New England Patriots

[rickyh24]

The following players were deactivated for the Patriots game Sunday against the Giants: quarterback Ryan Mallett, running back Kevin Faulk, wide receiver Taylor Price, offensive lineman Donald Thomas, defensive lineman Shaun Ellis, linebacker Jermaine Cunningham and linebacker Dane Fletcher.


http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports/newengland/football/patriots/2011/11/06/analysis-of-sundays-inactives-price-ellis-out-edelman-brace-are-in/

[rickyh24]

3rd and 1 and woodhead gets the ball. Awesome.

[RJP2741]

Good drive going here. Benny looks pretty good today.

[RJP2741]

Fuck me for saying something.

[thebestauntie]

Seriously?

[rickyh24]

How do they not see that guy flinch??

[trippingbillie4]

Let me know when the real Pats show up

[trippingbillie4]

This game is just goofy

[rickyh24]

This is ugly. Thankfully it's 0-0 still.

[rickyh24]

Just what this offense needed right now.

[trippingbillie4]

I guess we just can't win against the Giants. This is stupidest fucking shit I've ever seen. Our offense has been really pathetic the last 1 1/2 games. It just does not look the same.

[pathetic]

Exposed...

[pathetic]

Catch!! This will get overturned

[RJP2741]

It better.

[thebestauntie]

It's a catch.

[RJP2741]

LA, I saw your picture on FB, are you going back to school at PSU?

[gocubsgo3822]

Jay Cutler would have put more zip on that ball and not gotten it picked

RUH ROH :eek

[pathetic]

Dammit!!!

[RJP2741]

Can't you just let me and Ricky have one thread to ourselves?

[rickyh24]

Awesome. Just awesome.

[gocubsgo3822]

ok i will leave you alone..

Sorry be back after game

[rickyh24]

Can't you just let me and Ricky have one thread to ourselves?

But he is so funny bro.

[rickyh24]

Jesus. Start looking before you throw.

[thebestauntie]

LA, I saw your picture on FB, are you going back to school at PSU?
Yes, next fall.

[thebestauntie]

Jesus. Start looking before you throw.
When did he get so stupid?

[RJP2741]

Yes, next fall.

Congrats! That's awesome! What are you planning to study?

[thebestauntie]

Congrats! That's awesome! What are you planning to study?
Thanks! I'm psyched and freaked out all at the same time. :lol I will be studying psychology. Maybe I'll be able to figure out why the Patriots suck all of a sudden. :lol

[RJP2741]

Thanks! I'm psyched and freaked out all at the same time. :lol I will be studying psychology. Maybe I'll be able to figure out why the Patriots suck all of a sudden. :lol

This would be nice. I imagine you could write a thesis on it. :lol

[rickyh24]

This team is bad right now. They didn't look good beating Dallas, looked like shit last week and this week is ever worse. Back to the drawing board bill.

[RJP2741]

What the hell happened to this team. Figures the one game the defense shows up, the offense goes to hell.

[thebestauntie]

This would be nice. I imagine you could write a thesis on it. :lol
Haha, hey nice, at least I'll have my senior thesis all figured out. Or the subject of it. :lol

[thebestauntie]

Hey Ochocinco, try catching a fucking pass please?

[crashintonickdm]

Hey Ochocinco, try catching a fucking pass please?

im honestly shocked hes still there.

[thebestauntie]

im honestly shocked hes still there.
I miss Moss.

edit: and there's another miss by 85. What a loser.

[DMBZeppelin]

Brady is done. Time for Mallett.

[RJP2741]

I am very tempted to turn this game off...

[rickyh24]

Is being dumb a Chicago fan prerequisite?

[trippingbillie4]

Disgusting

[rickyh24]

Why not call a fair catch there?? That should be the game.

[trippingbillie4]

I'm done with this game

[thebestauntie]

I am very tempted to turn this game off...
This is disgusting.

[RJP2741]

Is that the first Patriots blitz of the season?

[pathetic]

Defense!!!! Awesome play by arrington

[pathetic]

Welker!! Best!!!1

[pathetic]

Great drive. Back to business.

[thebestauntie]

Hernandez TOUCHDOWN!!!

[rickyh24]

Defense will surely suck now. Just wait.

[rickyh24]

And here we go.....

[thebestauntie]

Defense will surely suck now. Just wait.
Haha, I was just about to post the same thing.

[rickyh24]

Nice. I knew they would come through.

[pathetic]

Oh, hai passrush

[trippingbillie4]

Damn I guess I'm bad luck. Right when I change the channel Arrington gets the int.

[pathetic]

Nice. I knew they would come through.

:lol:lol

[thebestauntie]

Nice. I knew they would come through.
:thumbsup I was just about to post this.

[crashintonickdm]

i need more points from wes.

lets go wes

[pathetic]

Ocho is so bad...

[thebestauntie]

Stop throwing in 85's direction.

[dmbbearcat]

Thanks for ridding us of Ocho.

- Bengals fans, fortunate enough to watch A.J. Green every week :)

[pathetic]

Bad spot. Welker is on fire

[rickyh24]

Keep throwing to ocho. It works out well.

[thebestauntie]

Stop putting 85 on the field.

[dmbbearcat]

Ocho is so awful. I never thought New England would have a lead though, so that's nice.

[thebestauntie]

Way to go Arrington.

[rickyh24]

And now the defense starts to suck. Of course.

[pathetic]

Adams has to make a play on that.

[rickyh24]

Great series for Arrington. What a joke.

[pathetic]

Arrington spent that whole series with his back to the qb.

Time for vintage Brady to do his thing

[trippingbillie4]

It's like the superbowl with twice as much time

[trippingbillie4]

Hell ya. Here we go!

[trippingbillie4]

Hell ya!!!!!!!!!

[pathetic]

Gronk!!!!! So clutch!

[thebestauntie]

Thank God!

[Rodey]

Gronk'd!

[rickyh24]

Still a lot of time. Fuck.

[RJP2741]

BiBi Jones to the rescue!!!

[luke7]

The Giants vs Pats and Packers vs Chargers games have nothing on the " Game of The Century " from last night.

[trippingbillie4]

Our D is actually been playing well. Let's get some sacks!!!

[rickyh24]

Missing that chip shot is huge.

[rickyh24]

Get Off the field scrub.

[pathetic]

Chung is a gamer. Big time

[thebestauntie]

Why did the Pats call time out?

[pathetic]

Come on...

[trippingbillie4]

God damnit

[rickyh24]

That's game. Defense comes through all day until it matters. Classic.

[thebestauntie]

I hate football.

edit: Wow, just wow. This defense sucks so bad.

[pathetic]

What.the.fuck.

[rickyh24]

Ball wasn't even close to catchable. Eli bailed out again. Unbelievable.

[trippingbillie4]

Fuck this defense

[trippingbillie4]

Fucking pathetic man

[rickyh24]

Defense is horrible when it matters. What a fucking joke. I don't even want this team in the playoffs at this point.

[thebestauntie]

I'm so disgusted.

[trippingbillie4]

Once again they let these fucking punks beat them. Unbelievable

[DMBZeppelin]

Is being dumb a Chicago fan prerequisite?
It always amazes me the things you take seriously.

[mja271]

Defense is horrible when it matters. What a fucking joke. I don't even want this team in the playoffs at this point.

:lol:lol

[rickyh24]

:lol:lol

Wasn't a joke at all.

[DmBand801]

Once again they let these fucking punks beat them. Unbelievable

Punks? :lol

[trippingbillie4]

I think I need to take a break from these games

[rickyh24]

It always amazes me the things you take seriously.

Hard to tell with you Chitown guys. I just assume its all serious.

[mja271]

Wasn't a joke at all.

I know, that's why it's funny

[rickyh24]

I now, that's why it's funny

Oh ok....

[trippingbillie4]

Punks? :lol

Ya. Like the punk who shot himself in the foot. Or Jacobs the punk who screwed up my fantasy team.

[NextMovement41]

lol, u mad?

[DmBand801]

Ya. Like the punk who shot himself in the foot. Or Jacobs the punk who screwed up my fantasy team.

You're a clown.

[rickyh24]

:lol As shitty as they have looked they are still 5-3 and really just need to beat NYJ and the Bills and they should be good. Like I said though it will be one and done if the D can't step up when it matters. Its amazing that they can get stops all game and just fold when they really need to come through.

Oh yeah and just ignore the trolls. People get off on this team losing because it doesn't happens a lot. I :lol every time I see a comment like "I love watching NE lose" No one cares when the Giants, Cowboys, Chargers, Ravens etc lose because it happens all the time.

[DmBand801]

:lol As shitty as they have looked they are still 5-3 and really just need to beat NYJ and the Bills and they should be good. Like I said though it will be one and done if the D can't step up when it matters. Its amazing that they can get stops all game and just fold when they really need to come through.

Oh yeah and just ignore the trolls. People get off on this team losing because it doesn't happens a lot. I :lol every time I see a comment like "I love watching NE lose" No one cares when the Giants, Cowboys, Chargers, Ravens etc lose because it happens all the time.

I love you.

[crashintonickdm]

the giants always win big games on the biggest breaks you will ever see.

that GW drive, eli got away with 2 of the dumbest throws that only he can make.

[NextMovement41]

:lol As shitty as they have looked they are still 5-3 and really just need to beat NYJ and the Bills and they should be good. Like I said though it will be one and done if the D can't step up when it matters. Its amazing that they can get stops all game and just fold when they really need to come through.

Oh yeah and just ignore the trolls. People get off on this team losing because it doesn't happens a lot. I :lol every time I see a comment like "I love watching NE lose" No one cares when the Giants, Cowboys, Chargers, Ravens etc lose because it happens all the time.

whatever helps ya sleep at night

[crashintonickdm]

giants are celebeating like they won the super bowl

theyll lose 2 of their next 3.

[rickyh24]

whatever helps ya sleep at night

Exactly. Enjoy hoping for a NE loss every week to satisfy your football happiness.

[MGH4007]

Yeah so they fucked that one up, I had the last 5 minutes on pause and just finished it. Sucks more bc i'm from NY and most of my friends like the Giants and their shit is all over FB. Whatever, as long as they make it to the playoffs I'm not too worried about a regular reason loss.

[mja271]

Oh ok....

I root for a team that has basically been absolutely awful for the better part of the last 20 years; I'd never be caught dead saying I don't want them to make the playoffs, no matter how poor they were playing at the time. It's just a spoiled by success mindset imo. I understand frustration, and I hate the G-Men too, but that comment is crazy to me.

[rickyh24]

I root for a team that has basically been absolutely awful for the better part of the last 20 years; I'd never be caught dead saying I don't want them to make the playoffs, no matter how poor they were playing at the time. It's just a spoiled by success mindset imo. I understand frustration, and I hate the G-Men too, but that comment is crazy to me.

Right I really don't want them to make the playoffs :lol That comment is meant to show that even if they get in they are not going to do anything unless the D can come up with a big stop when it matters. Of course I want them in. Does that mean I have to believe they will get it done once they are there?

[NextMovement41]

Exactly. Enjoy hoping for a NE loss every week to satisfy your football happiness.

Makes me so happy, so I will

[rickyh24]

Makes me so happy, so I will

:lol:lol:lol

[dduncan6er]

Lotta dumb in this thread once again. Wasn't expecting anything different. This team wont do anything in the playoffs until the defense gets better.

[AJF_41]

manning >> brady

....eli of course

[rickyh24]

manning >> brady

....eli of course

False. Giants Offense > Pats D. I'll give you that one.

[dduncan6er]

If this team doesn't use both of their first rounders at the draft on the defensive side of the ball I give up. There's just not enough high end talent on the defense right now.

[dmbbearcat]

I don't think they have a lot of high end talent around Brady either. I think they need a deep threat who can stretch the field like Moss could.

[dduncan6er]

The offense isn't the issue. Sure they could use a burner but Brady is more than capable of winning with the guys around him.

[dmbbearcat]

The offense isn't the issue. Sure they could use a burner but Brady is more than capable of winning with the guys around him.

Oh, I agree, but if there's a big deep threat available in the 3rd or 4th round, I think he'd be tough to pass up.

[dmbbearcat]

Tony Dungy saying that Eli out-played Brady :lol

[dduncan6er]

Oh, I agree, but if there's a big deep threat available in the 3rd or 4th round, I think he'd be tough to pass up.

I'd rather see them sign a free agent wr. They've drafted speed guys in the 3rd and 4th rounds a few times but none of them have panned out.

[rickyh24]

Tony Dungy saying that Eli out-played Brady :lol

:lol :lol

[dmbbearcat]

The Steelers found Mike Wallace in the third round, so those guys are out there.

[dduncan6er]

The Steelers found Mike Wallace in the third round, so those guys are out there.

Guys like Wallace are the exception not the norm. That's like saying the pats got Brady in the 5th round so theres guys out there. Id much rather bring in a free agent so well know what were getting.

[kingchrisII]

Guys like Wallace are the exception not the norm. That's like saying the pats got Brady in the 5th round so theres guys out there. Id much rather bring in a free agent so well know what were getting.

But do you really know what you are getting? Ocho Cinco and Haynesworth have both underperformed... (Yes I know they are trades not free agency, but you get the point)

I don't think the offense is a problem for the Pats though, they are pretty much as good as it gets offensively. Their defense really is probably one of the worst defenses I have ever seen though.

[dduncan6er]

But do you really know what you are getting? Ocho Cinco and Haynesworth have both underperformed... (Yes I know they are trades not free agency, but you get the point)

I don't think the offense is a problem for the Pats though, they are pretty much as good as it gets offensively. Their defense really is probably one of the worst defenses I have ever seen though.

A speed receiver is different that a guy like Ochocinco. You just need him to be able to keep the safeties honest. Chad is not that type of receiver.

[dmbbearcat]

I think there are local D-III colleges with better defenses than what New England is featuring.

[kingchrisII]

A speed receiver is different that a guy like Ochocinco. You just need him to be able to keep the safeties honest. Chad is not that type of receiver.

That's true. I think Marques Colston is set to be a free agent next year... He might be a good idea for the Pats, solid number 2. I still dont think they should stress over it though, the offense is great, the defense is the worst in football.

[dduncan6er]

That's true. I think Marques Colston is set to be a free agent next year... He might be a good idea for the Pats, solid number 2. I still dont think they should stress over it though, the offense is great, the defense is the worst in football.

I'm definitely not saying it should be their main concern. But it seems to be the one thing the offense is missing.

[DMBstandUP1984]

if the Cowboys didn't shoot themselves in the foot 3 weeks ago the Pats would be 4-4...I know what I say in this thread is not going to get any credit but don't you think its time for them to bring in a "randy moss" type WR teams know what to expect when playing the Patriots now. Last three games they have scored 20, 17 and 20 points which Brady has had 6TDs and 4INTs and the running game has not been there. As bad as the defense has been the offense has not played up to par as well.

[rickyh24]

if the Cowboys didn't shoot themselves in the foot 3 weeks ago the Pats would be 4-4.

that didn't happen though.

[dduncan6er]

If the patriots defense didn't suck they'd probably be undefeated.

[rickyh24]

If my Xbox could give me blow jobs I would never leave my bedroom.

[DMBstandUP1984]

If the patriots defense didn't suck they'd probably be undefeated.

but they do suck

[dduncan6er]

but they do suck

Oh I thought we were playing the hypothetical game when I read your post. Sorry I'll just go back to beating my wife.

[DMBstandUP1984]

all i'm saying is things could be a lot worse and could get a lot worse. They had to bring in more backups on defense today because of injuries and next week they have the Jets in New York which has not exactly been an easy task for the Patriots the past few years...and a Jets team that just had a pretty convincing win against a team that beat the patriots

[DMBstandUP1984]

you guys are really bad at this. i know what your post are going to be before you even post

[dduncan6er]

all i'm saying is things could be a lot worse and could get a lot worse. They had to bring in more backups on defense today because of injuries and next week they have the Jets in New York which has not exactly been an easy task for the Patriots the past few years...and a Jets team that just had a pretty convincing win against a team that beat the patriots

Things could also be a lot better. Only game they didnt have a chance at winning was the steelers game.

[dduncan6er]

you guys are really bad at this. i know what your post are going to be before you even post

Sorry our commentary isn't as fresh as yours.

[DMBstandUP1984]

not that but I make a point i'm not in here gloating or talking shit i asked a legit question to a group of Patriots fans..and in typical patriots fans fashion i don't get a real answer just them beating around the bush

[dduncan6er]

Read what I was saying before your post. I agree the team needs a deep threat but that's not the reason why they're losing games right now.

[rickyh24]

you guys are really bad at this. i know what your post are going to be before you even post

That is probably because you say the same shit over and over.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Read what I was saying before your post. I agree the team needs a deep threat but that's not the reason why they're losing games right now.

i didn't see that before i posted and you're right its not why they are losing games but once a teams defense takes away the middle of the field they gain the upper hand and its not like you have to respect the play action and again the hardly use Ridley that kid should be getting 10-12 touches a game

[rickyh24]

Sorry our commentary isn't as fresh as yours.

:lol :lol

[dduncan6er]

I agree that ridley should get more work. The backfield is crowded though with green ellis and woodhead.

[rickyh24]

Ridley not getting more touches is not even close to this teams problem right now.

[thehoss]

the giants always win big games on the biggest breaks you will ever see.

that GW drive, eli got away with 2 of the dumbest throws that only he can make.

you're a joke nick. says the romo-lover. eli is eli-te. give it up.

[dmbbearcat]

If Eli is an elite QB, then so is Andy Dalton.

[thehoss]

where was faulk today? hurt? i think he could have made a difference in your offense in the redzone

[thebestauntie]

where was faulk today? hurt? i think he could have made a difference in your offense in the redzone
He was inactive today, but I'm not sure why.

[dduncan6er]

He was hurt. Not sure what he would have done that woodhead didn't do though.

[thehoss]

If Eli is an elite QB, then so is Andy Dalton.

if bradshaw and nicks played, people would have given the giants a chance. he just won a game with a non draftee and a 4th round pick out of manningham. and jeremy...no, kevin boo....nope, jake ballard. and jacobs, who everyone called a clown. cmon guys, what the hell does this guy have to do to get respect? Manning, Brees, Rodgers, Brady


Big Ben, Eli? how is that not an arguement?

[MGH4007]

you're a joke nick. says the romo-lover. eli is eli-te. give it up.

I think he's just pissed Romo n(ever) comes through.

[dduncan6er]

if bradshaw and nicks played, people would have given the giants a chance. he just won a game with a non draftee and a 4th round pick out of manningham. and jeremy...no, kevin boo....nope, jake ballard. and jacobs, who everyone called a clown. cmon guys, what the hell does this guy have to do to get respect? Manning, Brees, Rodgers, Brady


Big Ben, Eli? how is that not an arguement?

He also played the worst passing defense in the league. Not trying to get involved in the argument just pointing that out.

[thehoss]

can you agree, that most of those yards are garbage yards, because of the pats being ahead alot of the season? you have to look at both ends man.

[dduncan6er]

can you agree, that most of those yards are garbage yards, because of the pats being ahead alot of the season? you have to look at both ends man.

Not too many are garbage yards. The ones against the dolphins are. But other than that most have been pretty legit. The pats pass defense is ranked right where they should be.

[thehoss]

agree to disagree. just dont see why nobody can admit the growth of eli from last year. if he blew this game, people would blow him out of the water, but he won this game, with a minutes left, in new england, where they havent lost in 3 years, and still, gets nothing. just foolish, in my opinion.

[dduncan6er]

agree to disagree. just dont see why nobody can admit the growth of eli from last year. if he blew this game, people would blow him out of the water, but he won this game, with a minutes left, in new england, where they havent lost in 3 years, and still, gets nothing. just foolish, in my opinion.

Have you turned on the tv lately? Dungy was practically blowing him before the sunday night game.

[thehoss]

Have you turned on the tv lately? Dungy was practically blowing him before the sunday night game.

so, theres one guy, out of how many media outlets? including the metro area?

[dduncan6er]

If you think Eli is elite why do you care what the media is saying about him? If you think he's good then just be happy he's your teams qb.

[rickyh24]

I have a friend that text me after every loss. He is just like Gocubs but 100 % serious. He is sick of Bill and wants him gone :lol

[dduncan6er]

I wish Bill had a personnel guy he trusted like pioli to help him make decisions on drafting defensive players. Bill has had quite a few misses there. But regardless theres no better coach than Bill. Anyone that wants him gone is a moron.

[MGH4007]

agree to disagree. just dont see why nobody can admit the growth of eli from last year. if he blew this game, people would blow him out of the water, but he won this game, with a minutes left, in new england, where they havent lost in 3 years, and still, gets nothing. just foolish, in my opinion.

As it's been said, the Pats passing defense is the worst in the league. I don't mean to take away from Eli, it was an outstanding drive and the play calling was even better. The last play couldn't have been called better.

[thehoss]

As it's been said, the Pats passing defense is the worst in the league. I don't mean to take away from Eli, it was an outstanding drive and the play calling was even better. The last play couldn't have been called better.

ill put alot of credit to gillbride, for once, he called a great game. Guess its just how eli was a turnover piece of shit last year, and now he's taking care of the ball, and driving in the 4th quarter to win games this year (5)

[RJP2741]

It's easy to do that when the secondary sucks and there is no pass rush. When we got pressure on Eli, he threw a pick.

[CrashDMB237]

Next week is going to be war. Or you're going to win 45-3. It's going to be one of the two :lol

Seriously though, wtf happened to McCourty? He was the lone bright spot in that secondary and he's become painfully pedestrian.

[Ascf33]

what up motherfuckers!!!1

[Trippin4136]

if bradshaw and nicks played, people would have given the giants a chance. he just won a game with a non draftee and a 4th round pick out of manningham. and jeremy...no, kevin boo....nope, jake ballard. and jacobs, who everyone called a clown. cmon guys, what the hell does this guy have to do to get respect? Manning, Brees, Rodgers, Brady


Big Ben, Eli? how is that not an arguement?

teh hoss?!?!? returns?


And oh yea...

Eli > Brady


Forehead > Katie

[dduncan6er]

Next week is going to be war. Or you're going to win 45-3. It's going to be one of the two :lol

Seriously though, wtf happened to McCourty? He was the lone bright spot in that secondary and he's become painfully pedestrian.
McCourty has been nothing short of awful this year. But I actually thought he played one of his better games of the year last year. On a few plays he had great coverage for about 5-6 seconds but the lack of pass rush allowed the receivers to have time to get open. There's only 2-3 corners in the league that can consistently lock down a WR for that long.

[Ascf33]

Hoss and Jon in the same thread once again... what is this, 2007?

[Trippin4136]

Hoss and Jon in the same thread once again... what is this, 2007?

Nick Green > A-Rod

[Ascf33]

:lol :lol

[rickyh24]

I forgot how dumb giants fans can be Eli>Brady!!!@!

[Ascf33]

you can't spell Elite without Eli...

[ProudestAnt]

Hey Ricky, go Pats!!

[rickyh24]

Hey Ricky, go Pats!!

Do you think there is any way the Bills win more than 2 of their next 5 games?

[rickyh24]

@ Dal - L
@ MIA - W
@ NYJ - L
Ten - L/W
@ SD - L

They will beat Mia and maybe beat Tennessee. They will be out of the picture soon.

[dduncan6er]

I wouldn't say SD is an automatic loss for them.

[CrashDMB237]

I've been saying since the get go, up through when they beat the Pats too and everyone was talking about them and the Lions being teams you don't want to face... the Bills are just a story. They are the same time with a few minor additions. They peaked about as early as any team possibly could. But don't the Bills do that every year? I remember the 5-0 season :lol

[Ascf33]

Or Dallas or NYJ...

Ricky is just being a bitch.

[ProudestAnt]

Do you think there is any way the Bills win more than 2 of their next 5 games?
Pretty sure there's a reason they play the games on Sunday. No one counted on them beating the Pats this season...

[ProudestAnt]

I've been saying since the get go, up through when they beat the Pats too and everyone was talking about them and the Lions being teams you don't want to face... the Bills are just a story. They are the same time with a few minor additions. They peaked about as early as any team possibly could. But don't the Bills do that every year? I remember the 5-0 season :lol
The 5-0 season was different. They were a bad team beating bad teams. They have quality wins this season. Are they going to win the division? No. But are they going to be around until the end and make an impact on who does win the division? Absolutely. Especially considering they go to NE for the last week of the season. Anything can happen...

[rickyh24]

I wouldn't say SD is an automatic loss for them.

Or Dallas or NYJ...

Ricky is just being a bitch.

I'm not saying its automatic but those teams on the road not easy games.

[rickyh24]

Pretty sure there's a reason they play the games on Sunday.

I'm pretty sure there is too!! Go Bills!!

[rickyh24]

Ascf33 is the worst. Only around to troll threads after the corresponding team losses.

[Ascf33]

Not true. I trolled in here just last week before the game was even played.

[rickyh24]

Not true. I trolled in here just last week before the game was even played.

Worst....

[ProudestAnt]

Not true. I trolled in here just last week before the game was even played.
:lol :lol

[rickyh24]

Hey Ryan, Go Bills!!

[ProudestAnt]

Go Pats!! Tiebreaker!!

[rickyh24]

I'm not worried about a tie breaker half way through the year.

[Ascf33]

Worst....

:lol :lol

[Ascf33]

I liked when Tom Brady chucked the water bottle after his first INT and ended up getting soaked. :lol

[pathetic]

tiebreaker :lol if this team ends up in a tiebreaker that means they probably didnt improve much from their last two games and would be meaningless in the playoffs.

pats need to stretch the field more. if it's price then it's price, but ocho is not understanding this offense... the defense is not going to be more than above average this season, i dont think they'll play better than they did the first half of yesterday's game. i'll take that if the offense can put up 30+ a game, but that's not happening right now either.

[rickyh24]

Yeah the defense didn't look that bad yesterday except for when it really mattered. Frustrating.

[CrashDMB237]

I thought the defense looked pretty terrible all game long. When Jacobs wasn't tripping all over himself, he was gaining yards and so were Scott/Ware. Cruz was abusing, Manningham was abusing, even Ramses fucking Barden got open. I said it in the NFL thread, but when you guys signed Ihedigbo, I was more worried than when you signed Ellis. Digs had been solid for us for three years and I thought for sure he would have his breakout year with you guys (or at least get noticed). I don't know how he's not playing over Arrington consistently.

[pathetic]

Yeah the defense didn't look that bad yesterday except for when it really mattered. Frustrating.

they stopped blitzing. they were playing up on the receivers and blitzing the whole first half. they played scared again when it counted the most. brady had 3 turnovers i think and that can't happen when we have a defense in this stage of development. the offense is talented enough to fix, hopefully it's sooner than later

[pathetic]

I thought the defense looked pretty terrible all game long. When Jacobs wasn't tripping all over himself, he was gaining yards and so were Scott/Ware. Cruz was abusing, Manningham was abusing, even Ramses fucking Barden got open. I said it in the NFL thread, but when you guys signed Ihedigbo, I was more worried than when you signed Ellis. Digs had been solid for us for three years and I thought for sure he would have his breakout year with you guys (or at least get noticed). I don't know how he's not playing over Arrington consistently.

lack of depth, and the fact that arrington (while i agree is about average) has 5 picks

[rickyh24]

Terrible all game long?? Look at the first half stats. Giants couldn't convert a 3rd done.

[pathetic]

I thought the defense looked pretty terrible all game long. .

did you see the pass rush on manning and the coverage by the secondary? they played a great first half. no one is saying 85 bears, but we saw a team take a huge step forward as opposed to being the last ranked defense in the nfl..

[rickyh24]

did you see the pass rush on manning and the coverage by the secondary? they played a great first half. no one is saying 85 bears, but we saw a team take a huge step forward as opposed to being the last ranked defense in the nfl..

We have seen spurts of it the past few weeks. They can't do it consistently.

[pathetic]

We have seen spurts of it the past few weeks. They can't do it consistently.

i think that's what's the most frustrating part is. i can't imagine how BB feels. his demeanor doesn't change much on the sidelines though

[CrashDMB237]

Maybe I get spoiled by watching our secondary, but I really thought coverage was pretty poor all game long. Pass rush was there in the first half though. Kind of.

[thehoss]

Hoss and Jon in the same thread once again... what is this, 2007?

throwback! ill never forget that thrashing we put on katie. classic. hope you guys are doing well. :thumbsup

[dduncan6er]

Maybe I get spoiled by watching our secondary, but I really thought coverage was pretty poor all game long. Pass rush was there in the first half though. Kind of.
The defense was solid in the 1st half. It was all down hill from there though.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Defense was solid first half but the offense was poor..second half they flipped..if they could both get on the same page NE probably would have blown them out.

this and the dallas came i expected a shootout but neither game turned out to be one

[jackisback24]

any unsigned cornerbacks out there now? Besides Darren Sharper? And for pass rush, where did Tully Banta-Cain go? He wasn't that bad.

[pathetic]

any unsigned cornerbacks out there now? Besides Darren Sharper? And for pass rush, where did Tully Banta-Cain go? He wasn't that bad.

i still dont get why they don't take a chance on sharper...i mean is he that out of shape/washed up?

[dduncan6er]

Sharper was on the Saints' sideline yesterday.

[pathetic]

offense turned the ball over 4x and gostkowski missed a chip shot...this game was not on the defense. doesn't matter if they blew it at the end

[DMBstandUP1984]

He also played the worst passing defense in the league. Not trying to get involved in the argument just pointing that out.

Packers have the 31st worse passing defense in the league.....and are undefeated.

Rodgers > Brady

i'm sure Patriots fans will say Rodgers has weapons and Brady doesn't...which was the excuse the last 8 years in the Manning, Brady debate.

Branch/Welker are the leading WR duo in the NFL this season.

[dduncan6er]

Packers have the 31st worse passing defense in the league.....and are undefeated.

Rodgers > Brady

i'm sure Patriots fans will say Rodgers has weapons and Brady doesn't...which was the excuse the last 8 years in the Manning, Brady debate.

Branch/Welker are the leading WR duo in the NFL this season.
Come on now Branch is a scrub and I think everyone knows that. Brady made Branch. And the Packers have the 31st worst passing D because they're always up and teams have to throw against them to try to get back in it.

[pathetic]

Packers have the 31st worse passing defense in the league.....and are undefeated.

Rodgers > Brady

i'm sure Patriots fans will say Rodgers has weapons and Brady doesn't...which was the excuse the last 8 years in the Manning, Brady debate.

Branch/Welker are the leading WR duo in the NFL this season.

i'm not being suckered into this debate. Rodgers is playing the QB position better than anyone in the game right now. i dont think anyone with half a brain would argue that. to say he's better than tom is a bold statement. rodgers had a team built around him ready to win and he's done an amazing job with that team. brady's been doing this for over a decade now, when rodgers gets halfway there, maybe a debate can be started up, but right now aaron rodgers is having his 3rd GREAT season in a row. brady's been there and done that for a decade already...

[dduncan6er]

i'm not being suckered into this debate. Rodgers is playing the QB position better than anyone in the game right now. i dont think anyone with half a brain would argue that. to say he's better than tom is a bold statement. rodgers had a team built around him ready to win and he's done an amazing job with that team. brady's been doing this for over a decade now, when rodgers gets halfway there, maybe a debate can be started up, but right now aaron rodgers is having his 3rd GREAT season in a row. brady's been there and done that for a decade already...
Pretty much this. Rodgers is playing on a level that no other QB in the league is playing at right now. But if I have 1 game I need to win right now, give me Brady any day of the week.

[pathetic]

Come on now Branch is a scrub and I think everyone knows that. Brady made Branch. And the Packers have the 31st worst passing D because they're always up and teams have to throw against them to try to get back in it.

i dont think he's a scrub, but he's no better than a #2/3 on any other team.

[dduncan6er]

i dont think he's a scrub, but he's no better than a #2/3 on any other team.
Branch runs good routes but that's about it. His speed is pretty much non-existant and he's incapable of getting open in man coverage.

[pathetic]

Branch runs good routes but that's about it. His speed is pretty much non-existant and he's incapable of getting open in man coverage.

“Deion disappears too much against regular corners. He disappears in the game. He’s made, like, three guest appearances since the Super Bowl. . . . Look at his stats. Look at his game. . . . He’s just a guy. You guys have to be real about it.”

[DMBstandUP1984]

i'm not being suckered into this debate. Rodgers is playing the QB position better than anyone in the game right now. i dont think anyone with half a brain would argue that. to say he's better than tom is a bold statement. rodgers had a team built around him ready to win and he's done an amazing job with that team. brady's been doing this for over a decade now, when rodgers gets halfway there, maybe a debate can be started up, but right now aaron rodgers is having his 3rd GREAT season in a row. brady's been there and done that for a decade already...


The first three weeks of the season Brady was playing out of his mind it was ridiculous the stats he was putting up. The last few weeks it looks like he is forcing a lot more passes to do anything to keep the defense off the field, which is causing more mistakes. Since the 4th/2 game you can tell BB does not trust his defense (ie last weeks onsides kick) but why are they not doing anything to fix it. I think he is still doing a great job as a coach but as the GM not so much. Clearly they have been hitting on their offense picks but their defense picks have been trending down or not even getting on the field. They have zero depth.

[DMBstandUP1984]

was Taylor Price a healthy scratch? i thought yesterday was suppose to be his breakout game

[dduncan6er]

The first three weeks of the season Brady was playing out of his mind it was ridiculous the stats he was putting up. The last few weeks it looks like he is forcing a lot more passes to do anything to keep the defense off the field, which is causing more mistakes. Since the 4th/2 game you can tell BB does not trust his defense (ie last weeks onsides kick) but why are they not doing anything to fix it. I think he is still doing a great job as a coach but as the GM not so much. Clearly they have been hitting on their offense picks but their defense picks have been trending down or not even getting on the field. They have zero depth.
There's the issue. The Pats have been nothing short of awful drafting defensive players.

[dduncan6er]

was Taylor Price a healthy scratch? i thought yesterday was suppose to be his breakout game
:confused Where did you hear that?

[DMBstandUP1984]

There's the issue. The Pats have been nothing short of awful drafting defensive players.

and if you go back and look at their drafts a lot of it has to do with them trading down for picks.

[DMBstandUP1984]

:confused Where did you hear that?

i didn't hear anything about him thats why im asking

[pathetic]

:confused Where did you hear that?

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/football/patriots/view/2011_1104escalating_price_wr_hopes_to_strike_it_ri ch_with_brady_team/


i think he's talking about o'brien calling for price to get more reps

[dduncan6er]

To an extent I agree. But there's a ton of guys they've taken in the first 2-3 rounds that contributed little to nothing. Merriweather, Butler, Cunningham, Brace, Wheatley. In the first 2-3 rounds you have to expect those guys to be contributors at some point and all those guys were drafted within the last 4 years and are already cut.

[DMBstandUP1984]

at some point do you think BB will just move to full time GM and bring in one of "his guys" as a head coach?

[pathetic]

at some point do you think BB will just move to full time GM and bring in one of "his guys" as a head coach?

i think he knows that he has something special with brady and as long as he can be a top qb in the league, BB has time to build a defense on this team. hopefully he can build up a defense for one more run at a dynasty

[dmbbearcat]

Brady's 34...not exactly young. I think that window is closing. I think they might be able to win one more ring, but it would have to be in the next 3-4 seasons.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Brady's 34...not exactly young. I think that window is closing. I think they might be able to win one more ring, but it would have to be in the next 3-4 seasons.

Feel like its going to get harder not easier. Outside of Welker and the two TEs what other elite younger wide receivers do they have? The running game is nothing great sure Ellis is dependable but not enough to carry a team. Again it seems like they have a depth issues at almost every position aside from the Tightends

[pathetic]

Brady's 34...not exactly young. I think that window is closing. I think they might be able to win one more ring, but it would have to be in the next 3-4 seasons.
right, which is why i think BB sticks around as Head Coach as long as brady is QB

[dmbbearcat]

It seems like the offensive line has gotten worse as the season goes on. Still, the offense is not going to keep them from winning a championship. The defense has to be addressed if they want to get out of round one of the postseason.

[abbotter88]

I think Brady probably has 2.5-3.5 elite years left in him, so that looks like the window. Taylor Price was looking like he was going to get a chance to be that downfield type threat, but came up injured this week. I think he has potential, and could help unclog some of the underneath passing lanes.

[pathetic]

It seems like the offensive line has gotten worse as the season goes on. Still, the offense is not going to keep them from winning a championship. The defense has to be addressed if they want to get out of round one of the postseason.

i didnt see anything wrong with the O-line yesterday. brady threw the ball 49x and was only on the ground 3x against a team that was rushing him with 4 good passrushers the whole game

[dmbbearcat]

I actually didn't see any of yesterday's game, so I'll take your word for it.

[pathetic]

Arrington24_7 Kyle Arrington
Don't hop back on the bandwagon later #fakefans

pffft...arrington...we're being critical of the play on the field. no one is saying we aren't supporting the team...

[rickyh24]

Get off twitter and teach the other d backs how to not run into a reciever with the game on the line.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Arrington24_7 Kyle Arrington
Don't hop back on the bandwagon later #fakefans

pffft...arrington...we're being critical of the play on the field. no one is saying we aren't supporting the team...

Maybe he should stop tweeting and focus on not being called for Pass Interference, practically giving the Giants the game.

[pathetic]

coach on WEEI now. time to get all the answers!

[pathetic]

Maybe he should stop tweeting and focus on not being called for Pass Interference, practically giving the Giants the game.

it was brown, but i agree.

edit: well, he was called for PI, but not on the play that gave them the ball at the 1

[dmbgodagirl41]

it was brown, but i agree.

he wasn't one of the two? Damn, I was more annoyed than I thought.

Edit: Just saw your edit. Two big gains that the Giants had were because of PI called against the Patriots. Take those away, and, well...yeah.

[pathetic]

he wasn't one of the two? Damn, I was more annoyed than I thought.

Edit: Just saw your edit. Two big gains that the Giants had were because of PI called against the Patriots. Take those away, and, well...yeah.

meh...imo take those away and Eli prob still drives the ball downfield. the defense was playing scared and stopped blitzing.

[dmbgodagirl41]

meh...imo take those away and Eli prob still drives the ball downfield. the defense was playing scared and stopped blitzing.

We need to knock off this zone bullshit. I hate it. Pick a guy, and stick with him. When they start spreading out, they get picked apart like some kind of JV team. It's awful. No one should be converting on a 3rd and 17 situation against us. Fucking rookies.

Edit: Also, stop going for the TD every GD time. You go for the first down in that final scoring drive by Brady, and you eat another minute off the clock. If the Giants were going to get the ball back, put THEM in the 16 second situation. :BANG

[pathetic]

We need to knock off this zone bullshit. I hate it. Pick a guy, and stick with him. When they start spreading out, they get picked apart like some kind of JV team. It's awful. No one should be converting on a 3rd and 17 situation against us. Fucking rookies.

Edit: Also, stop going for the TD every GD time. You go for the first down in that final scoring drive by Brady, and you eat another minute off the clock. If the Giants were going to get the ball back, put THEM in the 16 second situation. :BANG

i dont like the amount of time they left on the clock either, but TD's aren't guaranteed, so scoring was the priority over clock management. how many times have you seen a team try to be too cute and end up turning the ball over or getting stopped?

[dmbgodagirl41]

i dont like the amount of time they left on the clock either, but TD's aren't guaranteed, so scoring was the priority over clock management. how many times have you seen a team try to be too cute and end up turning the ball over or getting stopped?

With the way that drive went, when it's 1st and 10 on the 15, just keep marching it down. It's the Giants, the TD at that point was pretty much guaranteed. That's twice they've lost now because of shitty clock management.

Though, on the other side, the D should have been able to stop the Manning sister.

[CrashDMB237]

Arrington24_7 Kyle Arrington
Don't hop back on the bandwagon later #fakefans

pffft...arrington...we're being critical of the play on the field. no one is saying we aren't supporting the team...

Fans wouldn't be pissed if you didn't suck huge balls Kyle. This Twitter post is so ironic. I love it.

[pathetic]

With the way that drive went, when it's 1st and 10 on the 15, just keep marching it down. It's the Giants, the TD at that point was pretty much guaranteed. That's twice they've lost now because of shitty clock management.

Though, on the other side, the D should have been able to stop the Manning sister.

not even close... they had to get in on 4th down as it is. you just have to focus on scoring a TD there.

[dduncan6er]

Fans wouldn't be pissed if you didn't suck huge balls Kyle. This Twitter post is so ironic. I love it.
The same fans he's bitching about you probably think he's good because he has 5 picks. :lol

[CrashDMB237]

The same fans he's bitching about you probably think he's good because he has 5 picks. :lol

Man, picks are such a misleading stat. Ty Law led the league when he was with the Jets. Ty Law also sucked when he was with the Jets. The more you get targeted, the more picks you're going to have. QBs target shitty defensive backs. I think Cromartie had like 4 picks through the first 4 weeks of this season... case and point :lol