Sign I saw in the newspaper at the Bush Protest

[illbackyouup_03]

Saddam was killing his own people. It was none of our business!

Now I am Canadian and therefore have no idea who I would vote for, but this is about the most ignorant thing I have ever seen at a protest.

[lungmigo]

protestwarrior.com

[Number27]

..right.

[tdowe99]

Actually, I don't think it was any of our business. It's his country, and if the people don't like it, they're gonna rise up and kick his ass when the time was right. The Kurds in the North were doing just that. As bad as it is to say, if Hitler had done everything he did inside the German borders, not one country would have stood up against him. It's when he decided to invade other lands that the Allies rose up.

[ss10mets]

Should have used those 130,000 to get Osama in Afghanastan... and the billions that are wasted everday should have been used to create jobs, shore up our defense within the country and help educate our people.........

[BlueWater13]

What i find funny is that awhile ago when there was the genocide happening in Rwanda, Pres. Clinton did absolutely nothing about it, but yet when Saddam was over there killing his people, we immediately jumped in.
This is also the same country that we once gave weapons to, to help them against invasions at the time. I just don't think it was our place to all of a sudden come step in. We were on our mission of revenge against Bin Laden and then all of a sudden we jumped into this, with the excuse of looking for weapons of mass destruction. When easily we have weapons of mass destruction here. Sorry, i completely went off on a tangent and got lost..i'll just stop rambling now.

[illbackyouup_03]

It is bad the american people were lied to, it is bad that americans died for a reason that doesn't really affect them anyway.

Saddam Hussein being ousted however, is not a bad thing.

[saygoodbye12]

What i find funny is that awhile ago when there was the genocide happening in Rwanda, Pres. Clinton did absolutely nothing about it, but yet when Saddam was over there killing his people, we immediately jumped in.

Rwanda doesn't have oil!!!11!!!

[Explicitrydes]

Rwanda doesn't have oil!!!11!!!President Clinton was a pussy who was too tangled up in his own "affairs" to launch an offensive that might have seemed unpopular to some.


And if we went to Iraq for oil then why in the fuck am I paying $2 a gallon for gas when just two years ago before we waged this Oil War I was paying more then 50 cents less? Damn greedy Bush is keeping it all to himself.

[saygoodbye12]

President Clinton was a pussy who was too tangled up in his own "affairs" to launch an offensive that might have seemed unpopular to some.


And if we went to Iraq for oil then why in the fuck am I paying $2 a gallon for gas when just two years ago before we waged this Oil War I was paying more then 50 cents less? Damn greedy Bush is keeping it all to himself.
Since I am in PA now, I am paying $1.76 as opposed to the $2.01 I was paying in NYC this summer. One of the few things this lousy state has going for it. :thumbsup

[barefoot]

Actually, I don't think it was any of our business. It's his country, and if the people don't like it, they're gonna rise up and kick his ass when the time was right. The Kurds in the North were doing just that. As bad as it is to say, if Hitler had done everything he did inside the German borders, not one country would have stood up against him. It's when he decided to invade other lands that the Allies rose up.
It is estimated Saddam killed 7-9 million of his own people, ones that didnt share his view. Killing people that dont share your ideas is a good way to quell rebellion.

[Davenumber40]

Actually, I don't think it was any of our business. It's his country, and if the people don't like it, they're gonna rise up and kick his ass when the time was right. The Kurds in the North were doing just that. As bad as it is to say, if Hitler had done everything he did inside the German borders, not one country would have stood up against him. It's when he decided to invade other lands that the Allies rose up.


This is one of the most amazingly ignorant things I have ever. Thank goodness for oppressed people around the world that we have helped you aren't in a position to make these kinds of calls. Imagine yourself in one of these countries and someone coming in and telling you that it was none of their business.


:thumbsup
It is estimated Saddam killed 7-9 million of his own people, ones that didnt share his view. Killing people that dont share your ideas is a good way to quell rebellion.

[nubby]

It is estimated Saddam killed 7-9 million of his own people, ones that didnt share his view. Killing people that dont share your ideas is a good way to quell rebellion.
Show me the estimates... that's fuckin wrong.

[Davenumber40]

Do you not believe he killed millions of his own people and used chemical weapons on the kurds? How about torturing his political dissenters?

[tdowe99]

You seem to think that America has the moral duty to save oppressed people. In the past this has been quite the opposite. It's all about the money. We supported dictators in Latin America because we got something financially from it.

Open your eyes and see that America is out for itself.

[saygoodbye12]

Open your eyes and see that America is out for itself.
Someone has to look out for us.

[pkpro1]

Saddam was killing his own people. It was none of our business!

Now I am Canadian and therefore have no idea who I would vote for, but this is about the most ignorant thing I have ever seen at a protest.
how is it ignorant? if a hubby and a wife are arguing in another household, are you going to interfere? it's not your place.

leave them the fuck alone.

[pkpro1]

You seem to think that America has the moral duty to save oppressed people. In the past this has been quite the opposite. It's all about the money. We supported dictators in Latin America because we got something financially from it.

Open your eyes and see that America is out for itself.
:thumbsup

[saygoodbye12]

how is it ignorant? if a hubby and a wife are arguing in another household, are you going to interfere? it's not your place.

leave them the fuck alone.
If you hear the hubby beating the shit out of her I would hope if you didn't go over there to try and save her yourself you'd at least call for help.

[pkpro1]

If you hear the hubby beating the shit out of her I would hope if you didn't go over there to try and save her yourself you'd at least call for help.

something we never really did.

[barefoot]

Show me the estimates... that's fuckin wrong.
"By mid-January of 2004, 270 mass graves had been reported. The Free Prisoners Society estimates that 5-7 million people " disappeared" in the past two decades, the majority of them Shiites" this is from the conservative rag National Geographic, June 04.

[Davenumber40]

You seem to think that America has the moral duty to save oppressed people. In the past this has been quite the opposite. It's all about the money. We supported dictators in Latin America because we got something financially from it.

Open your eyes and see that America is out for itself.

#1 Every country when it comes down to it is out for themselves. Not just us. That doesn't mean that we can't go out and do something selfless from time to time.

#2 Because we have made mistakes we can't ever do anything good?

#3 Why don't you think we have a duty to save as many opressed people as we can?

[illbackyouup_03]

how is it ignorant? if a hubby and a wife are arguing in another household, are you going to interfere? it's not your place.

leave them the fuck alone.

How is it ignorant? Saddam was needlessly killing ALOT of people.

May I ask you what Hitler was doing? Right. By your logic, basically as long as Hitler only attacked jews within his own country, his actions were justified.

If you could turn back time, and were the president of the united states, knowing what you know now, would you have stopped hitler before anything got started? Exactly.

No we didn't have to help. I believe, however, it is about time we as a human race stop being such a bunch of bastards to eachother, tell all the people whose lives were saved by Bush that it was none of the United States business. I'm sure they will believe on the contrary.

[ugahairydawgs]

Actually, I don't think it was any of our business. It's his country, and if the people don't like it, they're gonna rise up and kick his ass when the time was right. The Kurds in the North were doing just that. As bad as it is to say, if Hitler had done everything he did inside the German borders, not one country would have stood up against him. It's when he decided to invade other lands that the Allies rose up.
Hitler didn't make a habit of dropping dirty bombs on his fellow Germans the way Saddam did with Iraqis.

[tdowe99]

If you could turn back time, and were the president of the united states, knowing what you know now, would you have stopped hitler before anything got started? Exactly.
I find this quote funny, cuz you're talking about saving people. But in reality, if I knew what the next 60 years would hold, I still would have gone in and let history run it's course. After WWII, America had a huge boom in economy and worldwide power. I wouldn't want to stop that.

[illbackyouup_03]

I find this quote funny, cuz you're talking about saving people. But in reality, if I knew what the next 60 years would hold, I still would have gone in and let history run it's course. After WWII, America had a huge boom in economy and worldwide power. I wouldn't want to stop that.

ooh good point. . kill millions so the economy can prosper

[tdowe99]

Isn't that the Republican way? ;)

[bron]

#1 Every country when it comes down to it is out for themselves. Not just us. That doesn't mean that we can't go out and do something selfless from time to time.

#2 Because we have made mistakes we can't ever do anything good?

#3 Why don't you think we have a duty to save as many opressed people as we can?
#1. Selfless?

#2. America can do good, and it has the power to do good, it just needs to learn how to use that power for good, instead of just telling everyone that what they are doing is right and expecting you to believe it.

#3. Because there are so many other opressed people in the world that America doesn't seem to give a flying fuck about...this had nothing to do with the oppressed people of Iraq. Sorry.


Oh and I agree with what tdowe99 says :thumbsup

[dmb2much40]

Saddam Hussein being ousted however, is not a bad thing.

:thumbsup

he's right up there with hitler.

[nonewdirections]

how is it ignorant? if a hubby and a wife are arguing in another household, are you going to interfere? it's not your place.

leave them the fuck alone.
i'm not really talking about the situation in iraq since i think that human rights were tacked onto this conflict as an afterthought to reign in liberal dissent, but:

at a certain point in the hypothetical situation you have described, the law does have to be enforced. what if he kills his wife? what if his wife tortures him? additionally, there are boundaries where human compassion and decency will cause us or force us to at least consider interfering in situations that do not involve us otherwise. if the police and firefighters internationally decided to "leave people the fuck alone" just because it wasn't their problem or their place to deal with it, where would we be? what would be the purpose of government if everyone is out there on their own, as you seem to imply with this example? i think that we're all brothers and sisters on some level, so we should not be looking for excuses not to help each other, although we must reconcile ourselves with the reality that we can only help each other to a small extent and there will always be a gap between how we would like things to be and how they actually are. that should not stop us from trying.

[nonewdirections]

Hitler didn't make a habit of dropping dirty bombs on his fellow Germans the way Saddam did with Iraqis.
you don't realize that hitler did many worse things? i mean seriously study nazism a bit more before you come out with statements like that. there is nothing to be gained by comparing hussein and hitler, but i do have to say, once you start minimizing the evil actions of one to express your displeasure of the other, you're on shaky ground.

[jrcdmb40]

Actually, I don't think it was any of our business. It's his country, and if the people don't like it, they're gonna rise up and kick his ass when the time was right. The Kurds in the North were doing just that. As bad as it is to say, if Hitler had done everything he did inside the German borders, not one country would have stood up against him. It's when he decided to invade other lands that the Allies rose up.
so if i beat the piss out of you in your own house because you are ignorant its ok? cause i mean, its no ones business, right?

[boob]

my question is why the hell do all of these pussy democrats protest at the gop convention but there wasnt a big stew at your liberal convention? if i had the money, i would have protested the shit out of kerry's crappy party. heinz sucks, i hate ketchup.
also, having numerous family members being activated and deployed to afghanistan, iraq/kuwait, and turkey, we need to be in all of these places. after seeing pictures other than the bias ones you see in the media, you can see what really goes on.

[tdowe99]

so if i beat the piss out of you in your own house because you are ignorant its ok? cause i mean, its no ones business, right?

Uh, is that a threat?
:rolleyes:

It's silly to compare a police dept. service, which we have in America, to worldwide politics.

[jrcdmb40]

i know but its similar, either way your statement was stupid.

[tdowe99]

Rock on.

[jrcdmb40]

cool

[boob]

very cool