LOST (the tv show)

[Dr. Strangelove]

can you imagine when this generation is like the adult generation?? :lol
I honestly try not to, but yes, sadly I sometimes do.

:lorraine

[Talula62]

It makes me doubt humanity sometimes.




No, seriously. It does.
:lol Wow, I completely forgot that I'd posted in here yesterday. I just ran far far away from the whole site. :lol

[MacGuyver]

:lol Wow, I completely forgot that I'd posted in here yesterday. I just ran far far away from the whole site. :lol

:lol :lol

post and run, the new style.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Well, at least there's much love in here.

Whatever cringe-inducing thread I'm reading, I know when I open up the LOST thread, it's nothing but love.

:)

[JimiThang1]

Here's a clip from the preview special last night...nothing too spoilerish.

http://www.lostlinks.net/videos/sneakpeek.htm

[Dr. Strangelove]

I haven't been following the Lost Experience online too much lately, but apparently the meaning of the numbers has been determined, as well as some other stuff.

Any good links, Derek?

[Dave G]

Here's a clip from the preview special last night...nothing too spoilerish.

http://www.lostlinks.net/videos/sneakpeek.htm

That was pretty cool, all I could think about watching Sawyer push the buttons was that it was so a "don't go down the basement thing"

Can't wait for this show to start up again

[JimiThang1]

I haven't been following the Lost Experience online too much lately, but apparently the meaning of the numbers has been determined, as well as some other stuff.

Any good links, Derek?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PPCCcXarkc

Enjoy

[Dr. Strangelove]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PPCCcXarkc

Enjoy
Ahh, gracias.

[MacGuyver]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PPCCcXarkc

Enjoy

I really, really want to watch this. But I'm at work :lorraine

[MacGuyver]

That was pretty cool, all I could think about watching Sawyer push the buttons was that it was so a "don't go down the basement thing"

Can't wait for this show to start up again

me too, for the most part I loathe the stuff on TV, and LOST is the only show I reserve time to watch.

One day I'll watch 24, and then when I'm done that, I might do Sopranos. Just never got into them. :shrug

[Talula62]

Ooooh. Interesting video.

[MacGuyver]

Ooooh. Interesting video.

noooooooo!!!! Don't tempt me to watch it here!!!! :lol

[Talula62]

be strong, young macguyver, like your namesake.

[Nautiest_monkey]

First time poster in the thread. rented the first season out of bordom half way through season 2's run on TV and I could wait for it to arrive on DVD. Been through it twice and in the last week and can not wait for October 4th.

[MacGuyver]

be strong, young macguyver, like your namesake.

my namesake wasn't strong, just ingeneous! He'd figure out a way to hook up his work computer with his ipod remotely and go watch it in his car.

I wish I really was macguver :(

[Route_2]

Looks like our captured Lostaways are having some experiments run on them.

[Dr. Strangelove]

my namesake wasn't strong, just ingeneous! He'd figure out a way to hook up his work computer with his ipod remotely and go watch it in his car.

I wish I really was macguver :(
I've been called the "Macguyver of bongs", but err.......yeah.

[junior94]

me too, for the most part I loathe the stuff on TV, and LOST is the only show I reserve time to watch.

One day I'll watch 24, and then when I'm done that, I might do Sopranos. Just never got into them. :shrug

Mac, allow me to save you oodles of time right here and now if I may, and say don't bother. I watched these 5 seaons of "24" so far but I'm finally done with it, honestly I'm embarrassed I lasted that long. I've always been a strong Kiefer Sutherland fan, but it got more contrived, convoluted and ridiculous with each passing episode, and thus season. Things had a way of transpiring very conveniently on that show. Very often (particularly in this past year's s5) the producers admittedly hadn't decided what would be the "big shocking" late season reveal until not too long before they made the reveal itself. I say particularly because last season's "biggie" really made no sense whatsoever if you just stopped to think of a few certain events that happened earlier on in the year. I think they chose it just as a way of wanting to continually top themselves.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PPCCcXarkc

Enjoy


So am I the only one that's watched that and STILL doesn't really understand what they're trying to say about the #'s? I mean I don't know if chalk it up to the quality (obviously intended) and that I missed hearing certain words or whatever, but maybe I'm just thick, I tried to follow it but I don't really grasp the whole "value" thing they're talking about.
(I do have to admit though to a bit of chuckling at the way they ended that, I mean seriously who didn't watch that wondering when the other shoe was gonna drop and the instructor or whoever he was was gonna suddenly "think he saw something from behind the stacks" :p :rolleyes )


Y'all, nDMBc has been scaring the shit out of me for weeks now. It's not ending. Hold me?



It's been scaring me for the past year...why do you think I only venture into here?



I avoid most of the whole board except for tour threads of shows i'm going to and the occasional thread like Lost. People bitch and complain entirely too much.



Well yea, and Alli, not like this'll be any news to you, you know all to well, but all this is a huge factor of why I essentially retired from this place. Hell except for one quick post I made in the House MD thread a couple hours ago where I just wanted to spread a link, I haven't literally done anything here in a couple months at least, and really haven't even lurked hardly at all either. I just stopped caring, this place became a freak show and from what I've seen now still very much is. I mean I've said it a million times there's just a slew of idiots around this joint and I just can't relate to these people, and so have been happily absent. I really don't even know that this would be me coming "back" at all even (though I know, the lot of you are just desperate to find out, you're just hanging on the edge of your seat ;) :p ), but if I were at all I'm sure it would just be for occassionally speaking up here, particularly with the new season starting up.


But anyhow, back to god forbid a thought on the show itself.... I'm not saying I have a specific reason to believe this, it's just a feeling I have. But I've got just that -- a feeling -- that after not too terribly long we'll end up rooting for at least some of The Others, and I mean just generally in whatever they're doing. That eventually we'll see that, maybe not all, but some, are in fact "the good guys", just like Mr. Henry Gale reassured Michael.
(which, speaking of, anybody notice that one particular Capital One credit card ad where the family is train hopping as the way to inexpensively travel for their vacation -- one of the bums in the train is Zeke! complete with full beard and everything ;) )


EDIT: oh and I forgot to mention, I already told Alli about this but, you know that I'd taken so long without making a post, that when I did happen to come to the site, there was actually a message that kept appearing at the top of every page I was on that said something like "junior94! We see that it's been a long time since you've posted in our forums. Why don't you ask a question, participate in a poll or try to provide an answer to a fellow member in one of our more technical areas!'..... something to that affect. It seriously said that, yep :D

[tosssweep]

EDIT: oh and I forgot to mention, I already told Alli about this but, you know that I'd taken so long without making a post, that when I did happen to come to the site, there was actually a message that kept appearing at the top of every page I was on that said something like "junior94! We see that it's been a long time since you've posted in our forums. Why don't you ask a question, participate in a poll or try to provide an answer to a fellow member in one of our more technical areas!'..... something to that affect. It seriously said that, yep :D


Dude, I got that message all summer since I've been avoiding the boards since last spring and mostly just used the site to check setlists and the like. I need to not get sucked in to posting again...

[junior94]

(in regards to the insanity of DMBc)
Up next:

Who's a better composer?

Mozart.............................3 votes
Dave Matthews.................1385 votes


:ugh


Oh and I forgot to comment on this earlier as well. This so very much reminds me of something else I've been exposed to a bit recently. I've very happily become a fan of California born singer/songwriter Anna Nalick over the last year. Somewhere in there I found the message board on her official Columbia Records site.

Now, a number of the fans who post regularly on this msg board are in fact perfectly nice and lovely people, but for the love of god they never tire of finding new ways to tell you that Anna is literally the greatest new singing talent of the last 25 years. I'm not kidding. I mean it's practically a given that for several of these people Anna's already become their favorite overall artist in all of music, but then to go on about how she's the best (if not at least among them) singer of the last couple decades :rolleyes It's just insanity. And hell, I'll tell Anna right to her face, I mean she's really got a great gift as a lyricist, a beautiful haunting voice and I believe she's got a helluva bright future, but Joni Mitchell and Tori Amos SHE AIN'T quite yet. And the funny thing is she'll be the first one to tell ya.

And like, I know the idea doesn't perfectly transfer over, but in a way I kind of want to pull that classic speech that William Shatner gives to the Trekkie convention in that old episode of Saturday Night Live :D

Hello, Anna Nalick fans. I'd like you to meet Perspective. Perspective, meet Anna Nalick fans. I'm sure you'll get along famously :angel

[Talula62]

Guess who's back. Back again. Shady's back. Tell a friend. Guess who's back Guess who's back Guess who's back Guess who's back Guess who's back Guess who's back Guess who's back Na-na-na...

That was for you Kev. And tha's RIGHT about Tori Amos!!! :inlove

But about the final video - this isn't spoilery right?? Just in case...yeah, I'm sketchy on the numbers thing too but they lost me at "equation" :lol I'm thinking that I at least understand that they are trying to perfect a virus that only kills those for whom it was genetically designed to kill? Is that right? A virus to stop famine and wars... they want to kill all the bad guys of the world?

Also, hey, "MacGuyver of Bongs," were you the one smoking out of an apple in front of me N2 at the Gorge? ;)

[JimiThang1]

We don't know the equation yet. The numbers are what is put into the equation to see when the end of the world is. The Dharma Intiatives goal is to change the numbers so that there is a different outcome and possibly stop the end of the world.

[Talula62]

Oh, they're trying to change the numbers. So... how can you change a number that is put into an equation? This is where my head starts to hurt. I'm a social scientist not a damned mathematician! Is it like these numbers are supposedly givens and they're trying to manipulate things to change the given and delay the end of the world? I need to phone a friend.

[JimiThang1]

Read this:
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Sri_Lanka_Video

and this:
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Valenzetti_Equation

Hopefully that will make more sense to you. It's just to much to type out and explain.

[Talula62]

You are the greatest, D.

[JimiThang1]

No prob...it's crazy stuff.

[Talula62]

I'm starting to think that JJ has major trouble sleeping at night.

[Talula62]

I'm spending far too much time investigating this damned video. Here's an interesting theory someone came up with that incorporates all this new stuff into it. http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showpost.php?p=1158431&postcount=57

[junior94]

We don't know the equation yet. The numbers are what is put into the equation to see when the end of the world is. The Dharma Intiatives goal is to change the numbers so that there is a different outcome and possibly stop the end of the world.

But wait, didn't we already get hooked up with the date the world's gonna end in the big X-Files finale? See, we just need to get Chris Carter hooked up with JJ, Lindelof & Cuse and we'll be good to go ;) :D


and Alli, I say because I love you.... Put DOWN the keyboard, and wheel yourself AWAY from the monitor. C'mon hon, it's ok ;) We're all right here, you're gonna be just fine. We're gonna go out for some ice cream. Dontcha want some ice cream?

:D muah

[Dr. Strangelove]

Also, hey, "MacGuyver of Bongs," were you the one smoking out of an apple in front of me N2 at the Gorge? ;)
:lol

No, but I've done that several times. I've even done a watermelon. Yes, a watermelon.

[bustedstuff77]

Read this:
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Sri_Lanka_Video

and this:
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Valenzetti_Equation

Hopefully that will make more sense to you. It's just to much to type out and explain.
I think my head is going to explode trying to figure this all out. Hopefully we'll get a better understanding of everything in October and see exactly what the others plan to do with them.

[bustedstuff77]

what do you guys think of the new preview? It looks like Sawyer is in somekind of experiment for Monkeys where they train them to push buttons or something. Who do you think that other guy is? I thought it was Jack, but it wasn't. Maybe he is one of the others sent to pretend he is a prisoner.

[JimiThang1]

More like polar bear experiment

[JimiThang1]

Heh I never noticed in the episode "The Hunting Party" when they meet up with Zeke for the first time, he says "You know someone a whole lot smarter than anyone here once said 'From the dawn of our species, man has been blessed with curiosity."' Just like the tagline in the Hanso Foundation commercials and used on the Hanso website.

This almost confirms that they have something to do with Hanso.

[tankdan]

Hurley: "Dude, you've got some Artz on you."

Soooo, October 4th is cool.

Dan

[zigbaldi]

I remember reading somewhere, i think it was on the ABC boards, but I saw a theory about what that statue with the foot meant. They were talking about some crazy civilization of people and what they had to do with it. Does anyone know what i'm talking about?

[junior94]

If anyone has yet to see the extended Season 3 preview, or you'd just like to have it on the HD for repeated viewing at your leisure, here's a very well seeded torrent of an .AVI file of it, about 24mb big.

http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/860026/Lost_Season_3_Preview

[Dr. Strangelove]

Update on episode two. Nothing too spoilerish. There's a guest star from the past...

Episode 3.02: Further Instructions (Locke-centric)
Airdate: October 11, 2006

The Oct. 11 episode, called "Further Instructions," will also reveal what happened to Locke, Desmond and Eko when the hatch collapsed in last season's finale, and will find Hurley returning to camp after being released by the Others. "Ian Somerhalder guest stars as Boone," the network copy says.

[dh4645]

Read this:
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Sri_Lanka_Video

and this:
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Valenzetti_Equation

Hopefully that will make more sense to you. It's just to much to type out and explain.

i cant keep up with all of this stuff.
i'll just watch the show and enjoy it. no more looking deeper into things

[41ravens]

just finished up catching up on season 2 this week. i'm sure it's been discussed, but i think jack and sayid are up to something. with the look he gave kate and the fact that it shows sayid, jin and sun on the boat back to their camp makes me think they're up to something. when the group didn't show up to sayid's fire, wouldn't he have gone looking for them? instead, they were on their way back as if lighting the fire was the only thing he meant to do. can't wait for oct. 4.

[tankdan]

Questions I want answered this season, or eventually:

-What's up with that polar bear?
-What's up with the black smoke monster?
-What's up with the exploding ground monster?
-What's up with the big statue foot?
-What's up with that monster from the cockpit?
-Most importantly, what's up with that arctic search party?

Anyone else have any?

Dan

[baloneybandit21]

how many months in between new episodes are we gonna hafta wait everytime?

[tankdan]

I'm 99% sure that they're breaking it into two parts... October - Early December, then maybe February - May. Anyone else know the specifics?

Dan

[Dr. Strangelove]

how many months in between new episodes are we gonna hafta wait everytime?
Six episodes air back-to-back starting next Wednesday, then there's a break until February, when all the other episodes will air back-to-back. There will be the same amount of episodes this season as last season.

[baloneybandit21]

why dont they just wait like 24, so they can air them all in a row?its SO FRIGGIN ANNOYING!

[tankdan]

Yeh, here's the story I found on it:

http://www.tv.com/tracking/viewer.html?tid=96810&ref_id=24313&ref_type=101&tag=story_list;title;2

October 4th: Recap Episode + Season Premiere

"Six or Seven" Episodes

November 15th: "Day Break" premieres and runs for 13 weeks.

On or After February 14th: "Lost" returns for "15 or 16" episodes.

Dan

[baloneybandit21]

thanks, good find, though it doesnt make me ne less upset that there will be 13 straight weeks without lost

[tankdan]

It's the holidays plus winter break plus the first few weeks of second semester, so that should go by pretty fast.

Dan

POST #420! That's my room number!

[angelces]

decent lost blog... http://njmg.typepad.com/lost/

[tosssweep]

why dont they just wait like 24, so they can air them all in a row?its SO FRIGGIN ANNOYING!

Personally, I think this format is far more suitable to the type of show Lost is. The first 6 episodes keep the time between seasons to just 4 months, start to answer some of the questions posed by the previous season finale, and also will likely leave us with a mini-cliffhanger as we wait out the next couple months. Then again, some more questions asked as we head full steam to the spring with another season finale. While it will seem like an annoying 13 weeks in the middle, I'm thankful already that every episode will be brand new - woo hoo!!!

[Dr. Strangelove]

Yes, I can't wait for the TWO cliffhangers we'll get this season. Two for the price of one!

[tankdan]

Just a headline:

They are playing a Recap episode tonight at 9 on ABC.

Dan

[MacGuyver]

with NO timeshifting. I just got home and I can't find it anywhere on tv.

[siouxsiesue]

Yes, I loved that it was in linear form. Looking forward to the season premiere next week. :thumbsup

[Dr. Strangelove]

Yes, I loved that it was in linear form. Looking forward to the season premiere next week. :thumbsup
Yeah, sadly I'll probably miss it so I'll be lurking the various torrent sites so I'll get it the moment it's up.

[MacGuyver]

Yeah, sadly I'll probably miss it so I'll be lurking the various torrent sites so I'll get it the moment it's up.

:eek:eek:eek say it ain't so!

[Dr. Strangelove]

:eek:eek:eek say it ain't so!
Yeah, sadly it probably is. I waited all Summer. I can hold out an extra hour or two. :)

It just sucks because I won't get to watch it with the folks I usually watch it with.

[MacGuyver]

so did I miss anything kind of important with the episode last night? any stuff from a while ago that we may have forgotten about?

[Route_2]

Nothing really new. It showed more previews of next week's episode than have been shown in the past, which is the only benefit for avid fans that I could see.

[TrippinBilliam]

I need to stop reading this thread. I am almost done with season 2 now and I'm going to ruin it for myself. See you guys when I'm done in a couple of days.

[bustedstuff77]

just finished up catching up on season 2 this week. i'm sure it's been discussed, but i think jack and sayid are up to something. with the look he gave kate and the fact that it shows sayid, jin and sun on the boat back to their camp makes me think they're up to something. when the group didn't show up to sayid's fire, wouldn't he have gone looking for them? instead, they were on their way back as if lighting the fire was the only thing he meant to do. can't wait for oct. 4.
I don't think so. I think the look was more that he was pissed off cause he knew it was a trap and his plan didn't work. Jack is protective of Kate, I don't think that he would put her in that situation intentionaly.

[MacGuyver]

Nothing really new. It showed more previews of next week's episode than have been shown in the past, which is the only benefit for avid fans that I could see.

thanks bro :thumbsup

[clayj41]

Finished watching Season 2 again last night.....can't wait until Wednesday!:multi

[tankdan]

I'm bored, and I'm watching Season One: Disc One, so here's a fun thing I'll try.

What was the biggest surprise for you?

Sun speaking English.
Kate being a criminal.
Locke being a cripple.
Charlie being a druggie.
Sawyer pulling a gun on the polar bear.
Michael's complicated relationship with Walt.
Hurley being a millionaire.

Dan

P.S. My vote is "Locke being a cripple." I was, like, WHAAAAAAT?

[tankdan]

Still watching Season One.
During the bee incident, Charlie brings Kate her shirt she had taken off during the bee attack.

Charlie: "Here, you left this."
Kate: "Yeh, uhh, it was full of bees."
Charlie: "I'd have thought C's."

OHHHHHH!!!! I love this show.

Dan

P.S. I miss when Kate randomly would take off her clothes. Let's have more of that.

[Talula62]

Wow. Lines like that remind me how weird it is that Charlie and Kate do it in real life. Ha ha.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Wow. Lines like that remind me how weird it is that Charlie and Kate do it in real life. Ha ha.
I try to forget that....


THANKS! :p

:twak

[tankdan]

More things to vote on for "What surprised you more?"

Michael getting hit by that car.
Hurley revelaing that there is an "other" among them.
Shannon conning Boone (in the flashback).

I'm a little more than halfway through Season One, but that still leaves alot left to watch before Wednesday!

Dan

[Talula62]

I try to forget that....


THANKS! :p

:twak
:lol Oops.

I think the Locke thing is still the most surprising.

[tankdan]

I'd have to say... Sun speaking English and Michael getting hit by the car (in the flashback) were the most surprising moments in the first 3/4 of Season One (I'm on 18 now).

I hate to say it, but I don't think I'm gonna make it all the way through Season Two by Wednesday.

Alas. Season Two is too complicated anyway.

Also, I'm doing what I've wanted to do for a long time: writing down each episode's flashbacks, so eventually I can go back and put them in order... PLUS make a map of how each life had crossed previous to the crash.

Does anyone know if there is a website that has "Why each character was on Flight 815?"

Dan

P.S. Boone just died. That's how much I still have left!

[JimiThang1]

Also, I'm doing what I've wanted to do for a long time: writing down each episode's flashbacks, so eventually I can go back and put them in order... PLUS make a map of how each life had crossed previous to the crash.


The second season dvds do this for you. There is a cool interactive feature that shows where they all cross in their flashbacks.

[junior94]

My fellow LOST bretheren, I come out of hiding to deliver you a review of the 3rd season premiere via Aintitcoolnews....

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30265

It is of course rather spoiley, but also before the episode review, there's noted 3 more overeaching plot ideas that are "supposedly" dealt with over the course of season 3, I emphasize a bit of skepticism because of their source being Scotland's edition of the Daily Star (as the article says, a paper more known for shots of boobies than its journalism).

Enjoy if you dare ;)

[MVDMB]

Just finished season 2 today. Oh my God. The finale is the best thing I have ever seen.

[TrippinBilliam]

Just finished season 2 myself. Just in the nick of time. Can't wait for wednesday. I wonder how long they can keep this shit up.

[tankdan]

Yeh, I finished re-watching Season One last night, and now I'm on the third episode of Season Two... It's gonna be a tight finish!

I am, also, VERY excited for the new season. So much potential. I hope they start answering some questions instead of raising new ones... Like WHAT IS WITH TH BLACK SMOKE MONSTER?

Dan

[TwoStep2888]

Finished Season 2 last night. Awesome finale.

Michael's a dick and a half, though.

[GinaNMU]

Finished Season 2 last night. Awesome finale.

Michael's a dick and a half, though.

Does anyone know if there's a chance that Michael and Walt will be back? I know they're "gone," but are the actors really done w/ the show?

GOD I can't wait! Watching that special last Wednesday got me soo excited.

[tankdan]

Finished Season 2 last night. Awesome finale.

Michael's a dick and a half, though.

Ana Lucia was THE most worthless character on the show. She did not contribute one positive thing to the island. Freaking glad she died.

Dan

(Season Two, Episode Five!)

[TwoStep2888]

Ana Lucia was THE most worthless character on the show. She did not contribute one positive thing to the island. Freaking glad she died.

Dan

(Season Two, Episode Five!)

Not as worthless as Hurley's girlfriend.

At least Analulu added to the overall badass factor of the survivors.

EDIT: I do agree that she was worthless, though. Mr. Eko is the only good thing to come from the other side of the island.

[TwoStep2888]

Does anyone know if there's a chance that Michael and Walt will be back? I know they're "gone," but are the actors really done w/ the show?

GOD I can't wait! Watching that special last Wednesday got me soo excited.

I hope they come back somehow. Walt's pretty cool, and Michael didn'y suffer the horrible death i wanted him to.

[MVDMB]

I hope they come back and Jack and Sawyer proceed to beat the ever living shit out of Michael and then hang him... like the old days... (just kidding)


The man's insane and without a doubt my least favorite character

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

and then hang him... like the old days...
:eek

[TwoStep2888]

I hope they come back and Jack and Sawyer proceed to beat the ever living shit out of Michael and then hang him... like the old days... (just kidding)


The man's insane and without a doubt my least favorite character

:ugh I just wanted Eko to hit him with the Jesus Stick.

[MVDMB]

Eko is the shit and I hate the way Locke and Jacxk have become at the end of the 2nd. They are so edgy

[Dr. Strangelove]

Eko is the shit and I hate the way Locke and Jacxk have become at the end of the 2nd. They are so edgy
Eko and Locke are probably my two favorites.

From what I've read, Locke will be going back to his old ways this season. :thumbsup

[TwoStep2888]

I like Sawyer and Hurley, because, besides the Scott/Steve joke, they're really the only source of humor in the show.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Well, here's a theory I hadn't read yet....

http://www.lostisagame.com/

Uhh.....:lol

[TwoStep2888]

Well, here's a theory I hadn't read yet....

http://www.lostisagame.com/

Uhh.....:lol

Um... Ok...

[TrippinBilliam]

I hope they come back somehow. Walt's pretty cool, and Michael didn'y suffer the horrible death i wanted him to.

If he comes back they should let Sayid work on him every day untill he finally dies.

[TrippinBilliam]

Well, here's a theory I hadn't read yet....

http://www.lostisagame.com/

Uhh.....:lol

seems a little far fetched to me.

[TrippinBilliam]

I was just reading some of the posts on the first page and I was shocked. Everyone was so negative. Almost everyone said the show would fail within 2 seasons. But then again everyone also thought that the "thing" in the first episode was a T-Rex. Funny how things change.

[Heavy As Stone]

seems a little far fetched to me.

Me too. I'll probably read through it, though. Man... that guy has some time on his hands!

[ConchitaDMB]

I just finished watching season 2 on dvd and I've been doing some back reading. I always wondered about the other random people on the island. I understand that the show is already complicated enough as it is, but what exactly do those people do? They just hang out on the beach for 65 days and let everyone else do all the exciting things? And why don't they ever question anything the other characters do? And why is Jack so whiney? "Everyone do what I say!" "My plan is the right one!!" "Locke, why couldn't you wait until I was done to shave!" He annoys me almost as much as Michael yelling about his boy every 10 seconds.

Sorry. Just had to get those things off me chest.

[clayj41]

I just finished watching season 2 on dvd and I've been doing some back reading. I always wondered about the other random people on the island. I understand that the show is already complicated enough as it is, but what exactly do those people do? They just hang out on the beach for 65 days and let everyone else do all the exciting things? And why don't they ever question anything the other characters do? And why is Jack so whiney? "Everyone do what I say!" "My plan is the right one!!" "Locke, why couldn't you wait until I was done to shave!" He annoys me almost as much as Michael yelling about his boy every 10 seconds.

Sorry. Just had to get those things off me chest.

Jack is my favorite character.:o

[Dr. Strangelove]

I just finished watching season 2 on dvd and I've been doing some back reading. I always wondered about the other random people on the island. I understand that the show is already complicated enough as it is, but what exactly do those people do? They just hang out on the beach for 65 days and let everyone else do all the exciting things? And why don't they ever question anything the other characters do? And why is Jack so whiney? "Everyone do what I say!" "My plan is the right one!!" "Locke, why couldn't you wait until I was done to shave!" He annoys me almost as much as Michael yelling about his boy every 10 seconds.

Sorry. Just had to get those things off me chest.
Well, apparently a couple "background" folks will be getting lead roles this season.

Jack is my favorite character.:o
Jack's a punk. I guess he was originally supposed to die in the first episode. Bastards! Locke needs to beat his ass senseless.

[TwoStep2888]

Here's my theory:

The dog is fucking evil. Watch the beginning of Season 1, when Jack, Kate, and Charlie are going off looking for the cockpit.

All bad things are because of the dog. Trust me on this.

Don't smoke pot, kids.

[TwoStep2888]

Jack is my favorite character.:o

I liked him in the 1st season, but he bacame kind of a douche by Season 2.

[clayj41]

I have to say that the development of Jack's character in the second season was not for the best. However I still feel that I relate to him the most, and I feel that he really does look out for the best interests of all the survivors even if he does go on a little power trip every once in awhile. Plus, he the nice guy and I like to see the nice guy succeed especially when it comes to getting the girl. That is why I hope its Jack and not Sawyer who ends up with Kate.

Other Favorites: Kate, Eko, and Hurley

[smeritt]

Its Wensday!

[clayj41]

Its Wensday!

:multi :multi :multi Lost and South Park!

[Dr. Strangelove]

:monkey

We need a polar bear emoticon or something! Screw 24...

[TwoStep2888]

I have to say that the development of Jack's character in the second season was not for the best. However I still feel that I relate to him the most, and I feel that he really does look out for the best interests of all the survivors even if he does go on a little power trip every once in awhile. Plus, he the nice guy and I like to see the nice guy succeed especially when it comes to getting the girl. That is why I hope its Jack and not Sawyer who ends up with Kate.

Other Favorites: Kate, Eko, and Hurley

For me,
1. Hurley
2. Sawyer
3. Eko

Humor is important, even in a drama. And Eko is just 5,000% badass.

[TwoStep2888]

:monkey

We need a polar bear emoticon or something! Screw 24...

Or a Michael emoticon.

:waaaaaaaaaaaaaaalt

[boobookittyfuk]

:monkey

We need a polar bear emoticon or something! Screw 24...

:thumbsup
:lol :lol


Or a Michael emoticon.

:waaaaaaaaaaaaaaalt


:i'm not going anywhere without my son dammit!!:

:p :lol

[TrippinBilliam]

:monkey

We need a polar bear emoticon or something! Screw 24...

Could we start a petition for this or something?

[Heavy As Stone]

Kate. Is so. Hot. Want to touch the hiney.

The first season was more about establishing the mythology of the show, or the spiritual side of things. Thus Locke was "on top" and Jack was down. The second season was more about the reality of things, or the scientific part. Thus Jack was "on top" and Locke was down. Now what?

[TrippinBilliam]

Kate. Is so. Hot. Want to touch the hiney.

The first season was more about establishing the mythology of the show, or the spiritual side of things. Thus Locke was "on top" and Jack was down. The second season was more about the reality of things, or the scientific part. Thus Jack was "on top" and Locke was down. Now what?

Hopefully tonight we get a glimpse into that. Oh, and Kate is indeed smokin'. :hump

[tankdan]

I want to find out what the black-smoke-monster is.

That is all.

Dan

[Tak_a_Tak]

Kate. Is so. Hot. Want to touch the hiney.

The first season was more about establishing the mythology of the show, or the spiritual side of things. Thus Locke was "on top" and Jack was down. The second season was more about the reality of things, or the scientific part. Thus Jack was "on top" and Locke was down. Now what?

Here to hoping for an entire season with Kate on top!

:hump

[TrippinBilliam]

Here to hoping for an entire season with Kate on top!

:hump

nice :lol Maybe we should ask for a Kate emoticon so smilie would finally have someone to hump besides Jack Bauer.

[GinaNMU]

YAY!!! Happy LOST day!!!!

T-minus 12 hours... well, central time...

[TrippinBilliam]

Yeah, I have to remember to stay out of here after you east-coasters see it. BTW, I just read a pretty interesting article in USA Today. It has some good insight on things to come. It might help hold you over till 9pm.

[MacGuyver]

Here to hoping for an entire season with Kate on top!

:hump

i'd take claire over kate any day of the week! mah bay-beeee!

[MacGuyver]

:monkey

We need a polar bear emoticon or something! Screw 24...

i feel your pain brother. i have volleyball tonite and am missing the premiere as well!


ahhhh and you changed your avatar?? this one will take a while to get used to!

[Dave G]

Can't wait for tonights show

I was checking out Ed Hills latest Lost article on TVgasm.com. He has a link to the compiled clips from ABC's hansoexposed.com site.
HERE (http://www.tvgasm.com/archives/lost/002754.php)

Pretty interesting

[Tak_a_Tak]

i'd take claire over kate any day of the week! mah bay-beeee!


eehh....to each his own, but.....


Man- are you crazy?!?

[Tak_a_Tak]

i feel your pain brother. i have volleyball tonite and am missing the premiere as well!




I hate the time slot they started using last year. The show used to beging at 8, and I could watch all but the very end. I would leave to go play basketball, come back and watcht the rest of it. Now that it's on at 9, I have to record the entire show and watch in the next night.

:thumbsdow

[MacGuyver]

eehh....to each his own, but.....


Man- are you crazy?!?

not at all.... kate is soooooo overrated. infact, i'd take sun, and claire over kate and her mosquito bites.

[SteelerMan]

My favorite characters...

1. Sayid
2. Sawyer
3. Desmond

Sayid should've been in charge all along. He's right pretty much 100% of the time.

[MacGuyver]

I love sayid. he is the only rational resonable one out there. sawyer is entertaining. i still love jack however.

[clayj41]

i still love jack however.

:thumbsup Hell Yeah!!! Looks like we're in the minority though....

[MacGuyver]

jack is whiney because he is for the most part the most logical, and everyone else doesn't understand.

[Dr. Strangelove]

ahhhh and you changed your avatar?? this one will take a while to get used to!
I'll revert to normal soon. This is a bit of a joke...

[clayj41]

jack is whiney because he is for the most part the most logical, and everyone else doesn't understand.

:thumbsup

[MacGuyver]

I'll revert to normal soon. This is a bit of a joke...

that i've obvioulsy been left out of!!! :mad

:lol

[twosteppinpun]

7 hours and counting

[TwoStep2888]

I love sayid. he is the only rational resonable one out there. sawyer is entertaining. i still love jack however.

:thumbsup Sayid's a total badass, second only to Eko in the category of badassness.

Jack reminds me of Tom Cruise too much, when he gets all intense and shit. I keep expecting him to jump on a couch or something.

Can't wait for tonight!

:hump:multi:waaaaaaaaaaaalt:multi:hump

[MacGuyver]

:thumbsup Sayid's a total badass, second only to Eko in the category of badassness.

Jack reminds me of Tom Cruise too much, when he gets all intense and shit. I keep expecting him to jump on a couch or something.

Can't wait for tonight!

:hump:multi:waaaaaaaaaaaalt:multi:hump

I"m not leaving without my son! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalt! Waaaaaaaaaaaaalt!

[clayj41]

I'm so excited for this that I'm hesitant to go workout because I'm afraid something may happen to me and I'll miss Lost.:lol

[GinaNMU]

I'm so excited for this that I'm hesitant to go workout because I'm afraid something may happen to me and I'll miss Lost.:lol

Hahaha, same here! Some work friends are going to have drinks at the bar down the street, but I'm scared to go in case I don't make it home on time for some random reason. Hell, I have had plans for tonight for the past HOW many months???

:multi about to leave work, and am SO excited...

[tankdan]

My vote for THE single most random moment ever in "Lost,"

Hurley's dream when he's in the pantry, chowing down, and Jin says, "Hello, Hugo." Hurley says, "Jin, you speak English?" Jin says, "No, you're speaking Korean." yadda yadda
Then the guy in the chicken suit appears.
Then Jin says "Have a cluckity-cluck cluck day, Hugo."

Dan

[TwoStep2888]

My vote for THE single most random moment ever in "Lost,"

Hurley's dream when he's in the pantry, chowing down, and Jin says, "Hello, Hugo." Hurley says, "Jin, you speak English?" Jin says, "No, you're speaking Korean." yadda yadda
Then the guy in the chicken suit appears.
Then Jin says "Have a cluckity-cluck cluck day, Hugo."

Dan

:lol:lol:lol OMG, yes!!! That is one hilariously random moment!

[joepsu0985]

So um...will someone be so kind to explain what happend last year at the end of the season...I missed the finale because I went on about a 2 week binge drinking exposotion.

[Dave G]

So um...will someone be so kind to explain what happend last year at the end of the season...I missed the finale because I went on about a 2 week binge drinking exposotion.

You can get a recap HERE (http://www.tvgasm.com/archives/lost/002212.php)

[clayj41]

Interesting content on Yahoo homepage. Nothing really surprising, but interesting nonetheless.

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/ap/20061004/115998756000.html

[clayj41]

Alright, time to eat and get ready to enjoy...:multi

[baloneybandit21]

Its Almost On!!!

[joepsu0985]

People live there?

[joepsu0985]

I mean in actual houses...Is that like a resort or somethign?

[GinaNMU]

Who is Juliette?? Have we seen her??

[joepsu0985]

wtf is this place?

[GinaNMU]

Where is everybody?? Let's talk it up people!!

[boobookittyfuk]

that very quick shot of jack in a patient's hospital room before he saw his father go off on a cell phone call, the patient where the nurse asked jack if the guy was "ready to begin self pain medicating".... was that bernard, lying in the bed?

[GinaNMU]

that very quick shot of jack in a patient's hospital room before he saw his father go off on a cell phone call, the patient where the nurse asked jack if the guy was "ready to begin self pain medicating".... was that bernard, lying in the bed?

That's exactly what I was thinking!

[tdowe99]

Tonight's episode didn't show too much.

Spoilers for West Coast people...
Well, except for Jack being a psycho in the past.
It's cool they're underwater.

Hopefully it picks up the pace soon.

[Rockyall107]

i just checked its not

[boobookittyfuk]

Tonight's episode didn't show too much.

Spoilers for West Coast people...


Hopefully it picks up the pace soon.

didn't show too much? ehh.... did you see the same opening 5 minutes that i did? :ugh

[Rockyall107]

didn't show too much? ehh.... did you see the same opening 5 minutes that i did? :ugh

:thumbsup :lol

[wolfdisney]

why did they music get all "losty" when they said each others names at the end, ben and julie/julia what the heck was her name? obviously we know ben but i dont recognize julie did i miss something?

And yeah where is everyone to talk this up?

[wolfdisney]

didn't show too much? ehh.... did you see the same opening 5 minutes that i did? :ugh
:thumbsup :lol

[gravedigger13]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Juliette Desmond's wife?

[dh4645]

so what did we learn...

jack was psycho/obsessed over his ex-wife
the others have a very civilized home area
part of their area is an aquarium/zoo

i'm sure there is more, but i am tired.
see you tomorrow LOST thread

edit: i need to see the plane breaking apart again...that was sweet. but why did it cause an "earthquake" on the island. was it the plane crossing through whatever barrier is there, or was it that huge of an explosion?

[tdowe99]

Yeah, the intro rocked.
I guess I just wanted to see more of the other characters back at the beach.
As for Juliet, she's a new character.

So how the hell did the Others get so much info?

[wolfdisney]

Yeah, the intro rocked.
I guess I just wanted to see more of the other characters back at the beach.
As for Juliet, she's a new character.

So how the hell did the Others get so much info?
yeah thats what i said when i saw that

and the intro totally rocked, I was like Whoa! and WTF at same time

[tdowe99]

but why did it cause an "earthquake" on the island. was it the plane crossing through whatever barrier is there, or was it that huge of an explosion?
I'm thinking that was the Hatch going crazy, and it caused a mega magnetic discharge, shook the island, and brought down 815.

[dh4645]

I'm thinking that was the Hatch going crazy, and it caused a mega magnetic discharge, shook the island, and brought down 815.


ah, yes.
that might be it. i forgot about that.

[boobookittyfuk]

yea, the 2 actresses do look a bit similiar, but rest assured the woman playing desmond's girl back in the real world is entirely different than this new chick juliette.

previous roles for juliette was on "er" where she had a lesbian relationship with dr. weaver, and she also played the wife of dennis quaid in the movie "frequency".

[cfjess012]

I think Jack's dad is still alive, they want you to think he is just hearing these things because he's not eating or what not. I feel like Ben (Henry Gale) made Juliette tell Jack that they found the autopsy. In the beginning of the episode hwen the crash crashed, none of the others knew anything about the people. someone is feeding them information which i think is jack's dad.

[tdowe99]

So you think Jack's dad is the evil mastermind behind the whole thing? :)

[cfjess012]

no...just someone who is giving info to the others. his body was never found in season 1, and they kept hinting at him being alive...i dunno just a thought. theres no other way they could be getting this information.

[wolfdisney]

wow thats an interesting concept about Jacks dad

[spawn]

why did they music get all "losty" when they said each others names at the end, ben and julie/julia what the heck was her name? obviously we know ben but i dont recognize julie did i miss something?

And yeah where is everyone to talk this up?

Too busy watching SOuth PArk after I've had the nine paused on dvr for the last half hour, now I'm gonna check that show out. By the by, how you doing Steve?

[spawn]

I'm thinking that was the Hatch going crazy, and it caused a mega magnetic discharge, shook the island, and brought down 815.

:thumbsup Agreed

[clayj41]

That was an amazing and very revealing episode! I loved it....thank God this show is back!:multi

[clayj41]

so what did we learn...

jack was psycho/obsessed over his ex-wife
the others have a very civilized home area
part of their area is an aquarium/zoo

i'm sure there is more, but i am tired.
see you tomorrow LOST thread

edit: i need to see the plane breaking apart again...that was sweet. but why did it cause an "earthquake" on the island. was it the plane crossing through whatever barrier is there, or was it that huge of an explosion?

You forgot to mention the heated debate about Jack's dad and his voice on the intercom.

[JimiThang1]

That was AWESOME!

[smeritt]

Was it just me or was there an excessive amounts of commericials?

And i turned off the nine cuz it blows.

[CornellDMBfan]

what a season premiere. during the intro, I was thinking, "am I on the right channel?"


then




BOOM!





aaahhh . . . Fuck you, LOST. you ruin me.

[joepsu0985]

so did we know this place was here and if so, what is it?

[livetimedmb]

Im so ready for this...

[clayj41]

Was it just me or was there an excessive amounts of commericials?

:thumbsup Probably just because I'm used to watching the DVD's.:lol

[TwoStep2888]

I think Jack's dad is still alive, they want you to think he is just hearing these things because he's not eating or what not. I feel like Ben (Henry Gale) made Juliette tell Jack that they found the autopsy. In the beginning of the episode hwen the crash crashed, none of the others knew anything about the people. someone is feeding them information which i think is jack's dad.

Maybe. That's interesting.

[Flarehouse]

i didn't think that was very revealing at all.

[kjzz12]

Okay, I missed the Lost premiere, because it airs at 8 here as opposed to back home, when it airs at 9. Anyone want to PM me and tell me at what time it'll be posted on ABC's site? I just checked, and it's got the season finale and a recap up right now. Do I have to wait til 1, so it's midnight CA time? PM me, please. I don't want to read through this thread.

[TwoStep2888]

Okay, I missed the Lost premiere, because it airs at 8 here as opposed to back home, when it airs at 9. Anyone want to PM me and tell me at what time it'll be posted on ABC's site? I just checked, and it's got the season finale and a recap up right now. Do I have to wait til 1, so it's midnight CA time? PM me, please. I don't want to read through this thread.

Tomorrow, I'm guessing.

[tankdan]

I'm still rewatching Season Two, which I must do before watching the tape of tonight's season premiere, so I have averted my eyes and come here to make a simple observation/contribution:

Two most disappointing moments of a character:

Hurley: When we first see him hording large amounts of food. I truly thought that Hurley, the character, would see the island as a perfect way to lose weight. Even with the discovery of the hatch, I thought that Hurley would certainly lose weight.

Sawyer: When he crushed that frog in his hand. It seems like that was a LITTLE too harsh, even for Sawyer. We all know he acts like a badass, but he's mostly just talk.

Any thoughts? Well, if you have some, I'll read them in a few hours, after I've watched tonight's episode.

Dan

[TwoStep2888]

I'm still rewatching Season Two, which I must do before watching the tape of tonight's season premiere, so I have averted my eyes and come here to make a simple observation/contribution:

Two most disappointing moments of a character:

Hurley: When we first see him hording large amounts of food. I truly thought that Hurley, the character, would see the island as a perfect way to lose weight. Even with the discovery of the hatch, I thought that Hurley would certainly lose weight.

Sawyer: When he crushed that frog in his hand. It seems like that was a LITTLE too harsh, even for Sawyer. We all know he acts like a badass, but he's mostly just talk.

Any thoughts? Well, if you have some, I'll read them in a few hours, after I've watched tonight's episode.

Dan

Hurley: Would be nearly as entertaining as a kinda-fat guy.

Sawyer: It's a frog. Not like he squished Claire's baby.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Just watched it.

Sweet Jesus, I love this show!

Is it next Wednesday yet?

[UCFish]

Yeah just finished it. So glad it is back. Got me so excited for more. My roomate has been watching the last two seasons on DVD and it got me excited. I want it to be next week now. The wait after the next 5 is gonna be really tough though.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Hmm. Now I wonder what "Carrie" has to do with anything or if it was just a random shout-out to Stephen King, who is a huge fan of the show?

Juliette was a big fan. What's that say about her? Flashback to pig-blood being poured on her head at the prom, perhaps? :lol

That's the book they were reading at the beginning, if you were paying close attention. ;)

[tankdan]

Alright, I've finished my marathon of rewatching seasons one and two, and i stayed up all night finishing season two just so i could watch the tape from last night...

So, I'm a little exhausted at the moment. Recap:

I rewatched the opening sequence a couple times. I agree with what's been said, that the 'earthquake' was Desmond failing to push the button, which also led to the plane crash. My question is this: Why did all of the Others look up at the sky as soon as they came outside? Were they expecting a plane crash after a System Failure? Most of the time, I think earthquake survivors come outside and look at their house or each other, not at the sky.
I also agree that Juliette looks alot like Desmond's lady-friend, but what can ya do?
FINALLY, we found out where the polar bear came from! Also, the shark with the Dharmo logo now has an explanation, too.
To me, it seems like The Others are just a bunch of sociologists still conducting their little experiment on human behavior or psychology ("You said Sawyer, then Jack," - Henry Gale).
How freaking huge is this island, anyway? Cmon, TWO sections of passengers, and neither of them came across the fake Others camp or the real Others "resort,"?
Finally, since Juliette said that the Dharma stuff was in the past, I wonder if they just left Desmond in the Swan solely to see how long he would last. Heck, it appears that at least someone was in the Pearl filling up those books, but they have since disappeared, so maybe the Dharma stuff just naturally pettered out and left Desmond uninformed.

Anyway, those are my thoughts. Wicked good episode, I'm just getting sick of the flashbacks. Just think of how much faster the plot would progress without the flashbacks!

Dan

P.S. If I were Jack, and my dad had been sleeping with my wife, I would have done a little more than just lunge at him...

[MacGuyver]

what sucks is that this season, i think anyway, is going to focus more on personal relationships rather than the actual plot line of the series.

[Beefsteak1138]

I'll have to rewatch this part, but I swore I heard Jack's dad's voice in that intercom thing he was messing around with....just a whisper right at the end of that scene.

[MacGuyver]

all i could think about when they showed the village was the part of the island that the losties couldn't cross because it was too rocky or something. so maybe the village is in there on purpose?

i just don't get the motives of the scientists. if they are 'good guys' then they are being pressured to treat the losties like animals. but who is doing the pressuring?

my vote goes to jacks dad. maybe he is in cahoots with deze's gf.

[MacGuyver]

Hmm. Now I wonder what "Carrie" has to do with anything or if it was just a random shout-out to Stephen King, who is a huge fan of the show?

Juliette was a big fan. What's that say about her? Flashback to pig-blood being poured on her head at the prom, perhaps? :lol

That's the book they were reading at the beginning, if you were paying close attention. ;)

i really doubt that the plot of carrie would have anything to do with the theme of the show. probably a big thumbs up to SK. i mean they probably picked that book because there's absolutely no chance anyone can make any sort of link to the show.

imagine if they showed Misery instead?? no parallels there!!! :lol

[twosteppinpun]

I'll have to rewatch this part, but I swore I heard Jack's dad's voice in that intercom thing he was messing around with....just a whisper right at the end of that scene.
It was dialogue from the previous scene.
I forget exactly what he said, but Jack might have been hallucinating.

[dre2142]

I'll have to rewatch this part, but I swore I heard Jack's dad's voice in that intercom thing he was messing around with....just a whisper right at the end of that scene.

It was his dad saying "Give it up"

The song that opened up for the show.....is also the same song that Desmond was listening to in the hatch

[MacGuyver]

uh i don't think so. this was downtown. desmonds was something by mama cass?

[dre2142]

Maybe Im not remembering correctly then

[dre2142]

Anyone notice that a lot of the trees around the Others compound arent tropical trees? Was the patient that Jack was tending to when he noticed his dad talking on teh phone and laughing the fake beared guy from the Others?

[MacGuyver]

or bernard. one of the two i'm sure.

[wolfdisney]

Too busy watching SOuth PArk after I've had the nine paused on dvr for the last half hour, now I'm gonna check that show out. By the by, how you doing Steve?
i missed it, heard it was about World of Warcraft, great game btw
I forgot SP started last night , ill have to dl tonight :p

[wolfdisney]

Was it just me or was there an excessive amounts of commericials?

And i turned off the nine cuz it blows.yes i felt that too like every 9-10 minutes, it was getting annoying

yeah started to watch nine its kinda slow

[wolfdisney]

Alright, I've finished my marathon of rewatching seasons one and two, and i stayed up all night finishing season two just so i could watch the tape from last night...

So, I'm a little exhausted at the moment. Recap:

I rewatched the opening sequence a couple times. I agree with what's been said, that the 'earthquake' was Desmond failing to push the button, which also led to the plane crash. My question is this: Why did all of the Others look up at the sky as soon as they came outside? Were they expecting a plane crash after a System Failure? Most of the time, I think earthquake survivors come outside and look at their house or each other, not at the sky.
I also agree that Juliette looks alot like Desmond's lady-friend, but what can ya do?
FINALLY, we found out where the polar bear came from! Also, the shark with the Dharmo logo now has an explanation, too.To me, it seems like The Others are just a bunch of sociologists still conducting their little experiment on human behavior or psychology ("You said Sawyer, then Jack," - Henry Gale).
How freaking huge is this island, anyway? Cmon, TWO sections of passengers, and neither of them came across the fake Others camp or the real Others "resort,"?
Finally, since Juliette said that the Dharma stuff was in the past, I wonder if they just left Desmond in the Swan solely to see how long he would last. Heck, it appears that at least someone was in the Pearl filling up those books, but they have since disappeared, so maybe the Dharma stuff just naturally pettered out and left Desmond uninformed.

Anyway, those are my thoughts. Wicked good episode, I'm just getting sick of the flashbacks. Just think of how much faster the plot would progress without the flashbacks!

Dan

P.S. If I were Jack, and my dad had been sleeping with my wife, I would have done a little more than just lunge at him...
O wow I forgot about those animals, :thumbsup

Good points, cant wait tile next week

[41ravens]

It was his dad saying "Give it up"

The song that opened up for the show.....is also the same song that Desmond was listening to in the hatch

different songs. this was "downtown", desmond's was "make your own kind of music", or something like that. they might be the same artist, however. i'll have to check.

i didn't backread, so i apologize if i'm repeating anything. it appears the others have formed some sort of utopian (sp?) society on the island and don't like intruders. it appears that they were not expecting the plane crash, but were prepared for what to do when it happened. i'm also guessing that the others were not part of the dharma initiative at all. i'm guessing they were there before that as well. i'm basing this on another theory i have in that the others are all a lot older than they look. we know the island has healing powers, so why couldn't it also have a fountain of youth type of thing going on. my guess is that the others have remained the same age from the time they arrived on the island. why, when or how they got there is still a huge question. another question is why no children? is that why they're only interested in kids? so glad the new season is under way.

[dsera]

It was his dad saying "Give it up"

The song that opened up for the show.....is also the same song that Desmond was listening to in the hatch
Nope it was Make Your Own Kind of Music that Desmond had on. :)

[GinaNMU]

It was his dad saying "Give it up"

The song that opened up for the show.....is also the same song that Desmond was listening to in the hatch

I'm pretty sure it was "let it go."

And for some reason, i have a feeling that Jack's dad may have a bigger role in the show and all of this than it seems right now. He's always brought up, connected to a bunch of people, they made it a point to show that nobody on the island was ever able to find his dead body after the crash...

Another thing I'm really confused about is what the hell the Others have been doing aside from burning muffins and joining book clubs! I mean, they're all hanging out in their houses, having a grand old time with no experiments going on anywhere (at least it doesn't seem like it)...then the plane crashes and right away all the craziness starts up?

So now I have a theory about Ben/Henry (let's call him Benry). Maybe all the experimentation died down or they stopped for whatever reason for awhile until the plane crashed. Juliet and Benry have something weird going on, and i think what Benry meant when he looked at Juliet and said, "I guess I won't be invited to book club anymore" was that Juliet was going to be mad at him after what he is about to do? Maybe? Because I for one actually LIKE Juliet and am excited to get to know her better. I have a feeling she may be switching sides...

[wolfdisney]

Benry :lol

[GinaNMU]

Benry :lol

ha...well the guy's got like 18 names now!! I dunno... :lol

[wolfdisney]

Hey that works for me, good thoughts too I love hearing peoples theroies and thoughts on this show it makes you think, I just hope they dont drag it on for years and then we are disappointed in the end
I love this show so much its one of the few shows that I am addicted too and HAVE too watch

[GinaNMU]

Hey that works for me, good thoughts too I love hearing peoples theroies and thoughts on this show it makes you think, I just hope they dont drag it on for years and then we are disappointed in the end

Actually I read an article that there are only going to be 5 seasons for that reason alone. Thet already know where they're going with it, and they don't want it to get dragged out. So really, only 2 more seasons after this one!

[dre2142]

I'm pretty sure it was "let it go."



Yeah, youre right. Im all over wrong today :)

[wolfdisney]

Actually I read an article that there are only going to be 5 seasons for that reason alone. Thet already know where they're going with it, and they don't want it to get dragged out. So really, only 2 more seasons after this one!


yeah i read that too, hopefully they keep its as good and fresh as they have been :)

[jmkratt]

Interesting ideas and theories going on in here, I like it.

But how do you guys explain the Other's knowledge and access to medication if they aren't somehow involved with Science?

And how does that communication box work in an Aquarium?

And what happened to the other prisoner? Was he a decoy Other?

Good start to the season thus far, but I feel as though we are left with more questions than before. That's the way this show goes, a question is answered by 10 more questions.

[clayj41]

I'm pretty sure it was "let it go."

And for some reason, i have a feeling that Jack's dad may have a bigger role in the show and all of this than it seems right now. He's always brought up, connected to a bunch of people, they made it a point to show that nobody on the island was ever able to find his dead body after the crash...

Another thing I'm really confused about is what the hell the Others have been doing aside from burning muffins and joining book clubs! I mean, they're all hanging out in their houses, having a grand old time with no experiments going on anywhere (at least it doesn't seem like it)...then the plane crashes and right away all the craziness starts up?

So now I have a theory about Ben/Henry (let's call him Benry). Maybe all the experimentation died down or they stopped for whatever reason for awhile until the plane crashed. Juliet and Benry have something weird going on, and i think what Benry meant when he looked at Juliet and said, "I guess I won't be invited to book club anymore" was that Juliet was going to be mad at him after what he is about to do? Maybe? Because I for one actually LIKE Juliet and am excited to get to know her better. I have a feeling she may be switching sides...

I also subscribe to the idea that Jack's dad is gonna play a bigger role.

[clayj41]

And what happened to the other prisoner? Was he a decoy Other?

I thought he was a decoy at first too, until they brought him back all bloodied. I'm sure we'll find out who he was. Maybe one of the survivors from the other side of the island who was kidnapped within those first few nights?

[jmkratt]

I also subscribe to the idea that Jack's dad is gonna play a bigger role.

Yeah he is awfully involved for a deceased character.

[jmkratt]

I thought he was a decoy at first too, until they brought him back all bloodied. I'm sure we'll find out who he was. Maybe one of the survivors from the other side of the island who was kidnapped within those first few nights?

Yeah maybe one from the tailend of the plane? Jack, Sawyer, and Kate don't know them so it's very possible.

The whole scene was a bit odd for me though. Guess we'll find out!

[twosteppinpun]

I thought he was a decoy at first too, until they brought him back all bloodied. I'm sure we'll find out who he was. Maybe one of the survivors from the other side of the island who was kidnapped within those first few nights?
Everything that happened to them was planned. The others know a lot about them and how to handle them. The escaping man was put there to show Sawyer that escape is impossible. Kate, Jack and Sawyer were all handled differently based on their personalities.

[wolfdisney]

Hmmm this is kind of a goof

I was wondering what cd that she put in in the begining when watching it last night because it had no label then "Downtown" came on which I know and heard before but not sure who sang it.

So curiousity getting the best of me I'm rewatching the episode now, she actually grabs the Talking Heads Cd "Speaking in Tongues" but puts in the Dual Disc of Son Volt "Okemah And The Melody Of Riot" (2005) (based on sku number on inner label) but the song "Downtown" plays from Petula Clark ( i had to look up her name :p )

:lol hee hee

I love tv/movie goofs

[wolfdisney]

...


I rewatched the opening sequence a couple times. I agree with what's been said, that the 'earthquake' was Desmond failing to push the button, which also led to the plane crash. My question is this: Why did all of the Others look up at the sky as soon as they came outside? Were they expecting a plane crash after a System Failure? Most of the time, I think earthquake survivors come outside and look at their house or each other, not at the sky.
I also agree that Juliette looks alot like Desmond's lady-friend, but what can ya do?
......



I was rewatching that too ,they actually dont all look up at first, they do have concern for others and look around at each other, and "Benry" looks up first then the rest follow, but right before the plane flies overhead and breaks apart, they prolly just heard the plane coming from a distance causing them to look up

[MikeSp03]

where can i download this episode?

[wolfdisney]

abc.com has it where you can watch right now
but to download and keep usually on tv torrent sites

www.eztvefnet.org/

is a good site, very organized and you can search for some older ones

[CornellDMBfan]

different songs. this was "downtown", desmond's was "make your own kind of music", or something like that. they might be the same artist, however. i'll have to check.

i didn't backread, so i apologize if i'm repeating anything. it appears the others have formed some sort of utopian (sp?) society on the island and don't like intruders. it appears that they were not expecting the plane crash, but were prepared for what to do when it happened. i'm also guessing that the others were not part of the dharma initiative at all. i'm guessing they were there before that as well. i'm basing this on another theory i have in that the others are all a lot older than they look. we know the island has healing powers, so why couldn't it also have a fountain of youth type of thing going on. my guess is that the others have remained the same age from the time they arrived on the island. why, when or how they got there is still a huge question. another question is why no children? is that why they're only interested in kids? so glad the new season is under way.
I think they knocked up Kate so they could get another kid

[joepsu0985]

I think they knocked up Kate so they could get another kid

yep i was thinking that also. Well thinking they raped her because of the cuts from the cuffs. Are these people all related then on that island? Why else would they need an outsider to reproduce?

Im thinking that all these people found this island becasue somethign horrible happend to them in a prior life time. They just needed to get out of society. Im still confused on how they got all that information. I dont think this is some study. I dont know what to think actually.

[TwoStep2888]

"Jack, whatever you do, don't open that ominous-looking door that even we Others are afraid of."

*Jack opens door*

:BANG What an arrogant douche. :lol

[tankdan]

Personally, I think that Henry reacted in such a speedy manner in sending out Goodwin and Ethan that he/they MUST have been expecting a plane crash sooner or later, especially because they knew Desmond/replacement would eventually give up.

Still makes you wonder about Rousseau, though. How did SHE get there, for real, and does anything from last night help fill in holes in her story?

I think there is definitely something going on with the children, and it's more than just some sociologists or utopians. Some of these folks are legit scientists (recall Claire's episodes), and I still think that ALL of the Others are connected to the Dharma folks.

Just to vent:
WHAT IS UP WITH THE BLACK SMOKE MONSTER!? AHHHHH, I want more answers!

Let's see, what else...
Oh, I hope that Jack/Sawyer/Kate's captivity doesn't drag on too long, because that could get old very quickly.

My biggest question right now, actually, is whether or not we'll get flashbacks/episodes for any of the Others, like Henry or Juliette?

Dan

[twosteppinpun]

My biggest question right now, actually, is whether or not we'll get flashbacks/episodes for any of the Others, like Henry or Juliette?
That would make things quite interesting.

[jmkratt]

I was thinking about Kate being knocked up.

If that were true why would they lock her in a cage outside? Wouldn't they want their child protected? Or is the cage supposed to be the protection, and if so, wouldn't they want to properly nourish Kate?

And I agree, WTF happened to the smoke monster?

And will we see Walt and Michael again this season? That whole departure still seems funny to me.

[joepsu0985]

We would have too...Who is left at their camp?

[joepsu0985]

I was thinking about Kate being knocked up.

If that were true why would they lock her in a cage outside? Wouldn't they want their child protected? Or is the cage supposed to be the protection, and if so, wouldn't they want to properly nourish Kate?

And I agree, WTF happened to the smoke monster?

And will we see Walt and Michael again this season? That whole departure still seems funny to me.

They obvously knocked kate up, but who did it. It wasnt the dude she sat down to eat breakfast with. Well we dont know that. We dont know for sure she got knocked up either, maybe she put up a fight to escape. I wonder what he meant when he told her "these next two weeks will be rough"

[tankdan]

I think all this talk about Kate being preggo is pretty off-the-wall.

The one thing I want to know is: Is Sun preggo with Michael's baby, or with Jin's? Remember, Jin was the sterile one in the relationship, and, aside from the obvious response that "the island has special healing powers," there was quite a long time there where Sun and Michael were pretty close, even if Jin and Sun did eventually kiss and make up.

I want Locke and Mr. Ecko to unleash some WHOOP ASS on the Others. "Don't you think it's a little weird that your Jesus stick has dried blood on it?" - Charlie

Also, will Claire, Bernard, Rose, and Hurley do anything heroic this season, or just be same old same old? I would love it if Hurley lost some weight, and I would love for the numbers to be explained a little more.

Anyway.

Dan

[jmkratt]

Yeah, I wonder how long it will be until we find out what happened to Kate and why she had bloody wrists.

Did we ever find out what that big monster was that killed the pilot? Was it the cloud thing? I know that was back in Season 1, but I can't remember.

And with the whole Rousseau (or however you spell it) and the "sickness" - what happened to that?

I really wasn't looking forward to this season like I was for season 2, but now I am back in the thick of it again, damn show.

[jmkratt]

I want Locke and Mr. Ecko to unleash some WHOOP ASS on the Others. "Don't you think it's a little weird that your Jesus stick has dried blood on it?" - Charlie

Hell yes :thumbsup

[TwoStep2888]

I want Locke and Mr. Ecko to unleash some WHOOP ASS on the Others. "Don't you think it's a little weird that your Jesus stick has dried blood on it?" - Charlie

Season 1 Locke. I didn't like him last season, when he was obsessed with what Jack was doing, and being in control of the guns and the hatch. It was annoying.

If Locke's still the lame Season 2 Verison of Locke, then Sayid and Eko can go whoop ass. Sayid's just as badass as anybody.

[jmkratt]

Season 1 Locke. I didn't like him last season, when he was obsessed with what Jack was doing, and being in control of the guns and the hatch. It was annoying.

If Locke's still the lame Season 2 Verison of Locke, then Sayid and Eko can go whoop ass. Sayid's just as badass as anybody.

Good point. Sayid is a badass too. I would like to see how much he can wreck shop on the Other's faces. :thumbsup

[TwoStep2888]

Good point. Sayid is a badass too. I would like to see how much he can wreck shop on the Other's faces. :thumbsup

I'd love a Henry Gail/Sayid rematch. And Eko can beat down evrybody else.

Gotta love the Jesus Stick.

:waaaaaaaaaaaalt

[tdowe99]

The song y'all are thinking of is when Jack is sitting in the car, it's the same Hawaiian music as when Sayid and Hurley listen on that radio.

[GinaNMU]

The song y'all are thinking of is when Jack is sitting in the car, it's the same Hawaiian music as when Sayid and Hurley listen on that radio.

Here I don't know if anyone has posted this yet, but this is AWESOME.

http://lostpedia.com/wiki/A_Tale_of_Two_Cities

Makes a bunch of connections for you, talks about theories at the bottom of the page, some stuff about the music.

[clayj41]

"Jack, whatever you do, don't open that ominous-looking door that even we Others are afraid of."

*Jack opens door*

:BANG What an arrogant douche. :lol

Arrogant douche.....or total Badass!:p

[TwoStep2888]

Arrogant douche.....or total Badass!:p

:lol Maybe. That's a difference in opinion.

[clayj41]

Everything that happened to them was planned. The others know a lot about them and how to handle them. The escaping man was put there to show Sawyer that escape is impossible. Kate, Jack and Sawyer were all handled differently based on their personalities.

Why did they beat the shit out of the guy then?

[tdowe99]

"Take one for the team, Karl." :lol

[tankdan]

Every once in a while, I try to imagine how it all will end. What will be the answer to all the questions? Would I be satisfied if the island was just an island with a bunch of people on it? Woudl I be satisfied if the island was in a temporal wormhole and noone can ever leave it?

What are your thoughts? Has anyone come up with a solution that would actually satisfy your hopes?

Dan

[SteelerMan]

Every once in a while, I try to imagine how it all will end. What will be the answer to all the questions? Would I be satisfied if the island was just an island with a bunch of people on it? Woudl I be satisfied if the island was in a temporal wormhole and noone can ever leave it?

What are your thoughts? Has anyone come up with a solution that would actually satisfy your hopes?

Dan

Well, if one of the solutions I came up with actually happened, I'd probably be pretty disappointed just because I wasn't surprised.

[MVDMB]

I wanna know if the producers have it all planned through, or if they are making everything up as they go...

[SteelerMan]

I wanna know if the producers have it all planned through, or if they are making everything up as they go...

That's my theory. I also believe they pay close attention to what fans are saying on the internet... I believe the "it's all in Hurley's mind" episode was a direct response to one of the popular theories people were coming up with at the time. I also sometimes wonder if the writers go back and watch old episodes looking for minor details that seemed immaterial at the time and finding a way to make them important later in the series to make themselves look smart.

[joepsu0985]

I wonder if Locke has to deal with any of the philosopher stuff...You know John Locke (SP). I have a book I can look into it. It might give us a hint...who knows..these writers are going to admit they are on drugs when this show is over....so let them have their fun adn we will have ours...

[MVDMB]

That's my theory. I also believe they pay close attention to what fans are saying on the internet... I believe the "it's all in Hurley's mind" episode was a direct response to one of the popular theories people were coming up with at the time. I also sometimes wonder if the writers go back and watch old episodes looking for minor details that seemed immaterial at the time and finding a way to make them important later in the series to make themselves look smart.


I don't believe the it's all in Hurley's mind theory at all. I believe the snowglobe theory, and that something is blocking everybody from getting out, except going exactly at the right compass location or whatever.

[Dr. Strangelove]

i didn't think that was very revealing at all.
Oh, what do you know, newb!? :p

Well, we learned where the polar bear came from (at least we can assume) as well as the shark.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Why did they beat the shit out of the guy then?
We never saw them beat him up. They are rather fond of makeup. We know this.

Also, remember the person underneath the house fixing the plumbing or whatever at the beginning? Wasn't that him?

[tankdan]

We never saw them beat him up. They are rather fond of makeup. We know this.

Also, remember the person underneath the house fixing the plumbing or whatever at the beginning? Wasn't that him?

I believe the person underneath the house was Ethan.

I keep rewatching the plane split in middair. That is the most exciting moment in Lost history, in my opinion.

Dan

[Dr. Strangelove]

I believe the person underneath the house was Ethan.

I keep rewatching the plane split in middair. That is the most exciting moment in Lost history, in my opinion.

Dan
Yeah, you're right. I just rewatched it.

[siouxsiesue]

I'm so mad that I didn't tape it. I would love to watch that opening sequence again.

[Dr. Strangelove]

I'm so mad that I didn't tape it. I would love to watch that opening sequence again.
Streaming on official site: http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing

If you want to download it: http://www.mininova.org/tor/443618

;)

[siouxsiesue]

Streaming on official site: http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing

If you want to download it: http://www.mininova.org/tor/443618

;)

Nice. Thank you, my dear. ;)

[clayj41]

We never saw them beat him up. They are rather fond of makeup. We know this.

Also, remember the person underneath the house fixing the plumbing or whatever at the beginning? Wasn't that him?

I don't know if that was him but I still find it odd. Oh well, I'm sure it'll get explained.

[Dr. Strangelove]

I don't know if that was him but I still find it odd. Oh well, I'm sure it'll get explained.
It wasn't him. It was Ethan, as someone else said.

[dh4645]

So now I have a theory about Ben/Henry (let's call him Benry). Maybe all the experimentation died down or they stopped for whatever reason for awhile until the plane crashed. Juliet and Benry have something weird going on, and i think what Benry meant when he looked at Juliet and said, "I guess I won't be invited to book club anymore" was that Juliet was going to be mad at him after what he is about to do? Maybe? Because I for one actually LIKE Juliet and am excited to get to know her better. I have a feeling she may be switching sides...

i think he just said that because they were having the book club meeting and he was obviously not there/invited. so maybe he did something before to have juliet not invite him.

they did have a weird moment when they had jack in that cell...when benry said something about doing a good job and they just stared at each other.