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themonkey
09-03-2004, 02:15 AM
Hey everyone. I just got back from the convention and here's my take on the whole thing. I think the Republicans had a fairly boring evening with the exception of George Pataki. When Bush spoke though I was very intrigued. I felt more entertained than moved. I was laughing at his pro life, anti gay marrige portion of the speach (which was horribly small) and then I laughed some more when the activists started up. I always thought the only thing Republicans can be taken seriously on is war, and Bush used it. I'd say about 45 minutes out of his hour long speach was entirely devoted to the Iraq war. Obviously he only focused on the good things that might come from it idealy. I also believed he attacked Kerry too much in a speach where he should be talking about the issues, but don't worry, I think Kerry does just as much of that as Bush. By the end I think it was Bush's best public speach, despite that I truly disliked it. I think voting Dem. or Rep. totaly depends on your priorities. If national security and low taxes are yours then vote Bush. If the environment, healthcare, education, social security, medicare, and gay rights are on your priority list, then Democrat is where to be. In the end I had a great time and some great memories. I also had some surprises to, including running into P Diddy... ( :confused: )

The lesser of two evils.... Kerry. :hug

ODB4LYFE
09-03-2004, 02:17 AM
Nader

mdude85
09-03-2004, 02:20 AM
national security and low taxes are yours then vote Bush. If the environment, healthcare, education, social security, medicare, and gay rights are on your priority list, then Democrat is where to be.

Ha -- in other words, any issue.

stimmerman
09-03-2004, 02:23 AM
Ha -- in other words, any issue.
What the hell does that mean?

themonkey
09-03-2004, 02:26 AM
Lets not start an argument in this thread please... :hug

mdude85
09-03-2004, 02:26 AM
What the hell does that mean?

Try not to get as defensive. That poster listed almost every issue that is of remote importance and told us to vote for Kerry if we cared about it.

tdowe99
09-03-2004, 02:26 AM
It means the Democrats are on the "good" side of all the issues. :p

mdude85
09-03-2004, 02:27 AM
Lets not start an argument in this thread please... :hug

I'm not sure what the point is of having a political forum if arguments are condemned.

stimmerman
09-03-2004, 02:29 AM
Try not to get as defensive. That poster listed almost every issue that is of remote importance and told us to vote for Kerry if we cared about it.
I'm not being defensive, I just didn't understand what you were trying to say in your post.

themonkey
09-03-2004, 02:31 AM
I'm not sure what the point is of having a political forum if arguments are condemned.

eh....you win...

mdude85
09-03-2004, 02:31 AM
I'm not being defensive, I just didn't understand what you were trying to say in your post.

is that why you inserted "hell" in there for no reason?

mdude85
09-03-2004, 02:32 AM
eh....you win...

I think I love you.... :p

tdowe99
09-03-2004, 02:33 AM
How close were you to the action, themonkey?

themonkey
09-03-2004, 02:40 AM
I was in a skybox, wasn't nearly as bad as it seems.. NYC dave fans know how long the lower sections are. they were covered by a floor about only 1/4 of the way from the top so it was all much higher. I was also right above where the first girl demostrator was. It made the bush speach all the more fun. :angel

tdowe99
09-03-2004, 02:41 AM
Do you think if somebody had an anti-Bush shirt on that they'd be kicked out of the RNC? I noticed that all the protesters shouted stuff (the guy at Cheney, the AIDS people at the youths, etc). If somebody had a shirt, and not loud yells, do you still think they'd be harrassed and kicked out?

themonkey
09-03-2004, 02:42 AM
Sorry guys I'm exausted... bed time... :o

oh and no I saw a few anti-bush shirts. I was subtle enough to wear a pin...."Re defeat Bush in 2004"

See you all later...

stimmerman
09-03-2004, 02:47 AM
is that why you inserted "hell" in there for no reason?
Why Scott, I didn't know you were so easily offended. I guess I'll have to watch my mouth around you.

The question still stands: What the heck does that mean?

save me
09-03-2004, 08:10 AM
Hey everyone. I just got back from the convention and here's my take on the whole thing. I think the Republicans had a fairly boring evening with the exception of George Pataki. When Bush spoke though I was very intrigued. I felt more entertained than moved. I was laughing at his pro life, anti gay marrige portion of the speach (which was horribly small) and then I laughed some more when the activists started up. I always thought the only thing Republicans can be taken seriously on is war, and Bush used it. I'd say about 45 minutes out of his hour long speach was entirely devoted to the Iraq war. Obviously he only focused on the good things that might come from it idealy. I also believed he attacked Kerry too much in a speach where he should be talking about the issues, but don't worry, I think Kerry does just as much of that as Bush. By the end I think it was Bush's best public speach, despite that I truly disliked it. I think voting Dem. or Rep. totaly depends on your priorities. If national security and low taxes are yours then vote Bush. If the environment, healthcare, education, social security, medicare, and gay rights are on your priority list, then Democrat is where to be. In the end I had a great time and some great memories. I also had some surprises to, including running into P Diddy... ( :confused: )

The lesser of two evils.... Kerry. :hug

Thanks for posting the read! Sounds interesting...quite an experience!

ugahairydawgs
09-03-2004, 08:26 AM
It means the Democrats are on the "good" side of all the issues. :p
If by good you mean bad...then yes....I agree :)

mdude85
09-03-2004, 09:52 AM
Why Scott, I didn't know you were so easily offended. I guess I'll have to watch my mouth around you.

The question still stands: What the heck does that mean?

I don't get easily offended -- you seem to get easily defensive.

:rolleyes:

Besides I already told you what it means.

Davenumber40
09-03-2004, 10:46 AM
Hey everyone. I just got back from the convention and here's my take on the whole thing. I think the Republicans had a fairly boring evening with the exception of George Pataki. When Bush spoke though I was very intrigued. I felt more entertained than moved. I was laughing at his pro life, anti gay marrige portion of the speach (which was horribly small) and then I laughed some more when the activists started up. I always thought the only thing Republicans can be taken seriously on is war, and Bush used it. I'd say about 45 minutes out of his hour long speach was entirely devoted to the Iraq war. Obviously he only focused on the good things that might come from it idealy. I also believed he attacked Kerry too much in a speach where he should be talking about the issues, but don't worry, I think Kerry does just as much of that as Bush. By the end I think it was Bush's best public speach, despite that I truly disliked it. I think voting Dem. or Rep. totaly depends on your priorities. If national security and low taxes are yours then vote Bush. If the environment, healthcare, education, social security, medicare, and gay rights are on your priority list, then Democrat is where to be. In the end I had a great time and some great memories. I also had some surprises to, including running into P Diddy... ( :confused: )

The lesser of two evils.... Kerry. :hug

It sickens me that you got to go to the convention and I had to watch it on TV. ;)

System
09-03-2004, 10:49 AM
I'm not sure what the point is of having a political forum if arguments are condemned.

Politics is another definition for controlled arguements

marco j
09-03-2004, 10:54 AM
i think it's funy how many protesters actually made it in!!! i didn't see any protesters at the DNC ....hmmm i wonder why everyone's so mad at bush/cheney?!?!?

cyberhound
09-03-2004, 10:57 AM
i think it's funy how many protesters actually made it in!!! i didn't see any protesters at the DNC ....hmmm i wonder why everyone's so mad at bush/cheney?!?!?
The protesters at the DNC were kept in a fenced in area by the Boston PD.

marco j
09-03-2004, 10:58 AM
The protesters at the DNC were kept in a fenced in area by the Boston PD.

how many 12?! :lol

please

cyberhound
09-03-2004, 10:59 AM
how many 12?! :lol

please
Well, you said you didn't see any. Some were there. It was probably more than 12 though.

System
09-03-2004, 11:01 AM
i think it's funy how many protesters actually made it in!!! i didn't see any protesters at the DNC ....hmmm i wonder why everyone's so mad at bush/cheney?!?!?

Cause Kerry has not done anything ever to be protested about.

Can't get mad at somebody for something he took a stand on if they never makes a decision on what to stand for

marco j
09-03-2004, 11:06 AM
Cause Kerry has not done anything ever to be protested about.

Can't get mad at somebody for something he took a stand on if they never makes a decision on what to stand for


:rolleyes:

yeah you go to war kill a few people and watch a few friends die
and then come home and start protesting the war and it's atrocities.

just cuz the republicans say he doesn't stick to anything doesn't make it true.

oh and i thought it was funny the other night when cheney ridiculed kerry for his voting when he(cheney) voted the same on some .

Fluff
09-03-2004, 11:44 AM
how many 12?! :lol

please



more like 5000

marco j
09-03-2004, 11:47 AM
that's a respectable number i guess.

tdowe99
09-03-2004, 01:07 PM
I think it's less than 5000. I heard something that said that NYC Police arrested more people than the DNC's total number of protesters.

Number27
09-03-2004, 01:35 PM
Nader
Figures...

stimmerman
09-03-2004, 01:36 PM
That poster listed almost every issue that is of remote importance and told us to vote for Kerry if we cared about it.
All the poster said was that his choice for the lesser of two evils was Kerry. He obviously cares about the same issues Kerry does. He listed two issues that relate to Bush, national security and low taxes, are those not of remote importance?

jrock5730
09-03-2004, 01:43 PM
All the poster said was that his choice for the lesser of two evils was Kerry. He obviously cares about the same issues Kerry does. He listed two issues that relate to Bush, national security and low taxes, are those not of remote importance?

can you read?


I wish I could stay and hear your answer, but I am leaving to go to the beach. I look forward to reading up when I get back. You should read the post over again, then make another statement, because what you said is dumb.

stimmerman
09-03-2004, 01:49 PM
can you read?


I wish I could stay and hear your answer, but I am leaving to go to the beach. I look forward to reading up when I get back. You should read the post over again, then make another statement, because what you said is dumb.
In answer to your question, yes I am able to read.

Have fun at the beach. I'm going to have to disagree with you about the dumb thing. I might agree if I could have some more clarification on your part. My response was not directed towards you anyway. I was just trying to clarify something for myself that went on yesterday. Thanks for you constructive comments, though.

mdude85
09-03-2004, 01:57 PM
All the poster said was that his choice for the lesser of two evils was Kerry. He obviously cares about the same issues Kerry does. He listed two issues that relate to Bush, national security and low taxes, are those not of remote importance?

Note the "almost." Secondly, all those issues combined, I think at least, are more important than simply these two: national security and low taxes.

stimmerman
09-03-2004, 02:22 PM
Note the "almost." Secondly, all those issues combined, I think at least, are more important than simply these two: national security and low taxes.
Almost noted, I'm sorry this whole discussion started.

Super, that's what makes you a Republican.

nonewdirections
09-03-2004, 02:34 PM
when is this going to hit the ants SHN server?

mdude85
09-03-2004, 03:22 PM
Almost noted, I'm sorry this whole discussion started.

Super, that's what makes you a Republican.

You mean, uh..."that's what makes me a Democrat?"

themonkey
09-03-2004, 07:01 PM
All the poster said was that his choice for the lesser of two evils was Kerry. He obviously cares about the same issues Kerry does. He listed two issues that relate to Bush, national security and low taxes, are those not of remote importance?

I basically stated all the issues important to me, but I feel issues at home are being ignored by conservatives and low taxes seem great, but they won't help anything like education or social security.