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colorgreen what
09-14-2004, 06:22 PM
I was talking to someone and they had mentioned to me that DMB strongly supports abortion and they give a lot of money in support of abortion and I was wondering if this was true or not. I mean, they are pretty damn liberal so I really have no idea.

Mark
09-14-2004, 06:26 PM
who the fuck said that?

*shakes head*

Rob
09-14-2004, 06:27 PM
Before posting something like that, it'd be a good idea to do a little research. Regardless, what does it matter?

colorgreen what
09-14-2004, 06:29 PM
I was just curious, not assaultive.

sliver108
09-14-2004, 06:30 PM
I wouldn’t doubt that they are for it and do donate to it. I am in the middle on that one because I believe it is a case by case situation and not black and white. If my x girlfriend that was raped at age 13 got pregnant I am quite sure she wouldn’t want the child.

Why don’t you send an e-mail to their web site people and ask them for the bands stance on that topic. At least you will be pretty sure you get the correct answer.

dmsurfer2011
09-14-2004, 06:43 PM
i dont mean this offensively, but would it change your opinion on it one way or another?

dmsurfer2011
09-14-2004, 06:45 PM
But i also agree that a subject this contraversial needs to be solely factual.

colorgreen what
09-14-2004, 06:47 PM
I just thought of something.....the song "deed is done". A lot of their music is in fact symbolic.



Oh, so I'm praying all at night
And I wake up praying the whole daylight
I pray to you, and hear my request
I ask of you to save this baby
Oh, look at the girl
Awful inside, is cancer-eaten, is life-deprived,
And if so by who? Could it be you?
I see no need for a baby's wisdom for you

Oh, God, the girl, all yellow turned
Her cheeks are swollen, and soul is burned
Oh, but the girl, the girl is gone
And the deed is done, oh it must be wrong

Oh and I pray, my prayer's not heard
Could it be your death, death to mortal words?
Oh, and see her pain, and drain and drain
Could you be deaf, and blind my friend?
Oh, and so we hold
Cannot you not hear? Cannot you not see?
And if with words
You could change the way things are arranged
Surely you'd be speaking, speaking no change
Oh, but the girl, deaf, dumb, and blind
From the cancer burning deep down inside
Oh, but the deed is done
And the girl is gone
I see no faith
That I have won

Well, you may find your religion
You may find your attraction
You may go, for me the girl is gone

Oh, you may find you're faithful
You may find out the reaction
But to me, the baby's gone
The baby...
Hey... hey...


ps. my opinion on the topic is not going to change one way or another.

Route_2
09-14-2004, 06:48 PM
pro-choice not pro-abortion

colorgreen what
09-14-2004, 06:49 PM
I must keep in mind this wasn't a post meant for personal beliefs on the topic. I was just curious where DMB stands on it.

dmsurfer2011
09-14-2004, 07:03 PM
i am all about people having the right to make choices. I just dont believe that we should have the right to offer someone the A SAFE WAY of killing a kid.

colorgreen what
09-14-2004, 07:05 PM
I must keep in mind this wasn't a post meant for personal beliefs on the topic. I was just curious where DMB stands on it.
not a thread for a controversial debate.

sliver108
09-14-2004, 07:08 PM
i dont mean this offensively, but would it change your opinion on it one way or another?
surfer....were you asking that?

jester29
09-14-2004, 07:20 PM
But i also agree that a subject this contraversial needs to be solely factual.

Actually, I have to disagree. This is all opinion. Share yours, or discuss options.... heck, even play devil's advocate (like I usually do). But don't worry about the facts of what celebrities think... :)

colorgreen what
09-14-2004, 07:29 PM
The Dave Matthews Band is a very political group, and abortion is a very political topic. It's all out of curiosity.

dmsurfer2011
09-14-2004, 07:30 PM
I dont want to say that DMB does or doesn't based off of speculation.
I am not for or opposed on debating the issue. But the truth is that it is and always will be a contrversial issue. whether your talking about your own belief or the belief of someone else.
sliver-YES

penn darvis
09-14-2004, 07:33 PM
pro-choice not pro-abortion
The euphemism doesn't really change anything.

Route_2
09-14-2004, 07:34 PM
The euphemism doesn't really change anything.so true

seekup422
09-14-2004, 07:39 PM
http://www.dmband.com/bama/bama_horton.asp in that list Planned Parenthood is named, so I'm guessing that yes, they do donate money to the Charlottesville chapter and nationally since those are the links they have there. Other than that I'm not getting into a discussion about this.

colorgreen what
09-14-2004, 07:41 PM
http://www.dmband.com/bama/bama_horton.asp in that list Planned Parenthood is named, so I'm guessing that yes, they do donate money to the Charlottesville chapter and nationally since those are the links they have there. Other than that I'm not getting into a discussion about this.

THANK YOU!!!! !!!!

dmsurfer2011
09-14-2004, 07:43 PM
thanks for the info

colorgreen what
09-14-2004, 07:44 PM
thats all this post was meant to be.

dmsurfer2011
09-14-2004, 07:54 PM
sorry if i took it the wrong way. definitley wasnt my intention.

sliver108
09-14-2004, 07:57 PM
I dont want to say that DMB does or doesn't based off of speculation.
I am not for or opposed on debating the issue. But the truth is that it is and always will be a contrversial issue. whether your talking about your own belief or the belief of someone else.
sliver-YES
I have mixed views on a bunch of different topics. One would be abortion and the other would be guns. I think abortion is the hardest one though. I don’t believe that people being irresponsible should lead to death for sure. It is just a rough topic I guess.

dmsurfer2011
09-14-2004, 08:07 PM
it is a very tough topic and i am the same way. it is the toughest topic for me to talk about. but i also have some very strong convictions on the subject.

colorgreen what
09-14-2004, 08:11 PM
The ethics of it are so out of whack. It's virtually impossible to find common ground in the matter, because it all come downs to the plain simple fact if the individual believes a life is formed at conception or at birth. It's a useless subject to debate, and therefore should not be debated unless you're a politician.

BKeener
09-14-2004, 08:12 PM
I think it's unfair that we allow women to kill their unwanted children while we force men to pay for theirs

dmsurfer2011
09-14-2004, 08:21 PM
i don't think its a political issue. i think its just a poeple issue. i think its about not denying a child the right to live and have a chance to do great things for not only himself but to inspire the world around him. I dont believe we should have the right to say that he or she doesn't have that choice.

SatelliteEyes
09-14-2004, 10:29 PM
I can't imagine anyone is pro-abortion. Abortion is a terrible, terrible thing that I wish never happened. However, I am pro-choice. While I would never want my girlfriend/wife/partner to have an abortion I think it is a woman's choice...with some exceptions, such as partial birth (unless there is a health risk to the woman).

I guess I feel that we could outlaw abortions and the people who want them would then kill the baby after it was born, abandon it, get an illegal/unsafe abortion/etc so it is a necessary evil.

SatelliteEyes
09-14-2004, 10:29 PM
By the way, I thought this thread was gonna be about getting an abortion while listening to DMB.

AnyonebutBush
09-15-2004, 01:59 AM
pro-choice not pro-abortion:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

tdowe99
09-15-2004, 02:24 AM
Just because one donates to Planned Parenthood does not mean they are pro-abortion. PP is for family planning... that is, mature people planning when and how they bring a child into the world. Contraceptives are a big part of PP.

boilermaker26
09-15-2004, 03:28 AM
Just because one donates to Planned Parenthood does not mean they are pro-abortion. PP is for family planning... that is, mature people planning when and how they bring a child into the world. Contraceptives are a big part of PP.


As is providing women with a choice when dealing with unwanted pregnancies.