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Terje
09-03-2004, 05:35 AM
Post quotes you think is relevant in these election times.... :)

Beware the leader who bangs the drum of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor. For patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and patriotism, will offer up all of their rights to the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Julius Caesar. --- Julius Caesar

"Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ..Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger." --- Hermann Goering (Nuremberg Trials)

TheJCLer
09-03-2004, 08:14 PM
way to be objective...

ambysshrink
09-03-2004, 08:42 PM
"This thread is lame."

cyberhound
09-03-2004, 08:53 PM
"The government consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office. Their principal device to that end is to search out groups who pant and pine for something they can't get and to promise to give it to them. Nine times out of ten that promise is worth nothing. The tenth time is made good by looting A to satisfy B. In other words, government is a broker in pillage, and every election is sort of an advance auction sale of stolen goods."[H. L. Mencken]

eric_dmbfan03
09-03-2004, 10:28 PM
"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism," - President Thomas Jefferson

DMBSignGuy
09-04-2004, 12:48 AM
"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism," - President Thomas Jefferson

ahh you stole my quote :violent

well i can add the quote thats in my sig....lets all give Clinton a big thanks for keeping our military in great shape for the wars in afganistan and iraq. :hug hope your feeling better after surgery big guy :monkey

eric_dmbfan03
09-04-2004, 12:57 AM
Speaking of Clinton and surgery, at a rally in Wisconsin today, Bush supporters booed when he wished the best of health to Clinton.

Terje
09-05-2004, 04:27 AM
way to be objective...

I wasn't trying to be...

jrock5730
09-07-2004, 06:21 PM
"The government consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office. Their principal device to that end is to search out groups who pant and pine for something they can't get and to promise to give it to them. Nine times out of ten that promise is worth nothing. The tenth time is made good by looting A to satisfy B. In other words, government is a broker in pillage, and every election is sort of an advance auction sale of stolen goods."[H. L. Mencken]


and you say trust government-HAHAHAHA

ambysshrink
09-07-2004, 06:59 PM
and you say trust government-HAHAHAHA
Oh boy...

Eric(h)
09-07-2004, 07:30 PM
There are some things that can beat smartness and foresight. Awkwardness and stupidity can. The best swordsman in the world doesn't need to fear the second best swordsman in the world; no, the person for him to be afraid of is some ignorant antagonist who has never had a sword in his hand before; he doesn't do the thing he ought to do, and so the expert isn't prepared for him. ~ Mark Twain

Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it ~ Mark Twain

...throughout human history, as our species has faced the frightening, terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are, or where we are going in the ocean of chaos... it has been the authorities... the political, the religious, the educational authorities who have attempted to comfort us by giving us order, rules, regulations... informing... forming in our minds thier views of reality. to think for your self you must question authority, and learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable open-mindedness, chaotic, confused vulnerability to inform yourself. ~ Timothy Leary

Saddam_Hussein
09-07-2004, 07:31 PM
"To err is human, but to forgive is devine."

cyberhound
09-07-2004, 08:34 PM
and you say trust government-HAHAHAHA
I also say this:

Never argue with idiots. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Guess that means I'll never argue with you.

jrock5730
09-08-2004, 02:18 PM
I also say this:

Never argue with idiots. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Guess that means I'll never argue with you.

you should also never argue with yourself, because you are the biggest fucking joke I have ever seen. To hell with you and your government bullshit, its people like you who have brought this country down to where it is today. :twak :twak :violent :twak

Terje
09-13-2004, 05:11 AM
"Loyalty to the country always; loyalty to the government only when it deserves it." --- Mark Twain

If something is repeated over and over as obvious, the chances are that it is obviously false. --- Noam Chomsky

For those who stubbornly seek freedom, there can be no more urgent task than to come to understand the mechanisms and practices of indoctrination. These are easy to perceive in the totalitarian societies, much less so in the system of 'brainwashing under freedom' to which we are subjected and which all too often we serve as willing or unwitting instruments. --- Noam Chomsky

mantra4
09-13-2004, 05:18 AM
"only when the power of love overcomes the love of power,
the world will know peace."

-jimi hendrix

Gary
09-13-2004, 05:23 AM
"Those that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."- Benjamin Franklin

DMBSignGuy
09-14-2004, 06:01 PM
"The object of government is the welfare of the people." "Conservation means development as much as it does protection. I recognize the right and duty of this generation to develop and use the natural resources of our land; but I do not recognize the right to waste them, or to rob, by wasteful use, the generations that come after us."
-Theodore Roosevelt

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."

-Theodore Roosevelt

haildmb
09-14-2004, 06:13 PM
and you say trust government-HAHAHAHA


man, oil and water... some people mix with sarcasm the same way oil mixes with water

mwjorgens
09-15-2004, 12:30 AM
Speaking of Clinton and surgery, at a rally in Wisconsin today, Bush supporters booed when he wished the best of health to Clinton.
yea that sounds about right

mdmt619
09-15-2004, 12:35 AM
"democracy is the worst form of government....



...except when compated to everything else"-Winston Churchill

DMBSignGuy
09-15-2004, 12:55 AM
Democracy is the most vile form of government... democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention: have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property: and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.
-James Madison

DollyLlama
09-15-2004, 12:56 AM
"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies." -Nietzsche

Keep this one in mind all you Bush supporters who have confused arrogance with strength and thick-skulled stubbornness with decisiveness. I've got to think that you hang on to this decisiveness thing simply because it sounds good. It's embarrassing to think that you would actually value decisiveness so much even when the decisions made have been so clearly wrong. At what point will all of you finally get fed up with George Bush? Does he have to eat a small child on TV? Or will you still say he at least did it decisively?

DMBSignGuy
09-15-2004, 01:03 AM
"Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm."
James Madison, Federalist No. 10, November 23, 1787

;)