Would you fight in the Iraq war?

[scotch]

I think MSNBC did a great job covering the debates and getting the college campuses involved. Chris Matthews seemed to love to take 'yes/no' polls with the students, such as "Are you for the war?"......He should have follwed that up with, "Would you fight in the war?"....Too many students seemed to be for the war and voiced their stance with a smile on there face - but I don't think any of them would go over there. Where do you stand?

[RJ2kWJ]

Whoevers voting they wouldnt go if asked is a moron. Its called you HAVE TO WHEN YOU SIGN UP. Even if I didnt have to though, I would go.

[JTRain]

I love Canda.

[SaraEve]

I love Canda.
I do too. I love CANADA. ;)

[nonewdirections]

Whoevers voting they wouldnt go if asked is a moron. Its called you HAVE TO WHEN YOU SIGN UP. Even if I didnt have to though, I would go.
who is talking about morons? there are ways out of anything if we're talking about a potential draft -- but there are also consequences to everything. if you're in the military, you don't technically HAVE to do anything, but it's your duty when you sign up.

[gryspn41]

I was thinking about this the other day actually. And I would go and fight in Iraq if it came down to it. People that support the war but wouldn't go fight, that is just plain dumb.

Roger

[Seankel]

Whoevers voting they wouldnt go if asked is a moron. Its called you HAVE TO WHEN YOU SIGN UP. Even if I didnt have to though, I would go.
Throwing my life away to further this administrations imperialist wet dream seems pretty moronic to me. I have a great deal of respect for those who are willing to risk their lives to serve this country in just cause and manner but I have little sympathy for those who swallow this administrations propaganda and sign up to be sent off to that cluster fuck. Survival of the fittest.

[RJ2kWJ]

who is talking about morons? there are ways out of anything if we're talking about a potential draft -- but there are also consequences to everything. if you're in the military, you don't technically HAVE to do anything, but it's your duty when you sign up.

Weve already established that the draft thing was an internet rumor. Unless John decides to start one. Youd be pitiful to try and get out of going over there.

[nonewdirections]

Weve already established that the draft thing was an internet rumor. Unless John decides to start one. Youd be pitiful to try and get out of going over there.
well i'm not in the military, i don't support the war, and i wouldn't want to be there. i didn't sign up for the military. the only way i would be asked to go is if i were drafted. how am i a moron?

[yin_yang]

Canada definitly rules

[RJ2kWJ]

well i'm not in the military, i don't support the war, and i wouldn't want to be there. i didn't sign up for the military. the only way i would be asked to go is if i were drafted. how am i a moron?

I thought your question was implying that youre in the military. Considering their wont be a draft I thought it was implied.

[boilermaker26]

No way would I fight.

[DMBfan41]

I am against the war and if I was asked to fight....

OHH CANADA, OUR HOME AND NATIVE LAND!

[Proof2k3]

I thought your question was implying that youre in the military. Considering their wont be a draft I thought it was implied.
Do not be so certain about there not being a draft. If another trouble spot pops up somewhere around the world. Or if our occupation lasts longer then expected, there is a realistic chance that they will reinstitue the draft. It might be political suicide but there are certainly very possible scenarios where we would have to reinstate the draft. I would fight in any war that i supported. However this is not one of those wars so all i gotta say is "O Canada, our home and native land....."

[RJ2kWJ]

Do not be so certain about there not being a draft. If another trouble spot pops up somewhere around the world. Or if our occupation lasts longer then expected, there is a realistic chance that they will reinstitue the draft. It might be political suicide but there are certainly very possible scenarios where we would have to reinstate the draft. I would fight in any war that i supported. However this is not one of those wars so all i gotta say is "O Canada, our home and native land....."

Im a supporter of Bush and millions heard him say what he said in the last debate. If he goes against that, every person that has the ability to think would be against him. So the only way one would be re-instated would be if John wins and does it.

[watchtwrwildcat]

I'd get my ass kicked instantly. I'd be the shittiest soldier ever.

[DMBLoco]

the military maintains two easy outs:
alternative life style (aka don't ask don't tell, but if you tell, they won't let you in)
conscientous objector (they can draft you, but if you won't pick up a gun and fight, they don't want you)

[jrczj]

To all you cowards that said you would go to Canada, please do everyone a favor and leave now. If called upon and you would not fight for your country, you don't deserve to live here.

[RJ2kWJ]

To all you cowards that said you would go to Canada, please do everyone a favor and leave now. If called upon and you would not fight for your country, you don't deserve to live here.
thank u... they really dont.

[crosscg]

Youd be pitiful to try and get out of going over there.
What does that say about Bush?

[RaynorC]

To all you cowards that said you would go to Canada, please do everyone a favor and leave now. If called upon and you would not fight for your country, you don't deserve to live here.
:thumbsup Oh the things people take for granted....such as...freedom,maybe?

[RaynorC]

What does that say about Bush?
I'm confused about this comment...possibly attacking Bush's National Guard service? He tried to go twice but was rejected because of his lack of experience.

[SatelliteEyes]

To all you cowards that said you would go to Canada, please do everyone a favor and leave now. If called upon and you would not fight for your country, you don't deserve to live here.


If this country were facing the same threat that we were facing during WWII, i.e. germanay and japan had illusions of potentially taking over the world. Or if we were attacked as we were in pearl harbor, by a government sanctioned act, I would not hessitate to fight to preserve our way of life. I would be over there as soon as our government requested my presence.

However, I will not fight to invade a country that is of no threat, had not attacked us and had no ability to do so.

We are not the World Police and I will not die to preserve lower gas prices or get the Vice President's buddies a higher return on their shares of stock.

So I will stay here, pray for the lives and safety of our soldiers and the lives and safety of those innocent people who are stuck in Iraq and are being killed everday because they are in the wrong place and the wrong time...and if it comes down to me fighting in a war like this one and leaving this country I will leave this country every time.

[mmazz72]

To all you cowards that said you would go to Canada, please do everyone a favor and leave now. If called upon and you would not fight for your country, you don't deserve to live here.
and for those who are so gung-ho about going off to fight a ridiculous war...what the hell are you doing here? i'm sure your services would be more than welcome over there.

pack up and skedaddle!

[RJ2kWJ]

and for those who are so gung-ho about going off to fight a ridiculous war...what the hell are you doing here? i'm sure your services would be more than welcome over there.

pack up and skedaddle!
Not gung ho about it. If I was asked to, I would not flee. I would go.

[SatelliteEyes]

Not gung ho about it. If I was asked to, I would not flee. I would go.


I am definitely not doubting you or your patriotism, but when we are fighting a war for no good reason, and American kids are being killed everyday, it is very easy to say one would go over there and fight when there is no threat to actually having to do so.

[RJ2kWJ]

I am definitely not doubting you or your patriotism, but when we are fighting a war for no good reason, and American kids are being killed everyday, it is very easy to say one would go over there and fight when there is no threat to actually having to do so.
Wow this has to be the first post Ive read that isnt just trying to stab someone with a dumb ass comment. I was happy after reading this post haha. I see where your coming from though and Im not exactly sure how to respond.

[psuphan]

If this country were facing the same threat that we were facing during WWII, i.e. germanay and japan had illusions of potentially taking over the world. Or if we were attacked as we were in pearl harbor, by a government sanctioned act, I would not hessitate to fight to preserve our way of life. I would be over there as soon as our government requested my presence.

However, I will not fight to invade a country that is of no threat, had not attacked us and had no ability to do so.

We are not the World Police and I will not die to preserve lower gas prices or get the Vice President's buddies a higher return on their shares of stock.

So I will stay here, pray for the lives and safety of our soldiers and the lives and safety of those innocent people who are stuck in Iraq and are being killed everday because they are in the wrong place and the wrong time...and if it comes down to me fighting in a war like this one and leaving this country I will leave this country every time.




well said :thumbsup

[dylanquirt]

Weve already established that the draft thing was an internet rumor. Unless John decides to start one. Youd be pitiful to try and get out of going over there.


WHo established what?

[dylanquirt]

To all you cowards that said you would go to Canada, please do everyone a favor and leave now. If called upon and you would not fight for your country, you don't deserve to live here.


I'd take my ass to canada way before i'd go kill poor people in the name of corporate interest. In the mean time, i'll stay here.....I hope thats ok with. If you're so gung ho to save the world...buy yourself a one way ticket to North Africa and do some real saving.

[RJ2kWJ]

WHo established what?
Third debate when Bush said HE WOULD NOT HAVE A DRAVE RE-INSTATED. So if it would be done it would be by KERRY. So to me that is established.

[mmazz72]

Third debate when Bush said HE WOULD NOT HAVE A DRAVE RE-INSTATED. So if it would be done it would be by KERRY. So to me that is established.
yeah. because no president has ever gone back on a campaign promise. :rolleyes:

[dylanquirt]

Third debate when Bush said HE WOULD NOT HAVE A DRAVE RE-INSTATED. So if it would be done it would be by KERRY. So to me that is established.


Oh, so he does everything he says he is going to do...how can you honestly say that THERE WILL BE NO DRAFT. he doesn't know whats going to happen down the road. I hate the arrogance of Bush and the Administration....he assumes that everything is going to "continue to be peachy"

[RJ2kWJ]

Oh, so he does everything he says he is going to do...how can you honestly say that THERE WILL BE NO DRAFT. he doesn't know whats going to happen down the road. I hate the arrogance of Bush and the Administration....he assumes that everything is going to "continue to be peachy"
Oh well of course you dont know whats gonna happen down the road. This is why the draft board still exists is incase something catastrophic occurs. But that is ALWAYS the case. Im talking about with how things are going now and such.

[TurboPGT]

So lets see...if you don't support the "war" but are asked to serve, you should abandon your belief and "report to duty" anyway, rather than stand up for what you believe in. That's what u people are saying.

If you support this war at all it means that you do not understand it. Either that or you are not willing to accept the truth that this administration is a failure in foreign relations. And please, this has nothing to do with party affiliation. We are WAY beyond that now. Both partys are full of shit anyway, even though i like one more than the other. This is about truth. People don't like it when they have to accept a truth that scares them or makes them feel unsafe. A natural reaction is to deny it and force yourself to believe the opposite. Theres always someone that will blow smoke up your ass if u ask them too. Unfortunately for us, its our president thats doing it everyday. Ands its especially difficult for some citizens to disagree with the president of the united states. And thats what makes him so succesful....the uninformed in our country have one mindset, "if the president said it must be true." Well if this country had to pass a basic test on current affairs and the issues before being allowed to vote, the uninformed would be weeded out and Senator Kerry would win about 80% of the vote. If the uninformed dont vote, bush loses. By a landslide.

So if your going to embarass us all and support this war, get over there with the rest of those poor kids. Once you get there you'll see a much different picture than you expect. You'll see soldiers and commanders alike frowning, their morale shot. None of them know why they're there, or who they're fighting. And we've gotten them in way over their heads. And they know it.

Is leaving the country in the event of a draft fleeing? If you've ever said, "I support this war." then yes it is. If you are like me and have denounced it since before it even started, then i'd see u as weak and not willing to back your protest. Me, I'd be packing my things and heading for Italy the day I got a draft notice.

[dylanquirt]

So lets see...if you don't support the "war" but are asked to serve, you should abandon your belief and "report to duty" anyway, rather than stand up for what you believe in. That's what u people are saying.

If you support this war at all it means that you do not understand it. Either that or you are not willing to accept the truth that this administration is a failure in foreign relations. And please, this has nothing to do with party affiliation. We are WAY beyond that now. Both partys are full of shit anyway, even though i like one more than the other. This is about truth. People don't like it when they have to accept a truth that scares them or makes them feel unsafe. A natural reaction is to deny it and force yourself to believe the opposite. Theres always someone that will blow smoke up your ass if u ask them too. Unfortunately for us, its our president thats doing it everyday. Ands its especially difficult for some citizens to disagree with the president of the united states. And thats what makes him so succesful....the uninformed in our country have one mindset, "if the president said it must be true." Well if this country had to pass a basic test on current affairs and the issues before being allowed to vote, the uninformed would be weeded out and Senator Kerry would win about 80% of the vote. If the uninformed dont vote, bush loses. By a landslide.

So if your going to embarass us all and support this war, get over there with the rest of those poor kids. Once you get there you'll see a much different picture than you expect. You'll see soldiers and commanders alike frowning, their morale shot. None of them know why they're there, or who they're fighting. And we've gotten them in way over their heads. And they know it.

Is leaving the country in the event of a draft fleeing? If you've ever said, "I support this war." then yes it is. If you are like me and have denounced it since before it even started, then i'd see u as weak and not willing to back your protest. Me, I'd be packing my things and heading for Italy the day I got a draft notice.

well said.
:) :) :thumbsup

[SatelliteEyes]

The day that there is a war that is so important to fight, so important to the future of this nation, so important to all that we believe in that Barbara and Jenna Bush are enlisted and are in the trenches is the day that I too fight for the freedom of this country.

[TurboPGT]

me too :thumbs up

[chiznaz]

If you support this war at all it means that you do not understand it......


If you're against the war then you're unpatriotic and are just as bad as the terrorist. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Well if this country had to pass a basic test on current affairs and the issues before being allowed to vote, the uninformed would be weeded out and Senator Kerry would win about 80% of the vote. If the uninformed dont vote, bush loses. By a landslide.

you just love pulling things out of your ass don't you? Reach a little higher next time.

[chevman]

So lets see...if you don't support the "war" but are asked to serve, you should abandon your belief and "report to duty" anyway, rather than stand up for what you believe in. That's what u people are saying.

Maybe, just maybe, you believe in supporting your country if it calls on you? Personally, I am against the war, but I think if I were asked to serve, either via a mandatory draft, or through a personal request for certain skills that I have, it would be hard to say no. That doesn't mean that I would 'abandon my belief' in regards to my opinion on the war, just that I think civic duty is at times more important than personal opinion. Maybe you believe personal opinion should take precedence - that's cool, I understand that many people feel that way.

If you support this war at all it means that you do not understand it. Either that or you are not willing to accept the truth that this administration is a failure in foreign relations.

How do you presume to know why people support the war?

And please, this has nothing to do with party affiliation. We are WAY beyond that now. Both partys are full of shit anyway, even though i like one more than the other.

I would definitely agree with the above.

This is about truth. People don't like it when they have to accept a truth that scares them or makes them feel unsafe. A natural reaction is to deny it and force yourself to believe the opposite.

See, saying something like this sets yourself up in a bad way. If your argument is based on the fact that you say it's true, what sort of argument is that? Either you know the truth, or are scared by it and buying in to the other side? Which is it? Should I believe your opinion? Might it be somewhat biased?

[dylanquirt]

If you're against the war then you're unpatriotic and are just as bad as the terrorist. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


you just love pulling things out of your ass don't you? Reach a little higher next time.


WOW, i hope that you're kidding. Being able to speak out about against the governemt is one of the most important ideals that this country stands for. Its too bad that you can't think for yourself.

So, if george bush dropped a bomb on, lets say...canada tomarrow, you'd support that? you'd support anything the government did, no exceptions......you're the perfect BUSH supporter.

look up: Free Thinker.
then look up patriotic
then look up jack ass.

[crosscg]

I'm inactive ready reserve after having just served from 12/99 to 12/04. Yep thats the entire war and the WTC attack. I am NOT against the war on terrorism but I am against the war in Iraq. We should be in Afghanistan getting Osama instead of wasting time and money in Iraq. But if called up, which is very possible for me I would do my duty. It's a lot easier for those of you who have never served your country but live in the luxury of freedom our military maintains for us. If you would go to Canada if you were called up you should just go now you ungrateful cowards.

[ss10mets]

I'm inactive ready reserve after having just served from 12/99 to 12/04. Yep thats the entire war and the WTC attack. I am NOT against the war on terrorism but I am against the war in Iraq. We should be in Afghanistan getting Osama instead of wasting time and money in Iraq.

What I've been saying the entire time.... thank god somebody else said it.

[jrczj]

If there was a draft, it certainly won't be easy to flee to Canada.

[crosscg]

If there was a draft, it certainly won't be easy to flee to Canada.
These days they would probably turn you over and then you'd get what you deserved.

[Seankel]

Fuck Canada. I'm goin to Mexico where I can enjoy the beach, a good beer, a taco, and a Latina.

[jrock5730]

I would never fight in Iraq. If I was to go to Iraq, it would be as a haliburton employee. Why go to Iraq for $3000.00 a month when you could go for $7000.00-$10000.00 a month. As it stands, I sit at home and help pay the salaries of the people who should not even be there.

[watchtower86]

i am against the war, but if there were a draft, i would not leave the country. id do what id have to do. id rather not, but i wouldnt leave the country

[dylanquirt]

Fuck Canada. I'm goin to Mexico where I can enjoy the beach, a good beer, a taco, and a Latina.


count me in...I'll see you there!

[chiznaz]

WOW, i hope that you're kidding. Being able to speak out about against the governemt is one of the most important ideals that this country stands for. Its too bad that you can't think for yourself.

So, if george bush dropped a bomb on, lets say...canada tomarrow, you'd support that? you'd support anything the government did, no exceptions......you're the perfect BUSH supporter.

look up: Free Thinker.
then look up patriotic
then look up jack ass.
chill out man... it's called sarcasm. He used an extreme statement on one side of an issue, and I used the polar opposite extreme statement to prove a point. guess you missed that one.

[dylanquirt]

sorry chuck....

Bush's isn't the sharpest tool in the bag though

[TurboPGT]

chill out man... it's called sarcasm. He used an extreme statement on one side of an issue, and I used the polar opposite extreme statement to prove a point. guess you missed that one.



actually u sounded like a communist

[chiznaz]

sorry chuck....

Bush's isn't the sharpest tool in the bag though
He isn't that most intelligent person to ever walk... but I still will take him as a better President than Kerry.

[Eric(h)]

I wouldnt die for my country.

[mdude85]

No -- if I wanted to fight, I would have entered the army.