Chicago Cubs

[41ravens]

that was marmol's first run given up since the all-star break. we need this one. where did the bats go this series?

[devilandthelord]

Goddamnit do not blow this game!
Hold! Hold!

[DMBCubs25]

3-2 cubs goin to top 9, santo near heart attack

[devilandthelord]

3-2 cubs goin to top 9, santo near heart attack

:lol, hang on Ronnie!
You wanna be alive if they win it this year!

[devilandthelord]

Really though, if we do win this year, could there be anything sweeter than listening to Ron Santo rejoice in our victory?
That's just too good. I hope it happens. For him.

[thebestauntie]

He also played baseball. I know, I know; it's odd, but true.
Seriously? Who knew? :shrug How long ago, like 20 or 30 years ago?

[bothedmbfan]

Seriously? Who knew? :shrug How long ago, like 20 or 30 years ago?


Yeah ya know, close or whatever.


God I need a girlfriend, this is just sad. I give up.

[thebestauntie]

Yeah ya know, close or whatever.


God I need a girlfriend, this is just sad. I give up.
What you're saying talking to a 41 year old across the country is not doing it for you? :eek I'm insulted! :devil :lol:lol :hug:hug

[UCFish]

CUBS WIN!!!

Hope our bats start to come alive again soon.

Big Z gets the win!

[devilandthelord]

Cubs win! Cubs win!

[bothedmbfan]

What you're saying talking to a 41 year old across the country is not doing it for you? :eek I'm insulted! :devil :lol:lol :hug:hug

No, trying to make jokes and shit. It doesn't make me happy anymore. I dunno, I give.

[devilandthelord]

Most wins in the league mathafakkas! :multi

[bothedmbfan]

Most wins in the league mathafakkas! :multi

It's just Ma Fuckaz.

[TapNorris]

Most wins in the league mathafakkas! :multi

That's what I like to hear!!

Go Cubs Go!!

[UCFish]

Hey chicago what do you say??

[TapNorris]

Hey chicago what do you say??

The Cubs have already won today!!!

[bothedmbfan]

Hey chicago what do you say??

Soup is good food.

[UCFish]

Soup is good food.

:lol:lol:lol

[devilandthelord]

It's just Ma Fuckaz.

Not to me.

Mafakka.

As in, Jack-knifed mafakka.

[bothedmbfan]

Not to me.

Mafakka.

As in, Jack-knifed mafakka.

I don't like you.

[devilandthelord]

I don't like you.

Whateva. :cool

[Tiduwho]

Gay. As hell. Zambrano was supposed to pitch tomorrow, Marquis' gay ass was supposed to pitch today.

Now tomorrow I have to go watch the ONE pitcher we have that sucks.


But I get to see Harden on Sunday. :)

[DMBZeppelin]

Good win today. Nice to see the pitching hold up.

Magic number is 30.

[UCFish]

Gay. As hell. Zambrano was supposed to pitch tomorrow, Marquis' gay ass was supposed to pitch today.

Now tomorrow I have to go watch the ONE pitcher we have that sucks.


But I get to see Harden on Sunday. :)

:lol

[devilandthelord]

Gay. As hell. Zambrano was supposed to pitch tomorrow, Marquis' gay ass was supposed to pitch today.

Now tomorrow I have to go watch the ONE pitcher we have that sucks.


But I get to see Harden on Sunday. :)

Ha-ha!
I had to see Marquis earlier this year too. Fortunately we won.
But I am jealous that you get to see Harden. Haven't gotten to go to a game when he pitched yet. :mad

[rick8285]

Ha-ha!
I had to see Marquis earlier this year too. Fortunately we won.
But I am jealous that you get to see Harden. Haven't gotten to go to a game when he pitched yet. :mad
I went to the game Marquis pitched and we scored 8 in one inning. Never did I feel so confident in his abilities...

[UCFish]

Probably gonna need some runs today with Marquis on the mound.

Go Cubs!

[TapNorris]

It's everyone's favorite DMB song at Wrigley right now....Rain Delay.

[TapNorris]

Why the fuck do we play down to our opponents!?!?! There are a few pitchers on this team that just need to leave. This is the worst team in the fucking majors and we just gave up a 6 spot to them.

[UCFish]

6 spot terrible.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Holy shit. What? The offense needs to bust out big in the late innings today. We really can't afford to lose games to Washington when we have such a tough stretch on the road to finish the season.

I just can't believe Marquis. He pitches solid ball for 5 innings, and then has a meltdown. This is his MO. If he could just stop fucking walking people when things get tight, he'd be an alright pitcher. You just can't trust him, though.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Bob Howry?? AREYOUFUCKINGKIDDINGMELOU??? Why would you put in Howry at this point. Gaudin or Samardzija PLZ. Someone who can eat up a couple innings and is reliable. What the fuck is Lou thinking with Howry and Cotts today? This was still a winnable game, but with each run they tack on....

[Bron Yr Aur]

We need to get Fontenot in the game to hit in the pitchers spot. Seriously. Let's get some runs damnit.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Lou has really made some questionable decisions today, but putting in Kosuke has to be one of the dumbest. Fontenot is a much better power hitter; actually, he's proven to be a much better hitter, period.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Bob Howry?? AREYOUFUCKINGKIDDINGMELOU??? Why would you put in Howry at this point. Gaudin or Samardzija PLZ. Someone who can eat up a couple innings and is reliable. What the fuck is Lou thinking with Howry and Cotts today? This was still a winnable game, but with each run they tack on....

Well so much for that idea...maybe he can get out of it?

[TapNorris]

Pinch hit, 3-run double by Aaron Fucking Boone. Given up 10 runs to the lowest scoring team in the majors. I guess it's best to get this out of our systems now and not next month.....but still, Marquis and the bullpen, BRUTAL!

[Bron Yr Aur]

Aaron Boone??? Are you kidding me??? Really??

[Bron Yr Aur]

Pinch hit, 3-run double by Aaron Fucking Boone. Given up 10 runs to the lowest scoring team in the majors. I guess it's best to get this out of our systems now and not next month.....but still, Marquis and the bullpen, BRUTAL!

Ya know, when you get through the first 5 innings with a 4-0 lead, it's hard to expect you'll give up 10 runs in the next 3 innings. Just ridiculously bad pitching. Marquis was pitching so fucking well, and really he deserves the blame because he couldn't help from giving up those 2 walks that killed us. He and Cotts needed to stop the bleeding and they failed miserably.

[UCFish]

Ouch.

What a bad day.

Don't see much good coming out of this other than a reality check and we just had one vs. the reds.

Lame.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Just going to have to pick up the slack in the next two games. With Dempster and Harden on the mound, we should by all means be able to do so.

[DMBZeppelin]

Marquis sucks at life, but all in all a horrible day. You know who I've never seen give up 6 runs in an inning? Sean Marshall.

[UCFish]

You know what me neither.

Although technically he only gave up 4.

[Ev42]

Marquis sucks at life, but all in all a horrible day. You know who I've never seen give up 6 runs in an inning? Sean Marshall.

i don't know what lou's fucking problem is. hands down Marshall is better than that shit stain Marquis

[bothedmbfan]

Marquis is making a shitload of money, sadly, that's what matters.

[HolyCow]

Poor form today. But hey, 7 of the last 10 is alright with me.

[Tiduwho]

Wow, I mean, wow. Did I pick the WORST game of the year to go to or what? That was one of the most pathetic displays and meltdowns I've ever seen. Because it was the NATIONALS.

As the lineups were being read, I was lmao. Their ENTIRE TEAM is hitting like .240 with 4 home runs and 34 RBIs. Ryan Zimmerman only has 8 home runs, and he's their only hitter.

Willie Harris...ARE YOU JOKING ME COTTS? Willie Harris!!! The guy is a career pinch runner! Is he on roids this year? He's never hit more than 2 home runs in a season before, and this year he has 12? WTF?


Man, terrible.

[UCFish]

Yeah that had to have sucked. Rough game...was gonna say something positive but nothing to say.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

How the fuck do we give up 13 to the NATIONALS?!

what the fuck

[UCFish]

5 LOB after 2 innings.

WTF this is the Nationals.

This shit is pissing me off.

[UCFish]

8 left on now in 3 innings.

Pathetic.

[UCFish]

Got one in!!!

Woohoo.

Guess I am alone in here today.

[gocubsgo3822]

the jail bird is here...

[gocubsgo3822]

way to rammy!!!!!!

[UCFish]

Nice work by Demps!

[UCFish]

BIG day for Aram.

[UCFish]

Cubs win!

[gocubsgo3822]

cubs win good response after yesterday

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Going to the game tomorrow.

Look for me, I'll be the guy with a banana in his pants and a sign that says " I'm hard for Harden. "

[TheOtherside]

i just did some quick math and if the cubs do not lose another series the rest of the year, they will win at least 100 games.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

I can't wait to get wasted on the train, then continue my drunken stooper to the Cubbie Bear then onward to the park where I will try not to puke on all the extremely hot Wrigley girls.

[HolyCow]

Ryan Dempster = Cy Young.

[DMBZeppelin]

i just did some quick math and if the cubs do not lose another series the rest of the year, they will win at least 100 games.
Actually they just need to play .500 baseball. We're 29 games over. 81+29 = 100. Winning every series will get us to 100, but well past it. Which I'm fine with.

[Tiduwho]

Actually they just need to play .500 baseball. We're 29 games over. 81+29 = 100. Winning every series will get us to 100, but well past it. Which I'm fine with.

You're thinking halfway. 29 games over .500 is equal to 14.5 up, 14.5 down from 81.

So 95 and 67. Or 96 and 66.

[dmb@uvm]

Actually they just need to play .500 baseball. We're 29 games over. 81+29 = 100. Winning every series will get us to 100, but well past it. Which I'm fine with.

Well, first...81+29=110 But your logic is off because its not the half way point in the season, theres only about a month left. You have 79 wins with 33 left. You need to win 21 which is greater than .500. Going back to your original logic you would actually need to be 38 or 39 over .500 at the half way point to play .500 from there out to end at 100.

Math pwn. sorry.


edit: slow ass internet...

[Sou1 So1di3r]

I'm drunk.

I >3 the cubs.

kikckass.

whooo yehsah


fucking a man


whoo

[devilandthelord]

I'm drunk.

I >3 the cubs.

kikckass.

whooo yehsah


fucking a man


whoo

Dempster= The Man :thumbsup

[Tiduwho]

Alright, I'm off to Wrigleyville! Wish me a happy, drunken time! And a better game today, none of that "losing" BS. We're going up against a guy that's 2 and 9.

Let's go Harden! :multi

[UCFish]

Go cubs. Off to the terrible Giants game for a couple of friends b-days.

[Mario82288]

Alright, I'm off to Wrigleyville! Wish me a happy, drunken time! And a better game today, none of that "losing" BS. We're going up against a guy that's 2 and 9.

Let's go Harden! :multi

Gorgeous day to be there too. Sooo jealous. Go Cubs. Up 3-1 in the 3rd.

[Ev42]

Gorgeous day to be there too. Sooo jealous. Go Cubs. Up 3-1 in the 3rd.

hell yes. :thumbsupgreat day to be at the game:thumbsup oh well. go cubs

[devilandthelord]

Harden for President?

I love this guy.

[devilandthelord]

Nobody's gonna say it?

Ok, I'll be first then.

Cubs win! Cubs win! :multi

[Bron Yr Aur]

Really great to see Fukudome come in and get that pinch hit homer today. Awesome game. Harden was great again, and it was good to see him get extended a bit, and he still looked very strong. Yet another series win, that makes 8 series in a row!

[UCFish]

Go cubs.

Every time it looks like FUk is done he gets a big hit.

[DMBZeppelin]

First team in the majors to 81 wins, and we're 30 over .500 which is just fantastic. While the magic number for the division is 28, it's only 24 for a playoff spot.

[devilandthelord]

Lets just do a quick examination of Harden's body of work since he's joined the Cubs. Cuz, ya know, I love him. :D

So far, it goes like this:

44 IP
70 K
14 BB
28 H
8 ER
1.47 ERA


Hot damn! He may not pitch as many innings as C.C., but we're not the Brewers, and we don't need him to. I'm so glad we got Harden.
Although he hasn't been the horse that Carsten Charles has, he has better numbers. And I'm a numbers guy. :monkey

[DMBZeppelin]

Lets just do a quick examination of Harden's body of work since he's joined the Cubs. Cuz, ya know, I love him. :D

So far, it goes like this:

44 IP
70 K
14 BB
28 H
8 ER
1.47 ERA


Hot damn! He may not pitch as many innings as C.C., but we're not the Brewers, and we don't need him to. I'm so glad we got Harden.
Although he hasn't been the horse that Carsten Charles has, he has better numbers. And I'm a numbers guy. :monkey
Did you see during the game that going into today Marmol had given up 31 hits in 70 innings. Given that he sucked for a while, it's MIND BLOWING.

[devilandthelord]

Did you see during the game that going into today Marmol had given up 31 hits in 70 innings. Given that he sucked for a while, it's MIND BLOWING.

I hadn't seen that, but that just shows you how dominant he's been in certain stretches.

[41ravens]

ok, i know this may be crazy talk, but what are the odds of harden being our #1 in the playoffs? could he handle it? is z's ego too big? just a thought.

[devilandthelord]

I dunno, a buddy and I were talking over the weekend, and he was saying he'd heard the possibility of Dempster being the #1 in the playoffs.
I wasn't totally against it, but I had the same concerns about Big Z's ego.
I don't wanna mess up the team chemistry or mojo.

[DMBZeppelin]

ok, i know this may be crazy talk, but what are the odds of harden being our #1 in the playoffs? could he handle it? is z's ego too big? just a thought.
Horrible idea, and not just because of Z's ego. As much as we all love Harden, he's not someone you're bringing back on short rest. While Dempster can handle short rest, this is his first season back starting. It's a HUGE work load increase for him.

So I mean chances are whoever pitches Game 1 may need to pitch Game 4 or 5, and whoever pitches Game 2 may need to pitch Game 5. Also it's only August, Zambrano could be back to normal for the playoffs. He struggled last August as well. I say you ride the hot hand between Zambrano and Dempster.

If you pitch Harden game 3 of the NLDS, he'll probably pitch Game 1 or 2 of the NLCS.

[devilandthelord]

I still think that Z should be our guy.
Just overall its best for the team.

Its gotta be so sick for other teams to look at us as perspective playoff opponents and see that we will be bringing Z, Demps and Harden the first 3 games and that all of those guys could pitch twice in a 7 game series.
I mean thats awesome. All those guys have pitched like number ones this year.

[TapNorris]

First team in the majors to 80 wins, and we're 30 over .500 which is just fantastic. While the magic number for the division is 28, it's only 24 for a playoff spot.

I fixed it for you to hopefully avoid the jinx.

[DMBZeppelin]

I fixed it for you to hopefully avoid the jinx.
:lol No idea why I put 81, the 0 and 1 aren't even close to each other.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Z is the most durable and capable of pitching on short rest, even though I don't believe he has a very good record when doing so. However, with him pitching in the first game, he should eat up at least 7 innings and is capable of being really, really good. Even if he's not terribly sharp, you have Dempster coming back in the next game as almost surely the better pitcher than whoever the other team has going. And when Harden pitches against the other team's #3, that's almost a sure win, the way things have been going lately.

Really, this scenario plays out the same if Dempster is #1, too, but I just think with Dempster's consistency, he is almost a lock to outduel any other team's #2 starter.

[gocubsgo3822]

i love this team.....

[bothedmbfan]

I'd be fine with either Demps or Big Z as the #1 going into the playoffs. I also hope we keep Lilly on the roster for the playoffs, he's awesome.

[rick8285]

Lets just do a quick examination of Harden's body of work since he's joined the Cubs. Cuz, ya know, I love him. :D

So far, it goes like this:

44 IP
70 K
14 BB
28 H
8 ER
1.47 ERA


Hot damn! He may not pitch as many innings as C.C., but we're not the Brewers, and we don't need him to. I'm so glad we got Harden.
Although he hasn't been the horse that Carsten Charles has, he has better numbers. And I'm a numbers guy. :monkey
40 IP exactly

[HolyCow]

My word, how fun is this right now. I was browsing NL stats and scenarios and I love the Cubs in every way, shape and form.

[devilandthelord]

We could have 6 guys with 20 homers or more each this year.

What's the word on DLee?
How serious is his injury?

[UCFish]

day to day with back spasms.

Also hitting into double play itis.

[devilandthelord]

day to day with back spasms.

Also hitting into double play itis.

His condition is termed as 6-4-3-osis.

[UCFish]

Nice! That sounds much better.

[Tiduwho]

D Lee is playing today.

[devilandthelord]

D Lee is playing today.

Oh well I'm glad to hear he's feeling up to it.
But really if he's hurting today, I'd just rather he took the day off to rest up.

[rick8285]

This guy, Karstens caused some trouble for us when we faced him Aug 1st. He came from NY in the Nady/Marte trade.

[devilandthelord]

Anybody at all worried about facing Karstens today?
He pretty much owned us last time.

But I'm thinking seeing him a second time, we will fare much better today.

[bothedmbfan]

Fonz for MVP.

[devilandthelord]

Fonz for MVP.

If he hadn't missed the time he did with injury, sure.

[bothedmbfan]

If he hadn't missed the time he did with injury, sure.

I meant for the history of baseball.

[devilandthelord]

I meant for the history of baseball.

Oh.
I was gonna come back with Babe Ruth or Willie Mays or somebody like that, but then I really thought about it for another minute and realized you were correct.

Fonzie be praised! :)

[bothedmbfan]

Oh.
I was gonna come back with Babe Ruth or Willie Mays or somebody like that, but then I really thought about it for another minute and realized you were correct.

Fonzie be praised! :)

Yeah, Fonz is teh bestz.

[Tiduwho]

A Ram! What a pimp.

[DMBZeppelin]

Gotta love the early 5-0 lead.

[rick8285]

Amazing to see what Fonzie's healthy legs can do to our baserunning. And, Len just mentioned he has a career-high 5-game walk streak. That's what leadoff hitters do baby!

[devilandthelord]

Fonz is the balls.

Can't really say it much better than that.

[Tiduwho]

Could use an Edmonds grand slam here.

[devilandthelord]

^ Damn close!
Nice job Hollywood!

3-3 tonite.

[devilandthelord]

Good to see us bash Karstens tonight after he shut us out for 6 innings in his debut.

[Tiduwho]

Could use an Edmonds grand slam here.

A two run double? That's it? He's really dragging the Cubs rep down.

[Tiduwho]

Good work Fuk.

[devilandthelord]

All you need is Cubs, Cubs, Cubs
Can't buy me Cubs, Cubs, Cubs


:multi

[UCFish]

I like this a lot.

Nice to see 10 runs on the board in the fifth.

[devilandthelord]

Like to see the Shark come in, in a little while to get some work on back-to-back days.
Get him more ready for the stretch run/playoffs.

[clayj41]

I haven't posted in here in awhile.


Go Cubs...looking good tonight!!!

[UCFish]

Yea you have been MIA for some time.

Plus I just took first in our fantasy league.

[UCFish]

No real reason for Lilly to still be out there.

[Ev42]

good game. fuk looking better

[Bron Yr Aur]

No real reason for Lilly to still be out there.

Ted is durable, there's no need to worry about him throwing 100+ pitches. He did well again tonight.

[UCFish]

Very well.

I guess I just felt he did not need to come out there for the seventh.

Looks like this will be 11 out of 12 on the road.

Go Cards the next 2 days.

[devilandthelord]

Very well.

I guess I just felt he did not need to come out there for the seventh.

Looks like this will be 11 out of 12 on the road.

Go Cards the next 2 days.

:thumbsup Thats for sure!
I don't wanna totally count them out yet, but I kinda already am.
It'd be great if they took 2 from the Brewers so we could put more distance between us and them.

[davehead86]

I dont think the Cards have it in them to take two from the Brew Crew.

[Tiduwho]

Man...I'm almost drunk off 2 beers. Sad.


Of course, they're 9.5% beers, so that helps. Not eating helps too.

[Tiduwho]

Sounds like Fuk is remembering how to hit. Good. Is it really necessary for Woody to be out there right now in a 12 to 3 ballgame??

[Tiduwho]

Cubs should realistically win out.

[devilandthelord]

I dont think the Cards have it in them to take two from the Brew Crew.

Well, I dunno.
They got Wellemeyer vs. Sheets in the first game, so normally I'd give that to the Brewers, but Sheets is 1-5 in his last 6 starts, and Wellemeyer's not bad. So who knows?
Then the second game they got Adam Wainright, who pitched 6 innings and gave up only one run in his first start off the DL, going against Manny Parra, so they could do it.

Meanwhile we've crushed the Pirates tonight, and we've got Big Z going up against Ian Snell tomorrow, so I'd think we'll be getting a "W" again tomorrow.

But we'll just have to see, won't we? :D

[devilandthelord]

Cubs should realistically win out.

They should at least strongly consider it. :thumbsup

[UCFish]

Cubs should realistically win out.

agreed

Cubs win!

[devilandthelord]

Cubs win! Cubs win!

[thebestauntie]

Did the Cubs win today?

[cryfreedom4136]

Did the Cubs win today?

Can't backread a few posts?

[thebestauntie]

Can't backread a few posts?
Nope too lazy.

[Tiduwho]

Did the Cubs win today?

Hey Chicago, what do you say?

[thebestauntie]

Hey Chicago, what do you say?
I dunno, did the Cubs win today?

[clayj41]

Yea you have been MIA for some time.

Plus I just took first in our fantasy league.

Yeah, I will fall in all my leagues. I have no time to check them with school.

[devilandthelord]

I dunno, did the Cubs win today?

Indeed they did win today!

Go Cubs Go!
Go Cubs Go!

[thebestauntie]

Indeed they did win today!

Go Cubs Go!
Go Cubs Go!
Finally someone answers my question!! Thanks Ryan. :) :lol

[devilandthelord]

Finally someone answers my question!! Thanks Ryan. :) :lol

Clear evidence was literally like 1 or 2 posts above you though, LA. :p

[thebestauntie]

Clear evidence was literally like 1 or 2 posts above you though, LA. :p
Yes I know. :rolleyes Boy you Cubs fans are so serious!

[devilandthelord]

Yes I know. :rolleyes Boy you Cubs fans are so serious!

Both the Cubs and the internets are serious business!
You should know that! :twak

[Tiduwho]

Yes I know. :rolleyes Boy you Cubs fans are so serious!

Why so serious?

[thebestauntie]

Both the Cubs and the internets are serious business!
You should know that! :twak
Oh yes, sorry, my bad. :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol
Why so serious?
Thank you! :lol

[UCFish]

I love the cubs.

[devilandthelord]

I concurr.

[UCFish]

Jonathan is pretty MIA here recently.

My post count must be soaring over him.

[devilandthelord]

Jonathan is pretty MIA here recently.

My post count must be soaring over him.

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You've got him by over 100 now.
With me bringing up the rear in 3rd place.
With his not being able to post at work thing, my goal is to pass him as quickly as time allows. :evil
:lol

[UCFish]

He is not at work anymore.

Back at school where he is even more of a degenerate.

[devilandthelord]

He is not at work anymore.

Back at school where he is even more of a degenerate.

Oh, dang.

Than I shall have to work even harder.
But I've been making tremendous progress.
I mean look at my count in this thread. It has risen at an unprecedented rate in the last few months. :hump

[Tiduwho]

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You've got him by over 100 now.
With me bringing up the rear in 3rd place.
With his not being able to post at work thing, my goal is to pass him as quickly as time allows. :evil
:lol


Tiduwho: a model of quality > quantity.

[devilandthelord]

Tiduwho: a model of quality > quantity.

The quality being half of them "Cubs to win out?" or some variation of that?
:lol

[thebestauntie]

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You've got him by over 100 now.
With me bringing up the rear in 3rd place.
With his not being able to post at work thing, my goal is to pass him as quickly as time allows. :evil
:lol
Where do I fall on the list?

[devilandthelord]

Where do I fail on the list?

Fixed. ;)

[Sou1 So1di3r]

Cubs

[UCFish]

Tiduwho: a model of quality > quantity.

I do love your cubs to win out posts.

Not gonna lie.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Is it really necessary for Woody to be out there right now in a 12 to 3 ballgame??

Well you gotta give him some work sometime. We've been winning by such large margins so much he rarely gets in there. I'd prefer to run him out there at least to keep him sharp.

[DMBZeppelin]

That's Debatable: Which team has the best rotation?

Monday's question, courtesy of Adam from Hampshire, Ill.:

Which team has the best starting rotation (1-5) in all of baseball? My pick is the Chicago Cubs (Carlos Zambrano, Ryan Dempster, Rich Harden, Ted Lilly and Jason Marquis).

Normally, we don't tinker with your questions here at That's Debatable. But not this week. This week, Adam, we're tinkering. So here's the question we're actually debating:

Which team has the best postseason rotation?

We opted to make that change because teams almost never use five starting pitchers in October. In fact, teams that win the World Series tend to lean on their top three starters -- so even the No. 4 starter barely pitches. Each of the last three Series champs used their 1-2-3 starting pitchers in all but two games of the entire postseason.

Essentially, this debate comes down to which team has the best top three, with a respectable fourth starter hanging around to start one game in the LCS and World Series if you need him. And here are the main teams in that argument:

THE CASE FOR THE CUBS

It doesn't get much better than Rich Harden, Carlos Zambrano and Ryan Dempster, with Ted Lilly as your safety valve. The Cubs are 42-18 (a .700 winning percentage) when those three start. And since Lilly's rough April (1-4, 6.46), they're 15-6 when he starts.

THE CASE FOR THE DIAMONDBACKS

The only other team besides the Cubs that has two starters in the top 10 in lowest opponent OPS is Arizona -- with (guess who?) Brandon Webb (.597) and Dan Haren (.635). And if your No. 3 starter is Randy Johnson (1.56 ERA since the break), and your No. 4 is either Doug Davis or the underrated Yusmeiro Petit (.565 opponent OPS), you have one terrifying group.

THE CASE FOR THE ANGELS

No other rotation in the American League has three starters who have held opposing hitters to a sub-.700 OPS. But the Angels do, in Ervin Santana (.647), Joe Saunders (.688) and John Lackey (.691).

THE CASE FOR THE RED SOX

If Josh Beckett and Tim Wakefield were healthy, this staff might be the pick. The Red Sox are the only rotation in baseball with four starters -- Daisuke Matsuzaka, Jon Lester, Wakefield and Beckett -- in the top 50 in lowest opponent OPS. But until we know that Beckett is OK, it's tough to make a great case for this group.

OTHERS IN THE DEBATE

The Dodgers' numbers are skewed slightly by pitcher-friendly Dodger Stadium, but they have tremendous rotation depth with Chad Billingsley, Derek Lowe, Hiroki Kuroda, Greg Maddux and Clayton Kershaw. Ditto on the Brewers -- with C.C. Sabathia, Ben Sheets, Manny Parra, Dave Bush and Jeff Suppan.

Can't overlook Tampa Bay's Big Three -- Scott Kazmir, Matt Garza and James Shields. They're the single biggest reason the Rays are heading for October. And the White Sox, Twins and Mets (if John Maine is reasonably healthy) also go four-deep.

THE VERDICT

Well, Adam, we may have messed with your question -- but not your answer. Crunch those numbers, friends, and it's clear the Cubs are the pick. They're the only team in baseball that has three starters in the top 27 in opponent OPS. They're the only rotation that has three starters in the top 20 in strikeout ratio (a group that doesn't include Zambrano, by the way). They lead the sport in starters' ERA and opponent batting average. And they would be the only team in baseball with three starters in the top 15 in VORP (Baseball Prospectus' Value Over Replacement Player stat) if Harden's numbers for the Cubs and A's were combined. So feel free to argue away, but I'll take the Cubs with no second thoughts.

[DMBZeppelin]

the Cubs' 12-3 romp over the Pirates has the Cubs staring at some lofty historical franchise landmarks:

• • They moved to 31 games over .500 for the first time since they finished the 1984 season 96-65.

• • That put them on the verge of a 32-games-over, high-water mark that would be a first since Sept. 2, 1969.

• • And if they win one of the next two games to beat the Pirates -- who dropped into a last-place tie with Cincinnati in the NL Central --it will give them nine straight series wins for the first time since they won 10 straight to open the '07 season. The 1907 season.

Forget 100. We're starting to talk about 101-year significance.

[bothedmbfan]

Cubs are good.

[DMBCubs25]

If fukudome can keep hitting this way and return to that number 5 spot in the order, this lineup is even more dangerous

[rick8285]

If fukudome can keep hitting this way and return to that number 5 spot in the order, this lineup is even more dangerous
Ano Catuli

[UCFish]

If fukudome can keep hitting this way and return to that number 5 spot in the order, this lineup is even more dangerous

I think that is a real big if.

[gocubsgo3822]

well fuckers.... i wish i could post more unfornutaely my retarded roommate hasnt paid the cable bill for FOUR FUCKING months so i am robbing cable.. Not to mention my little stint in jail and i am good to go soon...

Reason number 1 for fraternity= Free fucking lawyer who is amazing and is filing a civil action on the police the next time they say a word to me that will make me a lot of money...

[devilandthelord]

well fuckers.... i wish i could post more unfornutaely my retarded roommate hasnt paid the cable bill for FOUR FUCKING months so i am robbing cable.. Not to mention my little stint in jail and i am good to go soon...

Reason number 1 for fraternity= Free fucking lawyer who is amazing and is filing a civil action on the police the next time they say a word to me that will make me a lot of money...

Uh please elaborate, Jon.
What the hell happened to you?

[TapNorris]

Uh please elaborate, Jon.
What the hell happened to you?

I second this...the Cubs thread must know.

[gocubsgo3822]

i went to jail for 13 hours for public disorderly conduct... I was at my favorite bar at school drinking and an undercover officer asked me for my id i gave it to him and he was pissed that i wasnt under 21 so they got pissed and made me leave the bar. When i was waiting for a cab they were harrassing me and shit so i told them to leave me the fuck alone and thats when i was arrested.. Then two nights later i was at the same bar with my lawyer and they came up and laughed and said this is ridiculous but lets see the id again... so my lawyer has a beef in with columbia city police and the next time they fuck with me we are filing a civil suit against both the department and the officers and i will make some cash... it pretty fucked up. When i was in jail i wan with a rapist and a kidnapper who was ounger than me. It wasnt fun at all...

[gocubsgo3822]

good fucking start two one no out DP lee up though

[gocubsgo3822]

well at least D Lee didnt GIDP

[gocubsgo3822]

that fucking sucks two on no out and we cant get any in... edmonds crushed that shit though

[gocubsgo3822]

such a stupid rule that you can strike someone out and they can make it to first on a wild pitch

[Tiduwho]

such a stupid rule that you can strike someone out and they can make it to first on a wild pitch

It's okay, Z will strike out 28 tonight.

[gocubsgo3822]

that would be amazing as fuck

[Tiduwho]

Z is being an idiot....

[gocubsgo3822]

what the fuck is going on

[gocubsgo3822]

From Barack Obama, "You go to Wrigley Field, you have a beer, beautiful people up there. People aren't watching the game. It's not serious. White Sox, that's baseball. South Side."

[gocubsgo3822]

well this is not going well... didnt see thios happening

[gocubsgo3822]

not too worried with their pitching staff not going to lie but Z needs to settle down

[DMBZeppelin]

From Barack Obama, "You go to Wrigley Field, you have a beer, beautiful people up there. People aren't watching the game. It's not serious. White Sox, that's baseball. South Side."
He's got be kidding me. People at Wrigley aren't there not paying attention. You'll hear the collective cheer or groan each and every game. If the pitcher has 2 strikes with 2 out, everyone is on their feet.

I've been to a White Sox game before, it's not that great. I think they have better food then Wrigley. But seriously like every half inning there's some bullshit going on. Whether it be some sort of race for this or that, or someone coming onto the field.

[DMBZeppelin]

not too worried with their pitching staff not going to lie but Z needs to settle down
Honestly I wish they'd give him 2 weeks off, where he just works on his mechanics. He's out of synch, his arm appear to be fine. Movement and what not seems to be normal. His command is just crap though because he's out of synch mechanically.

[DMBZeppelin]

wow out of our 9 spot we've gotten a .227 AVG, 8 homers, and 52 RBI's. They said that's better then 4 American League teams 9th spot. What a lineup.

[bothedmbfan]

What the hell.

[gocubsgo3822]

wow out of our 9 spot we've gotten a .227 AVG, 8 homers, and 52 RBI's. They said that's better then 4 American League teams 9th spot. What a lineup.

thats fucking ridiculous... is that including games played with a DH?

[DMBZeppelin]

thats fucking ridiculous... is that including games played with a DH?
They didn't say, but you know what always has a DH? Those 4 american league teams.

[bothedmbfan]

Not ALWAYS. They have to have their pitchers hit too.

[gocubsgo3822]

quite true young boseph but i think u miss the point

[devilandthelord]

From Barack Obama, "You go to Wrigley Field, you have a beer, beautiful people up there. People aren't watching the game. It's not serious. White Sox, that's baseball. South Side."

Ooooh, Barack. You're just making all the wrong moves for me, buddy.

See I'm typically Republican in my voting habits and attitudes, but I've been wanting to vote for Barack Obama ever since the beginning of his campaign. But lately, he's just saying all these things that turn me off about him.
He may have lost my vote with that one. :lol

Seriously though.

[bothedmbfan]

Oh, I get the point. Just thought it was kinda funny.

ANYWAYS, What's the score?

[bothedmbfan]

Ooooh, Barack. You're just making all the wrong moves for me, buddy.

See I'm typically Republican in my voting habits and attitudes, but I've been wanting to vote for Barack Obama ever since the beginning of his campaign. But lately, he's just saying all these things that turn me off about him.
He may have lost my vote with that one. :lol

Seriously though.

PeePee>>>Vagina?

[devilandthelord]

PeePee>>>Vagina?

Maybe. Who wants to know? :lol

[gocubsgo3822]

obama is an idiot.... as cubs fans we should al unite to say n more... we are down 3-0 Boseph....

On another note they just put up a graphic.. I have come to the conclusion teams should use the opposite shift for theriot... he cant pull the ball... he sucks

[bothedmbfan]

obama is an idiot.... as cubs fans we should al unite to say n more... we are down 3-0 Boseph....

On another note they just put up a graphic.. I have come to the conclusion teams should use the opposite shift for theriot... he cant pull the ball... he sucks

1. Obama is fucking awesome, go die in a well.
2. I dunno what the hell that is supposed to mean after the first elipses.
3. God damn it.
4. You're a fucking bair tit, go die in a well.

[gocubsgo3822]

how do u have so much white guilt boseph???...

Aramis has been killing the ball on another note just right at people

[DMBZeppelin]

Bo wants us all to do an ESPN Fantasy Football draft, anyone feel like doing one right now to kill time while we watch the game?

[bothedmbfan]

how do u have so much white guilt boseph???...

Aramis has been killing the ball on another note just right at people

What white guilt?

[DMBZeppelin]

Damnit, just when it looked like Z would have an easy inning that happens.

[devilandthelord]

What white guilt?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_guilt

[gocubsgo3822]

What white guilt?

the love obama guilt

[bothedmbfan]

http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/waitingroom?leagueId=543077&teamId=1&newteam=true

Sign up you guidos.

[bothedmbfan]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_guilt

I know what it is you goose fucker; I'm just trying to understand how I'm displaying white guilt? I feel that Obama is the best pick for the job of all the people running.

And I hate white people for a different reason. You can't fucking trust those honky bastards.

[DMBZeppelin]

http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/waitingroom?leagueId=543077&teamId=1&newteam=true

Sign up you guidos.
Just 12 minutes till draft! COME QUICK! Plus we can trash talk all of your horrible picks.

[bothedmbfan]

Oh God, that draft yesterday dude...LAWLZ still.

[DMBZeppelin]

Oh God, that draft yesterday dude...LAWLZ still.
major LAWLZ

[DMBZeppelin]

So the league is full, anyone besides Bo and myself in?

[gocubsgo3822]

no not doing it in

[bothedmbfan]

Like, biggest lawlz ever. Getting Garrard in the 15th round, LAWLZ!

[DMBZeppelin]

no not doing it in
What better way to make Bo mad then beating him in fantasy football... with all white players.

[bothedmbfan]

Maybe even a latino or two. (Oh wait, this is the NFL.)

[devilandthelord]

Maybe even a latino or two. (Oh wait, this is the NFL.)

Roberto Garza FTW!
Although he is an offensive lineman, so I guess you can't pick him in fantasy.
Did you know that because there are so few latinos in the NFL, he is on the cover of the Spanish edition of Madden 09?
How funny is that?

Also, I'd love to draft with you guys, but I'm at work and its blocked. Sorry.

[gocubsgo3822]

bases lioaded no outs.......

[devilandthelord]

We best be gettin some runs here.

[bothedmbfan]

Roberto Garza FTW!
Although he is an offensive lineman, so I guess you can't pick him in fantasy.
Did you know that because there are so few latinos in the NFL, he is on the cover of the Spanish edition of Madden 09?
How funny is that?

Also, I'd love to draft with you guys, but I'm at work and its blocked. Sorry.

There is no way that is true. Tony Homo, the guido they had on it last year, Jeff Garcia....Ok that's all I can think of, but yeah.

[gocubsgo3822]

geo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tiduwho]

Soto comes through big time!!! Cubs take the lead!! It's about time, it's the 4th inning! We should be up by 5+!


:multi :multi

[bothedmbfan]

We've got heads on stick, while you've got ventrilloqists.

[devilandthelord]

There is no way that is true. Tony Homo, the guido they had on it last year, Jeff Garcia....Ok that's all I can think of, but yeah.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Garza

Check it out dude.
Towards the bottom, Madden coverboys 09' Brett Favre/Roberto Garza (spanish edition)

Its for troof.

[Tiduwho]

Big Z bringing the RBIs again! Good work Z. 8 straight games with an RBI.

And a 13 game hitting streak. Lol, what if a pitcher broke the 56 straight game hitting streak when only hitting every 5 days?

[devilandthelord]

Yes!

I love the Cubs!

[gocubsgo3822]

8 straight startas for z with a rbi

[devilandthelord]

Still no outs too!


Also, this is a nice full Cubs thread tonight. Good deal.

[bothedmbfan]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Garza

Check it out dude.
Towards the bottom, Madden coverboys 09' Brett Favre/Roberto Garza (spanish edition)

Its for troof.

But...he's horrible. If he stays healthy all year, that's the fucking curse.

[gocubsgo3822]

dh in world series????

[devilandthelord]

8 straight startas for z with a rbi

I believe 13 straight with a hit too. Wow.

[DMBZeppelin]

Big Z bringing the RBIs again! Good work Z. 8 straight games with an RBI.

And a 13 game hitting streak. Lol, what if a pitcher broke the 56 straight game hitting streak when only hitting every 5 days?
They said it was only an 8 game hitting streak on the game, is that an error? They also mentioned the RBI thing so I know it wasn't an error. If Zambrnao broke the 56 straight, that be great.

I also expect him to settle down now. Even though he knows it's not his job, Zambrano lets his hitting effect his pitching. Now that Z got a lead, and got an RBI single himself. He'll feel better and pitch better. Crazy Z.

[devilandthelord]

But...he's horrible. If he stays healthy all year, that's the fucking curse.

But he be spanish.
Oh well, who cares?
Its the spanish edition.

[Tiduwho]

They said it was only an 8 game hitting streak on the game, is that an error? They also mentioned the RBI thing so I know it wasn't an error. If Zambrnao broke the 56 straight, that be great.

I also expect him to settle down now. Even though he knows it's not his job, Zambrano lets his hitting effect his pitching. Now that Z got a lead, and got an RBI single himself. He'll feel better and pitch better. Crazy Z.

On WGN they said 8 straight games with an RBI, and 13 straight games with a hit.

[bothedmbfan]

But he be spanish.
Oh well, who cares?
Its the spanish edition.

Seeing as that is the one I am buying, I do.

[devilandthelord]

Seeing as that is the one I am buying, I do.

Riiiiight.
Well you enjoy that Bosef.

"El Boom!"

[bothedmbfan]

Riiiiight.
Well you enjoy that Bosef.

"El Boom!"

It's funner this way, honestly.

[gocubsgo3822]

i really love this team

[devilandthelord]

Actually, did you know that Madden is not one of the commentators this year?
He's just the "host" of the game basically.
The commentators are Chris Collinsworth and somebody else who I can't remember right now.

[bothedmbfan]

Actually, did you know that Madden is not one of the commentators this year?
He's just the "host" of the game basically.
The commentators are Chris Collinsworth and somebody else who I can't remember right now.

Yeah, I know. I usually turn the sound off anyways.

[devilandthelord]

Yeah, I know. I usually turn the sound off anyways.

If you get the Spanish edition do they say "Goooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" every time you score a touchdown?

[bothedmbfan]

If you get the Spanish edition do they say "Goooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" every time you score a touchdown?

Read the post you quoted and figure it out, fignuts.

[gocubsgo3822]

settle down z

[devilandthelord]

Read the post you quoted and figure it out, fignuts.

I'm just asking.
Cuz if they did, I would totally buy it.
Living in the Chicago area, it would probably not be that hard to secure a spanish edition. :lol

[devilandthelord]

Nate McLouth and Ryan Doumit are pretty good young players.
At least the Pirates have that going for them.


Oh wait, they'll probably trade them next year, nvm.

[Tiduwho]

We need some more runs. Like now. It's only the 5th, and we're probably going to see Howry or Cotts today. : puke

[gocubsgo3822]

^ agreed we need more runs for sure

[devilandthelord]

Probably true.
But I have confidence we can definitley get some more.
But if we see Howry or Cotts we might like 10 runs to win this game.

[gocubsgo3822]

this team is just too solid

[gocubsgo3822]

DeRosa Cubs MVP????

[devilandthelord]

DeRosa Cubs MVP????

So many choices for that, but it'd be tough to argue against him when you look at everything he's done for the team this year.
Without D-Ro we mighta been sunk this year.
He's got my vote. :thumbsup

[gocubsgo3822]

i mean our record with and w/o soriano is absurd but it seems like D Ro is the glue tht keeps it together...

Good throw by Spin orama

[devilandthelord]

i mean our record with and w/o soriano is absurd but it seems like D Ro is the glue tht keeps it together...

Good throw by Spin orama

I like Spin-aroonie better.

So that way we could just call him Booker T.

[gocubsgo3822]

i will disagee.. SPin-O-Rama for me

[gocubsgo3822]

Z has been pretty terrible tonight

[devilandthelord]

Gosh damn.

Yep, we're gonna need a gang of runs tonight.

[gocubsgo3822]

4 sho

[gocubsgo3822]

way to waste Shark... Fuckin Cotts... i am fucking nervous as fuck some might say... We need to get Z figured out

[bothedmbfan]

Howry is our MVP.

[Tiduwho]

What a bunch of bums.