New England Patriots

[rickyh24]

why are you so rattled, schreiber89?

It wont work! just shut up!

[pathetic]

It wont work! just shut up!

point taken!!!

[schreiber89]

they'll be fine. he's not a real running back, so you won't see him run the ball all that much. he'll be back there plenty though.

why are you so rattled, schreiber89?

I'm not going to say it, but you know I'm upset.

[pathetic]

why are callers on weei saying we should sign cedric benson? :lol makes absolutely no sense. thsi is the 3rd person to mention it. they would've just brought back benny if they needed a guy like benson.

still got vereen, ridley, and woodhead. probably sign a veteran too for a cheap 1 year deal

[schreiber89]

How much do you think Benson will get?

[pathetic]

How much do you think Benson will get?

more than benny. he's rushed for 3 straight 1000 yard seasons. pats wouldnt look twice at him because of his fumble issues and off field issues.

i say a team gives his 3yr/18mil. he'll be 30 next season though. we'll see

[schreiber89]

more than benny. he's rushed for 3 straight 1000 yard seasons. pats wouldnt look twice at him because of his fumble issues and off field issues.

i say a team gives his 3yr/18mil. he'll be 30 next season though. we'll see

Damn. No way would I give him that kid of money given the two issues you pointed out. I'd pay more for the law firm at this point.

[pathetic]

Damn. No way would I give him that kid of money given the two issues you pointed out. I'd pay more for the law firm at this point.

i think benny got 3/12 right?

you just know some team with a dumb FO will give him money

[pathetic]

this would def rattle jets fans, but it think this is the beginning of the end of the Rex Ryan era in NY. we'll never ever see the jets as complete and ready to win as they were with that great defense a couple years ago. a true superbowl caliber QB was what stood in their way of winning.

[thebridge15]

So Green-Ellis signed with the Bengals.

[rickyh24]

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/7734692/chad-ochocinco-new-england-patriots-restructures-contract-source-says

[pathetic]

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/7734692/chad-ochocinco-new-england-patriots-restructures-contract-source-says

i like it

$1million is worth giving him a shot a full training camp. they'll probably end up just cutting him if he doesn't work out early

[rickyh24]

I feel like this team has way too many wrs right now.

[thebridge15]

I feel like this team has way too many wrs right now.
Nah Gronk and Hernandez don't count, remember?

[rickyh24]

Nah Gronk and Hernandez don't count, remember?

:lol:lol

[schreiber89]

this would def rattle jets fans, but it think this is the beginning of the end of the Rex Ryan era in NY. we'll never ever see the jets as complete and ready to win as they were with that great defense a couple years ago. a true superbowl caliber QB was what stood in their way of winning.

Agreed. Tebow trade is retarded. He is going to be a disaster in NY.

[rickyh24]

http://www.necn.com/03/25/12/Welker-extension-talks-could-happen-this/landing_sports.html?blockID=676702&feedID=3352

[rickyh24]

http://www.csnne.com/blog/standing-room-only/post/Forte-to-the-Pats?blockID=678008&feedID=9961

[dduncan6er]

I doubt it'll happen but I'd be pumped if it did. Great pass catching back.

[rickyh24]

I can't see the Pats paying him.

[DMBstandUP1984]

they should really hold on to on their pics and build on the defense. if week 1 started this sunday their defense is worse then it was last year. Still no real replacement for Anderson and who knows if Carter will be healthy. On offense I would just roll with what they have, didn't they lead the NFL in scoring or at least close to it? Not much has changed on offense between adding like 5 WRs so they are still going to run the table offense wise...

[dmbredsox36]

As much as I'd love them to have an elite RB, I'm hopeful Vereen and Ridley can provide that combo at a much cheaper price. I think the Pats could do even more damage with a potent rushing game and pass catching RB's in this offense. Is the offseason over yet? :lol

I do hope they invest their draft picks on defense. It won't surprise me if BB goes OL with their first pick, trades the next one and then loads up on D.

[abbotter88]

So which WR's are making the team?

I figure they'll carry 6, counting Slater.

So the locks:

Welker
Lloyd
Branch
Slater

That leaves two spots for Edelman/Ocho/Gonzalez/Stallworth/Rookies

I really don't understand the signing off all those WR's, they probably need to draft a WR to get a little younger at the position, so you figure that takes one of the roster spots. Unless someone gets a fake injury and is stashed on the PUP list or something...three of edelman/ocho/gonzalez/stallworth are most likely not making the team

My guess is Welker, Lloyd, Branch, Slater, Edelman, Rookie....but then...why restructure ocho, and sign gonzalez/stallworth?? IT DONT MAKE NO SENSE

[rickyh24]

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/7806447/2012-nfl-free-agency-kevin-faulk-retire-wants-return-new-england-patriots

[thebridge15]

http://www.patriots.com/news/article-1/Patriots-2012-Schedule-Announced/905f0f14-0115-420c-a677-9e90869f11f8

Four primetime games. Two on Sunday (San Francisco and Baltimore), one on MNF (Houston) and one on Thursday (NYJ).

[dduncan6er]

I'm very surprised the Broncos game isn't a prime time game. Also a lot more 1:00 games than last year. I think we only had like 4 last year.

[pathetic]

MNF late in the season

[thebridge15]

I'm very surprised the Broncos game isn't a prime time game. Also a lot more 1:00 games than last year. I think we only had like 4 last year.
I hardly remember any. Which was great for me, living with three Panthers fans last year, that we could watch that game at 1 and then usually I could watch the Pats game in peace at 4.

[dduncan6er]

2 prime time games in December. People are going to freeze their asses off.

[dduncan6er]

Is that Jets game the Thanksgiving night game? Or is Thanksgiving the week after?

[thebridge15]

That's Thanksgiving.

[dduncan6er]

Nice I like that a lot. I love watching the Pats on Thanksgiving. Rex might be too busy stuffing his face all day to gameplan too.

[thebridge15]

Yea that's gonna be a really fun game, especially since we're playing the Jets.

[rickyh24]

Sunday, Sept. 9..........at Tennessee.................1:00 p.m. ET........WBZ...............CBS
Sunday, Sept. 16........Arizona...........................1:00 p.m. ET........WFXT..............FOX
Sunday, Sept. 23........at Baltimore...................8:20 p.m. ET........WHDH............NBC
Sunday, Sept. 30........at Buffalo........................1:00 p.m. ET........WBZ...............CBS
Sunday, Oct. 7............Denver.............................4: 15 p.m. ET.......WBZ...............CBS
Sunday, Oct. 14.........at Seattle........................4:05 p.m. ET........WBZ...............CBS
Sunday, Oct. 21..........New York Jets................4:15 p.m. ET........WBZ...............CBS
Sunday, Oct. 28.........at St. Louis (London)......1:00 p.m. ET........WBZ...............CBS
Sunday, Nov. 4............BYE WEEK
Sunday, Nov. 11..........Buffalo.............................1: 00 p.m. ET........WBZ..............CBS
Sunday, Nov. 18..........Indianapolis....................1:00 p.m. ET........WBZ..............CBS*
Thursday, Nov. 22.......at New York Jets.............8:20 p.m. ET.......WHDH...........NBC
Sunday, Dec. 2.............at Miami..........................1:00 p.m. ET........WBZ.............CBS*
Monday, Dec. 10..........Houston..........................8:30 p.m. ET........WCVB...........ESPN
Sunday, Dec. 16...........San Francisco................8:20 p.m. ET........WHDH...........NBC*
Sunday, Dec. 23...........at Jacksonville...............1:00 p.m. ET........WBZ..............CBS*
Sunday, Dec. 30...........Miami..............................1: 00 p.m. ET........WBZ..............CBS*


I bolded the games this team should win.

[pathetic]

Rex will dispute the thanksgiving day game

[rickyh24]

lol at the oct 21st to nov 22 stretch. Thats like 6 bye weeks.

edit: throw dec 2nd in there too.

[dduncan6er]

We all know the kids table will be filled at Cromartie's Thanksgiving.

[thebridge15]

:lol the Miami game's gonna be funny at my house. Last year I had to avoid my brother all day (he's a passionate Dolphins fan).

[pathetic]

lol at the oct 21st to nov 22 stretch. Thats like 6 bye weeks.

:lol:lol

We all know the kids table will be filled at Cromartie's Thanksgiving.

:lol and two on the way!

[joshizzle3]

I will see you all on October 7th. Can't wait.

[thebridge15]

Indy game should be a real laugher.

[thebestauntie]

I bolded the games this team should win.
:lol :lol :lol

[DMBstandUP1984]

is there one team in the NFL that gets a more favorable schedule year in and year out than the New England Patriots?

[schreiber89]

is there one team in the NFL that gets a more favorable schedule year in and year out than the New England Patriots?

I hate the Patriots more than anyone in the universe but I don't understand this comment. The schedule is not made by a selection committee or something, it is based on your division and what place you finished in the previous year.

[rickyh24]

is there one team in the NFL that gets a more favorable schedule year in and year out than the New England Patriots?

:lol you bring the smarts.

[thebestauntie]

is there one team in the NFL that gets a more favorable schedule year in and year out than the New England Patriots?
You're right, the Patriots should have to play 3 other teams twice a year because the teams in their division suck. It's not fair to the rest of the league. :rolleyes

[smudge1]

It's all good until you go to the Superbowl and lose again.

[DMBstandUP1984]

numbers don't lie

http://www.nflschedulesupersite.com/2012-nfl-strength-of-schedule/

Patriots ranked 32nd for toughest 2012 schedule.

[schreiber89]

That's because everyone else in the AFC East is awful :lol

You want them to change the Pats division for this season?

edit: that is the definition of numbers lying :lol I hate you for making me defend the patriots

[DMBstandUP1984]

looks like my point is still 100% true.

[rickyh24]

Justin is just a mad colts/cowboys/jets/broncos fan.

[crashintonickdm]

Sunday, Sept. 9..........at Tennessee.................1:00 p.m. ET........WBZ...............CBS
Sunday, Sept. 16........Arizona...........................1:00 p.m. ET........WFXT..............FOX
Sunday, Sept. 23........at Baltimore...................8:20 p.m. ET........WHDH............NBC
Sunday, Sept. 30........at Buffalo........................1:00 p.m. ET........WBZ...............CBS
Sunday, Oct. 7............Denver.............................4: 15 p.m. ET.......WBZ...............CBS
Sunday, Oct. 14.........at Seattle........................4:05 p.m. ET........WBZ...............CBS
Sunday, Oct. 21..........New York Jets................4:15 p.m. ET........WBZ...............CBS
Sunday, Oct. 28.........at St. Louis (London)......1:00 p.m. ET........WBZ...............CBS
Sunday, Nov. 4............BYE WEEK
Sunday, Nov. 11..........Buffalo.............................1: 00 p.m. ET........WBZ..............CBS
Sunday, Nov. 18..........Indianapolis....................1:00 p.m. ET........WBZ..............CBS*
Thursday, Nov. 22.......at New York Jets.............8:20 p.m. ET.......WHDH...........NBC
Sunday, Dec. 2.............at Miami..........................1:00 p.m. ET........WBZ.............CBS*
Monday, Dec. 10..........Houston..........................8:30 p.m. ET........WCVB...........ESPN
Sunday, Dec. 16...........San Francisco................8:20 p.m. ET........WHDH...........NBC*
Sunday, Dec. 23...........at Jacksonville...............1:00 p.m. ET........WBZ..............CBS*
Sunday, Dec. 30...........Miami..............................1: 00 p.m. ET........WBZ..............CBS*


I bolded the games this team should win.

:lol:lol

[DMBstandUP1984]

Justin is just a mad colts/cowboys/jets/broncos fan.

who each have the 14/11/20/2 toughest schedule. Giants have the toughest.

[rickyh24]

who each have the 14/11/20/2 toughest schedule. Giants have the toughest.

Yay!!!!! Enjoy.

[crashintonickdm]

pats will tebowed at least once this year.

[dduncan6er]

is there one team in the NFL that gets a more favorable schedule year in and year out than the New England Patriots?

Conspiracy!!!1!

[DMBstandUP1984]

Conspiracy!!!1!

Yup and still true. They don't even leave the east coast the second half of the season, and their toughest games are at home. with the exception of the Ravens game.

Can't wait to see Andrew Luck carve up their steel curtain D though.

[dduncan6er]

Clearly Kraft is bffs with the schedule makers.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Who has two thumbs and is spending Christmas in Jacksonville and seeing the Patriots play on the 23rd? THIS GIRL.

Also, I love the NFL and their ability to hand us at least a 13-3 record this year. BOOM.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Clearly Kraft is bffs with the schedule makers.

I'm not saying this is the Patriots fault, just saying its the easiest schedule in the NFL. which it is

fact not opinion

[dduncan6er]

And I also can't believe their 1 west coast game is in the first half of the season. The fix is in!

[dmbgodagirl41]

And I also can't believe their 1 west coast game is in the first half of the season. The fix is in!

As long as we beat the Ravens, who gives a shit.:lol

[dduncan6er]

I'm not saying this is the Patriots fault, just saying its the easiest schedule in the NFL. which it is

fact not opinion

Maybe if one of your favorite teams could step it up the division wouldn't be so weak.

[schreiber89]

Who has two thumbs and is spending Christmas in Jacksonville and seeing the Patriots play on the 23rd? THIS GIRL.

Also, I love the NFL and their ability to hand us at least a 13-3 record this year. BOOM.

You are dumb. Very, very dumb.

[dmbgodagirl41]

You are dumb. Very, very dumb.

Coming from a guy who stuck his dick in a bike chain, I'll take this as a compliment. :D

[schreiber89]

Coming from a guy who stuck his dick in a bike chain, I'll take this as a compliment. :D

:lol:lol touche

[dmbredsox36]

Anyone have suggestions on getting tickets to a home game when the time comes? My wife bought us tickets last year for our first anniversary/first game, but she paid way too much for them.

Also, can't wait to see how many Bills/Jets games I have to suffer through instead of Pats games. That's what I get for living here.

[dduncan6er]

Stubhub can actually be surprisingly reasonable depending on the seat location. Also keep an eye on Boston Craigslist people let tickets go for face on there sometimes.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Anyone have suggestions on getting tickets to a home game when the time comes? My wife bought us tickets last year for our first anniversary/first game, but she paid way too much for them.

Also, can't wait to see how many Bills/Jets games I have to suffer through instead of Pats games. That's what I get for living here.

I second the stubhub suggestion as well as Craigslist. A lot of people, towards the end of the season, won't go to games, especially if it's a lock that the Pats have the division or not.

And as a Pats fan living in Baltimore, I feel your pain.

[dmbredsox36]

Side note: Why is Bruschi saying how much worse off the Pats are with BJGE gone on offense and having zero confidence in Vereen/Ridley. Did I miss something or what? BJGE would get you 3 yards a carry, no long runs, no out of the backfield catches, no real threat. So he didn't fumble and could find the end zone on occasion from short distances. I'll take 2 explosive backs who will actually pose a threat to defenses any day of the week.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Not sure, but I bet it's Matt Light's fault.

[thebridge15]

I blame the secondary.

[dmbredsox36]

Stubhub can actually be surprisingly reasonable depending on the seat location. Also keep an eye on Boston Craigslist people let tickets go for face on there sometimes.

Thanks. I didn't help her find the tickets last year (and it was the Giants game) so I'm not sure where she found them, but I'd like to have a couple searching options for something reasonable. The seats were fairly good, but I'd be willing to move up if it meant saving some money.

And as a Pats fan living in Baltimore, I feel your pain.

It's awful. As the season gets closer I'll start comparing the Bills/Jets/Pats schedules to see if I even have a chance to watch the Pats games. I wish the NFL had a package like MLB.tv or NHL where I could subscribe to it online, on my iPad/AppleTV or something like that. Anyone know why they don't do that? Exclusive deals with DirectTV?

[dduncan6er]

Yea I'm pretty sure the Sunday Ticket is an exclusive deal with Directv.

[drop2d]

I think you can get Sunday Ticket through the PS3 also.

[dmbredsox36]

Yea I'm pretty sure the Sunday Ticket is an exclusive deal with Directv.

That's what I've figured. It's too bad, I'd give them my $ in a second if they had a similar off like MLB.

Oh well, I'll continue finding the games online for free, even if they're a little pixelated. :lol

[pathetic]

Side note: Why is Bruschi saying how much worse off the Pats are with BJGE gone on offense and having zero confidence in Vereen/Ridley. Did I miss something or what? BJGE would get you 3 yards a carry, no long runs, no out of the backfield catches, no real threat. So he didn't fumble and could find the end zone on occasion from short distances. I'll take 2 explosive backs who will actually pose a threat to defenses any day of the week.

he's probably talking more about turnovers. vereen is unproven. ridley's shown he's more of an exclusive back than benny, but benny never gave the ball up. that means a lot when you have an offense like the pats.

[dmbredsox36]

he's probably talking more about turnovers. vereen is unproven. ridley's shown he's more of an exclusive back than benny, but benny never gave the ball up. that means a lot when you have an offense like the pats.

But even that; obviously no turnovers are a huge plus, but if the trade off is that the offense is much more dynamic and you have that home run threat at the expense of a few fumbles, why not? It's not like the elite RBs in the league don't fumble from time to time.

Besides, with McDaniels back, the offense will be scoring enough to afford a fumble once in awhile. :cool

[pathetic]

But even that; obviously no turnovers are a huge plus, but if the trade off is that the offense is much more dynamic and you have that home run threat at the expense of a few fumbles, why not? It's not like the elite RBs in the league don't fumble from time to time.

Besides, with McDaniels back, the offense will be scoring enough to afford a fumble once in awhile. :cool

i do agree, just saying that when you have a passing offense as dynamic as the pats, an exclusive running back isn't needed as much as a guy who can get the tough yards, move the chains, and keep the ball so brady can dictate who scores.

i'll be interested in seenig how they utilize both young backs along with woodhead, faulk and hernandez in the backfield

[dduncan6er]

I hope they don't bring Faulk back. I love the guy but he's cooked. Waste of a roster spot imo.

[pathetic]

I hope they don't bring Faulk back. I love the guy but he's cooked. Waste of a roster spot imo.

look at the amount of players between rb/wr they have :lol

theres gonna be a fews guys left out. probably stallworth, faulk, ocho. i'd say Tiquan Underpants, but for BB seems to like him

[pathetic]

who knows? woodhead might be left off this season. or edelman

[dmbredsox36]

i do agree, just saying that when you have a passing offense as dynamic as the pats, an exclusive running back isn't needed as much as a guy who can get the tough yards, move the chains, and keep the ball so brady can dictate who scores.

i'll be interested in seenig how they utilize both young backs along with woodhead, faulk and hernandez in the backfield

Yeah I understand about their offense as it is. I'm hoping they get a little more two dimensional so it's not all on Brady's arm. Even a fair/decent running game will keep defenses honest and open things up even more for Brady and company. I'm really looking forward to seeing what the RBs have.

I hope they don't bring Faulk back. I love the guy but he's cooked. Waste of a roster spot imo.

God I hope not. Considering all the WRs they'll have, the FB and third TE, there's just no room for him. Make him a RB coach or something.

[thebestauntie]

Yeah I understand about their offense as it is. I'm hoping they get a little more two dimensional so it's not all on Brady's arm. Even a fair/decent running game will keep defenses honest and open things up even more for Brady and company. I'm really looking forward to seeing what the RBs have.



God I hope not. Considering all the WRs they'll have, the FB and third TE, there's just no room for him. Make him a RB coach or something.
I'm with you, I'd rather see a more balanced attack on offense. We need a stronger running game to keep the defenses honest.

[thebridge15]

Katie's gotta be thrilled with all this Matt Light news.

[abbotter88]

Not that the Light news is suprising, but offensive line appears to be a big need that no one is talking about. I could see them taking a guy like Cordy Glenn G/T at #27 (if he's still around). Either way, I think BB is drafting an O-Lineman early this year.

[dduncan6er]

I think they go O-line in the first round too. And I think this may actually be the year where they use both 1st rounders. I think they'll end up trading one or both of the 2nd rounders though.

[pathetic]

i'll miss Matt Light. so will brady

[abbotter88]

i'll miss Matt Light. so will brady


I'm a big Solder fan, and I think he will be a stud here for 10 years...but Light was a rock for so long. Definitely a blow.

[abbotter88]

I think they go O-line in the first round too. And I think this may actually be the year where they use both 1st rounders. I think they'll end up trading one or both of the 2nd rounders though.

Wouldn't be suprised. If I had to bet though, I'd say they trade that second 1st down to the middle of the second and pick up a 4th/5th and a pick in 2013.

Not picking after the 4th doesn't seem very BB-esque to me, and we know how he likes to leverage current picks to picks in the following year.

[pathetic]

I'm a big Solder fan, and I think he will be a stud here for 10 years...but Light was a rock for so long. Definitely a blow.

i like solder, i hope he has a long healthy career

[dduncan6er]

Another thing worth noting is Vollmer wasn't that great last year. They'll need more out of him. I think Solder will take a big step forward this year. In the 3rd round I think we'll see them grab a Guard or Center as well.

[abbotter88]

With Waters back the situation on the o-line is a little better.

RT: Vollmer/Cannon
RG: Waters
C: Connolly
LG: Mankins
LT: Solder

Mankins might not be ready for the start of the season, in that scenario, looks like Gallery or Cannon would play LG

If Waters retires the situation gets a little more dicey, and a first round G/T is almost a must. No mankins for the start of the year means you open up with Gallery and Connolly as starting guards with Koppen at center, coming off a terrible injury. Vollmer can't stay healthy either.

[pathetic]

welker says he wants a longterm deal and will not attend pats mini camp if there's no talk of a longterm deal

[DMBstandUP1984]

welker says he wants a longterm deal and will not attend pats mini camp if there's no talk of a longterm deal

good for him.

[dduncan6er]

I expect he'll be walking after this year. They aren't going to give him a Larry Fitzgerald type deal if that's what he wants.

[jackisback24]

any word on Joseph Addai, Ryan Grant, etc?

[abbotter88]

any word on Joseph Addai, Ryan Grant, etc?


Hightower and Grant were definitely worked out...not sure about Addai. They both left without deals, that's the last I heard.

I'd love to see Grant or Hightower. A veteran prescence would be great for the young guys in the backfield, and provide another option for between the tackles/ goaline running.

[drop2d]

Willie McGinnest :lol

http://weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21194166/mcginest-rips-welker-diva-attitude

[dmbgodagirl41]

Matt Light PLACED ON RETIRED LIST!??!
AIAOTPOUTIOPAEUIOT&uTHieh;ialouewigfjdKLTUIOAE)&*(4850q924yu3ioauw4etklae;fajsdfklausePTIOUTEIOTUE IOTUIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:multi :multi

Boom shakka lakka!!
THIS AIN'T LIGHT'S HOUSE!

[smudge1]

Matt Light PLACED ON RETIRED LIST!??!
AIAOTPOUTIOPAEUIOT&uTHieh;ialouewigfjdKLTUIOAE)&*(4850q924yu3ioauw4etklae;fajsdfklausePTIOUTEIOTUE IOTUIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:multi :multi

Boom shakka lakka!!
THIS AIN'T LIGHT'S HOUSE!there's better things to talk about Katie.
http://www.ridethepine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/brady2__1334971244_6432.jpg

[dmbgodagirl41]

:lol that was on my FB page yesterday. Good christ, Tommy. What the fuck. :BANG

[thebestauntie]

Matt Light PLACED ON RETIRED LIST!??!
AIAOTPOUTIOPAEUIOT&uTHieh;ialouewigfjdKLTUIOAE)&*(4850q924yu3ioauw4etklae;fajsdfklausePTIOUTEIOTUE IOTUIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:multi :multi

Boom shakka lakka!!
THIS AIN'T LIGHT'S HOUSE!
Hahahahaha, I almost texted you last night when I saw this on NESN, but it was after midnight. :lol

[pathetic]

hopefully the line can mesh early with the loss of light. he had a great career with the pats. brady owes a lot of his success to guys like light.

[dmbredsox36]

Looking forward to the draft tomorrow; hopefully the reviews/reading I've done on some of the candidates won't be completely wasted. :lol

As for Wes, I absolutely love him as a player and hope this is just tough guy talk and that he shows up over the summer for camp. He's 31 years old, smaller in size and blew out his knee a little over 2 years ago. If he wants 10m/year for 3-4 years, he better watch out for two other slot receivers who BB could plug into the system. (Obviously this is a bit exaggerated, but you get my point)

I say try to get it around 7-8 million over 3 years with whatever guaranteed and call it a day. Brady's contract is up then too right?

[rickyh24]

Your point is valid. As much as I hate to admit it who was Wes Welker before Tom Brady and Bill?

[dmbredsox36]

Your point is valid. As much as I hate to admit it who was Wes Welker before Tom Brady and Bill?

Exactly, and that's my biggest thing with this whole deal. I'm a shorter/smaller sized guy and I love Wes for what he's done and the way he plays. He brings it every play. But at the same time, as much as I hate to say it, he's been hugely helped by the Pats system and how it's run. Not to take anything away from him, but I'd be willing to bet that Brady could have similar (not exact) results with another slot receiver like Edelman or Gonzalez, if he could actually stay on the field, and they'd be just as dangerous.

Wes is using this hold out as his leverage, but the Pats have leverage themselves. If I was him, I'd take that reported 2 year/10 mil deal and call it a day, or just ask to up the guaranteed money.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Your point is valid. As much as I hate to admit it who was Wes Welker before Tom Brady and Bill?

i've been saying it for years..Wes Welker is not Wes Welker anywhere else but NE

[abbotter88]

Welker and the Pat's 3rd/4th rounder to the Rams for Amendola and a 2nd. Send #27 to the Vikings for Jared Allen.

Left with:

Amendola
Allen
#31
#33 (or #39, Rams have two seconds)
#48
#62
#126

BOOM.

[rickyh24]

Welker and McGinest in a good old fashion twitter battle.

[dduncan6er]

McGinest might be the only person in the world that thinks Welker is a diva.

[pathetic]

i've been saying it for years..Wes Welker is not Wes Welker anywhere else but NE

but no one else puts up 120 1500 like welker. i don't care who is in the slot position. i wouldn't give him 4 years, but stop acting like any other slot receiver could put up anything close to those numbers cuz it's really dumb

McGinest might be the only person in the world that thinks Welker is a diva.

lol this. wtf is he talking about?

[rickyh24]

I hope they use these first rounders.

[drop2d]

McGinest might be the only person in the world that thinks Welker is a diva.

To be fair, he didn't straight out call him a diva.... He just told him to 'take off his leopard printed boots'. Then again, I only wear my leopard printed boots when I feel like being a diva.

[dmbredsox36]

I hope they use these first rounders.

Likewise. :thumbsup

The only way I'd like them to trade back is if it's into the early/mid second round and their target is still there. We don't need another 4/5/6 round bust.

[pathetic]

To be fair, he didn't straight out call him a diva.... He just told him to 'take off his leopard printed boots'. Then again, I only wear my leopard printed boots when I feel like being a diva.

yeah he did

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/willie-mcginest-wes-welker-off-party-tour-back-160901171.html

During an appearance on NFL Network, McGinest criticized Welker's plan to sit out minicamp in a contract dispute. "I don't like the diva attitude,"

[drop2d]

yeah he did

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/willie-mcginest-wes-welker-off-party-tour-back-160901171.html

Ahhh... Did not see that. Just saw the boot thing and willies tweets where he said he was misquoted abut 'diva'.

"Mr. Michael smith if you are going to report on my commentary please get it right I nvr called wes a diva a fan did I watched u grow up kid"

[rickyh24]

Apparently the pats have inquired about moving up to 12.

[UNC41]

Welker and the Pat's 3rd/4th rounder to the Rams for Amendola and a 2nd. Send #27 to the Vikings for Jared Allen.

Left with:

Amendola
Allen
#31
#33 (or #39, Rams have two seconds)
#48
#62
#126

BOOM.

:lol:lol:lol

A team that needs as much fan support as it can get right now is not going to send it's most popular player to the Pats for a late first round pick.

[dmbredsox36]

Apparently the pats have inquired about moving up to 12.

Interesting. I wonder if it's serious or just smokescreen BS at this point. I'd think the price is too high for BB. I could see if it was a late teen or early 20ish pick.

[abbotter88]

:lol:lol:lol

A team that needs as much fan support as it can get right now is not going to send it's most popular player to the Pats for a late first round pick.


There's plenty of rumors floating that they're looking to trade Allen, but maybe I was a little light on the compensation. Add a 2nd and a 4th if you like.

It's probably not happening...but it's a thought.

[dduncan6er]

I like the pick. Jones has serious potential. Belichick taking a chance on another guy that had an injury his last year in school. Worked out pretty well with Gronk.

[UNC41]

There's plenty of rumors floating that they're looking to trade Allen, but maybe I was a little light on the compensation. Add a 2nd and a 4th if you like.

It's probably not happening...but it's a thought.

There has been absolutely no rumors coming out of Minnesota about that. If there were any validity to those rumors, they would have surfaced here.

[DMBstandUP1984]

he doesn't do well against strong blockers can be man handled at times by them...and does not have much speed around the corner probably have a hard time beating NFL offensive tackles..and had a knee injury a year ago. Rumor was Jets were looking to trade up for him also.

[rickyh24]

Like both picks. Got exactly what they needed.

[dduncan6er]

Dmbstandup does not like the Patriots picks. In other news water is wet.

[rickyh24]

Dmbstandup does not like the Patriots picks. In other news water is wet.

:lol:lol

[DMBstandUP1984]

Dmbstandup does not like the Patriots picks. In other news water is wet.

:lol:lol

[cry_minarets458]

I fucking hate the Ravens front office. Congrats on Hightower; I can't believe Ozzie lets so many of his projected players go to NE.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Hightower..slow can't wait to see slot receivers and NFL TE's burn him on the inside

:lol:lol

[dmbredsox36]

I like the aggressive approach in Round 1. I wonder if they could've gotten one of those guys without trading, but they must've known others were interested.

With only 2 2nd Round picks, I'd like to see them get a decent WR, maybe Jeffery, Hill, Adams or Wright. Then trade the second pick and get some Oline help for the future. What's everyone else think?

[ctk11]

I like the aggressive approach in Round 1. I wonder if they could've gotten one of those guys without trading, but they must've known others were interested.

With only 2 2nd Round picks, I'd like to see them get a decent WR, maybe Jeffery, Hill, Adams or Wright. Then trade the second pick and get some Oline help for the future. What's everyone else think?

I think the last thing we need is another WR. I'm thinking secondary help and get Lamar Miller, that dude has a future in the NFL

[dduncan6er]

Safety is a must in the 2nd round.

[pathetic]

i really like BB moving up to get the guys he wanted.

this team will be very strong in the next few years all around, but to set up next year bill made some key picks for defense, moved mccourtey to safety, and made a few good offensive FA moves. :thumbsup

[pathetic]

Safety is a must in the 2nd round.

they need a corner first if mccourtey is really going to be a full time FS. i like the move putting Chung back at his normal SS position

[YouNeverKnow25]

I love the Hightower pick. If he's getting beat by slot receivers, you have the coaches to blame for allowing that matchup to happen, not Hightower. There isn't a LB in the league who can cover a slot WR.

[pathetic]

I love the Hightower pick. If he's getting beat by slot receivers, you have the coaches to blame for allowing that matchup to happen, not Hightower. There isn't a LB in the league who can cover a slot WR.

this.

brady will pick that apart everytime no matter how tight the coverage is. if he see's a LB on welker he's throwing it to him

[dduncan6er]

they need a corner first if mccourtey is really going to be a full time FS. i like the move putting Chung back at his normal SS position

I assumed McCourty was going back to corner. If they're taking a corner I'd like to see them kick the tires on Jenkins. High risk high reward.

[pathetic]

I assumed McCourty was going back to corner. If they're taking a corner I'd like to see them kick the tires on Jenkins. High risk high reward.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/18840261

[dduncan6er]

Interesting. Definitely need a corner then. I'm curious about Dowling too who we took in the 2nd round last year and he was injured the whole year.

[YouNeverKnow25]

I hope Jenkins is gone by the time the Patriots pick (because I want the Panthers to snap him up at pick 40 if he's there).

[dmbredsox36]

I can't see BB making a definitive decision on McCourty already. Seems a bit rushed to me and more pre-draft BS then anything. Jenkins would be definitely be a high risk/reward option if he's available, but I think they have some other higher needs then a CB at the moment.

BB builds for the future, so I see him trying to get more picks and get some future O-line help, maybe a Safety or CB, a WR/RB/KR type player and call it a day.

[pathetic]

I can't see BB making a definitive decision on McCourty already. Seems a bit rushed to me and more pre-draft BS then anything. Jenkins would be definitely be a high risk/reward option if he's available, but I think they have some other higher needs then a CB at the moment.

BB builds for the future, so I see him trying to get more picks and get some future O-line help, maybe a Safety or CB, a WR/RB/KR type player and call it a day.

well all we can really go by is what we have. boston globe and cbs both reported that mccourty will most likely be moved to safety full time

[dmbredsox36]

this.

brady will pick that apart everytime no matter how tight the coverage is. if he see's a LB on Edelman or Gonzalez he's throwing it to him

Fixed for this year. :lol

Kidding of course.

[pathetic]

Fixed for this year. :lol

Kidding of course.

:lol :lol dammit

[dmbredsox36]

well all we can really go by is what we have. boston globe and cbs both reported that mccourty will most likely be moved to safety full time

But the CBS report is just a rehash of the globe report right? That's my only issue. I'm fine with the move if they can get a solid replacement for the 2010 McCourty. Otherwise I'd give him a full offseason to get back to form and see what happens. Granted, maybe they had to make some early decisions because of the draft.

[pathetic]

But the CBS report is just a rehash of the globe report right? That's my only issue. I'm fine with the move if they can get a solid replacement for the 2010 McCourty. Otherwise I'd give him a full offseason to get back to form.

yeah, it'd be nice to draft a corner that stays healthy. i dont know what to expect from dowling.

mccourty is finally healthy though. he was getting beat so bad at corner last year. i think moving him to safety is the right move

[gocubsgo3822]

Liked the Pats draft a lot

[YouNeverKnow25]

Wouldn't he need to pack on pounds during the offseason to play safety? Meaning, if they are doing it, they would have already commited to it and it's a done deal. They're not going to either A) have him stay at CB weight and then move him after he reports to camp, because he'd be at such size disadvantage in the box or B) ask him to gain the weight then move him back at the opening of camp, forcing him to lose weight quickly.

Meaning, if he's moving, it's already been decided and won't be up in the air at the outset of camp.

[pathetic]

Wouldn't he need to pack on pounds during the offseason to play safety? Meaning, if they are doing it, they would have already commited to it and it's a done deal. They're not going to either A) have him stay at CB weight and then move him after he reports to camp, because he'd be at such size disadvantage in the box or B) ask him to gain the weight then move him back at the opening of camp, forcing him to lose weight quickly.

Meaning, if he's moving, it's already been decided and won't be up in the air at the outset of camp.

maybe a little, muscle if anything though. he's about the same weight as merriweather and about 15 pounds less than chung

he did a decent job at safety last season while hurting his arm everygame. seemed like he was playing with his arm dangling a lot

[YouNeverKnow25]

maybe a little, muscle if anything though. he's about the same weight as merriweather and about 10 pounds less than chung

Well, yeah. I'm not suggesting any team would tell a non-lineman that he needed to gain fat :ugh

[pathetic]

Well, yeah. I'm not suggesting any team would tell a non-lineman that he needed to gain fat :ugh

lol i know. i'm not sure why i even typed it :lol

[YouNeverKnow25]

Ho-hos and twinkies for you this offseason, McCourty. Keep the physical activity to a minimum. No need to burn any calories.

[pathetic]

Ho-hos and twinkies for you this offseason, McCourty. Keep the physical activity to a minimum. No need to burn any calories.

:lol:lol thats how i do it in the winter then by the time the spring comes i try and turn it into muscle! patriot way!!!

[abbotter88]

McCourty is a fine size for a FS. He's a sure tackler which, from a size standpoint, is all you're really worried about.

[dmbredsox36]

Anyone happen to know off hand what picks the Pats have in 2013? I'm too lazy to try and find it this morning. :lol

I'm just curious if they'll try to package some picks to the later rounds or next year's draft. There's definitely talent to be had throughout rounds 2-4.

[YouNeverKnow25]

Oh, I disagree completely, on both points. 193 is not getting it done for a safety. Sure tackling is great but a safety is in the box much more often than a CB ever is. A guy who has had upper body injuries on the edge wants no part of a guard, fullback, or RB in the box at 193.

[dduncan6er]

Has anyone noticed that it seems like this team has had better luck with undrafted guys instead of late round picks in recent years? That's one of the main reasons I'm not very concerned about the team's lack of picks on Saturday.

[pathetic]

Oh, I disagree completely, on both points. 193 is not getting it done for a safety. Sure tackling is great but a safety is in the box much more often than a CB ever is. A guy who has had upper body injuries on the edge wants no part of a guard, fullback, or RB in the box at 193.

ya, he'll put on 10 or so. 205

[YouNeverKnow25]

ya, he'll put on 10 or so. 205

I agree, that's enough. He probably was planning on bulking up the shoulders a bit anyway.

[pathetic]

I agree, that's enough. He probably was planning on bulking up the shoulders a bit anyway.

yeah, he's not launching himself at anyone. he prides himself on wrapping people up

[pathetic]

so anyone think ocho is actually going to be on this team next season? i still can't see a way he fits into this offense with lloyd, welker*, and branch as the main 3 Wide outs.

[dmbredsox36]

Has anyone noticed that it seems like this team has had better luck with undrafted guys instead of late round picks in recent years? That's one of the main reasons I'm not very concerned about the team's lack of picks on Saturday.

Me neither. I still think/would like them to try and get a round 3 or 4 pick on Saturday, but I'm fine if they can't and find the talent they want in Round 2. BB can find some UDFA pieces and go from there.

[pathetic]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/redskins-safety-brandon-meriweather-is-arrested-on-drunk-driving-charges/2012/04/26/gIQAZ7AEkT_story.html

anyone see this? :lol

[dmbredsox36]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/redskins-safety-brandon-meriweather-is-arrested-on-drunk-driving-charges/2012/04/26/gIQAZ7AEkT_story.html

anyone see this? :lol

:lol Yeah I just saw this on ESPN. Classy.

Another draft related thought I just saw/had; wonder if they try to package Hoyer or some other players for picks in round 3, 4 or next year. I'd be ok with that if it's the right combo.

[pathetic]

:lol Yeah I just saw this on ESPN. Classy.

Another draft related thought I just saw/had; wonder if they try to package Hoyer or some other players for picks in round 3, 4 or next year. I'd be ok with that if it's the right combo.


what's the best you think the pats could get for hoyer? second best QB in the division, but maybe a 3rd or 4th round at best imo

[dduncan6er]

You could probably get a 3rd and maybe a 6 for him. I hope he gets the chance to start some where.

[dmbredsox36]

what's the best you think the pats could get for hoyer? second best QB in the division, but maybe a 3rd or 4th round at best imo

Well played. :lol

I think they could get a 3rd and 5th or 6th. Anyone else you could see them trading?

[pathetic]

Well done. :lol

I think they could get a 3rd and 5th/6th. Anyone else you could see them trading?

mallet wasn't impressive enough and didnt get enough time so there's no way they could get anything for him. hoyer would be the best bet to trade away. i like hoyer a lot and like duncan said, i hope he gets a chance to play somewhere because he wont here.

[rickyh24]

I'm not sure they would ever trade Hoyer.

[dduncan6er]

I'm not sure they would ever trade Hoyer.
He'll be walking after this year. May as well get something for him. I'm sure Mallett is a prefectly capable back up at this point.

[drop2d]

There's one thing for sure about the patriots first round picks... The hats they had them wear are ugly as fuck.

http://www.nflshop.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12368966&cp=2237543&pageType=family&parentPage=family

[dmbredsox36]

He'll be walking after this year. May as well get something for him. I'm sure Mallett is a prefectly capable back up at this point.

That's how I feel. This season (or I guess after the preseason) is the only time you'll get anything back in return for him, so you might as well see what you can get now.

[pathetic]

There's one thing for sure about the patriots first round picks... The hats they had them wear are ugly as fuck.

http://www.nflshop.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12368966&cp=2237543&pageType=family&parentPage=family

:lol only $35

[pearljammer]

Hightower..slow can't wait to see slot receivers and NFL TE's burn him on the inside

:lol:lol

Hightower definitely isn't "slow"!

[pathetic]

Hightower definitely isn't "slow"!

he's a jets, colts, cowboys, broncos fan. enough said.

[drop2d]

:lol only $35

Seriously.... It looks like something a street vendor would be selling outside the stadium for a 5 spot.

[pathetic]

Seriously.... It looks like something a street vendor would be selling outside the stadium for a 5 spot.

i saw them at sports authority last week. i thought they were the last of the cheap reebok NE hats. nope, just new ugly ones

[thebestauntie]

I hate the new wide, flat brim on the hats.

[pathetic]

I hate the new wide, flat brim on the hats.

i like the new era baseball hats, i just dont like how they are all around $30 and you can get a bad one every once and a while that doesnt fit correctly.

when you first buy them they need to be broken in a little. my new sox hat took about 3-4 days of normal wear for it to break in

[s0628711]

The hats are awesome. The design is terrible. INDIANAPOLIS (or other longer cities) written across a hat in huge lettering is just dumb.

[thebestauntie]

i like the new era baseball hats, i just dont like how they are all around $30 and you can get a bad one every once and a while that doesnt fit correctly.

when you first buy them they need to be broken in a little. my new sox hat took about 3-4 days of normal wear for it to break in
Which one, they have at least 4 that I can see.

[dmbredsox36]

Who the heck? :confused

2 outta 3 isn't bad I guess. Lol

[rickyh24]

Kid wasn't even invited to combine.

In Bill we trust.

[dmbredsox36]

The more I think about it, WTF is this pick? Nobody knows anything about him and clearly they could've traded back and gotten him later, or hell, after the draft. Plenty of talent they could've taken there. Waste.

[DMBstandUP1984]

The more I think about it, WTF is this pick? Nobody knows anything about him and clearly they could've traded back and gotten him later, or hell, after the draft. Plenty of talent they could've taken there. Waste.

A lot of talent on the board..i'm wicked surprised they did not trade down to stalk up on some more picks

[DMBstandUP1984]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysDXJ7hH8HI
Tavon Wilson

[dmbredsox36]

Kid wasn't even invited to combine.

In Bill we trust.

Not when it comes to the secondary. :lol

[jackisback24]

I thought McCourtey was a S now? 3 safeties now????

[rickyh24]

Not when it comes to the secondary. :lol



Valid point. :lol

[rickyh24]

I thought McCourtey was a S now? 3 safeties now????

Not really sure what is going to happen with McCourty going into the year.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Not when it comes to the secondary. :lol

Greg A. Bedard ‏ @GregABedard : (https://twitter.com/#%21/GregABedard) I just asked two NFL scouts who Tavon Wilson is and they responded the same way: "Good question."

[rickyh24]

No one knows who he is. Pick makes no sense.

[jackisback24]

Maybe Eugene's brother? Hey, if Jon Jones bro can get drafted...just sayin.

[DMBstandUP1984]

No one knows who he is. Pick makes no sense.

the youtube video i posted it sounds like a BB kinda guy.

He took over for Vontage Davis, dad died at 1 mom drowned at a pool party when he was 12 (both of this info i got from twitter.)

I assume just more depth at S

[thebridge15]

Really awful pick.

[dduncan6er]

Don't understand the pick at all.

[rickyh24]

Good value. You know that is what the explanation will be :lol

[thebridge15]

It's baffling. Just trade back.

[dmbredsox36]

Good value. You know that is what the explanation will be :lol

That doesn't work in this case because it's awful value. A 2nd round pick when you could have gotten him after the draft? If they took an OL or Konz there, then that's value.

[thebridge15]

We HAVE to trade this next pick, right?

[dmbredsox36]

Well that answers that. 3rd and a 5th.

Glad they took such a stud with the one 2nd round pick, especially with all the scrubs around it.

[thebridge15]

Did Bill just have such a great day yesterday that he let an intern run the war room today?

[dmbredsox36]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's left the building. Late spring break?

[thebridge15]

Just poor all around.

[jackisback24]

how do we feel about the 1st round?

[thebridge15]

First round? Great.

[dmbredsox36]

Too bad the draft didn't end last night. Plenty of DE's and OL's they could've gone after.

[thebridge15]

A quality lineman or CB would be ideal. Or I guess would have been ideal since they aren't there anymore.

[dmbredsox36]

Exactly. Now it's: Value and Depth. Value and Depth. :lol

[jackisback24]

keep forgetting Matt Light is done.

[thebridge15]

Well we just got serious, serious depth. Too much.

[dmbredsox36]

Yeah... cut depth. Awesome.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Rich Keefe ‏ @Keefe21: To clarify on Tavon Wilson, I've heard: "Sucks" "Played on terrible team" "6th round grade" "Probably surprised he was picked" "Reach" etc.

[dmbredsox36]

Lol "Get google ready for Pats pick."

[dmbredsox36]

Sweet, more 'versatility.' I think that's my new most hated word. Well... except value.

[thebridge15]

That's actually not a bad pick though. DE or linebacker and most people (including me) have actually heard of him.

[jackisback24]

well we're set on defense now. Is Andre Carter coming back? I'd like it so.

[dmbredsox36]

They could've helped the O-Line too, but hey, can't get everything we want.

Everyone have a good weekend.

[thebridge15]

I miss the first round, when we picked players who were "good," and "skilled," and "played on national championship teams."

[jackisback24]

gotta give credit to 98.5 for having BB and Kraft on all weekend, including 1130pm live last night. LOL'd hard when BB said the picks had good value.

[thebridge15]

I mean BB's clearly not a total dumbass, so there has to be a reason for picking Wilson past the obvious.

[jackisback24]

http://www.boston.com/sports/blogs/thebuzz/2012/04/felgers_mockery.html?p1=Upbox_links

[DMBstandUP1984]

gotta give credit to 98.5 for having BB and Kraft on all weekend, including 1130pm live last night. LOL'd hard when BB said the picks had good value.

they are the official station of the New England Patriots its not that far fetched they'd get BB and Kraft

[thebridge15]

Have to go pick by pick here:

C. Jones - B+ - Addresses a need, good background, worth trading up for.
D. Hightower - A - Always love Bama players and was really excited when we got this guy.
T. Wilson - D- - Only thing preventing it from being an F is that he plays defense.
J. Brequette - B+ - SEC pass rusher that I've heard of. Good in my book.
N. Ebner - B - Classic BB pick. Used to play rugby, probably pretty versatile (in a good way, not in a "he sucks so we'll call him versatile" way).
A. Dennard - B+ - A secondary player who was well-rated. Pretty solid late pick.
J. Ebert - B- - Can't really praise or criticize this one.

[dduncan6er]

Pretty accurate grades. Overall I give the draft a B. Would have maybe been an A if it wasn't for that 2nd rounder.

[jackisback24]

As BB said, Vollmer wasn't even invited to the Combine and he turned out okay. Let's see what the guy can do before grilling him (Wilson).

[thebridge15]

I'm not grilling him, I'm grilling the pick. No matter how good he ends up being, we still could've gotten him in the fifth or sixth.

[dmbredsox36]

I'm not grilling him, I'm grilling the pick. No matter how good he ends up being, we still could've gotten him in the fifth or sixth.

Exactly this. I don't care how good he ends up being, they could've made a better pick in round 2 and still gotten him later in the 7th or even as an UDFA. It's like BB needed to make a big FU statement to everyone after he actually made a popular move in the first round. It was an ego move 100%.

Overall, I'm happy with the draft. Looking forward to camp reports and seeing how the picks progress.

[pathetic]

BB selected mankins in the first round when he was supposed to be a late 2nd early 3rd round pick. if he sees a guy that he likes and doesn't expect him to be around come his next pick he's going to take him

[dmbredsox36]

BB selected mankins in the first round when he was supposed to be a late 2nd early 3rd round pick. if he sees a guy that he likes and doesn't expect him to be around come his next pick he's going to take him

That's fine if it's a round or two early, but we're talking a 7th round pick or not even drafted. To me, they could've addressed some other need with a talented 2nd round pick and still got Wilson later. It has nothing to do with the player, it's just where he was taken that frustrates me. That's all. Like I said, to me this is just an ego move by BB.

[DMBstandUP1984]

I'm not grilling him, I'm grilling the pick. No matter how good he ends up being, we still could've gotten him in the fifth or sixth.

most Patriots fans don't understand that logic they just assume in Bill We Trust

I don't agree BB selected him because he didn't think he would be around in later picks. you probably could have picked this kid up after the draft. The difference between Vollmer and this kid was Vollmer was ranked in the top 200 at least, something this kid was not.

Another odd pick is the Rugby kid I think he played something like 2-3 snaps on defense last season another pick that is going to get lost on special teams.

And Dennard surprised they picked a guy that got kicked out of a bowl game for fighting and punched a cop less than a week ago, what if he is convicted? Its one thing to draft a guy that has got in trouble for weed..but punching a cop a week before the draft?

Believe me if the Jets drafted this kid, Pats fans would be all over Rex

[pathetic]

That's fine if it's a round or two early, but we're talking a 7th round pick or not even drafted. To me, they could've addressed some other need with a talented 2nd round pick and still got Wilson later. It has nothing to do with the player, it's just where he was taken that frustrates me. That's all. Like I said, to me this is just an ego move by BB.

obviously bill see's something in the kid. pats didnt have a 4th or 5th round pick so i'm guessing bill thinks he'd be gone by the time the 6th round rolled along

[dmbredsox36]

most Patriots fans don't understand that logic they just assume in Bill We Trust

I don't agree BB selected him because he didn't think he would be around in later picks. you probably could have picked this kid up after the draft. The difference between Vollmer and this kid was Vollmer was ranked in the top 200 at least, something this kid was not.

Another odd pick is the Rugby kid I think he played something like 2-3 snaps on defense last season another pick that is going to get lost on special teams.

And Dennard surprised they picked a guy that got kicked out of a bowl game for fighting and punched a cop less than a week ago, what if he is convicted? Its one thing to draft a guy that has got in trouble for weed..but punching a cop a week before the draft?

Believe me if the Jets drafted this kid, Pats fans would be all over Rex

I agree with the first part about where they picked him, that's my only real issue with it. It seemed there was plenty of talent still readily available at that spot in the 2nd and obviously there was no rush on Wilson.

I like that they signed some UDFA OL's, I think that'll be help throughout the season and next. I'm sure they did they homework on Dennard, though I was surprised about the very recent issues. Pretty dumb to get into that kind of situation a week before your NFL future is decided. You gotta figure that the Patriot Way will straighten him out or he'll be gone before the end of camp. Another low risk/high reward selection.

[pathetic]

I agree with the first part about where they picked him, that's my only real issue with it. It seemed there was plenty of talent still readily available at that spot in the 2nd and obviously there was no rush on Wilson.

I like that they signed some UDFA OL's, I think that'll be help throughout the season and next. I'm sure they did they homework on Dennard, though I was surprised about the very recent issues. Pretty dumb to get into that kind of situation a week before your NFL future is decided. You gotta figure that the Patriot Way will straighten him out or he'll be gone before the end of camp. Another low risk/high reward selection.

but he only punched the cop because he tripped!!! :lol

[DMBstandUP1984]

but he only punched the cop because he tripped!!! :lol

him and Rondo must have the same big book of excuses

[dduncan6er]

most Patriots fans don't understand that logic they just assume in Bill We Trust

I don't agree BB selected him because he didn't think he would be around in later picks. you probably could have picked this kid up after the draft. The difference between Vollmer and this kid was Vollmer was ranked in the top 200 at least, something this kid was not.

Another odd pick is the Rugby kid I think he played something like 2-3 snaps on defense last season another pick that is going to get lost on special teams.

And Dennard surprised they picked a guy that got kicked out of a bowl game for fighting and punched a cop less than a week ago, what if he is convicted? Its one thing to draft a guy that has got in trouble for weed..but punching a cop a week before the draft?

Believe me if the Jets drafted this kid, Pats fans would be all over Rex
We probably would but you have to admit there's a big difference for a guy with discipline issues entering the Patriots locker room and Jets locker room.

[dduncan6er]

Sports Hub just reported Junior Seau was found dead. Believed to be a suicide.

[pathetic]

Sports Hub just reported Junior Seau was found dead. Believed to be a suicide.

wow that's nuts.

[Nick11dx]

TMZ is reporting the same......so its gotta be official.

Joking aside RIP Junior I was a big fan of you while in NE

[pathetic]

TMZ is reporting the same......so its gotta be official.

Joking aside RIP Junior I was a big fan of you while in NE

http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/02/junior-seau-shooting-police/

not official People in law enforcement are telling us Junior Seau is dead ... but we are unable to confirm that right now.

probably true, but not official yet

[pathetic]

TMZ is reporting the same......so its gotta be official.

this made me lol

[pathetic]

http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/02/junior-seau-dead/

RIP :shrug

[K3nTaKa0s]

Edit: Whoops. An all-time great for the Chargers.

[abbotter88]

Looks like Gaffney is coming back to the pats.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/02/jabar-gaffney-says-hes-going-to-the-patriots/

Bad news for Ocho, he's as good as gone.

[rickyh24]

What is with all these wide outs? :lol

[thebridge15]

Brady's planning on just throwing it thirty yards downfield with his eyes closed and assuming someone will come down with it.

[dmbredsox36]

Brady's planning on just throwing it thirty yards downfield with his eyes closed and assuming someone will come down with it.

New offensive scheme: 6 WR spread. :lol

Is that even legal? Seriously though, what the heck are they trying to do? Assemble the oldest WR crew in the NFL?

[rickyh24]

It's all a master plan to make Ocho get his head out of his ass.

[rickyh24]

http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports/newengland/football/patriots/2012/05/05/what-the-addition-of-joseph-addai-means-for-the-patriots-running-game/