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ss10mets
09-18-2004, 06:16 AM
What is your honest belief on how the war is going? When do you see peace occuring in the region? How do you feel the country will last once we pull out?
Just wanna hear from the other side because I do not like the way things are going, please honest answers no attacking anything.
marco j
09-18-2004, 12:32 PM
i will respond. as probably everyone knows by now i am against this 'war' in Iraq.
i will say with reading everyday and listening to the news and NPR for the moments feed of what's going on it is not going well at all and there needs to be more focus from us the citizens on this topic. we need to be putting more pressure on our leaders, bush and hopefully soon Kerry to take control of this situation and figure a way to get the country stabalized and get our troops the hell out of there. i think if Kerry came out swonging now about how he thinks the war is going badly and he now wants to bring everyone home immediately he would win in a heart beat. but he wont .
i applaud you for making a thread dedicated to this because this right now is the most important thing happening to our country. it simply effects everything.
AnyonebutBush
09-18-2004, 12:45 PM
Its the best way to Create terrorism!
marco j
09-18-2004, 12:53 PM
Its the best way to Create terrorism!
this couldn't be truer.
sliver108
09-18-2004, 01:08 PM
see the new thread about 15,000 going over there soon?
Carbon Copy
09-18-2004, 01:15 PM
i Support Our "troops"
marco j
09-18-2004, 01:17 PM
i Support Our "troops"
:thumbsup great so do I!
*edit*
sorry but i'm thinking why are you putting your post in big bold words?!?!
do you think everyone who wants the war to stop doesn't support our troops(friends and family)?!?!!? to be anti-war is patriotic and the only way to gaurantee safety to our children.
tdowe99
09-18-2004, 01:55 PM
I support our troops, but not the dumbasses who sent them there.
Carbon Copy
09-18-2004, 02:06 PM
I support our troops, but not the dumbasses who sent them there.
thats why i made it in big bold....i support the "troops" not the war
ss10mets
09-18-2004, 03:20 PM
While I believe everything you guys are saying, we don't support the war..... still no replies from people who support Bush and the war. This isn't a hard question yet no answers, come on.
saygoodbye12
09-18-2004, 08:33 PM
I don't think anyone can honestly answer your first question unless they have experience or some kind of real knowledge about war and rebuilding.
Is 1,000 American deaths a lot for a war like this? I don't know.
Do I think we could be doing better? Sure...but that doesn't mean it's possible.
DMBSignGuy
09-18-2004, 11:08 PM
I don't think anyone can honestly answer your first question unless they have experience or some kind of real knowledge about war and rebuilding.
Is 1,000 American deaths a lot for a war like this? I don't know.
Do I think we could be doing better? Sure...but that doesn't mean it's possible.
well we could look at bush's record for nation building. we just have to look over at afganistan and the mess thats in. we'd be lucky if the elections actually take place on time in october so we can continue to control only Kabul.
tyler1389
09-19-2004, 02:33 AM
I'll answer this way:
You asked how the war was going, but I'm not sure how someone can answer that. What war has ever gone "well?"
Dancing Ants
09-19-2004, 03:03 AM
Do I think we could be doing better? Sure...but that doesn't mean it's possible.
every war could've gone better.
AggieDMBFan06
09-19-2004, 03:35 AM
Ill answer like this:
I dont like war, but I believe it was a good thing to go over there (whatever reason it was under). I would rather have Sadam or any horrible dictator out of power than have him in power (i think yall can agree with that, at least i hope).
I can see yalls point that it was unnecessary but i dont believe that. Id rather believe that President Bush is doing some kind of good than be a pesimist (sp?). I have friends in Iraq 13 to be exact. They believe its a good thing we're over there (All of them believe that) I think the war could be going better but like dancingants said what war couldnt of gone better. Global Peace is not going to happen anytime soon. Actually it wont happen ever. And for those of yall who believe it can happen wake up please. I just know that not everyone will like each other. Shit we got people who dont like each other here in the US. Im just a rational thinker. I believe GWB made the best choice at the time he needed to made a choice (thats called rational choice in World Politics. Take that class it'll teach you alot) Some of yall are idealist which is good but not really.
Like Pres. Bush said, i believe this is an unwinnable war cause everyones going to hate us either way. I hope our troops come back soon but its going to take a while. I hope they are back in 2-5 years. Thatd be awesome so i will be able to go over and help the children of Iraq. Why doesnt the media show that? My friends are pissed cause they hear that the media does not pass the great work they do over there just the bad.
Oh well flame me all you want. I prolly wont respond to it. But who care TEXAS A&M BEAT CLEMSON! Cause we're better!!!! This is THE REAL DEATH VALLEY!!! and im drunk as shit GIG'EM AGGIES AAA WHOOP!!!
ss10mets
09-19-2004, 06:51 AM
What about the fact he said the war is cannot be won then retracts that statement the next day under intense scrutiny and says it can be?? thats the flip flopping you love to criticize so well
saygoodbye12
09-19-2004, 11:38 AM
What about the fact he said the war is cannot be won then retracts that statement the next day under intense scrutiny and says it can be?? thats the flip flopping you love to criticize so well
That was about the war on terror.
Davenumber40
09-19-2004, 01:11 PM
Just because there are great difficulties in Iraq or Afganistan doesn't mean we should be discouraged and quit; these terrorists are not going to quit. They fight democracy because they hate the idea of their country having choices. Plus let's not forget that a lot of these terrorists are foriegn. They poured in from all over before the war in Iraq.
I think things are going about as well as we can expect them. When you think about it our casulties really aren't that bad. I know 1 is 1 too many. But we ousted two governments and have been occupying those countries since. We have to expect losses.
My thing is, we rarely see good stories from Iraq. You know there are great things happening there every day with our soldiers and Iraqis and afghans too. We are making enemies but I think we are making more friends among thsoe country's populations.
ss10mets
09-19-2004, 02:29 PM
That was about the war on terror.
Isn't the war in Iraq part of the fight against terror?
DMBSignGuy
09-19-2004, 05:39 PM
Isn't the war in Iraq part of the fight against terror?
nope
DevilishAliya
09-19-2004, 05:58 PM
I support our troops, but not the dumbasses who sent them there.
:thumbsup agree so much with this, its going in my sig.
tdowe99
09-19-2004, 06:38 PM
Ooo, i feel honored. ;) I've never had a sig-worthy quote before.
ordis
09-19-2004, 07:33 PM
can someone explain to me why we are in iraq? hasnt it already been proven that bin laden is the one behind 911, yet he's a saudi and lived in afganistan. i just dont see where iraq comes into the equation?
Storythree
09-19-2004, 07:35 PM
Its the best way to Create terrorism!
The best way to create terrorism is to indirectly justify the culprits by blaming those who irk them.
Like you just did.
Storythree
09-19-2004, 07:37 PM
can someone explain to me why we are in iraq? hasnt it already been proven that bin laden is the one behind 911, yet he's a saudi and lived in afganistan. i just dont see where iraq comes into the equation?
Iraq was a very influential and dangerous entity in a region that was breeding fundamentalism and fueling the larger picture of global terrorism.
ordis
09-19-2004, 07:47 PM
Iraq was a very influential and dangerous entity in a region that was breeding fundamentalism and fueling the larger picture of global terrorism.
and we're not in saudi arabia because.....
Storythree
09-19-2004, 07:49 PM
and we're not in saudi arabia because.....
global politics and war are much more complex than just going where the terrorists are. Saudi Arabia was not as 'easy' as Iraq for a whole mess of reasons. Plus, there are strategic advantages to moving in on Iraq.
ordis
09-19-2004, 07:55 PM
global politics and war are much more complex than just going where the terrorists are. Saudi Arabia was not as 'easy' as Iraq for a whole mess of reasons. Plus, there are strategic advantages to moving in on Iraq.
im just curious about this because i bet if you asked 50 US citizens why we are in iraq they would say it has something to do with terrorism and 911. obviously it is more than that but why are we led to believe otherwise? if the real reason we picked iraq to invade over saudi arabia was because it was easier, im ashamed to be american...
ss10mets
09-19-2004, 07:55 PM
nope
Then if the fight against terror is not being fought in Iraq, what are we doing there??? This has made our country a lot weaker within out own borders and we have 150,000 troops in a country that had nothing to do with our war against terror???? How is Bush strong against terror if this is true...
Storythree
09-19-2004, 07:59 PM
im just curious about this because i bet if you asked 50 US citizens why we are in iraq they would say it has something to do with terrorism and 911. obviously it is more than that but why are we led to believe otherwise? if the real reason we picked iraq to invade over saudi arabia was because it was easier, im ashamed to be american...
hahahah, dont be ashamed to be an american. A lot goes into planning wars besides ideology and beliefs. It made more sense for America, as a country, to move into Iraq than into Saudi Arabia. There is nothing wrong with that.
As for "why we are led to believe otherwise?" I have no idea. I almost wish I did, but then I get tired. Plus, I dont claim to know the truth to everything. These are all just my opinions given the information available to me.
AnyonebutBush
09-20-2004, 02:30 AM
The best way to create terrorism is to indirectly justify the culprits by blaming those who irk them.
Like you just did.So are you a terrorist now?
Storythree
09-20-2004, 03:31 AM
So are you a terrorist now?
I never said you were a terrorist. I said that justifying their actions by blaming different parties merely strengthens them. I dont blame you for their action. I claim you make them stronger.
#34->Raven
09-20-2004, 03:38 AM
for as glad as i am that saddam is removed, i am not a fan of how the war started and how it was planned.
even with all the people saying the UN are pussies, i still without a doubt think that we should have gotten UN support before we went in. there was a reason that they were not buying our WMD argument, but we said fuck em, now we are paying the price. in american lives, and fiscally.
UN support would have given us many more troops to help stabalize iraq, something we are struggling to do.
DMBSignGuy
09-20-2004, 04:15 AM
Then if the fight against terror is not being fought in Iraq, what are we doing there??? This has made our country a lot weaker within out own borders and we have 150,000 troops in a country that had nothing to do with our war against terror???? How is Bush strong against terror if this is true...
oh the fight on terror is being fought in iraq.....after we invaded. we brought a whole host of terrorists to iraq after invading the country. bush is "strong" on terror because he has convinced the american public that Iraq is just a part of the war on terror. a whole host of countries fit the reasons why we invaded iraq better than iraq did. pakistan, iran, saudi arabia just to name a few. but there are far better geo-political reasons to invade iraq at this point in time, the reasons of which can be explained at length.
Rippy
09-21-2004, 02:09 PM
Whoever supports this war should be forced to watch the american beheading that just happened. Absolutly sickening. A kid here at school got it on the net. I couldnt sleep, it was absolutly god awful. The poor man was alive till the very end. All the war supporters should watch this just to see how "good" this war is going....
ss10mets
09-21-2004, 04:52 PM
oh the fight on terror is being fought in iraq.....after we invaded. we brought a whole host of terrorists to iraq after invading the country. bush is "strong" on terror because he has convinced the american public that Iraq is just a part of the war on terror. a whole host of countries fit the reasons why we invaded iraq better than iraq did. pakistan, iran, saudi arabia just to name a few. but there are far better geo-political reasons to invade iraq at this point in time, the reasons of which can be explained at length.
Totally agree with you :thumbsup
Storythree
09-22-2004, 07:54 PM
Whoever supports this war should be forced to watch the american beheading that just happened. Absolutly sickening. A kid here at school got it on the net. I couldnt sleep, it was absolutly god awful. The poor man was alive till the very end. All the war supporters should watch this just to see how "good" this war is going....
i bet civil war or independence war pictures would have been really disgusting too. Or how about WWII? So were those all "bad" wars too? Wars are always BAD! But sometimes you have to fight them. The pictures will always be sickening and disgusting.
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