New England Patriots

[pathetic]

time for brady to do his thing and end their season

[gonz085]

can you guys please throw this game?

A) I hate pittsburgh and i want them out (logically you should too)

B) I want Denver to have a chance to get in (logically, once again, you should too)

[pathetic]

omg what a horrible throw by brady...u kidding me?

[rickyh24]

blolololololo Steelers

[pathetic]

blolololololo Steelers

:lol

[justink]

Now, with that fine piece of ass at home, why would Tom Brady want to go cat around David Carr's cornhole and catch his disease?

[pathetic]

1:56 and 3 time outs

edit: with hoyer :eek

[rickyh24]

and the towel gets thrown in :lol

[pathetic]

hoyer looks better than a rookie out there

Hoyer > Sanchez

[thebridge15]

I have never cared about our losing a game less. I just want Wes back.

[pathetic]

woooo flag thrown! 12 men on the D :lol @ Houston

[pathetic]

what a throw by hoyer! fucking holding

[thebridge15]

This game is ridiculous.

[justink]

Brady benches with the game on the line. Doesn't really matter, but :lol

[rickyh24]

Brady benches with the game on the line. Doesn't really matter, but :lol

I was lol'n when I saw Brady's helmet off. Too funny.

[pathetic]

I LOL'd when i saw brady back in the game in the 3rd

[thebridge15]

Good thing we "laid down" to keep the Steelers out of the playoffs. Jeez am I afraid of them!

[rickyh24]

Good thing we "laid down" to keep the Steelers out of the playoffs. Jeez am I afraid of them!

:lol I love it.

[luke7]

omg what a horrible throw by brady...u kidding me?

He has uncharacteristically done that more this season than ever before. If he made the Pro Bowl this season he didn't deserve it.

[rickyh24]

If he made the Pro Bowl this season he didn't deserve it.

:lol:lol:lol Ya clearly because he has made some bad throws he does not deserve to be there. Pro bowl QB's never make bad throws. :rolleyes

[luke7]

:lol:lol:lol Ya clearly because he has made some bad throws he does not deserve to be there. Pro bowl QB's never make bad throws. :rolleyes

Rivers, Manning and Schaub have been better this season. I'm a huge Brady fan but recall what happened in that 4th and 2 game against the Colts ? Brady threw a bad INT in the endzone that contributed to the loss, a FG there in the end would have won the game. Remember what happened the last time they had the ball the second time they played the Dolphins ? Another bad INT, sealed the Dolphins win and what happened today against the Texans ?

[rickyh24]

Brady didn't even play the whole game today. Did you watch the game? He was put on the team so he deserved it in the end. Every qb makes a few bad plays here and there.

[luke7]

Brady didn't even play the whole game today. Did you watch the game? He was put on the team so he deserved it in the end. Every qb makes a few bad plays here and there.

Was he better than Manning, Rivers and Schaub this season ?

[rickyh24]

Was he better than Manning, Rivers and Schaub this season ?


Apparently some people think so.

[jackisback24]

Was he better than Manning, Rivers and Schaub this season ?
Schaub wasn't that great, Luke. Hit and miss. Manning is starting and Brady is a reserve. Sounds right.

[jackisback24]

Me thinks that Welker's mom not told anything might be a good sign, because I'm sure Wes would've told her something if he knew.

Here's praying for you, kid!

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/rap_sheet/?p=5525&srvc=home&position=recent

[rickyh24]

Nah if the injury is serious The Pats will keep it from everyone.

[luke7]

Apparently some people think so.

Numbers for the season:

Brady - 371 of 565 65.6% 4398 yards 7.78 avg 28 TD 13 INT 96.1 RTG

Schaub - 396 of 583 67.9 % 4770 yards 8.18 avg 29 TD 15 INT 98.6 RTG

I say that Schaub had the better season because I think uncharacteristically this season Brady has done less to win close games and more to lose them. I failed to mention that in the " 4TH and 2 " game not only did Brady throw the bad INT in the endzone, he missed a wide open Welker on that 4th and 2 play.

Of course Brady would get the the Pro Bowl nod over Schaub because he is Tom Brady ( again I am a huge fan of #12 ) and some people get the Pro Bowl vote mixed up with who's the better QB. It's supposed to be an award for a players achievement for that regular season. Plus, voters don't always get it right, example, remember last season when Favre was voted to the AFC roster despite leading the NFL in INTS and Philip Rivers was originally left off ?

Again, I'm a Brady fan but I can be objective on this one.

[rickyh24]

Well those stats pretty much prove it could have went either way. I don't see how they back up your argument of Brady not being deserving at all.

[rickyh24]

And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Brady win one more game and lead his team to a division title?

[luke7]

Well those stats pretty much prove it could have went either way. I don't see how they back up your argument of Brady not being deserving at all.

Schaub's stats are better than Brady's in all categories except INTS.

As a Pats fan can you really say that Tom was " Mr. Clutch " or " Tom Terrific " or " The Golden Boy " when they needed it most this season ? The game costing or very little plays made to win the close games against good teams this season, not to mention the Pats poor road record this year. What about the super slow start he had ? I know he was coming off of an injury but I don't think that should matter when it comes to making the Pro Bowl.

[jackisback24]

And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Brady win one more game and lead his team to a division title?
I just realized that Brady will forever be linked with two rules in the NFL: The Tuck Rule and The Brady Rule with defenders going low on QBs. I think they legitimately have named it the Brady rule.

[luke7]

And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Brady win one more game and lead his team to a division title?

Maybe if he played in a divison with the Colts ( Ol' School AFC East lol ! ) things would be different. Instead he gets the Jets and Bills each twice, not to mention my Dolphins.

[rickyh24]

As a Pats fan can you really say that Tom was " Mr. Clutch " or " Tom Terrific " or " The Golden Boy " when they needed it most this season ?

What does this have to do with if he deserves to be in the pro bowl or not? So pretty much what you're saying is Tom needs to top or match his previous season to be deserving? Not sure I follow that. Could Shaub have been there? Yes. Does this mean Brady doesn't deserve it? No.

[luke7]

What does this have to do with if he deserves to be in the pro bowl or not? So pretty much what you're saying is Tom needs to top or match his previous season to be deserving? Not sure I follow that. Could Shaub have been there? Yes. Does this mean Brady doesn't deserve it? No.

I just don't think that Brady played up to his standard, by that I don't mean the 50 TD's, that's not realistic. I think Schaub was more consistent and Brady did more to lose close games than ever before. Both had solid stats but personally I feel that Schaub deserves it more this year. I'll give this a break for now. Again, I am a huge Brady fan too.

[rickyh24]

I just don't think that Brady played up to his standard

I understand this but again this should have nothing to do with if he is deserving or not.

[thebridge15]

Looks like no matter what happens we play the Ravens first round at home.

[pathetic]

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nfl/news/story?id=4792582&campaign=rss&source=twitter&ex_cid=Twitter_espn_4792582

Fuck he's done...hopefully he can return healthy next year

[rickyh24]

Was there a doubt?

[pathetic]

Was there a doubt?

badly sprained knee. back for next round...i was praying

[rickyh24]

Should have just threw the game like the baby Steeler players that they would :lol

[rickyh24]

badly sprained knee. back for next round...i was praying

It was pretty obvious by Wes's reaction that he was done.

[pathetic]

It was pretty obvious by Wes's reaction that he was done.

i dont pray much

[thebridge15]

Really upset about that. Hopefully we can pull off a win in his honor.

[rickyh24]

i dont pray much

:lol:lol

[jackisback24]

I think it's a big loss but I think Edelman will pick up a lot of the slack and they have enough depth to be okay. Watson will be a big factor as he's been quiet.

How come we didn't go after CB Mike McKenzie when New Orleans released him?

[pats4life2003]

fuckin shit

can't believe this

[thebridge15]

I'm upset. And more upset that the fucking Jets are going second round in the playoffs. We better win.

[rickyh24]

The Jets wont beat the Bengals at full strength.

[thebridge15]

Are you sure? The Jets can play solid D and can run.

[rickyh24]

Are you sure? The Jets can play solid D and can run.

Yup. Especially with the Bengals seeing them two weeks in a row. Benson will be playing next week and they will be home.

[thebridge15]

Yup. Especially with the Bengals seeing them two weeks in a row. Benson will be playing next week and they will be home.Home will definitely help. So will gathering together some kind of passing game.

[rickyh24]

Home will definitely help. So will gathering together some kind of passing game.

Having a running game will help open up the passing game a little bit.

[rickyh24]

If this team went 11-5 last year without Brady they can go 4-0 without Welker.

[thebridge15]

If this team went 11-5 last year without Brady they can go 4-0 without Welker.:thumbsup

I'll miss Wes dearly but Edelman can do fine for the playoffs.

[thebridge15]

Sunday at 1. Here we fucking go.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Poor Wessy. My heart is still breaking for him. :(
Good lord, NE needs to win this weekend. I cannot be the NE fan that I am IN Baltimore and have the Ravens fucking win. No goddamned way.
*crosses fingers for a nor'easter*

[pathetic]

Poor Wessy. My heart is still breaking for him. :(
Good lord, NE needs to win this weekend. I cannot be the NE fan that I am IN Baltimore and have the Ravens fucking win. No goddamned way.
*crosses fingers for a nor'easter*

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! some of us still do live here :lol :lol

no nor'easter, but i'll take a healthy win

[Beebz]

Poor Wessy. My heart is still breaking for him. :(
Good lord, NE needs to win this weekend. I cannot be the NE fan that I am IN Baltimore and have the Ravens fucking win. No goddamned way.
*crosses fingers for a nor'easter*

You really want a nor'easter to limit the only advantage the Pats have over Baltimore? Brady should rip up the Baltimore secondary, but if its sloppy conditions and both teams stay on the ground, Ravens win easily.

[dmbgodagirl41]

You really want a nor'easter to limit the only advantage the Pats have over Baltimore? Brady should rip up the Baltimore secondary, but if its sloppy conditions and both teams stay on the ground, Ravens win easily.

Snow doesn't keep the Pats on the ground.... :)

[Beebz]

Snow doesn't keep the Pats on the ground.... :)

We're not Tennessee.

I have no idea who will win this game Sunday. No idea at all.

[BotheDMBFan]

Welker plays, I say Pats. Welker out, I say Ravens.

[dmbgodagirl41]

I just think it'll go the same way it did when they played during the season, only New England's secondary will be slightly rested and not full with as much suck as they were back then.

[BotheDMBFan]

I just think it'll go the same way it did when they played during the season, only New England's secondary will be slightly rested and not full with as much suck as they were back then.

Did Welker play in that game?

[dmbmuskie]

Welker is a great at what he does and one of my favorite NFL players, but I think the Pats can cope with his loss. Brady makes him great by placing the ball exactly where it needs to be, and I think Brady can made Edelman very good for the next few weeks.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Did Welker play in that game?

So, where's your team ranked in the post season?

[Beebz]

Welker plays, I say Pats. Welker out, I say Ravens.

Pretty sure Welker is out with an ACL/MCL tear.

[BotheDMBFan]

So, where's your team ranked in the post season?

What does this have to do with anything? I was asking a legitimate question, and you got all low and bitchy on me.

[BotheDMBFan]

Welker is a great at what he does and one of my favorite NFL players, but I think the Pats can cope with his loss. Brady makes him great by placing the ball exactly where it needs to be, and I think Brady can made Edelman very good for the next few weeks.

I think Welker means so much more to the Pats offense than any other piece in it, Brady included. Welker basically is the Pats running game.

[jackisback24]

Welker is a great at what he does and one of my favorite NFL players, but I think the Pats can cope with his loss. Brady makes him great by placing the ball exactly where it needs to be, and I think Brady can made Edelman very good for the next few weeks.
+1. I think Welker has better hands and is a better overall receiver, but Edelman is reasonably as quick as Welker and can run routes with sheer agility as well.

[pathetic]

+1. I think Welker has better hands and is a better overall receiver, but Edelman is reasonably as quick as Welker and can run routes with sheer agility as well.

but edelman cant block the way welker can. for a small guy welker is a great blocker. edelman is still adjusting from playing QB in college. his routes and moves arent as quick as welkers, but they will have to do for now...

[Beebz]

+1. I think Welker has better hands and is a better overall receiver, but Edelman is reasonably as quick as Welker and can run routes with sheer agility as well.

Thus continues the time-honored tradition of only comparing white receivers to other white receivers.

[Beebz]

but edelman cant block the way welker can. for a small guy welker is a great blocker. edelman is still adjusting from playing QB in college. his routes and moves arent as quick as welkers, but they will have to do for now...

He whites just as good as Welker, though.

[BotheDMBFan]

Thus continues the time-honored tradition of only comparing white receivers to other white receivers.

Name 5 great white WRs in the past 10 years...

Exactly.

[dmbmuskie]

They're not being compared because they are white. There are a lot of guys in the NFL who do similar things. Edelman is just the most suited player on the Pats to run the 5 yard option routes, IMO. He was scouted and drafted coming out of college to do just that.

Let's call him a quicker less dirty version of Hines Ward.

[pathetic]

He whites just as good as Welker, though.

then what's the big deal?

[jackisback24]

Thus continues the time-honored tradition of only comparing white receivers to other white receivers.
Bianca, I don't understand your comment. Edelman is the guy that is replacing Welker in the slot position. It's already been pretty much confirmed from their side. It's not a white or black issue, it's the guy who is replacing Welker in the playoffs happens to be a white person.

[bigeyefish22]

Thus continues the time-honored tradition of only comparing white receivers to other white receivers.

He whites just as good as Welker, though.

You're joking, right?

[dmbgodagirl41]

I don't see what the huge deal is. Tommy won three SBs with no named WR and defensive guys playing on offense. Mike Vrabel has caught more SB touchdowns for New England than Randy Moss, so should we be concerned that we lost Vrabel and have Moss?

C'mon now....

[BotheDMBFan]

You're joking, right?

No. He and I both hate whitey that much.

[BotheDMBFan]

I don't see what the huge deal is. Tommy won three SBs with no named WR and defensive guys playing on offense. Mike Vrabel has caught more SB touchdowns for New England than Randy Moss, so should we be concerned that we lost Vrabel and have Moss?

C'mon now....

Katie, I use sketchy at best logic a lot; mostly because it is done for humour. But that might be the most stupidest thing I have ever read in my life.

[ProudestAnt]

I don't see what the huge deal is. Tommy won three SBs with no named WR and defensive guys playing on offense. Mike Vrabel has caught more SB touchdowns for New England than Randy Moss, so should we be concerned that we lost Vrabel and have Moss?

C'mon now....
This is just insane...

[bigeyefish22]

Name 5 great white WRs in the past 10 years...

Exactly.

Welker. Chrebet. ... Edelman.

Patrick Crayton and Pierre Garcon. :)

[pathetic]

Hoyer to Edelman is the FUTURE! :lol

[BotheDMBFan]

Welker. Chrebet. ... Edelman.

Patrick Crayton and Pierre Garcon. :)

I thought Crayton was black?

Oh, according to every Madden game ever until about 3 years ago, Torry Holt is white.

[bigeyefish22]

I thought Crayton was black?

Oh, according to every Madden game ever until about 3 years ago, Torry Holt is white.

Crayton and Garcon are honorary whites.

[BotheDMBFan]

Crayton and Garcon are honorary whites.

Najiyyah.

What is that, you ask? Why, Patrick Crayton's wife's name. I shit you not. Honorary white my honky ass.

[ProudestAnt]

Hank Basket...

[bigeyefish22]

Najiyyah.

What is that, you ask? Why, Patrick Crayton's wife's name. I shit you not. Honorary white my honky ass.

Mulva.... Deloris? Najiyyah! Its Najiyyah!

[BotheDMBFan]

Hank Basket...

If you are not a better WR than Devin Hester, then you are not even worth mentioning.

And I asked for greatness, not great for being white.

[pathetic]

Patrick Jeffers scored 12TDs and over 1000yards with Carolina in 1999

Joe Jurevicius

ed McCaffrey

Brandon Stokley

Ricky Proehl

face it...white wide out's are a dying breed

[BotheDMBFan]

Patrick Jeffers scored 12TDs and over 1000yards with Carolina in 1999

Joe Jurevicius

ed McCaffrey

Brandon Stokley

Ricky Proehl

face it...white wide out's are a dying breed

They were once a breed?

[pathetic]

They were once a breed?

a small breed.

[dmbmuskie]

I think the lack of white NFL WRs has a lot to do with the college game, where raw athleticism is far more important than the nuances of reading a defense and running sharp routes.

[BotheDMBFan]

I think the lack of white NFL WRs has a lot to do with the college game, where raw athleticism is far more important than the nuances of reading a defense and running sharp routes.

Or that white people just really suck at WR.

[pathetic]

I think the lack of white NFL WRs has a lot to do with the college game, where raw athleticism is far more important than the nuances of reading a defense and running sharp routes.

which is why gunslinging/big arm QBs like rex grossman and colt brennan would never make it far in the NFL.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Katie, I use sketchy at best logic a lot; mostly because it is done for humour. But that might be the most stupidest thing I have ever read in my life.

Well your logic is no Welker, no chance. Brady has never relied on one guy, so all those who are saying that need to understand that they sound just as ridiculous as my comment about Vrabel. Joking or not.

Again, if your team isn't in the post-season, knock off the cunty comments.:thumbsup:)

[BotheDMBFan]

Well your logic is no Welker, no chance. Brady has never relied on one guy, so all those who are saying that need to understand that they sound just as ridiculous as my comment about Vrabel. Joking or not.

Again, if your team isn't in the post-season, knock off the cunty comments.:thumbsup:)

I never said they had no chance. I said if he's not playing, I would pick the Ravens.

As to the second point, when the Pats missed last year, you were still all full of annoying cunt the entire post season. :) (Still love you n shit though. Crack Sauce 4 LLLLLIIIFFFEEE.)

[pathetic]

i believe the cunty comments belong in the Bash The Pats thread...

[dmbmuskie]

which is why gunslinging/big arm QBs like rex grossman and colt brennan would never make it far in the NFL.

The further you move up the football ladder the less you can rely on your god given ability to get by on.

[BotheDMBFan]

i believe the cunty comments belong in the Bash The Pats thread...

Like asking a fairly simple question, related to the topic at hand, to someone who would know the answer far better than I would?

[BotheDMBFan]

The further you move up the football ladder the less you can rely on your god given ability to get by on.

Basketball is the other way around.

[dmbgodagirl41]

I never said they had no chance. I said if he's not playing, I would pick the Ravens.

As to the second point, when the Pats missed last year, you were still all full of annoying cunt the entire post season. :) (Still love you n shit though. Crack Sauce 4 LLLLLIIIFFFEEE.)

And I'm saying that your opinion that ONE guy makes ALL the difference is the worst logic/comment ever.

How was I annoying? Other than making the valid point that an 11-5 team doesn't make the post-season, and yet an 8-8 team wins their division?

[BotheDMBFan]

And I'm saying that your opinion that ONE guy makes ALL the difference is the worst logic/comment ever.

How was I annoying? Other than making the valid point that an 11-5 team doesn't make the post-season, and yet an 8-8 team wins their division?

He doesn't make "all" the difference. That said, they are two fairly evenly matched teams who played down to the wire the last time they played. If Welker played the last time they played, him not playing this time would lead me to think the Ravens would win, due to Welker being your best receiving option.

Your normal "Fat forehead" shit about Manning; just writing anything down in general anyways.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Like asking a fairly simple question, related to the topic at hand, to someone who would know the answer far better than I would?
That's like asking if Tom Brady played.

Or, you could just literally google something like "2009 Baltimore v. New England Welker" and not look like a prick. Either way. :)

[dmbmuskie]

Basketball is the other way around.

I would bet you would find more guys getting by on smarts and craftiness than raw athleticism in the NBA.

Obviously, all these guys are in the upper .0000000000000001% of people on the planet, but I'm comparing them to each other.

[BotheDMBFan]

That's like asking if Tom Brady played.

Or, you could just literally google something like "2009 Baltimore v. New England Welker" and not look like a prick. Either way. :)

Why? Wasn't Welker hurt earlier this year?

I also figured I would just ask here, because I figured I would not only get the answer, but analysis on his play if he DID play, or how the game went if he didn't. Again, it was an ungodly simple question; that despite my wishes for some in depth commentary, could have been answered monosyllabically.

[BotheDMBFan]

I would bet you would find more guys getting by on smarts and craftiness than raw athleticism in the NBA.

Obviously, all these guys are in the upper .0000000000000001% of people on the planet, but I'm comparing them to each other.

The "Best player in the game" is all athleticism, and very little smarts. (LeBron. Even if I think Kobe is WAAAAYYYY better.)

[dmbgodagirl41]

He doesn't make "all" the difference. That said, they are two fairly evenly matched teams who played down to the wire the last time they played. If Welker played the last time they played, him not playing this time would lead me to think the Ravens would win, due to Welker being your best receiving option.
Your normal "Fat forehead" shit about Manning; just writing anything down in general anyways.
To the bolded: :ugh:freak

[BotheDMBFan]

To the bolded: :ugh:freak

Welker had 123 catches this year. That is fucking insane. His ability to catch those short passes, then make something of them, is fantastic. Randy Moss is certainly more of a home run guy; but Welker is the guy you throw to on 3rd and 5. Which to me is infinitely more important.

[dmbmuskie]

The "Best player in the game" is all athleticism, and very little smarts. (LeBron. Even if I think Kobe is WAAAAYYYY better.)

Kobe is on a whole other level, IMO He's amazingingly technically sound at everything he does, and his basketball IQ is off the charts.

LeBron is the better basketball player form the people who casually watch. Kobe is the better basketball player for people who understand the game.

[BotheDMBFan]

Kobe is on a whole other level, IMO He's amazingingly technically sound at everything he does, and his basketball IQ is off the charts.

LeBron is the better basketball player form the people who casually watch. Kobe is the better basketball player for people who understand the game.

Kobe says he will play until he is 40. With the way he continues to evolve his game to adapt to his body is just remarkable.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Welker had 123 catches this year. That is fucking insane. His ability to catch those short passes, then make something of them, is fantastic. Randy Moss is certainly more of a home run guy; but Welker is the guy you throw to on 3rd and 5. Which to me is infinitely more important.

So let me get this straight, you know how many catches he has, but youre not able to know if he played in the game against Baltimore?

Faulk is good with the short stuff, too. Billy boy will adjust and I think that the only hook-up that I see is the secondary, not anything having to do with the offense. Fred Taylor is back and Maroney will be in next week, along with Watson and Faulk.

Don't think they'll get much past the first round, but they should beat Baltimore. Baltimore has been shitty the past few weeks.

[BotheDMBFan]

So let me get this straight, you know how many catches he has, but youre not able to know if he played in the game against Baltimore?

Faulk is good with the short stuff, too. Billy boy will adjust and I think that the only hook-up that I see is the secondary, not anything having to do with the offense. Fred Taylor is back and Maroney will be in next week, along with Watson and Faulk.

Don't think they'll get much past the first round, but they should beat Baltimore. Baltimore has been shitty the past few weeks.

I decided to look it up, because apparently you didn't know if Welker played or not.

[dmbgodagirl41]

I decided to look it up, because apparently you didn't know if Welker played or not.

Your question came off as sardonic and sarcastic, as though you were saying that the only reason the Patriots won against the Ravens in October was because Welker was there. Since I pick up on this shit and certain sarcastic comments, I felt as though you knew whether or not he played, and was just asking the question to make a prickish point which holds no water.

[BotheDMBFan]

Your question came off as sardonic and sarcastic, as though you were saying that the only reason the Patriots won against the Ravens in October was because Welker was there. Since I pick up on this shit and certain sarcastic comments, I felt as though you knew whether or not he played, and was just asking the question to make a prickish point which holds no water.

I tried to be as unprickish and sarcastic as possible when asking it.

[Beebz]

To the bolded: :ugh:freak

There is no question, none, that Welker is the pats' best wideout. Youre a Pats fan. Are you seriously making the case that its anyone but Welker?

So let me get this straight, you know how many catches he has, but youre not able to know if he played in the game against Baltimore?

Faulk is good with the short stuff, too. Billy boy will adjust and I think that the only hook-up that I see is the secondary, not anything having to do with the offense. Fred Taylor is back and Maroney will be in next week, along with Watson and Faulk.

Don't think they'll get much past the first round, but they should beat Baltimore. Baltimore has been shitty the past few weeks.

Baltimore hasnt been shitty the last two weeks. They've been OK. They make too many mistakes, but if they get the running game going the Ravens will win easily.

[dmbgodagirl41]

There is no question, none, that Welker is the pats' best wideout. Youre a Pats fan. Are you seriously making the case that its anyone but Welker?



Baltimore hasnt been shitty the last two weeks. They've been OK. They make too many mistakes, but if they get the running game going the Ravens will win easily.

I guess it depends on what people mean by "best". I guess I'm so used to not having any stand-out guys on the Patriots, who are so much "better" than others. I'm used to cheering for a bunch of really decent guys who come together to make a team. Randy Moss is the best WR on that team, mainly because he's one of the best in the history of the game. Is Wes clutch and has he done a great job? Hell yeah, but Moss is still the best.

Baltimore has been shitty. Let's be honest. Their schedule was pretty effing easy and 7 of their 16 games were against teams that have made it to the post season. They won ONE of them, and it was to San Diego, who has won what, like 13 in a row now? All the teams they beat? Let's take a gander: Kansas City, San Diego Browns Twice, Denver, Steelers once, Lions, Bears, Raiders. Three of those teams are not out-right shitty and only ONE is in the post season.

I think the Ravens have a chance, hell, any given Sunday, the shit-team can beat the not-quite-as-shit-but-still-pretty-shit team, but I really don't see how Baltimore has proven that they are any good this year and I don't see how anyone can make an argument saying that they are a power house at all.

[dmbmuskie]

I think Welker is the Pats best wideout, but what he brings to the table is easier to replace than what Moss brings to the table. The question will be does Edelman, or whomever they plug in there, have the chemistry with Brady to make things work? Those patterns work so well because Brady has 100% confidence that Welker will go where he thinks he will.

[pathetic]

I think Welker is the Pats best wideout, but what he brings to the table is easier to replace than what Moss brings to the table. The question will be does Edelman, or whomever they plug in there, have the chemistry with Brady to make things work? Those patterns work so well because Brady has 100% confidence that Welker will go where he thinks he will.

yeah i think there will be a few passes that are thrown behind edelman, maybe a botched screen, and a couple missed blocks, but other than that, the gameplan will just be different.

[dmbmuskie]

I think you could also see Faulk getting some more time working as a pass catcher. He runs the same routes as Welker, but he is just normally running them out of the backfield.

Whoever is being used in that role will be 100% prepared for this weekend.

[pathetic]

I think you could also see Faulk getting some more time working as a pass catcher. He runs the same routes as Welker, but he is just normally running them out of the backfield.

Whoever is being used in that role will be 100% prepared for this weekend.

faulk and edelman are both great open field runners, but the problem is getting into the open field against a D like Baltimore. i think it's going to be a good game for the 1st half. i dont think the ravens will match up down the stretch though.

should be an exciting weekend though

[dmbmuskie]

faulk and edelman are both great open field runners, but the problem is getting into the open field against a D like Baltimore. i think it's going to be a good game for the 1st half. i dont think the ravens will match up down the stretch though.

should be an exciting weekend though

Baltimore's rep is far more fearsome than their defense actually is at this point. Their corners suck, and they only average 2 sacks per game.

I think the Pats win fairly easily.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Matt Light better not continue to FUCK UP like he apparently likes to.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Baltimore's rep is far more fearsome than their defense actually is at this point. Their corners suck, and they only average 2 sacks per game.

I think the Pats win fairly easily.

God, you're so sexy.

[rickyh24]

To the bolded: :ugh:freak

Really Katie?

[dmbgodagirl41]

Really Katie?

Welker is not the best wide out on the team. That's why I made the face. Plus, like others have stated, what Welker does could be picked up by a couple guys like Faulk, Watson or Edelman. Overall, Moss is. Not sure why that's such a bold statement on my part.:shrug

[rickyh24]

Overall Welker is the best Wide Out on the team though.

[pathetic]

Moss is the most talented and athletic receiver on our team...but welker best fits our system. i'd much rather go into this game without moss

[dmbmuskie]

God, you're so sexy.
:lol

Overall Welker is the best Wide Out on the team though.

I'm glad to see you came around.

[thebestauntie]

Baltimore's rep is far more fearsome than their defense actually is at this point. Their corners suck, and they only average 2 sacks per game.

I think the Pats win fairly easily.

God, you're so sexy.
You stole my post! :lol

[RJP2741]

Can we all agree in here to refer to Edelman as Welker for the entire post season? I'm just going to pretend Welker is still in there the whole time.

[rickyh24]

I'm glad to see you came around.

I still think Moss is great. The things Welker does to open up the rest of the field are so valuable though. I do think a combination of Maroney, Faulk and Edelman can accomplish the same thing for a few games though.

[dmbgodagirl41]

To be fair, Wes has yet to run over a police officer...so I guess he wins.

[thebridge15]

I miss Wes and the game isn't even going on yet.

[dmbgodagirl41]

My sister, who is Wes's unofficial girlfriend, texted me with "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O!!!!!" right after it happened.

For a sad, horrible moment, I totally laughed.

[thebridge15]

My sister, who is Wes's unofficial girlfriend, texted me with "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O!!!!!" right after it happened.

For a sad, horrible moment, I totally laughed.I'll be honest, I actually loudly yelled out "NO!" when I saw it.

[dmbgodagirl41]

I'll be honest, I actually loudly yelled out "NO!" when I saw it.

I'm pretty sure 98% of patriots fans did. :shrug:(

[dmbmuskie]

My brother, who is somehow a Pats fan, smashed my $100 AV remote right after it happened. As a GA he really doesn't have the money to pay me for it. I did not laugh at all.

[thebridge15]

I'm pretty sure 98% of patriots fans did. :shrug:(Well I was wearing his jersey, as I always do for games. It was sad all around.

[pathetic]

My brother, who is somehow a Pats fan, smashed my $100 AV remote right after it happened. As a GA he really doesn't have the money to pay me for it. I did not laugh at all.

:lol my roommate in college always used to smash my xbox controllers after losing in madden. i think we went through 4 or 5 a year

[dmbgodagirl41]

My brother, who is somehow a Pats fan, smashed my $100 AV remote right after it happened. As a GA he really doesn't have the money to pay me for it. I did not laugh at all.

:thumbsdow sonsabitches, do I have to whup someone's ass for wrecking my man's shit????

Is Katie Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?

[dmbmuskie]

:thumbsdow sonsabitches, do I have to whup someone's ass for wrecking my man's shit????

Is Katie Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?

If it wasn't my brother, I would say yes. I'm sure I've done more than $100 dollars worth of damage to him and his property in the last 23 years.

EDIT: If a Steeler got hurt in meaningless game I would probably start a small riot. I think he handled things pretty well.

[pats4life2003]

pats should still win

[jackisback24]

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nfl/news/story?id=4800984

[pathetic]

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nfl/news/story?id=4800984

i came in here to post this as well :lol

i can see it going to a couple of players, but def brady being #1...hes playing w/ a broken finger and ribs too. crazy

[jackisback24]

i came in here to post this as well :lol

i can see it going to a couple of players, but def brady being #1...hes playing w/ a broken finger and ribs too. crazy
Coach Bells denied the ribs story on Brady yesterday, apparently.

[davelk10]

i came in here to post this as well :lol

i can see it going to a couple of players, but def brady being #1...hes playing w/ a broken finger and ribs too. crazy

No offense but it's a joke of an award. Favre got 4 votes for this thing.

[mattyf878]

Coach Bells denied the ribs story on Brady yesterday, apparently.

Doesn't that pretty much verify it then?

[jackisback24]

should the Pats win on Sunday, does anyone have a clue when they'd play the following weekend? My wife's cousin is in a play in NY and I have to go, but can pick either weekend day. I wish I could figure out the schedule...obviously they'd play SD even if the Jets or Cinc win since they're lower seeded. Thanks in advance.

[rickyh24]

No offense but it's a joke of an award. Favre got 4 votes for this thing.

How is it a joke of an award because Favre got votes?

[thebestauntie]

How is it a joke of an award because Favre got votes?
Because Favre didn't go anywhere, so how could he "comeback"?

[pathetic]

No offense but it's a joke of an award. Favre got 4 votes for this thing.

yeah, favre was hurt last year. remember "unreported" by man-gina


Because Favre didn't go anywhere, so how could he "comeback"?

you kidding?! he went like 1000 miles west!

[thebestauntie]

yeah, favre was hurt last year. remember "unreported" by man-gina




you kidding?! he went like 1000 miles west!
But he didn't go away.

[rickyh24]

Because Favre didn't go anywhere, so how could he "comeback"?

He sucked it up on The Jets last year then came back to have a great year with the Vikes.

[rickyh24]

"Come Back" doesn't necessarily mean the player didn't play the year before.

[thebestauntie]

He sucked it up on The Jets last year then came back to have a great year with the Vikes.

"Come Back" doesn't necessarily mean the player didn't play the year before.
I keep forgetting that the Jets didn't make the playoffs last year.

[thebridge15]

I keep forgetting that the Jets didn't make the playoffs last year.Probably because they really blew it.

[rickyh24]

ESPN Insider preview of the Ravens game


After breaking down film of both teams, Scouts Inc. offers 10 things to watch in this week's Ravens-Patriots matchup.

1. Ravens must maximize Ray Rice: Patriots coach Bill Belichick is a master at taking away what an opposing offense does best. With the Ravens, Belichick might choose to eliminate Joe Flacco's favorite weapon, Derrick Mason, or he might look to take away the overall contributions of Rice, which would be much more difficult but more effective. New England did not lose a game at home during the regular season, including a Week 4 victory over Baltimore, and if the Ravens are unable to maximize the production of their best weapon, that win streak should continue.

2. Run the ball: This goes hand in hand with the above point, but keeping Tom Brady off the field and controlling the flow of the game is very important for the Ravens in what could be harsh weather conditions. Not only was Rice a big factor -- as always -- in Week 17, but Willis McGahee ran for 167 yards. Rice also eclipsed 100 yards in New England earlier in the season. The Ravens will often bring a sixth offensive linemen in the game to try to establish their physical dominance, but the Patriots' Vince Wilfork and Ty Warren are two of the elite run stuffers in this league and should be healthier than they were to finish the regular season. Both were inactive in Week 17 when the Patriots allowed 144 yards on the ground to Houston.

3. Keep New England honest with the passing game: Flacco is just in his second NFL season and doesn't have elite weaponry at his disposal. He could only muster 102 passing yards last week. But Flacco is smart and composed with a rifle on his right shoulder. He can threaten the defense at all levels and is very advanced for his age. Leigh Bodden is probably the best of New England's cover men, but he isn't someone to necessarily fear. Shawn Springs can be exploited though, as can Jonathan Wilhite.

4. Win in the trenches: The matchups in the trenches look very competitive. The Ravens' Haloti Ngata is capable of taking a game over and paired with Kelly Gregg, can eliminate the Patriots' interior run threat. On offense, Baltimore is very young, but very talented up front. They might have a tough time with crowd noise and deciphering the Pats' defense along with the physical battle against a great defensive line, but don't underestimate this unit that has allowed Baltimore to rush for about four and a half yards per attempt this season.

5. Recover from the loss of Wes Welker: Julian Edelman will play the Welker role out of the slot and act as an extension to New England's running game. Brady stayed in last week's game longer than expected to get Edelman ready for this game and Edelman caught 10 passes for 103 yards. While their style of play is similar, there is a big dropoff in the passing game without Welker. Edelman surely will not interpret the option routes designed for Welker as well. The Pats are also an excellent overall screen offense and we should expect to see more of that with Welker unavailable.

6. Get pressure on Flacco: Maybe the only bright spot in New England's pass rush is Tully Banta-Cain, who has exceeded expectations. But overall, rushing the passer is New England's biggest weakness. Derrick Burgess does have a pass rushing pedigree and played a strong game last week, but getting to Flacco will not prove easy, as the Ravens' offensive line is a very talented bunch, despite Flacco being sacked four times in Oakland. Expect to see the Ravens throwing on first downs -- when New England isn't keying the pass -- to help them stay on schedule offensively.

7. Use extra offensive linemen: Led by exceptional guard play and tremendous coaching, the Patriots feature a formidable offensive line. It is a better run blocking group than in protection, but is strong in the passing game as well. New England likes to employ a sixth offensive lineman. We might see more of this grouping with Welker out, as it helps New England get their best available players on the field. The Pats have allowed just two sacks since Week 12. Despite their reputation, Baltimore hasn't rushed the passer all that well this year, but their last five opponents have averaged a measly 3.2 yards per rush.

8. Stay balanced: The Patriots offense is often considered a high-flying passing attack that sometimes runs the ball, but that is not the case when they're at their best. While the Pats will strive for balance, even with Welker out of the lineup, look for New England to dictate personnel groupings and force Baltimore to use extra defensive backs. The Ravens are very weak in the secondary and the Patriots would force them to take a formidable front seven player off the field in exchange for a marginal defensive back. New England will still run the ball in this situation, but the Ravens might have had the best run defense in the league this year. Balance will also help WR Randy Moss, who may get frustrated with the constant double teams.

9. Matchup to watch: Patriots QB Tom Brady vs. Ravens S Ed Reed: Brady has a massive advantage over the Ravens' secondary, especially at the cornerback positions. But Reed -- even not at 100 percent -- is someone who Brady must fear and respect. With the injuries Brady is playing with, it is extra important to keep him protected, even if Baltimore's best pass rusher, Terrell Suggs, also does not appear 100 percent healthy.

10. Matchup to watch: Ravens RB Ray Rice vs. Patriots ILB Jerod Mayo: Stopping Rice will be a group project, but Mayo will be the most recognizable defender in this pursuit. Mayo will often cover Rice out of the backfield and these two will meet up when Mayo blitzes, but the most meaningful encounters are sure to happen on running plays. Mayo is now healthy and playing excellent football.


Baltimore 13
New England 17

[Crush086]

I expect a higher scored game than 13 and 17. Something like this maybe:

Baltimore 30
New England 24

[pathetic]

wooooo free insider :lol

[rickyh24]

i expect a higher scored game than 13 and 17. Something like this maybe:

Baltimore 30
new england 24

10/10

[RJP2741]

Remind me never to pay for Insider. The score will be higher though.

[rickyh24]

I get insider for free with my ESPN Mag subscription. Which I paid like 30 bucks for 3 years off. I would never pay for it. It is such a joke.

[BotheDMBFan]

I get insider for free with my ESPN Mag subscription. Which I paid like 30 bucks for 3 years off. I would never pay for it. It is such a joke.

You paid for ESPN the magazine?

[rickyh24]

You paid for ESPN the magazine?

Yeah I rarely even open them though :lol I got suckered in by some kid from the ghetto that was trying to find Jesus by selling magazines door to door. I had a good night at the poker table the night before so I decided to help him out.

[pats4life2003]

Si>espn

[dmbgodagirl41]

I say
NE: 48
Baltimore: 2

;) :D

[thebestauntie]

I say
NE: 48
Baltimore: 2

;) :D
No bias, right? :lol

[RJP2741]

I say
NE: 48
Baltimore: 2

;) :D

You really think Brady would let himself get safety-ed? Some expert you are.

[pathetic]

Yeah I rarely even open them though :lol I got suckered in by some kid from the ghetto that was trying to find Jesus by selling magazines door to door. I had a good night at the poker table the night before so I decided to help him out.

:lol :lol

Si>espn

i get both of them, rarely touch either of them, and dont remember paying for either subscription

[pathetic]

You really think Brady would let himself get safety-ed? Some expert you are.

Maroney, FTL

[Crush086]

Yeah I rarely even open them though :lol I got suckered in by some kid from the ghetto that was trying to find Jesus by selling magazines door to door. I had a good night at the poker table the night before so I decided to help him out.
:lol:lol:lol
I say
NE: 48
Baltimore: 2

;) :D
48 by that band of ragamuffins? Not a chance.

[RJP2741]

Maroney, FTL

Maroney would fumble though and give up a TD instead of a safety.

[pathetic]

Maroney would fumble though and give up a TD instead of a safety.

now that i think of it, he's more likely to fumble going in for a TD

[RJP2741]

That too. :lol

[thebestauntie]

:lol:lol:lol

48 by that band of ragamuffins? Not a chance.
Who let you in here? Oh my gosh, it just dawned on me that we're playing the Ravens on Sunday! Ha ha ha, let the trash talk begin! :lol:lol

[pathetic]

Who let you in here? Oh my gosh, it just dawned on me that we're playing the Ravens on Sunday! Ha ha ha, let the trash talk begin! :lol:lol

where have you been the past 5 days? :confused

[Crush086]

Who let you in here? Oh my gosh, it just dawned on me that we're playing the Ravens on Sunday! Ha ha ha, let the trash talk begin! :lol:lol
I know, right? Since the Ravens will be slaughtering some Patriots this weekend, expect to see more of me!

Consider it a late Christmas present.

[pathetic]

I know, right? Since the Ravens will be slaughtering some Patriots this weekend, expect to see more of me!

Consider it a late Christmas present.
hope it comes with a gift receipt

[Crush086]

hope it comes with a gift receipt
I'd be a jerk if I gave a gift with a receipt.

[thebestauntie]

where have you been the past 5 days? :confused
Busy with the new job and settling in. :freak
I know, right? Since the Ravens will be slaughtering some Patriots this weekend, expect to see more of me!

Consider it a late Christmas present.
I knew there was a reason I didn't get you anything.
hope it comes with a gift receipt
For reelz.
I'd be a jerk if I gave a gift with a receipt.
Why isn't that in the present tense?

[Crush086]

Busy with the new job and settling in. :freak

I knew there was a reason I didn't get you anything.

For reelz.

Why isn't that in the present tense?
Aren't you just hilarious?

btw, your avatar sucks. You should get a better one, like my new one.

[thebestauntie]

Aren't you just hilarious?

btw, your avatar sucks. You should get a better one, like my new one.
I am pretty funny.

Uh no, my avatar kicks ass, thank you very much. Yours on the other hand...

[Crush086]

I lack a good wit.

Yes, my avatar is rather mediocre, thank you very much. Yours on the other hand, is by far the best I've ever seen!
Fixed, because I know you were too impressed to finish the sentence.

[pathetic]

Fixed, because I know you were too impressed to finish the sentence.

i prefer that 1

http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Features/2009/07/Cover%20Athlete%20Criminals/Screens/Lewis/RayLewisMugshot1--article_image.jpg

[Crush086]

i prefer that 1

http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/gamesradar/us/features/2009/07/cover%20athlete%20criminals/screens/lewis/raylewismugshot1--article_image.jpg
4/10

[pathetic]

4/10

oh, come on...

[thebestauntie]

Fixed, because I know you were too impressed to finish the sentence.
Impressed is hardly the word I would use.

[Crush086]

Impressed is hardly the word I would use.
True, true. I should've said bedazzled.

This feels just like the Red Sox thread. Except one team has yet to get owned in the playoffs.

[thebestauntie]

True, true. I should've said bedazzled.

This feels just like the Red Sox thread. Except one team has yet to get owned in the playoffs.
What?!

[Crush086]

What?!
Don't worry, the parallels with the Red Sox thread will be there when New England makes a quick exit from the postseason this weekend.

Joe Flacco has the poise of a 10 year vet, and will lead his team to another AFC Championship game (and maybe more).

[thebestauntie]

Don't worry, the parallels with the Red Sox thread will be there when New England makes a quick exit from the postseason this weekend.

Joe Flacco has the poise of a 10 year vet, and will lead his team to another AFC Championship game (and maybe more).
Really? Do you want to look at the playoff records of the Patriots vs the playoff records of the Ravens? Really?

[Crush086]

Really? Do you want to look at the playoff records of the Patriots vs the playoff records of the Ravens? Really?
Yeah, like this is the same Patriots that squandered a perfect season years ago.

[dmbmuskie]

NE fans welcome to my world. Baltimore has some of the WORST fans ever.

[thebestauntie]

Yeah, like this is the same Patriots that squandered a perfect season years ago.
I'll still take a 3-6 showing in the Super Bowl over a 1-1 showing.

3 > 1

[Crush086]

NE fans welcome to my world. Baltimore has some of the WORST fans ever.
lol. The irony is awesome.
I'll still take a 3-6 showing in the Super Bowl over a 1-1 showing.

3 > 1
Fair enough. Either way, in all honesty, I expect the Ravens to win this time around. I know the playoffs are a different animal, but Joe Flacco plays years ahead of his time, and as close as it was earlier this year, I think getting the win is totally feasible.

[dmbmuskie]

lol. The irony is awesome.

Fair enough. Either way, in all honesty, I expect the Ravens to win this time around. I know the playoffs are a different animal, but Joe Flacco plays years ahead of his time, and as close as it was earlier this year, I think getting the win is totally feasible.

Why? All I ever hear about from the Ravens fans is how the refs are against them, and that the Steelers get all the calls.

I complain about the Steelers a lot, but they're usually complaints like play calling sucks and the coverage units never get addressed. Yes, James Harrisson gets held a lot, but it's not like I believe their is some NFL conspiract against him.

[thebestauntie]

lol. The irony is awesome.

Fair enough. Either way, in all honesty, I expect the Ravens to win this time around. I know the playoffs are a different animal, but Joe Flacco plays years ahead of his time, and as close as it was earlier this year, I think getting the win is totally feasible.
Well we shall see what Sunday has to offer. If the defense was playing better, I would be all up in your face, but they've blown how many 4th quarter leads this year? So I'm not overly confident about Sunday. However, I don't necessarily think Baltimore has it in the bag either.

[dmbmuskie]

Flacco was just average this year. QB play might be at an all time high right now. When you compare him to an average young QB he is playing well, but when you compare him to the other 32 starters he's in the middle overall and even lower per play.

[thebestauntie]

Flacco was just average this year. QB play might be at an all time high right now. When you compare him to an average young QB he is playing well, but when you compare him to the other 32 starters he's in the middle overall and even lower per play.
Couldn't agree more.

[Crush086]

Why? All I ever hear about from the Ravens fans is how the refs are against them, and that the Steelers get all the calls.

I complain about the Steelers a lot, but they're usually complaints like play calling sucks and the coverage units never get addressed. Yes, James Harrisson gets held a lot, but it's not like I believe their is some NFL conspiract against him.
Relax, I'm joking. I may be one of the few that don't think there's a conspiracy against them and that the refs screw them over and all that.
Well we shall see what Sunday has to offer. If the defense was playing better, I would be all up in your face, but they've blown how many 4th quarter leads this year? So I'm not overly confident about Sunday. However, I don't necessarily think Baltimore has it in the bag either.
In the bag, maybe not. But, I think if it comes down to a final drive by the Ravens, Flacco takes them down the field and wins it. I would also hope that Ray Rice is used to the fullest. The only thing I worry about is the Ravens playing too aggressive and letting Brady torch them.
Flacco was just average this year. QB play might be at an all time high right now. When you compare him to an average young QB he is playing well, but when you compare him to the other 32 starters he's in the middle overall and even lower per play.
I'm going to assume you're jumping into all those intricate stats, so I'll just say that I trust Flacco and his decision making to pull us past the Patriots.

[Beebz]

Why? All I ever hear about from the Ravens fans is how the refs are against them, and that the Steelers get all the calls.

I complain about the Steelers a lot, but they're usually complaints like play calling sucks and the coverage units never get addressed. Yes, James Harrisson gets held a lot, but it's not like I believe their is some NFL conspiract against him.

I dont think the refs are against them in some form of conspiracy, but I do think they get jobbed disproportionately because of their attitude, particularly on defense.

[dmbgodagirl41]

No bias, right? :lol

Haha no, not at all!

You really think Brady would let himself get safety-ed? Some expert you are.

Matt Light would let him get saftey-ed.

[thebestauntie]

Relax, I'm joking. I may be one of the few that don't think there's a conspiracy against them and that the refs screw them over and all that.

In the bag, maybe not. But, I think if it comes down to a final drive by the Ravens, Flacco takes them down the field and wins it. I would also hope that Ray Rice is used to the fullest. The only thing I worry about is the Ravens playing too aggressive and letting Brady torch them.

I'm going to assume you're jumping into all those intricate stats, so I'll just say that I trust Flacco and his decision making to pull us past the Patriots.
Quite the prediction there, seeing as 4 teams have managed to do that against the Pats this year. :lol

[dmbgodagirl41]

Aren't you just hilarious?

btw, your avatar sucks. You should get a better one, like my new one.

I dont think LA wants a murderer as her avatar. That doesn't portray a very nice thing.

[thebridge15]

Haha no, not at all!



Matt Light would let him get saftey-ed.No chance. Holding in the endzone is the only thing that could get us safety-ed.

[thebestauntie]

I dont think LA wants a murderer as her avatar. That doesn't portray a very nice thing.
Yeah, I'm a big fan of not promoting criminals.

[dmbgodagirl41]

If you have a single-digit as the first number in your record, the fuck you deserve to be in the post season.

Get the fuck outta here.

[dmbmuskie]

I dont think the refs are against them in some form of conspiracy, but I do think they get jobbed disproportionately because of their attitude, particularly on defense.

If they turned off the aggressiveness and attitude on defense in order to eliminate the questionable calls do you think they could still play at a high level?

I think the calls are just a result of the style they play, which has a lot more value over the course of a season than a couple questionable calls. The same thing goes for the Steelers.

[rickyh24]

Awww the one Ravens fan on this board actually thinks they have a chance....cute.

[Crush086]

Yeah, I'm a big fan of not promoting criminals.
Fine then, promote the greatest linebacker in the history of the NFL.
If you have a single-digit as the first number in your record, the fuck you deserve to be in the post season.

Get the fuck outta here.
Even more reason for the Patsies to murder the Ravens, right?
Awww the one Ravens fan on this board actually thinks they have a chance....cute.
I hate you.

[thebestauntie]

Awww the one Ravens fan on this board actually thinks they have a chance....cute.
Oh my God, I love you! :lol:lol

[Beebz]

Awww the one Ravens fan on this board actually thinks they have a chance....cute.

I think they're gonna win. Ravens find a way to turn it on in the playoffs all the time. It wont be an easy game for them at all, but they match up well, especially with Welker out. I think Cameron is going to give them some new looks and keep it on the ground, and that should be enough to get it done.

[rickyh24]

I think they're gonna win. Ravens find a way to turn it on in the playoffs all the time.

as opposed to the Pats Laying down in the Playoffs all the time?

especially with Welker out.

Edelman had 10 for 100+ after Welker got hurt last week.

[pathetic]

I think they're gonna win. Ravens find a way to turn it on in the playoffs all the time. It wont be an easy game for them at all, but they match up well, especially with Welker out. I think Cameron is going to give them some new looks and keep it on the ground, and that should be enough to get it done.

blolololol the blueprint to beat the pats ladies and gentleman!

[Beebz]

as opposed to the Pats Laying down in the Playoffs all the time?

Edelman had 10 for 100+ after Welker got hurt last week.

I love that Pats fans cling to this stat like its their playoff future. :lol

You played Houston, one of the worst defenses in football, in a meaningless game. The coaching staff didnt see Edleman on film, didnt game-plan for him, and didnt give a shit anyway.

Edleman has played WR in exactly, what, three games? Four? You cant assume they're going to shred one of the best defenses in football like they did Houston.

blolololol the blueprint to beat the pats ladies and gentleman!

Ray Rice averaged 9.3 YPC the last time these two teams met. The Ravens' running game has actually improved since then. You're going to have to find an answer to our punishing ground game.

[pathetic]

Ray Rice averaged 9.3 YPC the last time these two teams met. The Ravens' running game has actually improved since then. You're going to have to find an answer to our punishing ground game.

i dont believe mayo played in the 1st game. that's a step into the right direction to stopping the ground game...

[rickyh24]

I love that Pats fans cling to this stat like its their playoff future. :lol


I love how Ravens fan cling to the "but youz guyz haz no Wes Welkerzz now!!!1!!" statement like its their playoff future.

[dmbgodagirl41]

I think they're gonna win. Ravens find a way to turn it on in the playoffs all the time. It wont be an easy game for them at all, but they match up well, especially with Welker out. I think Cameron is going to give them some new looks and keep it on the ground, and that should be enough to get it done.

Why, because they've gotten to the super bowl in this century?

[RJP2741]

I think they're gonna win. Ravens find a way to turn it on in the playoffs all the time. It wont be an easy game for them at all, but they match up well, especially with Welker out. I think Cameron is going to give them some new looks and keep it on the ground, and that should be enough to get it done.

blolololol the blueprint to beat the pats ladies and gentleman!

:lol:lol:lol:thumbsup I hope that's the route they decide to go.

[thebestauntie]

I think they're gonna win. Ravens find a way to turn it on in the playoffs all the time. It wont be an easy game for them at all, but they match up well, especially with Welker out. I think Cameron is going to give them some new looks and keep it on the ground, and that should be enough to get it done.
What, and the Patriots don't? How many AFC Championship games have the Ravens to again?
Why, because they've gotten to the super bowl in this century?
Blololololololololololo

[pathetic]

http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/football/patriots/view/20100108moss_not_at_practice/srvc=home&position=recent

ok...thats strange. moss not spotted at practice and also not on the injury list yet he's been "hobbling around with ice on his knees all week"

hopefully it's nothing and he was just taking a shit or something

[RJP2741]

That's not exactly reassuring.

[jackisback24]

That's not exactly reassuring.
resting for the game.

[smudge1]

resting for the game.He'll get to rest on the bench, while Ray Rice runs around the field.:lol

[pathetic]

He'll get to rest on the bench, while Ray Rice runs around the field.:lol

pats shut down mojo drew 2 weeks ago when jax was still fighting for the playoffs...there's no way ray rice is even close to mojo status. they'll shut him down easily

[rickyh24]

He'll get to rest on the bench, while Ray Rice runs around the field.:lol

lol we got a Bucs fan over here everyone!!

[smudge1]

lol we got a Bucs fan over here everyone!!
Hell Yeah! I'll stick with my team through the bad and the bad, and sometimes the good.

[pathetic]

Hell Yeah! I'll stick with my team through the bad and the bad, and sometimes the good.

but mostly the really, really bad

[rickyh24]

I'm trying to remember anything remotely good happening for the Bucs in recent years and all that comes to my head is Mike Allstott.

[RJP2741]

I'm trying to remember anything remotely good happening for the Bucs in recent years and all that comes to my head is Mike Allstott.

Warrick Done?

[dmbmuskie]

I'm trying to remember anything remotely good happening for the Bucs in recent years and all that comes to my head is Mike Allstott.

They managed to con the Bears into giving them a first day pick for Top 5 bust Gaines Adams.

[pathetic]

I'm trying to remember anything remotely good happening for the Bucs in recent years and all that comes to my head is Mike Allstott.

Warrick Done?

come on man...there's atleast 3

gruden
Cadillac williams (top 3 in comeback player of the year)
Dunn

[dmbmuskie]

Caddy managed to finish a season without his knee exploding.

[TempHelpNeeded]

Chris Simms' spleen.

[RJP2741]

It would also be hard to argue with the Trent Dilfer era.

[pathetic]

Chris Simms' spleen.

blololololololol

[rickyh24]

I stand corrected. Amazing franchise.

[jackisback24]

Doug Williams. Warren Sapp.

[kingchrisII]

Why, because they've gotten to the super bowl in this century?

And the conference championship last year.... where were the Pats? :lol

[rickyh24]

And the conference championship last year.... where were the Pats? :lol

Sitting home with an 11 - 5 record. After playing the whole season with a backup Qb. Which actually is funnier now since joke teams with only 9 wins are getting in.

[kingchrisII]

Sitting home with an 11 - 5 record. After playing the whole season with a backup Qb. Which actually is funnier now since joke teams with only 9 wins are getting in.

Oh 11-5? Arent you guys 10-6 this year? Damn, your backup led you to a better record than Tom Brady? :lol

[jackisback24]

Let's go Booooooys! Brady will be inspired to play a big game today. Flacco is hurt, Ed Reed is hurt, the time is ripe for picking!!!

[thebridge15]

I'm sooo nervous.

[jackisback24]

I'm sooo nervous.
I like it when Brady is forced to be inspired. He's a big game player, especially at home. Faulk is the X factor today...some screens are coming!!!

[thebestauntie]

Well that's a sucky way to start the game. :thumbsdow

[crashintonickdm]

they will rush for more than 250 yards

[TempHelpNeeded]

Celtics!!!

[OneSwtWld34]

When did the Pats trade for Jay Cutler?? Nice throw Tom... :lol