LOST (the tv show)

[clayj41]

Btw, from watching these s4 previews, does anyone get the feeling that we might very well catch up to last season's flash forward in real time this season? Meaning that future event with Jack and Kate, that will be happening in "the present" sometime within season 4? I have a funny feeling it will.

I'd say that's a fair assumption. Like you said, the previews haven't definitely made it seem that way.

[junior94]

I'd say that's a fair assumption. Like you said, the previews haven't definitely made it seem that way.

Yea I mean, at the risk of possibly taking things too literally, at the end of that "Lost in 8:15" video up on the site, the narrator did say after all "So there you have it. Some will leave, some will not, find out who in 2008".

It's just the thing I'm getting especially excited about is the prospect that after the way the entire show's been set up these first 3 seasons, how cool it would be if the actual inhabitation of the island in the immediate present of post-crash was only really the beginning, and that there's a ton of stuff to go down after several Losties get their way off that rock... and that's the feeling I'm getting from the previews.

(or maybe I'm just missing my show so damn much and withdrawaling with delusions of grandeur :o :D )

[taparoo]

New video up on http://www.flyoceanicair.com/

http://www.find815.com/site/index.php

[lostacoustics]

Saw a preview for the new season on TV tonight!!! YES! It's finally back!!

[ant_marching41]

Btw, from watching these s4 previews, does anyone get the feeling that we might very well catch up to last season's flash forward in real time this season? Meaning that future event with Jack and Kate, that will be happening in "the present" sometime within season 4? I have a funny feeling it will.
I was just thinking of this today. I wanna say either this season or next season will end with that exact scene.

[DMBZeppelin]

Saw a preview for the new season on TV tonight!!! YES! It's finally back!!
It's only going to be 8 episodes. They didn't even plan it this way, but there's a cliff hanger at the end of the 8th episode. So they said a lot of fans will probably get mad.

[Talula62]

Come now. No one gives a crap if there are only 8 episodes. Better than nothing.

[junior94]

Come now. No one gives a crap if there are only 8 episodes. Better than nothing.

Yea and ya never know, we may get lucky and the strike could get resolved relatively soon, and we could wind up with all 16 eps within 2008. I'm not sure what the deal is with the current set up that if the strike were settled tomorrow, would they still stick to the 8 straight and then taking a break. But if I remember correctly, they've got most if not all of the footage for up to I think ep 12 or maybe even 14 in the can, just not entirely finished yet. So, I'm thinking if this thing gets settled soon, maybe we'd still have to deal with an episode 8 cliffhanger, but then we'd get the back 8 come this fall... ?

[tosssweep]

I hope the strike gets resolved in a week and Lost only has to take a couple weeks off before adding the final 8 episodes of S4... but I'm just a wishful thinker!! :p

[boarderx5423]

New video up on http://www.flyoceanicair.com/

http://www.find815.com/site/index.php

Just started doing this today. :thumbsup

[taparoo]

I just finished the backpack re-arrange thing on abc.com after finding the clues from seasons 1-3 and got the s4 clue/password (spiolered below)

s4 password: MATTHEW

...which gives you the Oceanic Hotline
888-548-0034

[junior94]

http://www.find815.com/site/index.php


Has anybody been able to figure out what the difference is between the two photos of this Sonya chick? I thought maybe it was the mole on her lip, that only the bigger photo had it, but I tried clicking on it and nothing happened. For that matter I just started mouse clicking all over the damn place to land on something, but got bupkus.

[@drian]

I'm not sure if this has been posted, I thought it would have been but after a few Google searches I can't find anything about it. Anyways I'm re-watching season 3 and I stumbled upon something that I thought was pretty cool.

Here's a screen cap from season 3 episode 8, it's from the scene when Desmond is talking to the woman who was going to sell him an engagement ring, but she won't sell it to him because he isn't suppose to marry Penny.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6755/vlcsnap2141781oj4.png

And here are two screen caps from season 3 episode 17, it's from the scene when Desmond is turning in his Monk uniform.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4330/vlcsnap2136826lm7.png
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/4569/vlcsnap2139162cf0.png

Anyways I thought it was pretty cool. It's funny because whoever put the photo together didn't really try too hard to make it look like the two of them were photographed together.

[junior94]

I'm not sure if this has been posted, I thought it would have been but after a few Google searches I can't find anything about it. Anyways I'm re-watching season 3 and I stumbled upon something that I thought was pretty cool.

Here's a screen cap from season 3 episode 8, it's from the scene when Desmond is talking to the woman who was going to sell him an engagement ring, but she won't sell it to him because he isn't suppose to marry Penny.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6755/vlcsnap2141781oj4.png

And here are two screen caps from season 3 episode 17, it's from the scene when Desmond is turning in his Monk uniform.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4330/vlcsnap2136826lm7.png
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/4569/vlcsnap2139162cf0.png

Anyways I thought it was pretty cool. It's funny because whoever put the photo together didn't really try too hard to make it look like the two of them were photographed together.

Yep, this was brought up right after the episode was originally broadcast, and a lot of us wondered if the picture was intentionally supposed to look like it was a fake as it was so terribly obvious a bad Photoshop job.

[GinaNMU]

Has anybody been able to figure out what the difference is between the two photos of this Sonya chick? I thought maybe it was the mole on her lip, that only the bigger photo had it, but I tried clicking on it and nothing happened. For that matter I just started mouse clicking all over the damn place to land on something, but got bupkus.

My boyfriend is all over this find815 game thing. He was playing with it for like an hour the other night. Apparently if you zoom in super close to the mole, it says "black rock." Is that what you're talking about? I'm not exactly sure what the point of it is, but apparently that's a "clue?"

[junior94]

My boyfriend is all over this find815 game thing. He was playing with it for like an hour the other night. Apparently if you zoom in super close to the mole, it says "black rock." Is that what you're talking about? I'm not exactly sure what the point of it is, but apparently that's a "clue?"

Oh. Well I don't know anything specifically. I just know the instructions tell you to use the zoom feature to look at the photo closer because there's a difference between the one in the email and the one on his desk, and that if you see something unusual, to try clicking on it. And after a cursory look over the photo the only thing possible that jumped out to me was the mole, but again, putting my mouse over it and clicking it didn't do anything, but I didn't zoom in on it THAT closely, certainly not to see it say "Black rock" on it (I guess I was thinking they meant that like another window or something was going to pop up when you clicked on the thing that was out of place).

Btw, we got a healthy amount of new information by way of Matthew Fox here. The next EW issue is the Winter TV Preview and he's the cover story, there's a long interview with him (some spoilery material!)

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20169281,00.html

[GinaNMU]

Btw, we got a healthy amount of new information by way of Matthew Fox here. The next EW issue is the Winter TV Preview and he's the cover story, there's a long interview with him (some spoilery material!)

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20169281,00.html

:thumbsup Yup, just picked it up yesterday! Good read.

[ant_marching41]

Yep, this was brought up right after the episode was originally broadcast, and a lot of us wondered if the picture was intentionally supposed to look like it was a fake as it was so terribly obvious a bad Photoshop job.
Looks like a mugshot and a screen shot from "Flashes". Almost as pathetic as the shot of the polar bear running away from Locke in "Further Instructions." :lol

My boyfriend is all over this find815 game thing. He was playing with it for like an hour the other night. Apparently if you zoom in super close to the mole, it says "black rock." Is that what you're talking about? I'm not exactly sure what the point of it is, but apparently that's a "clue?"

:lol How lame. I gave that 10 minutes of my time before giving up on it. Same deal as Kevin.


Btw, we got a healthy amount of new information by way of Matthew Fox here. The next EW issue is the Winter TV Preview and he's the cover story, there's a long interview with him (some spoilery material!)

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20169281,00.html

Just read it today. Great read. Very interesting to get his take on some of the stand out lines from the season 3 finale such as "You get my father down here and if he's drunker than I am.. and so on."

Good stuff

[smeritt]

Blah I'm two discs away from rewatching all the seasons this break

[crushmebaby.]

Holy shit, that's impressive!

[smeritt]

Holy shit, that's impressive!I could have been done tonight but me and my friends want to get hammered while watching the Season 3 finale. We have gone through Season 2 and will be done with Season 3 from literally last sunday maybe a day or two before. Gotta love being home from college and getting no hours at work.....


But I have a big question. I don't know if this has been brought up before or not, Richard, never gets old. He is seen on Ben's flashback as a hostile and is not basically his right hand man in real time. How does he never get old? Are all the hostiles like this? What does this mean about the island? Any speculation?

[junior94]

But I have a big question. I don't know if this has been brought up before or not, Richard, never gets old. He is seen on Ben's flashback as a hostile and is not basically his right hand man in real time. How does he never get old? Are all the hostiles like this? What does this mean about the island? Any speculation?

Oh yea don't worry that definitely wasn't missed ;) :D We were ALL OVER that one as soon as that ep aired new that night. It's easily become one of the biggest and most interesting mysteries introduced late in season 3.

[smeritt]

Oh yea don't worry that definitely wasn't missed ;) :D We were ALL OVER that one as soon as that ep aired new that night. It's easily become one of the biggest and most interesting mysteries introduced late in season 3.
Any theories as to where he gets the eye liner he over uses?

[tankdan]

Just a delayed thought I had after reading that Matthew Fox article/interview.

Remember the episode with the Nikki and Paolo and the paralyzing snake bite? Well, when that episode aired I thought for sure that they wouldn't really be dead permanently. I was shocked when the episode ended and they were actually buried alive and then nothing else was mentioned in the next episode. It seemed like something that Lost would do to set up a glimpse into the healing powers of the Island.

Anyway, Matthew Fox said in that interview something along the lines of "we experimented with bringing in people who had always been on the Island since the crash but we hadn't seen before, and that experiment failed." Do you agree that this was a direct reference to Nikki and Paolo?

Assuming it is, do you view that episode as one of the quirky, independent type of episodes that don't contribute anything to the storyline (like Jack's Tattoo episode)? Do you think less of that episode knowing that it was just an attempt by the writers to see how new Crashies would fare?

Just something I've been pondering. That episode bugs me more and more since I read that interview. Why did they have to kill Nikki and Paolo?

Dan

[GinaNMU]

But I have a big question. I don't know if this has been brought up before or not, Richard, never gets old. He is seen on Ben's flashback as a hostile and is not basically his right hand man in real time. How does he never get old? Are all the hostiles like this? What does this mean about the island? Any speculation?

Oh yea don't worry that definitely wasn't missed ;) :D We were ALL OVER that one as soon as that ep aired new that night. It's easily become one of the biggest and most interesting mysteries introduced late in season 3.

Good evidence to this and the fact that it WILL get brought up again is that line Ben said in his birthday episode. Ben says, "Today is my birthday... you DO remember birthdays, don't you Richard?"

Thought that was a pretty decent insight into the fact that something is definitely going on with him. Some kind of "fountain of youth" type of effect/source on the island? Hmmmm.

[Heavy As Stone]

Just a delayed thought I had after reading that Matthew Fox article/interview.

Remember the episode with the Nikki and Paolo and the paralyzing snake bite? Well, when that episode aired I thought for sure that they wouldn't really be dead permanently. I was shocked when the episode ended and they were actually buried alive and then nothing else was mentioned in the next episode. It seemed like something that Lost would do to set up a glimpse into the healing powers of the Island.

Anyway, Matthew Fox said in that interview something along the lines of "we experimented with bringing in people who had always been on the Island since the crash but we hadn't seen before, and that experiment failed." Do you agree that this was a direct reference to Nikki and Paolo?

Assuming it is, do you view that episode as one of the quirky, independent type of episodes that don't contribute anything to the storyline (like Jack's Tattoo episode)? Do you think less of that episode knowing that it was just an attempt by the writers to see how new Crashies would fare?

Just something I've been pondering. That episode bugs me more and more since I read that interview. Why did they have to kill Nikki and Paolo?

Dan

I'm pretty sure he was referring to Nikki and Paolo. I am also pretty sure that it was just a stand-alone episode. You have to admit though - they went out in a blaze of glory.

They killed them off because nobody gave a shit about them or wanted to.

[joepsu0985]

Just a delayed thought I had after reading that Matthew Fox article/interview.

Remember the episode with the Nikki and Paolo and the paralyzing snake bite? Well, when that episode aired I thought for sure that they wouldn't really be dead permanently. I was shocked when the episode ended and they were actually buried alive and then nothing else was mentioned in the next episode. It seemed like something that Lost would do to set up a glimpse into the healing powers of the Island.

Anyway, Matthew Fox said in that interview something along the lines of "we experimented with bringing in people who had always been on the Island since the crash but we hadn't seen before, and that experiment failed." Do you agree that this was a direct reference to Nikki and Paolo?

Assuming it is, do you view that episode as one of the quirky, independent type of episodes that don't contribute anything to the storyline (like Jack's Tattoo episode)? Do you think less of that episode knowing that it was just an attempt by the writers to see how new Crashies would fare?

Just something I've been pondering. That episode bugs me more and more since I read that interview. Why did they have to kill Nikki and Paolo?

Dan

It was a spider bite. And no doubt. Theough it is interesting that he knew the others were watching the losties.

[Talula62]

Definitely a Nikki and Paolo reference. D&C talked about the failure of Nikki and Paolo too.

And yep, I do view the episode and the entire Nikki and Paolo storyline as a blip. Writers make mistakes and Nikki and Paolo were mistakes. The other episodes that aired around that time, like Jack's Tattoos, seemed pretty flipping worthless too.

Though of course the tattoos tie into something else but that doesn't mean it still wasn't a stupid and boring episode. :lol

[DMBand520]

I'm pretty sure he was referring to Nikki and Paolo. I am also pretty sure that it was just a stand-alone episode. You have to admit though - they went out in a blaze of glory.

They killed them off because nobody gave a shit about them or wanted to.

Nikki and Paolo were a waste but I liked their episode just b/c you got to see a recap of lots of stuff that happened since the crash from a different perspective.

[smeritt]

I'm pretty sure he was referring to Nikki and Paolo. I am also pretty sure that it was just a stand-alone episode. You have to admit though - they went out in a blaze of glory.

They killed them off because nobody gave a shit about them or wanted to.
Couldn't they have just killed Paolo? Damn Nikki was hot. Like really hot.

[@drian]

Couldn't they have just killed Paolo? Damn Nikki was hot. Like really hot.

The stripper scene for "Expose" was amazing, like amazing massive side cleavage. Anyways if you're character is being killed off, you can't complain with that episode.

I know this must have been brought up, but why the fuck did Charlie lock himself in the control room? And then after the explosion why didn't he open the door?

Did he essentially just kill himself because he knew he was going to get it sooner or later?

[ant_marching41]

Nikki and Paolo were a waste but I liked their episode just b/c you got to see a recap of lots of stuff that happened since the crash from a different perspective.
Seeing Boone and Shannon, Ethan, and Arnst again was a treat, as well as seeing their perspective of the plane crash and other stand out scenes from S1.

The commentary on the episode is pretty cool.

For those reasons, the episode was a good one and definitely not as worthless as Jack's Tatoo episode and Further Instructions (IMO one of the worst episodes of the series).

[ant_marching41]

http://tv.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=291957&GT1=7703

She's free.

[Talula62]

I know this must have been brought up, but why the fuck did Charlie lock himself in the control room? And then after the explosion why didn't he open the door?

Did he essentially just kill himself because he knew he was going to get it sooner or later?
Seems like we did talk about it a bit and basically figured that he thought he HAD to die in order for Claire and Aaron to be rescued.

[UCFish]

There is an interesting interview with Michael Emerson (Ben) on IGN.com. Decent read.

Picked up Lost Season 3 on Blu-Ray and it looks FANTASTIC!!

[Route_2]

21 days until Lost returns.

[tosssweep]

Seeing Boone and Shannon, Ethan, and Arnst again was a treat, as well as seeing their perspective of the plane crash and other stand out scenes from S1.

The commentary on the episode is pretty cool.

For those reasons, the episode was a good one and definitely not as worthless as Jack's Tatoo episode and Further Instructions (IMO one of the worst episodes of the series).

I'm a fan of Further Instructions because of the mind-trip that Locke induces on himself. As far as the island events of having to "rescue" Eko from the polar bears... nothing great.

[UNLTrpt]

I thought we deduced that the Nikki/Paulo episode was kind of a "told you so" episode by the writers. IIRC, people were clamoring for stories about other people on the island. They wrote that episode to say "see...its not really that interesting" I dunno.

[junior94]

Definitely a Nikki and Paolo reference. D&C talked about the failure of Nikki and Paolo too.

And yep, I do view the episode and the entire Nikki and Paolo storyline as a blip. Writers make mistakes and Nikki and Paolo were mistakes. The other episodes that aired around that time, like Jack's Tattoos, seemed pretty flipping worthless too.

Exactly. It was a legit try by those guys to infuse something else into the show, but it failed on a monumental level and they totally owned up to it.

Nikki and Paolo were a waste but I liked their episode just b/c you got to see a recap of lots of stuff that happened since the crash from a different perspective.

Yea as much as overall I certainly was not a fan of the glimmer twins either, their flashback episode had a novelty to it that I liked and as I said I think even back after it originally aired, I called it the "Forrest Gump" episode of LOST. That is, you had all this established history (albeit a short island history here versus about a half century of American history in that) with lots of big landmark events that were already known to you, but you now this way got the opportunity to see them thru the eyes of these other characters, sometimes even N&P (like Forrest) practically happening upon them accidentally :p

The stripper scene for "Expose" was amazing, like amazing massive side cleavage. Anyways if you're character is being killed off, you can't complain with that episode.

Meh. Sure I can see why others would get a chubby over Nikki, but for me she never really did much of anything.


I know this must have been brought up, but why the fuck did Charlie lock himself in the control room? And then after the explosion why didn't he open the door?

Did he essentially just kill himself because he knew he was going to get it sooner or later?

Even though once the events had actually started to play out there in Charlie's eyes there was a certain contained logic that seemed to indicate he could now accomplish what they needed in a pratical sense but still get to walk away unscathed (like many pointed out after seeing the scene in the finale), it seemed clear to me that with how much Charlie loved and cared about Claire, he basically for lack of better phrasing he didn't wanna take any chances with "fate", that he knew (having total faith in Desmond's visions) that if he sacrificed himself, it meant unequivocally that Claire & Aaron would get saved off the island, and given that he'd already seemed to make peace with the idea of dying... well, even though it can be argued that the chance then presented itself for him to still get outta there alive with the mission accomplished, he decided to die anyway.

[junior94]

Seems like we did talk about it a bit and basically figured that he thought he HAD to die in order for Claire and Aaron to be rescued.

Okay whoops, sorry mama.. somehow I missed this post of yours, so now my reply on the Charlie thing probably seems a tad redundant :p :lol



and repetitive, too.

:evil

I thought we deduced that the Nikki/Paulo episode was kind of a "told you so" episode by the writers. IIRC, people were clamoring for stories about other people on the island. They wrote that episode to say "see...its not really that interesting" I dunno.

Hmm... no, not sure where you're getting that from. But no believe me, these are professional filmmakers and with a major network show here, they're not gonna spend all that production money just to do something sort of out of spite to the audience or anything, sorta the way you describe it. Nah like I said, they genuinely were trying to flesh out the concept of survivors that had been there the entire time, we just hadn't "met them" yet, but again, it failed miserably, and they as writers learned from it.

[clcfball11]

wow, cant believe I just found this thread! This is my favorite show of all time! I dont feel like skimming through 300 pages, but have you guys checked out the extended trailer for season 4 on youtube or anything? It looks incredible! And, being an enormous LOST nerd, I paused the trailer at the split second they seem to show "Jacob", and it is absolutely no doubt Jack's father, Christian Shepherd. Just thought Id throw that out there, and I sincerely apologize if that topic has already been beat to death in this thread. And dont yell at me for spoiling anything, the trailer is on ABC! And did you guys see the issue of entertainment weekly with the matthew fox interview? He said "I think these next 3 seasons are going to be even better than the first three..there is going to be some truly mind blowing shit." I am so excited for it to start!!!

[smeritt]

Just watched Season 3 Finale, makes me love the show even more. Quick question though. What are the theories on who's boat is really out there? Penelope's father?

[@drian]

Just watched Season 3 Finale, makes me love the show even more. Quick question though. What are the theories on who's boat is really out there? Penelope's father?

I'm sure is has nothing to do with Penny. But yah that finale is sick, "We have to go BACK!" gives me chills.

[tgg5014]

Hey everyone

I've been lurking around these boards since like 2003 under various different names because I always forget my password and I never really have much to say. Anyway, I'm rewatching season 3 in preparation for the coming season, and I just finished watching Flashes Before Your Eyes. I gotta say, I'm still thoroughly confused as to what is really going on with Desmond. Anybody have any insight? I understand the part about him having flashes about the future, but is he really living his life over and over again?

[MacGuyver]

One of the theories out there is...... time travel. Which would explain a lot.... i just really hope they stay away from that. Its such a cop out!

[@drian]

One of the theories out there is...... time travel. Which would explain a lot.... i just really hope they stay away from that. Its such a cop out!

Psychic powers have been hinted at quite a few times; Walt, Claire being told to give the baby to a family in LA, and now Desmond.

I'm pretty sure I've heard Cuse say that everything has a scientific explanation, although I can't see that being true.

[MacGuyver]

Adrian, long time no see. What happened to that cute girl in your avatar, she was way better looking.

there is no way they can explain everything with a scientific answer after what we've seen. Smoky for instance, and never mind desmond's clairvoyance.

[@drian]

Adrian, long time no see. What happened to that cute girl in your avatar, she was way better looking.

Hey there, well that cute girl is now my wife :hump

there is no way they can explain everything with a scientific answer after what we've seen. Smoky for instance, and never mind desmond's clairvoyance.

Yah it's going to be pretty impossible to explain everything within a scientific realm. Especially since they ruled out nanobots.

[junior94]

I'm pretty sure I've heard Cuse say that everything has a scientific explanation, although I can't see that being true.

Yea I'm 99.9% sure I recall them saying that way back in the first season, but honestly I can't possibly imagine how that could still be the case (& it's not like they really did mean it back then, but with what's happened since it would've changed, since as we know they've had the major outline of the whole show mapped out since day 1). I do'nt mind there being a sci-fi, supernatural element(s) being involved, as long as I guess it's kept in moderation.

See there's a great quote I heard once about the genre:

The great thing about the world of sci-fi is that anything can happen. The problem is, it usually does.

[Route_2]

Yah it's going to be pretty impossible to explain everything within a scientific realm. Especially since they ruled out nanobots.

I've recently been relistening to the official podcasts with Damon and Carleton on the ABC website for season 3 and in one of the podcasts, I think it's the one after the Catch-22 episode, there is a fan question about whether there is a scientific explanation for everything and Carleton basically denies ever saying that. FYI.

[@drian]

Yea I'm 99.9% sure I recall them saying that way back in the first season, but honestly I can't possibly imagine how that could still be the case (& it's not like they really did mean it back then, but with what's happened since it would've changed, since as we know they've had the major outline of the whole show mapped out since day 1). I do'nt mind there being a sci-fi, supernatural element(s) being involved, as long as I guess it's kept in moderation.

I also recently read that JJ only agreed to do the show if there would be super natural basis.

[JimiThang1]

So it says I haven't posted in several weeks...guess I should do that.

[Talula62]

Derek, don't leave again. We don't know how to quit you.

[JimiThang1]

I'm not going anywhere...with DMB off season, Lost offseason and the tardness of the rest of this board...not much reason to post here.

[Talula62]

Tardness. :lol

[junior94]

I'm not going anywhere...with DMB off season, Lost offseason and the tardness of the rest of this board...not much reason to post here.

And your Lost-related avatar is back!

Although I must confess my dissapointment Derek that you neglected the need to put an exclamation point at the end of "We need to go back". I mean seriously man, where is your head? :lol


edit: Does anyone else get the sense from just taking a quick glance at Alli's avatar that it feels like Desmond is totally naked from the waist down? :D

[ant_marching41]

edit: Does anyone else get the sense from just taking a quick glance at Alli's avatar that it feels like Desmond is totally naked from the waist down? :D
Not to me. But I guess some people see what they want to see. :lol

[ant_marching41]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h76WXAxYsOo&feature=related :lol

[junior94]

Not to me. But I guess some people see what they want to see. :lol

*ahem*...


:o

[davedmb41]

Ok...I don't know if it's my Lost fever I have right now, but I swear there was an article I found in this thread. It was about where the island is and it has something to do with electricity? Some guy wrote it, maybe I'm just going crazy! ha Anyone remember seeing this?

[smeritt]

16 days. Just thought it was important to remind everyone

[Route_2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h76WXAxYsOo&feature=related :lol

That was awesome!

[UNLTrpt]

16 days. Just thought it was important to remind everyone

16! That's a number! Its a sign!

[GLR87]

I was watching a bunch of season two today, some really good episodes what a great show

[junior94]

I was watching a bunch of season two today, some really good episodes what a great show

I think I've mentioned this before, but even though season 2 was generally seemed to be the most panned of the whole show so far (especially during it), I think it winds up playing quite a bit better when you have it to watch on DVD and you can do a full run of it. I believe the shitty erratic scheduling of season 2 greatly helped in people being dissapointed with it at the time.

[junior94]

I was just rewatching the ending few scenes to the 3rd season finale from the data DVD I have those on, mostly because I'm having some technical problem with my DVD drive and needed to test it and that was the nearest disc I had to toss in... but anyway, two new thoughts occurred to me.

I'm now wondernig if there's anyway that Naomi's not really with the freighter people, just in terms of knowing what they're "really" up to, that they're not there to find the survivors. That just solely from her own perspective, she did come in the helicopter from the freighter (remember Sayid brought up the doubt about that, asking the guys if they actually saw the helicopter go down), and came onto the island believing herself everything that she said, but she's been duped by these people we'll meet this season. For one thing, if the case was otherwise, part of me is wondering if she would've been trying to do some little things to try and keep Ben quiet. And I don't mean just at the end when he shows up and warms Jack about Naomi, but even in the whole time she's there. Because I figure, if she really is part of the group that's against the Losties, she has to know there's the possibility they'll run into Ben eventually and he'll try to get the truth out about her.

The second thing, though I guess this is sort of semantics, but watching the scene where Locke reappears and confronts Jack, I wonder if he really needed to kill Naomi after all. That with how good of a hunter Locke is, especially given she didn't know Locke was there, he could've simply shot the phone right out of her hand. Or even, once the phone was on the ground, Jack was standing far enough away from it, he didn't have to threaten him, he could've just destroyed it by putting a bullet in it right there. Hell he even shoots like a foot away from it as a warning shot against Jack.
But, I suppose doing so would've made the scene not quite as dramatic :p

[junior94]

Man I just read something rather disturbing over on AICN. Well, I find it so, anyway.

JJ will be Exec Producing along with Alex Kurtzman and Robert Orci (the writers with him on the Star Trek reboot, and they also wrote "Transformers") a 2 hour pilot for Fox called "FRINGE", about a female FBI agent who teams up with a troubled scientist to investigage paranormal incidents.

The budget is reportedly at $10M, and okay granted Alex Graves will direct (who's a great TV director, he's got a lot of "West Wing" eps under his belt) but could this sound like any more of a blatant ripoff of "XFILES"?? :ugh

[JorgeCavos]

Man I just read something rather disturbing over on AICN. Well, I find it so, anyway.

JJ will be Exec Producing along with Alex Kurtzman and Robert Orci (the writers with him on the Star Trek reboot, and they also wrote "Transformers") a 2 hour pilot for Fox called "FRINGE", about a female FBI agent who teams up with a troubled scientist to investigage paranormal incidents.

The budget is reportedly at $10M, and okay granted Alex Graves will direct (who's a great TV director, he's got a lot of "West Wing" eps under his belt) but could this sound like any more of a blatant ripoff of "XFILES"?? :ugh

By the description it sounds X-File-ish but I give JJ more credit than that. Between his work on Alias, Lost, Cloverfield, and other projects I'm sure he'll bring something unique that'll hook me to the show like I was hooked to his other ones

[Talula62]

Kev, I have yet to see a solid reason why Locke shot Naomi. There just isn't one. He's just looney like that, apparently.

But seriously, JJ's such a whore even I can't keep up. ;)

[JTRocks]

anyone know what the regular start time is gonna be after the premiere?

9 et/ 8 ct ?

[@drian]

9 et/ 8 ct ?

Correct. :thumbsup

[JimiThang1]

And your Lost-related avatar is back!

Although I must confess my dissapointment Derek that you neglected the need to put an exclamation point at the end of "We need to go back". I mean seriously man, where is your head? :lol


edit: Does anyone else get the sense from just taking a quick glance at Alli's avatar that it feels like Desmond is totally naked from the waist down? :D
It wouldn't fit! Stupid character limit!

[JimiThang1]

Oh wait it did fit, what the hell, this board is so buggy.

[smeritt]

I was just rewatching the ending few scenes to the 3rd season finale from the data DVD I have those on, mostly because I'm having some technical problem with my DVD drive and needed to test it and that was the nearest disc I had to toss in... but anyway, two new thoughts occurred to me.

I'm now wondernig if there's anyway that Naomi's not really with the freighter people, just in terms of knowing what they're "really" up to, that they're not there to find the survivors. That just solely from her own perspective, she did come in the helicopter from the freighter (remember Sayid brought up the doubt about that, asking the guys if they actually saw the helicopter go down), and came onto the island believing herself everything that she said, but she's been duped by these people we'll meet this season. For one thing, if the case was otherwise, part of me is wondering if she would've been trying to do some little things to try and keep Ben quiet. And I don't mean just at the end when he shows up and warms Jack about Naomi, but even in the whole time she's there. Because I figure, if she really is part of the group that's against the Losties, she has to know there's the possibility they'll run into Ben eventually and he'll try to get the truth out about her.

The second thing, though I guess this is sort of semantics, but watching the scene where Locke reappears and confronts Jack, I wonder if he really needed to kill Naomi after all. That with how good of a hunter Locke is, especially given she didn't know Locke was there, he could've simply shot the phone right out of her hand. Or even, once the phone was on the ground, Jack was standing far enough away from it, he didn't have to threaten him, he could've just destroyed it by putting a bullet in it right there. Hell he even shoots like a foot away from it as a warning shot against Jack.
But, I suppose doing so would've made the scene not quite as dramatic :pMe and my friends were asking this exact same question. But then if he does, there goes season 4 out the window lol

[Talula62]

Who wants a DHARMA fish biscuit?? http://www.kungfoodie.com/lost-fish-biscuit/

[junior94]

Who wants a DHARMA fish biscuit?? http://www.kungfoodie.com/lost-fish-biscuit/

Hmm... well I was starting to feel a bit peckish.

Yummy, now that hits the spot! :lol

[junior94]

From the "What The Fuck Is He Doing?" Dept.... for kicks I thought I'd post this up. I was recently taking some snapshots of myself with my horrible webcam, point being I was showing a couple friends who haven't seen me how friggin long my hair has gotten lately, because this is rather uncharacteristic of me. I usually wear my hair fairly short, and have for a long time.

Anyway, this one picture in particular, I wasn't thinking about this when I took it, I simply wanted a profile example, but looking back at the result, I don't know, I thought I had a bit of a Jacob thing going on. Whatcha think? :D

[ant_marching41]

Who wants a DHARMA fish biscuit?? http://www.kungfoodie.com/lost-fish-biscuit/
Only if I get to enjoy it with the circus music playing in the backround.

[ant_marching41]

Anyway, this one picture in particular, I wasn't thinking about this when I took it, I simply wanted a profile example, but looking back at the result, I don't know, I thought I had a bit of a Jacob thing going on. Whatcha think? :D
Thats enough! You've had your fun!

[junior94]

Thats enough! You've had your fun!

Boooo! :p I think you're just threatened by my extreme sexiness (not to mention Jacob-ness).


Yea, you know it.

[Route_2]

Here is a really good post about the upcoming new episode of Lost. There are no specific spoilers contained within, but there are general comments about the themes and pacing of the episode and the season as a whole. So if you haven't been keeping up on developments relating to the show in the off-season and want to be totally surprised you may want to steer clear but shouldn't be anything too new for avid fans.

All of it is really good news for the show and for the fans.

http://tvblog.ugo.com/index.php/tvblog/more/lost_season_4_premiere_beginning_of_the_end_review ed_mild_spoilers/

[ant_marching41]

Very nice article. Thanks for sharing. :)

God I can't wait any longer!!!!

[hbktonyb]

I can't wait...disappointed about only getting 8 episodes b/c of the strike, but at least we get something! I just rewatched season 3 to catch up and refresh.

[ant_marching41]

I watched the finale again last night so my mom could catch up. So well done. Outstanding acting from Fox. He was on in this episode.

[@drian]

One of my favourite moments from Season 3 has to be when Kate, Locke and Sayid make it back to the others camp where Jack is being held. Kate sees Jack running towards the bushes and is about to yell out. It turns out Jack is playing football and is really enjoying himself. That scene was just so perfect, it kind of gave me chills.

[ant_marching41]

I think my favorite scene from S3 was the scene between Sawyer and Cooper at the Black Rock.

[@drian]

I think my favorite scene from S3 was the scene between Sawyer and Cooper at the Black Rock.

Yah that scene played out very nicely.

[hbktonyb]

I'm really looking forward to seeing how they do the whole flash forward/back this season. I wonder who really left the island besides Jack and Kate!

8 days, 16 hours, 23 minutes, 42 seconds...

[smeritt]

I'm really looking forward to seeing how they do the whole flash forward/back this season. I wonder who really left the island besides Jack and Kate!

8 days, 16 hours, 23 minutes, 42 seconds...You bastard you beat me to it

[hbktonyb]

a couple of good articles on tvguide.com about lost. minor spoilers, nothing too huge.

i hope we get a good fix of sawyer-isms in these 8 episodes.

[il bacio dolce]

Just want to say I started watching the series this past weekend. I'm only a few episodes in. It hooked me from opening scene, literally, it is the best show ever on television. :D

[ant_marching41]

Welcome to the group! Glad to see you've picked up on the greatest show currently on television :)

Ahh, I remember 2 summers ago when my best friend brought over his Lost S1 dvds. :D

[il bacio dolce]

Unfortunately I can not risk reading any posts in this thread, even if they are simply in agreement to my opinion about the show, for fear of reading a spoiler. I'd be devastated :lol And usually I do look ahead when I get in to a show late.

[ant_marching41]

Spoiler: Kate and Locke... switch brains...


Kate: "I want my body back!"
Locke: "No, I'm hotter this way."
Kate: "I want my titties!"

[hbktonyb]

Spoiler: Kate and Locke... switch brains...


Kate: "I want my body back!"
Locke: "No, I'm hotter this way."
Kate: "I want my titties!"


:lol :lol

[Hurting_Donkey]

Not sure if this was mentioned yet, but I just heard JJ Abrahms do a radio interview. He said there were several Lost references in Cloverfield. He didn't get specific but said that one of them occurs before the movie really even starts.

[thom hudson]

Not sure if this was mentioned yet, but I just heard JJ Abrahms do a radio interview. He said there were several Lost references in Cloverfield. He didn't get specific but said that one of them occurs before the movie really even starts.
yeah i heard that as well. curious as to what the hell that could be.

"hi jj - this is jim norton"
"hi jim"

"aagghh nothin"


:lol what a little meaty breasted zilch

[GinaNMU]

One more week, kids :D

[cryfreedom4136]

Yay!! Is anyone looking forward to the Lost Video Game for the 360... I was kind of skeptical but the more I hear about it the better it looks

[hbktonyb]

Not sure if this was mentioned yet, but I just heard JJ Abrahms do a radio interview. He said there were several Lost references in Cloverfield. He didn't get specific but said that one of them occurs before the movie really even starts.

right before the movie starts there is a dharma logo on the screen! good stuff.

i wish jj would still help w/ Lost but Damon is doing a great job. JJ was great on howard today.

[hbktonyb]

omfgzz! a week from today!
l
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[ant_marching41]

One more week one more week one more week!!!!!!

















One more week! :hump

[cryfreedom4136]

One more week, kids :D

omfgzz! a week from today!
l
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s
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One more week one more week one more week!!!!!!












One more week! :hump


Hey does anybody knwo when Lost starts back up again? :D

[hbktonyb]

For some reason when my friends and I type about it, we always call it "loooooooooooooooooooost"

[ant_marching41]

Hey does anybody knwo when Lost starts back up again? :D
Haven't ya heard!? Its only one week away!?!? :multi

[ant_marching41]

This is for all of our closest friends, who just can't keep up.


http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1723243

[@drian]

This is for all of our closest friends, who just can't keep up.


http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1723243

My new goal in life is to bang a snorg tees girl, god fucking damn are they hot.

[UNLTrpt]

right before the movie starts there is a dharma logo on the screen! good stuff.

i wish jj would still help w/ Lost but Damon is doing a great job. JJ was great on howard today.

no f'in WAY!

good lord I need watch that movie again.

[ant_marching41]

So I just turned on TNT and I see Josh Holloway trying to kill this demon child with an axe, but was distracted by the 4 wolves that randomly attached him. So ad he's on the ground he throws the axe at the boy and it pins him right against the tree.

It got me thinking, Sawyer needs to off somebody with a fucking axe. There is one on the island (somehow!?!?).

Anyway, that'd be cool I guess.

Only a few more days!!!

[junior94]

I just thought of something. I've seen the main preview for the "2 hour premiere" by now many times, as I'm sure we all have, but I just realized, do we know, are we definitely getting 2 full hours of new material? Like they're not doing one of their "here's an hour of a recap of season 3" thing, are they? We're not getting a clip show at 8pm and then just a single our of new show at 9?

Do we know we're getting 2 hours for sure?

[GinaNMU]

On Wednesday, they're replaying the last epsidoe of season 3 with a sort of pop-up video type of thing (text commentary I heard). Then on Thursday, from 8-9 it's just a recap of LOST thus far...not only season 3, but I think just everything Lost. Then from 9-10 the new premier episode. It's definitely not 2 hours of new material.

[junior94]

On Wednesday, they're replaying the last epsidoe of season 3 with a sort of pop-up video type of thing (text commentary I heard). Then on Thursday, from 8-9 it's just a recap of LOST thus far...not only season 3, but I think just everything Lost. Then from 9-10 the new premier episode. It's definitely not 2 hours of new material.

Bahh!! I knew a full 2 hour episode was too good to be true. :shrug

[cryfreedom4136]

So I have been rewatching all the episodes in preperation for the new Season anyways I was just watching Season 2 Episode 4 and at the beginning Hurley is having a dream where he is eating all the food in the hatch anyways the carton of milk that is guzzling has a missing child thing on it with a picture of Walt... kind of funny

[hbktonyb]

^i love the hidden things they put in episodes. one of the reasons its the greatest show on tv.

[junior94]

I'm a total geek for DVD audio commentaries. I was watching the s2 premiere last night with the commentary, now I'd already done this before, but obviously I'd forgotten this one tid bit they mentioned. They were Jack-backs of course, when Sara first got into her accident and Jack did the operation on her. Cuse said that Julia Bowen was already such a fan of the show, that for the production of that episode she stipulated that she only wanted to be given the parts of the script featuring her in the flashbacks and not any of the present day island stuff, because for that she wanted to be surprised when she watched it on premiere night just like the rest of the country. I thought that was pretty cool.

For those who've gotten the s3 set, how many eps have commentary? Are they pretty good?

[junior94]

I'm also rewatching a few select s3 episodes and I know I've said this before, but I'm still bothered by the MAJOR problem of the logic being used by the Others. If you're an intelligent person, usually that'll entail that you're able to see a situation from the perspective of the person on the other side of it, not just yours. So you'd think that the Others could understand why the Losties have regarded them as enemies. But it makes no sense, from minute one virtually everything the Others have done has sent the message that they are the bad guys, treating them like they were animals to bend to their collective will, holding them prisoner, etc etc. And yet CONTINUALLY, they keep crying about why the Losties can't stop seeing them as the enemy.

HELLO?!?! :p

[JimiThang1]

For those who've gotten the s3 set, how many eps have commentary? Are they pretty good?
4 Eps, "A Tale of Two Cities" with Damon and Elizabeth Mitchell (this one was really good), "I Do" with Carlton, Evangeline, and Josh (A really funny one), "Expose" with Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz (eh not very good), "The Man Behind The Curtain" with Damon Lindelof, Carlton Cuse and Michael Emerson (best one on the set).

[hbktonyb]

did anyone watch the s3 dvd special feature of the 'jacob loves you' brainwash video? that thing freaked me the hell out.

4 days...

[@drian]

Bahh!! I knew a full 2 hour episode was too good to be true. :shrug

If we were assured of more than 8 episodes this year I'd be pissed but since we are only getting 8 I don't care that it's only a 1 Hour premiere.

[ant_marching41]

did anyone watch the s3 dvd special feature of the 'jacob loves you' brainwash video? that thing freaked me the hell out.

4 days...
Where was that? I must have missed it.

Speaking of which, are there any hidden easter eggs on that menu. I was wondering because there were monitors that i couldn't click on (#1 if i remember correctly).

[hbktonyb]

Where was that? I must have missed it.

Speaking of which, are there any hidden easter eggs on that menu. I was wondering because there were monitors that i couldn't click on (#1 if i remember correctly).

it was an easter egg on the special features disk. i'm not sure exactly where it was but it was a real freaky video!

[UCFish]

I am going on a Lost set tour in Oahu this afternoon. I am really excited.

[hbktonyb]

^that is unbelievable!! although we may never see you again. avoid the others

[cryfreedom4136]

You know what ongoing Lost mystery really pisses me off is the fact that Libby was in the mental hospital with Hurley, I want answers... a lack of answers on that issue makes me very afraid that the series will turn out to all be Hurley's fantasy... and if that is the case, SOMEONE is going to have to PAY

[hbktonyb]

according to tptb, libby's storyline is supposed to be completed in season 4 (although it may not happen this year b/c of the writers strike). they will complete this storyline however, and supposedly she is a big piece of everything happening.

i can't wait to see who was in that casket in the season finale

[cryfreedom4136]

according to tptb, libby's storyline is supposed to be completed in season 4 (although it may not happen this year b/c of the writers strike). they will complete this storyline however, and supposedly she is a big piece of everything happening.

i can't wait to see who was in that casket in the season finale

This would be the first time they continue the story-line of a dead character wouldn't it be?

[GinaNMU]

If anyone here has been keeping up w/ those mobisodes (I haven't really, but my boyfriend has), I've suggest you check out the newest one.

It's. Insane. And really makes you wonder...

[btwang88]

If anyone here has been keeping up w/ those mobisodes (I haven't really, but my boyfriend has), I've suggest you check out the newest one.

It's. Insane. And really makes you wonder...

what's it about? for some reason it's not working for me.

[UNLTrpt]

If anyone here has been keeping up w/ those mobisodes (I haven't really, but my boyfriend has), I've suggest you check out the newest one.

It's. Insane. And really makes you wonder...

#13?

Oh. my. god.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z62t8k0vbWk

[smeritt]

4 days.

[UNLTrpt]

so...Wednesday is the Season 3 finale and Thursday is the Season 4 season premier correct?

[UCFish]

The tour was great. Got to see lots of cool places including Locke's fathers house, The tree that they hid in from the smoke monster, Where Ecko was killed/the cabin where Jacob was (same spot), where ecko killed the two drug dealers, the dock where Michael and Walt left in a boat, the dock where the sub blew up, Hurleys golf course, where Ana Lucia killed Goodwin, where Hurley drove the van, and a few more that I can't think of. Definitely a good time though!

Also something from the new season! Won't say what though.

[DMBZeppelin]

You know what ongoing Lost mystery really pisses me off is the fact that Libby was in the mental hospital with Hurley, I want answers... a lack of answers on that issue makes me very afraid that the series will turn out to all be Hurley's fantasy... and if that is the case, SOMEONE is going to have to PAY
The people who make the show have been asking about that. They've said many times it's not Hurley's fantasy, or even purgatory which a lot of people used to believe. So unless they change their minds everything should be real.

[dontburnthe_pig]

#13?

Oh. my. god.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z62t8k0vbWk

I can't wait.

[GinaNMU]

#13?

Oh. my. god.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z62t8k0vbWk

I KNOW!! My jaw literally dropped. WTF, right??

[malarks26]

so...Wednesday is the Season 3 finale and Thursday is the Season 4 season premier correct?

I sure hope so, that'd be the smart thing for ABC to do since its had such a big layoff.

[GinaNMU]

so...Wednesday is the Season 3 finale and Thursday is the Season 4 season premier correct?

Yes sir.

[hbktonyb]

#13?

Oh. my. god.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z62t8k0vbWk


whoa whoa whoa!!! what is this mobisode? are they on the dvd's or something? this is crazy!

[DMBand520]

If anyone here has been keeping up w/ those mobisodes (I haven't really, but my boyfriend has), I've suggest you check out the newest one.

It's. Insane. And really makes you wonder...

Is the latest one the one called The Envelope?

[malarks26]

#13?

Oh. my. god.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z62t8k0vbWk

how many are there? i only saw #13....and wow!! :thumbsup

[GinaNMU]

how many are there? i only saw #13....and wow!! :thumbsup

:lol Rob

Well, you saw #13...and that's the last one....sooooo......

;) :hug

[malarks26]

:lol Rob

Well, you saw #13...and that's the last one....sooooo......

;) :hug

Hahaha.....I guess I should have seen that coming huh Gina? :D

The reason I said that though was b/c I couldn't find the other ones on YouTube. Does anyone have the links? Pretty please. ;)

[dh4645]

Hahaha.....I guess I should have seen that coming huh Gina? :D

The reason I said that though was b/c I couldn't find the other ones on YouTube. Does anyone have the links? Pretty please. ;)

yeah, i haven't heard of them before today. i would like to see what they are all about.

i haven't looked around for lost things since the end of last season. now that it's starting back up, i am all into it again.

[MacGuyver]

The people who make the show have been asking about that. They've said many times it's not Hurley's fantasy, or even purgatory which a lot of people used to believe. So unless they change their minds everything should be real.

yeah but they also said the show had a scientific explanation, and they reneged on that. So we'll see but I'm keeping my fingers crossed. A show about someone's fantasy, or purgatory, just seems like such a big waste.

[MacGuyver]

yeah, i haven't heard of them before today. i would like to see what they are all about.

i haven't looked around for lost things since the end of last season. now that it's starting back up, i am all into it again.

as am I... thinking about getting season 3 and just going mad tonight and tomorrow. I can't remember half of the stuff that went on!

[DMBand520]

yeah, i haven't heard of them before today. i would like to see what they are all about.

i haven't looked around for lost things since the end of last season. now that it's starting back up, i am all into it again.

I think they are all on ABC's site

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/missingpieces/index

Are those it? They say they are called Mobisodes but there are only 12 of them.

[tgg5014]

Yes, those are the Mobisodes. They're shown on Verizon Vcast first and then 6 days later are put on abc.com

I really can't believe #13! Whenever I start to think I have the slightest grip on the show, they do something that makes me feel even less in control, haha.

I remember watching the s3 finale and thinking, "How am I going to last for 9 months?" I can't believe its almost here.

I'm so excited. I think I'll start posting more, haha.

[GinaNMU]

Yes, those are the Mobisodes. They're shown on Verizon Vcast first and then 6 days later are put on abc.com

I really can't believe #13! Whenever I start to think I have the slightest grip on the show, they do something that makes me feel even less in control, haha.

I remember watching the s3 finale and thinking, "How am I going to last for 9 months?" I can't believe its almost here.

I'm so excited. I think I'll start posting more, haha.

Yay and welcome! It's fun here in the Lost thread. :)

[cryfreedom4136]

Just out of curiousity, how come the Lost thread has to be in the Chat forum when all the other TV shows get to have their thread in the main forum?

[clayj41]

Just out of curiousity, how come the Lost thread has to be in the Chat forum when all the other TV shows get to have their thread in the main forum?

The show is just that good! Seriously though, look at the size of this thread...380 pages!

[cryfreedom4136]

The show is just that good! Seriously though, look at the size of this thread...380 pages!

456 by my count...

EDIT: Actually this is the first post of page 457

[Route_2]

Oh boy! This island is about to get even crazier!

[GinaNMU]

Oh boy! This island is about to get even crazier!

:lol :lol :lol

Are you excited?!?!?! hahahahaha

[ant_marching41]

#13?

Oh. my. god.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z62t8k0vbWk
Whaaaaa!!!??!?!?!

:lol Awesome.

[smeritt]

So wait can we discuss these mobisodes please. What does everyone think. " The envelope" is clearly about Bens tumor. But like what the fuck!?!? 13????

[malarks26]

I think they are all on ABC's site

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/missingpieces/index

Are those it? They say they are called Mobisodes but there are only 12 of them.

Sweet, thanks for the link!!

[smeritt]

Room 23. FREAKYYYYYYY fucking walt

[dh4645]

i thought you guys said there were 13?

the page says displaying 1 thru 4 of 12.

where's 13?

[Route_2]

i thought you guys said there were 13?

the page says displaying 1 thru 4 of 12.

where's 13?

They go to verizon customers first, then get posted on the ABC website a few weeks later. There is a youtube link to #13 on the prior page.

#13 is very interesting and unexpected. There is a theory that all the apparitions on the island, Christian Shepherd, Kate's black horse, etc. are actually the smoke monster manifesting itself. I've heard Darleton allude to this on their podcasts as well, so I lean towards this theory. So, if that's the cast the smoke monster is telling Vincent to go find Jack. Very weird.

[dh4645]

They go to verizon customers first, then get posted on the ABC website a few weeks later. There is a youtube link to #13 on the prior page.

#13 is very interesting and unexpected. There is a theory that all the apparitions on the island, Christian Shepherd, Kate's black horse, etc. are actually the smoke monster manifesting itself. I've heard Darleton allude to this on their podcasts as well, so I lean towards this theory. So, if that's the cast the smoke monster is telling Vincent to go find Jack. Very weird.

oh, ok. duh.

i even saw the youtube link. i'm dumb sorry.

[UNLTrpt]

All 13 mobisodes:

#1-The Watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfRittPW6sY

#2-Hurley and Frogurt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1W_1a-wMNY

#3-King of the Castle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLX2eOppa6M

#4-The Deal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeEF6iRqiPQ

#5-Operation: Sleeper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bePVaa85tqk

#6-Room 23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b84v6R9HoYs

#7-Arzt & Crafts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq0Jp8O_rWQ

#8-Buried Secrets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbabqgPkmHE

#9-Tropical Depression
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZb1VR_nBQM

#10-Jack, Meet Ethan. Ethan? Jack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=III5xUSiqfo

#11-Jin Has a Temper-Tantrum On the Golf Course
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke_vRlhkvQg

#12-The Envelope
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EMnwOGUvao

#13-So It Begins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufx2UY--U2U

[UNLTrpt]

looks like 12 and 13 have already been taken down by YouTube

[UNLTrpt]

Looks like they're all being taken down.

#1-12 is up on ABC and #13 will be up there in a couple of days.

fuckin walt disney

[smeritt]

They go to verizon customers first, then get posted on the ABC website a few weeks later. There is a youtube link to #13 on the prior page.

#13 is very interesting and unexpected. There is a theory that all the apparitions on the island, Christian Shepherd, Kate's black horse, etc. are actually the smoke monster manifesting itself. I've heard Darleton allude to this on their podcasts as well, so I lean towards this theory. So, if that's the cast the smoke monster is telling Vincent to go find Jack. Very weird.What if its actually Jack's father. His body isn't in that casket? This island is all sorts of messed up. There is still a possibility Jacks father could very well be alive. Or it could just be the black smoke. I lean towards black smoke but there are still other options. I mean it is lost.

[ant_marching41]

Now that I've had a few hours to think about #13, I think its kinda weird that they would kind of abandon the whole idea that Christian Sheppard was the smoke monster. Having him talk to Vincent gives him a much more human quality, unlike in "White Rabbit" when Jack chases him into the woods and Christian turns around all creepy like and doesn't say anything.

Doesn't really fit, does it?

[smeritt]

Now that I've had a few hours to think about #13, its kinda weird that they would kind of abandon the whole idea that Christian Sheppard was the smoke monster. Having him talk to Vincent gives him a much more human quality to him, unlike in "White Rabbit" when Jack chases him into the woods and Christian turns around all creepy like and doesn't say anything.

Doesn't really fit, does it?Sure it does. I thought it was established everyone thinks Yemi was the black smoke. And after Eko basically spits in Yemi's face, the black smoke gets pissed and kills his ass. Makes sense.

[tgg5014]

Sure it does. I thought it was established everyone thinks Yemi was the black smoke. And after Eko basically spits in Yemi's face, the black smoke gets pissed and kills his ass. Makes sense.

That is true. But Christian from #13 was way different from Christian in "White Rabbit" and Yemi. It really does almost seem like he's alive. But I swear I remember the producers confirming the fact that he's dead.

[smeritt]

That is true. But Christian from #13 was way different from Christian in "White Rabbit" and Yemi. It really does almost seem like he's alive. But I swear I remember the producers confirming the fact that he's dead.Did you notice he didnt move though. He was stuck in that one spot, could bend over and stuff but didnt move his location.

[tgg5014]

Did you notice he didnt move though. He was stuck in that one spot, could bend over and stuff but didnt move his location.

Yea, interesting. I didn't notice that at first. I do still think it's the smoke monster. That just confused me a lot haha.

I'm still somewhat confused as to what's going on with desmond. He turned the failsafe key, woke up naked in the jungle, and now has those flashes, right? At one point right after Flashes Before Your Eyes, I thought des was living his life over and over again or something. I don't think that anymore, but I still don't entirely get it.

[clcfball11]

I think that Ben is the one in the casket in Jack's flash forward. If you look closely, the casket is extremely small..theres no way a normal sized man would fit in it, only someone of very small stature. Also, Jack says "neither" when asked if it is friend or family..and one thing that disproves a ton of casket theories is Kate's response in the flash-forward when she is asked about if shes going to go to the funeral. She says "Why would I go to the funeral?" in a really negative tone. She isn't a big fan of whoever it is. Why would she speak that way about someone if it wasnt a complete jackoff?

[malarks26]

Yea, interesting. I didn't notice that at first. I do still think it's the smoke monster. That just confused me a lot haha.

I'm still somewhat confused as to what's going on with desmond. He turned the failsafe key, woke up naked in the jungle, and now has those flashes, right? At one point right after Flashes Before Your Eyes, I thought des was living his life over and over again or something. I don't think that anymore, but I still don't entirely get it.

What makes you think that he's not living his life over and over again?

[hbktonyb]

1 day.........LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST

[junior94]

All 13 mobisodes:
#13-So It Begins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufx2UY--U2U

Whoa... :ugh Okay yea, gotta say that was pretty damn wicked, probably the best one in the series. And what I find particularly interesting, didn't Darleton say at one point way back when that there was a pretty major clue in the very first scene in the pilot (Jack waking up in the jungle)? I wonder now if it's to do with the shoe. There was a white tennis shoe laying about by itself near his body, and it looked to be the exact shoes that Christian was wearing in that segment.

However, I still don't believe that Jack's dad is still alive in the "conventional", flesh and blood sense. I think just like all the other apparitions, in that bit that Christian was Smokezilla (as he almost certainly was when he was appearing to Jack in like the 2nd or 3rd episode). But curious that he said the same thing to Vincent that Walt said to Locke in the s3 finale, "He's/You've got work to do."

Now then about the mobisodes, overall actually I've been pretty dissapointed with them, in that the majority of them I don't feel there's much point to them, they're not giving any new info. I didn't get "The Watch" at all, and there were a few that seemed to be saying things to us we already knew. Like Hurley's, I think it's entirely likely that the "Frogurt" guy was merely another figment of his imagination, but hello, we were already given that story in the "Dave" episode. "Room 23", yea it had a cool feel to it, but again, the whole thing with the birds, hell we saw that with Walt back in season 1. The only thing I can figure that was maybe new was it perhaps gave us an impression of just how much even Ben & Co. were freaked out by the powers that Walt had.

I still haven't seen the two that preceded "So It Begins", but short of that one I thought the two that were the best were the ones that added further to the suspicion that Locke in fact did NOT blow up the submarine. In the "Sleeper" one Juliette pretty much says that right out to Jack, and I felt there was an allusion to it in the "King Of The Castle".

[cryfreedom4136]

Didn't the season finale of season 3 confirm that Jack's dad is definately alive and he makes it off the island?

[Route_2]

Didn't the season finale of season 3 confirm that Jack's dad is definately alive and he makes it off the island?

I always thought the consensus was that Jack was so blasted off oxycontins and suicidal that he was having delusions about his father still be aliving that led to him saying that his father was upstairs in the hospital. Maybe I'm wrong. Like most everything with Lost, nothing is for certain until it is explicity stated I guess.

[hbktonyb]

I just think Jack was all f'd up on drugs, but is def. possible that his dad was actually alive in the flash-forward. Another clue was that Jack went to get his prescription and said it was written by dr. shepard, which could have meant his pops.

[junior94]

Didn't the season finale of season 3 confirm that Jack's dad is definately alive and he makes it off the island?

I always thought the consensus was that Jack was so blasted off oxycontins and suicidal that he was having delusions about his father still be aliving that led to him saying that his father was upstairs in the hospital. Maybe I'm wrong. Like most everything with Lost, nothing is for certain until it is explicity stated I guess.

This was something that a few people thought was a bit of a cheat in the finale. Obviously the producers wanted to keep the surprise that it was a flash forward and not back until the very end. But kinda like Route 2 is saying, I think that given how fucked up and broken that Jack is when we see him there, it's believable enough that he would say what he did to the other doctor, about getting his father down there (though I don't think Jack was actually having delusions, like he momentarily DID believe his dad was still alive, it was just more of a psychological thing for him). They needed the line to work on two levels and it did, upon first viewing it gives you the impression that Christian is alive and thus it's pre-island, but upon second viewing you could understand Jack's stress for what it is.

So no, that was definitely NOT a confirmation that papa Shephard is still alive.

[cryfreedom4136]

I just think Jack was all f'd up on drugs, but is def. possible that his dad was actually alive in the flash-forward. Another clue was that Jack went to get his prescription and said it was written by dr. shepard, which could have meant his pops.


That was how I took it, I will have to re-watch the season finale again tonight to get a feel for it...

[junior94]

I just think Jack was all f'd up on drugs, but is def. possible that his dad was actually alive in the flash-forward. Another clue was that Jack went to get his prescription and said it was written by dr. shepard, which could have meant his pops.

I don't believe so. I took that simply as Jack was trying to get around having written a prescription for himself for more painkillers, he just brought up his dad's name to try and convince the pharmacist, so no, there's no doubt in my mind that Christian was really dead at that point (and far before it, too).

And besides, in one of their interviews this offseason, I'm 99% positive that Darleton already confirmed that Jack's dad was dead at that point, that the line about getting his father down here was, like I said, a bit of a sly trick to hook the audience on the first viewing.

[41ravens]

holy christ, it has been far too long. one day left, though. anyone know if they're going to be showing any recap type episode tonight or tomorrow?

[kmny04]

tonight they're showing last season's finale

tomorrow night is an hour long recap of the last 3 seasons followed by the season 4 premiere. !!!

[@drian]

456 by my count...

EDIT: Actually this is the first post of page 457

You must have your settings set to only dispaly like 10 posts per page.

[cryfreedom4136]

You must have your settings set to only dispaly like 10 posts per page.

25 Actually, I didn't know we could modify it

[dh4645]

25 Actually, I didn't know we could modify it

it's page 382 for me now

[cryfreedom4136]

So is it try that the season has been shortened to 8 episodes because of teh strike? Does this mean they will make the remaining seasons longer to make up for the 8 episodes missing from this season.. I wonder if the strike ended in the next couple weeks would they go back to a 16 episodes season??

[junior94]

Did anyone happen to download the "And So It Begins" episode before it was taken down off youtube? And if so, would you mind possibly UL'ing it to a sendspace kinda thing so I could grab it?
I"m trying to hook up a Canadian friend, for some reason she can't even see the ones on the ABC website, they're only for the US. And figures, apparently that #13 one is the only one not avaiable ANYWHERE on youtube, if you look around you can still find ones of all the other eps. So now that's the only one I don't have DL'd to disc.

Thank you! :)

[cryfreedom4136]

Did anyone happen to download the "And So It Begins" episode before it was taken down off youtube? And if so, would you mind possibly UL'ing it to a sendspace kinda thing so I could grab it?
I"m trying to hook up a Canadian friend, for some reason she can't even see the ones on the ABC website, they're only for the US. And figures, apparently that #13 one is the only one not avaiable ANYWHERE on youtube, if you look around you can still find ones of all the other eps. So now that's the only one I don't have DL'd to disc.

Thank you! :)

It was down last night too just do a search on "Lost so it begins" there will be about 20 items returned, go down the list clicking all of them until you find one that works

[junior94]

It was down last night too just do a search on "Lost so it begins" there will be about 20 items returned, go down the list clicking all of them until you find one that works

Bahh.. thanks but, no luck. Of all the tons of results (I only looked over the first 3-4 pages), there was only 2 that were directly Lost related of that ep, the one that was caught by Disney, and the other one was removed by the original UL'er himself.

[junior94]

Nevermind... BOOYAH!! I gots it :D

And here's the direct link to it if anybody else wants:

http://www.surfthechannel.com/info/television/Lost%3A_Missing_Pieces/51250/S1E13.html

[joepsu0985]

24 is still better...

[malarks26]

Bahh.. thanks but, no luck. Of all the tons of results (I only looked over the first 3-4 pages), there was only 2 that were directly Lost related of that ep, the one that was caught by Disney, and the other one was removed by the original UL'er himself.

Why would they pull them all down? Was it not officially released by ABC or something?? I watched it last night, can't remember what time but it was working before 7:30pm.

[joepsu0985]

Nevermind... BOOYAH!! I gots it :D

And here's the direct link to it if anybody else wants:

http://www.surfthechannel.com/info/television/Lost%3A_Missing_Pieces/51250/S1E13.html

Are you serious?

jacob?

[joepsu0985]

above was

Jacob

[joepsu0985]

When Locke is shot by Ben and Locke wants to kill him self, he sees Walt. Walt says, "Don't. You have work to do." Clearly Jack's dad, Vincent, and Walt have a big big part.

[hbktonyb]

how do you do that 'spoiler' thing? i was gonna say something but i'm not sure if its a spoiler or if it is common knowledge.

[@drian]

how do you do that 'spoiler' thing? i was gonna say something but i'm not sure if its a spoiler or if it is common knowledge.

[ spoiler ] Without the spaces between the brackets [ /spoiler ]

[malarks26]

[ spoiler ] Without the spaces between the brackets [ /spoiler ]

Anyone else watching last years season finale tonight??

[Route_2]

Vincent is Jacob

[UNLTrpt]

Whoa... :ugh Okay yea, gotta say that was pretty damn wicked, probably the best one in the series. And what I find particularly interesting, didn't Darleton say at one point way back when that there was a pretty major clue in the very first scene in the pilot (Jack waking up in the jungle)? I wonder now if it's to do with the shoe. There was a white tennis shoe laying about by itself near his body, and it looked to be the exact shoes that Christian was wearing in that segment.

However, I still don't believe that Jack's dad is still alive in the "conventional", flesh and blood sense. I think just like all the other apparitions, in that bit that Christian was Smokezilla (as he almost certainly was when he was appearing to Jack in like the 2nd or 3rd episode). But curious that he said the same thing to Vincent that Walt said to Locke in the s3 finale, "He's/You've got work to do."

Now then about the mobisodes, overall actually I've been pretty dissapointed with them, in that the majority of them I don't feel there's much point to them, they're not giving any new info. I didn't get "The Watch" at all, and there were a few that seemed to be saying things to us we already knew. Like Hurley's, I think it's entirely likely that the "Frogurt" guy was merely another figment of his imagination, but hello, we were already given that story in the "Dave" episode. "Room 23", yea it had a cool feel to it, but again, the whole thing with the birds, hell we saw that with Walt back in season 1. The only thing I can figure that was maybe new was it perhaps gave us an impression of just how much even Ben & Co. were freaked out by the powers that Walt had.

I still haven't seen the two that preceded "So It Begins", but short of that one I thought the two that were the best were the ones that added further to the suspicion that Locke in fact did NOT blow up the submarine. In the "Sleeper" one Juliette pretty much says that right out to Jack, and I felt there was an allusion to it in the "King Of The Castle".

good stuff Kevin. I agree that the mobisodes are a little disappointing. But you gotta remember, they don't want to reveal anything earth shattering. Ya gotta keep the big reveals kept to the show. I remember them saying that you wouldn't miss anything if you didn't get involved in the extra stuff surrounding the show. So none of this stuff is going to be earth shattering. The fanatics will find this stuff and eat it up and who knows, maybe we'll see "so it begins" at some point in the regular show.


This was something that a few people thought was a bit of a cheat in the finale. Obviously the producers wanted to keep the surprise that it was a flash forward and not back until the very end. But kinda like Route 2 is saying, I think that given how fucked up and broken that Jack is when we see him there, it's believable enough that he would say what he did to the other doctor, about getting his father down there (though I don't think Jack was actually having delusions, like he momentarily DID believe his dad was still alive, it was just more of a psychological thing for him). They needed the line to work on two levels and it did, upon first viewing it gives you the impression that Christian is alive and thus it's pre-island, but upon second viewing you could understand Jack's stress for what it is.

So no, that was definitely NOT a confirmation that papa Shephard is still alive.

another good post. totally agree.

[hbktonyb]

i just think that the walt that locke saw, vincent, jack's dad, kate's horse, and the other dead people are all part of the smoke monster, which could end up being jacob...i still think the real leader is ben and jacob is just a myth

[UNLTrpt]

Here's another link to the mobisodes. One page back from the one linked above.

http://www.surfthechannel.com/show/television/Lost%3A_Missing_Pieces.html

[UNLTrpt]

i just think that the walt that locke saw, vincent, jack's dad, kate's horse, and the other dead people are all part of the smoke monster, which could end up being jacob...i still think the real leader is ben and jacob is just a myth

i really don't think that's spoiler material but...whatever floats your boat. You're just throwing out your opinion and it isn't necessarily true (although it could be)

To put a question to your opinion, how can jacob be a myth? With all that happened in his cabin: shit flying everywhere, a mysterious voice, a faint image of "someone" and Ben obviously upset that Locke "talked to jacob"...at least for me, it confirmed that Ben wasn't making this shit up.

I think that Jacob exists on some sort of plain. If he is behind the walt/christian shepherd/Kate's horse appearances on the island. Or if he's SmokeZilla. or if he's separate than SmokeZilla and ole Smokey is responsible for walt/christian shepherd/kate's horse appearances.

That's the fun of this show right now, nobody truly knows where this thing is going to go yet. We've all got our theories and they could all be true, but at the same time they could be totally off base.

[hbktonyb]

I tend to think Ben had that house rigged in some way to do all that mysterious shit...and the image locke saw was not really there, he was just kinda seeing things. either that, or it was smokie or some kind of hologram ben created. i still can't figure out why ben felt the need to shoot locke...

[Route_2]

I tend to think Ben had that house rigged in some way to do all that mysterious shit...and the image locke saw was not really there, he was just kinda seeing things. either that, or it was smokie or some kind of hologram ben created. i still can't figure out why ben felt the need to shoot locke...
Ben was threatened because he knew Locke could see and hear Jacob, where only Ben could before. Therefore, Ben would have no upper hand with his people if it were known there was some one else at or above his level to communicate with "the island"/Jacob.
I think as this season goes on you will see that Jacob is a tangible being.

[UNLTrpt]

agreed

[Flschbrger]

these friendly facts are certainly interesting.

[hbktonyb]

Ben was threatened because he knew Locke could see and hear Jacob, where only Ben could before. Therefore, Ben would have no upper hand with his people if it were known there was some one else at or above his level to communicate with "the island"/Jacob.
I think as this season goes on you will see that Jacob is a tangible being.

interesting, i like this theory a lot!:thumbsup

[ant_marching41]

Meh, this is kinda lame. I guess if you didn't get the S3 dvd this would get you updated in a way. I was looking for more "Easter Eggs" than a silly scrolling thingy. Example...


Charlie has been known for jammin' in the past....

funny that he's in a similar situation....

in the looking glass....

an underwater DHARMA station...


and so on... :lol

[smeritt]

It will forever bother me that Sarah would not give Jack a ride home from the hospital

[ant_marching41]

It will forever bother me that Sarah would not give Jack a ride home from the hospital
I always call her a bitch out loud when that comes up.

[UNLTrpt]

Meh, this is kinda lame. I guess if you didn't get the S3 dvd this would get you updated in a way. I was looking for more "Easter Eggs" than a silly scrolling thingy. Example...


Charlie has been known for jammin' in the past....

funny that he's in a similar situation....

in the looking glass....

an underwater DHARMA station...


and so on... :lol

I wasn't expecting a lot.

[hbktonyb]

Ya that was messed up. I bet you they put something hidden in here that we are not seeing yet...

[jmkratt]

Ok, I don't know if this has been discussed, I searched but didn't find anything but maybe I searched the wrong words.

Is it possible that Kate is pregnant and at the end of the season 3 finale when she says "I have to get back to him" she is referring to her baby son?

[ant_marching41]

I wasn't expecting a lot.
Neither was I. Just more easter eggs or clues to look for next season.

We did get the one about Benard's relative being a spinal surgeon who performed surgery on the woman from the car crash.

^ So more stuff like that. I wasn't expecting anything HUGE though.

[ant_marching41]

Ok, I don't know if this has been discussed, I searched but didn't find anything but maybe I searched the wrong words.

Is it possible that Kate is pregnant and at the end of the season 3 finale when she says "I have to get back to him" she is referring to her baby son?
I personally haven't thought about this as a possibility, nor have I seen it mentioned anywhere.

Very nice. :thumbsup

[smeritt]

Yea I was pretty positive Kate was pregnant just by how mad she gets at Sawyer and so forth. She knows theyve been doing it without a condom and theres a good chance little Sawyer is floating around in there

[smeritt]

Never knew about the anagram on the funeral parlor

[hbktonyb]

Ok, I don't know if this has been discussed, I searched but didn't find anything but maybe I searched the wrong words.

Is it possible that Kate is pregnant and at the end of the season 3 finale when she says "I have to get back to him" she is referring to her baby son?

ya that is a pretty popular theory. she was rumored to be pregnant on the island which is why the others want her. maybe she got off the island, had the baby (sawyer's?), and married him.

[ant_marching41]

ya that is a pretty popular theory. she was rumored to be pregnant on the island which is why the others want her. maybe she got off the island, had the baby (sawyer's?), and married him.
I always assumed this, but I also assumed that the "he" was Sawyer, and not her son.

[jmkratt]

I always assumed this, but I also assumed that the "he" was Sawyer, and not her son.

That was my assumption as well until I watched tonight's recap. Guess we'll find out...eventually, I hope!

[41ravens]

here's my theory. i think kate got knocked up by sawyer and when they get back to the main land, he bolts. and then he dies, which is the mystery person in the coffin. it would explain the "neither" friend or family, why no one was at the funeral and why kate would say, "why would i go?" i also believe that kate and jack had a relationship/affair when they got back to the main land. cause when he asks to meet her, he says, "yeah, the airport. you know the place." which implies they've obviously met there before.

just some new thoughts i had while watching tonight.

[UNLTrpt]

i loved the character promos during the episode tonight. Sawyer's "bad to the bone" was hilarious

[ant_marching41]

here's my theory. i think kate got knocked up by sawyer and when they get back to the main land, he bolts. and then he dies, which is the mystery person in the coffin. it would explain the "neither" friend or family, why no one was at the funeral and why kate would say, "why would i go?" i also believe that kate and jack had a relationship/affair when they got back to the main land. cause when he asks to meet her, he says, "yeah, the airport. you know the place." which implies they've obviously met there before.

just some new thoughts i had while watching tonight.
Thats certainly possible.

i loved the character promos during the episode tonight. Sawyer's "bad to the bone" was hilarious
That was funny.

"Why don't you come closer and warm me up."
"You sure know how to make a girl feel special Sawyer."

Classic.

[smeritt]

Ten bucks they don't get off the island in the first 8 episodes any takers? The premiere is going to end with that guy saying, we can't say rescuing your people is our primary objective. Any takers?

[Flschbrger]

Ten bucks they don't get off the island in the first 8 episodes any takers? The premiere is going to end with that guy saying, we can't say rescuing your people is our primary objective. Any takers?

I wish this wasnt true, but with the first hour being a re-cap, I can certainly see this as a possibility. And thats not so bad.

[JimiThang1]

24 is still better...
:lol

[dh4645]

Neither was I. Just more easter eggs or clues to look for next season.

We did get the one about Benard's relative being a spinal surgeon who performed surgery on the woman from the car crash.

^ So more stuff like that. I wasn't expecting anything HUGE though.


yeah, i knew most all that was typed except for that one.

[junior94]

another good post. totally agree.

Thank you. Yea another perfect example of this same sort of example from the last 10 years of filmmaking would be from the movie FIGHT CLUB. The scene where "Jack" and Tyler are driving in the car in the rain at night and they've got two junior members of Project Mayhem sitting in the backseat. Tyler in the driver's seat leans over to Jack and says "Why do you think I blew up your condo?!", and the two junior members look at each other like they're scared out of their minds.

Well on the first viewing, that makes sense to you, you're watching two guys talk and one just threatened the other by admitting that he blew up the guy's apartment.

However on the second viewing, you realize and understand it for what it truly is from their point of view, these two kids are watching a guy sitting entirely by himself in the front sit having a shouting match... with himself :lol So they're look at each other thinking "What the fuck is he doing??"


EDIT: furthermore, dammit. I wasn't feeling too well last night and ended up sleeping thru the entire pop-up video version of the finale. I kinda wanted to try watching it now, but I'm having some technical error on ABC's website of the stream, so I can't. And I don't know if it's been rippped and torrented, I'm not seeing it.

[junior94]

:lol

I read that same post last night and was laughing so hard from it that I didn't even bother wind up posting that I was laughing so hard from it. :p

[GinaNMU]

:multi :multi :multi HAPPY LOST DAY!!!!!!! :multi :multi :multi

omg I've been waiting SO LONG to say that again....

:D Can't waaaaaaait!

[malarks26]

:multi :multi :multi HAPPY LOST DAY!!!!!!! :multi :multi :multi

omg I've been waiting SO LONG to say that again....

:D Can't waaaaaaait!

I'm with you Gina, I definitely got the fever again after watching last night. :thumbsup

[junior94]

Well I was finally able to end up watching the enhanced version, it worked via FF.

Btw, the last two season premieres have both shown us immediately from the first frame things happening from a point of view we weren't already familiar with at all. Do we imagine this streak will continue tonight?

And lastly, AICN brings us the apparent list of the titles and the central characters of these first 8 eps (though it's not yet clear if they will be flashforwards or backs):

4x01 - The Beginning Of The End (Hurley)
4x02 - Confirmed Dead (The 'Rescuers')
4x03 - The Economist (Sayid)
4x04 - Eggtown (Kate)
4x05 - The Constant (Desmond)
4x06 - The Other Woman (Juliete)
4x07 - Yi Jeon (Sun & Jin)
4x08 - Meet Kevin Johnson (Michael)

[kurz41]

I didn't get a chance to see last night's airing. Did I miss anything important?

[malarks26]

I didn't get a chance to see last night's airing. Did I miss anything important?

Not so much, just some text at the bottom of the screen during the show, explaining and pointing out some of the back story and a few little tidbits.

[kurz41]

Thanks...

Has anybody watched "Sam's video"? There are 4 diaries that he has looking for his woman. (who I believe is the flight attendant who joined the others, the one from the back of the plane)

The Maxwell group that he speaks of...that could be Rousseau's group that was on the expedition, cause he talks about the boat that he has to find on the Black Rock. Is that who Naomi is part of?

[Route_2]

Thanks...

Has anybody watched "Sam's video"? There are 4 diaries that he has looking for his woman. (who I believe is the flight attendant who joined the others, the one from the back of the plane)

The Maxwell group that he speaks of...that could be Rousseau's group that was on the expedition, cause he talks about the boat that he has to find on the Black Rock. Is that who Naomi is part of?

I haven't been keeping up with this season's online game. But for those who don't know what he's talking about there is another interactive online game to compliment the show in the run-up to the new season.

If interested you can get caught up here:

http://find815.blogspot.com/

[DMBand520]

Well I was finally able to end up watching the enhanced version, it worked via FF.

Btw, the last two season premieres have both shown us immediately from the first frame things happening from a point of view we weren't already familiar with at all. Do we imagine this streak will continue tonight?

And lastly, AICN brings us the apparent list of the titles and the central characters of these first 8 eps (though it's not yet clear if they will be flashforwards or backs):

4x01 - The Beginning Of The End (Hurley)
4x02 - Confirmed Dead (The 'Rescuers')
4x03 - The Economist (Sayid)
4x04 - Eggtown (Kate)
4x05 - The Constant (Desmond)
4x06 - The Other Woman (Juliete)
4x07 - Yi Jeon (Sun & Jin)
4x08 - Meet Kevin Johnson (Michael)

I don't really mind knowing that info but that probably should've been in a spoiler. Some people might not have wanted the surprise ruined.

I think it's pretty big news knowing that the 2nd ep is going to give us some backstory on the rescuers and that in ep 8 Michael is going to be back somehow (maybe we find out what happened to him and Walt from the time they left the island?)

[kurz41]

I actually saw his 4 diaries on abc's site.

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/index?pn=index

Just saw that there's a 5th one.

[hbktonyb]

yikes, no jackbacks/forwards in the first 8 episodes! i need to know more!

tptb said that they were disappointed with the strike because a lot of people will not be pleased. they didn't mean for this season to be 8 episodes, they were going to wrap up what they started in the first 8 episodes with the second 8. damn strike!~!!!

i think the person in the casket was ben. wasn't the casket kind of short? i think jack was crying because after he left the island, he knew that he should have just listened to ben. ben was one of the people that got to leave the island and jack was working with ben to return but couldn't. ben's cancer returned and he died. ben didn't have anyone at the funeral because when he returned to the mainland he really didn't have many friends. just a crazy theory!

[malarks26]

I don't really mind knowing that info but that probably should've been in a spoiler. Some people might not have wanted the surprise ruined.

I think it's pretty big news knowing that the 2nd ep is going to give us some backstory on the rescuers and that in ep 8 Michael is going to be back somehow (maybe we find out what happened to him and Walt from the time they left the island?)

I agree, it should have been spoiler info.

[cryfreedom4136]

http://stars.ign.com/articles/848/848720p1.html

I read about half of it, its pretty interesting

[hbktonyb]

agreed, that was kind of a spoiler but i don't mind knowing which flashbacks/forwards are coming.

[kurz41]

They must've just added the 5th one today. Good stuff. I think we'll see him in this season.

[hbktonyb]

Here is the recap/rating from ign - not really filled with spoilers, but just in case you want to go in totally fresh. They rated the episode a 9.1 out of 10. Just to compare, they rated last year's finale a 9.0 out of 10!:

Lost: "The Beginning of the End" Advance Review
With rescue imminent, the survivors of Flight 815 face an important decision.
by Chris Carabott

January 30, 2008 - "Through the Looking Glass" was a phenomenal end to a season that started off slow but picked up immensely through the second half. Slumping ratings began to show improvement and the Internet was once again rampant with Lost fever. The last two hours of season three were filled to the brim with moments that would leave fans yearning for more over the next several months. "Not Penny's boat," Charlie's climactic death, the coffin, Sayid, Jin and Bernard making a stand against the Others, Jack's suspenseful first contact with the outside world and "We have to go back, Kate! WE HAVE TO GO BACK!" How do you top that? You don't, at least not right now. This is a new season and with a clear finish line in 2010, Lost can pace itself evenly through the next 48 episode while telling a much more coherent story than what we received in the first three seasons. This is what "The Beginning of the End" does so well; it maintains the strong momentum of "Through the Looking Glass" but with the comforting feeling that the creative staff has a much clearer vision of how the story will play itself out.

"The Beginning of the End" picks up right where events from the finale left off without missing a beat. Jack has just made contact with the boat and for a short period of time everyone is given the opportunity to celebrate. This is the moment they've been waiting for and it's just as we pictured it - a time to rejoice but not without that undercurrent of dread that things could go wrong at any moment. Setting the rescue midway through the series is the best decision that Cuse and Lindelof could have made. They now have the option of flipping the narrative on its proverbial head and telling stories from several different directions. This is a brand new ball game. "The Beginning of the End" takes advantage of this opportunity right off the bat and without going into too much detail for those of you worried about spoilers – it works.

There are plenty of character moments for fans to sink their teeth into including a touching moment between Hurley and Claire that will leave you hard-pressed not to shed a tear. However, Michael Emerson once again steals the show as the manipulative Benjamin Linus. It's amazing how this character can be bloodied, beaten, tied by a rope and dragged across the island but still somehow be completely in control. A simple hug between Jack and Kate turns into an incredible opportunity for Ben to question Jack's ability as a leader and by episode's end, Jack, who was once celebrating their rescue, is at a mental breaking point. Make no mistake; Ben is a tactical genius.

As Charlie's warning makes its way back to the survivors of Flight 815 a sense of despair sets in and the episode culminates in a decision that has to be made. A decision that will have Earth-shattering implications on how these characters develop throughout the rest of the series. It isn't quite evident when the decision is being made but a scene soon afterwards reveals that it has traumatic effects on those who had to make. The backdrop for this key decision is the front-cockpit section of Oceanic Flight 815 and one particular scene has Kate and Jack staring into the belly of the plane. It is a poignant moment and a great visual reference for just how far this series has progressed in such a short period of time.

"The Beginning of the End" does an excellent job of wrapping up the events of last season's finale but there are plenty of new moments in this episode to get excited about. You'll know them when you see them and one in particular will have you rewinding your DVR several times to make sure your eyes aren't deceiving you. A couple of new characters are introduced, with more to come next week. Right now, we can tell you that one of them is easily going to be a fan favorite after you see his enigmatic discussion with Hurley.

If the paragraphs above haven't convinced you, "The Beginning of the End" is a great start to what promises to be an exciting, yet truncated, season four. The momentum and pacing is on par with last season's finale and there are plenty of mysteries and surprises to keep fans madly speculating until next week's episode.

[DMBand520]

I actually saw his 4 diaries on abc's site.

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/index?pn=index

Just saw that there's a 5th one.

Wow I just watched all 5 of these. That's pretty crazy. So they found the black rock and it's at the bottom of the ocean? That's interesting since they said they found flight 815 at the bottom of the ocean too. It's a little crazy but what if there is some type of "portal" at the bottom of the ocean at this one particular point that you have to pass through to get to the island. That would explain why they need the sub to get to/leave the island. Hmmm....

[malarks26]

Wow I just watched all 5 of these. That's pretty crazy. So they found the black rock and it's at the bottom of the ocean? That's interesting since they said they found flight 815 at the bottom of the ocean too. It's a little crazy but what if there is some type of "portal" at the bottom of the ocean at this one particular point that you have to pass through to get to the island. That would explain why they need the sub to get to/leave the island. Hmmm....

Never thought of that, kind of like a Bermuda Triangle eh?

[junior94]

I don't really mind knowing that info but that probably should've been in a spoiler. Some people might not have wanted the surprise ruined.

I think it's pretty big news knowing that the 2nd ep is going to give us some backstory on the rescuers and that in ep 8 Michael is going to be back somehow (maybe we find out what happened to him and Walt from the time they left the island?)

Meh.. I remember somebody had a problem with me doing this last season as well when I found out the names, but honestly I didn't really care, I thought they were overreacting quite a bit. I mean we're nothing like the people are in the "24" thread, they're ridiculously anal over there (with Matt the overlord) and you'll practically be banned if you talk about what's even shown in the "stay tuned for scenes from next week's episode" bit at the end of each show. That's just ridiculous.

Besides, one of the biggest "surprises" from that list isn't even really a surprise, seeing we'd have another Michael episode coming up, after all we've known pretty much from when the s3 finale aired that Michael & Walt would definitely be returning to the show.

Oh and to the person who brought up that side story of the Australian looking for his girlfriend who was the other flight attendant -- that girl is NOT Cindy, the brunette who was with the Tailies that was mysteriously abducted by the Others in season 2 when they were carrying Sawyer on the stretcher. The girl that this "Sam" guy is talking about is a blonde woman we'd never seen before that online thing started (at least not directly, I mean knowing this show she might very well have been like in the background or something on some of the plane shots only for a second flash)

[Route_2]

I agree, it should have been spoiler info.

I agree as well. But, if it's any consolation, I have actually seen lists from reliable sources that contradict a couple of the names on Kevin's list. The character flashforward/backs, not the episode titles.

[tgg5014]

Does anybody else think the freighter is going to crash or sink or something? Judging by the Black Rock, Yemi's plane, Henry Gale's balloon, Naomi's helicopter and 815 it seems like it should. Obviously, just because I think it should happen for continuity's sake doesn't mean it will.

[JorgeCavos]

Unless the freighter people are there for some mission that is not primarily to rescue the Losties...