Chicago Cubs

[DMBZeppelin]

That looked fair to me.

[UCFish]

cant catch a break

[DMBZeppelin]

Wow, just.... that frickin' sucked. I thought it was gone.

[ant_marching41]

Ooohhh man. That sucked!

[crashintonickdm]

it was gone, if this wasnt the playoffs.

[UCFish]

Why why why why why why

[Bron Yr Aur]

We suck and can't catch a break. Typical Cubs baseball.

Don't know what I was thinking expecting this team to give us some hope.

[DMBZeppelin]

Oh god... Jason Marquis? Really?

[UCFish]

We suck and can't catch a break. Typical Cubs baseball.

Don't know what I was thinking expecting this team to give us some hope.

:(

Bad day

[UCFish]

Oh god... Jason Marquis? Really?

:lol

[crashintonickdm]

:lol:lol

[DMBZeppelin]

Well I suppose it's all for the best. Lou was like "we lost today" so let Marquis just suck it up for some outs. The big guns are being saved for meaingful games.

[HolyCow]

I hate baseball.

[malarks26]

I hate baseball.

You can't be American.

[Lee3691]

I hate baseball.

Baseball is the most painful of all sports. It's basically 6 months of pain. I am an Indians fan, and I feel a little relieved we didn't make the playoffs, because of how nervous I was last year.

[UCFish]

Gone....really

[41ravens]

well, this game went well. i like our matchups the next three games, though. as long as nobody pulls a dempster. the offense really needs to get going, though. i say put the lineup back to how it was. if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[UCFish]

Well this was not the game 1 I envisioned.

[UCFish]

well, this game went well. i like our matchups the next three games, though. as long as nobody pulls a dempster. the offense really needs to get going, though. i say put the lineup back to how it was. if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

No reason for Fuk to have been second today.

Why fuck with the lineup that has worked all year.

[DMBZeppelin]

No reason for Fuk to have been second today.

Why fuck with the lineup that has worked all year.
The lineup isn't why we lost. It was poor pitching.

[MPizzle06]

fuck

[crashintonickdm]

The lineup isn't why we lost. It was poor pitching.

you've gotta score more than 2 runs though, no?

[malarks26]

Cubs got some work to do in the bottom of the 9th.

[UCFish]

Or walks

Madduxx out of the pen...nice

[UCFish]

you've gotta score more than 2 runs though, no?

Yep you do

[41ravens]

aram and soriano: 1 for 8

hmmmm...where have i seen that before?

[malarks26]

you've gotta score more than 2 runs though, no?

Yeah, can't put this one on the pitching when you only score 2 runs.

[UCFish]

Yeah, can't put this one on the pitching when you only score 2 runs.

Agreed.

[devilandthelord]

Yeah the bats aren't gonna swing themselves.
We gotta step up at the plate.

[malarks26]

aram and soriano: 1 for 8

hmmmm...where have i seen that before?

Sounds like the Yankees big hitters the past few years in the playoffs. :shrug

[UCFish]

Good for Cubs fans to applaud Maddux

Classy.

[DMBZeppelin]

Well I'm done.

[crashintonickdm]

that wasnt just a win, it was a statement. a big one.

[davehead86]

I do believe we are in line for another NLDS sweeping.

[davehead86]

that wasnt just a win, it was a statement. a big one.

Against the choke artists of the playoffs. I wouldn't go with "a big statement"

[rick8285]

I do believe we are in line for another NLDS sweeping.
one game does not a series make, but FUCK!

[devilandthelord]

I has a sadz over this. :(

But tomorrow I will be ready to go.

Z has been here before, and he knows this is the best team he has ever played on.
So he'll want to have a command performance.
I look for him to be in control and look very good, giving the Cubs a great chance to win.

Buck up, Cubs fans. Its only one game.

[Bron Yr Aur]

The lineup isn't why we lost. It was poor pitching.

So you're telling me 2 runs on 9 hits is just fine? We wouldn't have won with good pitching.

The hitters need to get their act together. It made me sick to see how many mistakes the Dodgers pitchers got away with today.

This is the same thing I've been saying all year. The team gets plenty of hits, but they need to string some together and come up with the 2-out, clutch hit. Otherwise, it's going to be 2007 all over again. Tomorrow is a must win.

And take fucking Fuk out and put DeRosa in right and Fontenot at 2nd.

[davehead86]

one game does not a series make, but FUCK!

True but we are only 500 in the last ten games of the season, and it seems that the lax attitude of division clinchers has run over into the playoffs. I can only hope that Lou is as pissed as we all are and rips a new asshole into Soriano and the rest of the crappy swing at anything hitters of the night. And why the fuck wasnt marmol or wood put in. Extra runs added on by people who SUCK at relief.

[crashintonickdm]

Against the choke artists of the playoffs. I wouldn't go with "a big statement"

i dont know man. this year the cubs are one of the top 2 teams in baseball. and they were handled tonight. it was a statement to me.

[MPizzle06]

Ugh. Makes me sick. Very shitty game all around.

Z will come out firing and we'll get a W tomorrow :thumbsup

Go Cubs

[davehead86]

So you're telling me 2 runs on 9 hits is just fine? We wouldn't have won with good pitching.

The hitters need to get their act together. It made me sick to see how many mistakes the Dodgers pitchers got away with today.

This is the same thing I've been saying all year. The team gets plenty of hits, but they need to string some together and come up with the 2-out, clutch hit. Otherwise, it's going to be 2007 all over again. Tomorrow is a must win.

And take fucking Fuk out and put DeRosa in right and Fontenot at 2nd.

Truth.

[41ravens]

it's teh fuckin' avatarz!!!11!

[davehead86]

i dont know man. this year the cubs are one of the top 2 teams in baseball. and they were handled tonight. it was a statement to me.

They always get handled int he playoffs. Its no statement.

[DMBnick15]

you easily have the best team in baseball rght now, i really can't believe that you might not win this series.

edit: http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g47/headshotsk/cubschoke.jpg

[41ravens]

i dont know man. this year the cubs are one of the top 2 teams in baseball. and they were handled tonight. it was a statement to me.

yeah. by brad lowe. who's been untouchable his last 10 outings. statement my ass.

[41ravens]

jesus fuck, people, it's one game.

[crashintonickdm]

yeah. by brad lowe. who's been untouchable his last 10 outings. statement my ass.

you have the best record in the NL. you're supposed to win these games. great teams win the game 1s.

[Ev42]

I do believe we are in line for another NLDS sweeping.

fuck! i think you may be right. we can't hit or pitch for shit.

[davehead86]

you have the best record in the NL. you're supposed to win these games. great teams win the game 1s.

Just stop, you obviously dont understand Cubbie playoff preformance.

[crashintonickdm]

Just stop, you obviously dont understand Cubbie playoff preformance.

i do know your awful playoff performances. trust me. its hard not to know with ESPN and shit out there.

you've still got a great team though. i mean, do you actually believe in the curse? i say it, but im just messing with you guys. you've got a shitload of all stars and there really is no excuse to at least get by this round.

[DMBnick15]

you can easily turn this around, you just have to win tomorrow. if you tie it up, you can easily get one i LA.

[Ev42]

i feel like i just got kicked in the balls.

[devilandthelord]

Here's my advice for tonight and tomorrow:

Don't watch anything about the game.
Don't read anything about the game.
Don't listen to anyone who wants to talk shit about the Cubs.

Just try to relax, do something you like, get yourself in a good mood.
And get ready to cheer your ass off for tomorrow's game!

[davehead86]

i do know your awful playoff performances. trust me. its hard not to know with ESPN and shit out there.

you've still got a great team though. i mean, do you actually believe in the curse? i say it, but im just messing with you guys. you've got a shitload of all stars and there really is no excuse to at least get by this round.

We say we dont believe in the curse, and we joke about it during the year, but when you preform like this in the playoffs two years in a row its hard not to believe. Something is going on.


Yes we can still pull it off, I hope we do, I just dont know if it will really happen.

[41ravens]

i'm just worried about z. there's a lot of pressure on him now. if he comes out and shit's the bed, we're donezo.

[devilandthelord]

yeah. by brad lowe. who's been untouchable his last 10 outings. statement my ass.


I think his name's Derek. :lol

[41ravens]

I think his name's Derek. :lol

oh. :lol well, he kicked our ass too.

got any more pics of wrigley to share with us? ;)

[UCFish]

Here's my advice for tonight and tomorrow:

Don't watch anything about the game.
Don't read anything about the game.
Don't listen to anyone who wants to talk shit about the Cubs.

Just try to relax, do something you like, get yourself in a good mood.
And get ready to cheer your ass off for tomorrow's game!

Agreed lets jst pretend this did not hapen and make it happen tomorrow.

Seriously though I have holed myself in my room with Beers.

Terrible

[davehead86]

oh. :lol well, he kicked our ass too.

got any more pics of wrigley to share with us? ;)

Oh snap. :thumbsup:lol

[UCFish]

oh. :lol well, he kicked our ass too.

got any more pics of wrigley to share with us? ;)

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

[crashintonickdm]

We say we dont believe in the curse, and we joke about it during the year, but when you preform like this in the playoffs two years in a row its hard not to believe. Something is going on.


Yes we can still pull it off, I hope we do, I just dont know if it will really happen.

:lol

just calm down. im sure you'll be alright. afterall, it IS the the NL west you're playing.

[davehead86]

:lol

just calm down. im sure you'll be alright. afterall, it IS the the NL west you're playing.

:lol:p

[86dmbal]

i feel like i just got kicked in the balls.

You pretty much did. Really really hard.

[86dmbal]

:lol

just calm down. im sure you'll be alright. afterall, it IS the the NL west you're playing.

They played them last year too :rolleyes

[crashintonickdm]

They played them last year too :rolleyes

the west wasnt a laughable division last year, though.

[Bron Yr Aur]

jesus fuck, people, it's seven games.

In a row. In the playoffs.

Teams who win the first game in the DS have won the series 24/28 times.

It's one important game.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

WHat the fuck......... ugh.

Fucking marquois and marshall pitched better than dempster did, and what the fuck did Fonzie do? NOTHING.

i'm gonna be sick.

[Tiduwho]

Should Cubs Nation be put on suicide watch now, or do we wait until Z's arm falls off tomorrow?

[BustedStuff87]

Ok, lets get the non-cubs fans out of this forum. And what's the fuck up with that dam protest at Wrigley Field today for the CPS? What a d-bag.

And also. With Lowe out of the way, our bats should do better against Billingsley and Kuroda. We always struggle against sinker ball pitchers, and Lowe is one of the best at that. And With Z and Harden going, what's there to worry about? We just gotta come out and be patient at the plate and not help the other team out. Today, we swung at pitches that we normally don't swing at. We'll come back tomorrow and play much better.

[devilandthelord]

oh. :lol well, he kicked our ass too.

got any more pics of wrigley to share with us? ;)


Yes I do!

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/HPM/SM1109~Screw-You-Guys-Posters.jpg

Its a good one.

[BustedStuff87]

WHat the fuck......... ugh.

Fucking marquois and marshall pitched better than dempster did, and what the fuck did Fonzie do? NOTHING.

i'm gonna be sick.

What's new.:shrug

[Sou1 So1di3r]

I wish I had as much optimism as you do.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

What's new.:shrug

Fukudome has been better at the plate the past 2 weeks, and that shit is fucked up.

[BustedStuff87]

Fukudome has been better at the plate the past 2 weeks, and that shit is fucked up.

I know right, where's Hoffpauir at? Fukudome shouldn't have ever made this roster. I saw Pie did, that's good for a late inning defensive replacement, but Fukudome? DeRo should be out there instead.

[41ravens]

Yes I do!

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/HPM/SM1109~Screw-You-Guys-Posters.jpg

Its a good one.

:lol

[41ravens]

well, i ain't giving up hope. if we lose tomorrow, then we can talk.

[DMBZeppelin]

Why the Chicago Cubs will win the World Series

Our friends from Chicago are already pleading with us not to write this column.

Sorry.

Our friends from Chicago think that if we pick the Cubs to win the World Series -- heck, if anybody picks the Cubs, whether it's an ESPN employee or the guy who changes their oil at the Express Lube -- it guarantees, absolutely for sure, that it can't possibly happen.

Sorry.

We're doing it anyway. We're predicting the Cubs will win the 2008 World Series.

This prediction comes with no warranty whatsoever, of course. If it causes you to invest heavily in Cubs futures at the Las Vegas Commodities Market, they won't be refunding your investment capital if you're wrong, even if you drop our name on them.

Matter of fact, they might even mention to you that we predicted last October that the Cubs would win the World Series, too. Thus inspired, they then went out and forgot to win one stinking postseason game.

But it seemed like a good idea then. It seems like even a better idea now.

We remind you that it was at exactly this point four years ago that we picked the Red Sox to win their first World Series since -- what was that year, 1782? We feel the same way about the Cubs this October that we felt about the Red Sox that October. It's all set up perfectly for them. And we're not alone in thinking that -- for a change.

Over the past week, we polled officials of 19 clubs to see which team they thought would win the World Series. The Cubs won the poll. Going away.

And even some of the folks who didn't vote for the Cubs felt compelled to put in a good word for them. Just to prove we're not crazy, we now present a couple of those testimonials:

"Assuming good health from [Carlos] Zambrano and [Rich] Harden, the Cubs will give any AL team a battle," said one AL GM.

"I think the Cubs, with a healthy Zambrano and Harden, have a shot," said an AL assistant GM. "To me, the biggest challenge for NL teams has been the lack of starting pitching that can handle AL lineups.Those guys can do that."

So there. See? We're obviously not completely insane. No more than usual, anyway.

This is a team with no real holes. It's a team four-deep in starting pitchers with the talent to two-hit you in a big game. It's a team with that scary Carlos Marmol (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=28486)-Kerry Wood (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=3821) bullpen tag team waiting for you at the end of the game. And it's a team for which every starting position player has at least a .350 on-base percentage except (naturally) the leadoff man, Alfonso Soriano (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=3993) -- who leads the team in homers.

We also want to remind you that there is no federal law prohibiting the Cubs from winning the World Series, even if millions of Americans suspect otherwise.

We know that because we checked out a few federal laws just the other day. We also know that because history tells us the Cubs have won the World Series.

Granted, that happened slightly before the invention of ESPN, Elvis and tanning salons, not to mention Jamie Moyer (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=1799). But at least 1908 was well after the demise of dinosaurs, so it's not that long ago.

And now it's their time again. A mere century later. Timing is everything in life. And there's just something about years ending in "08" that works for this team.

"I just think it's their time," said an NL GM. "It's their turn. They're reaching a crescendo. They've got momentum. They've got above-average pitching. They've got a solid bullpen. They've got relatively good health. They've got a good lineup, very diversified -- speed, power, guys who hit for average. They've got a lot of things building for them at the right time of year.

"But most of all," he said, "it's their turn. I really think that. This is their time."

We regret to inform him that there are seven other teams in the field that think the same thing. All but one of them is going to turn out to be wrong. But after kicking this around with lots of people we respect, here's how we see this postseason unfolding:

National League Division Series

Cubs over Dodgers
Amazingly, you could make a case that the Cubs' Octobers have gone way better than the Dodgers' Octobers -- at least lately. Since 1989, the Cubs have won seven times as many postseason games as the Dodgers (7-1). And we see that trend holding up this year, too.

The biggest reason to pick the Dodgers would be their improved, Manny-fied offense, right? Well, what does it tell you that the Cubs outscored the Dodgers over the past two months (275-250) even with Manny Ramirez (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=2974), and outscored L.A. by 155 runs over the course of the season? One NL executive's description of Manny's supporting offensive cast: "Thin."

We agree. The Cubs' pitching is rested and recharged. The Dodgers need too much to go right. Cubs in four.

National League Championship Series

Cubs over Phillies
One of these Octobers, the baseball gods were bound to bring these two franchises together, with a World Series on the line. The Cubs may have gone a century without a title. But the Phillies (one championship in 125 years) haven't exactly been the Yankees reincarnate, either, you know.

The Phillies did go 4-2 against the Cubs this year and easily could have gone 6-0. But that whiff-prone Phillies offense isn't a good match for a Cubs staff that led the big leagues in strikeouts. Check out the numbers of the Phillies' four biggest bats against pitchers with ERAs under 3.50:

Ryan Howard (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6097) .176 average/.619 OPS
Chase Utley (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=5383) .202 average/.604 OPS
Pat Burrell (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=4214) .211 average/.705 OPS
Jimmy Rollins (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=4258) .239 average/.671 OPS

World Series staffs are traditionally built around strikeout pitchers -- and the Cubs' pitchers out-K'd the Phillies' staff by nearly 200 (1,264-1,081).

"I like the power arms [the Cubs] bring to the postseason, where you have off days and what seems like time to rest," said one AL exec. And so do we. Cubs in six.

World Series

Cubs over Red Sox
First of all, just try to grasp the magnitude of this matchup if it happens.

"I could guarantee you right now," said Boston's Sean Casey (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=3769), "that we'd set a record for [TV] ratings. It'll be nuts, man. Just nuts."

Think about all the players who have connected the dots between these two storied franchises -- Bill Buckner, Dennis Eckersley, Andre Dawson, even Calvin Schiraldi.

Think about the ballparks -- Wrigley and Fenway. More history inside those walls than the Smithsonian.

It almost seems meant to be. But when you stack up the two baseball teams, we'll take the Cubs.

Similar lineups. Deep rotations. Great leatherworkers. But Octobers often come down to bullpen dominance, and we'll go with that Cubs' bullpen in this duel. Marmol and Wood combined for 198 strikeouts in 153 2/3 innings -- making them the only bullpen duo in baseball that averaged over 11 K's per nine innings apiece. Jonathan Papelbon (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6373)-Justin Masterson (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=28977) isn't bad. But it isn't that dominating.

And that sums up why we're picking the Cubs. No matter where you look, you can't find a serious hole. So the people we surveyed say they have just one real worry:

The pressure.

"They will be playing with more pressure than anyone in the playoffs," said one AL GM.

"If and when they do reach the World Series," said an NL GM, "the franchise history will either energize them or wear them down, with all the talk about 100 years."

But what's the big deal about one measly, parade-free century? The waiting only makes it better when you win. You could ask, well, the Red Sox.

"That [Cubs] fandom is out of control right now," said one NL GM. "They've been waiting so long. The excitement around that team now is like nothing I've ever seen. It's getting like that Boston-ish atmosphere in 2004."

That energy could U-turn against them, of course, if things spin the wrong way in one of these series. But if we're spending even 30 seconds thinking about that, we've got it all wrong, says the same GM. This time around, he thinks, Cubs history is going to provide the fuel, not the demons.

"To me, you'd rather have that electricity, and take the chance you can live up to it, than to not have it and try to find it," he said. "Some teams have to hope for it. The Cubs aren't one of them. It's there."

Yep. It's there, all right. It's all there. So here's our advice to all our friends in Chicago who are threatening never to talk to us again:

Don't blame us now -- because in four weeks you'll be thanking us. Just as soon as you finish wiping the confetti -- and the tears -- out of your eyes.
Long ass post, but figured you'd all want to know that stuff. Just trying to find some positives.

[devilandthelord]

Boy I hope they're right about that last sentence.

[DMBZeppelin]

I know right, where's Hoffpauir at? Fukudome shouldn't have ever made this roster. I saw Pie did, that's good for a late inning defensive replacement, but Fukudome? DeRo should be out there instead.
Ok but with the wind blowing in. Piniella thought this game would be low scoring. He wanted his best defense out there. DeRosa was hurt, and him running around the outfield just isn't a good option right now.

DeRosa while a gamer, and willing to lay out for a ball. Is not that good of a right fielder. Pie deserved to be on the roster for being a 5 tool player and hitting .300 with a .381 OBP after getting called up this September.

Hoffpauir is not on the roster because he doesn't have a position. His defense would have killed us in the playoffs. We already have enough problems with the hopper in left.

[SmoothD41]

dumpster'd.

[DMBZeppelin]

Should Cubs Nation be put on suicide watch now, or do we wait until Z's arm falls off tomorrow?
I think we wait to see what Z does. Him and Harden are the guys who can dominate on any given night. We just have to hope they're both right.

[DMBCubs25]

fuck the cubs, same shit every year

[BustedStuff87]

Ok but with the wind blowing in. Piniella thought this game would be low scoring. He wanted his best defense out there. DeRosa was hurt, and him running around the outfield just isn't a good option right now.

Sure didn't look like it when Ramirez and Loney socked em' out. And Edmonds ball? That's when it was blowing in, i thought he Thome'd it.

DeRosa while a gamer, and willing to lay out for a ball. Is not that good of a right fielder. Pie deserved to be on the roster for being a 5 tool player and hitting .300 with a .381 OBP after getting called up this September.

Pie was hitting .300???? and had a good OBP???? I didn't notice that at all when he played. Just seems every time he gets a start he doesn't live up to the hype. And a 5-tool player, that i wish we had now, was Angel Pagan.

[TheOtherside]

all you bandwagoners, welcome to cubs baseball.

[crashintonickdm]

all you bandwagoners, welcome to cubs baseball.

:lol

[brettfavrey]

what a pathetic crowd at Wrigley from the get go..fans seemed scared they were going to lose..guess they were right.


could be over tomorrow, since Zambrano isnt right.

[DMBZeppelin]

Sure didn't look like it when Ramirez and Loney socked em' out. And Edmonds ball? That's when it was blowing in, i thought he Thome'd it.
Just going off pre-game reports and what Piniella and the reporters said

Pie was hitting .300???? and had a good OBP???? I didn't notice that at all when he played. Just seems every time he gets a start he doesn't live up to the hype. And a 5-tool player, that i wish we had now, was Angel Pagan.
Ya I made a rather lengthy post to you breaking down Pie's stats: http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showpost.php?p=8283767&postcount=16774 because you said he looked like a .230 hitter.

And are you serious about Angel Pagan? He couldn't even beat out Matt Murton for a roster spot.

[Rodey]

LOL, you guys mad?

[clayj41]

Fuck this is depressing! :(

[DMBCubs25]

what a pathetic crowd at Wrigley from the get go..fans seemed scared they were going to lose..guess they were right.


could be over tomorrow, since Zambrano isnt right.

how can you blame them, we expect this to happen and we get rewarded

[devilandthelord]

If we can get a win with Z tomorrow, I'll be very confident that Harden will take us to victory in game 3 and we can regain control of the series.
It might have to go 5 though.

[devilandthelord]

Was the crowd really bad?
Not being able to watch the game I have no idea.
But I think the crowd's gotta come out on fire man! It's really a shame if they didn't.
We've waited all year for this moment, and if the crowd came out all tentative and flat that's a real shame.

[HolyCow]

Here's my advice for tonight and tomorrow:

Don't watch anything about the game.
Don't read anything about the game.
Don't listen to anyone who wants to talk shit about the Cubs.

Just try to relax, do something you like, get yourself in a good mood.
And get ready to cheer your ass off for tomorrow's game!
:thumbsup

Good advice.

[Mario82288]

Cubs

[Rodey]

http://homerderby.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/cubs-goat.jpg
http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper890/stills/41498ac034022-52-1.jpg

[justinandimcool]

Holy shit you guys it's one game. This victory was a huge pick me up for me as a fan and the rest of the Dodgers' young rotation, but holy shit, I'm still nervous. L.A. still needs to get the job done tomorrow night, because I'm not counting on Kuroda pitching well, and Lilly will be hard to hit Game 4.

[DMBCubs25]

Holy shit you guys it's one game. This victory was a huge pick me up for me as a fan and the rest of the Dodgers' young rotation, but holy shit, I'm still nervous. L.A. still needs to get the job done tomorrow night, because I'm not counting on Kuroda pitching well, and Lilly will be hard to hit Game 4.

Lilly will not be pitching this series, for you will sweep, trust me, as a cubs fan who has been watching this since I could walk I can tell when this team has no chance and Zambrano going tomorrow only deproves our chances of winning, he will implode

[Bron Yr Aur]

Lilly will not be pitching this series, for you will sweep, trust me, as a cubs fan who has been watching this since I could walk I can tell when this team has no chance and Zambrano going tomorrow only deproves our chances of winning, he will implode

C'mon. They will win one of the next two. Either Harden or Z will have something in the tank.

[BustedStuff87]

Just going off pre-game reports and what Piniella and the reporters said


Ya I made a rather lengthy post to you breaking down Pie's stats: http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showpost.php?p=8283767&postcount=16774 because you said he looked like a .230 hitter.

And are you serious about Angel Pagan? He couldn't even beat out Matt Murton for a roster spot.

Yea man, Pagan was Fast, played good defense, hits the ball for power to all fields, switch hitter. He's gonna be good.

[justinandimcool]

Lilly will not be pitching this series, for you will sweep, trust me, as a cubs fan who has been watching this since I could walk I can tell when this team has no chance and Zambrano going tomorrow only deproves our chances of winning, he will implode

That works. We can both be pessimistic together. I'm hoping Billingsley's on tomorrow, but he's still a toss up as is Z. Kuroda, however- I'm not sure how he'll be under the spotlight. Hopefully he's as good in the clutch as he was in Japan. Either way, I don't trust the next two guys on the mound, so our hitting needs to be like it was today if not better. Not impressed with stranding 3 early on.

[BustedStuff87]

Was the crowd really bad?
Not being able to watch the game I have no idea.
But I think the crowd's gotta come out on fire man! It's really a shame if they didn't.
We've waited all year for this moment, and if the crowd came out all tentative and flat that's a real shame.

The crowd was pathetic at the beginning. They looked like they were freezing and didn't want to be there, but what do you expect, this is baseball in October. That's what happens when real fans can't get tickets to the games. You get the sponsors and their emo sons hitting up the stores outside of Wrigley buying their cubs gear. And then they come inside and just there to be there whether they win or lose.


I say emo, because i knew 4 kids from my school who went and they are a complete waste of a Cubs ticket. One of the kids left class wearing a As I Lay Dieing shirt and left straight for the game.

[BustedStuff87]

Holy shit you guys it's one game. This victory was a huge pick me up for me as a fan and the rest of the Dodgers' young rotation, but holy shit, I'm still nervous. L.A. still needs to get the job done tomorrow night, because I'm not counting on Kuroda pitching well, and Lilly will be hard to hit Game 4.

That's nice, but why are you in here again?

[justinandimcool]

:lol Jesus Christ.

[devilandthelord]

The crowd was pathetic at the beginning. They looked like they were freezing and didn't want to be there, but what do you expect, this is baseball in October. That's what happens when real fans can't get tickets to the games. You get the sponsors and their emo sons hitting up the stores outside of Wrigley buying their cubs gear. And then they come inside and just there to be there whether they win or lose.


I say emo, because i knew 4 kids from my school who went and they are a complete waste of a Cubs ticket. One of the kids left class wearing a As I Lay Dieing shirt and left straight for the game.

I don't agree with all of that, but it does really piss me off when things like that happen in the playoffs.
A lot of the real fans that have been going and supporting the team all year long get shut out when it comes to playoff tickets and its all people that are there because of corporate partnerships and favors.
Really lame and not cool. :thumbsdow

[Lcsulla]

Jesus, can you guys please beat Joe fucking Torre for me. My god, such a good team, I do not see how they just find ways to blow it. It is amazing, makes the Mets look clutch.

[Bron Yr Aur]

That works. We can both be pessimistic together. I'm hoping Billingsley's on tomorrow, but he's still a toss up as is Z. Kuroda, however- I'm not sure how he'll be under the spotlight. Hopefully he's as good in the clutch as he was in Japan. Either way, I don't trust the next two guys on the mound, so our hitting needs to be like it was today if not better. Not impressed with stranding 3 early on.

Stranding 3 early on? LOL, the Cubs must've stranded 8-10 guys today. Dempster had good stuff today, he just couldn't locate at all. Had he some control, this game might've been a slightly different story.

[crashintonickdm]

Stranding 3 early on? LOL, the Cubs must've stranded 8-10 guys today. Dempster had good stuff today, he just couldn't locate at all. Had he some control, this game might've been a slightly different story.

i wouldnt call it good stuff if he had little control and bad location.

[ProudestAnt]

i wouldnt call it good stuff if he had little control and bad location. Aren't little control and bad location the same thing?

[ProudestAnt]

And you can have good stuff with no location...

[justinandimcool]

Stranding 3 early on? LOL, the Cubs must've stranded 8-10 guys today. Dempster had good stuff today, he just couldn't locate at all. Had he some control, this game might've been a slightly different story.

I've been conditioned to assume that the Dodgers stranding 3 is just as bad as any good lineup stranding 8-10. I was utterly shocked at how many times we got on base, and especially shocked that we capitalized when we did. After Ethier struck out, I was almost sure we wouldn't threaten the rest of the day.

[gocubsgo3822]

we got this..... big z is going to come up big i solved the curse. it as burning the prior jersey on fire...

[crashintonickdm]

Aren't little control and bad location the same thing?

haha yeah, they are. woops.

[gocubsgo3822]

get the fuck out of our thread we dont come into yal talking shit

[thebestauntie]

get the fuck out of our thread we dont come into yal talking shit
What happened to the unified avatar?

[ProudestAnt]

It's this year's Bartman...

[maxsoup]

i love the excuses cubs fans think up, they just get better every time!!!

[Bron Yr Aur]

Aren't little control and bad location the same thing?

And you can have good stuff with no location...

This.

His pitches had good life to them, and he was hitting 93 on his fastball. I really thought his slider and fastball looked really good today, he just couldn't get the ball where he wanted it, and his one real mistake got hammered. He shouldn't have been biting at the corners so much in the first place.

[rick8285]

And you can have good stuff with no location...
see: Javier Vazquez

[rick8285]

Billingsley doesn't get too deep in games... Rarely does he pitch over 6 innings, so if they can take some pitches and force deep counts and get to the MotherFucking middle relievers, we should be fine tomorrow. It'll help if Z can complete 6 IP too. I'd love to actually get the ball to Marmol with a lead for him to protect...

[rick8285]

And, upon further review, the biggest AB of the night was Geo in the 6th when Aram lead off with a double and Soto had a 2-0 count and proceeded to swing at the next two pitches. In that spot, with 0 outs, he HAS to be taking at least one pitch, if not two. You can't go from 2-0 to 2-2 by swinging at 2 pitches, you're helping him out at that point. The 6th was a chance we had to get AT LEAST one run and put Lowe in a tough spot and get his pitch count up, yet we let him off the hook.

That's not what this team did all year, why now? I think that goes to Lou, he has to be coaching the young guy better in that spot. God we need a fucking W tomorrow!

[penn darvis]

If Z can come out strong tomorrow, hopefully it fires up the team and the crowd. Everybody needs to calm down. All is not lost.

[devilandthelord]

we got this..... big z is going to come up big i solved the curse. it as burning the prior jersey on fire...

:thumbsup Good call.

[rick8285]

we got this..... big z is going to come up big i solved the curse. it as burning the prior jersey on fire...

:thumbsup Good call.



Seconded!

[gocubsgo3822]

i took th prior jersey and lit it on fire... burnt myself but lit it on fire.... burnt that shit to the ground

[devilandthelord]

i took th prior jersey and lit it on fire... burnt myself but lit it on fire.... burnt that shit to the ground

Was it a tall building? :lol

And with that goodnight, Cubs fans.
Tomorrow will be better.

[rick8285]

Was it a tall building? :lol

And with that goodnight, Cubs fans.
Tomorrow will be better.
if it isn't...I will really start FLIPPING out

[darbini]

I had the Volcano taco before, I actually had 5 of them the other day - no lava butt


FUCK





Cubs

[darbini]

.

(can you please change your avatar back to Stewie?)

[darbini]

1/16" - that's all it was. The damn 0-2 pitch to Loney he BARELY foul tipped off his bat. He misses that pitch and we're out of the inning, up to bat, and the bullpen entering the game with no runs on the board. AHHHHHHHHHHHH! I think we'll be good now, yeahup.

[saygdbye4134]

did you guys know that Frank Caliendo has a new season starting?


but seriously, you have to chalk the loss up to lou and the staff. It was only matter of time that the dodgers would take advantage of all the walks that were given to them.

here's to tonight.

[darbini]

I chalk the loss to us not scoring more runs than they did *cheers*

[saygdbye4134]

please take a bow after that as well.

[gocubsgo3822]

how bout that one that manny golfed out???

[darbini]

What was that, like 8" off the ground?

[gocubsgo3822]

Interesting about the volcano taco... I have a good feeling about tonight ladies and gents... I might be crazy but i have a good feeling ;) Something tells me that the Z we see tonight will be the Z of domination

[41ravens]

Interesting about the volcano taco... I have a good feeling about tonight ladies and gents... I might be crazy but i have a good feeling ;) Something tells me that the Z we see tonight will be the Z of domination

well, i hope so, cause without trying to sound too dramatic, the season depends on it.

[gocubsgo3822]

No you are absolutely correct....

Z will show up as the 18 million dollar a year pitcher he is... I know it....

Everyone jsut put on Pig an it will be ok..... Cubs to win out?

[TapNorris]

Interesting about the volcano taco... I have a good feeling about tonight ladies and gents... I might be crazy but i have a good feeling ;) Something tells me that the Z we see tonight will be the Z of domination

I hope your feeling is correct. I won't survive another night like last....after Soto struck out in the 6th with A Ram at 2nd, with no outs and after being up 2-0 in the count I slammed my head into what I thought was a softer part of the couch.....I was wrong.

[TapNorris]

No you are absolutely correct....

Z will show up as the 18 million dollar a year pitcher he is... I know it....

Everyone jsut put on Pig an it will be ok..... Cubs to win out?

Just reading that made me feel better.

[gocubsgo3822]

I am more optimitstic than i was in my blogosphere tonight.... i know we have got this.. And fart on me and call me smelly but i think our boys are going to come out tonight and just light a fire under their asses and then having Harden game three will be clutch...

[41ravens]

cubs.

[gocubsgo3822]

cubs

[darbini]

C u b s

[gocubsgo3822]

so is the red shell from the volcano taco hot or is it just red????

Walking Derek Lowe twice is no good

[HolyCow]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3621253

Does this make you feel better? Or worse?

[HolyCow]

did you guys know that Frank Caliendo has a new season starting?

Really? Who's Frank Caliendo?

And I can't believe TBS got Donald Trump and George W. Bush to do TV spots. That's pretty cool.

[darbini]

so is the red shell from the volcano taco hot or is it just red????

Walking Derek Lowe twice is no good

It's just red, the cheezy sauce is the where the 'hot' stuff is. I still put fire sauce on top of it. Walking a pitcher is unacceptable. Dempster got out of some big innings but he was playing russian roullette with all those walks. I was kind of hoping that in between innnings he was going to go and shave off his beard to change it up some, would've been cool.


Side note: I like the fact that I don't have a computer at my apartment, nor do I have dvr/tivo capabilities, and my remote control doesn't work either. I just sat there and dealt with that shit last night watching every single pitch and every commercial. I don't think I can watch the game in any public place.

[gocubsgo3822]

so it doesnt have special lava sauce???

[MPizzle06]

so it doesnt have special lava sauce???

It's really not spicy at all IMO.

Cubs.

[gocubsgo3822]

lava butt ;)

[Sou1 So1di3r]

ugh fuck shit fuck I feel sick..

[gocubsgo3822]

cheer up everyone..... hey chicago whadya say the cubs are gonna win today....

its all good. i reversed the curse ;)

[davehead86]

Alright I have resumed normal tv watching and posting habits. Everyone should change their avatars back to normal :p



After some sleep and watching Mike and Mike and Sportsrise I feel confident in Zambrano (as I always do). He had his two bad games its time for a good game from him. It is also time that the sleeping giant is awakened. I think the Cubs were expecting something completely different last night than what they got and the guys were visibly angry. And it was a sinkerball pitcher, we are bad sinkerball hitters, I feel confident. I want Wood and Marmol in the game regardless of the score fuck marshal and marquis.

[davehead86]

Oh yeah and ....







Cubs

[darbini]

Everyone is wondering which Z is going to show up, but this is the postseason we're talking about here. He is a big game pitcher and I'm sure eager to get on the mound, and that's all we can hope for.

[gocubsgo3822]

cubs to win out

[davehead86]

Everyone is wondering which Z is going to show up, but this is the postseason we're talking about here. He is a big game pitcher and I'm sure eager to get on the mound, and that's all we can hope for.

Serious question ... Has he ever thrown a complete shit game in a tight spot (IE big game situations)?

[gocubsgo3822]

no..... i dont consider opening day a big start but z pitches big

[41ravens]

ok, i'm actually starting to get pumped for tonight's game. if anyone can light a fire under this team's ass, it's z. i'm not looking for a no-hitter. just the chance to turn it over to marmol/wood with the lead.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

lets DO THIS FUCKING SHIT

[UCFish]

Lets get it done today.

[gocubsgo3822]

i dont like it michael....

[davehead86]

ok, i'm actually starting to get pumped for tonight's game. if anyone can light a fire under this team's ass, it's z. i'm not looking for a no-hitter. just the chance to turn it over to marmol/wood with the lead.

I think that fire was lit at the end of the night when they left a dead silent Wrigley Field.

[UCFish]

i dont like it michael....

Neither do I

[UCFish]

I can't resize the normal Pegasus at work though.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

I'm gonna light a fire if the shit doesn't go down tonight.

[Oh, word?]

The tension in the air around here is palpable.

Let's DO THIS, Cubs!

[gocubsgo3822]

I can't resize the normal Pegasus at work though.


:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

i am going to disney world next week... this bitch i am raw doging is taking me.. and i get to sleep in the same bed with her :haha:haha

[HolyCow]

Cubs.




I'm back in it. I'm ready.

[UCFish]

Nice I get to go to Disneyland since I will be living there more or less in 6 days.

Got it resized at work. Came in an hour late today. Probably gonna leave 2 hours early.

Shortimers disease is dangerous.

I think I have done 10 minutes of actual work this week.

[gocubsgo3822]

its so fucking long till pitch

[Sou1 So1di3r]

fuckkkkk still have homework to do before class.

[gocubsgo3822]

Nice I get to go to Disneyland since I will be living there more or less in 6 days.

Got it resized at work. Came in an hour late today. Probably gonna leave 2 hours early.

Shortimers disease is dangerous.

I think I have done 10 minutes of actual work this week.

u must not have seen that i get to share a bed in mom and dads house... with some random skank who has agredd to drive me to orlando...

[UCFish]

Oh I did not put together that you are staying at their place.

Did you see their pimp my golf cart.

That thing is badass!

[gocubsgo3822]

yea i am going to ghost ride it..... while drunk as fuck

[bothedmbfan]

Ok guys, we have to go forward and win tonight. Big Z was big for us last year, maybe he can bring it tonight.

And Dempster had a bad start. Pressure got to him. I think that we should go Big Z game 5, if it comes to that.

[gocubsgo3822]

i will personally sacrafice a goat if we win... Bear Grylls style

[Sou1 So1di3r]

I will gladly sacrifice my roomate

[UCFish]

yea i am going to ghost ride it..... while drunk as fuck

Hey can you forward those to me at mfisch@hyatt.com

I can't get into my mac address at work and wanted to show some people.

[gocubsgo3822]

Bear Grylls style Dan?

[gocubsgo3822]

Hey can you forward those to me at mfisch@hyatt.com

I can't get into my mac address at work and wanted to show some people.


which pictures?????? i ahvent ghost riden it yet?

[Sou1 So1di3r]

Bear Grylls style Dan?

Hell to the yes.

He doesn't really do anything except annoy me and claim to want to watch the game with me, then he just kinda shits there and talks about stupid shit.

[UCFish]

which pictures?????? i ahvent ghost riden it yet?

They sent us pics of the cart.

I can't get to them.

Send them to my work email.

Why is this so hard to comprehend.

[gocubsgo3822]

email sent

[bothedmbfan]

Holy shit, I made a real Cubs related post...and no one cared.

Jerk faces.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

Holy shit, I made a real Cubs related post...and no one cared.

Jerk faces.

I care:hug

[gocubsgo3822]

ok guys, we have to go forward and win tonight. Big z was big for us last year, maybe he can bring it tonight.

And dempster had a bad start. Pressure got to him. I think that we should go big z game 5, if it comes to that.

qft!!

[bothedmbfan]

Bats better wake the fuck up too.

[41ravens]

word. and they need more patience.

[davehead86]

word. and they need more patience.

They need to pay attention to Fuk at the plate, he was watching a lot of pitches last night, and he swung at some good pitches to hit, too bad he cant hit right now. Thats what I saw at least, now Soriano ont eh other hand. :BANG

[Bron Yr Aur]

And, upon further review, the biggest AB of the night was Geo in the 6th when Aram lead off with a double and Soto had a 2-0 count and proceeded to swing at the next two pitches. In that spot, with 0 outs, he HAS to be taking at least one pitch, if not two. You can't go from 2-0 to 2-2 by swinging at 2 pitches, you're helping him out at that point. The 6th was a chance we had to get AT LEAST one run and put Lowe in a tough spot and get his pitch count up, yet we let him off the hook.

That's not what this team did all year, why now? I think that goes to Lou, he has to be coaching the young guy better in that spot. God we need a fucking W tomorrow!

He did take one of those next two pitches, if you remember correctly. One of them was an ugly hanging slider that dropped right over the middle belt high. That's the pitch he SHOULD have been swinging at. That inning could've changed the momentum around after that lead-off double, but our hitters just didn't look like they had a plan up there at the plate.

[clcfball11]

I'll be in the left field bleachers tonight...I would go as far to say that this might be the biggest Cubs game of my life (I'm 20)..as this year seems to be the year they have their best shot, and if they lose tonight theyre basically fucked.

Let's fucking do this, Z...

[bothedmbfan]

What's your record at Cubs games?

[clcfball11]

Oh, and I'm not sure if I like Fukudome batting second...what the fuck is that about? If I'm lou, ive got fontenot playing 2nd base..Theriot BATTING second...derosa playing right field, and fukudome coming off the bench.

[Sou1 So1di3r]

I'll be in the left field bleachers tonight...I would go as far to say that this might be the biggest Cubs game of my life (I'm 20)..as this year seems to be the year they have their best shot, and if they lose tonight theyre basically fucked.

Let's fucking do this, Z...

My friend will be right below the press box.

Lets do this shit.....


My record this year is 2 for 3. His record is 1 for 2

[bothedmbfan]

That's fine. NOthing below 50%

[clcfball11]

What's your record at Cubs games?

Shit man, my all-time record would be impossible to tell..ive been to countless games. This year, I am 2-0...was at the milwaukee game when we scored 19 runs back in I think April..then i went to milwaukee and watched us smack them in game 3 of the 4 game sweep..

Ive been to some pretty sick games over the years...michael barrett's 8th inning grand slam to sweep st.louis 2 years ago, A-Gon's 10th inning walkoff to beat st.louis and to take the division lead in 2003...

I also slapped 25 bucks on this game tonight just for the hell of it. Might as well put all of my eggs in one basket..ill be a miserable wreck if we lose tonight, losing 25 bucks wouldnt make a difference

[bothedmbfan]

You're welcome to go.

[clcfball11]

You're welcome to go.


Thanks. :thumbsup

[neumdogg]

How you guys doing in here? Just checking up on ya....

[Bron Yr Aur]

Serious question ... Has he ever thrown a complete shit game in a tight spot (IE big game situations)?

Well he threw 8 innings of 1 run ball last year in Game 1 and Lou fucked up by pulling after 8 when he could've gone 9. If he gives us a performance like that one, we should be able to take this one easily.

[UCFish]

Well he threw 8 innings of 1 run ball last year in Game 1 and Lou fucked up by pulling after 8 when he could've gone 9. If he gives us a performance like that one, we should be able to take this one easily.

Z???

He was pulled after 6 last year.

[clcfball11]

Some other thoughts about this series...

1) what the fuck was with the crowd last night? From a television standpoint, the place looked DEAD...it was very, very eerie. Almost as if the fans settled in and thought "God I hope something bad doesn't happen." We as fans should come in rowdy and behind our team. And to the Cubs organization, why not hand out some fucking rally towels or something? Every other team does it..it gets the fans more into the game. I'll do my best to get the bleachers up tonight, but damn...anyone going to the game tonight, lets make it a damn playoff atmosphere!

2) Regardless of what happens, I think Rich Harden is THE BEST pitcher on our staff and will win game 3. His stuff is literally un-hittable when he is on. I think game 3 is ours, and if we win tonight, so is the series.

3) We can kiss our dreams goodbye if our big guns continue to choke. Soriano has to pull his head out of his ass, Lee has to stop hitting into double plays, etc. Without them hitting, it doesn't matter if we can hold Manny in check or not. We need our team to come together right now, or this wonderful season is going to end tragically.

[bothedmbfan]

Which was just mad fucking retarded.

[41ravens]

How you guys doing in here? Just checking up on ya....

you shut your whorish mouth!


sorry. we're doing ok.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Z???

He was pulled after 6 last year.

OH yeah, I forgot. After something like 80 pitches. Because Lou was planning on bringing him back on short rest. That was the first mistake. Zambrano was pitching excellently that night.

[UCFish]

Yeah he was it was tragic.

We need to win tonight.

It does suck that we battled all year for home field advantage in the playoffs and lost it in a matter of 3 hours.

I hate short series.

[BlackCat41]

Some other thoughts about this series...

1) what the fuck was with the crowd last night? From a television standpoint, the place looked DEAD...it was very, very eerie. Almost as if the fans settled in and thought "God I hope something bad doesn't happen." We as fans should come in rowdy and behind our team. And to the Cubs organization, why not hand out some fucking rally towels or something? Every other team does it..it gets the fans more into the game. I'll do my best to get the bleachers up tonight, but damn...anyone going to the game tonight, lets make it a damn playoff atmosphere!

2) Regardless of what happens, I think Rich Harden is THE BEST pitcher on our staff and will win game 3. His stuff is literally un-hittable when he is on. I think game 3 is ours, and if we win tonight, so is the series.

3) We can kiss our dreams goodbye if our big guns continue to choke. Soriano has to pull his head out of his ass, Lee has to stop hitting into double plays, etc. Without them hitting, it doesn't matter if we can hold Manny in check or not. We need our team to come together right now, or this wonderful season is going to end tragically.


Great points. Soriano has consistently underachieved in the post season. Just one of many reasons the Yankees were not upset to trade him away. He has come through for us this year, and I don't want to hate on him too much, but we can't expect him to be clutch for us in the playoffs.

Your best point is about the fans. I was born a Cubs fan, and I have suffered as long as many. What I don't understand is why we as Cubs fans can have so much hope on April 1st, and no hope on October 1st. WTF??? We have the parts in place to get this done. We were not out of it by any means down two runs with Marshall taking the mound. But the fans all just shut up, sat down, and waited for the loss. That has to have an effect on the players. That was the quietest Wrigley has been all year. And the organization did nothing to get the fans into that game. How about some Thundersticks. The ticket revenue from one NLCS game would more then pay for 300,000 thundersticks to hand out to every fan coming in the gate for the playoff games.

I do think we right the ship tonight. Big Z always gives us a chance, and he has had a great season. The experts are putting too much stock in his last two outings, when really, they were not high presure situations. D-Lee needs to stop GIDP, Soriano needs to take a few more pitches, Theriot needs to move back to #2 in the lineup, DeRo needs to bat 6th, and we should be fine.

GO CUBS!

[DMBnick15]

http://www.karendecoster.com/blog/archives/choke1.jpg

[Sou1 So1di3r]

I have forgot that yesterday happened, going into tonight with a clear mind.

Cubs

[Sou1 So1di3r]

http://www.karendecoster.com/blog/archives/choke1.jpg

?

Why don't you go suck a fuck

[Bron Yr Aur]

Great points. Soriano has consistently underachieved in the post season. Just one of many reasons the Yankees were not upset to trade him away. He has come through for us this year, and I don't want to hate on him too much, but we can't expect him to be clutch for us in the playoffs.

Your best point is about the fans. I was born a Cubs fan, and I have suffered as long as many. What I don't understand is why we as Cubs fans can have so much hope on April 1st, and no hope on October 1st. WTF??? We have the parts in place to get this done. We were not out of it by any means down two runs with Marshall taking the mound. But the fans all just shut up, sat down, and waited for the loss. That has to have an effect on the players. That was the quietest Wrigley has been all year. And the organization did nothing to get the fans into that game. How about some Thundersticks. The ticket revenue from one NLCS game would more then pay for 300,000 thundersticks to hand out to every fan coming in the gate for the playoff games.

I do think we right the ship tonight. Big Z always gives us a chance, and he has had a great season. The experts are putting too much stock in his last two outings, when really, they were not high presure situations. D-Lee needs to stop GIDP, Soriano needs to take a few more pitches, Theriot needs to move back to #2 in the lineup, DeRo needs to bat 6th, and we should be fine.

GO CUBS!

Thundersticks? Are you kidding me? The absence of lame ploys to get the fans into the game like this is what makes Wrigley great. The fans are already into the game, they don't need to be provoked.

Can you blame the crowd? They were into the game, particularly after DeRo's homer. And they were standing for that 2 out, 2 strike pitch to Loney. But that was a DEVASTATING blow. I mean, we were just sitting at home watching the game, and we were dead silent after that. The fans were attentive and into the game, but after that home run, how can you blame them for watching in silence? The players all say that stuff doesn't affect them. They have to handle their own business.

[UCFish]

Great points. Soriano has consistently underachieved in the post season. Just one of many reasons the Yankees were not upset to trade him away. He has come through for us this year, and I don't want to hate on him too much, but we can't expect him to be clutch for us in the playoffs.

Your best point is about the fans. I was born a Cubs fan, and I have suffered as long as many. What I don't understand is why we as Cubs fans can have so much hope on April 1st, and no hope on October 1st. WTF??? We have the parts in place to get this done. We were not out of it by any means down two runs with Marshall taking the mound. But the fans all just shut up, sat down, and waited for the loss. That has to have an effect on the players. That was the quietest Wrigley has been all year. And the organization did nothing to get the fans into that game. How about some Thundersticks. The ticket revenue from one NLCS game would more then pay for 300,000 thundersticks to hand out to every fan coming in the gate for the playoff games.

I do think we right the ship tonight. Big Z always gives us a chance, and he has had a great season. The experts are putting too much stock in his last two outings, when really, they were not high presure situations. D-Lee needs to stop GIDP, Soriano needs to take a few more pitches, Theriot needs to move back to #2 in the lineup, DeRo needs to bat 6th, and we should be fine.

GO CUBS!

:chad

[41ravens]

http://www.karendecoster.com/blog/archives/choke1.jpg

when do the cards play next?

[DMBnick15]

when do the cards play next?

we decided to take a year or two off from the playoffs to try and let anyone in the NL catch up with World Series wins. 10>2

[Hudak-Budak]

:lol I love people who use the past to try and justify their team's current shortcomings.

[41ravens]

:lol I love people who use the past to try and justify their team's current shortcomings.

exactly. well, at least he's got the rams.

[Hudak-Budak]

exactly. well, at least he's got the rams.

You mean the 2000 Super Bowl champs?




Choke on that!

[41ravens]

we decided to take a year or two off from the playoffs to try and let anyone in the NL catch up with World Series wins. 10>2

oh...cool. hey chief, just out of curiousity, how many of those were you alive for?

[41ravens]

You mean the 2000 Super Bowl champs?




Choke on that!

ah! foiled again!!

[DMBnick15]

:lol I love people who use the past to try and justify their team's current shortcomings.

yeah good point, the cubs should stop blaming the curse and just win games. you don't need a priest to spray down your dug out with holy water.

[DMBnick15]

oh...cool. hey chief, just out of curiousity, how many of those were you alive for?

one, how many cubs ws have you been alive for?

edit: how many cubs ws did your parents and grand parents see?

[41ravens]

one, how many cubs ws have you been alive for?

oh, damn. 0. looks like you got me beat, 1-0. well good luck with the cards! they've got a tough matchup, but i think they might be able to go all the way!

[DMBnick15]

oh, damn. 0. looks like you got me beat, 1-0. well good luck with the cards! they've got a tough matchup, but i think they might be able to go all the way!

yeah let me know when you tie that up will ya? and how many more years do you have on me?

[neumdogg]

88 World Series Champions!! I WAS ALIVEEEEE!!!

KIRK GIBSON FTW!

[TapNorris]

88 World Series Champions!! I WAS ALIVEEEEE!!!

KIRK GIBSON FTW!

That was one of the coolest WS moments that I remember.

[DMBnick15]

and i know i seem like an ass hole rubbing in the fact you guys are choking, yet again, but i just know (as i posted before) that if you win one world series, it's going to open it up for you and you might take over the central in years to come.

[darbini]

Carter was better

[neumdogg]

That was one of the coolest WS moments that I remember.
And my parents were at that game without me!

[bothedmbfan]

Mighty Joe Carter FTW

[DMBZeppelin]

Well he threw 8 innings of 1 run ball last year in Game 1 and Lou fucked up by pulling after 8 when he could've gone 9. If he gives us a performance like that one, we should be able to take this one easily.

Z???

He was pulled after 6 last year.
UCFish is right that it was after 6. In no way did Lou screw up. He wanted to bring Z back on short rest for Game 4. He handed the ball over to Marmol who was unhittable last year. Marmol was bad, how is that Lou's fault?

[DMBZeppelin]

"I can't remember us doing that all summer," Piniella said. "You walk the pitcher to get the front part, middle part of their lineup? That's tough to do."

[MPizzle06]

I'm slowly getting over last night's shit show. By first pitch tonight it will be forgotten. Go Z, and GO CUBS!!!

[darbini]

yeah good point, the cubs should stop blaming the curse and just win games. you don't need a priest to spray down your dug out with holy water.

The Cubs don't blame the curse, it's the media and the fans who acknowledge/blame the curse. A 'curse' just makes losing a little easier to accept, but not me. I don't know who brought in the priest though, what's up with that.

[bothedmbfan]

Who knows? Who cares?

For real, they gotta bring it tonight. I think we can split LA easy. I just want to know, if it does come down to game 5...do we start Demps again?

[darbini]

Of course, unless Z goes a few innings(and gets alot of run support) and is able to go in 5. We'll have to wait and see.

[Garrettnettz]

hey how did dempster pitch last night?

[Sou1 So1di3r]

hey how did dempster pitch last night?

are you serious?

[darbini]

hey how did dempster pitch last night?

He was overthrowing and letting some pitches get real high in the zone, not to mention the ump behind the plate had a tight zone(he also frustrated Lowe but the Cubs hitters helped him out too much). Luckily Dempster didn't pay for his 7 walks(in 4.2 innings), that is until there were 2 outs in the 5th when Loney came up and hit a 0-2 pitch to the bleachers for a grand slam. Everything else slid away at that point. The bullpen didn't do much to contain, but the Cubs offense couldn't get guys around the bases anyways.

[Garrettnettz]

yeah. go cubs! you guys are going all the way! wait no ur not

[Garrettnettz]

He was overthrowing and letting some pitches get real high in the zone, not to mention the ump behind the plate had a tight zone(he also frustrated Lowe but the Cubs hitters helped him out too much). Luckily he didn't pay for his 7 walks, that is until there were 2 outs in the 5th when Loney came up and hit a 0-2 pitch to the bleachers for a grand slam. Everything else slid away at that point.

yeah, i said that in a sarcastic way. he did not look all that bad, aside from the control issues. this can go one of two ways, i guess with big z throwing tonite. i mean if you are down 2-0 its ova.

[darbini]

:confused

whatever

:thumbsdow


Go Cubs!:thumbsup

[funksoul]

yeah. go cubs! you guys are going all the way! wait no ur not

Ummm...why not cheer on your team right now rather than rooting against ours? We aren't playing against you guys just to let you know...

[neumdogg]

yeah. go cubs! you guys are going all the way! wait no ur not
Thats mean, and I'm a Dodger fan!

[bothedmbfan]

Yeah.

[Garrettnettz]

Ummm...why not cheer on your team right now rather than rooting against ours? We aren't playing against you guys just to let you know...

cuz the cubs fan base is clearly a bunch of retards and easy to mess with. have a good one being down 2-0

[Garrettnettz]

Thats mean, and I'm a Dodger fan!


i am too, this week!

[darbini]

1.) this can go one of two ways, i guess with big z throwing tonite. 2.) i mean if you are down 2-0 its ova.

1.) You think? Pretty darn brilliant aren't you.



2.) No it's not, it's a best of 5 series.

[TapNorris]

Ummm...why not cheer on your team right now rather than rooting against ours? We aren't playing against you guys just to let you know...

He can't....no one on these boards likes the white sox enough to start a thread.

Edit: Oh wait! Someone actually started a white sox thread this morning....and it's already almost got a page of posts!!!!!!