highly scrutinized.

[Benny003]

Capps did pretty good last night. Everyone gave him a nice standing ovation when he came out of the bullpen. I took some pictures at the game. I'll try to post them sooner than later. I sat up in the Legends Club for the first time. I had been up there for the Target Field Open House back in March, but it was nice to see it all set up for games. They have a nice case up there full of things from Opening Day like one of the bases, all of the mile stone baseballs, lineup cards, etc. Pretty neat to see. Plus tons of pictures on the walls from different milestone moments for the ballpark. Depending on what's available, I might try to get season tickets up there next season. I have a mental list of where I would like my season tickets to be next year, so it just depends on what's available. I know my wife really liked it. We were kind of spoiled though. We were sitting in the front row of section D, which is the first secton between home plate and first base. So they were pretty sweet seats.

Anyway, if you get a chance to sit in the Legends Club, it's definitely worth doing at least once.

[UNLTrpt]

Thought I'd weight in on the Capps trade.

While the Twins have done pretty well in trades like this and i'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt but...i don't quite get it.

Was Rauch not getting the job done? Cause it seemed to me that he was doing good enough to be our everyday closer and filling in better than anybody could have expected for Nathan.

And what does this mean for Nathan? Is Capps the future closer? Is Nathan "done"? Do we let him go after this year? In that case why did we give up Ramos for a 2nd half closer?

I hope it turns out...

[Benny003]

Thought I'd weight in on the Capps trade.

While the Twins have done pretty well in trades like this and i'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt but...i don't quite get it.

Was Rauch not getting the job done? Cause it seemed to me that he was doing good enough to be our everyday closer and filling in better than anybody could have expected for Nathan.

And what does this mean for Nathan? Is Capps the future closer? Is Nathan "done"? Do we let him go after this year? In that case why did we give up Ramos for a 2nd half closer?

I hope it turns out...

I think the idea is that Capps will be useful next year. I bet the thinking is that Nathan won't be 100% next year, so we'll need an everyday closer while Nathan works on getting his mojo back. So Capps is to fill in for next season as well to give Nathan less stress in forcing a come back. Rauch was struggling lately, but I didn't think he was going horrible. Who knows.

[grace2]

Thought I'd weight in on the Capps trade.

While the Twins have done pretty well in trades like this and i'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt but...i don't quite get it.

Was Rauch not getting the job done? Cause it seemed to me that he was doing good enough to be our everyday closer and filling in better than anybody could have expected for Nathan.

And what does this mean for Nathan? Is Capps the future closer? Is Nathan "done"? Do we let him go after this year? In that case why did we give up Ramos for a 2nd half closer?

I hope it turns out...
I'm 100% with you

[dontburnthe_pig]

Thought I'd weight in on the Capps trade.

While the Twins have done pretty well in trades like this and i'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt but...i don't quite get it.

Was Rauch not getting the job done? Cause it seemed to me that he was doing good enough to be our everyday closer and filling in better than anybody could have expected for Nathan.

And what does this mean for Nathan? Is Capps the future closer? Is Nathan "done"? Do we let him go after this year? In that case why did we give up Ramos for a 2nd half closer?

I hope it turns out...

nathan has to be finished. no sense keeping him and rauch and capps. either someone is going to get traded or nathan will be use sparingly. it doesn't make a whole bunch of sense.

[Xmasjjm]

nathan has to be finished. no sense keeping him and rauch and capps. either someone is going to get traded or nathan will be use sparingly. it doesn't make a whole bunch of sense.

Here are my reasons on why this was a great trade:

The Twins just told their best setup man that he's going to be a setup man. Solid move. Putting Rauch back in a setup role helps shorten the game.

Capps is a legit bullpen arm that can close this year and be insurance for Nathan for next year. Or best case scenario, Nathan is "back" and the Twins could trade Capps or put him in a setup role. Teams always need quality arms in the pen.

Ramos was hard to see go but you have to give something up to get something. Also, when will Ramos' value be any higher? This was the time to trade him.

[AJF_41]

8 straight. not bad.

[Benny003]

Finally stopped procrastinating and edited the pictures from the July 18th game against the White Sox. This is the game that the Twins scored 4 runs in the bottom of the 9th inning to come back and win in walk-off fashion. You'll notice I now actually have a real front page to my website. So hopefully I can make a new post each time I add a new gallery that will help explain what exactly is happening in the pictures. Anyway, take a look and enjoy!

http://benckphotography.com/blog/2010/08/02/twins-vs-white-sox-july-18-2010/

Also, pictures from last Friday's game against the Mariners are below. Not too many pictures, but it's from the front row of the club level and Matt Capps made his Twins debut.

http://benckphotography.com/galleries/twins/Seattle%20Mariners%2020100730/

[dontburnthe_pig]

Here are my reasons on why this was a great trade:

The Twins just told their best setup man that he's going to be a setup man. Solid move. Putting Rauch back in a setup role helps shorten the game.

Capps is a legit bullpen arm that can close this year and be insurance for Nathan for next year. Or best case scenario, Nathan is "back" and the Twins could trade Capps or put him in a setup role. Teams always need quality arms in the pen.

Ramos was hard to see go but you have to give something up to get something. Also, when will Ramos' value be any higher? This was the time to trade him.

when you put it that way.. :thumbsup

8 straight. not bad.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

[UNLTrpt]

Here are my reasons on why this was a great trade:

The Twins just told their best setup man that he's going to be a setup man. Solid move. Putting Rauch back in a setup role helps shorten the game.

Capps is a legit bullpen arm that can close this year and be insurance for Nathan for next year. Or best case scenario, Nathan is "back" and the Twins could trade Capps or put him in a setup role. Teams always need quality arms in the pen.

Ramos was hard to see go but you have to give something up to get something. Also, when will Ramos' value be any higher? This was the time to trade him.

But thats the thing, his value was high. Stark said it in his "Winners & Losers" at the trade deadline.

We always have great faith in the decisions the Twins make. And we understand why they needed Matt Capps. But what other clubs couldn't understand was why Minnesota balked at giving up Wilson Ramos for Cliff Lee -- but then was willing to trade him for a reliever who will help but never be mistaken for Mariano Rivera. "I hate to say this about them, because they're so good at what they do," said one baseball man. "But on this one, they panicked."

We passed up Cliff Lee but took in Capps? This doesn't feel like one of those Nathan/Liriano for AJ type deals. Where we got a whole host of players for one douchebag that we didn't need anymore. If it were one of those I wouldn't feel as weird about it as I do this move.

I dunno. I'm still gonna have faith that we made the right mood because the people making the decisions are a lot smart than me about this stuff. It just is a head scratcher.

[Xmasjjm]

But thats the thing, his value was high. Stark said it in his "Winners & Losers" at the trade deadline.

We always have great faith in the decisions the Twins make. And we understand why they needed Matt Capps. But what other clubs couldn't understand was why Minnesota balked at giving up Wilson Ramos for Cliff Lee -- but then was willing to trade him for a reliever who will help but never be mistaken for Mariano Rivera. "I hate to say this about them, because they're so good at what they do," said one baseball man. "But on this one, they panicked."

We passed up Cliff Lee but took in Capps? This doesn't feel like one of those Nathan/Liriano for AJ type deals. Where we got a whole host of players for one douchebag that we didn't need anymore. If it were one of those I wouldn't feel as weird about it as I do this move.

I dunno. I'm still gonna have faith that we made the right mood because the people making the decisions are a lot smart than me about this stuff. It just is a head scratcher.

I don't buy all that Stark has to say. I've also read that Seattle wasn't too high on Ramos. You have to remember that Lee, as great is would be, was only a rental. He will sign with someone else for top $$$ after the season. Giving up Ramos or any top prospect for nothing proven in return for next year is never smart. With this trade the Twins acquired a legit arm for next year as well.

After Cliff Lee who else could the Twins trade Ramos for...? Oswalt? no thank you. Haren? no way...why not ship him for a closer when the Twins only have one in theory for 2011?

[bigeyefish22]

I don't buy all that Stark has to say. I've also read that Seattle wasn't too high on Ramos. You have to remember that Lee, as great is would be, was only a rental. He will sign with someone else for top $$$ after the season. Giving up Ramos or any top prospect for nothing proven in return for next year is never smart. With this trade the Twins acquired a legit arm for next year as well.

After Cliff Lee who else could the Twins trade Ramos for...? Oswalt? no thank you. Haren? no way...why not ship him for a closer when the Twins only have one in theory for 2011?

Stark makes it sound like Lee was ours if we said yes. I haven't seen any evidence of that (though Stark certainly has more and better sources than I do). And that doesn't take into account what else we would have had to give up to get Lee, who would almost certainly have made 12-15 starts as a Twin and then left for BIG $.

[Benny003]

Stark makes it sound like Lee was ours if we said yes. I haven't seen any evidence of that (though Stark certainly has more and better sources than I do). And that doesn't take into account what else we would have had to give up to get Lee, who would almost certainly have made 12-15 starts as a Twin and then left for BIG $.

I don't think we turned down the Lee deal. I think it was more like the bidding went higher than what we were willing to give up for a half-season rental. I mean the Yankees were bidding on him. Do you want to compete with bidding against the Yankees? Sure we could have got Lee if we really wanted, but is he worth half our top prospects? The deal was never Ramos for Lee straight up. They also wanted at least one other top prospect and probably someone currently on our 27-man roster. That's a lot to give up for 3 months of use at the most.

[bigeyefish22]

The Rays stadium, and their fans, are both among the worst in baseball. Too bad they get such a good team in Tampa. I'd like to see that team in just about any other city.

[PilotC150]

The Rays stadium, and their fans, are both among the worst in baseball. Too bad they get such a good team in Tampa. I'd like to see that team in just about any other city.

Yet somehow there are 7 teams with worse average home attendance than the Rays.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

From what I see on TV, I'd be surprised they say there are over 10,000 at this game.

[bigeyefish22]

Yet somehow there are 7 teams with worse average home attendance than the Rays.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

From what I see on TV, I'd be surprised they say there are over 10,000 at this game.

17-some thousand. Before looking, I'll guess those teams with less attendance are

Pittsburgh
Cleveland
KC
Baltimore
Florida
Washington
Cincinnati

I was close. Forgot the eminently forgettable Oakland. I don't take the blame for that. I thought they were demoted to AAAA anyway.

[pathetic]

17-some thousand. Before looking, I'll guess those teams with less attendance are

Pittsburgh
Cleveland
KC
Baltimore
Florida
Washington
Cincinnati

tampa?
888

[GOB_]

And yet the Rays rank 7th in both local tv and radio ratings. So, the interest is there. They certainly need a better ballpark (with a roof) and it needs to be centrally located.

[bigeyefish22]

And yet the Rays rank 7th in both local tv and radio ratings. So, the interest is there. They certainly need a better ballpark (with a roof) and it needs to be centrally located.

Well, good then. I guess a lot of retired folks are immobile, so...

[Benny003]

Disappointing to lose with Pavano on the mound.

[GOB_]

Well, good then. I guess a lot of retired folks are immobile, so...

That and they don't really have the disposable income to spend on baseball tickets. And the people who do are unable to attend games during the week because of location (such as myself). What hurts the Rays the most is the lack of corporate sponsors. A stadium that is more centrally located to a larger portion of the population will help attract both.

Also, it wasn't too long ago that the Twins were in the bottom half of the league in attendance figures.

[bigeyefish22]

Let us not forget the currently active franchise in Minnesota.

I feel like the Twins can't hit the Rays pitchers. Totally anecdotal but, UGH. I just never get excited to face these guys. Feel like its ugly and we're lucky if we win.

[Benny003]

It feels like we're playing the Yankees. We always can keep it close, but manage to lose. 5 out of 6 games against the Rays this year have been decided by 2 runs or less. Fact: good pitching will win over good hitting a vast majority of the time. Our pitching always seems to bend to their will first and that's what causes us to lose.

[handsareme]

So who recommends what to eat at Target Field?

[phlaming lips]

So who recommends what to eat at Target Field?

I enjoyed the walleye fingers.

The chicken fingers are good portions with fries.

I thought the steak sandwich was disappointing, IMO.

[bigeyefish22]

So who recommends what to eat at Target Field?

I enjoyed the walleye fingers.

The chicken fingers are good portions with fries.

I thought the steak sandwich was disappointing, IMO.

I can't recommend any of that $9 crap. No offense. But get a Kramarczuk brat, they're great! They can be found at the temporary-type vending stations (closer to the stands/field than the built-in concessions).

[UNLTrpt]

So who recommends what to eat at Target Field?

I recommend drinking Grain Belt. Goooooooooooooooooooood stuff

[bigeyefish22]

I recommend drinking Grain Belt. Goooooooooooooooooooood stuff

They DO have good craft beer options at various places throughout the ballpark. I've had Bell's Oberon from a random vendor. :thumbsup

[Benny003]

I enjoyed the walleye fingers.

The chicken fingers are good portions with fries.

I thought the steak sandwich was disappointing, IMO.

I would agree with that. I usually get the chicken fingers, can't go wrong there. The pulled pork sandwich at the State Fair stand is also very good. If you have time, Hrbek's is worth it. I plan on trying the Townball Tavern the next home stand.

[dontburnthe_pig]

It feels like we're playing the Yankees. We always can keep it close, but manage to lose. 5 out of 6 games against the Rays this year have been decided by 2 runs or less. Fact: good pitching will win over good hitting a vast majority of the time. Our pitching always seems to bend to their will first and that's what causes us to lose.

bj upton last night...

[Xmasjjm]

I would agree with that. I usually get the chicken fingers, can't go wrong there. The pulled pork sandwich at the State Fair stand is also very good. If you have time, Hrbek's is worth it. I plan on trying the Townball Tavern the next home stand.

I was in the Townball tavern on Saturday and it was awesome. I liked it much better than Hrbek's. My brother had the juicy lucy and it looked great...

[davelk10]

So who recommends what to eat at Target Field?

The Tony O Cuban Sandwich is still tops for me

The noodle cart is good as well

[davelk10]

F U Jesse Crain. Bot of 10, tied, 2 outs, and you walk guys on 8 straight pitches

U suck too Capps

[Benny003]

F U Jesse Crain. Bot of 10, tied, 2 outs, and you walk guys on 8 straight pitches

U suck too Capps

It wasn't Capps fault, Young should have made that catch.

[bigeyefish22]

Twins still can't play with the big boys. Been this way the entire decade. Fuck.

[davelk10]

It wasn't Capps fault, Young should have made that catch.

If you knew Delmon, he wasn't making that catch :rolleyes

Still though, a sac fly and a single following that isn't getting it done
Shame to waste a gem from Baker tonight

[davelk10]

Way to make it up there Delmon

Big chance for some damage here

[UNC41]

Delmon! Time to close this one down, boys.

[Benny003]

It wasn't easy, but we got the win. That was an important win coming over Price. Let's get tomorrow's game and come away with a split!

[UNLTrpt]

I was in the Townball tavern on Saturday and it was awesome. I liked it much better than Hrbek's. My brother had the juicy lucy and it looked great...

That's the one...upper level behind home plate ish? That's where we ate when I went. Fantastic stuff.

[davelk10]

Baker looked fantastic tonight. Hopefully this type of pitching will continue, we need him badly if we are going to go anywhere.

[davelk10]

That's the one...upper level behind home plate ish? That's where we ate when I went. Fantastic stuff.

Hrbeks is behind the plate on lower level
Townball tavern is on 2nd level 3rd base side, below the Bud roof deck area, by Capt Morgan bar

[UNLTrpt]

Good win. We deserved that one.

[UNLTrpt]

Hrbeks is behind the plate on lower level
Townball tavern is on 2nd level 3rd base side, below the Bud roof deck area, by Capt Morgan bar

yeah. that's right. We went to Townball. Good stuff.

[davelk10]

yeah. that's right. We went to Townball. Good stuff.

Haven't eaten there yet, always smells great, gotta love bar food.

I will be hitting the Metropolitan club for the next game I go to.

[handsareme]

Damn...so many great options. Thanks for replying! Looks like I'll have to follow my nose and gut. How much do beers run there? Getting married next Saturday and hitting the 8/19 White Sox game on our honeymoon roadtrip!

[davelk10]

beers are 6 or 7 depending on what your getting

[bigeyefish22]

beers are 6 or 7 depending on what your getting

I thought they were like $9 (for Bells)

[davelk10]

I thought they were like $9 (for Bells)

Shit, I haven't had a Bells at a game (usually stick to Summit, Leinie's, or Grain Belt) but no way in hell I'm buying a 12oz beer for $9

[grace2]

Delmon!8

[Benny003]

Haven't eaten there yet, always smells great, gotta love bar food.

I will be hitting the Metropolitan club for the next game I go to.

Yeah, I have to do that too. I told the wife to pick a game she wants to eat there at. This season is really slipping away too fast. I can't believe it's August already. Don't forget to make a reservation if you haven't already.

[bigeyefish22]

Shit, I haven't had a Bells at a game (usually stick to Summit, Leinie's, or Grain Belt) but no way in hell I'm buying a 12oz beer for $9

No shit. No booze at ballgames for me, I'm no sucker! Gimme a coke, I brought my own peanuts. Ridiculous how much money they rake in at sporting events. Well I won't be a party to that, thankyouverymuch.

[Benny003]

No shit. No booze at ballgames for me, I'm no sucker! Gimme a pepsi, I brought my own peanuts. Ridiculous how much money they rake in at sporting events. Well I won't be a party to that, thankyouverymuch.

Fixed unfortunately. I was not pleased when they changed from Coke at the Metrodome to Pepsi at Target Field. At least they have Cherry Pepsi, that's the only saving grace.

[bigeyefish22]

Fixed unfortunately. I was not pleased when they changed from Coke at the Metrodome to Pepsi at Target Field. At least they have Cherry Pepsi, that's the only saving grace.

:eek Are You F'ING Serious?? Wha...... happen..........???

UGH. Thats a buzz kill. Why not just serve Fanta? Orange drink? Is this the minors?

Oh, Im so bothered. SO bothered. :mad

Im gonna write a letter.

[Nick@Night]

Carbonated beverage selection is serious business.

[uro55]

I don't care what the charge, I'll take my 2-3-4 beers at $6 a shot over pop. Also compared to eveywhere else in th MLB world TF is pretty damn cheap booze wise.

[davelk10]

Everybody seen the new Morneau working out with a bear commercial, it's good for a laugh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBjWETNkgpU

[uro55]

They need to have him actually drink maple syrip, IE Super Troopers!

[42graystreet]

Jesse Crain and Ron Mahay can take a flying leap off a dump truck. This should've been an easy win.

[andrewj063]

Why do we have Mahay on our team again?!

[42graystreet]

HAHAHAHA!!!!

The Twins just scored the go-ahead run in the 9th inning thanks to a pop-up that hit the roof of Tropicana Field. That is just great. :lol:lol:lol

[Benny003]

Jesse Crain and Ron Mahay can take a flying leap off a dump truck. This should've been an easy win.

It wasn't Crain's fault. The umpire missed two calls that should have been strikes instead of balls in that at-bat.

HAHAHAHA!!!!

The Twins just scored the go-ahead run in the 9th inning thanks to a pop-up that hit the roof of Tropicana Field. That is just great. :lol:lol:lol

Yes, that was fucking great. They said it's only the second ball to do that in that ballpark (hit the cat-walk and land in play where it was not a homerun).

We deserved to win that game anyway. I think it must have just been God making things right. Very nice to come away with a split in that series though. It does prove that we're able to hang with the tougher teams.

[andrewj063]

Huge win today! nice to see the smaller guys stepping up (Repko, Butera, Valencia).

[phlaming lips]

c'mon detroit tied in the 10th with Chisox:monkey

[grace2]

Huge win today! nice to see the smaller guys stepping up (Repko, Butera, Valencia).
I don't even consider Valencia to be a small guy anymore. He is such a solid hitter. Great win today :lol

[bigeyefish22]

Valnecia needs to stay indefinitely. I hope he can keep up even half of what he's doing now.

Hey, good for Jason Bartlett! Shit, Ron Mahay is packing his bags right now (if not he should be; bet you he's not on the roster in a month). Total hearsay, but I heard or read somewhere, may have been the Twins radio broadcast Monday or Tuesday, that Bartlett was interviewed and said that if the Rays young guys and prospects were in the Twins organization they'd be the best prepared players in the league. Sounds outrageous, I could be wrong.

[UNLTrpt]

HAHAHAHA!!!!

The Twins just scored the go-ahead run in the 9th inning thanks to a pop-up that hit the roof of Tropicana Field. That is just great. :lol:lol:lol

Maddon in post game was saying something like "our pitcher gives up two earned runs there and that's just wrong" "If there isn't another reason to have a new ballpark in this area, thats it right there"

Yeah well Joe, how many calls have you benefited from when balls you hit, hit the roof or catwalk. shut it.

[AJF_41]

grand slam.

our middle relief sucks massive dick.

[grace2]

Yeah, I thought our starting pitching is worse, but it's been coming around lately.

[AJF_41]

^^ i apologize for that, spur of the moment.

[grace2]

This next series is huge. If we play like shit against the Indians, we're gonna have problems playing the White Sox right after.

[UNLTrpt]

This next series is huge. If we play like shit against the Indians, we're gonna have problems playing the White Sox right after.

A series win in both is absolutely necessary

[Benny003]

No comments yet about the game? Hmmm. Tough end to the game. Those umpires must have some kind of mental capacity problems. I don't understand how a ball bounces up after hitting the wall and it's not a homerun. I knew instantly during the live game that it was a homerun without a doubt. It bounced up. I'm not sure what the point of wasting everyone's time with instant replay is if they can't even use it properly.

Oh well, Casilla came up huge for us and saved the day for the time being. Too bad Guerrier hasn't been himself lately. Very frustrating especially since the Orioles gave us a gift in the White Sox game. We need to win the next two games of this series.

[handsareme]

I know I should be concentrating on my upcoming wedding a week from tomorrow...but I'm also psyched up for the game at Target Field on the 19th...

[grace2]

I wasn't able to catch the game, I suppose I'll watch the highlights

[42graystreet]

don't. The Twins fumble around for much of the game, then overcome the worst blown replay in baseball history, just to have Guerrier fuck it up. I'm getting really worried about that guy. He's been suckin wind lately.

[UNLTrpt]

Good win. I know its a long shot but I'd really like to see us creep back into the Wild Card convo as well.

[grace2]

Good win. I know its a long shot but I'd really like to see us creep back into the Wild Card convo as well.
:thumbsup I was thinking this same thing. It's a bit of a long shot, but I don't think it's unrealistic. Especially if the White Sox keep winning the way they do. Anyway, great win last night. Pavano pitched very well, got out of some jams and then the offense didn't force the middle relievers to pitch shutout ball. All around great game.

[UNLTrpt]

another good win. We got the perfect storm too. TB and CWS lost.

[bigeyefish22]

in the Larry King style,

wsox could test our starting rotation, I'm not completely sold on them but I'm happy lately.

Wouldn't be surprised to see an extended Delmon drop off (but, unlike past years, I'd be ok with it), he has to normalize at some point.

Why do we always seem to do better without Morneau? It baffles me. I think it is coincidence. Time might tell. Wouldn't be surprised if he struggled for a bit but that wouldn't bother me.

Still want another starter?

Capps?

(had a smoke for the first time in a long time this afternoon and I thought about the Twins the whole time :) )

[grace2]

It's 100% coincidence we do better without Morneau

[AJF_41]

It's 100% coincidence we do better without Morneau

couldn't agree more.

[dontburnthe_pig]

good last couple wins. pavano and duensing both pitched well.

[Benny003]

We're doing better without Morneau now because our starting pitching is finally working again. We did better last September without Morneau because Cuddyer and Young had the best Septembers they will probably ever have in their careers.

[UNLTrpt]

Tied for the AL Central and didn't have to do a damn thing. Man how awesome would it be to take 2 of 3 or even sweep the bitch sox.

[UNC41]

We're doing better without Morneau now because our starting pitching is finally working again. We did better last September without Morneau because Cuddyer and Young had the best Septembers they will probably ever have in their careers.

Yes! Anyone who thinks the Twins are better off without Morneau needs to remember June-September 2006.

[Benny003]

Yes! Anyone who thinks the Twins are better off without Morneau needs to remember June-September 2006.

Although I still place a big portion of the blame on Morneau for us losing the central division in 2008. He slumped hard the last 2 weeks of the season. In fact, he came up twice with the bases loaded in the second to last game of the season against the Royals that we ended up losing by 2 runs (Link: Morneau was 1 for 5 with 6 men left on base that game (http://minnesota.twins.mlb.com/news/wrap.jsp?ymd=20080927&content_id=3560112&vkey=wrapup2005&fext=.jsp&team=home&c_id=min)). We win that game and the tie-breaker against Chicago wouldn't have been needed.

But yeah, in general, we're a better team with Morneau. What's this I hear about him now not traveling to Chicago with the team? He was supposed to do full team workouts in Chicago, then go to Rochester for rehab before coming back up. That's what Baseball Tonight said just a little bit ago. Has he had another set back?

[UNC41]

Yes, 2008 was disappointing, but are the Twins even in that position if they don't get Morneau's production from April to July that year? I don't think so. I didn't hear about the setback, but that is disappointing.

I really wish that either Kubel or Thome were right handed. It'd be so great to have a bat with some pop at DH/on the bench from each side once Young/Span/Cuddy becomes the most common outfield they play down the stretch.

[bigeyefish22]

Bobby Valentine (I think): Carl Pavano (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=3784) has moved on from his days with the Yankees and he's turned into one of the true leaders on the Twins' staff. He's had 19 wins since June 2009, which is an incredible amount and he's done it by pitching according to the gospel of Rick Anderson. Pavano excels by pitching to a hitter's weakness and not trying to dominate them. The 34-year-old has made an aggressive comeback since he was acquired from the Indians last summer, racking up a 3.71 ERA over 35 starts. No matter how you look at it Pavano's leadership has contributed not only to his own development, but also his teammates.

[bigeyefish22]

50 games and tied, this remains:

WSox: 9 v. Twins, 6 home
10 v. Tigers, 6 home
6 v. Indians, split
6 v. Royals, split

7 v. RSox, 4 home
3 v. Yankees, home
3 v. Orioles, home

3 @ Angels
3 @ Athletics

Twins: 9 v. WSox, 3 home
6 v. Tigers, split
6 v. Indians, split
6 v. Royals, split

4 v. Blue Jays, home

6 v. Athletics, home
7 v. Rangers, 3 home
3 @ Mariners
3 v. Angels, home

Both teams have 28 home games. WSox appear to have more difficult schedule. Twins need to get through 7-game west coast trip (where we have unduly struggled), WSox have a 6-game.

Teams at/above .500: WSox 16, Twins 20. That doesn't count Detroit, who could test WSox, I think.

[42graystreet]

Although I still place a big portion of the blame on Morneau for us losing the central division in 2008. He slumped hard the last 2 weeks of the season. In fact, he came up twice with the bases loaded in the second to last game of the season against the Royals that we ended up losing by 2 runs (Link: Morneau was 1 for 5 with 6 men left on base that game (http://minnesota.twins.mlb.com/news/wrap.jsp?ymd=20080927&content_id=3560112&vkey=wrapup2005&fext=.jsp&team=home&c_id=min)). We win that game and the tie-breaker against Chicago wouldn't have been needed.

But yeah, in general, we're a better team with Morneau. What's this I hear about him now not traveling to Chicago with the team? He was supposed to do full team workouts in Chicago, then go to Rochester for rehab before coming back up. That's what Baseball Tonight said just a little bit ago. Has he had another set back?

Don't you think that's a little harsh to put the blame of an entire season on 2 at bats? I don't think anyone can make an argument that we're a better team without a former MVP. He was having a terrific season and it's too bad that his concussion problems just won't go away. They said on the news last night that he's choosing to come back to the Twin Cities to do his workouts. I hope that's not a minor set back, and just a choice of his on where he wants to do the workouts before going on a minor league stint.

[Benny003]

Don't you think that's a little harsh to put the blame of an entire season on 2 at bats? I don't think anyone can make an argument that we're a better team without a former MVP. He was having a terrific season and it's too bad that his concussion problems just won't go away. They said on the news last night that he's choosing to come back to the Twin Cities to do his workouts. I hope that's not a minor set back, and just a choice of his on where he wants to do the workouts before going on a minor league stint.

Gardy said he wanted Morneau to go through full team workouts before sending him to AAA to get at-bats. Seems odd that they would suddenly change that plan. Maybe that's all it is though or maybe Baseball Tonight reported it wrong. Hopefully he comes back soon.

Yes, I know it's harsh to blame Morneau for 2008. Just frustrating to think that if he would have got just one more hit in that game against the Royals and we would have likely won the division outright. If we would have won the division that year, there is little doubt in my mind that Morneau would have been the MVP that season. It's just too bad that he had a horrid September that year.

[grace2]

I have a good feeling about this series. We've been playing alright and the Sox have been cold.

[Benny003]

Yeah, I'm excited. Things are getting really interesting now.

[42graystreet]

[knocking on wood] we always seem to do well against ChiSux in late season series (notably excluding that gut-wrenching game 163). I hope that trend continues.

Since 2006, the Twins record against Chicago in games after the All-Star break is 24-11.

[Benny003]

We still played well in that game 163 against them. I mean Blackburn pitched the game of his life and we lost because of one solo homerun (from a guy who's now on our team, hehe). I can't wait until the Sox come to town next week. I just have to somehow secure tickets to the Wednesday and Thursday games still. :-(

[dontburnthe_pig]

i echo the other positive vibes about the series against the chi sox. i'm glad the game is being shown on mlb network here in kansas.

[dontburnthe_pig]

twins are beastin

[UNLTrpt]

poor it on boys. Don't hold anything back. Break them in half.

[Nick@Night]

And Kubel sends people towards the exits.

[Benny003]

I'm enjoying this immensely.

[uro55]

I'm enjoying this immensely.

Me too:thumbsup

[UNLTrpt]

great statement.

[grace2]

That was awesome. Nice to see Baker back pitching well and a fantastic hitting performance.

[davelk10]

That was awesome. Nice to see Baker back pitching well and a fantastic hitting performance.

I wouldn't say he pitched great but ill take it

[42graystreet]

I wouldn't say he pitched great but ill take it

He definitely got lucky with all those runs. We would've been on his back a little bit if we had only managed a few runs against Garcia. But all things considered, he did alright. The story of the day was all those homers. That was just a ton of fun to watch.

[bigeyefish22]

Glen Perkins tonight, should be very interesting to see. The little prick. Maybe he's grown up a bit?

[Nick@Night]

Glen Perkins tonight, should be very interesting to see. The little prick. Maybe he's grown up a bit?
I have a feeling he gets pummeled tonight.

[bigeyefish22]

I have a feeling he gets pummeled tonight.

I agree in so many ways but I have a sneaking suspicion He'll be hard to hit. You're probably right though.

[42graystreet]

I'm optimistic that he feels slighted by some of the coaches, and will have a chip on his shoulder. Whether that produces a good performance remains to be seen.

[Nick@Night]

I'm optimistic that he feels slighted by some of the coaches, and will have a chip on his shoulder. Whether that produces a good performance remains to be seen.
He's walking in to a bad situation. Hasn't faced major league hitting in a long while, is facing the potent line-up of a team that got its ass kicked last night so revenge is being sought, and he'll probably try too hard to have a statement outing.

[grace2]

I have a feeling he gets pummeled tonight.
I do too, I don't know where the decision to throw Perkins in during such a big series came from, but whatever.

[42graystreet]

I do too, I don't know where the decision to throw Perkins in during such a big series came from, but whatever.

Slowey's elbow yelled at Gardy and Perkins, who at least has lots of experience starting at the major league level, was the best option on short notice.

[dontburnthe_pig]

I have a feeling he gets pummeled tonight.

probably

[dontburnthe_pig]

do any of you know where i can listen to this game on the internet?

[Nick@Night]

do any of you know where i can listen to this game on the internet?
You should be able to stream from here:
http://1500espn.com/

[42graystreet]

You should be able to stream from here:
http://1500espn.com/

I'm pretty sure that they don't stream Twins games. MLB owns the internet rights to radio broadcasts of baseball games and you'd have to sign up for their package.

[Nick@Night]

I'm pretty sure that they don't stream Twins games. MLB owns the internet rights to radio broadcasts of baseball games and you'd have to sign up for their package.
They don't? Well, fuck. I figured if you tune in on the radio you'd hear the same thing that it would be on the internet too.

[davelk10]

You have to hunt a little bit but you can usually find a station that will stream the game

usually have luck with this page: http://radiotime.com/affiliate/a_37927/station/Minnesota_Twins_Radio_Stations.aspx

[Benny003]

Perkins has been doing well recently in AAA. He says he's gained a lot of confidence lately. I don't have too high of expectations from him, but I think he'll do alright. That being said, our offense will need to show up of course, but I think if we score 5 runs we'll be in good shape.

[42graystreet]

With a thorough search, I'm sure you can find some site that is streaming the game, legally or not. But I doubt you can on the official radio site of the MN Twins. KFAN does the same thing, they don't stream Vikings games.

[UNLTrpt]

Correct. You can't stream games from the radio stations website (or at least they're not supposed to) Legally they can't. You have to find it either on MLB.com or from another website.

[Nick@Night]

Where the fuck are the bats tonight?

[42graystreet]

hopefully that's the last of the Perky Experiment. Danks was good today. Our bats weren't there tonight. Big game tomorrow, psychologically more than anything.

[Benny003]

I can't believe how bad our defense played tonight. Failed tag/bad throw to Cuddyer at first, errant throw by Hardy to first, and Hudson couldn't make a tag at second on the pick-off. They looked amateurish tonight. Hopefully the defense and the bats show up tomorrow night.

[UNLTrpt]

Perkins Experiment #1 = :thumbsdow

Win tomorrow and everything ok.

[grace2]

Perkins Experiment #1 = :thumbsdow

Win tomorrow and everything ok.
:thumbsup

[bigeyefish22]

You guys were right on Perk! Ah well. I never liked him anyway :)

Love the Strib today, placing Perkins squarely in place: While the White Sox piled up runs against Rochester callup Glen Perkins,

Indeed. Big game tonight!

[Benny003]

Perkins only had 4 earned runs. In all honesty, that's not that bad. Obviously it wasn't enough to match up to Danks's great performance, but it really wasn't a bad outing given the situation. It's nearly impossible to win any games when your offense only gives you 1 run.

[monkeyman420]

You know someone is getting hit tonight after Quentin was hit twice last night.

[Benny003]

You know someone is getting hit tonight after Quentin was hit twice last night.

Those weren't even intentional, were they? It seemed completely ridiculous to me that both teams got warned. I thought I heard Dick and Bert say that at one point in time Quentin got beaned in 6 straight games. The dude just gets hit a lot. Maybe he crowds the plate too much. I don't think the Twins were intentionally hitting him though. I mean the second time last night was at his shins, right? If they were trying to bean him, go for chest high, not the shins.

[davelk10]

Those weren't even intentional, were they? It seemed completely ridiculous to me that both teams got warned. I thought I heard Dick and Bert say that at one point in time Quentin got beaned in 6 straight games. The dude just gets hit a lot. Maybe he crowds the plate too much. I don't think the Twins were intentionally hitting him though. I mean the second time last night was at his shins, right? If they were trying to bean him, go for chest high, not the shins.

Yeah, those were nowhere near intentional.
He hangs out over the plate and has a very late reaction to the ball.
That one that hit him in the hands like eerily similiar to that one that broke his wrist a few years ago and robbed him of MVP. No one can make any argument about the one in the shins being intentional.

[dontburnthe_pig]

liriano looks good; big homer by o-dog.

[Benny003]

Beautiful Liriano! Gets out of a no out, bases loaded jam working through the heart of the lineup!

[bigeyefish22]

Beautiful Liriano! Gets out of a no out, bases loaded jam working through the heart of the lineup!

Can he do it again?

[davelk10]

There you go Kubel

[bigeyefish22]

Crain always looks like he's on coke out there.

[LaunchOne]

Looks like you guys will be leaving Chicago up a game. Sox had multiple shots at Liriano tonight and he did some work. These next 6 or so weeks are going to be great.

On an semi-related note, I really dig the road uniforms the Twins wore last night (Wednesday). So much sharper than the pinstripes they used to have.

[bigeyefish22]

I've been happy with Delmon for a long time, still am. But I hear people saying you should excuse the defense because the offense is so good. Well fuck that. One play can make the difference in the playoffs, especially for this team. He needs to pull his head out of his ass. Work Jordan-style, maniacally, until you quit fucking up.

[davelk10]

I've been happy with Delmon for a long time, still am. But I hear people saying you should excuse the defense because the offense is so good. Well fuck that. One play can make the difference in the playoffs, especially for this team. He needs to pull his head out of his ass. Work Jordan-style, maniacally, until you quit fucking up.

Not a very good defensive performance this series by anyone

[42graystreet]

Great win tonight, boys. Kubel comes through in the clutch. Liriano pitched like a champ when he needed to.

Can't wait for the Sox to come to Target Field next week. I'll be at 2 of the games.

[Benny003]

Looks like you guys will be leaving Chicago up a game. Sox had multiple shots at Liriano tonight and he did some work. These next 6 or so weeks are going to be great.

On an semi-related note, I really dig the road uniforms the Twins wore last night (Wednesday). So much sharper than the pinstripes they used to have.

I agree. I never liked those gray pinstripes.

[grace2]

Liriano was dirty!

[UNLTrpt]

Really can't be disappointed with the road trip. Win the Cleveland and CWS series and split the TB series. With the exception of the Bitch Sox loss, we were in every game.

[bigeyefish22]

That was an ugly series. Didn't look like two first-place contenders to me.

[Nick@Night]

Everybody Del Young tonight:

http://images.radcity.net/5163/4435745.mp3

[phlaming lips]

Everybody Del Young tonight:

http://images.radcity.net/5163/4435745.mp3

wts? :lol:lol:lol

[Nick@Night]

wts? :lol:lol:lol
The 93x half-assed morning show made it, it's a follow up to their "Let's Get Denarded" composition.

[42graystreet]

feels good to be in first

[Benny003]

I have an extra single ticket for tonight in Section 315, Row 5 available if anyone wants to go to the game last minute. This is directly behind home plate in the upper deck. Just throwing it out there in case anyone is interested.

[uro55]

I hope there is a game tonight! I work a couple blocks from TF and it's raining something fierce here!

[uro55]

I hope there is a game tonight! I work a couple blocks from TF and it's raining something fierce here!

And now it's not WTF lol.

[Benny003]

And now it's not WTF lol.

Yeah, out in Plymouth we got nailed about 30 minutes ago and now it's sunny as can be (and more humid than a sauna!).

[davelk10]

God damn, Boof has put on the pounds

[42graystreet]

I can't decide if Kubel's fuck up is excusable or not. I love the hustle, but you need to make a smart decision when you're rounding 2nd that the guy rounding 3rd will make it home in case you get thrown out. You probably shouldn't go to 3rd if there's any chance you get thrown out, so I guess Kubel fucked up. idiot.

[PilotC150]

I have never in my life seen a less coordinated outfielder than Delmon Young. Holy shit he sucks!

[42graystreet]

Delmon Young just pulled a Delmon Young. Why isn't he our DH?