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pathetic

10-17-2010, 04:25 PM

ok, hernandez is done for today. cant drop 2 in OT and still play

dmbbearcat

10-17-2010, 04:25 PM

Hernandez wants to get benched.

rickyh24

10-17-2010, 04:25 PM

another drive down the tubes because of a drop...wtf

pathetic

10-17-2010, 04:27 PM

did welker catch that?

rickyh24

10-17-2010, 04:28 PM

Not a catch.

pathetic

10-17-2010, 04:28 PM

fuck...an inch shy. i dont think they can place the ball anywhere else either...go for that shit!

rickyh24

10-17-2010, 04:28 PM

Does it really matter though?

pathetic

10-17-2010, 04:29 PM

Does it really matter though?

can they remark the football?

rickyh24

10-17-2010, 04:29 PM

Wow did they wait long enough to call that review down?? wtf..

rickyh24

10-17-2010, 04:30 PM

can they remark the football?

They are punting either way.

pathetic

10-17-2010, 04:31 PM

another stop D...

pathetic

10-17-2010, 04:31 PM

what a fucking punt by mesko!!!!!

rickyh24

10-17-2010, 04:32 PM

What a punt.

pathetic

10-17-2010, 04:33 PM

hahahhahaah what a dumb penalty by baltimore

rickyh24

10-17-2010, 04:34 PM

:lol I'll take it

pathetic

10-17-2010, 04:34 PM

another chance for tb...gotta do it now

pathetic

10-17-2010, 04:36 PM

branch!!!! yezzzzzzzzzir

rickyh24

10-17-2010, 04:36 PM

Yaaa Branch!!!!!!

pathetic

10-17-2010, 04:36 PM

inside range now!!!!

rickyh24

10-17-2010, 04:37 PM

Nice I needed a beer.

pathetic

10-17-2010, 04:38 PM

lisa aint around?

pathetic

10-17-2010, 04:39 PM

crumplers 1st catch of the season :lol

u see that idiot in the "Moss Who?" shirt?

rickyh24

10-17-2010, 04:40 PM

ahhhh Branch so nice to have you back.

pathetic

10-17-2010, 04:40 PM

branch is having a game!!!!

Beebz

10-17-2010, 04:40 PM

Terrible loss. Ravens coaching staff should be in some hot water after this one. Punting on fourth and an inch, throwing checkdowns in OT. That game was totally in the ravens control and they absolutely blew it.

pathetic

10-17-2010, 04:43 PM

Great Win!!!! could have gone either way, but the pats played well on offense against a dominant D. and the defense stepped up in a big way!!!!

rickyh24

10-17-2010, 04:44 PM

fuck yes!!!!! Big Win!!!

Randy Who!!??? ?

Beebz

10-17-2010, 04:45 PM

The ravens don't have a dominant pass defense. At all. Been saying that all year and finally someone exposed them.

Still, this loss is totally on the coaching staff. Utter disgrace.

cry_minarets458

10-17-2010, 04:52 PM

The ravens don't have a dominant pass defense. At all. Been saying that all year and finally someone exposed them.

Still, this loss is totally on the coaching staff. Utter disgrace.
Completely agree, and I've been saying it for years. We haven't since McAllister was healthy back in the day.

thebestauntie

10-17-2010, 04:53 PM

PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :multi :multi :multi :multi :multi :multi :multi

rickyh24

10-17-2010, 04:54 PM

4-1 just beat what a lot of people thought is the best team in the league. Good day.

thebestauntie

10-17-2010, 04:55 PM

4-1 just beat what a lot of people thought is the best team in the league. Good day.
That reminds me, I need to update my user title. ;) :D :thumbsup

rickyh24

10-17-2010, 04:56 PM

check out the front page of

http://www.nfl.com/

Beebz

10-17-2010, 05:01 PM

4-1 just beat what a lot of people thought is the best team in the league. Good day.

At home....coming off a bye....with the ravens missing their best defensive player.

The win counts, but I think the ravens are still the better teams. Before all the mouthbreathing pats fans go crazy, I think the steelers are better than the ravens and the ravens beat them on the road.

Oh, and thanks for covering. I made a lot of money on that win.

pathetic

10-17-2010, 05:14 PM

pats proved they are a top 3 if not best team in the afc

Beebz

10-17-2010, 05:19 PM

pats proved they are a top 3 if not best team in the afc

Because they won a home game in OT coming off a bye?

I think they're fourth behind steelers, ravens, and jets. But they are certainly capable of winning the afc.

rickyh24

10-17-2010, 05:20 PM

At home....coming off a bye....with the ravens missing their best defensive player.

omg excuses...Ray Lewis didn't play?

pathetic

10-17-2010, 05:37 PM

yes because they won a home game against a superbowl favorite.

great win.

rickyh24

10-17-2010, 05:40 PM

Bring on the Chargers.

Beebz

10-17-2010, 05:43 PM

omg excuses...Ray Lewis didn't play?

Ray Lewis is maybe the third best player on that D behind reed and ngata.

pathetic

10-17-2010, 05:44 PM

bodden is one of the pats best defense players and he's out for the season. dont give me bullshit excuses

rickyh24

10-17-2010, 06:50 PM

Buccaneers!!!

same record as the Pats after today!

Fail....

dmbgodagirl41

10-17-2010, 09:15 PM

pathetic

10-17-2010, 09:30 PM

rickyh24

10-17-2010, 09:34 PM

Ravens :lol

pathetic

10-17-2010, 09:35 PM

win didnt count...ed reed was out

dmbgodagirl41

10-17-2010, 09:36 PM

lulz Failco.

I can't wait to hear that dicksmack RayRay on the radio tomorrow crying about how the refs are against the Ravens. go kill someone, roidhead.

rickyh24

10-17-2010, 09:36 PM

win didnt count...ed reed was out

:lol:lol

dmbgodagirl41

10-17-2010, 09:39 PM

my bad...out scored 3-16.

pathetic

10-17-2010, 09:40 PM

i cant wait to hear TB on the radio tomorrow talking about how the offense needs work (by the way how did the jets offense do against balt?)

dmbgodagirl41

10-17-2010, 09:43 PM

I just love that a team of offensive newbies > "obvious SB champs/stacked veteran team".

Crush086

10-17-2010, 11:06 PM

yes because they won a home game against a superbowl favorite.

great win.
Are you serious? The Ravens are a solid team, but they're defense is nowhere near making them a SB favorite. Nice way to build your team up though. Where's ricky at? I know he was making a billion excuses about them having "a bunch of young guys and rookies" and the "Pats are playing like shit". I can't wait to see his flip flop on how good they are.
I just love that a team of offensive newbies > "obvious SB champs/stacked veteran team".
Again, not sure where the obvious SB champs is coming from, but the Ravens took it to them in their house.

Either way, good game, and with all the trash I was talking earlier, I will own up to it and say good game to the victors. Maybe we'll get to do it again in the postseason.

rickyh24

10-17-2010, 11:13 PM

thebestauntie

10-17-2010, 11:27 PM

Hotel Six

10-18-2010, 12:45 AM

solid win...the defense has surprised me over the last two weeks, coming together in crunch time

Beebz

10-18-2010, 07:34 AM

Go Pats!!

Love the excuses in here. NE loses Moss and Bodden is out...and a rookie defense just stopped the "unstoppable " Ravens offense. and somehow the Ravens are suddenly the "obvious" under dogs. the ravens were up by 10 in the last quarter and were outscored 3 - 14.

suck it, charm city. i cant wait to turn on the radio and hear the city-wide sob fest tomorrow. Brady is fucking back!!

Reed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bodden.

There was literally no one anywhere saying the Raven's offense was unstoppable. Good lord.

The were underdogs, genius. Vegas had the Pats as a three-point favorite. :lol:lol:lol

Defense is still young and overall has not been that good this season. Not sure what is so hard to understand about that it's not excuses its just the truth. Like I said anyone with half a brain that knows football knows this is the case. They did step up today in OT though and played great. Maybe they are getting better. They are young and they need to mature. Maybe they did a little today.

and most people in the media had the Ravens/Steelers as the top two teams in the NFL prior to this week.

And those are still the top two teams. Steelers are 4-1, Ravens are 4-2 after playing the toughest schedule in the NFL. You can make an argument for the Jets as well. Patriots are a slight step down from that tier.

I always wondering why Pats fans are so despised throughout the country. Now I know why.

TempHelpNeeded

10-18-2010, 07:58 AM

pathetic

10-18-2010, 08:02 AM

Are you serious? The Ravens are a solid team, but they're defense is nowhere near making them a SB favorite. Nice way to build your team up though. Where's ricky at? I know he was making a billion excuses about them having "a bunch of young guys and rookies" and the "Pats are playing like shit". I can't wait to see his flip flop on how good they are.

Again, not sure where the obvious SB champs is coming from, but the Ravens took it to them in their house.

Either way, good game, and with all the trash I was talking earlier, I will own up to it and say good game to the victors. Maybe we'll get to do it again in the postseason.

the pats defense is young and everyone knows it. it's a learning process. they could give up 4tds to rivers next week...it's all a process dude, they arent going to get dominant overnight, but there's obvious talent on the D

]I love all the Ravens fans downplaying their team all of a sudden. [/B]What a joke. Can't buy a win against the Patriots in the regular season.

No Ray Lewis? Well we don't have Randy Moss or Kevin Faulk anymore so you played against the most shitty offense in the league and lost. Blolololololololo.

this :lol :lol

idk what's better. pats fans thinking we beat a superbowl favorite or ravens fans shitting on their own team

Beebz

10-18-2010, 08:13 AM

I love all the Ravens fans downplaying their team all of a sudden. What a joke. Can't buy a win against the Patriots in the regular season.

No Ray Lewis? Well we don't have Randy Moss or Kevin Faulk anymore so you played against the most shitty offense in the league and lost. Blolololololololo.

This post is a mess.

Ray Lewis played, genius. Kevin Faulk sucks, and you traded Randy Moss. Hes not injured.

The Pats have the worst offense in the league now?

Pats fan = moron

Beebz

10-18-2010, 08:14 AM

the pats defense is young and everyone knows it. it's a learning process. they could give up 4tds to rivers next week...it's all a process dude, they arent going to get dominant overnight, but there's obvious talent on the D

The Pats do have some talent on D and I think they're going to be pretty good soon. You need to get rid of that cuntbag Merriweather, but otherwise, you're solid.

Thats not why the Pats won though. They won because the Ravens stopped trying to win and played not to lose.

pathetic

10-18-2010, 08:16 AM

The Pats do have some talent on D and I think they're going to be pretty good soon. You need to get rid of that cuntbag Merriweather, but otherwise, you're solid.

Thats not why the Pats won though. They won because the Ravens stopped trying to win and played not to lose.

merriweather's had a few dirty hits in his career...i'm not justifying them, but he's a very solid player that could be a great player

pathetic

10-18-2010, 08:17 AM

They won because the Ravens stopped trying to win and played not to lose.

:lol:loloh ok. thanks for clarifying that....

TempHelpNeeded

10-18-2010, 08:19 AM

I don't think you were catching on to the extreme sarcasm in my post.

Last week Ravens fans were blessing the Ravens as the best team in the league. If they could beat the Pats then they would have beaten the Patriots, Steelers, and Jets. Arguably, three of the leagues best in the AFC. They didn't win. So now it's being downplayed.

Losing Faulk WAS huge, but we made up for it. Trading Moss changed most of the offensive scheme.

Patriots won, Ravens lost. It's only the regular season, but each game means something. We won.

pathetic

10-18-2010, 08:24 AM

pats proved they can hang with/beat anyone in football. i think that's all they wanted to prove yesterday. the team still needs a lot of work, but it def on the right path 2 years into rebuilding this D :thumbsup

DMBstandUP1984

10-18-2010, 08:28 AM

pathetic

10-18-2010, 08:30 AM

really hop off his nuts. 27/44. 61.4 rating, 292 yards, 1TD and 2INTs

I wouldn't call that being "back" and where did he go is an even better question?

1 int was a hail mary at the end of the half. brady was on fire last night, and besides the fact that it took him so long to lead a game winning drive, he played really well and put the ball on target consistently

pathetic

10-18-2010, 08:31 AM

Moss - 9 catches from brady all season...

Branch - 9 catches yesterday.

RJP2741

10-18-2010, 08:33 AM

Brady played well for 2/5 of the game (4th and OT). He looked bad partially because his receivers dropped a lot of balls yesterday, but also because he was making it hard for them to catch the ball. Way too many throws at the feet of receivers. If we're going to win with this style of offense, he has to be more accurate than he was yesterday.

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 08:37 AM

The talk on the radio was fucking awesome this morning.

Some fucking hysterical hi-lights:
"I think the Ravens are still the better team."
"Ray Lewis is the best player of all time."
"New England only won because they were coming off the bye."
"New England only won because they were at home."
"New England only won because the Ravens decided to not play the last quarter."

I love excuses. The Ravens had that game for the first 45 minutes, and then shit the bed because New England started playing/clicking like they should have the first three quarters. If New England had started the game the way they finished, it would have been, like 52 - 10.

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 08:38 AM

really hop off his nuts. 27/44. 61.4 rating, 292 yards, 1TD and 2INTs

I wouldn't call that being "back" and where did he go is an even better question?

The Brady of the 4th quarter was the Brady of the 4th quarter in 2004. I didn't mean his overall performance, I meant his "let's fucking win this shit" way of playing, which is something that is starting to reappear this season.

Brady's rating would have been twice that if the receivers caught what was thrown at them.

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 08:46 AM

really hop off his nuts. 27/44. 61.4 rating, 292 yards, 1TD and 2INTs

I wouldn't call that being "back" and where did he go is an even better question?

1 int was a junk pick and brady played lights out once the offense was able to get in a rhythm.

Crush086

10-18-2010, 08:56 AM

1 int was a hail mary at the end of the half. brady was on fire last night, and besides the fact that it took him so long to lead a game winning drive, he played really well and put the ball on target consistently

1 int was a junk pick and brady played lights out once the offense was able to get in a rhythm.
Serious question here guys. Why do you discredit Brady's second pick? If he had played well enough to get his team into a more manageable spot, he wouldn't have had to throw his desperation hail mary and the pick wouldn't have occurred. Well, may not have occurred, but you get the point.

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 08:58 AM

Because it was just a ball thrown up for grabs. Pretty easy to see why people should classify it as a junk pick.

TempHelpNeeded

10-18-2010, 08:59 AM

Serious question here guys. Why do you discredit Brady's second pick? If he had played well enough to get his team into a more manageable spot, he wouldn't have had to throw his desperation hail mary and the pick wouldn't have occurred. Well, may not have occurred, but you get the point.

You can take a knee and go to the half with no points. Or you can throw a hail mary and get points off a TD or no points off a meaningless INT. Which would you do?

Beebz

10-18-2010, 09:00 AM

merriweather's had a few dirty hits in his career...i'm not justifying them, but he's a very solid player that could be a great player

He has a reputation for being a scumbag. Even in college. He was a risk when the Pats drafted him.

I don't think you were catching on to the extreme sarcasm in my post.

Last week Ravens fans were blessing the Ravens as the best team in the league. If they could beat the Pats then they would have beaten the Patriots, Steelers, and Jets. Arguably, three of the leagues best in the AFC. They didn't win. So now it's being downplayed.

Losing Faulk WAS huge, but we made up for it. Trading Moss changed most of the offensive scheme.

Patriots won, Ravens lost. It's only the regular season, but each game means something. We won.

I don't think Ravens fans were saying they were the best team in the league. I think they were in the conversation, and still are. They have played the toughest schedule in football. They have beat the two other teams in the conversation for NFL's best, and they did it on the road. Their resume is better than anyone else's at this point. Pointing that out isnt downplaying anything.

Not only did I think the pats would win this game, I bet it. They Ravens were not favored, were playing their fourth road game in six tries, had the Pats coming off a bye and were missing their top defensive player. Its only a bad loss because they threw it away.

really hop off his nuts. 27/44. 61.4 rating, 292 yards, 1TD and 2INTs

I wouldn't call that being "back" and where did he go is an even better question?

One pick was a Hail Mary, but he was the second-best QB on the field yesterday, for sure.

1 int was a hail mary at the end of the half. brady was on fire last night, and besides the fact that it took him so long to lead a game winning drive, he played really well and put the ball on target consistently

He was on fire for one quarter in a prevent defense. He put the ball on target consistently? He bounced three or four that I can remember and did terrible under pressure. Brady only started to thrive once the Ravens went to a three-man rush, a decision that cost them the win.

I like Brady and think he's the best QB in the league. But I lost a lot of respect for him yesterday with the whining and bitching he did every time he got touched. Its gone on too long to be an isolated thing.

Brady played well for 2/5 of the game (4th and OT). He looked bad partially because his receivers dropped a lot of balls yesterday, but also because he was making it hard for them to catch the ball. Way too many throws at the feet of receivers. If we're going to win with this style of offense, he has to be more accurate than he was yesterday.

This. He started getting accurate when the Ravens played prevent and brought a three-man rush. Any NFL QB can make throws with five and six seconds to stand in the pocket. That TD to Branch was one of the most embarrassing things Ive ever seen the Ravens do.

The talk on the radio was fucking awesome this morning.

Some fucking hysterical hi-lights:
"I think the Ravens are still the better team."
"Ray Lewis is the best player of all time."
"New England only won because they were coming off the bye."
"New England only won because they were at home."
"New England only won because the Ravens decided to not play the last quarter."

I love excuses. The Ravens had that game for the first 45 minutes, and then shit the bed because New England started playing/clicking like they should have the first three quarters. If New England had started the game the way they finished, it would have been, like 52 - 10.

Bolded is true, although the "decided not to play" thing is phrased wrong. They played conservative, played prevent defense, stopped taking chances, and played not to lose. The Ravens absolutely handed that game over on a platter. It was a failure of coaching.

If, if, if. IF the Ravens had stopped calling check downs and dives they would have won 45-10. They only finished the way they did because the Ravens played prevent defense and stopped pressuring Brady.

Playing at home off a bye with the Ravens' best D player out is a massive advantage.

Beebz

10-18-2010, 09:00 AM

RJP2741

10-18-2010, 09:03 AM

Technically, the Ravens were still the favorite. Home teams usually get 3 or 3.5 just off of home field advantage, this line was 2.5. Just sayin!

RJP2741

10-18-2010, 09:04 AM

Serious question here guys. Why do you discredit Brady's second pick? If he had played well enough to get his team into a more manageable spot, he wouldn't have had to throw his desperation hail mary and the pick wouldn't have occurred. Well, may not have occurred, but you get the point.

Because its Brady and these are Pats fans. Had Flacco thrown that ball its: "Stats are stats."

You guys are seriously trying to argue that Brady's hail mary INT was not junk? Are you retarded?

That's like saying you would rather a basketball player not launch a half-court buzzer beater to win the game because it would hurt is field-goal percentage.

Beebz

10-18-2010, 09:05 AM

Technically, the Ravens were still the favorite. Home teams usually get 3 or 3.5 just off of home field advantage, this line was 2.5. Just sayin!

The Pats were favored. Period. And they won me money.

You guys are seriously trying to argue that Brady's hail mary INT was not junk? Are you retarded?

That's like saying you would rather a basketball player not launch a half-court buzzer beater to win the game because it would hurt is field-goal percentage.

No, in fact I pointed out that one of those two picks was a Hail Mary when the one guy was bashing Brady. I am saying that another QB wouldnt be afford that same luxury.

TempHelpNeeded

10-18-2010, 09:05 AM

Well if the Ravens quit in the fourth quarter then they are last on my list for potential Super Bowl contenders. Teams that do that just don't win.

EDIT - I still think they didn't quit and they are still one of the best teams out there.

Beebz

10-18-2010, 09:06 AM

Well if the Ravens quit in the fourth quarter then they are last on my list for potential Super Bowl contenders. Teams that do that just don't win.

Again, they didn't quit. They just folded up and played not to lose. The coordinators acted like they had the game won.

RJP2741

10-18-2010, 09:07 AM

The Pats were favored. Period. And they won me money.

No, in fact I pointed out that one of those two picks was a Hail Mary when the one guy was bashing Brady. I am saying that another QB wouldnt be afford that same luxury.

Yes they would. Any semi-knowledgeable football fan knows to discredit an interception like that.

Crush086

10-18-2010, 09:08 AM

You can take a knee and go to the half with no points. Or you can throw a hail mary and get points off a TD or no points off a meaningless INT. Which would you do?
Or, you could actually be a quarterback and lead your team down the field, so the hail mary doesn't have to happen.

I understand the logic of why the play was called, but at the same time, it was Brady's poor performance that put them in that situation to begin with.

I just don't see why you'd call it a junk pick when Brady had more than enough time to move the ball.

A junk pick, and this just my opinion of course (and will no doubt be the minority), would be like this: Ravens are up by 3 (number they lead by isn't relevant), and they kick it off with 4 seconds left on the clock. Pats are left with 1 play to win the game, and they throw the hail mary which is picked off.

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 09:08 AM

Second pick "doesn't really count" because
1. He just lobbed it up, Drew Bledsoe style in the hopes that someone on his team would catch it. It's not like he specifically had a target, threw it and it was picked off.
2. It ended regulation time, and didn't really have any effect on the score of the game
3. I don't think the Hail Mary was an act of desperation. If they were truly trying to score or win at that point, they would have had Welker on the sidelines running his white ass off to get the first down and then run out of bounds with a second left. I think the hail mary was just a "hey, I'll launch it, see if you can catch it" thing.

RJP2741

10-18-2010, 09:10 AM

Or, you could actually be a quarterback and lead your team down the field, so the hail mary doesn't have to happen.

I understand the logic of why the play was called, but at the same time, it was Brady's poor performance that put them in that situation to begin with.

I just don't see why you'd call it a junk pick when Brady had more than enough time to move the ball.

A junk pick, and this just my opinion of course (and will no doubt be the minority), would be like this: Ravens are up by 3 (number they lead by isn't relevant), and they kick it off with 4 seconds left on the clock. Pats are left with 1 play to win the game, and they throw the hail mary which is picked off.

I'm pretty sure there was at least one dropped pass on that drive, there may have been more. I don't remember it being Brady's fault that we were on the 48. I could be wrong though.

Either way, the fact that Brady couldn't get the ball down the field will be reflected in his completion percentage, the pick is still junk.

TempHelpNeeded

10-18-2010, 09:11 AM

A stat is a stat, I'll agree. He has two INTs for yesterday. But analyzing Brady's performance you wouldn't say he sucked yadda, yadda, and then point out that specific interception. You look at the whole core work.

pathetic

10-18-2010, 09:12 AM

He has a reputation for being a scumbag. Even in college. He was a risk when the Pats drafted him.

He was on fire for one quarter in a prevent defense. He put the ball on target consistently? He bounced three or four that I can remember and did terrible under pressure. Brady only started to thrive once the Ravens went to a three-man rush, a decision that cost them the win.

Yes, he's always had a bad reputation, but he's still a solid player.

bouncing three or 4 is better than trying to force the ball into a space to get picked. if you've watched brady over his career he tends to throw into spots where only his receivers can go down and get it. he's been doing it for years...it helps when someone like welker get so open that brady doesnt have to do that, but it's nothing new

pathetic

10-18-2010, 09:13 AM

a stat is a stat. w/e it's a cheap pick...if it wouldve been caught it wouldve been a cheap TD :lol either way it's not on brady

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 09:14 AM

DMBstandUP1984

10-18-2010, 09:14 AM

One pick was a Hail Mary, but he was the second-best QB on the field yesterday, for sure.

um on what field?

Matt Cassel, Matt Schaub, Big Ben, Peyton Manning, Kevin Kolb, and Drew Brees all played better yesterday.

Patriots won because the defense stepped up in the second half and OT...if you get two TWO chances to score in OT and don't its just pathetic...Deion Branch looked good.

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 09:15 AM

I'm not trying to say it isn't a pick. Its just justifiable. Who gives a shit 4-1.

dmbmuskie

10-18-2010, 09:16 AM

Steelers vs Pats in the AFC title game. Book it.

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 09:16 AM

um on what field?

Matt Cassel, Matt Schaub, Big Ben, Peyton Manning, Kevin Kolb, and Drew Brees all played better yesterday.

Patriots won because the defense stepped up in the second half and OT...if you get two TWO chances to score in OT and don't its just pathetic...Deion Branch looked good.

Cowboys looked good again.

DMBstandUP1984

10-18-2010, 09:17 AM

I'm not trying to say it isn't a pick. Its just justifiable. Who gives a shit 4-1.

I always thought they should break INTs in two categories. QBs fault and not the QBs fault.

The ones where its a perfect pass and the receiver just can't keep his hands on it should not go against the QB.

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 09:17 AM

Anyone who says Flacco is better than Brady needs to fire their brain captain because he's drunk at the fucking wheel.

Brady in 2009 > Unibrow

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 09:18 AM

I always thought they should break INTs in two categories. QBs fault and not the QBs fault.

The ones where its a perfect pass and the receiver just can't keep his hands on it should not go against the QB.

My friends and I talk about this a lot. Why, if a QB fires it right to a receiver, the receiver juggles it and lose it, and it's picked, is that the QBs fault?

Beebz

10-18-2010, 09:19 AM

Ravens fans are just pissed because they're now eating crow and totally annoyed with the fact that Ray Lewis was a bitch boy that couldn't do shit yesterday. "The Ravens played conservative in the fourth quarter, because they were hoping to take it up the ass".

Give it up. The Patriots stepped up in the 4th quarter and played the way they should have the whole game.

Your embarrassing yourself more than usual, and that's hard to do. Stop.

a stat is a stat. w/e it's a cheap pick...if it wouldve been caught it wouldve been a cheap TD :lol either way it's not on brady

Eh, that's a good point.

um on what field?

Matt Cassel, Matt Schaub, Big Ben, Peyton Manning, Kevin Kolb, and Drew Brees all played better yesterday.

Patriots won because the defense stepped up in the second half and OT...if you get two TWO chances to score in OT and don't its just pathetic...Deion Branch looked good.

On the field Baltimore and New England played on. Are you serious? I didnt say the entire NFL. :lol

The defense didn't do anything different than it did the entire rest of the game when it was getting dominated up and down the field. Baltimore changed its playcalling and that allowed the pats to come back.

DMBstandUP1984

10-18-2010, 09:19 AM

Cowboys looked good again.

meh cowboys got some issues. I've never seen a team with 3 well 4 big time receivers, a talented QB, good running game and a good defense play like this.

First off it seems like they have a 10yard plus penalty every other snap..and please fire Wade Phillips

Beebz

10-18-2010, 09:19 AM

Anyone who says Flacco is better than Brady needs to fire their brain captain because he's drunk at the fucking wheel.

Brady in 2009 > Unibrow

Flacco was better yesterday.

DMBstandUP1984

10-18-2010, 09:20 AM

Your embarrassing yourself more than usual, and that's hard to do. Stop.

Eh, that's a good point.

On the field Baltimore and New England played on. Are you serious? I didnt say the entire NFL. :lol

The defense didn't do anything different than it did the entire rest of the game when it was getting dominated up and down the field. Baltimore changed its playcalling and that allowed the pats to come back.

I thought it was a blanket NFL statement. When it comes to Brady and Pats fans you just have to assume they d-ride him enough to believe that.

Crush086

10-18-2010, 09:21 AM

TempHelpNeeded

10-18-2010, 09:22 AM

Ok Tony Romo's Cowboys. I'm sure they aren't d-riding. :lol

Beebz

10-18-2010, 09:23 AM

Im putting this in here because I watched the Merriweather hit and didnt see the others:

So many thoughts. One: It's time to start ejecting and suspending players for flagrant hits, which I thought the Meriweather one was, and perhaps also the shot of Harrison on Massaquoi. Two: the league had better train its officials better considering there was no penalty on the Harrison hit on Massaquoi. The league had as a point of emphasis to officials this year that launching into a defenseless receiver would be a penalty and subject to discipline. So emphasize it.
Three: Eighteen games? Are you serious? Tell the six Eagles who've suffered concussions this year -- we're six weeks into the season -- that adding two games is no big hazard to your health. Right. And four: Don't tell me this is the culture we want. It might be the culture kids are used to in video games, but the NFL has to draw a line in the sand right here, right now, and insist that the forearm shivers and leading with the helmet and launching into unprotected receivers will be dealt with severely. Six-figure fines. Suspensions. Ejections.
I will hand it to Rodney Harrison. In the year-and-a-half I've worked with him, he's become more thoughtful about the game than I remember from his playing days, when his life was a seek-and-destroy mission. And Sunday, after watching a day of the viciousness, he laid it on the line on our Football Night in America show.
"You didn't get my attention when you fined me five grand, 10 grand, 15 grand,'' Harrison said. "You got my attention when I got suspended ... You have to suspend these guys. These guys are making millions of dollars. The NFL [has to say], 'We're going to really protect our players. We're going to suspend these guys, not one game, but possibly two or more games.' ''

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/10/17/mmqb/index.html?eref=sihp#ixzz12iTpKfHT

Absolutely.

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 09:23 AM

Flacco was better yesterday.

Good job joe??

pathetic

10-18-2010, 09:24 AM

Flacco was better yesterday.

:lol :lol if he executed a 2 min drive he would have been. throwing screens is about all he did yesterday. he threw a couple nice balls on 3rd down to the sideline, but i wasnt impressed about what he did to NE's defense. Sanchez looked a lot better imo

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 09:24 AM

Flacco was better yesterday.

Then you need to say that. Brady is the MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH (**breath**) MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH (**breath**) MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH better QB, regardless of individual week stats.

I'm actually not mad at all. I guess I don't take football as seriously as others, but please, let's not make these sweeping generalizations.

Sorry, I should have specified. The AVERAGE Ravens fan that I have talked to/heard today is pissed off. I didn't mean the ones in here. :) I was speaking COMPLETELY in general terms, not antsmarching terms. My bad. :)

TempHelpNeeded

10-18-2010, 09:25 AM

Rodney Harrison is a smart guy.

With that said, I was happy with all of his hits. :D

RJP2741

10-18-2010, 09:25 AM

The Pats won and Brady was totally mediocre. Isn't that worse for Ravens fans? I'm not sure why you're arguing that Brady wasn't great, because the worse he played, the worse of a loss it is for the Ravens.

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 09:25 AM

They should just eject players that make hits like that right on the spot.

pathetic

10-18-2010, 09:26 AM

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 09:26 AM

Im putting this in here because I watched the Merriweather hit and didnt see the others:

Absolutely.
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Merriweather needs to tone it down.

Though, I find it funny that when Merriweather fucks up someone, he's a bad person (though, the guy is a frigging idiot and needs to be fined for this and lay off the damn roids), Ravens fans are quick to forget when Ray Lewis actually came out and said he's not sorry for the helmet-to-helmet hit he put on Ocho Cinco last year, and that he'd do it again.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/11/05/ray-lewis-not-sorry-for-hits-that-got-him-fined/

Yeah, Pot? Hi this is the kettle. You're fucking black.

TempHelpNeeded

10-18-2010, 09:27 AM

i think merriweather should be fined and suspended by the league for a single game, then benched by BB for the 1st half of the next game he'd be eligible to play in. obviously it's a pattern that merriweather isnt getting away from. he's a solid player and belongs on the pats though

I think that's worthy. Though sad that a man can drive drunk and have the chance of killing someone and only sit out a first quarter.

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 09:27 AM

DMBstandUP1984

10-18-2010, 09:27 AM

i think merriweather should be fined and suspended by the league for a single game, then benched by BB for the 1st half of the next game he'd be eligible to play in. obviously it's a pattern that merriweather isnt getting away from. he's a solid player and belongs on the pats though

I was trying to read BB lips when Merriweather was pleading his case to Bill..and it looked like Bill told him to fuck off..if he did :thumbsup

dmbmuskie

10-18-2010, 09:27 AM

Im putting this in here because I watched the Merriweather hit and didnt see the others:

Absolutely.
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This sounds barbaric, but these guys know what they're getting into when they put the helmet on. The Merriweather hit was bad, but your job is to stop someone from catching the ball by knocking the shit out of them.

Harrisson said something really profound yesterday after the game, where he KO'd two Browns. To paraphrase, I'm not trying to injure anyone, but I'm not opposed to hurting anyone.

pathetic

10-18-2010, 09:28 AM

did you jackson get laid out in the eagles game? clean hit and he got a concussion.

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 09:29 AM

I don't think anyone tries to hurt anyone else, but it's just instinct to lead with your head when you're pile-driving someone. Doesn't make it right or less dangerous, but I don't think guys intentionally try to maim someone else.

Just ask all my ex boyfriends. Hello!

DMBstandUP1984

10-18-2010, 09:29 AM

This sounds barbaric, but these guys know what they're getting into when they put the helmet on. The Merriweather hit was bad, but your job is to stop someone from catching the ball by knocking the shit out of them.

right..but the ball was already pass the receiver and Mayo was already laying a hit on him...what if Merriweather missed Heap and took out Mayo instead? Anything could have happened

RJP2741

10-18-2010, 09:30 AM

I was trying to read BB lips when Merriweather was pleading his case to Bill..and it looked like Bill told him to fuck off..if he did :thumbsup

98.5 said that too. I'm pretty sure that's what he said. Bill didn't even want to hear an excuse, probably because there wasn't one.

RJP2741

10-18-2010, 09:30 AM

right..but the ball was already pass the receiver and Mayo was already laying a hit on him...what if Merriweather missed Heap and took out Mayo instead? Anything could have happened

Well the worst part was that if he just went for the ball instead of a cheap shot, he may have come away with an interception. Instead he got benched, fined, and maybe suspended.

thebestauntie

10-18-2010, 09:31 AM

They should just eject players that make hits like that right on the spot.
I agree with this. I think it's the only way it's going to have an impact.

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 09:32 AM

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 09:32 AM

what are they saying on baltimore radio about the ravens not going for it on 4th and a half a yard??? :lol

RJP2741

10-18-2010, 09:33 AM

That's a good call, football is the only sport where you don't actually ever get thrown out. And it seems like at times it is the sport where that would be most warranted.

Beebz

10-18-2010, 09:34 AM

:lol :lol if he executed a 2 min drive he would have been. throwing screens is about all he did yesterday. he threw a couple nice balls on 3rd down to the sideline, but i wasnt impressed about what he did to NE's defense. Sanchez looked a lot better imo

Yeah, all he did was throw screens:

(13:38) (Shotgun) 5-J.Flacco pass short left to 84-T.Houshmandzadeh to BLT 26 for 15 yards (99-M.Wright, 91-M.Pryor).

(11:45) 5-J.Flacco pass short middle to 81-A.Boldin to NE 45 for 15 yards (25-P.Chung, 51-J.Mayo) [50-R.Ninkovich].

(8:34) (Shotgun) 5-J.Flacco pass short right to 86-T.Heap pushed ob at NE 16 for 17 yards (59-G.Guyton, 31-B.Meriweather). Penalty on NE-96-J.Cunningham, Encroachment, declined.

(12:46) 5-J.Flacco pass incomplete short right to 85-D.Mason. Baltimore challenged the incomplete pass ruling, and the play was REVERSED. 5-J.Flacco pass short right to 85-D.Mason ran ob at NE 15 for 13 yards.

(11:53) 5-J.Flacco pass short middle to 86-T.Heap for 16 yards, TOUCHDOWN.(10:28) 5-J.Flacco pass deep left to 81-A.Boldin for 25 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Penalty on NE-27-K.Arrington, Defensive Pass Interference, declined.
(6:01) 5-J.Flacco pass deep left to 85-D.Mason to BLT 31 for 16 yards (27-K.Arrington).

(4:46) 5-J.Flacco pass short middle to 86-T.Heap to 50 for 16 yards (25-P.Chung, 51-J.Mayo)

(2:49) (Shotgun) 5-J.Flacco pass deep right to 85-D.Mason to NE 26 for 18 yards (31-B.Meriweather)

(11:02) 5-J.Flacco pass deep middle to 81-A.Boldin to BLT 38 for 18 yards (51-J.Mayo).

(10:17) 5-J.Flacco pass short left to 85-D.Mason to BLT 48 for 20 yards (31-B.Meriweather, 27-K.Arrington). I want to take you seriously, and then you make posts like these.

The Pats won and Brady was totally mediocre. Isn't that worse for Ravens fans? I'm not sure why you're arguing that Brady wasn't great, because the worse he played, the worse of a loss it is for the Ravens.

It doesnt matter how Brady played. For Ravens fans, the reason this stings is because they had the game in total control and handed it to the Patriots through poor coaching.

Its one thing to lose. I expected them to lose. Its another to have the game won and throw in the towel before its over. That's why its a killer loss.

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 09:35 AM

what are they saying on baltimore radio about the ravens not going for it on 4th and a half a yard??? :lol

That actually wasn't mentioned at all this morning. All I heard coming into work is "Baltimore is still the best team in the NFL" and a bunch of pussy excuses. They aren't really discussing the game much, but focusing on how Baltimore didn't just come off a bye, they are tired, worn down, blah blah blah. Funny, they weren't saying that shit on Friday.

Oh, but on commercial breaks, they are putting the audio in about when the big birds were doing well. :lol

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 09:36 AM

Yeah, all he did was throw screens:

I want to take you seriously, and then you make posts like these.

It doesnt matter how Brady played. For Ravens fans, the reason this stings is because they had the game in total control and handed it to the Patriots through poor coaching.

Its one thing to lose. I expected them to lose. Its another to have the game won and throw in the towel before its over. That's why its a killer loss.

Bullshit on this one.

dmbmuskie

10-18-2010, 09:37 AM

right..but the ball was already pass the receiver and Mayo was already laying a hit on him...what if Merriweather missed Heap and took out Mayo instead? Anything could have happened

Friendly fire happens all the time.

If you are bearing down on someone you don't always know if they have the ball or not, and your job is to stop them from catching the ball. Initially, I was very turned off by the hit, but when I watched it again I saw 3 guys coming together in a split second. You can't always make a clean hit in that situation.

pathetic

10-18-2010, 09:37 AM

Yeah, all he did was throw screens:

screens, short passes. the balls he threw to heap up the middle were slants or quick throws that had 5-10 yards of running afterwards. like i said, he did have a few nice balls on 3rd down to mason and heap to the outside, but he wasnt good enough to win the game.

Sanchez beat the pats Defense and Flacco couldnt. says a lot about how they've grown since week 2, but flacco wasnt too impressive yesterday

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10-18-2010, 09:39 AM

RJP2741

10-18-2010, 09:40 AM

Flacco played a better game yesterday than Brady. Brady has to play like he did in the 4th/OT for a majority of the game if the Pats want to do anything this year.

Beebz

10-18-2010, 09:40 AM

what are they saying on baltimore radio about the ravens not going for it on 4th and a half a yard??? :lol

That decision, plus Mason's dropped TD, are the two really killer mistakes. Mason hangs onto that ball and its 24-10. They pick up 12 inches there on fourth down and they probably win the game. They punted at the Pats were back at that spot in two plays. Everyone at home knew giving the ball back to Brady with Mattison playing prevent defense was going to kill them, and they were right.

Im not one of those people who thinks fans are more knowledgeable than coaches, and I think by and large their opinions should be discounted because they're not on the field and their jobs aren't at stake if a call backfires. But punting on fourth and a foot from the 50 is a giant pussy move and one that a high school coach wouldn't make.

This sounds barbaric, but these guys know what they're getting into when they put the helmet on. The Merriweather hit was bad, but your job is to stop someone from catching the ball by knocking the shit out of them.

Harrisson said something really profound yesterday after the game, where he KO'd two Browns. To paraphrase, I'm not trying to injure anyone, but I'm not opposed to hurting anyone.

Bullshit. They're not out there to be paralyzed because some dumbass retard from Miami can't cover well enough to be in position to make a play.

They should just eject players that make hits like that right on the spot.

This.

i think merriweather should be fined and suspended by the league for a single game, then benched by BB for the 1st half of the next game he'd be eligible to play in. obviously it's a pattern that merriweather isnt getting away from. he's a solid player and belongs on the pats though

Agree with everything but the "belonging on the Pats" part. If he wasnt talented you'd want him gone.

right..but the ball was already pass the receiver and Mayo was already laying a hit on him...what if Merriweather missed Heap and took out Mayo instead? Anything could have happened

Is it somehow worse if he had laid out Mayo? Isnt a dirty hit a dirty hit?

pathetic

10-18-2010, 09:40 AM

No offense, but a lot of those stats say "short middle" and "short right". That usually indicates a short or screen pass and then YAC.

this.

not saying brady doesnt get that with welker, but it was a lot of flacco's throws yesterday. mason was doing work though

dmbmuskie

10-18-2010, 09:40 AM

That's a good call, football is the only sport where you don't actually ever get thrown out. And it seems like at times it is the sport where that would be most warranted.

It's easy to say that until your team gets F'd because of a blown call. In the Pens game Friday night the Pens best defenseman got tossed for a 100% clean hit. Sure, the Pens won and the NHL took the the penalty of his record, but that won't be the last time this year someone gets run for a bullshit blow to the head.

I think the best option, if they are going to ban people for hits like this, is a review board that looks at film after the game.

pathetic

10-18-2010, 09:41 AM

Agree with everything but the "belonging on the Pats" part. If he wasnt talented you'd want him gone.

:lol obviously he's a solid player. if he wasnt i'd want him gone for being a shitty player not a dirty one

RJP2741

10-18-2010, 09:42 AM

Beebz

10-18-2010, 09:43 AM

No offense, but a lot of those stats say "short middle" and "short right". That usually indicates a short or screen pass and then YAC.

No it doesnt. Did you watch the game? These were all bullets to the sideline or over the middle where the wideout either went down on went OOB. Other than a Heap run over the middle I cant think of a single 12-15 yard pass that had a single YAC.

Bullshit on this one.

The money I won and the correct pick in my pick em league suggest otherwise.

screens, short passes. the balls he threw to heap up the middle were slants or quick throws that had 5-10 yards of running afterwards. like i said, he did have a few nice balls on 3rd down to mason and heap to the outside, but he wasnt good enough to win the game.

Sanchez beat the pats Defense and Flacco couldnt. says a lot about how they've grown since week 2, but flacco wasnt too impressive yesterday

Still wrong.

Flacco did better than Sanchez. They didnt lose because of Flacco. They lost because of coaching.

thebestauntie

10-18-2010, 09:43 AM

Agree with everything but the "belonging on the Pats" part. If he wasnt talented you'd want him gone.

Well no duh, if he wasn't talented no one would want him on their team.

pathetic

10-18-2010, 09:45 AM

Flacco did better than Sanchez. They didnt lose because of Flacco. They lost because of coaching.

last i checked flacco had multiple times to get into FG range at the end of the game...failed everytime.

that loss was not on the coaching. pats overcame a 10point 4th quarter deficit and the ravens couldnt do anything against the pats D late in the 4th and in OT.

the game could have very well ended in regulation if the pats attempted a Fg...couldve saved flacco the embarrassment of choking in OT

thebestauntie

10-18-2010, 09:45 AM

Random funny lulz:
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Best site ever:
http://lolpats.tumblr.com/

Edit:
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lahlqguAJk1qclcbeo1_400.jpg
:lol :lol :lol
I love this one:

http://lolpats.tumblr.com/post/1295898933/ta-da-guess-hooz-back

:lol:lol

Beebz

10-18-2010, 09:45 AM

It's easy to say that until your team gets F'd because of a blown call. In the Pens game Friday night the Pens best defenseman got tossed for a 100% clean hit. Sure, the Pens won and the NHL took the the penalty of his record, but that won't be the last time this year someone gets run for a bullshit blow to the head.

I think the best option, if they are going to ban people for hits like this, is a review board that looks at film after the game.

No, because the player can make a dirty hit and stay in the game. Merriweather threw that hit and got all of a 15-yard penalty. An Oher holding call and another FS wiped out the entire penalty two plays later. The Patriots essentially had no consequence for that hit (although you can say its the ravens' fault for getting the penalties later).

Review it during the game if you have to, but waiting until its over is unacceptable.

dmbmuskie

10-18-2010, 09:46 AM

I can see that side too, but that's what replay is for. It's already so integrated into the NFL that why couldn't they review helmet-to-helmet hits to determine an ejection?

I think it's even harder to do in the NFL, because you have so many multiperson collisions. You can be aiming to put your shoulder in someone's chest, and then a split second later your are delivering a kill shot to their temple, because someone else hit them.

Beebz

10-18-2010, 09:47 AM

last i checked flacco had multiple times to get into FG range at the end of the game...failed everytime.

that loss was not on the coaching. pats overcame a 10point 4th quarter deficit and the ravens couldnt do anything against the pats D late in the 4th and in OT.

the game could have very well ended in regulation if the pats attempted a Fg...couldve saved flacco the embarrassment of choking in OT

He had multiple times to throw checkdowns to the running back because thats what Cameron called.

This isnt debatable. The Ravens lost because of their coaching. They didn't try to do anything against the Pats D. That was the entire problem. When they did they shredded them. When they stopped they lost. Very simple.

And its not just on Cameron. Mattison deserves scorn for his prevent defense and three-man rush, and Harbaugh for not overriding his coordinators and punting on fourth and a foot.

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 09:48 AM

No, because the player can make a dirty hit and stay in the game. Merriweather threw that hit and got all of a 15-yard penalty. An Oher holding call and another FS wiped out the entire penalty two plays later. The Patriots essentially had no consequence for that hit (although you can say its the ravens' fault for getting the penalties later).

Review it during the game if you have to, but waiting until its over is unacceptable.

So let me get this straight. Merriweather should have been launched from the game just because he plays for NE and made a dirty hit, even though it was the right penalty to call? I don't hear you bitching when Ray Lewis almost takes a guy's head off (read: Murders someone, gets a plea bargain and serves no time in jail) and isn't apologetic.....

pathetic

10-18-2010, 09:49 AM

RJP2741

10-18-2010, 09:49 AM

I think it's even harder to do in the NFL, because you have so many multiperson collisions. You can be aiming to put your shoulder in someone's chest, and then a split second later your are delivering a kill shot to their temple, because someone else hit them.

True. It just seems like if any sport needs an ejection rule, it would be football. And it's the only sport without one. There are enough intelligent people in the NFL to be able to come up with some sort of provision to prevent or curtail those kind of hits.

TempHelpNeeded

10-18-2010, 09:49 AM

No it doesnt. Did you watch the game? These were all bullets to the sideline or over the middle where the wideout either went down on went OOB. Other than a Heap run over the middle I cant think of a single 12-15 yard pass that had a single YAC.

I didn't watch it. :lol I was working.

I was merely going by what you had posted. Normally the terminology used in the play-by-play that you posted indicates short passes or screen passes. If there is a large yardage on the play, then usually that yardage is due to YAC. That is all.

Beebz

10-18-2010, 09:50 AM

Take this for what its worth:

1. Pittsburgh (4-1). There were some rough moments, and Roethlisberger threw a very poor early interception, but the way he spread it around (TD throws to Mike Wallace, Heath Miller and Hines Ward) and kept the running game going are great long-term signs for the Steelers.

2. Baltimore (4-2). The Ravens have played six games, four on the road. Road results: Lost to 2-3 Cincinnati and 4-1 New England, both games either team could have won. Won at the Steelers and Jets by a total of four points. Most teams won't play four tougher road games in a full season, and the Ravens have played them by the middle of October.

3. New York Jets (5-1). Big road win at Denver, with some luck coming from a long pass-interference call on the Broncos in the final two minutes. What I like is how Mark Sanchez came back from his first two interceptions of the year to make enough plays to win at the end.

4. New England (4-1). This is the team getting jobbed at the top after the best win a team had all day Sunday. The reason I've got New England fourth instead of second is because of how I've always tried to do these rankings: If New England played Baltimore on a neutral field in Wichita tomorrow, I like the Ravens. Same with the Jets. For now.

Crush086

10-18-2010, 09:51 AM

Sanchez beat the pats Defense and Flacco couldnt. says a lot about how they've grown since week 2, but flacco wasnt too impressive yesterday
Come on now, you have to give Flacco some credit. He was like 20/24 or something yesterday at one point. He put up solid numbers, the Ravens just faltered at the end.

And anything can happen in one game. Not the greatest way to judge how players have grown, considering the only chance there may be for redemption for the Ravens would have to be in the postseason.

bianca posted it in the Flacco thread, but he's put up like 1000 yards and only 1 pick and 6 TDs since the Bengals debacle. I'd say that's a better stat for judging someone growing as a player than one game against one team.

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 09:51 AM

Anyone have Brady's second half stats handy?

RJP2741

10-18-2010, 09:51 AM

blame it on whoever you want. Great D by the pats late in the game forced the ravens to throw check downs and try and run the ball. i'm very impressed by the way the pats stepped up.

now, they need to do the same thing against a good chargers offense

I was impressed too. When they play with a kind of recklessness they are a better defense (first half of the first game, 2nd half and OT yesterday) but it seems like a majority of the time the defense plays hesitant.

Beebz

10-18-2010, 09:51 AM

So let me get this straight. Merriweather should have been launched from the game just because he plays for NE and made a dirty hit, even though it was the right penalty to call? I don't hear you bitching when Ray Lewis almost takes a guy's head off (read: Murders someone, gets a plea bargain and serves no time in jail) and isn't apologetic.....

What? When Ray Lewis gets a flag for a dirty hit then talk. I wont defend it. Your safety is a piece of shit who should get back on the corner where he belongs.

dmbmuskie

10-18-2010, 09:51 AM

So let me get this straight. Merriweather should have been launched from the game just because he plays for NE and made a dirty hit, even though it was the right penalty to call? I don't hear you bitching when Ray Lewis almost takes a guy's head off (read: Murders someone, gets a plea bargain and serves no time in jail) and isn't apologetic.....

Make no mistkae, if Ed Reed KO'd Hernandez it would have been celebrated in Baltimore all week. The Steelers and Ravens are the two "dirtiest" teams in football. I'm glad the Steelers own up to it.

TempHelpNeeded

10-18-2010, 09:52 AM

Power Rankings = Females Arguing about Shoes

dmbmuskie

10-18-2010, 09:53 AM

Power Rankings = Females Arguing about Shoes

:thumbsup:thumbsup

TempHelpNeeded

10-18-2010, 09:54 AM

This is how I put it.

The game had two ways of playing out. Either it was going to be last year's playoff game all over again or it was going to be a hard fought battle back and forth with either team having a chance to win. It ended up being the latter. You can spin the win or the lose either way you want to, but one thing lead to another and the Patriots won. Maybe someone gave up? Maybe someone had shitty coaching? Maybe someone just got lucky?

A win is a win in the NFL and the Patriots won. You can chalk up any excuse you want, but the point of each game is to win.

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 09:54 AM

Take this for what its worth:

:lol :lol

dmbmuskie

10-18-2010, 09:55 AM

What? When Ray Lewis gets a flag for a dirty hit then talk. I wont defend it. Your safety is a piece of shit who should get back on the corner where he belongs.

I've seen the Ravens try to hurt people, and when they get flagged for it you guys act like it's a crime against humanity and bitch and moan about how the refs are out to get you. I've never heard anyone say that "Ray shouldn't have tried to knock the defenseless player's head off".

DMBstandUP1984

10-18-2010, 09:56 AM

speaking of the ravens

Ravens would have interest in Shawne Merriman w/2 big ifs--if he passes physical in next 24 hours, and if it's a relatively low-money deal.- Peter King (SI)

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 10:04 AM

Of course they are interested, he's another roided-out probable criminal.

pathetic

10-18-2010, 10:04 AM

speaking of the ravens

Ravens would have interest in Shawne Merriman w/2 big ifs--if he passes physical in next 24 hours, and if it's a relatively low-money deal.- Peter King (SI)

for a trade? cuz if he went on waivers, i heard the 49ers are interested and would most likely get him first

Beebz

10-18-2010, 10:04 AM

I've seen the Ravens try to hurt people, and when they get flagged for it you guys act like it's a crime against humanity and bitch and moan about how the refs are out to get you. I've never heard anyone say that "Ray shouldn't have tried to knock the defenseless player's head off".

Thae Ravens play tough football. If they lead with their helmet I will always support a flag (as long as the replay confirms the call was correct). There is a difference between a hard hit and a dirty one. The Ravens and Steelers are very good at the hard-not-dirty types (although Harrison's hit yesterday should have merited an ejection from what everyone has written).

speaking of the ravens

Ravens would have interest in Shawne Merriman w/2 big ifs--if he passes physical in next 24 hours, and if it's a relatively low-money deal.- Peter King (SI)

Merriman wants to go to the Ravens badly, but I dont know if I want him.

Speaking of, is there anyone who has fallen faster than Merriman? This guy was talked about as the best defensive player in the NFL as recently as three years ago. Now he's a bust.

TempHelpNeeded

10-18-2010, 10:05 AM

speaking of the ravens

Ravens would have interest in Shawne Merriman w/2 big ifs--if he passes physical in next 24 hours, and if it's a relatively low-money deal.- Peter King (SI)

Wish I could find my Vrabel picture of him doing Merriman's dance.

EDIT - Troy Brown. :lol

http://angryhosting.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/dd/ddf54ddac1e186f6c4e4d5fda9cc427822aaf116.jpg

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 10:05 AM

What? When Ray Lewis gets a flag for a dirty hit then talk. I wont defend it. Your safety is a piece of shit who should get back on the corner where he belongs.

I linked an article from last year about him saying that he (Lewis) led with his helmet, got fined, wasn't sorry about it, and would do it again. What say you about that?

Make no mistkae, if Ed Reed KO'd Hernandez it would have been celebrated in Baltimore all week. The Steelers and Ravens are the two "dirtiest" teams in football. I'm glad the Steelers own up to it.

:thumbsup I'll admit that Merriweather is a total goon and needs more than a 25k fine for what he did; something that really stings. I just don't appreciate Baltimore fans talking about how horrible of a person Merriweather is, when they have four of the most fucking dirty defensive players in the league. But, they aren't dirty on Baltimore, they are "intense".

pathetic

10-18-2010, 10:06 AM

Merriman wants to go to the Ravens badly, but I dont know if I want him.

Speaking of, is there anyone who has fallen faster than Merriman? This guy was talked about as the best defensive player in the NFL as recently as three years ago. Now he's a bust.

Shaun Alexander went downhill pretty fast.

Merriman went downhill after the injuries and PED suspension. i dont feel bad for him

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 10:06 AM

Brady on eei "they talk a lot for a team that has beat us once in the past 9 years"

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 10:07 AM

Thae Ravens play tough football. If they lead with their helmet I will always support a flag (as long as the replay confirms the call was correct). There is a difference between a hard hit and a dirty one. The Ravens and Steelers are very good at the hard-not-dirty types (although Harrison's hit yesterday should have merited an ejection from what everyone has written).

Merriman wants to go to the Ravens badly, but I dont know if I want him.

Speaking of, is there anyone who has fallen faster than Merriman? This guy was talked about as the best defensive player in the NFL as recently as three years ago. Now he's a bust.
With the bolded, I've decided. You're on drugs.

And again, BULLSHIT, you'd fucking cream your huggies if Merriman went to Baltimore. At least admit it.

pathetic

10-18-2010, 10:08 AM

Brady on eei "they talk a lot for a team that has beat us once in the past 9 years"

:lol :lol

he talks alot for a qb thats only won 3 sb's and a league mvp...

dmbmuskie

10-18-2010, 10:08 AM

thebestauntie

10-18-2010, 10:08 AM

Brady on eei "they talk a lot for a team that has beat us once in the past 9 years"
That may be my new sig. :thumbsup :lol

Man I wish I had remembered to DVR the game. :shrug

RJP2741

10-18-2010, 10:09 AM

Brady on eei "they talk a lot for a team that has beat us once in the past 9 years"

:lol:lol:lol Awesome quote.

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 10:11 AM

I didn't think either Harrisson hit was that bad. The hit on Massaqoi was what happense when a 200lbs player runs into a 250lbs brick wall, and the Cribbs hit happens on every play. Robinson's hit on Jackson was the worst of the day, IMO.

That one was just horrible because not only was it a bad hit, it was HARDCORE and Jackson was completely blind-sided. Whuff.

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 10:14 AM

:lol :lol

he talks alot for a qb thats only won 3 sb's and a league mvp...

According to peter king he is the front runner right now for league mvp. I'm not sure where his mvp rankings are. Maybe someone can find them.

thebestauntie

10-18-2010, 10:16 AM

Jesse are you going to be without a vehicle this Sunday?

Beebz

10-18-2010, 10:19 AM

Shaun Alexander went downhill pretty fast.

Merriman went downhill after the injuries and PED suspension. i dont feel bad for him

Alexander was an RB pushing 30 when he dropped. But yeah that's probably the only one that comes to mind.

I dont feel bad for him either.

Brady on eei "they talk a lot for a team that has beat us once in the past 9 years"

That once knocked their soft asses out of the playoffs at home. Felt good.

With the bolded, I've decided. You're on drugs.

And again, BULLSHIT, you'd fucking cream your huggies if Merriman went to Baltimore. At least admit it.

You should read the post where I said Im not sure I want Merriman. He's also not a criminal.

I didn't think either Harrisson hit was that bad. The hit on Massaqoi was what happense when a 200lbs player runs into a 250lbs brick wall, and the Cribbs hit happens on every play. Robinson's hit on Jackson was the worst of the day, IMO.

It was a dirty hit. Robinson's hit was clean just fast. They should have reviewed that and picked up the flag.

UR calls should be challengable because they happen so fast.

pathetic

10-18-2010, 10:20 AM

According to peter king he is the front runner right now for league mvp. I'm not sure where his mvp rankings are. Maybe someone can find them.

missing a week because of the bye

but 4th in TDs, 4th in Passer Rating, 15th in passing yards

pathetic

10-18-2010, 10:22 AM

Jesse are you going to be without a vehicle this Sunday?

i hope not. i was hoping to buy something over the weekend...that's the same plan for this weekend..

thebestauntie

10-18-2010, 10:24 AM

i hope not. i was hoping to buy something over the weekend...that's the same plan for this weekend..
Well the invite is still open for coming over to watch the Pats/Chargers game. And I will have cupcakes. ;)

pathetic

10-18-2010, 10:24 AM

Well the invite is still open for coming over to watch the Pats/Chargers game. And I will have cupcakes. ;)

know anyone selling a car?

Beebz

10-18-2010, 10:25 AM

missing a week because of the bye

but 4th in TDs, 4th in Passer Rating, 15th in passing yards

Brady for MVP isnt crazy at all. Id give it to Brees right now, but only by a thin margin.

thebestauntie

10-18-2010, 10:25 AM

know anyone selling a car?
Not that I can think of. :shrug

pathetic

10-18-2010, 10:32 AM

last time the pats held a team under 3 yards a carry (over 30 carries per game) was 2005.

get sum, Ray Rice

cry_minarets458

10-18-2010, 10:36 AM

Beebz

10-18-2010, 10:40 AM

I think the whole Suggs/Brady trash talk thing is funny. Suggs had a completely clean hit on Brady as he was releasing the ball, and Brady was motioning that he wanted a flag as soon as he hit the ground. Then they got up shit-talking ensued (not sure who initiated it). Then, Suggs said something after the game. Then, Brady says something on the radio. Jeepers, just leave it on the field guys. :lol

I lose respect for Brady every time he opens he mouth. He cried like a bitch on the Suggs hit and slammed the ground and screaming for a flag when Ngata broke him in half. Sac up, take your tampon out, and play football.

He's a great QB but has none of the toughness and character that he used to. I never thought I see the day where Peyton Manning was tougher than Tom Brady.

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 10:41 AM

Brady said today the hit was clean. He was just fired up. He wasn't looking for a flag at all.

thebestauntie

10-18-2010, 10:41 AM

I lose respect for Brady every time he opens he mouth. He cried like a bitch on the Suggs hit and slammed the ground and screaming for a flag when Ngata broke him in half. Sac up, take your tampon out, and play football.

He's a great QB but has none of the toughness and character that he used to. I never thought I see the day where Peyton Manning was tougher than Tom Brady.
Getting a season ending injury in the first game of a season will do that to a QB.

cry_minarets458

10-18-2010, 10:42 AM

See, I wasn't commenting on Brady or anything, just commenting moreso on the whole thing trash talk thing which is a little ridiculous.

dmbmuskie

10-18-2010, 10:42 AM

I lose respect for Brady every time he opens he mouth. He cried like a bitch on the Suggs hit and slammed the ground and screaming for a flag when Ngata broke him in half. Sac up, take your tampon out, and play football.

He's a great QB but has none of the toughness and character that he used to. I never thought I see the day where Peyton Manning was tougher than Tom Brady.

Just because he has awful hair doesn't make him any less tough.

cry_minarets458

10-18-2010, 10:43 AM

Brady said today the hit was clean. He was just fired up. He wasn't looking for a flag at all.
At the moment, he was. I was watching the game and was like oh my lanta. I mean with how common place flags have been in that situation, I would have tried for one, too.

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 10:44 AM

I think the whole Suggs/Brady trash talk thing is funny. Suggs had a completely clean hit on Brady as he was releasing the ball, and Brady was motioning that he wanted a flag as soon as he hit the ground. Then they got up shit-talking ensued (not sure who initiated it). Then, Suggs said something after the game. Then, Brady says something on the radio. Jeepers, just leave it on the field guys. :lol

:lol looks like someone should hand them both Midol.

Brady needs to knock off the shit with trying to get a flag for being sacked. Sure, I'd love for the other team to get a flag, but dude, yell at your POS offensive line, not Suggs. Fire Matt Light!!!

Beebz

10-18-2010, 10:44 AM

Brady said today the hit was clean. He was just fired up. He wasn't looking for a flag at all.

He was pounding the ground looking/screaming at the refs throwing his hand up and down imitating throwing a flag. But no, Im sure he didnt want the 15 yards.

:lol:lol:lol

Getting a season ending injury in the first game of a season will do that to a QB.

Then dont come back. If you dont want to risk getting injured dont play NFL football. If you choose to do that, you do it with the understanding that injuries and hits are part of the game. His knee injury wasnt on a dirty hit.

pathetic

10-18-2010, 10:44 AM

At the moment, he was. I was watching the game and was like oh my lanta. I mean with how common place flags have been in that situation, I would have tried for one, too.

and shattering your knee on a dirty hit tends to make QB's argue more for flags

Beebz

10-18-2010, 10:45 AM

At the moment, he was. I was watching the game and was like oh my lanta. I mean with how common place flags have been in that situation, I would have tried for one, too.

:lol:lol:lol

pathetic

10-18-2010, 10:46 AM

He was pounding the ground looking/screaming at the refs throwing his hand up and down imitating throwing a flag. But no, Im sure he didnt want the 15 yards.

:lol:lol:lol

Then dont come back. If you dont want to risk getting injured dont play NFL football. If you choose to do that, you do it with the understanding that injuries and hits are part of the game. His knee injury wasnt on a dirty hit.

you're the one complaining about it though...not brady. if he said something after the game about wanting a flag there then he should take a couple more looks at the play, but he's completely fine about what happened. then he got in suggs face about it. i didnt see him bitching for a flag at all

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 10:46 AM

At the moment, he was. I was watching the game and was like oh my lanta. I mean with how common place flags have been in that situation, I would have tried for one, too.

I guess he was lying then. He said he was pissed about the previous two penalties and wasn't looking for a flag on that play at all.

cry_minarets458

10-18-2010, 10:47 AM

It was actually the Ngata tackle as he was throwing, my bad, but it's pretty well documented how badly he wanted the flag as he went down.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81b6c669/article/patriots-brady-responds-to-ravens-lb-suggs-war-of-words?module=HP_headlines

EDIT: i should have specified watch the video..the second angle later on in the highlight

thebestauntie

10-18-2010, 10:47 AM

He was pounding the ground looking/screaming at the refs throwing his hand up and down imitating throwing a flag. But no, Im sure he didnt want the 15 yards.

:lol:lol:lol

Then dont come back. If you dont want to risk getting injured dont play NFL football. If you choose to do that, you do it with the understanding that injuries and hits are part of the game. His knee injury wasnt on a dirty hit.
Oh I'm not condoning his attitude about hits these days, I find it to be very wussy myself. I too miss the hardass that Brady was before the injury in 2007. Every time he calls for a flag I'm like "Grow a set for crying out loud, it's professional football not flag football!"

edit: I still blame it all on Gisele though. :lol

Beebz

10-18-2010, 10:50 AM

you're the one complaining about it though...not brady. if he said something after the game about wanting a flag there then he should take a couple more looks at the play, but he's completely fine about what happened. then he got in suggs face about it. i didnt see him bitching for a flag at all

Brady isnt going to complain that Brady is acting like a bitch.

Oh I'm not condoning his attitude about hits these days, I find it to be very wussy myself. I too miss the hardass that Brady was before the injury in 2007. Every time he calls for a flag I'm like "Grow a set for crying out loud, it's professional football not flag football!"

edit: I still blame it all on Gisele though. :lol

I will say its not just Brady. A lot of QBs do this now. But Brady goes too far and its a shame to see a guy who I used to like resort to ref-begging to make plays.

cry_minarets458

10-18-2010, 10:50 AM

Now that I think about it, it's even more ridiculous because the tackle he wanted the flag so badly for was from Ngata, not Suggs. Why the hell is Suggs and Brady even getting into it?! :lol c'mon guy!

TempHelpNeeded

10-18-2010, 10:50 AM

They still won the game, period.

Crush086

10-18-2010, 10:51 AM

I guess he was lying then. He said he was pissed about the previous two penalties and wasn't looking for a flag on that play at all.
Of course he's lying. If he thinks he can influence a ref's call for a flag of course he's going to try. If he gets it that's great, but if he doesn't he's just "fired up".

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 10:52 AM

They still won the game, period.

But brady is such a bitch and flacco played better :lorraine

cry_minarets458

10-18-2010, 10:52 AM

Oh well, but I'll leave it at this. Flacco played a better game overall, but Brady played better when he had to, if that makes any sense. Pats d owned when they had to, and Balt's d played too safe when they shouldn't have. Whoever lost, it would have been bitter. It doesn't eliminate either team from playoff contention as of now, and 11 weeks is a lot of football to play. I look forward to the postseason and maybe we'll get to play you guys, hell maybe even in Baltimore (depending on seeds).

RJP2741

10-18-2010, 10:52 AM

Brady was bitching over nothing on that call. He definitely wanted the flag on that play, but he's not going to say that today.

CrashDMB237

10-18-2010, 10:53 AM

I agree that Brady whines far too much, but are there seriously people trying to say Flacco is better/played better?

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 10:53 AM

Of course he's lying. If he thinks he can influence a ref's call for a flag of course he's going to try. If he gets it that's great, but if he doesn't he's just "fired up".

Probably. He is the only qb that does this stuff too.

RJP2741

10-18-2010, 10:55 AM

I agree that Brady whines far too much, but are there seriously people trying to say Flacco is better/played better?

It's kind of a flawed argument. You can't say Flacco was better yesterday because his team lost. But his stats are better and Brady was very mediocre.

Beebz

10-18-2010, 10:55 AM

But brady is such a bitch and flacco played better :lorraine

Both statements are true.

Oh well, but I'll leave it at this. Flacco played a better game overall, but Brady played better when he had to, if that makes any sense. Pats d owned when they had to, and Balt's d played too safe when they shouldn't have. Whoever lost, it would have been bitter. It doesn't eliminate either team from playoff contention as of now, and 11 weeks is a lot of football to play. I look forward to the postseason and maybe we'll get to play you guys, hell maybe even in Baltimore (depending on seeds).

I dont think the Pats D owned when they had to. I think the offensive and defensive playcalling fell apart when it had to.

Its a bad loss because the game was won and Baltimore blew it. With that brutal schedule, every win matters, and to blow a chance to hand a fellow one-loss team a defeat at home was a big miss.

Beebz

10-18-2010, 10:57 AM

It's kind of a flawed argument. You can't say Flacco was better yesterday because his team lost. But his stats are better and Brady was very mediocre.

Yes you can. Whether the team one or lost is irrelevant to how well a QB played.

QB A throws for 150 yards, 0 TDs and 2 INTs. QB B throws for 310 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT. QB A's team wins. Was QB A the better QB because he won?

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 10:57 AM

Brady was far from mediocre when it mattered and flacco was mediocre that's really all that matters.

TempHelpNeeded

10-18-2010, 10:57 AM

Falling apart, quitting, your team lost.

RJP2741

10-18-2010, 10:59 AM

Yes you can. Whether the team one or lost is irrelevant to how well a QB played.

QB A throws for 150 yards, 0 TDs and 2 INTs. QB B throws for 310 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT. QB A's team wins. Was QB A the better QB because he won?

Brady was far from mediocre when it mattered and flacco was mediocre that's really all that matters.

This is where I'm having trouble. Brady did play well when it mattered and his team won. Unfortunately he threw ground balls for 3 quarters before that.

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 11:01 AM

I dont think the Pats D owned when they had to. I think the offensive and defensive playcalling fell apart when it had to.

Shocking you would think this.

Beebz

10-18-2010, 11:02 AM

I agree that Brady whines far too much, but are there seriously people trying to say Flacco is better/played better?

He played better yesterday. He's not a better QB right now.

pathetic

10-18-2010, 11:03 AM

w/e as long as the pats keep beating dominant teams. brady could throw 4 picks and the defense could get lit up...still beat the ravens.

D looked good and Brady was solid running a different offense. i dont know how any pats fan could be disappointed with what happened yesterday! :thumbsup

Beebz

10-18-2010, 11:03 AM

This is where I'm having trouble. Brady did play well when it mattered and his team won. Unfortunately he threw ground balls for 3 quarters before that.

Do the first three quarters of a football game not matter?

Flacco played amazing for three quarters and then did what his coordinator told him to do in the fourth. He didnt even play bad in the fourth. He just had nothing to work with.

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 11:04 AM

This is where I'm having trouble. Brady did play well when it mattered and his team won. Unfortunately he threw ground balls for 3 quarters before that.

He didn't look good but the offense really couldn't get a rhythm going as a whole. I don't know why this matters really anyways. He looked great when he needed to get down field to tie the game.

pathetic

10-18-2010, 11:05 AM

brady was flushed out of the pocket and made a couple bad throws, but who wouldnt against the ravens Defense?

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 11:05 AM

Do the first three quarters of a football game not matter?

Flacco played amazing for three quarters and then did what his coordinator told him to do in the fourth. He didnt even play bad in the fourth. He just had nothing to work with.

I'm pretty sure all that matters is the final score. Awesome 3 quarters for flacco though :thumbsup

Beebz

10-18-2010, 11:07 AM

brady was flushed out of the pocket and made a couple bad throws, but who wouldnt against the ravens Defense?

Which is why if youre a ravens fan its infuriating to see Mattison employ a threeman rush for the entire fourth quarter (especially when all NE needed was a field goal to tie). Troy Smith would look good with a three man rush.

I'm pretty sure all that matters is the final score. Awesome 3 quarters for flacco though :thumbsup

Dont think anyone is saying otherwise. Just saying that Flacco was better.

thebestauntie

10-18-2010, 11:11 AM

They still won the game, period.
Wait, you mean who wins the game matters? :confused

CrashDMB237

10-18-2010, 11:12 AM

Why are you even arguing about what QB was better? It's like Dolphins fans taking the moral victory of beating the Jets twice last year but missing the playoffs.

pathetic

10-18-2010, 11:12 AM

Ravens lost the game cuz there's no way the pats could beat them. Period!

Ray Rice must have had a hangnail on his big toe cuz he couldnt average more than 3 yards a carry

Ed Reed is the best defensive player of all time and without him it's obvious the ravens would lose to the pats

Joe Flacco is in a different category than Tom Brady...the category that losing qb feel better with decent stats

anything else?

thebestauntie

10-18-2010, 11:14 AM

Which is why if youre a ravens fan its infuriating to see Mattison employ a threeman rush for the entire fourth quarter (especially when all NE needed was a field goal to tie). Troy Smith would look good with a three man rush.

Dont think anyone is saying otherwise. Just saying that Flacco was better.
Fine, yesterday Flacco was better, but the Ravens still lost the game. Why don't you ask Flacco which he would rather have, the title of being the better player yesterday or having the W.

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 11:16 AM

I'm pretty sure the first three quarters don't matter for shit when you can powerhouse/steamroll over a "Super Bowl Contender" the way New England did in the last 15 minutes yesterday. Awesome.

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 11:16 AM

Which is why if youre a ravens fan its infuriating to see Mattison employ a threeman rush for the entire fourth quarter (especially when all NE needed was a field goal to tie). Troy Smith would look good with a three man rush.

Dont think anyone is saying otherwise. Just saying that Flacco was better.

Who cares if flacco was better??? The ravens lost. And he wasn't better when it really mattered. I guess I don't get what's going on here.

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 11:17 AM

Why are you even arguing about what QB was better? It's like Dolphins fans taking the moral victory of beating the Jets twice last year but missing the playoffs.

:lol exactly. This is so dumb.

Beebz

10-18-2010, 11:19 AM

Why are you even arguing about what QB was better? It's like Dolphins fans taking the moral victory of beating the Jets twice last year but missing the playoffs.

Because I want to. What do you care? No one is saying Flacco's performance makes up for the loss.

Fine, yesterday Flacco was better, but the Ravens still lost the game. Why don't you ask Flacco which he would rather have, the title of being the better player yesterday or having the W.

Thank you.

Second part is irrelavent. No one cares what he would rather have. Its simply limited to who was better yesterday.

Who cares if flacco was better??? The ravens lost. And he wasn't better when it really mattered. I guess I don't get what's going on here.

Its not hard. Insane homer Pats fans think their team is the best thing in history and cannot admit that the opposing QB was better than Beiber yesterday.

No one is disputing a win.

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 11:19 AM

Does anyone give a shit about how Brady did in the 2007 super bowl? "Ohh but Brady is the better QB, even though they sucked ass in the 4th quarter....that last quarter means nothing!"

Still lost the fucking super bowl. Same shit.

TempHelpNeeded

10-18-2010, 11:20 AM

Onto more prosperous conversation. Loved breaking out the Branch jersey yesterday. I have Bill Murray as a Ghostbuster right now for my avatar, but I think it's going to change once I find my camera.

Beebz

10-18-2010, 11:20 AM

I'm pretty sure the first three quarters don't matter for shit when you can powerhouse/steamroll over a "Super Bowl Contender" the way New England did in the last 15 minutes yesterday. Awesome.

The Ravens raped New England worse than a college freshman for 45 minutes. That was awesome. Plus we beat you and left you in an alley in the playoffs when it mattered. And we'll do it again this year if we're lucky enough to get New England again.

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 11:20 AM

Because I want to. What do you care? No one is saying Flacco's performance makes up for the loss.

Thank you.

Second part is irrelavent. No one cares what he would rather have. Its simply limited to who was better yesterday.

Its not hard. Insane homer Pats fans think their team is the best thing in history and cannot admit that the opposing QB was better than Beiber yesterday.

No one is disputing a win.
You're right. It's better to be 0-16 and have an awesome QB rating. Amirite? That's your logic, btw.

pathetic

10-18-2010, 11:20 AM

it's funny that every week brady needs to be defended. cant people just admit he's a great qb?

Defense is looking better since we found out that Belichick is calling the plays now

TempHelpNeeded

10-18-2010, 11:21 AM

If all this bickering was about Flacco having a good day, then whoop-de-fucking-hoo! Good for him, he still lost.

DMBstandUP1984

10-18-2010, 11:21 AM

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 11:22 AM

The Ravens raped New England worse than a college freshman for 45 minutes. That was awesome. Plus we beat you and left you in an alley in the playoffs when it mattered. And we'll do it again this year if we're lucky enough to get New England again.

How was it getting that super bowl ring after the beating in the playoffs you guys laid on us? Or, did NE just have more time to practice their golf swings, because ultimately, both teams watched the SB from their homes?

Thats what I thought. The Ravens sure showed Brady by taking it all the way to the championship. :rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes

CrashDMB237

10-18-2010, 11:22 AM

Because I want to. What do you care? No one is saying Flacco's performance makes up for the loss.

I don't care, at all. Yesterday was win/win for my team... the team that has the tiebreaker over us lost. It just makes you look 10x more bitter when you are arguing that your QB had a better game despite your team losing.

thebestauntie

10-18-2010, 11:22 AM

How was it getting that super bowl ring after the beating in the playoffs you guys laid on us? Or, did NE just have more time to practice their golf swings, because ultimately, both teams watched the SB from their homes?

Thats what I thought. The Ravens sure showed Brady by taking it all the way to the championship. :rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes
Inorite? Confetti time!!!!!

TempHelpNeeded

10-18-2010, 11:22 AM

The Ravens raped New England worse than a college freshman for 45 minutes. That was awesome. Plus we beat you and left you in an alley in the playoffs when it mattered. And we'll do it again this year if we're lucky enough to get New England again.

Come on, admit it. You had a lot of personal invested hatred yesterday. You wanted the Patriots to lose. (Despite your "bet")

Beebz

10-18-2010, 11:23 AM

Brady sucked ass in all 4 quarters of the Super Bowl in 2007..as did the Pats.

I wouldnt say he sucked the entire game. His line sucked the entire game, for sure.

How was it getting that super bowl ring after the beating in the playoffs you guys laid on us? Or, did NE just have more time to practice their golf swings, because ultimately, both teams watched the SB from their homes?

Thats what I thought. The Ravens sure showed Brady by taking it all the way to the championship. :rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes

So now the Super Bowl is all that matters? Awesome, that win youre bragging about is now worthless. Good to know.

We beat you when it mattered. Period.

TempHelpNeeded

10-18-2010, 11:23 AM

Brady sucked ass in all 4 quarters of the Super Bowl in 2007..as did the Pats.

Why are you still here? Didn't Romo fumble a snap a long time ago?

dmbgodagirl41

10-18-2010, 11:24 AM

Inorite? Confetti time!!!!!

WHOOOEEEEEE!! I must have missed Baltimore winning the Super Bowl last year. Crap! Looks like this city owes its fans a parade!!! :multi:multi:multi

pathetic

10-18-2010, 11:24 AM

I wouldnt say he sucked the entire game. His line sucked the entire game, for sure.

So now the Super Bowl is all that matters? Awesome, that win youre bragging about is now worthless. Good to know.

We beat you when it mattered. Period.

like ricky quoted from tom. once in the past 9 years is nothing to brag about. especially since your 1 win didnt get you too far...20-3 against the colts right?

TempHelpNeeded

10-18-2010, 11:24 AM

Wait, Baltimore won something?

thebestauntie

10-18-2010, 11:25 AM

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 11:25 AM

Its not hard. Insane homer Pats fans think their team is the best thing in history and cannot admit that the opposing QB was better than Beiber yesterday.

I too sometimes get bitter after a team I follow coughs up a game. Its ok there is always next week.

TempHelpNeeded

10-18-2010, 11:25 AM

"Remember that time when we totally beat you and like you lost. And then like we didn't do too well the next week, but we totally beat you the week before. I mean, wow, that was awesome..."

~Ravens Fan Logic

Beebz

10-18-2010, 11:26 AM

Come on, admit it. You had a lot of personal invested hatred yesterday. You wanted the Patriots to lose. (Despite your "bet")

I want every team the ravens play to lose. And Pats fans are near the top of the "Worst fanbases in sports" list so making them eat a dick would have been nice, too. But they lost.

There's a difference between thinking a team will win (my money) and hoping a team will win.

I don't care, at all. Yesterday was win/win for my team... the team that has the tiebreaker over us lost. It just makes you look 10x more bitter when you are arguing that your QB had a better game despite your team losing.

Because Jets fans didnt go through this when the Ravens went into their place and walked out with a win.

Sanchez looked good yesterday. :lol:lol:lol:lol

CrashDMB237

10-18-2010, 11:26 AM

This is so ridiculous that me, a diehard Jets fan is defending the Patriots here :lol

rickyh24

10-18-2010, 11:26 AM

Why are you still here? Didn't Romo fumble a snap a long time ago?

Brady bashing is all he has. The cowboys are a joke.