LOST (the tv show)

[41ravens]

Don't know if this has been discussed, but has anyone been to the www.dharmaindustries.com site lately? I just went and it looks like they changed it up a bit. Something to do I guess.

[Talula62]

How is it different? I still can't get in.

[41ravens]

When I went, it said Access Granted and took me to a little prompt screen where the ole' >: popped up. Some things came up, and then it allowed me to type. So naturally, I typed in our favorite numbers and it said system initialized. And then it asked for a login ID and that's where I got stuck.

Edit: Weird. I just went back and got denied. Hmmm...

[JimiThang1]

That site is a fake...it isn't an official Lost site.

[dmb41er]

hey never got a chance to post after this past episode and i dont want to read back through all the pages

just wanted to check to see if people realized that it was Jack's wife to be that killed Shannons father in the car accident

[JimiThang1]

just wanted to check to see if people realized that it was Jack's wife to be that killed Shannons father in the car accident
The was figured out the first episode of the season when his wife was brought into the ER and Jack made a choice to save her and not the other guy on the table. They referred to him as "Rutherford" and of course it was deduced that that was how Shannon's dad died.

[junior94]

Ya know all this talk keeps going on about how "Jack chose to save the girl over Shannon's father" and everything - I thought I remembered it that didn't doctors/nurses say pretty much when Jack arrived that that guy pretty much had no chance to live as soon as he was wheeled in? So I never looked at it as being a questionable move by Jack at all, you go with the patient that's got the best odds on to survive.

[Tak_a_Tak]

Ya know all this talk keeps going on about how "Jack chose to save the girl over Shannon's father" and everything - I thought I remembered it that didn't doctors/nurses say pretty much when Jack arrived that that guy pretty much had no chance to live as soon as he was wheeled in? So I never looked at it as being a questionable move by Jack at all, you go with the patient that's got the best odds on to survive.

hmmm......good point. I didn't even think about that.

[JimiThang1]

Ya know all this talk keeps going on about how "Jack chose to save the girl over Shannon's father" and everything - I thought I remembered it that didn't doctors/nurses say pretty much when Jack arrived that that guy pretty much had no chance to live as soon as he was wheeled in? So I never looked at it as being a questionable move by Jack at all, you go with the patient that's got the best odds on to survive.
Oh yea i know...he went with the best odds. There was no point wasting time on a lost cause...

[@drian]

Seriously? Just because her step mom is a bigger bitch than she is doesn't negate the fact that she's still a bitch. ;)


i dont agree with that at all, i think learning her backstory helped me understand why shannon is such a bitch, b4 her dad died, and her step mom screwed her out of what was rightfuly hers, she seemed like a pretty nice kid to me....

[flyer3468]

Ya know all this talk keeps going on about how "Jack chose to save the girl over Shannon's father" and everything - I thought I remembered it that didn't doctors/nurses say pretty much when Jack arrived that that guy pretty much had no chance to live as soon as he was wheeled in? So I never looked at it as being a questionable move by Jack at all, you go with the patient that's got the best odds on to survive.

They said that in this episode to Shannon and her mother, but in the first episode, Jack did have time. They only said it in this one to comfort his family and not say, "hey, uh, the doctor could've have saved your father, but he kinda thought somebody else was more important"

[smeritt]

i dont agree with that at all, i think learning her backstory helped me understand why shannon is such a bitch, b4 her dad died, and her step mom screwed her out of what was rightfuly hers, she seemed like a pretty nice kid to me....plus she was listening to dave

[mr.MikeD]

i'm highly dissapointed that AL is alive/still on the show. her character is ridiculous, and she's an absolutely terrible actor.

[Beefsteak1138]

plus she was listening to dave
plus she has nice boobies.

[41ravens]

i'm highly dissapointed that AL is alive/still on the show. her character is ridiculous, and she's an absolutely terrible actor.

Amen to that. I am not a fan of her character. I don't know why. It almost seems like she's trying too hard to be a badass. She can die next.

[JimiThang1]

plus she has nice boobies.
Biscuits! :twak

[junior94]

plus she has nice boobies.

She's got a nice everything. mmmmm..... :rolleyes

:evil

[junior94]

They said that in this episode to Shannon and her mother, but in the first episode, Jack did have time.

hmmm... you sure about that? I really thought I remembered in the premiere them saying in that scene that the dad was pretty much a goner when Jack arrived in the trauma room.

[Beefsteak1138]

Biscuits! :twak
Love muffins.

[Dave G]

There is an amusing recap of last weeks show on TVgasm. EdHill cracks me up :)
TVgasm (http://www.tvgasm.com/archives/lost/)

[smeritt]

"Pretty soon Ana Lucia will learn the reason why you do not under any circumstances piss of the Iraqi torture expert. " I love it

[Dave G]

"In the woods Libby steps on a branch and everyone stops terrified. When Sawyer falls down again, Ana Lucia tells everyone to shut up. Michael then finally decides to ask the question I have been asking for a month now. “What happened to you people?” He also demands to know why they have to keep quiet. Nice to know that he waits a few days to come around to this question. Ana Lucia finally stops, and through gritted teeth (this chick needs to seriously relax) simply says that they took 3 of us the first time we got here. Then 3 weeks alter took 9 more. They are smart and they are animals. And that’s it. That’s the extent of her “explanation”. Now if it was me I’d follow that up with “So what are they? People? Why do they have children? Are they other survivors? How did they get here? What kind of clothes are they wearing? Do they speak?” But no. Of course not. This show doesn’t give you easy answers. And since she is talking to Michael he simply falls back on the only subject he knows anything about. His awful parenting skills. “They took my son.” Is his only reaction. Yeah yeah, we know. First clue was the 3 thousand times you screamed Walt into our ears"
:lol

[asmjm39]

A friend of mine found this

http://www.thehansofoundation.org/lep.html

isnt experiment 626 Stitch from Lilo and Stitch?

so the secret monster of the island is Stitch??????

Disney-cross marketing at its greatest

[JimiThang1]

Exp. 626...Genius...

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

Funny...here is an IM conversation that my friend had with my away message last wednesday after lost:


*** Auto-response sent to Joe: How do i focus on the Antebelum South after that episode of lost??

Joe: good question

Joe: thay should ban school after lost days

Joe: now there is a proposition that will pass

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

A friend of mine found this

http://www.thehansofoundation.org/lep.html

isnt experiment 626 Stitch from Lilo and Stitch?

so the secret monster of the island is Stitch??????

Disney-cross marketing at its greatest
Isn't Zanzibar the restaurant JB talks about getting food from in "Hard Fucking" by Tenacious D???

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

Just showed the good Doctor Jack chillin in a booth pimpin the Eagles jersey on MNF.

[kas141]

OK - I just watched last weeks episode again after checking out some other boards. Did anyone notice the guy standing in the background during Shannon's flashback where she's talking to her friend after the dance class (she says, "Au pair, my ass"). If you have it tivo'ed, take a look at it. I swear to god the guy in the background is ethan. The way the scene is shot seems very deliberate, he is very obvious but blurry and leaning over the ledge so you can't really make out his face. Anyone notice this?? Thoughts??

(i only backread about 7 pages, so sorry if this is being repeated!)

[Talula62]

Yeahhhhhh if you could go ahead and get a screencap of that ASAP, that would be greaaaat. Mmmkay? :)

[Dave G]

It could be Ethan I suppose, they do seem to have him framed by the column and he doesn't move through the whole scene

[junior94]

Yeahhhhhh if you could go ahead and get a screencap of that ASAP, that would be greaaaat. Mmmkay? :)

:lol :lol


'atta girl, Alli ;)

[JimiThang1]

Listening to the new episode that was just official podcast from the producers of the show and Damon and Carlton both confirm that Ana Lucia was the one and only shooter that killed Shannon and no one else...so I guess we can put that theory to rest.

[Talula62]

But it's so much fun to try to explain it not being AL. They finally give us an answer to a question and I'm totally bitching. :lol

I can't watch the ep until Saturday cuz I'll be out of the country. I'll expect y'all to have fully figured out a mystery by the time I return. Ready go!

[Beefsteak1138]

Nanobots.

[Talula62]

Okay, well then. Thank you Sean. Everyone can take the rest of the week off. :lol

[Beefsteak1138]

oooooh....scratch the nanobot theory. She wasn't shot, she was stabbed by THIS GUY. (http://toychest.diamondcomics.com/toys/02_03/edward-scissorhands.jpg)

[JimiThang1]

They also said that:
Jack and Kate are gonna hook up and Sawyer and Ana Lucia will be involved as well in some sort of quadrangle.
But they have been talking that shit up since the last episode last season...so it's not really a spoiler. But I made a button anyways.

[Talula62]

I used to hear these weird rumors about Claire and Sawyer hooking up.

[JimiThang1]

I used to hear these weird rumors about Claire and Sawyer hooking up.
Oh please...Charlie has that girl in the palm of his hands. :hump

[Talula62]

I dunno. She was pretty annoyed with him last week. He's gonna push her away.

[JimiThang1]

I dunno. She was pretty annoyed with him last week. He's gonna push her away.
Well duh he's gonna relapse pretty soon...I smell a tropical intervention!

[smeritt]

Isn't Zanzibar the restaurant JB talks about getting food from in "Hard Fucking" by Tenacious D???Im not gonna cook but ill order it from ZANZIBARRRRRR
you are correct sir

[flyer3468]

Im not gonna cook but ill order it from ZANZIBARRRRRR
you are correct sir

I've got the old man's car




I've got a jazz guitar






I've got a tab at Zanzibar






Tonight that's where I'll be




I'll be

[kas141]

It could be Ethan I suppose, they do seem to have him framed by the column and he doesn't move through the whole scene

Thanks for the screencap, my tivo isn't hooked up to my computer.

[Dave G]

Thanks for the screencap, my tivo isn't hooked up to my computer.
No problem,
I don't have tivo unfortunately, I just grabbed it from a torrent on mininova and capture it using Sonic Cine player.

[smeritt]

I've got the old man's car




I've got a jazz guitar






I've got a tab at Zanzibar






Tonight that's where I'll be




I'll bewhat are the odds two seans would be singing to eachother?

[Beefsteak1138]

what are the odds two seans would be singing to eachother?
Hey, I wanna join in.

[Route_2]

On the commercial for tonight's episode it says "extended episode"..........is this a two hour show....or less commercials........does anyone know?

[JimiThang1]

On the commercial for tonight's episode it says "extended episode"..........is this a two hour show....or less commercials........does anyone know?
Less commercials and extended 5 minutes...show ends at 10:05 tonight.

[Beefsteak1138]

Less commercials and extended 5 minutes...show ends at 10:05 tonight.
5 minutes?? What a rip-off.

[tdowe99]

Fewer commercials is cool, but only five more minutes?
Oh well, it'll be cool to see the other survivors' time on the island.

[smeritt]

I didnt realize there were so many seans in one thread

[Beefsteak1138]

I didnt realize there were so many seans in one thread
And then there's this joker:

http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/member.php?u=20054
and
http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/member.php?u=4741

[ur-a-dush]

i know this is goin back far but, when ethan took claire, what did he do to her?

[Beefsteak1138]

i know this is goin back far but, when ethan took claire, what did he do to her?
:hump

[dmb41er]

there was a good article in USA Today talking to Michele Rodrigez and shes pretty pissed off at the Lost producers lol

[dmb41er]

heres the article...

http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2005-11-15-lost_x.htm

"I was pissed off," admits Rodriguez "I just signed on to the show, and everybody's going to hate me!"

[angelces]

heres the article...

http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2005-11-15-lost_x.htm

"I was pissed off," admits Rodriguez "I just signed on to the show, and everybody's going to hate me!"
oh how right she was. :lol i love her though

[Bartender84]

5 minutes?? What a rip-off.
I don't see how that's a "rip-off". I'll wait until I know how long the actual episode is before I make that judgement, for all we know it could be 10 or 15 extra minutes due to the less commercials

[UCFish]

The stuffed bear...interesting

[skywalker_009]

so much for the theory about (it think its cindy) being a plant for the others...

[ryguy178]

Bitchface almost makes this impossible to watch.


And this is like the B-team of Lost actors.

[kelme]

can someone fill me in on tonights episode? i know it's the history of the tail section passengers, but what happened?

[UCFish]

Next week looks good. Glad they did not drag out their story over more than one episode.

[ryguy178]

can someone fill me in on tonights episode? i know it's the history of the tail section passengers, but what happened?
Everything. Just watch it.

[ryguy178]

Oh...line of the night....

"Nathan wasn't a good person. That's why he wasn't on the list."

[smeritt]

are you sure he said wasnt?

[ryguy178]

are you sure he said wasnt?
Yes. Meaning good people were on the list.

[JimiThang1]

That was good times...at least Ana Lucia has a reason for being a bitch.

[smeritt]

Yes. Meaning good people were on the list.Thats why they left the doctor, the old married guy and Eko seems pretty religious

[BrahmaBull]

That was good times...at least Ana Lucia has a reason for being a bitch.

I still dont like her... :lol

[crashintosabine]

That was a shitty ending. :shrug

[UCFish]

Thats why they left the doctor, the old married guy and Eko seems pretty religious

?

They tried to take Eko and he beat the shit out of them

[smeritt]

?

They tried to take Eko and he beat the shit out of themYea i thought about that after I typed it. But what about the doctor and the old married guy? And based one what you guys are saying, are The Others part of the experiement and trying to save "good" people

[snapmcd]

Next week looks good. Glad they did not drag out their story over more than one episode.

I couldn't agree more. When they started with the "Day 1" screen, I was worried.

[UCFish]

I thought they meant "good" as strong. Don't know about the kids though. They said they took the men the first time.

[UCFish]

I couldn't agree more. When they started with the "Day 1" screen, I was worried.

Yeah lucky after half an hour we were around day 17.

[smeritt]

Exactly what I'm confused about. If theyre only looking for strong men then why go after children, who can only hinder efforts and why steal Cindy(thats her name right?)?

[JimiThang1]

What did Mr. Eko say to Ana when she started breaking down? It was hard to make out what he said to her...

[smeritt]

What did Mr. Eko say to Ana when she started breaking down? It was hard to make out what he said to her..."You've waited 40 days to cry"

[UCFish]

Something is special about the children and I am guessing that is why they took Walt. Why and if they took Cindy in the last episode I have no idea.

[JimiThang1]

"You've waited 40 days to cry"
Ah thank you...

[ryguy178]

Ecko = Moses.

He will deliver them to the promised land.

"Let my people gooooo!"

[smeritt]

Eko is a pimp. If anyone doesn't like him I'm going to fight you

[BrahmaBull]

Thats why they left the doctor, the old married guy and Eko seems pretty religious
they tried to take Eko..he killed two of them so they probably have decided against taking him

[JimiThang1]

Ecko = Moses.

He will deliver them to the promised land.

"Let my people gooooo!"
So what does that make Locke?

[ryguy178]

So what does that make Locke?
God.

[smeritt]

they tried to take Eko..he killed two of them so they probably have now decided against taking himI corrected myself. On other news I almost thought that the others spy was going to turn into Locke with his " But what if they arent attacking us" schpele but then I realized he was just a little bitch

[JimiThang1]

God.
Haha nice...Though he could be Jesus, because he has questioned his faith just as Jesus did. It would be interesting if Locke is sacrificed to "forgive" the sins of the others.

[BrahmaBull]

I miss Kate.

[smeritt]

Haha nice...Though he could be Jesus, because he has questioned his faith just as Jesus did. It would be interesting if Locke is sacrificed to "forgive" the sins of the others.Based on the people of this site ,you may have just come up with an amazing Lost Theory

[ryguy178]

Derek thats interesting. But I didnt the producers say it wasn't religious or something?


And what do we all make of the Glass Eye? Bibles?

First reference to the US army with the knife.

[smeritt]

Derek thats interesting. But I didnt the producers say it wasn't religious or something?


And what do we all make of the Glass Eye? Bibles?

First reference to the US army with the knife.
Belonged to the Others spy(I already forgot his name). He said he was peace core or whatever. The real question is why would the U.S army have people on the island?

[flyer3468]

Belonged to the Others spy(I already forgot his name). He said he was peace core or whatever. The real question is why would the U.S army have people on the island?

It seemed he didn't know about the bunker though. Plus, don't you think he would live with the rest of 'The Others' and not by himself in there.

[ryguy178]

Belonged to the Others spy(I already forgot his name). He said he was peace core or whatever. The real question is why would the U.S army have people on the island?
The Knife was in the pocket of one of the ones Ecko killed. And Goodwin obviously wasn't really in the Peace Corps, seeing as how he is an Other.


Unless the Others are the Peace Corps

[kelme]

Everything. Just watch it.

:( i don't have tivo and i missed it. anyone?

[JimiThang1]

Derek thats interesting. But I didnt the producers say it wasn't religious or something?
And what do we all make of the Glass Eye? Bibles?

I don't remember them saying anything about Locke not being religious...they have definately stated several times he is a man of faith.

I'm thinking maybe the glass eye and bible might belong to the downed plane that killed Boone...they were dressed as priests.

[flyer3468]

Unless the Others are the Peace Corps

Which at this point could actually make sense. The whole idea of saving the good ones.

[JimiThang1]

Unless the Others are the Peace Corps
JFK would be rolling in his grave if that were the case...

[smeritt]

It seemed he didn't know about the bunker though. Plus, don't you think he would live with the rest of 'The Others' and not by himself in there.He was living with The Others but when the old guy started screaming he had to save his ass.

[flyer3468]

He was living with The Others but when the old guy started screaming he had to save his ass.

But the others weren't in the bunker when they got there. And by the looks of the door, it hadn't been opened in a while, so I would say that the things in the bunker aren't his.

[ryguy178]

Jin & Eko saw Goodwin's body in the jungle earlier in the season and Jin asked, "other"? and Eko nodded.

[JimiThang1]

Jin & Eko saw Goodwin's body in the jungle earlier in the season and Jin asked, "other"? and Eko nodded.
Damn...if we only believed that crazy Korean...we would have known all about tonights ep.

[smeritt]

But the others weren't in the bunker when they got there. And by the looks of the door, it hadn't been opened in a while, so I would say that the things in the bunker aren't his.Sorry I just didn't understand the point that was trying to be made. I got you now. So which of you insane theory people believed Shannon was stabbed or something else miscelleanous. Come one be men and admit it.

[ryguy178]

So what if the Others are sending the "Good people" they are taking off the island.

[flyer3468]

So what if the Others are sending the "Good people" they are taking off the island.

Walt is still on the island.

[smeritt]

what do u mean by sending?

[smeritt]

How about this theory. Did anyone else notice how Walt is always wet? This could have something to do with the the rope Sayid found that leads to the ocean which I am assuming leads to an underwater station. The underwater station is where The Others live and is why it was so easy for them to steal the 'Talies' from the beach location. Also remember the Shark with the Dharma symbol on it? Clearly the the institution is in control of the ocean. Therefore the possibility of an underwater station is likely.

[flyer3468]

How about this theory. Did anyone else notice how Walt is always wet? This could have something to do with the the rope Sayid found that leads to the ocean which I am assuming leads to an underwater station. The underwater station is where The Others live and is why it was so easy for them to steal the 'Talies' from the beach location. Also remember the Shark with the Dharma symbol on it? Clearly the the institution is in control of the ocean. Therefore the possibility of an underwater station is likely.

Or just to show that the raft is no more and everyone got wet.

[smeritt]

Or just to show that the raft is no more and everyone got wet.Stop being logical

[flyer3468]

Stop being logical

Logic: The end of all great ideas.

[smeritt]

Logic: The end of all great ideas.Haha basically

[ryguy178]

the rope Sayid found that leads to the ocean which I am assuming leads to an underwater station.

This has bothered me since the very first day the cables were found. And if it isn't investigated, then its one of the biggest flaws in the entire show. It clearly led into the water, yet not one mention has been made on where and what it leads to.

[smeritt]

This has bothered me since the very first day the cables were found. And if it isn't investigated, then its one of the biggest flaws in the entire show. It clearly led into the water, yet not one mention has been made on where and what it leads to.Hence the reason i brought it up sir

[dmb41er]

It would be interesting if Locke is sacrificed to "forgive" the sins of the others.

sshhh... we will not speak of such things

[dmb41er]

I miss Kate.

If there has been anything that makes sense in this show so far it is that a couple weeks without Kate is just cruel.

[junior94]

Jin & Eko saw Goodwin's body in the jungle earlier in the season and Jin asked, "other"? and Eko nodded.

Well when that scene originally played out, I thought Jin as said "Others?", as in plural, and when Eko nodded, I took that to imply that Jin was asking if the Others had killed this person they're passing (Goodwin), and Eko answered yes by nodding.

But that's just me. :cool

[flyer3468]

Well when that scene originally played out, I thought Jin as said "Others?", as in plural, and when Eko nodded, I took that to imply that Jin was asking if the Others had killed this person they're passing (Goodwin), and Eko answered yes by nodding.

But that's just me. :cool

Same here

[junior94]

This has bothered me since the very first day the cables were found. And if it isn't investigated, then its one of the biggest flaws in the entire show. It clearly led into the water, yet not one mention has been made on where and what it leads to.

I agree :thumbsup That's been kinda on my nerves even well before the 1st season ended.


Well, though if I'm gonna talk about something that's always been on my nerves with this show, I forget if I've talked about it before or not..... but it's the very basic and simple concept that nobody during the first few weeks on the island took it upon themselves to just walk as far and as much of the outling border of the whole thing is possible!!! :BANG That's one thing that always bugged me about the "revelation of finding other survivors on the other side of the island." Now granted, I've never been a plane crash survivor and stranded on a strange island so I can't predict my behavior in such a case to total certainty, BUT, if I was there, once everything started to calm down over just the first couple days after the crash, I would've really started to wonder what the hell else was there! And ok, so there's a strange noise coming from within the jungle, like some giant monster that could kill me? Fine! So like I said, stay as far out onto the beach border as possible, and just walk that path as far as it can possibly take you! Just for discovery's sake. Nobody ever did that! Sure, I suppose that was Sayid's kind of intent when he retreated after the Sawyer torture incident, that had he not found that line incoming from the ocean that he might've just intended to keep walking the outline of the island, but..... still doesn't satisfy me.

[ryguy178]

I don't think we have a good enough concept of how large the island is supposed to be.

[junior94]

I don't think we have a good enough concept of how large the island is supposed to be.

I've been guessing for awhile now that perhaps it's got a radius of at least a good 10 miles, and now tonight we got more info on that, since where they were when the prisoner ditch was, that was pretty far inland inside the jungle (I'm assuming) and Eko said the beach was about 5 miles away from there.

I'd say at the very VERY least it's 7 miles across, but even more likely over 10.

[skywalker_009]

This has bothered me since the very first day the cables were found. And if it isn't investigated, then its one of the biggest flaws in the entire show. It clearly led into the water, yet not one mention has been made on where and what it leads to.

something ive thought of recently... you think its possible that sayid actually did go look at where the cable was, but we just havent seen that yet... i seriously doubt it, but these people do have a habit of keeping things they find to themselves... possibly sayid found something there and just doesnt want to tell anyone... again, i dont really think that this is the case, just something to came to mind recently...

[@drian]

being from canada myself... i think its quite funny that so far both nate and ethan have claimed they are from canada... ethan ROM said he was from ontario canada and his last name... Royal Ontario Museum

i know, its silly, but oh well

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

Random responses to posts in the last 2 pages:
-Sayid followed the rope on the beach INLAND and found crazy french bitch.
-The radius of a circle is 1/2 of the width across...diameter is the whole thing. ;)
-I think the others have some sort of kid fetish, hence the taking of the kids, and someone is telling them (a cultish type leader) which adults to take.
-Someone said the others live in the water and that's why it was easy to kidnapp people from the beach. I believe they live in the jungle, and i thought it was pretty obvious that when they took the 9 people they carried them towards the jungle, not the water. Also they always hear the "voices" out in the jungle.

Overall i thought this episode was sub-par. Next week will be giggity giggity though.

[ryguy178]

-Sayid followed the rope on the beach INLAND and found crazy french bitch.


Yeah. But what was on the other end?

[@drian]

Yeah. But what was on the other end?

some sort of under water power producing unit

[Dave G]

We had a transformer blow down the street at around 5:30 last night and lost our power until around 1:00 this morning :violent
We ended up watching the show on a battery operated b&W tv with about a 4 inch screen
Needless to say I missed quite a bit of last nights show, especially the night scenes :rolleyes
Thank God for bittorrent

[snapmcd]

I don't think we have a good enough concept of how large the island is supposed to be.

Agreed. A legitimate question for the geography buffs: I know the South Pacific is littered with islands. So how big is the largest, uninhabited island? Sounds like a good Google Earth question.

[Beefsteak1138]

Thank God we had those extra five minutes.

[tdowe99]

JFK would be rolling in his grave if that were the case...
Dude, JFK is the leader of The Others. </conspiracy> ;)

[angelces]

i know i'm in the minority but i like AL. I think we'll all come around as they layer her story and see she's not a complete raging bitch. and personally if i were constantly on guard from being abducted by mysterious whispering people all the time I'd be a little hostile as well.

obviously this last hour and 5 minutes wasn't as intense as some of the eps from last season but it needed to be done so that we have enough information to move forward.

[junior94]

A few things...


Goddamnit! I know that diameter is the full length between the two sides of a circle, I don't know why I had that temporary brainfart and said radius. Nevertheless, thanks to UAY DMB - or however the hell you say that screen name of yours :p

Listening -- as always -- to Preston & Steve's morning roundtable discussion on the ep (WMMR's morning radio show in Philadelpia, & available by podcast at their website), just a joking comment that was IM'd into them that I thought was funny, referencing the kidnapping of the kids: that a 3rd bunker/hatch will be found, and it will contain a passageway to Neverland Ranch :lol :lol

And finally, here's the biggie. I'm a little surprised that nobody's referenced this here yet, but oh well. Someone emailed this info into AintItCoolNews.com yesterday apparently, he visited the site "dharmainitiative.com (http://www.dharmainitiative.com/)", their interface had completely changed, and so he "checked the source of the webpage", as he put it. Now, the important thing is DO NOT ACTUALLY GO TO THIS WEBSITE. SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE REPORTED THAT DOING SO LOADS AT LEAST 1 TROJAN HORSE ONTO YOUR COMPUTER, APPARENTLY EVEN IF YOU HAVE ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE (though it can be successfully removed, just after a lot of annoying work). THEY COULD BE BS'ING, BUT IT'S BEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE SO FAR, AND FRANKLY WITH THE TROUBLE I'VE HAD WITH COMPUTER PROBLEMS OVER THE LAST YEAR, I'M NOT WILLING TO TEST IT TO FIND OUT. Plus, another possible incentive for you to not actually go there is that I'm going to simply paste the text of what is there to read here in this post, just as they did in the AICN article. So, like I said, the reader said he "checked the source for the webpage and the following is what he saw". Mind you, I'm sure this has no real basis in fact in terms of the show's truthful mythology, but I'm still posting it because I think it's a very interesting read (if not written too professionally at all). Anyway here's what's there:




Phase 3 Disclosure: The Dharma Initiative is not a secret international research project. You see, the island is part of another "dimension", I guess you'd call it, and is sort of "in between" the universes that are made of light matter and dark matter. We call it "Dharma". It's part of a whole planet that is pretty much available for colonization. It could also be used as a future conduit for inter-dimensional/intergalactic travel. The only problem is that we can't exist there naturally. The island only materializes when there's a solar eclipse. During that time the unique electromagnetic frequency added to the gravitational distortion allows both it and us to exist within the same space. But that "effect only lasts for 108 minutes, and then the island disappears from our world, taking any inanimate matter with it that's left behind.

If you were standing on the island after the primary eclipse period ended and the 108 minutes were up, you'd feel a great big suck of air and then "PLOP!" you'd fall right back into the ocean. Naked.

We are trying to change that. Actually, Majestic 13 developed a machine years ago that allows us to exist there. It's weird, but once us and the island "disappear" into the Dharma dimension, we have days and nights just like the earth one. But we can't travel more than 42 kilometers outside the machine's effective range.

The plan is to develop a way to genetically engineer animals with the right quantum frequency so they can exist in Dharma on their own. That's what the project is all about, and until now it's been classified. The fictional tv series "Lost" is part of the worldwide disclosure plan.


Now I'd say that I'd still be kinda dissapointed if the grand answer behind this mentions anything to do with an alternate dimension, that and/or "some secret governemt/military project". But again, I think that's a quite interesting theory on its own, I just don't believe it has anything ultimately to do with the show.

Oh and also on a sidenot, having to do partly with that USA Today article that was posted regarind the interview with Michelle Rodriguez -- I'm reading (not necessarily here) where a lot of people are saying about Ana Lucia being a cop or some variation in her past, and that will be revealed in her flashback (maybe even having crossed paths with our favorite hot fugitive, Kate), and my biggest problem with that is, it was in that article where it said that AL's past vocation will be one that will surprise everyone, that it's not what you'd expect it to be. So that tells me it's nothing to do with law enforcement. Just thought I'd mention...

[Beefsteak1138]

A few things...

I thought it was established already that dharmainitiative.com is not officially affliated w/ the show...i.e. its a fan-boy site.

[junior94]

I thought it was established already that dharmainitiative.com is not officially affliated w/ the show...i.e. its a fan-boy site.

That sounds vaguely familiar, I think you may be right. But I only really posted that segment because I thought it was a curiously fun little story (though, as I sorta briefly pointed out, the guy might've had a better chance at maybe making it a bit more believable if he didn't write it in an almost short story-like style, but rather a more straightforward, sort of press release-like one).

[flyer3468]

I thought it was established already that dharmainitiative.com is not officially affliated w/ the show...i.e. its a fan-boy site.

Hansofoundation is official but DharmaInitiative is fake I believe.

[Dave G]

So which of you insane theory people believed Shannon was stabbed or something else miscelleanous. Come one be men and admit it.

“Raises hand”
I’m guess I’m guilty of thinking that the writers would bump off a major character with a little more of a twist than something you could see coming a mile away. And if your keeping score, I also thought that Mr Eko was from the drug plane which seems to be wrong also
I’ll try to do better in the future :)

It may be nothing, but when Bernard asked Mr Eko if he had seen any African American women in the water he replied “no”, which seems odd because the first body he took out was a black woman

[dmbsatx]

I think he was asking about "bodies" that Eko had pulled out of the water. The African-American woman that he helped from the water was still alive.

[drumdude05]

I just caught the past couple episodes and I got hooked. Where do I go for the backstory?

[angelces]

buy, rent or download season 1.

[SatelliteEyes]

I just caught the past couple episodes and I got hooked. Where do I go for the backstory?

your local video store to rent the first season would be a good start...then head over to iTunes where all the 2nd season episdodes are for sale for 1.99 each. There are other places where you could get it free but Im not technilogically advanced enough to tell you where or how.

Or maybe read this thread from the beginning....

[drumdude05]

Or maybe read this thread from the beginning....

Haha now that would be a task.

[junior94]

Yet another thing I'm stealing from the Preston & Steve show (comment posted on their site, actually):

I hadn't noticed this myself, and I don't have the episode to go back and see for myself, but the guy writing in seemed pretty damn sure that in that orientation film from the hatch that Jack and Locke watched, it said the Dharma Initiative was the brainchild of Gerald & Karen GOODWIN.


dun dun duuuuunnn!!! :D

[jguinan101]

so did anyone notice that it was boone on the radio in the plain when A.L. and company finally got an answer on their radio, not that its of much importance just didnt see that mentioned, and damn if those extra 5 minutes of stuf ive already seen didnt piss me off, im pretty pissed that A.L. took out shannon, she owes us one extensive girl on girl scene with kate (her past occupation was a slutty lesbian stripper, that would unexpected right?)

[smeritt]

So I was talking to my friend today in class and she revealed something to me, seeing as I never caught the fist season. Apparently Hurleys father who was in the military had heard the nubmers coming from the island. Those numbers were the ones that one hurley the lottery and are being used for whatever. So perhaps Hurleys father is on the island with some military folk which would explain the knife.

[flyer3468]

So I was talking to my friend today in class and she revealed something to me, seeing as I never caught the fist season. Apparently Hurleys father who was in the military had heard the nubmers coming from the island. Those numbers were the ones that one hurley the lottery and are being used for whatever. So perhaps Hurleys father is on the island with some military folk which would explain the knife.

Didn't Hurley get the numbers from the guy in the mental hospital? I don't remember anything about his dad.

[jguinan101]

Yet another thing I'm stealing from the Preston & Steve show (comment posted on their site, actually):

I hadn't noticed this myself, and I don't have the episode to go back and see for myself, but the guy writing in seemed pretty damn sure that in that orientation film from the hatch that Jack and Locke watched, it said the Dharma Initiative was the brainchild of Gerald & Karen GOODWIN.


dun dun duuuuunnn!!! :D


wow that is pretty interesting i think, something else i just thought of, is everyone assuming that the crazy australian guy from the bunker that just took off is still running around the island somewhere, i mean where the hell else would he go, would love to see more of him

[smeritt]

Didn't Hurley get the numbers from the guy in the mental hospital? I don't remember anything about his dad.I didnt see the first season but thats what my friend claims is that his father who was in the military had heard the numbers by some island. Don't be mad if I'm wrong.

[angelces]

Yet another thing I'm stealing from the Preston & Steve show (comment posted on their site, actually):

I hadn't noticed this myself, and I don't have the episode to go back and see for myself, but the guy writing in seemed pretty damn sure that in that orientation film from the hatch that Jack and Locke watched, it said the Dharma Initiative was the brainchild of Gerald & Karen GOODWIN.


dun dun duuuuunnn!!! :D
NO SHIT!

damn.

[smeritt]

wow that is pretty interesting i think, something else i just thought of, is everyone assuming that the crazy australian guy from the bunker that just took off is still running around the island somewhere, i mean where the hell else would he go, would love to see more of himPerhaps he has joined forces with the Others or maybe he found the underwater hatch. Or maybe his crazy ass just started swimming. We may neverk now

[skywalker_009]

We may neverk now

oh we will... dont doubt that...

[junior94]

Didn't Hurley get the numbers from the guy in the mental hospital? I don't remember anything about his dad.

There may have been a mention of Hurley's father in his flashback ep last year, I can't recall, but his dad's got nothing to do with the numbers. When Hurley spent some time in a mental hospital in the past (we still don't know for what) he met a fellow patient (Howard, was it?) that was always repeating the #'s incessantly. After Hurley was out, when he decided 'as a lark' to play the lottery one day, those #'s just popped into his head and he used them (no wonder, after hearing them no doubt thousands of times), and that's what won him the lottery. Hurley later went back to Howard as a hospital visitor during his string of bad luck to ask where Howard originally got the #s from himself. Howard revealed he used to work in Australia (I think for the Army, but not sure 100%) and his task was with a guy named Sam Toomey, they monitored radio transmissions from the South Pacific, and it was during those sessions that they heard a voice repeating the #'s over and over again.

And sidenote - as we also learned in Hurley's flashback last year, Sam Toomey also used those #'s for a contest, won, and his "luck" started turning bad, too. He eventually killed himself.

[smeritt]

There may have been a mention of Hurley's father in his flashback ep last year, I can't recall, but his dad's got nothing to do with the numbers. When Hurley spent some time in a mental hospital in the past (we still don't know for what) he met a fellow patient (Howard, was it?) that was always repeating the #'s incessantly. After Hurley was out, when he decided 'as a lark' to play the lottery one day, those #'s just popped into his head and he used them (no wonder, after hearing them no doubt thousands of times), and that's what won him the lottery. Hurley later went back to Howard as a hospital visitor during his string of bad luck to ask where Howard originally got the #s from himself. Howard revealed he used to work in Australia (I think for the Army, but not sure 100%) and his task was with a guy named Sam Toomey, they monitored radio transmissions from the South Pacific, and it was during those sessions that they heard a voice repeating the #'s over and over again.

And sidenote - as we also learned in Hurley's flashback last year, Sam Toomey also used those #'s for a contest, won, and his "luck" started turning bad, too. He eventually killed himself.Maybe I was mistaking what she said but she definitely mentioned the numbers and military have somethign to do with each other. Which might lead us to military personnel on the island .

[angelces]

i think it's brilliant that no one knows how big this damn island is. the others, the tailies, the main guys, the australian dude, the french woman, and who knows how many others all are on this island and they don't/didn't really interact with any other group.

[junior94]

speakin' of da numbahs...

http://www.4815162342.com/

[smeritt]

Well the tailies and the main section have no combined. We have a good 3 years before we find out this whole islands secrets

[kjzz12]

All I can say about this episode is: And then BAM!

P.S. The discussion about whether torture and starvation are justified in forcing info out of that one guy seems way too coincidental with the current political debate.

[skywalker_009]

All I can say about this episode is: And then BAM!

P.S. The discussion about whether torture and starvation are justified in forcing info out of that one guy seems way too coincidental with the current political debate.

i could be wrong... but im pretty sure they film these episodes a good time in advance... and im sure they wrote the script a long time ago, so, just coincidence... promise...

[junior94]

Going with the idea of their being an alternate dimension/time rift/etc (which again, I dont' think is the case) I heard this little side theory that I'll mention purely for the reason that I think it's kind of a cool idea:

The kids we see with the Tailies? That's Boone & Shannon (remember, those two were joined as kids when their respective parents married - Boone at 10; Shannon at 8), and the irony being that AL ends up killing Shannon, the very girl to whom she swore she'd get back to her mother, as she tried to comfort her right after the plane crash.


EDIT: over on AintItCool, where plenty of folks also hate Ana Lucia, she's now being lovingly referred to as "AnaL" :p :lol

[smeritt]

Wow go to that numbers site. Holy shit they research there theories. Holy Shit

[junior94]

All I can say about this episode is: And then BAM!

P.S. The discussion about whether torture and starvation are justified in forcing info out of that one guy seems way too coincidental with the current political debate.

Well, based on what's implied by the preview, I'd say it's more about the irony of Sayid now being tortured tied to a tree, since he did the same thing to Sawyer (at least, that's how I took it - it looked like AL had him tied up and was questioning him maybe).

[Beefsteak1138]

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/eo/20051117/113226798000.html

[tdowe99]

I'm confused...


According to last week's episode, AnaL said that she only had one bullet in the gun. (Sawyer's gun) So she goes and shoots Shannon. Then in next week's preview.. she is seen shooting the gun again. Does it hit Sayid? Is it a different gun?

[Third Floor]

they did have an arsenal in the bunker

[tdowe99]

There's an arsenal in the Arrow bunker?
I thought the Arrow bunker was deserted, whereas the Swan bunker was stocked.

Not sure.

[angelces]

in response to tdowe99
maybe it's sayid's gun


i doubt they'd be like hi, welcome to our side of the beach, here's where we keep our guns.

[angelces]

There's an arsenal in the Arrow bunker?
I thought the Arrow bunker was deserted, whereas the Swan bunker was stocked.

Not sure.
i think he means the swan bunker. remember they're all one group now.

[BTCSkeets]

alot of cracking bones in this episode huh?


on a side note, the episode was "extended" all of 2 minutes. If you look on itunes, its running time is 46.5 minutes...there have been a few episodes before this one well over 45 minutes. its the longest ep so far but not by much

[neumdogg]

First off, I have a bone to pick with you, Damon. Last July, I asked you if a female character was getting killed this season on Lost, and you said — and I quote: "I think it would be fairly silly for us to kill a woman —*there are*only three or four of them on the show. And they're all really hot." So, I guess my question is, how can I ever trust you again?

Damon Lindelof: I never said we weren't going to kill a woman. I said it would be silly. And you know, Carlton and I are pretty silly guys. You should see the hat that he's wearing right now.
Carlton Cuse: That's all I'm wearing.
Damon: And also a sock, but that's another story.

Did it bug you that Maggie Grace's people leaked that tidbit about her possibly joining the cast of X-Men 3 over the summer? It was a pretty major tip-off that she might be leaving the show.

Carlton: There's no incentive for them to preserve the creative sanctity of Lost. You have an agency full of people whose job it is to get Maggie Grace other work. And how could we begrudge her that? We can't prevent her from going out and earning a livelihood, you know?
There's the perception that Maggie had to turn down X-Men 3 because of Lost.
Carlton: I don't think that was the circumstance. We would have been accommodating had she been offered that job.
Damon: Carlton and I would have bent over backwards to see if there was a way to make it work.
Why was Shannon marked for death?
Damon: It was by no means a result of Maggie's abilities as an actress, which, we felt were gaining ground every time we saw her on the screen. But Shannon is a 22- or 23-year-old character, and the flashback stories and limitations in terms of her life experience…. The younger the character is on the show, the more limited you are in terms of stories you can tell. So, before we started running Shannon into the ground and doing the same stories over and over again, it felt like it was a very natural time to kill [her] off. And the idea that was appealing to us, and certainly to Maggie, was that we would finally show Shannon in this different light. Make her incredibly sympathetic and then she would die.
Will Shannon be back, like, say, in one of Jack's flashbacks?
Carlton: It's always possible she could pop up in someone's backstory. But she is definitely dead. When a character dies on the island, they stay dead.
Are you concerned that Ana-Lucia is beyond redemption? I can't tell you how many e-mails I got from AA readers asking, "When is that bitch going to die?!" Actually, I can tell you: 124.
Carlton: At the beginning of last season, people didn't like Josh Holloway's character either. And by the end of the season, he was one of the most-liked characters on the show. It'll be really interesting to see, as we tell more about Ana-Lucia, whether that changes the audience's perception of her. We think it will.
Damon: In the same moment that we decided Shannon would die, [we also decided that] Ana-Lucia would be responsible for that death. It would be the first time one castaway was responsible for killing another, and it would give so much inherent conflict and trauma [heading to] the merge. We're walking a very tenuous tightrope with her, but we feel that over the course of the next two episodes the audience will hopefully get a better understanding for that character and what she's been through.
Can you confirm that Shannon was, in fact, shot? Fans have been speculating that she looked like she had a stab wound.
Carlton: She was shot.
Damon: People are getting a little too…
They're reaching a little too much?
Carlton: They totally are. And she did not have a Dharma Initiative stamp on her.
Let's talk about Malcolm David Kelley and Walt. Why was his role reduced this season? Were you concerned about him aging faster than the time line on the show?
Carlton: That's a legitimate issue. We've only gone 50 days on the island, and he's a kid in puberty. But Walt's disappearance and, ultimately, Michael's efforts to reunite with him were part of a grander plan. There are also financial considerations. Since Walt wasn't going to be around for a lot of episodes, we had to make an arrangement to have his role be a more reduced role.
Whether you use him once or twice a year or every week, the aging thing will still be an issue, no? Might you recast?
Damon: To answer that question is sort of to reveal what the plan is for Walt, and there is a plan. I always feel like recasting is the nuclear option. You do not do it unless it is absolutely, 100 percent necessary. But obviously, we have a story that we want to tell about Walt and about Michael and Walt.
Last week*Shannon and Sayid gave us our first big Lost sex scene….
Carlton: It was the second big sex scene. Boone and Shannon had sex together [last season]. So, if you have sex on the show, you're pretty much going to end*up dead.
So, who's having sex next?
Carlton: (Laughs) As we move into the middle run of episodes, we're definitely emphasizing the Jack-Kate-Sawyer romantic triangle. The level of sexual tension between those three characters is definitely being ramped up.
How will Ana-Lucia figure into it?
Damon: As the respective leaders of their respective units, Ana-Lucia and Jack have a great deal in common with each other, and that's definitely something we're going to be exploring. But [the fact that] Ana-Lucia inadvertently murdered one of the members of the tribe doesn't exactly [lend itself] to candlelight dinners and walks on the beach. She is a woman; she will have romantic entanglements. But I think the one that will begin to emerge over the season will be the one that you least expect.
What about Charlie and Claire?
Carlton: We're definitely going to be paying attention to their relationship, but it's not going to turn in ways the audience expects.
Will we get any clarification about the numbers this season?
Damon: Carlton might want to punch me for actually going on record and saying this, but I think that that question will never, ever be answered. I couldn't possibly imagine [how we would answer that question]. We will see more ramifications of the numbers and more usage of the numbers, but it boggles my mind when people ask me, "What do the numbers mean?"
Will we find out why Ethan abducted Claire?
Damon: Yes.
Carlton: You'll learn more about it this season.
Will Claire get some of her memory back?
Damon: The loss of her memory happened so long ago that it requires a sort of deft touch in order to reintroduce the concept. Once we start assuming that everybody is intimately familiar with everything that has ever happened on the island, I think the show risks becoming slightly confused. But all of that stuff is in play. It's just a matter of when and how we reactivate it.
Are you still planning to reveal why the plane crashed this season?
Carlton: Yes.
Are you*saving that little doozy for the finale?
Carlton: We're saving it until later. We consider that on the ground of fairly major revelations.
Damon: We don't want to stick that one in the middle of March.
ABC billed last week's episode as the one "everyone will be talking about." What'll be the next one "everyone will be talking about"?
Carlton: Ironically, it's the next episode [airing tonight]. We think for us, it's even more of a water-cooler episode than the death episode. This is really a very special episode in that it's kind of a concept episode. It deviates from the form and style of our other episodes.
On Nov. 30 we'll finally learn what Kate's precrash crime was that landed her in so much hot water. Any other big flashback revelations this season?
Damon: In the next string of episodes, one of the really compelling backstory elements is what happened to Jack's marriage. We think Julie Bowen is amazing and she and Matthew Fox are so great in scenes together, and I think the audience is really curious as to what went wrong there.
Carlton: And you should pay attention to Mr. Eko's stick.
Seriously?
Carlton: Yeah.
Damon: Keep your eyes on Mr. Eko's stick.
Carlton: That stick is an important ongoing clue.
Will we learn more about Monster this season?
Carlton: Definitely.
Damon: Absolutely.
Has Disney approached you about doing a Lost feature film?
Carlton: No.
And if they did, what would your response be?
Damon: I would punch them as hard as I could. We couldn't even begin to wrap our brains around how we would produce a feature film. Obviously, the production team in Hawaii is amazing, but the amount of time [it would require] to do a TV show and a feature on top of each other… I think it's safe to say it would be impossible.
Last question: Will there be another death this season?
Carlton: (Laughs) You're very good, Michael, but we can't say.

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

I'm reading (not necessarily here) where a lot of people are saying about Ana Lucia being a cop or some variation in her past, and that will be revealed in her flashback (maybe even having crossed paths with our favorite hot fugitive, Kate), and my biggest problem with that is, it was in that article where it said that AL's past vocation will be one that will surprise everyone, that it's not what you'd expect it to be. So that tells me it's nothing to do with law enforcement.
Ana Lucia used to be a man.

[BTCSkeets]

Ana Lucia used to be a man.


still is

[bmtoups]

Ana Lucia used to be a man.

:lol:lol

[flyer3468]

What is up with Mr. Eko's stick?

[skywalker_009]

What is up with Mr. Eko's stick?

thats what i was wondering... possibly what he was carving in it maybe :shrug... i really have no clue...

[JimiThang1]

What is up with Mr. Eko's stick?
It's magical! :lol

[skywalker_009]

oh and why are we calling him "Mr"...

[JimiThang1]

oh and why are we calling him "Mr"...
Cause that's his name...

[flyer3468]

Because Carlton says so

[skywalker_009]

Cause that's his name...

why not just Eko...

[Re1212]

The attached image goes with the thought that the people on the boat
are the people from the orientation film.

[MacGuyver]

that is f'n awesome!

[@drian]

The attached image goes with the thought that the people on the boat
are the people from the orientation film.

the bearded guy doesn't even loooook anything like the guy from the orientation film...

the one guy looks arab... and the one on the boat is this actor

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0301370/

if you scroll down to 'Notable TV Guest Appearances' you will see
"Lost" playing "Bearded Man" in episode: "Exodus: Part 2"

[smeritt]

You know what I just realized? Walt and the little girl from the tailies have the same bear. The bear we see when Michael and Eko are hiding in the bushes is not Walt's at all. It's the little girls and we are being led on by the hanging bear. Can anyone get a screenshot of the feet we see and the dangling bear?

[Re1212]

I thought Walt's bear was a Polar Bear and not a Teddy Bear. I also don't remember him having it while on the island but that is was only show during one of the backstory flashbacks. Could be wrong though.

[Bartender84]

Carlton: At the beginning of last season, people didn't like Josh Holloway's character either. And by the end of the season, he was one of the most-liked characters on the show. It'll be really interesting to see, as we tell more about Ana-Lucia, whether that changes the audience's perception of her. We think it will.

That's exactly why I haven't formed an opinion of "AnaL" yet. For about the first 10 episodes last season I couldn't stand Sawyer.

[ryguy178]

What is up with Mr. Eko's stick?
http://www.keyway.ca/gif/aaronrod.gif

[JimiThang1]

You know what I just realized? Walt and the little girl from the tailies have the same bear. The bear we see when Michael and Eko are hiding in the bushes is not Walt's at all. It's the little girls and we are being led on by the hanging bear. Can anyone get a screenshot of the feet we see and the dangling bear?
The feet associated with the dangling bear was definately the girl...not Walt.

[skywalker_009]

The attached image goes with the thought that the people on the boat
are the people from the orientation film.

dare i say you... missed the boat... ripshot... yeah that sucked...

[Beefsteak1138]

The feet associated with the dangling bear was definately the girl...not Walt.
Maybe Walt and the girl are the same person. You know, like Michael and Janet Jackson.

[JimiThang1]

Maybe Walt and the girl are the same person. You know, like Michael and Janet Jackson.
OMFG THE KIDS = MICHAEL JACKSON = NEVERLAND = THE ISLAND!!@!@#%@#% THE ISLAND IS NEVERLAND RANCH@#^#%&$#w%&

[@drian]

Ana Lucia used to be a man.

im thinking she was a stripper
...

wow has wondered why no flight attendants survived... both pilots died... but what about the sexy stews?

[Re1212]

dare i say you... missed the boat... ripshot... yeah that sucked...

Hey! Just passing on a theory. :rolleyes

[skywalker_009]

Hey! Just passing on a theory. :rolleyes

whoops that was supposed to be rimshot, but i cant spell... just messin with ya...

[mr.MikeD]

i find it interesting that they are super-scared of the others, but mr. eko was able to kill 2 at once, and AL killed two of them as well, all gun-free

[wolfdisney]

Yeah,huh, isnt that weird

[skywalker_009]

i find it interesting that they are super-scared of the others, but mr. eko was able to kill 2 at once, and AL killed two of them as well, all gun-free

and you wouldnt be super-scared if some crazy people that you cant see are taking people that youre with... i know i would be...

[smeritt]

Not only taking people but speakign backwards as well

[Talula62]

Bitchface almost makes this impossible to watch.


And this is like the B-team of Lost actors.

Agreed and agreed. :thumbsup

That was a shitty ending.

Totally.

OMFG THE KIDS = MICHAEL JACKSON = NEVERLAND = THE ISLAND!!@!@#%@#% THE ISLAND IS NEVERLAND RANCH@#^#%&$#w%&

:lol :lol Derek, your theories are the best. :lol

[41ravens]

Just got caught up over the weekend. I had missed the last two episodes. And I have to say, I still hate Michelle Rodriguez's character. I don't know why, she just sucks. It was fun to see Dr. Mike in last week's episode as Nathan (Ed fans will know who I'm talking about). Hopefully the next few episodes will pick up. These last two have been kinda lame. I guess there was the whole Shannon dying thing, but we all knew it was coming, so it was kind of anti-climactic.

[JimiThang1]

:lol :lol Derek, your theories are the best. :lol
I try...

I read today that ABC has been quietly adding hispanic characters to their entire primetime lineup. They might need to work a little harder in finding better hispanic actors first since AnaL isn't the best of the best.

[smeritt]

I try...

I read today that ABC has been quietly adding hispanic characters to their entire primetime lineup. They might need to work a little harder in finding better hispanic actors first since AnaL isn't the best of the best.Hey for all we know George Lopez is an Other

[JimiThang1]

Hey for all we know George Lopez is an Other
That would be so awesome... :rolleyes

Even better Dharma and Greg come back from a long "lost" hiatus...

OMFGWTFBBQ!@$!!11 DHARMA INTIATIVE = DHARMA AND GREG (http://www.crazyabouttv.com/Images/dharmaandgreg.jpg)!#@%!

[Beefsteak1138]

Same person, OMGTFBBQ11!1!!1one!!!!on1'!!!!111!

http://koti.mbnet.fi/jayjay/tvdome/dharmagreg/kuvat/cast_gibson.jpg

http://a.abc.com/primetime/lost/images/bios/bio_fox.jpg

[Dave G]

Hopefully the next few episodes will pick up. These last two have been kinda lame. I guess there was the whole Shannon dying thing, but we all knew it was coming, so it was kind of anti-climactic.

I thought that the opening scene for the last episode where you’re looking at an idyllic beach scene, then pieces of the airplane start to fall from the sky and the seat takes out the camera was the quite powerful.
Although I do think that except for a few exceptions I agree it went downhill from there

[kjzz12]

And I have to say, I still hate Michelle Rodriguez's character. I don't know why, she just sucks.
Well, maybe because she kinda killed Shannon.

[Talula62]

Well, maybe because she kinda killed Shannon.

I don't hate her because of that. I don't like her because she's one dimensional. Sure she liked those kids and sure she cried after 40 days but I really don't care. It's like, you can predict everything she'll do or say and they need to change that.

And if next week goes like the previews, she'll be about to kill Sayid but as soon as she forgives herself and stops blaming herself like she's been doing ever since X happened in her flashbacks, she'll be able to let go and, in a physical representation of that, she'll let Sayid go. And the orchestra will play and a single tear will run down her face and Sayid will touch her hand and take her back to camp where Jack will offer her a piece of papaya and then we'll close-up on Kate making an evil "I licked that piece of papaya" face before we fade to black and L O S T.

Or something. :lol I have no idea. I just don't like her right now, obviously. :lol

[41ravens]

I don't hate her because of that. I don't like her because she's one dimensional. Sure she liked those kids and sure she cried after 40 days but I really don't care. It's like, you can predict everything she'll do or say and they need to change that.

And if next week goes like the previews, she'll be about to kill Sayid but as soon as she forgives herself and stops blaming herself like she's been doing ever since X happened in her flashbacks, she'll be able to let go and, in a physical representation of that, she'll let Sayid go. And the orchestra will play and a single tear will run down her face and Sayid will touch her hand and take her back to camp where Jack will offer her a piece of papaya and then we'll close-up on Kate making an evil "I licked that piece of papaya" face before we fade to black and L O S T.

Or something. :lol I have no idea. I just don't like her right now, obviously. :lol

:thumbsup Exactly. I don't care that she killed Shannon. Someone was going to. I just don't think Michelle's that great of an actress. She seems to be forcing her character too much. Ok, we get it, you're pissed off and don't like anyone. She's like the female version of Michael, but I can at least stand him.

[Talula62]

What you're saying about AnaL and Michael....I've felt this "trying too hard" thing many times. But it varies with storyline and plot points and moves from character to character. I've felt it with Kate, Jack, Sawyer, even Locke. So, I think it's the writers.

But, it's more constant with AnaL so I think it's a bit of MRod's acting as well. She's not horrid but not up to par with a lot of the others.

[JimiThang1]

I don't hate her because of that. I don't like her because she's one dimensional. Sure she liked those kids and sure she cried after 40 days but I really don't care. It's like, you can predict everything she'll do or say and they need to change that.

And if next week goes like the previews, she'll be about to kill Sayid but as soon as she forgives herself and stops blaming herself like she's been doing ever since X happened in her flashbacks, she'll be able to let go and, in a physical representation of that, she'll let Sayid go. And the orchestra will play and a single tear will run down her face and Sayid will touch her hand and take her back to camp where Jack will offer her a piece of papaya and then we'll close-up on Kate making an evil "I licked that piece of papaya" face before we fade to black and L O S T.

Or something. :lol I have no idea. I just don't like her right now, obviously. :lol

No it won't be and orchestra it will be the obligatory 5 minute pop garbage slow song that is at the end of every damn show on TV now...i'm thinking something by Sarah McLachlin on this one...

[Talula62]

No it won't be and orchestra it will be the obligatory 5 minute pop garbage slow song that is at the end of every damn show on TV now...i'm thinking something by Sarah McLachlin on this one...

:lol Oh yes. How could I forget? All maudlin orchestral music, high pitched "my daughter is in a zombie-hospital" flute playing, and Sarah McLachlan songs are one and the same for me anymore.

[junior94]

wow... you guys.... :rolleyes :lol

First, I suppose last week's ep was intended to give us an "excuse" for lack of a better word, an acceptable reason why AnaL (I just love that that's caught on here, btw :p ) is the way she is -- but I don't buy it. I don't see that everything she's experienced is a free license to be a monumental bitch. And hello? Where are the balls of the other tailes concerning this chick?? I mentioned this to someone else privately last week, after she'd throw Nathan in that prison pit, well by golly she had no right to do that and I would've let him out, and if it meant a fight with AnaL, then so be it. She'd just automatically appointed herself judge and jury, does nobody else have a backbone?

And regarding this week's new ep, can anyone else imagine what transpires to where AnaL's got Sayid tied up to a tree? It can't just be her next move against what will surely be Sayid coming after her for revenge for Shannon.

[Talula62]

wow... you guys.... :rolleyes :lol

First, I suppose last week's ep was intended to give us an "excuse" for lack of a better word, an acceptable reason why AnaL (I just love that that's caught on here, btw :p ) is the way she is -- but I don't buy it. I don't see that everything she's experienced is a free license to be a monumental bitch.

What, no good? :angel

I don't buy it either. I like the "AnaL" thing though too. They all use it on TWoP also.

[JimiThang1]

"my daughter is in a zombie-hospital"
I really hope that the others end up being zombie's...a show isn't considered a classic without zombie's.

[Talula62]

I really hope that the others end up being zombie's...a show isn't considered a classic without zombie's.

Is that a new rule? :lol I like that rule!

[JimiThang1]

Is that a new rule? :lol I like that rule!
Oh yea...i'm calling it right now...4th season finale of Lost will reveal that the Others are zombies...cause it's a rule of thumb that a show jumps the shark right around the 4th season.

[flyer3468]

Oh yea...i'm calling it right now...4th season finale of Lost will reveal that the Others are zombies...cause it's a rule of thumb that a show jumps the shark right around the 4th season.

Sopranos at 4, 24 at 4, X-Files after 5

So far it's happened to all my favorite shows that have gone that far.

[JMay 419]

lost saaaahhcck oh maaah gaawd the onlyy time im lost is when im stoned outta my mind

[skywalker_009]

lost saaaahhcck oh maaah gaawd the onlyy time im lost is when im stoned outta my mind

you are quite possibly the unfunniest person ever... please go away...

[Talula62]

Sopranos at 4, 24 at 4, X-Files after 5

So far it's happened to all my favorite shows that have gone that far.

Sopranos jumped the shark? Please elaborate, off topic though it may be.

[Bartender84]

24 at 4

I'd watch a bit of season 5 before making that judgement. I've read a few spoilers, nothing major, but so far this season is looking to be 100% better than Season 4

[flyer3468]

Sopranos jumped the shark? Please elaborate, off topic though it may be.

The past two seasons of Sopranos have been terrible. Nothing but a bunch of standalone character episodes and very little plot, and a shitty plot at that.

Imagine if there were no more questions answered in Lost and the next two seasons are just flashbacks and we never find out what is going on in the island, but we only get to see the characters further developed.

[flyer3468]

I'd watch a bit of season 5 before making that judgement. I've read a few spoilers, nothing major, but so far this season is looking to be 100% better than Season 4

Season 4 was by far the worst in the series yet, they just ran out of ideas to top the terror threats in the previous seasons and they just threw everything together to make it seem worse. I will watch Season 5 only if they don't resolve Jack's problem in the first episode. I would love to see a season, or at least half of a season, where Jack is a fugitive and is still trying to save the country. I'm afraid that they'll pull a fast one on us and do the two year gap, and say that most of the problems with Jack and the Chinese were settled. And he'll be back at CTU next week.

[Talula62]

The past two seasons of Sopranos have been terrible. Nothing but a bunch of standalone character episodes and very little plot, and a shitty plot at that.

Imagine if there were no more questions answered in Lost and the next two seasons are just flashbacks and we never find out what is going on in the island, but we only get to see the characters further developed.

I see. Yeah, I hear you. The plot has really slowed down and the show is a lot different. But I'm one of the minority that still really enjoyed 4 and 5. Not all of season 4 but I appreciated that there was so much development of Carmela and Adriana in particular because I'm slightly obsessed with them. I'd definitely agree that the plots were much better in the first 3 seasons though. Without a doubt. Thanks for humoring me. :)

[JimiThang1]

Imagine if there were no more questions answered in Lost and the next two seasons are just flashbacks and we never find out what is going on in the island, but we only get to see the characters further developed.
Somehow I just think it isn't going to happen to Lost because the rate they are going with the questions they hand out and the answers that also trickle out I think they can keep going with the rate they have it at right now.

[flyer3468]

Somehow I just think it isn't going to happen to Lost because the rate they are going with the questions they hand out and the answers that also trickle out I think they can keep going with the rate they have it at right now.

I don't think so either, I was just using a metaphor if Lost was to follow the path of Sopranos. I think at this rate, Lost is getting better and better, and if it does begin to decline I will really be surprised.

[Talula62]

So, Lost is new this week, right?

I'm so happy that I have my Lost-Alias night back starting December 7th!!!! :bounce

[JimiThang1]

I'm so happy that I have my Lost-Alias night back starting December 7th!!!! :bounce
Same here...I really hope it continues after Alias comes back from hiatus...they really need to just cancel that stupid Invasion...god it's so bad.

[zigbaldi]

I don't think so either, I was just using a metaphor if Lost was to follow the path of Sopranos. I think at this rate, Lost is getting better and better, and if it does begin to decline I will really be surprised.

just so you know your avatar kicks major ass! :thumbsup That arena scene was the craziest scene ever!

[Bartender84]

Season 4 was by far the worst in the series yet, they just ran out of ideas to top the terror threats in the previous seasons and they just threw everything together to make it seem worse. I will watch Season 5 only if they don't resolve Jack's problem in the first episode. I would love to see a season, or at least half of a season, where Jack is a fugitive and is still trying to save the country. I'm afraid that they'll pull a fast one on us and do the two year gap, and say that most of the problems with Jack and the Chinese were settled. And he'll be back at CTU next week.
After reading that, I think you're going to enjoy this season. If I say any more, I may spoil it.

[Bartender84]

Same here...I really hope it continues after Alias comes back from hiatus...they really need to just cancel that stupid Invasion...god it's so bad.
Just curious, how many episodes of Invasion did you watch? Because it's starting to pick up the pace. I don't want it gone, and I'm fine with Alias on Thursday

[JimiThang1]

Just curious, how many episodes of Invasion did you watch? Because it's starting to pick up the pace. I don't want it gone, and I'm fine with Alias on Thursday
I watched 4 episodes...after that I couldn't stand it anymore, the actors are terrible. It's hard watching that and Lost back to back because Lost is so amazingly acted and then you watch Invasion where the actors are horrible.

[dmbesco]

I watched 4 episodes...after that I couldn't stand it anymore, the actors are terrible. It's hard watching that and Lost back to back because Lost is so amazingly acted and then you watch Invasion where the actors are horrible.

I don't think Invasion is that bad. I dvr it every week and watch it later when I have free time. Comparing it to Lost isn't a good way to judge the show. For me, that would mean the majority of tv is worthless. Wait, most of it is. I do agree with another poster who said that Invasion has been picking up the pace. I'm interested to see where they go with the storyline. I'll watch it for the whole first season and then decide. I think Prison Break is a far better first year show than Invasion. I hope they resolve the possible 6 month hiatus that's looming when 24 returns in a few weeks. :thumbsdow

[JimiThang1]

I don't think Invasion is that bad. I dvr it every week and watch it later when I have free time. Comparing it to Lost isn't a good way to judge the show. For me, that would mean the majority of tv is worthless. Wait, most of it is. I do agree with another poster who said that Invasion has been picking up the pace. I'm interested to see where they go with the storyline. I'll watch it for the whole first season and then decide. I think Prison Break is a far better first year show than Invasion. I hope they resolve the possible 6 month hiatus that's looming when 24 returns in a few weeks. :thumbsdow
Too bad ABC is probably going to cancel it after this season...it's getting killed in the ratings.

[dmbesco]

Too bad ABC is probably going to cancel it after this season...it's getting killed in the ratings.

I probably wouldn't lose sleep over it. I enjoy it, but if it were to get cancelled it wouldn't be the end of the world. Although with me not being a big tv watcher (besides sports), my list of shows is dwindling. Prison Break is going to be done for a while, Rome just finished until 2007, and that leaves Lost as the only show I really have to see every week. I missed the boat on 24 and Alias and they're too far along for me to try and catch up. I'm going to go for Deadwood instead so that by the time I catch up to that the new ones will be starting.

[smeritt]

I agree I missed the Alias and 24 trains a long time ago. So i'll just stick to Lost, Sports and repeated movies on direct tv every night

[Dave G]

I'm going to go for Deadwood instead so that by the time I catch up to that the new ones will be starting.

:thumbsup
I love “Deadwood"! Wonderful writers and a very talented cast
Ian McShane who plays Al Swearengen has to be one of the best villains on TV now.
I don’t have HBO so I have been renting the first season of “Deadwood” on DVD, which is nice because they have the feature of being able to choose to play an episode while the actors talk about how it was made.
Very interesting

[flyer3468]

Deadwood and Lost constantly battle it out for my favorite show on TV, and since Deadwood is on hiatus, Lost is winning now.

[snapmcd]

Deadwood and Lost constantly battle it out for my favorite show on TV, and since Deadwood is on hiatus, Lost is winning now.

Deadwood is amazing. It took me a few episodes to warm up to it, but I was completely hooked after that.

[zigbaldi]

Stay!!!! Haha...I started to laugh out load when that happened.

i heard that too. DMB and Lost, Can't get any better than that:thumbsup

[skywalker_009]

i heard that too. DMB and Lost, Can't get any better than that:thumbsup

i dont think anyone else noticed though:rolleyes...

[zigbaldi]

i dont think anyone else noticed though:rolleyes...

chill dude, i just watched it the other day. i was away and didn't get to see it till then. im very well aware everyone already knows this :twenty4

[JimiThang1]

i heard that too. DMB and Lost, Can't get any better than that:thumbsup
You should of been here when it happened...literally 10 different posts in DMBc...and this is by people that don't even frequent this thread...it was ridiculous

[clemson357]

I would fucking kill that stupid bitch

[clemson357]

seriously, fucking control freak. Point a gun at me and I would kill her in her fucking sleep.

[clemson357]

anyone else notice that her mother is the indian doctor from Ernest Goes To Camp?

[clemson357]

is there a new rule about no posting during the show? or did everyone stop watching?

[smeritt]

so obviously jack saved ana lucia

[batleon]

I've been on a self-imposed exile from this thread since I spoiled something a few weeks back, and I want to apologize to those of you who read that post again. But I'm pulling myself out of that exile just this once to say....

That episode was phenomenal, a real example of why this show is so spectacular.

That's all.

[JimiThang1]

is there a new rule about no posting during the show? or did everyone stop watching?
Lost sucks now...it's like the New Coke, good one minute, sucks the next...:lol

[@drian]

so obviously jack saved ana lucia

what do you mean by that?

[UCFish]

so obviously jack saved ana lucia


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