New England Patriots

[rickyh24]

Dropping the butterfingers was not cool at all. He should have caught the ball but come on.

[rickyh24]

which is going to become 10 fifth round picks

They will use most of them with the new rookie contract situation.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Dropping the butterfingers was not cool at all. He should have caught the ball but come on.

were they wrapped? they would have been like heaven if i was there for that

[rickyh24]

were they wrapped? they would have been like heaven if i was there for that

:lol ya they were. People were there filling up bags with them.

[DMBstandUP1984]

They will use most of them with the new rookie contract situation.

i don't think younger will help this team on defense. obviously use the draft picks you have. but they need an experienced player in that backfield and also someone to get in the head of McCourty and figure out what happen to him this season.

[rickyh24]

i don't think younger will help this team on defense. obviously use the draft picks you have. but they need an experienced player in that backfield and also someone to get in the head of McCourty and figure out what happen to him this season.

Younger can help the pass rush. I think they will go older with the secondary though. They may also need a key oline member.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Younger can help the pass rush. I think they will go older with the secondary though. They may also need a key oline member.

and a WR

[pathetic]

Brandon Lloyd

[rickyh24]

and a WR

I think they will go older in this instance too.

[DMBstandUP1984]

I think they will go older in this instance too.

Marques Colston would be a good fit. From what I hear he is a pretty quite reserved kind of guy which BB will love and clearly talented.

[dduncan6er]

Brandon Lloyd

Im pretty confident Lloyd will follow McDaniels and sign in NE.

[dduncan6er]

There are quite a few quality wide outs that'll be out there. Rather see them get someone with experience than draft a guy like Floyd with one of the first rounders.

[rickyh24]

Brandon Lloyd

:thumbsup:thumbsup Good chance this happens I would say. Franchise Welker at the least sign Llyod and try not to drop to 50 percent Superbowl success rate in the past 10 years.

[rickyh24]

There are quite a few quality wide outs that'll be out there. Rather see them get someone with experience than draft a guy like Floyd with one of the first rounders.

I have no problem with them drafting him but I still want an experienced guy too. They can get what they need for most other positions with their 2nd and 3rd round picks.

[dduncan6er]

I could be totally off base but I thought Moore looked really good on Sunday. Obviously the result sucked but he really stepped up in the playoffs and I think he can be a solid contributor next year.

[pathetic]

I liked what I saw out of Moore.

Need a pass rusher

[rickyh24]

Yeah I say draft the 2 best pass rushers you can in the first 2 rounds.

[NextMovement41]

trading Brady is retarded. he's still easily the best quarterback this side of 2000 and an all time great.

[smudge1]

i'm sure you do.

he looked about 40-50% out there. he's the best tight end in football and set records when he was healthy. that's my opinion. obviously you don't agree.He looks 80-90% here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8mAXFtEVDd8

[rickyh24]

He looks 80-90% here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8mAXFtEVDd8

Unless this is a video of him running full speed and cutting back and forth (which I doubt it is) you make no sense. Kind of beating a dead horse here though.

[AJF_41]

He looks 80-90% here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8mAXFtEVDd8

no shit. that video is amazing.

yo soy fiesta

[DMBstandUP1984]

if only he moved to the ball as quick as he did across the stage he might have caught the hail mary

[rickyh24]

Probably not.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Probably not.

maybe???

[rickyh24]

I'm willing to bet he tried his hardest.

[DynastyDrummer1]

"57 seconds..thats a lot of time Brees gets them down the field. Rodgers would get them down the field" - Brandon Jacobs

Oh come on, even Alex Smith can do that!

trading Brady is retarded. he's still easily the best quarterback this side of 2000 and an all time great.

uhh... Aaron Rodgers?! :ugh /sarcasm

For real though, as a Bills fan, please capitalize when our inept front office lets Stevie Johnson walk and sign him. I'd love to see him kick our ass twice a year. That'd be fantastic.....

[DMBstandUP1984]

I'm willing to bet he tried his hardest.

yeah, at the electric slide

[thebridge15]

What you do after the game doesn't negate what you did during the game.

[Ascf33]

first 3 rounds

1st Round (Pick 27)
1st Round (Pick 31)
2nd Round (Pick 48)
2nd Round (Pick 63)
3rd Round (Pick 94)

Wow. That is crazy. If even one of those picks pans out, you immediately improve a great team already.

[dduncan6er]

I'm hoping they actually decide to use the picks instead of trading down again. It also wouldnt totally shock me if BB decided to package a couple of them if he really likes a guy earlier in the 1st round.

[Ascf33]

The defensive talent that will be there at picks 27 and 31 is pretty scary.

[dduncan6er]

If the plan is to bring in Lloyd I'd like to see them grab a pass rusher and maybe a safety or corner. They could use another interior O-lineman as well. It'll be interesting to see if Dowling can get on the field next year. The guy was the first pick of the 2nd round and we didn't see much of him due to injuries. I'm excited to see what he can bring to the table.

[pathetic]

Wow. That is crazy. If even one of those picks pans out, you immediately improve a great team already.
:thumbsup TJ's best post ever!

[Ascf33]

No use denying it when you are SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS!!!1

[dduncan6er]

No use denying it when you are SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS!!!1

You got a ring?

[schreiber89]

Backreading this thread couldn't be any more perfect.

[thebridge15]

Home: San Francisco, Houston, Denver, Indianapolis, Arizona
Away: Baltimore, Tennessee, Seattle, Jacksonville, St. Louis

[pathetic]

anyone thinks there's a chance welkers not back here?

the critics say that you can throw anyone in the slot and be effective. i agree, but not welker type numbers. hopefully he takes a 3yr 24mil, but he really deserves 3/30

[schreiber89]

anyone thinks there's a chance welkers not back here?

the critics say that you can throw anyone in the slot and be effective. i agree, but not welker type numbers. hopefully he takes a 3yr 24mil, but he really deserves 3/30

Depends if Gisele has any influence or not

[pathetic]

Depends if Gisele has any influence or not

solid joke

[dduncan6er]

Home: San Francisco, Houston, Denver, Indianapolis, Arizona
Away: Baltimore, Tennessee, Seattle, Jacksonville, St. Louis

Outside of Baltimore it looks like the pats will be facing the better teams at home.

[schreiber89]

Outside of Baltimore it looks like the pats will be facing the better teams at home.

Yeah, Seattle on the road is usually a tough game though.

[thebridge15]

Yep. Looks like we'll end up getting tested during the season more than this year, which is a good thing.

[Ascf33]

You got a ring?

Really?

That's the come back you're going to use. Fans using "us" and "we"? Come on now.

[dduncan6er]

Really?

That's the come back you're going to use. Fans using "us" and "we"? Come on now.

You clearly did not see what I did there.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Gronk partying like a boss = totally allowed. I was drinking the tears back and I didn't even actually lose the Super Bowl.

[Ascf33]

You clearly did not see what I did there.

Ah... now iswydt.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Yep. Looks like we'll end up getting tested during the season more than this year, which is a good thing.

yea NFC West is full of powerhoues :rolleyes

[dduncan6er]

yea NFC West is full of powerhoues :rolleyes

Don't you have 4 favorite teams in the NFC West?

[pathetic]

Don't you have 4 favorite teams in the NFC West?

:lol depends on where peyton is going

[thebridge15]

yea NFC West is full of powerhoues :rolleyes
The schedule for next year is much stronger than this year's. Not sure how you can't agree to that.

[pathetic]

The schedule for next year is much stronger than this year's. Not sure how you can't agree to that.

because he hates the New England Patriots.

[dduncan6er]

I don't think you can really tell how strong the schedule is until the season starts. The schedule this year was supposed to be tough but a lot of teams that were supposed to be good shit the bed.

[pathetic]

I don't think you can really tell how strong the schedule is until the season starts. The schedule this year was supposed to be tough but a lot of teams that were supposed to be good shit the bed.

yeah this is true.

[DMBstandUP1984]

The schedule for next year is much stronger than this year's. Not sure how you can't agree to that.

no it is. i'm just talking shit.

Houston in there..more then likely you'll end up facing Peyton Manning if not in Indy then another place.

but like someone else said you never really know how tough it is until you're there.

[pathetic]

no it is. i'm just talking shit.

Houston in there..more then likely you'll end up facing Peyton Manning if not in Indy then another place.

but like someone else said you never really know how tough it is until you're there.

Right now, Houston is probably the toughest matchup. pending the health of their team.

[thebridge15]

Houston or San Fran. I wouldn't be that worried about Indy even if Peyton came back (which he won't).

[dduncan6er]

Peyton may land in Arizona or Miami though. He'll be much more dangerous with those 2 supporting casts.

[pathetic]

Houston or San Fran. I wouldn't be that worried about Indy even if Peyton came back (which he won't).

i dont think peyton will be playing, let alone back on the colts.

if he does, we'll see him next season, i just know it. Brady>Luck, i'll start it up now

[dduncan6er]

Indy won't be a rival anymore if Peyton leaves. I guess they're worried about being able to sell out games when he leaves. A local tv station had to buy seats to a couple games this year to avoid black outs.

[rickyh24]

I'm not sure you can count on Peyton for much next year even if he plays. Would like to see him do well just don't see it happening.

[rickyh24]

:lol jesus this tailgate has turned into an idiotic troll fest. It was cute when gocubs did it by himself for a while but now I feel like there are 20 knock off Gocubs around.

[Doors Allan Coe]

:lol jesus this tailgate has turned into an idiotic troll fest. It was cute when gocubs did it by himself for a while but now I feel like there are 20 knock off Gocubs around.

:lorraine:lorraine

I'm giving Brady free publicity! You guys should be happy Bradying is even in the same thread title as Tebowing! IMO Bradying > Tebowing. So +1 for you guys! Let's go Pats!

[UCFish]

:lorraine:lorraine

i'm giving brady free publicity! You guys should be happy bradying is even in the same thread title as tebowing! Imo bradying > tebowing. So +1 for you guys! Let's go pats!

+1.......

[gocubsgo3822]

:lorraine:lorraine

I'm giving Brady free publicity! You guys should be happy Bradying is even in the same thread title as Tebowing! IMO Bradying > Tebowing. So +1 for you guys! Let's go Pats!

+1 Tebow>Brady...

[dduncan6er]

Patriots system>every NFL qb to ever play

[gocubsgo3822]

Dan Marino is better than brady

[Ascf33]

fourisgreaterthanthree

[rickyh24]

At least a Giants fan has a reason to be trolling.

[Doors Allan Coe]

At least a Giants fan has a reason to be trolling.

I don't know about the other guys, but I'm not trolling.

I don't hate the Pats or Brady. I think they are both damn good. For fans who should be used to losing to the Giants in the Super Bowl, you're acting like it's the first time. If anything this time is you should be able to truly embrace and enjoy this moment. It only comes once every 4 years. Which isn't bad compared to Chicago winning the Super Bowl which seems to come once every 50 years.

[thebestauntie]

:lol jesus this tailgate has turned into an idiotic troll fest. It was cute when gocubs did it by himself for a while but now I feel like there are 20 knock off Gocubs around.
Gocubbing, it's what's for dinner. :lol

[rickyh24]

:lol :lol

[Lcsulla]

Take the source with a grain of salt but Tom was apparently not happy with Gisselle dumping on his teammates and let her know it.

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/shamed-brady-tells-gisele-%E2%80%9Czip-it%E2%80%9D

[RJ2kWJ]

Take the source with a grain of salt but Tom was apparently not happy with Gisselle dumping on his teammates and let her know it.

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/shamed-brady-tells-gisele-%E2%80%9Czip-it%E2%80%9D

What do you tell a Gisselle with two black eyes?

Nothing, Tom already told her twice.

[pathetic]

:lol steelers/jets fans calling into WEEI and saying, "pats lost because of karma from spygate" :lol these are people that don't know how to talk football.

come on...some of the worst steelers fans are in NE, i swear.

[dmbbearcat]

:lol The National Enquirer

[rickyh24]

I will definitely take that source with a grain of salt. I'm sure Tom wasn't happy about it though.

[AJF_41]

jacobs quote was awesome.

[pathetic]

Jacobs is an idiot

[Lcsulla]

:lol The National Enquirer

I believe I said it was not a reputable source and take it with some skepticism.

I will definitely take that source with a grain of salt. I'm sure Tom wasn't happy about it though.

I am sure he was not and I would not be at all surprised if he did have some words with her over her actions, they went against everything most players hold sacred.

[AJF_41]

Jacobs is an idiot

maybe. still a good quote though.

[AJF_41]

what about what rodney harrison said?

[AJF_41]

Poor Welker.

While Giants fans celebrated their victory at the Parade in New York City – Boston locals got a 900 pound sweet surprise courtesy of Pawngo in the center of Copley Square in the heart of Boston. 900 pounds, or 8,000 bars of Nestle Butterfingers were piled high with a sign entitled, “Thank you Wes Welker” - making everyone in the area stop to take pictures, grab a bar, and have a laugh.

[rickyh24]

^ Yeah that happened like 3 days ago. Company is dumb and was just looking to get publicity. Welker should have caught the ball but that was overboard.

[LisaH]

Poor Welker.

While Giants fans celebrated their victory at the Parade in New York City – Boston locals got a 900 pound sweet surprise courtesy of Pawngo in the center of Copley Square in the heart of Boston. 900 pounds, or 8,000 bars of Nestle Butterfingers were piled high with a sign entitled, “Thank you Wes Welker” - making everyone in the area stop to take pictures, grab a bar, and have a laugh.
That is so classless.

[dduncan6er]

The company got fined heavily for public dumping too.

[rickyh24]

what about what rodney harrison said?

Rodney Harrison isn't Gronk they have totally different mindsets. Gronk is a kid who played his ass off all year to only get to the Superbowl on half an ankle. I'm sure he is devastated players handle it different ways. I have no problem with him doing what he did. It was a private pats party that was setup before the game. Some players decided not to go and some did.

[dduncan6er]

I don't like the partying by the team afterwards but it is what it is. Those guys left it all out on the field. If they didn't I'd have a major problem with it.

[pathetic]

The company got fined heavily for public dumping too.

I heard menino was fighting for that.

Nobody messes with Res Weckler

[rickyh24]

I don't like the partying by the team afterwards but it is what it is. Those guys left it all out on the field. If they didn't I'd have a major problem with it.

If it was the whole team then I would definitley have an issue.

[Trippin4136]

You know who I'd like to share this Giants Super Bowl victory with?

UglyNakedGuy.

I bet he was crying in his Sam Adams Light on Sunday night.

[Ascf33]

You know who I'd like to share this Giants Super Bowl victory with?

UglyNakedGuy.

I bet he was crying in his Sam Adams Light on Sunday night.

:thumbsup

Miss that guy. He's been gone a few years now.

[pathetic]

UNG :lol

[Ascf33]

dude would create alter after alter and not even be coy about it. Get banned. come back two weeks later with another alter.

[Ascf33]

Matt Light usually does a pretty good job when it comes to containing a very good pass rusher...

:lol :lol

[pathetic]

dude would create alter after alter and not even be coy about it. Get banned. come back two weeks later with another alter.

i remember when i first started posting in the sox thread. he pm'd me with a warning about how horrible the yankees fans are :lol

[dduncan6er]

i remember when i first started posting in the sox thread. he pm'd me with a warning about how horrible the yankees fans are :lol

I wish someone would have done that for me.

[pathetic]

I wish someone would have done that for me.

:lol :lol

[Ascf33]

He and Jon got into some pretty epic battles over the years.

[pathetic]

"looked at gronk, looked at wes and he dropped, i had no place to throw it away and didnt want to throw a pick" brady to belichick after the safety

[rickyh24]

:lol :lol

Is this one funny because he actually made sense?

[Lcsulla]

dude would create alter after alter and not even be coy about it. Get banned. come back two weeks later with another alter.

God bless the ability to ban a subnet rather than an individual IP

[DMBstandUP1984]

"looked at gronk, looked at wes and he dropped, i had no place to throw it away and didnt want to throw a pick" brady to belichick after the safety

but then he says its a judgement call for the Ref to make that call.

so its lol and i suck and funny to take the blame when they win..but when they lose its a "judgement call"?

that was a 9 point swing..the game plan from the get go was just not working for the Patriots

They Giants shortest drive was 9 plays..so yes the defense got the stops but they were punting from almost half field each time. And if it was not for two drive crushing penatlies Giants probably would have been up 20-0. People can look to the Welker drop as much as they want..but too many men on the field, Ninkovich offsides (which was coming out of a timeout..he had what 3-4 mins to know where the ball was and to line up) and the saftey.

The Pats made the mistakes they never make, the kind that other teams make and it cost them the game.

[thebestauntie]

God bless the ability to ban a subnet rather than an individual IP
Amen. :lol I do not miss UNG.

[gonz085]

Serious question. Why was Underwood cut, then resigned?

[pathetic]

but then he says its a judgement call for the Ref to make that call.

so its lol and i suck and funny to take the blame when they win..but when they lose its a "judgement call"?

that was a 9 point swing..the game plan from the get go was just not working for the Patriots

They Giants shortest drive was 9 plays..so yes the defense got the stops but they were punting from almost half field each time. And if it was not for two drive crushing penatlies Giants probably would have been up 20-0. People can look to the Welker drop as much as they want..but too many men on the field, Ninkovich offsides (which was coming out of a timeout..he had what 3-4 mins to know where the ball was and to line up) and the saftey.

The Pats made the mistakes they never make, the kind that other teams make and it cost them the game.

it was a judgement call. if that was called an incomplete pass i doubt it would even be brought up that it should've been called a safety.

were you surrprised by eli's long drives? is that not what the defense has done all season? they've let up long drives that a lot of the times resulted in 0-3 points. you're right about the mistakes. pats made a few of them that they never make (offsides on 3rd down, 12 men on the field during a forced fumble, safety on grounding)

[pathetic]

Serious question. Why was Underwood cut, then resigned?

Belichick felt we needed depth areas other than WR. Underwood wouldn't have been active most likely anyway. the kid still got paid, and would've been eligible for a ring if they won.

oh and yesterday the pats offered him a contract. he made out pretty well, imo

[dduncan6er]

Serious question. Why was Underwood cut, then resigned?

Because he wasn't going to play and they wanted another guy they could use on special teams so Gronk wouldnt have to play on special teams.

[schreiber89]

Belichick felt we needed depth areas other than WR. Underwood wouldn't have been active most likely anyway. they kid still got paid, and would've been eligible for a ring if they won.

oh and yesterday the pats offered him a contract. he made out pretty well, imo

Yeah I think it was fine. His comments about it were really classy too.

[pathetic]

Yeah I think it was fine. His comments about it were really classy too.

agreed. very classy.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Because he wasn't going to play and they wanted another guy they could use on special teams so Gronk wouldnt have to play on special teams.

did the guy they signed play? i'm pretty sure he didn't

[dduncan6er]

Not sure but the guy was probably an insurance policy anyway in case another special teamer went down.

[pathetic]

did the guy they signed play? i'm pretty sure he didn't

nope, but he was active just in case...underwood wasn't even going to be active.

[AJF_41]

"This is still a Cruz-and-Nicks game," Belichick was heard saying in audio recorded for NFL Films. "I know we're right on them. It's tight, but those are still the guys. Make them go to Manningham, make them go to (Bear) Pascoe. Let's make sure we get Cruz and Nicks."

[dduncan6er]

What's wrong with that? You obviously want to take away their 2 best options in the passing game.

[rickyh24]

"This is still a Cruz-and-Nicks game," Belichick was heard saying in audio recorded for NFL Films. "I know we're right on them. It's tight, but those are still the guys. Make them go to Manningham, make them go to (Bear) Pascoe. Let's make sure we get Cruz and Nicks."

Would have planned it differently? It was the right game plan it just didn't work out.

[pathetic]

belichick's defense did exactly what he wanted them to do with the receivers. there's no defense for the perfect throw.

[schreiber89]

:lol this conversation is retarded. Bellichick said he was going to make Manningham beat them and that's what happened. You have to play the odds, there aren't any guarantees. His decision gave his team the best odds and they still lost. It's not worth any further discussion.

[rickyh24]

^ you just made the longest post about it bro.

[rickyh24]

A Bills fan with a "Bradying" avatar :lol :lol

[pathetic]

^ you just made the longest post about it bro.

:lol :lol

[schreiber89]

A Bills fan with a "Bradying" avatar :lol :lol

F you man. The Patriots occasionally losing is all us Bills fans have left.

[rickyh24]

F you man. The Patriots occasionally losing is all us Bills fans have left.

Oh I understand. It's all fans of a many teams have left. I like getting a laugh from it.

[schreiber89]

There was plenty of Bradying going on in week 3 of this season anyways at the Ralph. In my mind, it's still week 3.

[pathetic]

There was plenty of Bradying going on in week 3 of this season anyways at the Ralph. In my mind, it's still week 3.

followed closely by fitzpatricking*..

*fitzpatricking - quit competing once you get paid

[DMBstandUP1984]

"This is still a Cruz-and-Nicks game," Belichick was heard saying in audio recorded for NFL Films. "I know we're right on them. It's tight, but those are still the guys. Make them go to Manningham, make them go to (Bear) Pascoe. Let's make sure we get Cruz and Nicks."


playing chess...

[schreiber89]

followed closely by fitzpatricking*..

*fitzpatricking - quit competing once you get paid

:lol I'd argue its "quit competing once you realize you're actually not good"

In my drunken bliss after that week 3 game I booked a hotel room in Buffalo for the week of the divisional playoff weekend. I got an email the week before from the Hilton Garden Inn saying they were looking forward to my stay, I was so confused :lol - My Dad was telling me, not only was I dumb enough to think they'd make the playoffs, I thought they'd have homefield advantage :lol

[rickyh24]

:lol :lol

[pathetic]

:lol :lol that's awesome

[Ascf33]

^ you just made the longest post about it bro.

:lol :lol

[pathetic]

belichick shot a 90 at spyglass yesterday.

[pathetic]

what do you guys think will happen to welker?

franchise? 3+yr contract? larry fitz type $?

i think they'll franchise him, which won't make him happy, but he'll get 9mil or so until the following season...idk though, coming off a 120 catch season and getting into his 30's might make him either want to cash in or settle for a nice lengthy contract. it'd be really nice to lock him up for 3/24

[dduncan6er]

They'll franchise him for sure. They'll see how he does next year and work out a deal from there.

[pathetic]

They'll franchise him for sure. They'll see how he does next year and work out a deal from there.

what if welker makes that catch? you think he easily gets a 3yr deal? i think he does, but i also agree that i think he'll be franchised now.

120 catches after shredding his knee a couple years ago is amazing. i hope he continues putting up huge numbers. he deserves a contract

[dduncan6er]

I think he gets franchised either way. With the way the pats operate I think they'd figure there's no way his value gets any higher than it is now so it won't hurt to wait another year to give him his contract.

[schreiber89]

If I'm Welker, I'd be pissed if I got the franchise tag

[dduncan6er]

No player likes getting franchised but I doubt Welker would create much of an issue about it.

[pathetic]

ya, he'll say something like, "of course i'd like a contract, but right now im happy to be a NE patriot"

[schreiber89]

He's just in such a dangerous spot in his career. Another knee injury would be the end of him probably. I know that's true for most guys but with the way he plays its especially true for him and he's at higher risk for an injury like that.

[dduncan6er]

He's just in such a dangerous spot in his career. Another knee injury would be the end of him probably. I know that's true for most guys but with the way he plays its especially true for him and he's at higher risk for an injury like that.

Right so from a business stand point does it make sense to give him a 3 year deal now when you can bring him back on a 1 year deal and then go from there?

[rickyh24]

I wish this team would have played as well as the Bears this year.

[pathetic]

I wish this team would have played as well as the Bears this year.

atleast we were more successful than them last season when we made our first round exit and they were in the NFC Championship game...it's all about better draft picks!

maybe we'll get the best of them next year :shrug

[rickyh24]

atleast we were more successful than them last season when we made our first round exit and they were in the NFC Championship game...it's all about better draft picks!

maybe we'll get the best of them next year :shrug

Going to the Superbowl kind of sucks. But Bill is smart enough that this team was able to do shittier than the Bears and still have better draft picks coming up.

[pathetic]

"we should trade brady to SF for willis and a first rounder" gocubsgo calling into WEEI now...

[schreiber89]

Right so from a business stand point does it make sense to give him a 3 year deal now when you can bring him back on a 1 year deal and then go from there?

No from a business stand point that absolutely should franchise him. Just feel bad for him because he could end up getting fucked. I think in general NFL players deserve to get paid better than they do.

[jaking1185]

I wish this team would have played as well as the Bears this year.

Don't we all? I wish my favorite team could have gone 8-8.

[Absolute34]

God I hate the Pats. Thanks for the good memories ya'll! Go Gronk! Dance brotha dance!

[rickyh24]

:lol absolute34 is the worst.

[Absolute34]

:lol absolute34 is the worst.
Think I could have been better in the 80's?

[smudge1]

Think I could have been better in the 80's?Doubt it.

[jaking1185]

Doubt it.

:lol

I know I was. So was the NBA and all the old cogers.

[Absolute34]

Regardless, this thread makes me feel better about myself. When I get down, the only thing that puts a smile on my face is thinking about Gronk, Giselle, Bradying, Rodney Harrison and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOQUyVLUZPA&feature=related

[rickyh24]

I hope someday I need a thread on the Internet to make me feel better about myself.

[AJF_41]

I hope someday I need a thread on the Internet to make me feel better about myself.

:lol:lol:lol

[dmbredsox36]

Well... I've stayed away from posting in here for the last week, gone through all the could've/should've scenarios from the game and now I'm just hoping they can get back to the SB and win one before Brady's done. This one was painful to swallow (twss), but it was a really fun season to be a part of. Just fell a few plays short.

With the draft/FA coming up, I'd really like to see BB acknowledge he needs speed on offense and for the Pats to go after a big FA like Williams or the like. A lot has to go right during the season, so they need a little luck as well, but hopefully they can be right back again next season and finish what they started.

How are the rest of the patriot fans doing?

[pathetic]

Well... I've stayed away from posting in here for the last week, gone through all the could've/should've scenarios from the game and now I'm just hoping they can get back to the SB and win one before Brady's done. This one was painful to swallow (twss), but it was a really fun season to be a part of. Just fell a few plays short.

With the draft/FA coming up, I'd really like to see BB acknowledge he needs speed on offense and for the Pats to go after a big FA like Williams or the like. A lot has to go right during the season, so they need a little luck as well, but hopefully they can be right back again next season and finish what they started.

How are the rest of the patriot fans doing?

finally getting over another tough superbowl loss and can't wait to get back!!

williams would be a beast with wilfork and carter up front. i cant even imagine getting him though. hopefully we'll draft well on the defensive side. need some secondary depth, but the i think we need to get to the QB more than anything.

85 most likely won't be back next year. if we can't land brandon lloyd, def try and get reggie wayne

[dduncan6er]

The carter injury concerns me heading into next year. He's not that young so he might lose a couple steps.

[pathetic]

The carter injury concerns me heading into next year. He's not that young so he might lose a couple steps.

well, he was only under contract last season right? hopefully he'll be back if he's healthy. he was cheap as hell. 1.5mil or something like that.

[jyxlyn5]

Wes Welker is signing with Arizona along with Peyton Manning and Piere garcon

Amar Eric Vawda

[dduncan6er]

Yea it was a 1 year deal. I imagine they'll bring him back. Unless they decide to do back to a 3-4 next year.

[dduncan6er]

Wes Welker is signing with Arizona along with Peyton Manning and Piere garcon

Amar Eric Vawda

Thanks for the inside info brah.

[dmbredsox36]

finally getting over another tough superbowl loss and can't wait to get back!!

williams would be a beast with wilfork and carter up front. i cant even imagine getting him though. hopefully we'll draft well on the defensive side. need some secondary depth, but the i think we need to get to the QB more than anything.

85 most likely won't be back next year. if we can't land brandon lloyd, def try and get reggie wayne

Yeah Wayne's an interesting option. A veteran WR could hopefully help out immediately while they try to develop (and keep) a new WR or two from the draft. I've also seen some people thinking Meachem would be a good fit from NO, which I like.

Williams would be a huge splash, something I don't see them doing, but I also think they know they have the space and need to make a solid/big impact signing or two, so that could be one of them. I hope they draft some young defensive talent that can help the pass rush. Like you said, that'd be a big help as well.

Lastly I completely understand just getting over the loss. Maybe it was the missed plays, maybe it was the great ride they had been on most of the season, but I haven't wanted to talk football and will definitely enjoy the relative quietness before FA begins, the draft comes along, etc. Kinda like recharging the batteries. Just thought I'd see how everyone else was doing and what you're hoping for as the offseason rolls around.

[pathetic]

Yeah Wayne's an interesting option. A veteran WR could hopefully help out immediately while they try to develop (and keep) a new WR or two from the draft. I've also seen some people thinking Meachem would be a good fit from NO, which I like.

Williams would be a huge splash, something I don't see them doing, but I also think they know they have the space and need to make a solid/big impact signing or two, so that could be one of them. I hope they draft some young defensive talent that can help the pass rush. Like you said, that'd be a big help as well.

Lastly I completely understand just getting over the loss. Maybe it was the missed plays, maybe it was the great ride they had been on most of the season, but I haven't wanted to talk football and will definitely enjoy the relative quietness before FA begins, the draft comes along, etc. Kinda like recharging the batteries. Just thought I'd see how everyone else was doing and what you're hoping for as the offseason rolls around.

i really like lloyd, but WAyne's durability has been incredible. he hasnt missed a game since his rookie season

a lot of randy moss talk on WEEI today lol maybe we can get him cheap. 1 yr 1 mil. straight cash homie

[dduncan6er]

I think they're done with Moss. Lloyd and Wayne seem much more likely to me. I'm concerned that Wayne has really lost a step though, but then again its hard to look good when you're playing with the joke QBs Indy had this year.

[pathetic]

I think they're done with Moss. Lloyd and Wayne seem much more likely to me. I'm concerned that Wayne has really lost a step though, but then again its hard to look good when you're playing with the joke QBs Indy had this year.

yeah, i agree about moss. it's funny though.

i agree about wayne too, but like you said, it's tough to give a 35year old a contract based on what he did with such bad qb's last season after putting up 80+/1100+ with peyton year in and year out

[dmbredsox36]

Yeah I don't think Moss is the direction they're gonna go. They parted ways once, I don't see him coming back like Branch. Maybe Lloyd or Wayne, then someone in the draft.

[rickyh24]

Wes Welker is signing with Arizona along with Peyton Manning and Piere garcon

Amar Eric Vawda

Or they will franchise him.

[pathetic]

who has a better chance (both longshots) of being on this team next year, ochocinco or moss?

[rickyh24]

Ocho......

[pathetic]

Ocho......

:lorraine

i miss moss' antics. i wish he was 2 years younger

[schreiber89]

Chris Carter was saying on Mike and Mike this morning that he thinks the Pats are the best fit for Moss. I really can't see that happening though.

[pathetic]

Chris Carter was saying on Mike and Mike this morning that he thinks the Pats are the best fit for Moss. I really can't see that happening though.

he also said moss could roll outta bed and run a 4.3 today if he had to.

[dduncan6er]

I'm surprised Carter said that. Everyone knows he's a huge Branch fan.

[pathetic]

I'm surprised Carter said that. Everyone knows he's a huge Branch fan.
:lol:lol

[dmbredsox36]

List of FA's, listed by position. Obviously a bunch of this will change with extensions and tags, but fun to look at nonetheless. I'd love to see the Pats make a big splash on both sides of the ball.

Link: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82706e3a/article/notable-nfl-free-agents-in-the-2012-class?module=HP11_cp

[thebridge15]

List of FA's, listed by position. Obviously a bunch of this will change with extensions and tags, but fun to look at nonetheless. I'd love to see the Pats make a big splash on both sides of the ball.

Link: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82706e3a/article/notable-nfl-free-agents-in-the-2012-class?module=HP11_cpWe should clearly sign Drew Brees.

[rickyh24]

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/football/patriots/view/20220220brandon_lloyd_shows_interest_in_patriots/srvc=home&position=also

[dduncan6er]

Sign me up. I also read something about Mario Williams being a possibility for the pats. The texans will have to franchise Foster and won't be able to pay him. However bringing in 2 guys like that is very unlike BB so I'm not getting my hopes up.

[pathetic]

i can't imagine williams on this team. that would change a lot

[pathetic]

looks like there's a good chance the steelers are going to lose Mike Wallace. i'd take him over lloyd

[dduncan6er]

Wed have to give up our first rounder if we sign hin. He's a RFA. Lloyd will be cheaper and won't cost a 1st rounder.

[pathetic]

Wed have to give up our first rounder if we sign hin. He's a RFA. Lloyd will be cheaper and won't cost a 1st rounder.

lloyd is an older guy, slower, and less athletic. i think going after wallace would be the better pick. sure, we lose a first rounder, but we have 2 and we'd really help our deep game with a proven player already. it also takes a lot away from the steelers

i'd take lloyd anyday though...i'd just rather have wallace.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Chris Carter was saying on Mike and Mike this morning that he thinks the Pats are the best fit for Moss. I really can't see that happening though.

if they want to sign a WR thats kind of a head case..there are many younger WRs they could sign to fill that void.

[artiej1120]

Honestly I'd be fine with them going after Wallace. You probably won't get a better player at #31, and the Pats have money to burn. The guy is a great receiver.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Honestly I'd be fine with them going after Wallace. You probably won't get a better player at #31, and the Pats have money to burn. The guy is a great receiver.

Pats need to save some money also..if they franchise Welker also within the next two season you got Gronk and Hernandez up and they will want big money if the continue to produce like they have been.

[dmbredsox36]

looks like there's a good chance the steelers are going to lose Mike Wallace. i'd take him over lloyd

To me, going after Mario Williams makes more sense then Wallace, just for the $ sake and I can't see BB and company investing a draft pick and that much money in a WR. I really really hope they go after Williams and then get a decent WR in the draft, and add a Safety or CB through FA. They were so close this year, and I think it's time they try loading up and getting the most out of these last 3 years with Brady.

[artiej1120]

To me, going after Mario Williams makes more sense then Wallace, just for the $ sake and I can't see BB and company investing a draft pick and that much money in a WR. I really really hope they go after Williams and then get a decent WR in the draft, and add a Safety or CB through FA. They were so close this year, and I think it's time they try loading up and getting the most out of these last 3 years with Brady.

Williams would cost about $11-13 million more a year

[dduncan6er]

Williams will be more expensive but you'll have a cost controlled 1st rounder as well if you sign him instead of Wallace. If they bring in Williams and Lloyd I'd be beyond happy.

[dduncan6er]

Wallace said in an interview this morning if he doesn't go back to the steelers he could see himself as a Patriot or 9er.

[jackisback24]

which means they'll sign Hines Ward.:lol

[rickyh24]

huh??????

[dmbredsox36]

I think he meant it as a funny jab that the Pats won't go after the top talent available, they'll go after the old, declining receiver and still have the same problems. :lol

And I meant to mention I know Williams would be more, but maybe they could structure it so it wouldn't be as big a cap hit initially, and they'd still have the first rounder. Idk, just trying to figure out how best to approach FA's and the draft.

[rickyh24]

http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21181091/report-ocho-asked-restructure-contract

[dduncan6er]

Are they seriously not going to cut him?

[pathetic]

interesting....

[DMBstandUP1984]

Pats expected to franchise Welker today

[DMBstandUP1984]

Go Patriots!

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/gallery/2012/patriots_cheerleader_tryouts/

[pathetic]

welker franchised, but he'll probably get a more "cap friendly" deal

[dmbredsox36]

I hope they can work out a deal to make the cap hit lower but still give him his due. 3 years, plenty guaranteed $ and then we can address the other needs on the team. Bring in Lloyd (seems like the most likely) or Meachem, draft a decent WR to develop, find a FA safety and get some pass rush help in the draft.

Granted, if that's what most people think, BB will draft more OL and RBs just to piss us off. :lol

[pathetic]

If this team doesn't go after Wallace I'll be disappointed, but I'll take Lloyd

[dduncan6er]

Wallace will be expensive and cost a first rounder. I'd rather see them throw a ton of money at Mario Williams.

[rickyh24]

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/427752_172013436248734_100003202367080_257421_9235 27185_n.jpg

[pathetic]

Wallace will be expensive and cost a first rounder. I'd rather see them throw a ton of money at Mario Williams.

What I don't get is when you select a WR in the first or second round, your hopes are he develops into a guy like like Wallace. Why not just use a first round pick him? He's already proven and he completes the offense by being able to stretch the field

[dduncan6er]

What I don't get is when you select a WR in the first or second round, your hopes are he develops into a guy like like Wallace. Why not just use a first round pick him? He's already proven and he completes the offense by being able to stretch the field
The main reason is money. A 1st rounder is cost controlled. But if they sign Lloyd I don't think they need to draft a WR this year anyway.

[pathetic]

If they get Wallace they don't need Llyod or another receiver bust in the draft.

Plus Wallace is younger and more talented

[dduncan6er]

I'd rather spend the money on the defense personally. If they can't get Williams then I'd target Wallace. But Williams is an absolute stud and fills a major need.

[pathetic]

Oh ya, Williams is priority #1, but I am not sure that's gonma happen. That'd be awesome though.

[jackisback24]

so they have roughly 4 picks in the first 50 spots overall, correct? They do have holes that need to be filled. Corner and a pass rusher would be great as would a linebacker.

[rickyh24]

Definitely going to take at least 2 running backs.

[pathetic]

Gotta trade the first pick, then select 2 RBs and a TE

[dmbredsox36]

Definitely going to take at least 2 running backs.

Gotta trade the first pick, then select 2 RBs and a TE

My thoughts exactly. Don't forget signing Randy Moss and drafting a WR and CB in the late rounds. :lol

[pathetic]

moss getting a workout with the saints today

[dduncan6er]

I think its a publicity thing. Takes some of the attention off bountygate.

[pathetic]

yeah probably. i hope there's video

[rickyh24]

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/64992_10150673400262682_38113052681_9199688_329812 000_n.jpg

[pathetic]

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/64992_10150673400262682_38113052681_9199688_329812 000_n.jpg

he's the best.

[rickyh24]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=172797829503628&set=p.172797829503628&type=1&theater

:lol Ocho.

[pathetic]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=172797829503628&set=p.172797829503628&type=1&theater

:lol Ocho.

:lol doesn't look like the FedEx guy, so he's fine

[thebestauntie]

Exchange between Ochocinco and Randy Moss on Twitter:

‏ @ochocinco (https://twitter.com/#%21/ochocinco): Check out my stats from last year for a laugh bruh RT @DaRealOtisMoss (https://twitter.com/#%21/DaRealOtisMoss): Anything good happen today?i need a good laugh from my twitter family

:lol :lol :lol

[rickyh24]

:lol :lol awesome

[DMBstandUP1984]

cool glasses bro http://www.boston.com/sports/blogs/obnoxiousbostonfan/2012/03/brady_glasses_celtics_lakers.html?camp=fb

[dduncan6er]

I agree. Brady was looking good yesterday.

[DMBstandUP1984]

I agree. Brady was looking good yesterday.

I had no idea who that even was, until I noticed the TB12 hat.

[pathetic]

FA day!

according to ian rapapport, Benny has an unnammed team highly interested in signing him. if that's true, the pats most likely won't fight for green-ellis.

[dduncan6er]

Sad to see him go but he's really just another guy. He got what the line blocked for him. Nothing more nothing less. His ball security will be missed though.

[pathetic]

Sad to see him go but he's really just another guy. He got what the line blocked for him. Nothing more nothing less. His ball security will be missed though.
ball security and i think he always got a couple yards more than he had to. he wasn't a guy to go out there and bust 20 yard runs, but if it was 3rd and 3 he'd give you 4 or 5. never fumbled and always worked hard. he deserved a ring just for his hard work

[dmbredsox36]

Yeah it's sad to see him go, but at the same time, maybe this means a more definitive shift to a quicker running game with Vereen/Ridley. The ball security will be missed by BJGE obviously, but maybe now the Pats can have a legitimate running game that compliments their passing game. They haven't had that in awhile.

[dduncan6er]

Wonder who the mystery team is. Maybe the Jets?

[dmbgodagirl41]

So Lee Evans works out at the gym where I work. he came in last night, no joke.

Me: Holy shit, you're Lee Evans. I love you.
Evans: Yeah....thanks, I appreciate that.
Me: I'm a Patriots fan, I seriously love you.
Evans: Whatever.

Apparently, that wasn't cool of me to say? No one in Baltimore loves you, dude, so what the fuck!

[thebestauntie]

So Lee Evans works out at the gym where I work. he came in last night, no joke.

Me: Holy shit, you're Lee Evans. I love you.
Evans: Yeah....thanks, I appreciate that.
Me: I'm a Patriots fan, I seriously love you.
Evans: Whatever.

Apparently, that wasn't cool of me to say? No one in Baltimore loves you, dude, so what the fuck!
Dude needs to get a sense of humor.

[pathetic]

you should've said, "lighten up bro, you're a millionaire"

[dmbgodagirl41]

Dude needs to get a sense of humor.

Seriously! I mean, yeah, he was cut from the Ravens or whatever, but come back with "Hey, good Super Bowl Win" or something. "Whatever"? BOOOOO you're boring.

you should've said, "lighten up bro, you're a millionaire"

Pretty much this.

[dmbredsox36]

Seriously, lighten up man. She could've brought up your TD drop, but she was just trying to be friendly!

Watch the Pats sign him.... :lol

[dduncan6er]

Kyle Love was tendered so he'll be back next year, and Brandon Lloyd is expected to be a Patriot by the end of the day.

[dmbredsox36]

Kyle Love was tendered so he'll be back next year, and Brandon Lloyd is expected to be a Patriot by the end of the day.

Saw the Love news, and not surprised with the Lloyd signing. It wasn't my ideal option, but it seemed the most logical given his background with McDaniels. I still hope they try and draft some young WRs (hello Greg Childs) to groom along in the process and don't cut before next season starts.

[dduncan6er]

Patriots are also said to be interested in packaging their 2 first rounders to move into the top 10. Just saw a tweet from a draft scout on this but I can't link it on my phone

[dmbredsox36]

Patriots are also said to be interested in packaging their 2 first rounders to move into the top 10. Just saw a tweet from a draft scout on this but I can't link it on my phone

Wow, that'd be such a different move for them. I like it! Maybe they feel they can get a difference maker up in the top 10 and still get their guys in the second. Very interesting. Thanks for the info.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Saw the Love news, and not surprised with the Lloyd signing. It wasn't my ideal option, but it seemed the most logical given his background with McDaniels. I still hope they try and draft some young WRs (hello Greg Childs) to groom along in the process and don't cut before next season starts.

Lloyd just doesn't seem like a Belichick guy. He has been on 5 times in 9 years and not a very "locker room friendly" kind of guy, according to the Boston Globe report from last week.

[dmbredsox36]

Glad the see the Pats signing big FA's, and by big FA's I mean special teamers. :roll eyes

I understand the Pats aren't one of the teams that jumps all over FA's on the first day, and considering some of the ridiculous contracts handed out, it's the right move. But, I'd still like them to see them sign upper level FA type. Sometimes a 'complimentary piece' isn't enough.

[dmbredsox36]

Lloyd just doesn't seem like a Belichick guy. He has been on 5 times in 9 years and not a very "locker room friendly" kind of guy, according to the Boston Globe report from last week.

Idk, I'm interested to see how it plays out. BB and McDaniels have to feel comfortable with Lloyd's familiarity with the offense. For a team that can't draft and develop a WR to save their lives, I'd think they'd weigh that more heavily then the other stuff. If Lloyd wants to play/win, he'd be wise to conform to the Patriot Way and just do his job.

[dduncan6er]

Lloyd worked well with McDaniels in Denver and he's said he really wants to play with Brady. Moss also wasn't a BB type and he worked out pretty well for a few years, so I'm not too worried about Lloyd. With that said he's meeting with SF today so I guess that report I saw yesterday was no good.

[pathetic]

these huge contracts being given to guys like garcon are gonna kill this team's chances of signing welker. he'll probably just get franchised again next year because this team won't give him 3years 30+ million

[pathetic]

starting to think llyod might not come here. it was pretty much a done deal that he'd be here, but with the money being thrown around to FA's i still say the pats go after wallace. 1st rounder and then lock him up

[dduncan6er]

Wallace is a possibility but I'm not sure he'll be willing to sign for what the pats will offer. I doubt he settles for much less than Jackson got and I can't see him getting that from BB.

[dmbredsox36]

these huge contracts being given to guys like garcon are gonna kill this team's chances of signing welker. he'll probably just get franchised again next year because this team won't give him 3years 30+ million

I feel the same way. At this point, because they couldn't come to an agreement before FA started, and now with all these ridiculous WR deals, I think they'll keep the tag on him next year unfortunately. I don't see another way around it, unless they can do a 2/3 year deal around 8-9 million and make some of it a signing bonus or something to reduce the cap hit. Idk.

starting to think llyod might not come here. it was pretty much a done deal that he'd be here, but with the money being thrown around to FA's i still say the pats go after wallace. 1st rounder and then lock him up

I think I'd almost rather see them spend the $ on defense then on Wallace. I know we need a vertical threat, but it seems like too much just to get him.

[pathetic]

I feel the same way. At this point, because they couldn't come to an agreement before FA started, and now with all these ridiculous WR deals, I think they'll keep the tag on him next year unfortunately. I don't see another way around it, unless they can do a 2/3 year deal around 8-9 million and make some of it a signing bonus or something to reduce the cap hit. Idk.



I think I'd almost rather see them spend the $ on defense then on Wallace. I know we need a vertical threat, but it seems like too much just to get him.

i think they offered him or wanted to offer him a 2yr 19mil or something around there. no way he takes that though :lol

they'll spend $ on defense, just not big name guys. with the money that willaims wants he can rot in buffalo for all i care. cortland finnegan 5yr 50mil. no way the pats spend that kind of money that the rams spent on him

[gonz085]

Lloyd would be a solid pickup

[DMBstandUP1984]

How much would they have to look at giving to Lloyd for salary/years

with all these receivers getting signed for big money like Garcon who is not even half the WR Welker is..don't you think all this did was up the ante for what Welker is going to be looking for? They should have just settled on a contract with Welker instead of placing the franchise tag on him. Welker still has never been paid big as an NFL player there is only so far the hometown discount can go.

[pathetic]

Former colts WR Anthony Gonzalez is meeting with the pats today

[DMBstandUP1984]

Former colts WR Anthony Gonzalez is meeting with the pats today

oooh that Anthony Gonzalez i heard that report this morning but I couldn't place a face/team with the name.

had a huge year in '08 but lots of problems with injuries since mostly used as a slot receiver