Chicago Cubs

[gocubsgo3822]

we are going to lose this one

[DMBZeppelin]

MOTHER FUCKER!!!!! I'm so pissed, I really wanted Harden to get the W he deserved. I really think Lou wanted to leave Marmol in and let him work himself out. But seriously, there's no way he'd let any other reliever struggle this much.

[Tiduwho]

Unfucking real.


This is just a fucking joke.


A fucking joke.


WHY THE FUCK WAS MARMOL PITCHING AT ALL!!?!??!?!??!??!?!?!


WHY IS HE STILL IN!?!?!?!??!??!?!?!?!?!?


WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUK!?!!??@?@??@!?@?@!

[Mario82288]

Sucks that Harden is not going to get the W for his debut. He pitched great!!

[gocubsgo3822]

Fuck This!!!!!!

[DMBZeppelin]

Sucks that Harden is not going to get the W for his debut. He pitched great!!
It's like Marmol is channeling Alfonseca.

[gocubsgo3822]

i couldnt be any more pissed off right now WTF marmol

[Tiduwho]

Marmol should have been pulled. This is embarassing. Embarassing.

You DO NOT leave a struggling reliever on the mound to work things out in this kind of situation. With that lead.


YOU FUCKING DO IT IN A BLOWOUT LOSSS.

STUPID FUCKING FUCK SHIT>

[Mario82288]

How about a walk off HR to get this shitty taste out of our mouths?

[gocubsgo3822]

i am in utter disbelief and shock right now

[DMBZeppelin]

Honestly I don't get what the point of that was. Had Marmol given up 1 or 2 more runs, and we lose. What kind of answer would Lou have for that? "You went into the ninth with a 7-2 lead. When it got to 7-7, why didn't you pull Marmol?" because he obviously had no intention of pulling him.

[gocubsgo3822]

really fucked up that harden does not get a W... great job Hart and Marmol

[gocubsgo3822]

if we dont win this one i can see the tailspin....

[gocubsgo3822]

i am fucking disgusted

[DMBZeppelin]

if we dont win this one i can see the tailspin....
Ya do you honestly think any of our players have the right mind set? The Giants have all the momentum thinking they can steal this game. Everyone on our team is probably just thinking "FUCK!" even if you win it still feels like a loss.

[DMBZeppelin]

Alex Hinshaw a Giants rookie had this to say about Wrigley
"You go to some parks, and the fans are just there to hang out," Hinshaw said. "Here, they pay attention to every pitch and they're involved in everything. It's like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. 'Passionate' is an understatement. Fans like that are special."
In other news, I'm so fucking pissed at Piniella leaving Marmol in.

[DMBZeppelin]

Updated Season ERA's *Through 9 innings today
Rich Harden - 2.19 ERA
Chad Gaudin - 3.58 ERA
Kevin Hart - 7.23 ERA
Neil Cotts - 2.87 ERA
Bob Howry - 4.50 ERA
Carlos Marmol - 4.13 ERA

[MPizzle06]

What the FUCK was THAT.

If we lose, fucking tailspin indeed going into the break. WHAT THE FUCK LOU why in all flying FUCKDOM would you leave that struggling asshole IN THE GAME?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! :BANG :BANG :BANG

[DMBZeppelin]

At a boy Marshall, better then Lillquis I tell ya. I just wish Lou would have fucking brought you in when we still had a lead.

[gocubsgo3822]

Zep you really are in the Lilly hater club... He hasnt been that amazing this year but he is a solid #4 at this point

[DMBZeppelin]

Zep you really are in the Lilly hater club... He hasnt been that amazing this year but he is a solid #4 at this point
Marshall has a 3.95 ERA right now. Lilly has a 4.68 ERA on the season. Last year Lilly had the benefit of hitters not knowing him. So it stands as his second best season ever.

2008: 4.68 ERA
2007: 3.83 ERA
2006: 4.31 ERA
2005: 5.56 ERA
2004: 4.06 ERA
2003: 4.34 ERA
2002: 3.69 ERA
2001: 5.37 ERA
2000: 5.63 ERA
1999: 7.61 ERA

As much as I'd love to believe Lilly could repeat last year, his own history says it's unlikely. He does have some good outings. Hell Marquis has some good outings. My problem is how inconsistent they are. Not to mention when they've been bad this year, they've both been REALLY bad. But you really think those numbers say "Championship pitcher?" or the guy who couldn't make the Cards post season roster. He wasn't even in our post season rotation last season. I have zero faith in those guys.

[MPizzle06]

God dammit...I am so fucking pissed off right now.

[gocubsgo3822]

un fucking believeable.. Welcome to choke city Rich Harden

[gocubsgo3822]

yea i dont know whats up with lilly i agree but he is better than i think you think he is.. What we really need is for Rich Hill to get his shit together

[DMBZeppelin]

Marshall has his ERA down to 3.81, and hopefully DeRosa doesn't strike out on not bunting here.

[DMBZeppelin]

THAT'S IT CUBBIES! Fotenot better just bunt them over.

[DMBZeppelin]

yea i dont know whats up with lilly i agree but he is better than i think you think he is.. What we really need is for Rich Hill to get his shit together
Hill being Hill would be FANTASTIC. He's going to be in AAA soon, so who knows. I like Lilly's stuff, but stuff doesn't equal success. I just don't get why you think he's so good. His whole career is filled with suckage. And oh god Lilly is in the pen.

[gocubsgo3822]

we better fucking score here

[Mario82288]

Wow .. close play! Cubs win!

[DMBZeppelin]

YES! YES! YES! YES! BY THE TIP OF A CLEAT!!!!! CUBS WIN!!! CUBS WIN!!!! WOOOOOO!!!!! Reed Johnson, hasn't been great lately but way to pull through.

[jayhawks32]

REED JOHNSON!! hell yeah.
i like how Len Kasper squeeked on the play-by-play
SAAAEEEiiFFEE!!!:lol :lol :lol :lol

[DMBZeppelin]

The 57-37 Cubs have the best record in baseball, up 1 game on Tampa. They are also obviously 20 games over .500 again. All is well.

[gocubsgo3822]

Hill being Hill would be FANTASTIC. He's going to be in AAA soon, so who knows. I like Lilly's stuff, but stuff doesn't equal success. I just don't get why you think he's so good. His whole career is filled with suckage. And oh god Lilly is in the pen.

he was pretty good last year and i think he can do it.....

CUBS WIN!!!!!!!

CUBS WIN!!!!!!!!!

:bounce

[gocubsgo3822]

close play at home??? i am at work sorry

[MPizzle06]

Yes!!!! CUBS WIN!! Best record in Baseball!! 20 over .500!!

Damn we were close to possibly a season-changing loss there...but instead the Cubbies FOUND A WAY!!!

[gocubsgo3822]

what a fucking joke of a game... Hrden should get the win.... A win is a win but some wins feel like a loss. Lets sweep tomorrow... Good job Rich and Sean

[gocubsgo3822]

20 games over .500!!!!!

:bounce

[Mario82288]

Yeah, Reed Johnson singled bringing in the runner from 2nd. It was a very close play at home! He almost looked out, it was inches! We'll take it though.

[DMBZeppelin]

he was pretty good last year and i think he can do it.....

CUBS WIN!!!!!!!

CUBS WIN!!!!!!!!!
Hey Murton hit close to .350 his first year up, and even Todd Hollandsworth had his moments. I hope he returns to the 07' Lilly. But just because he did something once in his 30's doesn't mean he's likely to do it again. Especially with a track record that goes against last year.

[DMBZeppelin]

Piniella just said because of the blister Wood will not pitch again till after the break, he probably won't even be available in the All Star game. He's talking about what he hoped Marmol learned today.

[gocubsgo3822]

^ were people fucking grilling Lou today... I can imagine he was not happy

[DMBZeppelin]

ESPN's link to today's game is a little off: Cubs clip Blue Jays with walk-off hit in 11th inning (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=280712116)

Blue Jays? Not even the same league. Harden is on Comcast doing his post game right now. He seems like he's in a pretty good mood. He was smiling at the start of it, and he seems to really like Wrigley.

[DMBZeppelin]

^ were people fucking grilling Lou today... I can imagine he was not happy
They didn't grill him, because he had an answer for everything. Including what he thought Marmol did wrong. He also said he left Marmol in when it was 7-5, because the guy coming up was a righty. He thought he'd get out of it. Piniella said he was really impressed with Marshall. He gave Edmonds a little praise as well.

[gocubsgo3822]

Marshall was fucking awesome today... All were good cept hart and marmol... really a shame Harden didnt get a win.... Did he say anything about how he felt?

[bothedmbfan]

I'm sorry Bo.

I've poisoned your wine.

It's a good thing I don't drink.

[HolyCow]

I was so pissed, I couldn't even post. It would have just been a string of swear words.

I'm glad we won. But I'm pissed about how. It's unusual to be pissed about a win. Goodbye old Cub mindset, hello new one.

[HolyCow]

And Zep, how about Marshall, again. Someone tell me why he isn't locked into the rotation again?

[bothedmbfan]

BEcause they're not paying him many millions of dollars a year.

[DMBZeppelin]

Marshall was fucking awesome today... All were good cept hart and marmol... really a shame Harden didnt get a win.... Did he say anything about how he felt?
He said all he cares about was that we won.
And Zep, how about Marshall, again. Someone tell me why he isn't locked into the rotation again?
Ya Marshall is a guy who Greg Maddux was big on when he was here. Listen to Mad dog. We have so much $ spent in Lilly and Marquis. I mean this isn't rocket science.

Lilly: 4.68 ERA (3.83 ERA in 07')
Marquis: 4.44 ERA (4.60 ERA in 07')
Marshall: 3.81 ERA (3.92 ERA in 07')

Marshall is by no means perfect, but he's a solid guy. A bad outing for him he'll give up like 4 runs. Which could happen to any of these three. But you never hear "Oh well Marshall gave up 7 runs today." but I can't say that about the first two.

Also Marshall is 25, and only getting better. The arrow is going up, where as Lilly is 32 and Marquis 29. Marshall's only bad year was his rookie 06' year. Where he had a 3 something ERA until that oblique injury. After he came back he did get rocked. But his second year last year, and this year he's been solid. Yet we put people doing less in front of him.

[DMBZeppelin]

I know some of you love Lilly, but seriously. Look at how much better we'd be on any given day going without him:

Current Rotation:
1. Zambrano, 2.84 ERA
2. Harden, 2.19 ERA
3. Dempster, 3.13 ERA
4. Lilly, 4.68 ERA
5. Marquis, 4.44 ERA

My Rotation:
1. Zambrano, 2.84 ERA
2. Harden, 2.19 ERA
3. Dempster, 3.13 ERA
4. Marshall, 3.81 ERA
5. Gaudin, 3.58 ERA

[DMBZeppelin]

The first big series out of the ASB is against the Brewers July 28-31. Pretty big since they could make up a lot of ground on us. The projected matchups are:

Game 1: Lilly V.s. Sabathia
Game 2: Zambrano V.s. Sheets
Game 3: Dempster V.s. Parra
Game 4: Haren V.s. ? (probably McClung)

There's a series against St. Louis August 8-10. We have an off day before it. So if we wanted to, in that series we could throw Zambrano, Demp, and Haren at them on normal rest. But because Haren is going to get extra rest here and there. I doubt they will, and go with Lilly, Zambrano, and Demp instead.

[gocubsgo3822]

Rich hill had another good day at rookie ball and appears headed to AAA soon

[gocubsgo3822]

cards and brewers both losing early

[gocubsgo3822]

aand on another note i am in first place on the post count :bounce :bounce :bounce

[gocubsgo3822]

and on another note Harden was hitting 98 today and said that his arm felt great

[DMBZeppelin]

and on another note Harden was hitting 98 today and said that his arm felt great
"I had a lot of people tell me this was going to be a good experience. It was," Harden said of his Wrigley love-in. "It was a pretty cool feeling. I've never had anything like that, pitching in Oakland. It's easier to pitch here with the crowd into every pitch. It's exciting, and I'll use it as motivation to give me a push. From what I hear, it's like that every game. It's pretty impressive."

Edit: I'm glad he enjoys it here, I think that will definetly help us resign him.

[gocubsgo3822]

^ it sounds like he really likes it here.... I really like him i think he is going to be awesome...

[gocubsgo3822]

st louis now crushing... Brewers losing by one

[DMBZeppelin]

Hey, I don't know if anyone else has an iPhone in here. If you do download AOL radio. There's a link to CBS radio stations.

Local Chicago radio stations you can stream on this: 104.3 FM (Jack FM), 670 AM (670 the Score), 93.1 FM (93XRT), 9?.? (B96, I forget the station), 780 AM (WBBM Newsradio 780). If only they had 720 AM and I could stream Cubs games.

Now my only question is, if I'm streaming 780 AM on my iPhone this fall. Will I be able to listen to the Bears game? Or would they block it out on the stream?

[DMBZeppelin]

st louis now crushing... Brewers losing by one
They crushed themselves
The Cardinals appeared to be cruising with a season-high 22 hits while taking leads of 9-3 in the seventh and 10-4 in the eighth, but Jason Bay (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7143) hit his second two-run homer of the game in the eighth.


The Pirates tied it with four runs in the ninth on Nate McLouth (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7513)'s three-run shot off Jason Isringhausen (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5449) and Bay's fifth RBI of the game, on a force-play grounder.


Troy Glaus (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6063) homered leading off the 10th for St. Louis' 10th extra-base hit, but the Cardinals' unreliable bullpen couldn't hold this lead, either. Cardinals relievers have lost 20 games and lead the majors with 22 blown saves.


The Cardinals outhit the Pirates 22-13 but left 12 on base.
The Brewers fell to the Reds 8-2, so all in all a good day in the Central.

NL Central Standings
Team Games Behind
Chicago (-)
St. Louis (5.5)
Milwaukee (6)
Cincinnati (11.5)
Pittsburgh (12.5)
Houston (14)

[Bron Yr Aur]

Marquis had a 4.91 ERA in June. Lilly has a 4.68 ERA on the season. Only because he did have a great June. He posted a 3.02 ERA that month. Though in his two July starts he has a 6.23 ERA.

History says both will suck in the 2nd half. Especially Marquis.

I don't really get what you have against Lilly. He has pitched well for us. Sure, he's no ace, and he gives up some runs and his fair share of homers, but he almost always keeps the team in the game, and has pitched well other than the short outing last week against Cincinnati.

And Marquis has been throwing excellently other than the start against Baltimore. I would just relax until one of them starts really having issues. Right now they are GREAT 4 and 5 options.

[gocubsgo3822]

:thumbsup I agree with this post. fucking awesome that we gained a full game on both teams today...

[bothedmbfan]

Cubs.

[Mario82288]

Cubs.

[UCFish]

Cubs.

Just happy that we got the win yesterday. It made my day.

[Tiduwho]

I don't really get what you have against Lilly. He has pitched well for us. Sure, he's no ace, and he gives up some runs and his fair share of homers, but he almost always keeps the team in the game, and has pitched well other than the short outing last week against Cincinnati.

And Marquis has been throwing excellently other than the start against Baltimore. I would just relax until one of them starts really having issues. Right now they are GREAT 4 and 5 options.

Aigh.

In Marquis' last 8 starts, 6 of them were quality outings (3 runs or less).

In Lilly's last 8 starts? The same. 6 of them quality.

That's what you ask out of your 4th and 5th starters.


You can't just look at ERA numbers. When you only pitch 2 1/3, your ERA will look horrible for giving up 4 runs. But if he had stayed in and pitched 6, it wouldnt have been too bad.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Cubs.

[Tripping Billy7]

Dempster's lookin good

[jayhawks32]

always lookin good at home

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Dempster's lookin good

until that little boo boo. Ooops 3 runs just like that...

Demps needs teh relax.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

WGN Poll Question:
Who is the most valuable "non-allstar" player on the Cubs?

Lee
Derosa
Johson
Theriot
Edmonds

The answer is clearly Edmonds.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Don't put Cotts in Don't put Cotts in Don't put Cotts in Don't put Cotts in Don't put Cotts in Don't put Cotts in Don't put Cotts in Don't put Cotts in Don't put Cotts in Don't put Cotts in Don't put Cotts in Don't put Cotts in

this is gonna be bad...

[devilandthelord]

I move for a vote of no confidence in Neal Cotts.

[gocubsgo3822]

grrr. Sea buiscuit is good

[gocubsgo3822]

rally time

[devilandthelord]

Awesome!

C'mon Cubs! Keep it going!

[gocubsgo3822]

we got something going

[DMBtheStoned]

Damn..Ward at least he didn't roll into a DP

[gocubsgo3822]

lets do this scrappy

[devilandthelord]

Damn..Ward at least he didn't roll into a DP

Yeah, thats exactly what I was hoping when I saw he was down 0-2.
I was like, if you're not gonna get a hit, just strike out. Please no DPs!

[devilandthelord]

Ah well thats depressing.

I thought we were gonna make the comeback.

[gocubsgo3822]

fuck oh well good first half fellas we will be good in the second half

[devilandthelord]

Yep, good first half is right.

I was looking at Edmonds numbers with the Cubs and through today he's played 44 games for us and has 9 HRs and 29 RBI as a Cub.
If you divide 162/44 you get 3.68

If we multiply Edmonds numbers out by 3.68 to see what he'd have if he played like has for us so far for a full season that works out to about 33 HRs and 106 RBI.

Pretty fucking good. I'll take it.
And he's playing good defense.

This is starting to look like a genius move by Hendry.
And I admit I was wrong about it.

[MPizzle06]

Great first half Cubbies!!!

Not trying to get ahead of myself, but I LOVE that we've demolished the NL West this year so far, since *if* we win the Central, we'll more than likely play the West Division winners since the Wild Card will most likely come out of the Central :thumbsup

Stay. Healthy. Cubs. PLEASE!

[devilandthelord]

Yeah thats true though.
Unlike last year I think it would be us dominating the D'backs. And we'd certainly kill anybody else in that division as well.

[gocubsgo3822]

Really excited for the second half i think we will be even better... AND ON ANOTHER NOTE.......

MARMOL is an ALL STAR!!!!! :lol :lol :lol

[devilandthelord]

Really excited for the second half i think we will be even better... AND ON ANOTHER NOTE.......

MARMOL is an ALL STAR!!!!! :lol :lol :lol

Yeah I saw that. Its just because Wood isn't playing and at the time the votes were tallied he had the next most.

But he certainly doesn't deserve it today.

Oh well, maybe being named an all-star will make him feel better and get him out of his funk.

[Tiduwho]

Well, it was a great first half. Let's get Wood and Soriano healthy.

[gocubsgo3822]

i heard soriano might have hit a delay...

[gocubsgo3822]

Cubs

[Tiduwho]

i heard soriano might have hit a delay...

Speak no more of this ill will.....

[gocubsgo3822]

Speak no more of this ill will.....

jsut keeping yall updated..

on another note.. Anyone with extra Deer Creek

[thebestauntie]

Cubs.

Just happy that we got the win yesterday. It made my day.
I can't believe you didn't lead in with "I met "thebestauntie" this weekend! :eek:lorraine:D:lol

[clayj41]

I can't believe you didn't lead in with "I met "thebestauntie" this weekend! :eek:lorraine:D:lol

Cubs come first. :D

[thebestauntie]

Cubs come first. :D
Okay, I'll give him that. But I should have at least rated a secondary mention! :lol

[clayj41]

Okay, I'll give him that. But I should have at least rated a secondary mention! :lol

Nope this time of the year there's the Cubs and then there's everything else. You fall into the latter category.

[UCFish]

I can't believe you didn't lead in with "I met "thebestauntie" this weekend! :eek:lorraine:D:lol

:thumbsup

It was very nice to meet you.

[devilandthelord]

Nope this time of the year there's the Cubs and then there's everything else. You fall into the latter category.

QFMothefuckinT.

[bothedmbfan]

Ditka.

[gocubsgo3822]

get out of here Bo...




















Cubs

[thebestauntie]

:thumbsup

It was very nice to meet you.
;):) It was a great time.
QFMothefuckinT.
You just get a :p
get out of here Bo...


Cubs
So now that I've met your brother, when do I get to meet your parents? :lol:lol






Cubs.

[gocubsgo3822]

^ :lol who knows that shits funny though

[thom hudson]

I believe that the Cubs will win it all this year.

[gocubsgo3822]

me 2

[thebestauntie]

^ :lol who knows that shits funny though
Thanks, I thought it up on the plane last night. I'll let you guys get back to your Cubs talk. :)

[gocubsgo3822]

:lol you meet me in the busiest airport in the world and the drunken bafoon in WPB... nice. You are always welcome here :)

[thebestauntie]

:lol you meet me in the busiest airport in the world and the drunken bafoon in WPB... nice. You are always welcome here :)
Awww, thanks. :o :)

[gocubsgo3822]

^ some peple come in and act like douche bags... you dont

[thebestauntie]

^ some peple come in and act like douche bags... you dont
That's how I lull people into complacency. :lol But I like the Cubs, I've got nothing against them and I think it would great for baseball for them to finally win a Pennant.

Oh, and for the record, Greg (groton) was the one who introduced me to your brother. I had no idea that you guys were related!

[gocubsgo3822]

That's how I lull people into complacency. :lol But I like the Cubs, I've got nothing against them and I think it would great for baseball for them to finally win a Pennant.

Oh, and for the record, Greg (groton) was the one who introduced me to your brother. I had no idea that you guys were related!


did he tell you then or dd you find otu on your own from sme crafty backreading

[thebestauntie]

did he tell you then or dd you find otu on your own from sme crafty backreading
No, Greg was telling me that he was your brother, but Greg was a little drunk and I wasn't quite figuring out what screen name he was saying (for your brother). So he dragged me over to him so I could figure it out. :lol The first thing your brother said to me after I introduced myself was "oh yeah, you met my brother in the Chicago airport on the way home". I lol'd!!

[gocubsgo3822]

No, Greg was telling me that he was your brother, but Greg was a little drunk and I wasn't quite figuring out what screen name he was saying (for your brother). So he dragged me over to him so I could figure it out. :lol The first thing your brother said to me after I introduced myself was "oh yeah, you met my brother in the Chicago airport on the way home". I lol'd!!

:lol thats really funny..... interesting... I dont think i have ever met Greg i could be wrong though

[thebestauntie]

:lol thats really funny..... interesting... I dont think i have ever met Greg i could be wrong though
He didn't mention if he'd ever met you, he just knew your screen name.

[gocubsgo3822]

Cubs!!!

[UCFish]

Cubs!

[MPizzle06]

***2008 N.L. Central Standings***

Chicago 57-38 [.600] -- 67 Games Remaining
St. Louis 53-43 [.552] 4.5 GB -- 66 Games Remaining
Milwaukee 52-43 [.547] 5 GB -- 67 Games Remaining
Cincinnati 46-50 [.479] 11.5 GB -- 66 Games Remaining
Pittsburgh 44-50 [.468] 12.5 GB -- 68 Games Remaining
Houston 44-51 [.463] 13 GB -- 67 Games Remaining

[DMBZeppelin]

I'm going to do a little research when I get off work tonight. But I've been wondering about teams with the best record in baseball at the All Star break. How many haven't won their divison, and if they've ever missed the playoffs post wild card.

[gocubsgo3822]

I support research :thumbsup

[gocubsgo3822]

Kosuke is hitting 8th and Soto is hitting 9th in the all star game starting lineups...


Sheets starts

[DMBtheStoned]

Cubs.

[bothedmbfan]

Queen is a good band.
Cubs are a good team.
Malcolm X was our shining black prince.
Jeopardy is a good show.
Roberto Benigni is a funny man.

[MPizzle06]

Cubs.

[gocubsgo3822]

^^ malcom X sucks Bo.....

Cubs

[41ravens]

cubs.



and with that, i have returned. sorta. did anyone even notice i was missing?

[devilandthelord]

cubs.



and with that, i have returned. sorta. did anyone even notice i was missing?

Hey, did you move yet?

[41ravens]

Hey, did you move yet?

yep. we're all moved in. started the job today. life should be getting back on a regular schedule now. which sucks, cause it means i have to eliminate the afternoon nap i've become accustomed to.

[gocubsgo3822]

welcome back Cubs

[devilandthelord]

Now onto worrying about winning the All-Star Game so we can have home field advantage in the WS.

[gocubsgo3822]

^ the nL really needs to win

[thebestauntie]

^ the nL really needs to win
On this point, I'm going to have to disagree with you. :)

[demar727]

On this point, I'm going to have to disagree with you. :)


and i know what we will all agree on


take your AL ass out of NL threads

[thebestauntie]

and i know what we will all agree on


take your AL ass out of NL threads
Hmmm, let me think about that...

NOPE! :p

Plus, I've been given permission:
:lol you meet me in the busiest airport in the world and the drunken bafoon in WPB... nice. You are always welcome here :)

[devilandthelord]

Fuck it doesn't matter for the Red Sox, they're not making the WS this year anyway.

[thebestauntie]

Fuck it doesn't matter for the Red Sox, they're not making the WS this year anyway.
Oh come on, a Sox/Cubs WS would be epic!

[devilandthelord]

Oh come on, a Sox/Cubs WS would be epic!

Nope.
It would have been in 2003 like it was supposed to be.
But neither one of us even made it.

And besides, the Sox just aren't this year.
They don't go in consecutive years.
It just doesn't happen.

[clayj41]

Oh come on, a Sox/Cubs WS would be epic!

Blech...:thumbsdow

[thebestauntie]

Nope.
It would have been in 2003 like it was supposed to be.
But neither one of us even made it.

And besides, the Sox just aren't this year.
They don't go in consecutive years.
It just doesn't happen.
Well until 4 years ago, the Sox didn't win a Word Series either, but things change. :);)

I would still like to see a Cubs/Sox World Series. That way, I'd be happy no matter who won.

[DMBZeppelin]

I'm going to do a little research when I get off work tonight. But I've been wondering about teams with the best record in baseball at the All Star break. How many haven't won their divison, and if they've ever missed the playoffs post wild card.

I support research :thumbsup
I'll look into this more, but just quickly using these two links.
1. All-Star Game History on Baseball Almanac (http://baseball-almanac.com/asgmenu.shtml) - Has dates of All-Star games.
2. Regular Season Standings (http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standings/index.jsp) - Has final standings through 2001, and standings of any day during the season through 2005.

So I'm going to show the team(s) with the best record at the All-Star Break, then team with the best record in final standings. In addition who played in and won the World Series. This is just the start, I'll make an updated post once I can find better sources. Any suggestions where else I can look to find this info?

I intend to at least date this back to 1995, to see if any team with the best record, at the break, has missed the playoffs since the Wild Card came into effect. I think we all know about the 69' Cubs who I believe had the best record at the break. Though the thing about that is there were only two divisions. We were in the NL East, and there was no Wild Card. It's a lot easier to make the playoffs now.

So this is just basically a template till I find out more.

2008 ASB: Chicago Cubs/Anaheim 57-38 (.600%)
2008 Final: n/a
World Series: n/a

2007 ASB: Boston 53-34 (.609%)
2007 Final: Boston/Cleveland 96-66 (.593%)
World Series: Boston over Colorado

2006 ASB: Detroit 59-20 (.670%)
2006 Final: New York Yankees/Mets 97-65 (.599%)
World Series: St. Louis over Detroit

2005 ASB: Chicago White Sox 57-29 (.663%)
2005 Final: St. Louis 100-62 (.617%)
World Series: Chicago White Sox over Houston

2004 ASB: New York Yankees 53-31 *Unoffical source
2004 Final: St. Louis 105-57 (.648)
World Series: Boston over St. Louis

2003 ASB:
2003 Final: Atlanta/NY Yankees 101-61 (.623%)
World Series: Florida over NY Yankees

2002 ASB:
2002 Final: New York Yankees 103-58 (.640%) *only 161 games?
World Series: Anaheim over Giants

2001 ASB:
2001 Final: Seattle 116-46 (.716%) *Piniella managed team
World Series: Arizona over NY Yankees

2000 ASB:
2000 Final: San Francisco 97-65 (.599%)
World Series: NY Yankees over Mets

1999 ASB:
1999 Final: Atlanta 103-59 (.636%)
World Series: NY Yankees over Atlanta

1998 ASB:
1998 Final: NY Yankees 114-48 (.704%)
World Series: NY Yankees over San Diego

1997 ASB:
1997 Final: Atlanta 101-61 (.623%)
World Series: Florida over Cleveland

1996 ASB:
1996 Final: Cleveland 99-62 (.615%)
World Series: NY Yankees over Braves

1995 ASB:
1995 Final: Cleveland 100-44 (.694%)
World Series: Atlanta over Cleveland

[thebestauntie]

Blech...:thumbsdow
Oh :p

[bothedmbfan]

^^ malcom X sucks Bo.....

Cubs

Why does he suck? Or is this just more racism?

[gocubsgo3822]

because he was a fucking radical hippie muslim. you black bo?

[bothedmbfan]

because he was a fucking radical hippie muslim. you black bo?

The last year of his life was the part I really admired, but I liked everything about him after he converted to Islam.

And, no, I'm not black.

[MPizzle06]

The last year of his life was the part I really admired, but I liked everything about him after he converted to Islam.

And, no, I'm not black.

You sure? You look black in your avatar...

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

I miss Ron Santo's dumb voice.

[bothedmbfan]

You sure? You look black in your avatar...

I'm very good at hiding my honkyness.

[gocubsgo3822]

:lol

[devilandthelord]

Cubs! Cubs! Cubs!

I like the all-star game festivities but I miss watching my Cubbies.

[bothedmbfan]

:lol

By the way, what would being black have to do with me liking Malcolm X? White people can't like him?

[devilandthelord]

By the way, what would being black have to do with me liking Malcolm X? White people can't like him?

Sure they can.
Most white people just don't.

Most white people like Martin Luther King, but not Malcom X. He was a little to scary for most white folk.

[bothedmbfan]

Sure they can.
Most white people just don't.

I reccomend those honkys read about him after he took his Hajj.

[bothedmbfan]

Sure they can.
Most white people just don't.

Most white people like Martin Luther King, but not Malcom X. He was a little to scary for most white folk.

I respect what King did for the movement, but the man was a big time adulturer.

I remember in history class we read a quote in our book "Martin Luther King is the man history loves to remember, Malcolm X is the man they try to forget."

Part of me wants to become a teacher, and teach kids about Malcolm in detail, but sadly, I'd probably get teh firedz.

[devilandthelord]

I reccomend those honkys read about him after he took his Hajj.

What the fuck is a Hajj, negro?

[bothedmbfan]

What the fuck is a Hajj, negro?

THe pilgrimiage all Muslims are supposed to make to mecca at one point in their life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajj

It was after this that Malcolm saw that Islam was the way that all people, regardless of race or gender, could all be united and live in peace and harmony.

[gocubsgo3822]

^terrorist training camp :evil

[gocubsgo3822]

anyways enough politics























CUBS

[bothedmbfan]

^terrorist training camp :evil

Even in jest, fuck you.

[gocubsgo3822]

:lol

[bothedmbfan]

:lol

I know you don't want to believe it, but we're not all terrorists.

[devilandthelord]

I know you don't want to believe it, but we're not all terrorists.

Well either way, I saw that picture in the wikipedia link you posted, and you know there were a shitload of America hating motherfuckers up in that crowd.

I know, I'll send Bauer after them! :twenty4
Counter-Terrorism Unit to the rescue!

[gocubsgo3822]

^ :lol Ryan FTW!!!!!!

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

I respect what King did for the movement, but the man was a big time adulturer.

I remember in history class we read a quote in our book "Martin Luther King is the man history loves to remember, Malcolm X is the man they try to forget."

Part of me wants to become a teacher, and teach kids about Malcolm in detail, but sadly, I'd probably get teh firedz.

King was an adulturer? Like he cheated on his wife? I never heard that befo.

[gocubsgo3822]

Can you imagine if we would not have traded Josh Hamilton.....

Soriano
Dome
Lee
Hamilton
Ramirez
Soto
DeRosa
Theriot



:cumsalloverselfinexcitement

[devilandthelord]

Can you imagine if we would not have traded Josh Hamilton.....

Soriano
Dome
Lee
Hamilton
Ramirez
Soto
DeRosa
Theriot



:cumsalloverselfinexcitement

Yes, but I'd like it better

Soriano
Theriot
Hamilton
Ramirez
Lee
Soto
Dome
DeRosa

[MPizzle06]

Go N.L.!!!! I want 4 of 7 at Wrigley in October!!!!!! :D

[DMBZeppelin]

By the way, what would being black have to do with me liking Malcolm X? White people can't like him?
No, because Malcom X hates you. The guys is one of the biggest racist this world has ever seen. Had Malcom X been white, and said a lot of things he said about blacks instead. Well besides him being a Klan leader, he'd be hated by whites and blacks. Here's some nice quotes for you from Malcom X:

If I have a cup of coffee that is too strong for me because it is too black, I weaken it by pouring cream into it. I integrate it with cream. If I keep pouring enough cream in the coffee, pretty soon the entire flavor of the coffee is changed; the very nature of the coffee is changed. If enough cream is poured in, eventually you don't even know that I had coffee in this cup. This is what happened with the March on Washington. The whites didn't integrate it; they infiltrated it. Whites joined it; they engulfed it; they became so much a part of it, it lost its original flavor. It ceased to be a black march; it ceased to be militant; it ceased to be angry; it ceased to be impatient. In fact, it ceased to be a march

I've never seen a sincere white man, not when it comes to helping black people. Usually things like this are done by white people to benefit themselves. The white man's primary interest is not to elevate the thinking of black people, or to waken black people, or white people either. The white man is interested in the black man only to the extent that the black man is of use to him. The white man's interest is to make money, to exploit.

The common enemy is the white man.

"Every time you see a white man, think about the devil you're seeing," Malcolm X said when he was the leading spokesperson for the Nation of Islam, a black Nationalist religious group.

If I'm not mistaken he was against whites and blacks doing anything together. He opposed interracial marriage. He hated America, and said all black people were Africans. I know he later claimed not to be a racist, but I don't see a damn thing he did that made him likeable.

Yes, but I'd like it better

Soriano
Theriot
Hamilton
Ramirez
Lee
Soto
Dome
DeRosa
Lee would make a HORRIBLE 5 hole hitter. He's the perfect 3, but if he had to go anywhere else it be the 2 hole.

[devilandthelord]

Why would Lee make a horrible 5 hole hitter?

I agree Malcom X was a racist as well btw.

[DMBZeppelin]

Why would Lee make a horrible 5 hole hitter?

I agree Malcom X was a racist as well btw.
Three hole is usually best suited for your best power hitter who has a combo of contact/speed/base running. You want your best power hitter in the hole 4 hole. You'd like some sort of slugger in the 5 hole. Fukudome isn't a slugger, and by all means is not suited for the 5 hole. We survived, just like we could if D-Lee was in there.

But D-Lee is not a slugger, he's not Cliff Floyd. He is a good contact guy though. Even last year when the wrist injury took away his power. He was still hitting for a high average and can hit to all fields. He's not as fast as he was in his Marlins days, but he can still steal bases. He's a smart base runner so he knows what to do when Ramirez and Edmonds are batting.

[devilandthelord]

Big Z in the ASG guys!

C'mon Z, this is for home field in the WS!

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Eddie Vedder needs to release this song ASAP!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuRQGhrFxGU&feature=related

[Bron Yr Aur]

Big Z was great tonight! After that first hit to Ichiro he was lights out. And he even showed off his best-in-the-league pickoff move. Great to see at least one Cub player have a good showing.

[DMBZeppelin]

Eddie Vedder needs to release this song ASAP!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuRQGhrFxGU&feature=related
Ya a guy on Ants brother took that vid if I'm not mistaken. It was in the Piss Bottle Men (fake name PJ played under) thread. Someone should send that link to Pat and Santo, get the commentators in on the song. Because it's EASILY the best Chicago Cubs song ever written. I really want to go see Vedder's solo shows mid-August in Chicago. Hopefully he'll play that song.

[Tiduwho]

Time for Aramis to take over.

[UCFish]

I really do not want dempster to blow this.

[devilandthelord]

I really do not want dempster to blow this.

If he blows it and we make it to the WS I will never forgive his ass.

Unless of course he wins the clinching game of the WS. :D

[devilandthelord]

That's the way to do it Demps!
Striking out the side, representing the Cubs to the fullest.

[Tiduwho]

Yeah baby! Good way to represent us!

Z and Dempster! Good work both of them.

[HolyCow]

Come on NL. Please. Please. Please win.

[UCFish]

Why is Uggla blowing the game for the NL.

[Tiduwho]

Aaron Cook FANTASTIC job.


Good work Gonzo, good start.

[HolyCow]

This game could go all night. You Bud Selig is cursing himself right now.

"Why did I make this thing 'count?' WHY!?"

If it goes too much further, they should use college football-type overtime rules. Each team starts with a runner at second at the beginning of each inning.

[DMBZeppelin]

Jesus Uggla, suicide squeeze or ANYTHING! Seriously that was a horrible at bat. I agree that Selig sucks for "making it count". I don't understand why the team with the best overall record doesn't get homefield. That's how it is everywhere else. You take care of business and you get rewarded.

The Cubs could wind up with the best record in baseball, win their division, and get to the World Series. Yet they might not have home field advantage over an AL Wild Card who barely gets in, and couldn't even win their own division.

[Ev42]

Eddie Vedder needs to release this song ASAP!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuRQGhrFxGU&feature=related

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

hell yes that was great. Eddie is the man

[DMBZeppelin]

Marmol is in, we might be screwed.

[Iamnotafatgirl]

This could also be a confidence booster for Marmol as well. We'll just have to see how it goes.

[DMBZeppelin]

WOOOOO!!! GO MARMOL! Now for the love of God do it when it counts.

[UCFish]

I hope he does not need to pitch another inning. But he looked good.

[Ev42]

fuck me uggela sucks donkey dick

[MPizzle06]

This could also be a confidence booster for Marmol as well. We'll just have to see how it goes.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Z, Dem, and Marmol all looked GREAT tonight which was awesome. Geo got outshined by that LA catcher, and Kosuke was meh.

Oh well, I think Marmol wil be fine in the 2nd half, which s the best thing to take from tonight.

Now let's get back to CUBS BASEBALL! 3-game set at Houston coming up

[devilandthelord]

Eddie Vedder needs to release this song ASAP!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuRQGhrFxGU&feature=related

This needs to be our song!

But make it, this year we go all the way.

[gocubsgo3822]

cubs....

[bothedmbfan]

This needs to be our song!

But make it, this year we go all the way.

No. If we choose a song by Eddie Vedder as our song...I may stop being a fan.

[bothedmbfan]

Why would Lee make a horrible 5 hole hitter?

I agree Malcom X was a racist as well btw.

Elijah Muhammed was a racist, Malcolm just ate up everything he said and preached it. When he realized how fuck Elijah Muhammed was, and after his Hajj; he changed for the better.

[DMBZeppelin]

No. If we choose a song by Eddie Vedder as our song...I may stop being a fan.
How can you knock that song? It's frickin' awesome.

[bothedmbfan]

How can you knock that song? It's frickin' awesome.

Haven't listened to it, don't plan on it.

[Ev42]

once again the song is great

[DMBZeppelin]

Haven't listened to it, don't plan on it.
What would Malcom X think about your discrimination of a song? It's a song about the Cubs, how you can hate that is beyond me.

[devilandthelord]

What would Malcom X think about your discrimination of a song? It's a song about the Cubs, how you can hate that is beyond me.

He's right Bo.
You're being ignorant and intolerant of this song, and Malcom would not be down with that.

[darbini]

Cubs

[gocubsgo3822]

Cubs./... Fucking drunk at work FTW....

[devilandthelord]

Cubs./... Fucking drunk at work FTW....

Cereally? Are others there drunk with you? Or is this just something you decided to do on your own? :lol

[gocubsgo3822]

no i am the only one drunk here... i had to open a pool at 7 AM today and i didnt get done drinking last night till 5

[MPizzle06]

no i am the only one drunk here... i had to open a pool at 7 AM today and i didnt get done drinking last night till 5

:lol :thumbsup

CUBS

[gocubsgo3822]

^ :lol hangover is really bad....





















CUBS

[darbini]

Mmmmm spicy chicken combo....


Mmmmm Cubs

[bothedmbfan]

I can't stand Pearl Jam, and Eddie Vedder is a fucking douche.

I can't stand his voice either, so I doubt I'll like it anyways.

[devilandthelord]

Malcom X was a douche IMO. :)

[bothedmbfan]

Malcom X was a douche IMO. :)

Brother Malcolm was a hero. Eddie Vedder is in a shitty band that hates Ticketmaster.

[gocubsgo3822]

Cubs

[davehead86]

Brother Malcolm was a hero. Eddie Vedder is in a shitty band that hates Ticketmaster.

:lol :lol :thumbsup

[bothedmbfan]

:lol :lol :thumbsup

Yayz!

[gocubsgo3822]

CUbs....

Anyone here going to Deer Creek want to get up and have a brew or two or three or four and play some cornhole. I will be there night two....



Cubs

[HolyCow]

Got my tickets today for Cubs/Cards August 10th.

Section 239. Gonna be awesome.

[gocubsgo3822]

fuck yea royce fucking awesome

[Rodey]

http://www.cubssuckclub.com/gallery/Cubs_Suckcessories/Cubs_Spirit.jpg

[gocubsgo3822]

:lol

[Sou1 So1di3r]

CUbs....

Anyone here going to Deer Creek want to get up and have a brew or two or three or four and play some cornhole. I will be there night two....



Cubs

What about alpine?

[gocubsgo3822]

i will be there night two also....

for the record for everyone RichHill is starting tomorrow night in Class A

[Sou1 So1di3r]

i will be there night two also....

for the record for everyone RichHill is starting tomorrow night in Class A

Can I take you up on cornhole N2?

[gocubsgo3822]

ye for sure... i love fucking playing...

[Sou1 So1di3r]

is it really that fun....?

I've played it before.... I didn't jizz my pants or anything.

[gocubsgo3822]

yea i thnk so night cubs fans...
























cubs

[HolyCow]

Cubs.

[Mario82288]

Thank god the all star break is over ...





Cubs

[devilandthelord]

Cubs


Back to work tomorrow.
We had a great first half, obviously, but now is what really counts.
This is where we make our run.
This is where we win.
This is OUR YEAR.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

cubs

[gocubsgo3822]

nice motivational speech ryan...

[gocubsgo3822]

ptching matchups.....

Lilly vs. Mohler
Z vs. Rodriguez
Demps vs. Backe



After the astros we go to Arizona... Good news is we will miss both Dan Haren and Brandon Webb currently :)

[DMBtheStoned]

Cubs

[Sou1 So1di3r]

ptching matchups.....

Lilly vs. Mohler
Z vs. Rodriguez
Demps vs. Backe



After the astros we go to Arizona... Good news is we will miss both Dan Haren and Brandon Webb currently :)

W
W
and
W

[darbini]

Don't you realize? The next time you see sky, it'll be over another town. The next time you take a test, it'll be in some other school. Our parents, they want the best of stuff for us. But right now, they got to do what's right for them. Because it's their time... up there. But down here it's our time. It's our time down here... that's all over the second we ride of Troy's bucket




Cubs

[Rodey]

Cubs


Back to work tomorrow.
We had a great first half, obviously, but now is what really counts.
This is where we make our run.
This is where we win.
This is OUR YEAR.

:lol

How many years have you been telling yourself that now?

[TapNorris]

Don't you realize? The next time you see sky, it'll be over another town. The next time you take a test, it'll be in some other school. Our parents, they want the best of stuff for us. But right now, they got to do what's right for them. Because it's their time... up there. But down here it's our time. It's our time down here... that's all over the second we ride of Troy's bucket




Cubs

Goonies!!

Cubs

:lol

How many years have you been telling yourself that now?

Who are you?

Cubs

[Rodey]

Goonies!!

Cubs



Who are you?

Cubs

Jordan, who are you?

[Ev42]

Goonies!!

Cubs



Who are you?

Cubs


f me i knew i heard that a million times before. i just could not place it thanks.

cubs

[TapNorris]

Jordan, who are you?

A Cubs fan.






















Cubs

[Rodey]

A Cubs fan.






















Cubs

Cubs suck, Go Brewers.

[TapNorris]

Cubs suck, Go Brewers.

Your team gets it's 10th winning season EVER last year and now you feel like you can talk shit?

[Rodey]

Your team gets it's 10th winning season EVER last year and now you feel like you can talk shit?

I'd talk shit even if the Brewers sucked.

Harassing Cubs fans is what I live for. The Brewers could be the worst team in baseball and I'd still be sitting here laughing at you guys for thinking that "this is your year"

:lol

[DMBtheStoned]

Brewers :lol

[darbini]

Cubs:thumbsup :multi :D :hump

Brewers:thumbsdow :BANG :twak :(

[TapNorris]

I'd talk shit even if the Brewers sucked.

Harassing Cubs fans is what I live for. The Brewers could be the worst team in baseball and I'd still be sitting here laughing at you guys for thinking that "this is your year"



Ok, good for you. To each their own.













Cubs :multi :bounce :D :bounce :multi :D :multi :bounce

[gocubsgo3822]

Cubs :D

[Tiduwho]

The Cubs look primed to go on a big winning streak...I'm going to say 67 straight.

[UCFish]

Everyone go vote Cubs in the 24um boobs or ass thread.

[gocubsgo3822]

^^ :thumbsup

[devilandthelord]

I'd talk shit even if the Brewers sucked.

Harassing Cubs fans is what I live for. The Brewers could be the worst team in baseball and I'd still be sitting here laughing at you guys for thinking that "this is your year"

:lol

What a sad, strange little man you are.

Tell you what, I'll buy you a bottle of Advil at the end of the season cuz you're gonna have a sore neck from looking up at us in the standings everyday.

[gocubsgo3822]

^ :thumbsup

[devilandthelord]

In other baseball news, the Phillies picked up Joe Blanton and his 4.96 ERA. Woohoo for them!

And the Yankees picked up, *snickers*, wait for it, wait for it, Richie Sexson! :lol

[Sou1 So1di3r]

lawl... Brewers suck

[devilandthelord]

Fonzie says he'll be back on the 24th.

Yay!!!:multi