New England Patriots

[rickyh24]

Celtics!!!

[RJP2741]

:lol Well said.

[Crush086]

Pats suck. lol

23/47, 216 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT

What a scrub.

[ProudestAnt]

:lol

[dmbmuskie]

Everything I ever said about Moss sucking was proven yesterday, but I still think you guys are the team to beat in the East.

[kingchrisII]

Everything I ever said about Moss sucking was proven yesterday, but I still think you guys are the team to beat in the East.

Randy Moss does NOT suck. Revis is just that. damn. good.

[dmbmuskie]

Randy Moss does NOT suck. Revis is just that. damn. good.

Revis is great, but Moss was absolutely worthless yesterday. When you don't have to worry about the deep ball you don't have to worry about Moss.

[pathetic]

...Hello..hello *echos*

*tear*

[thebestauntie]

Is it hockey season yet?

[pathetic]

Is it hockey season yet?

bears

[thebestauntie]

bears
Que?

[pathetic]

Que?

lets go chicago bears! it was english :lol

they looked good yesterday against pitt and finally used some good screens to forte...

[thebestauntie]

lets go chicago bears! it was english :lol

they looked good yesterday against pitt and finally used some good screens to forte...
There are no circumstances in the known universe that would ever get me to root for the Chicago Bears.

[ProudestAnt]

Bears, Beets, Battlestar Galactica...

[thebestauntie]

Bears, Beets, Battlestar Galactica...
Bills...

[pathetic]

There are no circumstances in the known universe that would ever get me to root for the Chicago Bears.

what about free season tix for 4 years? that suckered me in...

i still sleep in my grossman jersey

[thebestauntie]

what about free season tix for 4 years? that suckered me in...

i still sleep in my grossman jersey
I would go and root for whomever the Bears were playing. :lol

[pathetic]

I would go and root for whomever the Bears were playing. :lol

hahahaha then those season tix would be given away to whoever roots for the bears :lol

anyways soldier field is like a ufo...go sometime!

[SoRight24]

Hey. :)

[DavefaninNZ]

Bears, pfft. More like the Chicago chipmunks.

Anyone know where I can stream the radio broadcast of the pats games for free?

[rickyh24]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d812e8ae4&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

I'm pretty sure they will both end up playing. They have been talking about this for a few days now. I just saw it as a headline on NFL.com now so I figured I would post it.

[rickyh24]

Win.

[dmbmuskie]

Thank You very much.

[rickyh24]

Pats suck. lol


lol wut?

[luke7]

Two good wins in a row for the Pats despite the offense not providing fireworks like many expected.

[hbktonyb]

I love people that thought you guys were done after week 2.

[rickyh24]

The defense has looked great. A lot of people didn't think that would be the case. The offense is only going to get better. Watch out.

[RJP2741]

^ And that's with Mayo out.

[rickyh24]

^ And that's with Mayo out.

I can't wait until he is back. Hopefully next week.

[DavefaninNZ]

Just watched the highlights now. How do you drop that pass on 4 and 3? Pats got away with one there.

[thebestauntie]

Good game today! :)

[tedies]

Thank you Pats for beating the dirty birds :thumbsup

[pathetic]

Alex, where are you bro? where's my hug? pats woooooooooo

[hbktonyb]

Tied atop again. Should be a good division race, one would think.

[pathetic]

Tied atop again. Should be a good division race, one would think.

all should think

and miami looked great today against buffalo

[hbktonyb]

Miami looked legit, worried about next week.

[TempHelpNeeded]

Still want to trade Marroney. Sad to know Deangelo Williams and Joseph Addai were picked after him in that draft. :(

[rickyh24]

Greg trade Maroney for what? Stop with your nonsense. The Patriots have a fine backfield right now the staff knows how to use each one of the guys back there. Why mess with it?

[gonz085]

Miami looked legit, worried about next week.

u realize you guys are going to have to face Denver next week right? not Miami. so u should be worried

[pathetic]

]Still want to trade Marroney. Sad to know Deangelo Williams[/B] and Joseph Addai were picked after him in that draft. :(

what the fuck

u realize you guys are going to have to face Denver next week right? not Miami. so u should be worried

:lol @ denver

[gonz085]

what the fuck



:lol @ denver

please, keep laughing. cowboys thought they'd plow thru us and we completely shut them down. keep making us the underdog. then we'll see what happens next week

[pathetic]

please, keep laughing. cowboys thought they'd plow thru us and we completely shut them down. keep making us the underdog. then we'll see what happens next week

:lol @ dever

:lol even harder @ Dallas

[hbktonyb]

u realize you guys are going to have to face Denver next week right? not Miami. so u should be worried

Huh?? :confused

:lol:lol:lol

[TempHelpNeeded]

Greg trade Maroney for what? Stop with your nonsense. The Patriots have a fine backfield right now the staff knows how to use each one of the guys back there. Why mess with it?


He's a specialist. He's good for spots. I don't want a long term investment after it's all said and done though. Just sayin'.

[rickyh24]

He's a specialist. He's good for spots. I don't want a long term investment after it's all said and done though. Just sayin'.

I think the organization knows this though. I don't think you have to worry about them screwing up with Maroney. If they will benefit from him being there then he will be there. If he won't help them then he will be gone.

[RJP2741]

please, keep laughing. cowboys thought they'd plow thru us and we completely shut them down. keep making us the underdog. then we'll see what happens next week

What position do you play?

[gonz085]

What position do you play?

im a part of the fanbase.

[rickyh24]

lol.

[Crush086]

I'mmmm back!! Just got in from vacation, because, of course I was watching the game.

New England snuck out with a win today. How Clayton drops that pass is beyond me, and Flacco did a marvelous job of moving downfield.

Good good game. Congrats to the better team today.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Former Patriots safety Rodney Harrison took his former teammate Tom Brady to task on national television on Sunday night. During halftime of the Football Night in America telecast on NBC, Harrison told Brady to "take off the skirt and put on some slacks. Toughen up." Harrison was referring to the pointing Brady did after Terrell Suggs hit his right knee in the second quarter of Sunday's game. Suggs was flagged for roughing the quarterback and the Patriots went in for a subsequent touchdown.

I said the same thing after that play. Brady jumping up and down and pointing like a little girl that just got kicked in the shins. He is such a puss.

they might be 3-1 but they look and play like a 1-3 team

[pathetic]

I'mmmm back!! Just got in from vacation, because, of course I was watching the game.

New England snuck out with a win today. How Clayton drops that pass is beyond me, and Flacco did a marvelous job of moving downfield.

Good good game. Congrats to the better team today.

:eek...did you get laid on vaca or something?

[pathetic]

Former Patriots safety Rodney Harrison took his former teammate Tom Brady to task on national television on Sunday night. During halftime of the Football Night in America telecast on NBC, Harrison told Brady to "take off the skirt and put on some slacks. Toughen up." Harrison was referring to the pointing Brady did after Terrell Suggs hit his right knee in the second quarter of Sunday's game. Suggs was flagged for roughing the quarterback and the Patriots went in for a subsequent touchdown.

I said the same thing after that play. Brady jumping up and down and pointing like a little girl that just got kicked in the shins. He is such a puss.

they might be 3-1 but they look and play like a 1-3 team

the ref was throwing the flag before brady even looked at him. the correct call was made. suggs went low...everyone knows (might not agree) that it's a penalty

brady did what any QB wouldve done :lol

[DMBstandUP1984]

please. the guy was falling foward and stumbled into his leg. I'm sure the pedicure he got after the game made the pain go away.

QB's are overprotected with stupid rules. When I see Brady take a hit like Sanchez did last week I might have some respect for him. Brady has always been a little bitch with a big ego...keep wearing that TB hat

[pathetic]

please. the guy was falling foward and stumbled into his leg. I'm sure the pedicure he got after the game made the pain go away.

QB's are overprotected with stupid rules. When I see Brady take a hit like Sanchez did last week I might have some respect for him. Brady has always been a little bitch with a big ego...keep wearing that TB hat

watch the reply again..not on slow motion...thats all the refs can go by...

and i do agree that the qbs are over protected in the league...suggs should know that better than anyone. brady did exactly what every qb in football wouldve done...got up and called for a flag (even though he didnt need to since one was already being thrown)

[dmbmuskie]

The NFL's problem is that they have legislated intent out of officiating. I think the only judgement call left is running into the kicker/punter/holder penalties.

There is a difference between getting your hands up to block a pass, and hitting a QB in the head. There is a difference between diving low at a QB, and stumbling towards him. You don't want to see guys get hurt, but you also don't want to see guys not give their all to get after the QB or not give their all to seperate a WR from the ball.

Brady has taken plenty of hits. The hit that Sanchez took was stupid. If he has any brains he won't take a hit like that again.

[pathetic]

The NFL's problem is that they have legislated intent out of officiating. I think the only judgement call left is running into the kicker/punter/holder penalties.

There is a difference between getting your hands up to block a pass, and hitting a QB in the head. There is a difference between diving low at a QB, and stumbling towards him. You don't want to see guys get hurt, but you also don't want to see guys not give their all to get after the QB or not give their all to seperate a WR from the ball.

Brady has taken plenty of hits. The hit that Sanchez took was stupid. If he has any brains he won't take a hit like that again.

roookie mistake :lol

fall down, throw it away, or get up calling for a flag...he'll learn :lol

[dmbmuskie]

roookie mistake :lol

fall down, throw it away, or get up calling for a flag...he'll learn :lol

Cutler almost got killed yesterday. The KO on Trent Green was the ultimate "Get Down" moment.


I would guess half of my screaming during a Steeler game is either "Get Down" or "Throw It Away". Your team isn't going anywhere with your star QB on the sideline because he needed to prove how tough he was.

[pathetic]

Cutler almost got killed yesterday. The KO on Trent Green was the ultimate "Get Down" moment.


I would guess half of my screaming during a Steeler game is either "Get Down" or "Throw It Away". Your team isn't going anywhere with your star QB on the sideline because he needed to prove how tough he was.

Brady used to pop right back up after every big hit, and he used to take a lot of them, but now he's slower and slower everytime :lol makes me cringe because you're right...most of the elite teams in the NFL lose their QB and their focus is on next season...unless your the pats, then you end up going 11-5 and miss the playoffs ::lorraine

[dmbmuskie]

Brady used to pop right back up after every big hit, and he used to take a lot of them, but now he's slower and slower everytime :lol makes me cringe because you're right...most of the elite teams in the NFL lose their QB and their focus is on next season...unless your the pats, then you end up going 11-5 and miss the playoffs ::lorraine

You aren't ready for the Hoyer era yet?

Having a great QB makes the NFL season much more stressful.


Tommy Maddox almost died on the field, and I don't think anyone in Pittsburgh even cared. Everytime Ben even gets breathed on is a cause for panic.

[pathetic]

You aren't ready for the Hoyer era yet?

Having a great QB makes the NFL season much more stressful.


Tommy Maddox almost died on the field, and I don't think anyone in Pittsburgh even cared. Everytime Ben even gets breathed on is a cause for panic.

i was watching the game with LA yesterday and we both almost left the bar when brady was running into the locker room and hoyer warming up :lol

fucking tease

any news on the o line player from the ravens? he was on the field for about 10 minutes before the stretcher. didnt give a thumbs up on the way off the field...hope he's ok

[dmbmuskie]

What happen when Brady went off the field? We were flipping between a few games, and we only saw him come out of the locker room. I completely forgot about that.

[pathetic]

What happen when Brady went off the field? We were flipping between a few games, and we only saw him come out of the locker room. I completely forgot about that.

lol see my last post on the page before...

we were at the bar and they didnt have the sound up. its a shitty feeling. the good thing was that he was running toward the locker room. im sure he's fine and it was just a wardrobe malfunction (hehe)

[thebestauntie]

i was watching the game with LA yesterday and we both almost left the bar when brady was running into the locker room and hoyer warming up :lol

fucking tease

any news on the o line player from the ravens? he was on the field for about 10 minutes before the stretcher. didnt give a thumbs up on the way off the field...hope he's ok
I know, that pissed me off! :lol

The X-Rays on Jared Gaither were negative and they were keeping him overnight. It looks like he's okay, but there hasn't been any update since yesterday afternoon.

[pathetic]

I know, that pissed me off! :lol

The X-Rays on Omar Gaither were negative and they were keeping him overnight. It looks like he's okay, but there hasn't been any update since yesterday afternoon.

good...we were thinking the guy may never walk again :eek

well i was...you were like, "uhmmm he's moving his legs" hahaha

[thebestauntie]

good...we were thinking the guy may never walk again :eek

well i was...you were like, "uhmmm he's moving his legs" hahaha
I also did see him moving his hands. One article said he was moving all of his extremities while he was on the field. :shrug Still, that wasn't fun watching with little sound.

[dmbmuskie]

I didn't think it looked that bad, but that really doesn't mean anything. I'm glad he's okay though.

[pathetic]

I also did see him moving his hands. One article said he was moving all of his extremities while he was on the field. :shrug Still, that wasn't fun watching with little sound.

and the effing 13 min break or whatever it was...most teams were 1/2 way into the 3rd quarter. pats still had 4 min left in the 1st half :lol

[pathetic]

I didn't think it looked that bad, but that really doesn't mean anything. I'm glad he's okay though.

yeah it didnt look that bad...

but he was down forever

[thebestauntie]

I didn't think it looked that bad, but that really doesn't mean anything. I'm glad he's okay though.
If we were able to hear what the announcers were saying we probably wouldn't have been as concerned, but with no information and just watching him barely move around, it was more than a little disconcerting. Then he didn't even give the "thumbs up" when he eventually got off the field. That didn't help us. I am glad that he's okay.
and the effing 13 min break or whatever it was...most teams were 1/2 way into the 3rd quarter. pats still had 4 min left in the 1st half :lol
I know, we were like, "what?" :lol

[pathetic]

how are the titans still going with their 60yr old qb? sign jeff garcia and sneak into the playoffs

[1eyed_jack]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGcE21mHp0o

brady is a bitch. how can anyone respect a quarterback who calls for a flag when he gets touched? i don't think there's been a bigger douchebag in football over the last 5 years

[Beebz]

I'mmmm back!! Just got in from vacation, because, of course I was watching the game.

New England snuck out with a win today. How Clayton drops that pass is beyond me, and Flacco did a marvelous job of moving downfield.

Good good game. Congrats to the better team today.

Im going to preface this with letting everyone know that Im a Ravens fan, but I dont think the Pats were the better team. I think they're very good, but they needed an inexcusable drop on fourth down to win that game. Now the Ravens still needed to score, but they would have been on the 8-yard line with 29 seconds left. Odds were pretty good that they punch that in.

I dont think the officiating was as bad as everyone is making out to be, particularly on the spots. McGahee was short. It wasnt close. The Ngata and Suggs personal fouls were atrocious however. You have got to do a better job than that as an NFL official.

the ref was throwing the flag before brady even looked at him. the correct call was made. suggs went low...everyone knows (might not agree) that it's a penalty

brady did what any QB wouldve done :lol

It was a horseshit call. That stumble into the QBs legs did not affect the play in the slightest. If that was Derek Anderson under center the punting unit comes on the field. He looked at the ref and he threw the flag.

Officials need to do a better job, and Goodell needs to bring some common sense into the game. Its partly the officials, but when the commissioner says before the season that refs need to overenforce certain calls, what are you going to do? Jobs are on the line. The refs need to throw flags even if they dont think they should.

This "point of emphasis" nonsense needs to stop. Protect the QB, but protect him sensibly.

[pathetic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGcE21mHp0o

brady is a bitch. how can anyone respect a quarterback who calls for a flag when he gets touched? i don't think there's been a bigger douchebag in football over the last 5 years

whats the difference in this and any other QB who calls for a flag. or a receiver calling for a flag?

players call for flags all the time, just because he got it doesnt make brady the pussy...

the ref threw the flag. it's not brady's fault :lol deal with it, it's part of the game. every QB does it and will continue to do it

[Beebz]

Interesting:

Both penalties extended Patriots drives that resulted in touchdowns, and an emotional Ray Lewis (http://www.baltimoresun.com/topic/sports/football/ray-lewis-PESPT008514.topic) argued after the contest that the NFL (http://www.baltimoresun.com/topic/sports/football/nfl-ORSPT000007.topic)'s attempt to protect quarterbacks is diminishing the sport.

"That's embarrassing to our game," Lewis said, adding that Brady even acknowledged to Johnson that New England got a "cheap" call. "Fine me, do whatever you please, I'm not speaking against anybody. It's embarrassing for them to treat one person on a football field different from anybody else. That's what's embarrassing about this game. You cannot do that. You've got to let the game take care of itself like it just did. But when you call penalties like that, it takes away from the love of the game because you can get a Tom Brady to walk by you and say something like, 'Oh, that's a cheap one.' Wow."

[pathetic]

Im going to preface this with letting everyone know that Im a Ravens fan, but I dont think the Pats were the better team. I think they're very good, but they needed an inexcusable drop on fourth down to win that game. Now the Ravens still needed to score, but they would have been on the 8-yard line with 29 seconds left. Odds were pretty good that they punch that in.

I dont think the officiating was as bad as everyone is making out to be, particularly on the spots. McGahee was short. It wasnt close. The Ngata and Suggs personal fouls were atrocious however. You have got to do a better job than that as an NFL official.



It was a horseshit call. That stumble into the QBs legs did not affect the play in the slightest. If that was Derek Anderson under center the punting unit comes on the field. He looked at the ref and he threw the flag.

Officials need to do a better job, and Goodell needs to bring some common sense into the game. Its partly the officials, but when the commissioner says before the season that refs need to overenforce certain calls, what are you going to do? Jobs are on the line. The refs need to throw flags even if they dont think they should.

This "point of emphasis" nonsense needs to stop. Protect the QB, but protect him sensibly.

what odds say that the ravens wouldve punched it in? they were trailing most of the game...

yes, it was a horseshit call, but deal with it. it happens all the time in all sports. what the ref saw was suggs going low on the QB. if brady doesnt jump over him then it couldve been ugly.

i agree, the refs need to do a much better job, but calls like this happen in every football game. pats still had to march down the rest of the field and score a TD. it's not like the play set us up 1st and goal

[1eyed_jack]

whats the difference in this and any other QB who calls for a flag. or a receiver calling for a flag?

players call for flags all the time, just because he got it doesnt make brady the pussy...

the ref threw the flag. it's not brady's fault :lol deal with it, it's part of the game. every QB does it and will continue to do it

i don't remember any QBs calling for phantom late hit calls.

[pathetic]

i don't remember any QBs calling for phantom late hit calls.

then you dont watch much football. everytime a QB goes down hard he'll call for a flag.

receivers too...even the slightest **** will make them start screaming for flags.

[dmbmuskie]

I'd like to see them start flagging guys for asking for flags.

[thebestauntie]

I'd like to see them start flagging guys for asking for flags.
Penalty for "Excessive Whining". I like it! :thumbsup :lol

[1eyed_jack]

then you dont watch much football. everytime a QB goes down hard he'll call for a flag.

receivers too...even the slightest **** will make them start screaming for flags.


are we talking about the same thing???

brady didn't go down. he got bumped into. there's a difference between a QB getting hit after a throw and wanting a flag, and QB NOT getting hit and asking for a flag

[dmbmuskie]

Penalty for "Excessive Whining". I like it! :thumbsup :lol

It's really no different than diving in soccer and hockey or flopping in basketball.

[dmbmuskie]

are we talking about the same thing???

brady didn't go down. he got bumped into. there's a difference between a QB getting hit after a throw and wanting a flag, and QB NOT getting hit and asking for a flag

The rule is the rule. I think it was called properly.

[dmbgodagirl41]

I particularly liked the classy "FUCK THE RAVENS" chant I got going at the bar yesterday. :lol

[pathetic]

are we talking about the same thing???

brady didn't go down. he got bumped into. there's a difference between a QB getting hit after a throw and wanting a flag, and QB NOT getting hit and asking for a flag

so since he didnt go down it isnt roughing?

that's why they made the rule about going high/low...you cant do that

[dmbgodagirl41]

I'm pretty sure you can't drive your fat helmet-headed self at a guy's knees. Just sayin'.

[1eyed_jack]

so since he didnt go down it isnt roughing?

that's why they made the rule about going high/low...you cant do that


since he didn't get hit it isn't roughing.

outside of patriot homers, i haven't heard ANYONE say that was a good call. not commentators, not friends, not sportscenter.

guess i should have known better than to post something anti-brady in a patriots thread and expect people to be reasonable about it

[dmbmuskie]

The rule says something like you cannot make contact withthe QB below the knees after the ball is released. Suggs did that. End of story.

It might be a stupid rule and a "cheap" penalty on the Ravens, but according to the NFL rules for the 2009 season the right call was made.

[1eyed_jack]

:lol i seriously think we didn't watch the same game. i'm a bears fan, i just wanted to see a good game, and i feel that the brady rules stopped what was otherwise a fantastic game. guess what? the bears secondary sucked yesterday.

...see, it's easy to be a fan and still admit your team isn't perfect

[dmbgodagirl41]

since he didn't get hit it isn't roughing.

outside of patriot homers, i haven't heard ANYONE say that was a good call. not commentators, not friends, not sportscenter.

guess i should have known better than to post something anti-brady in a patriots thread and expect people to be reasonable about it

Dude, a 15 yard roughing the passer call doesn't make you lose games. being the shittier team that week does.
Also, Baltimore had that win with that last catch. Flacco put it right in the numbers. THAT, if anything, is the reason Baltimore lost. Not beacuse of some shitty call against Suggs.

Edit: in addition, in case you haven't noticed, there are tons of random "shitty" rules to protect the QB now a days. I saw a guy get a roughing the passer call for putting his hands up and tapped manning on the head when his hands came down. Shitty? yeah. Does it say you can't do that? Yeah. Deal.

You can't hit a QB at the knees or below once the ball is released. Suggs did that. Therefore, it was a penalty. Not sure what all your commentators don't get about it or all your experts. But, according to the way the rules are, it was the correct call.

[thebestauntie]

The rule says something like you cannot make contact withthe QB below the knees after the ball is released. Suggs did that. End of story.

It might be a stupid rule and a "cheap" penalty on the Ravens, but according to the NFL rules for the 2009 season the right call was made.
Exactly.
:lol i seriously think we didn't watch the same game. i'm a bears fan, i just wanted to see a good game, and i feel that the brady rules stopped what was otherwise a fantastic game. guess what? the bears secondary sucked yesterday.

...see, it's easy to be a fan and still admit your team isn't perfect
The rule itself is a pansy rule and it needs to go, everyone agrees with that. However, I see no reason at all why a player wouldn't take complete advantage of rule that's in place. It's stupid to think otherwise.

[dmbgodagirl41]

What's next? someone bitching about the tuck rule in 2001.

Shitty rule? Yep. (which is why the rule changed.) Right call at the time? Yep.

Deal.

[pathetic]

I particularly liked the classy "FUCK THE RAVENS" chant I got going at the bar yesterday. :lol

hahaha why didnt LA think to do that???

I'm pretty sure you can't drive your fat helmet-headed self at a guy's knees. Just sayin'.

true statement...just sayin

since he didn't get hit it isn't roughing.

outside of patriot homers, i haven't heard ANYONE say that was a good call. not commentators, not friends, not sportscenter.

guess i should have known better than to post something anti-brady in a patriots thread and expect people to be reasonable about it

i dont agree with the call. i think it's put the pats in a great position. but look at it from the refs point of view. he's watching everything in between the lineman and qb...he sees suggs go low (which is dumb and he shouldve known he cant go low) and throws the flag. pretty textbook...and if brady doesnt jump over him then we might be looking at another bradyless season

[pathetic]

how many times do you see in soccer, player doesnt even get touched and falls down pretending to be hurt and bitching about card. how many times in baseball do you see a fielder trap a ball, then play it like its an out? how many times in football do you see a receiver call for flags and bitch about not getting calls?

it happens in every sport at every position. deal with it

[thebestauntie]

hahaha why didnt LA think to do that???



true statement...just sayin



i dont agree with the call. i think it's put the pats in a great position. but look at it from the refs point of view. he's watching everything in between the lineman and qb...he sees suggs go low (which is dumb and he shouldve known he cant go low) and throws the flag. pretty textbook...and if brady doesnt jump over him then we might be looking at another bradyless season
Umm, cause we weren't in Baltimore, and I don't think the chick with the 1 1/2 year old sitting behind you would have appreciated it. :lol:lol

[Beebz]

what odds say that the ravens wouldve punched it in? they were trailing most of the game...

yes, it was a horseshit call, but deal with it. it happens all the time in all sports. what the ref saw was suggs going low on the QB. if brady doesnt jump over him then it couldve been ugly.

i agree, the refs need to do a much better job, but calls like this happen in every football game. pats still had to march down the rest of the field and score a TD. it's not like the play set us up 1st and goal

1. They just marched 80 yards in two minutes. They were moving the ball. They would have had first and goal from the eight with 30 seconds left. The Pats defense was gassed. Anyone that isnt a Pats fan would say, and has, that the odds were strongly in favor of the Ravens scoring there.

2. It didnt set up first and goal, but the Pats would have had to punt. And it happened twice. That's a big deal.

To me, the Ngata penalty was the more egregious call.

I'd like to see them start flagging guys for asking for flags.

Yup.

I'm pretty sure you can't drive your fat helmet-headed self at a guy's knees. Just sayin'.

Good thing Suggs didnt do that, then.

since he didn't get hit it isn't roughing.

outside of patriot homers, i haven't heard ANYONE say that was a good call. not commentators, not friends, not sportscenter.

guess i should have known better than to post something anti-brady in a patriots thread and expect people to be reasonable about it

Yeah, but that's to be expected.

The rule says something like you cannot make contact withthe QB below the knees after the ball is released. Suggs did that. End of story.

It might be a stupid rule and a "cheap" penalty on the Ravens, but according to the NFL rules for the 2009 season the right call was made.

And this is the problem. Its more the rules committee than the officials, but fans sorta lump them all together and a criticism of the refs.

As I said before, the NFL tells these refs what's going to be a "point of emphasis," and the refs have to act accordingly. They get graded by the NFL, and those with the best grades get to work the playoffs and Super Bowl. Their jobs and financial future are on the line. Even if they dont think a play warrants a play, theyre mindful of what's being stressed and act accordingly. This is an NFL problem, not an official-on-the-field problem.

how many times do you see in soccer, player doesnt even get touched and falls down pretending to be hurt and bitching about card. how many times in baseball do you see a fielder trap a ball, then play it like its an out? how many times in football do you see a receiver call for flags and bitch about not getting calls?

it happens in every sport at every position. deal with it

Football isnt soccer...except when it is....in other countries.

Fuck.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Umm, cause we weren't in Baltimore, and I don't think the chick with the 1 1/2 year old sitting behind you would have appreciated it. :lol:lol

No worries, I wasn't in Baltimore, I was in DC. I went to my Patriots bar to watch the game.

I was NOT watching that game with my Ravens friends. They annoy the fuck out of me during football season.

Oh, you're a die-hard life-long Ravens fan? really? Wow, 13 years of dedication, I'm impressed.:lol:lol

[pathetic]

Umm, cause we weren't in Baltimore, and I don't think the chick with the 1 1/2 year old sitting behind you would have appreciated it. :lol:lol

btw how was a 1 1/2yr old in the bar? that was kinda weird

No worries, I wasn't in Baltimore, I was in DC. I went to my Patriots bar to watch the game.

I was NOT watching that game with my Ravens friends. They annoy the fuck out of me during football season.

Oh, you're a die-hard life-long Ravens fan? really? Wow, 13 years of dedication, I'm impressed.:lol:lol

:lol oh yeah thats right! you're not in NE

[dmbmuskie]

And this is the problem. Its more the rules committee than the officials, but fans sorta lump them all together and a criticism of the refs.

As I said before, the NFL tells these refs what's going to be a "point of emphasis," and the refs have to act accordingly. They get graded by the NFL, and those with the best grades get to work the playoffs and Super Bowl. Their jobs and financial future are on the line. Even if they dont think a play warrants a play, theyre mindful of what's being stressed and act accordingly. This is an NFL problem, not an official-on-the-field problem.



There is a huge difference betwwen bad officiating and bad rules. The NFL has legislated almost all the gray area out of the rule book over the last few seasons, which can be a good and bad thing. Once we, and more importantly the players, get used to the rules, the bitching will stop. It was not too long ago that every illegal contact penalty was a huge deal, but now it is just part of the game.

[thebestauntie]

No worries, I wasn't in Baltimore, I was in DC. I went to my Patriots bar to watch the game.

I was NOT watching that game with my Ravens friends. They annoy the fuck out of me during football season.

Oh, you're a die-hard life-long Ravens fan? really? Wow, 13 years of dedication, I'm impressed.:lol:lol
Ha ha, I forgot that they annoy you, although I should have remembered. 13 years. :lol
btw how was a 1 1/2yr old in the bar? that was kinda weird

:lol oh yeah thats right! you're not in NE
Yeah, that was weird.

[Crush086]

what odds say that the ravens wouldve punched it in? they were trailing most of the game...

yes, it was a horseshit call, but deal with it. it happens all the time in all sports. what the ref saw was suggs going low on the QB. if brady doesnt jump over him then it couldve been ugly.

i agree, the refs need to do a much better job, but calls like this happen in every football game. pats still had to march down the rest of the field and score a TD. it's not like the play set us up 1st and goal
I know I'm late as heck with this reply, but I'd say the odds were pretty good, considering Flacco moved them all the way to the 14 without much trouble.

As far as the hits to Brady go, Suggs' penalty was indeed questionable.

I still gotta say though, as a Ravens fan, although they did lose, I'm excited with this team and their chances, seeing as how in their first real test of the season against the Pats, they fought all the way to the last second (or well, last 32 seconds).

[pathetic]

I know I'm late as heck with this reply, but I'd say the odds were pretty good, considering Flacco moved them all the way to the 14 without much trouble.

As far as the hits to Brady go, Suggs' penalty was indeed questionable.

I still gotta say though, as a Ravens fan, although they did lose, I'm excited with this team and their chances, seeing as how in their first real test of the season against the Pats, they fought all the way to the last second (or well, last 32 seconds).

yeah, they played a great game and will go far this season...

the suggs play is questionable, but he did exactly what the rule said you cant do. hit high or low on the QB...tough call

[dmbgodagirl41]

Ha ha, I forgot that they annoy you, although I should have remembered. 13 years. :lol

Yeah, that was weird.

Yeah, I was pulling for them last year in the post-season, and all my friends took that as me claiming to be a Ravens fan and that somehow made them pissed off.
Trust me, douchers, I'm die hard NE. I just like being there for my friends because I want them to be happy. For the love of god. :lol

I know I'm late as heck with this reply, but I'd say the odds were pretty good, considering Flacco moved them all the way to the 14 without much trouble.

As far as the hits to Brady go, Suggs' penalty was indeed questionable.

I still gotta say though, as a Ravens fan, although they did lose, I'm excited with this team and their chances, seeing as how in their first real test of the season against the Pats, they fought all the way to the last second (or well, last 32 seconds).

Dude, I had like 3 Bruschi's at the end there. Ravens should have had that catch.

The game was awesome, and both teams are definitely going to the post-season.:thumbsup

[rickyh24]

but they look and play like a 1-3 team

Not really

[thebestauntie]

Yeah, I was pulling for them last year in the post-season, and all my friends took that as me claiming to be a Ravens fan and that somehow made them pissed off.
Trust me, douchers, I'm die hard NE. I just like being there for my friends because I want them to be happy. For the love of god. :lol



Dude, I had like 3 Bruschi's at the end there. Ravens should have had that catch.

The game was awesome, and both teams are definitely going to the post-season.:thumbsup
I'll do that too, when my team isn't involved I will root for my friends teams (unless it's like Pittsburgh or some team that I have to hate).

[pathetic]

they might be 3-1 but they look and play like a 1-3 team

ya you're right. beating 2 playoff teams from last year is making the pats look like a 1-3 team...

let me guess...you're a cowboys fan

[rickyh24]

let me guess...you're a cowboys fan

:lol:lol

[dmbmuskie]

they might be 3-1 but they look and play like a 1-3 team

I think they look like a 4-0 team, if they had Welker healthy against the Jets.

[thebestauntie]

I think they look like a 4-0 team, if they had Welker healthy against the Jets.
I think I love you. Just saying.

[dmbmuskie]

I think I love you. Just saying.

The fans of the good teams need to stick together.

I hate the Pats, but teams like the Jets and Bengals make me sick. Just because you win a few early season does not mean your team is going to the Super Bowl.

[pathetic]

The fans of the good teams need to stick together.

I hate the Pats, but teams like the Jets and Bengals make me sick. Just because you win a few early season does not mean your team is going to the Super Bowl.

and denver :lol

remember they beat that high powered bengals offense week 1

[dmbmuskie]

and denver :lol

remember they beat that high powered bengals offense week 1

Denver might actually make it to the playoffs unless the Chargers can find a way to stop the run. They managed to make Mendenhall look like Bo Jackson last night.

[thebestauntie]

The fans of the good teams need to stick together.

I hate the Pats, but teams like the Jets and Bengals make me sick. Just because you win a few early season does not mean your team is going to the Super Bowl.
That's cool, I hate the Steelers, but I agree with the rest of your post.

[dmbgodagirl41]

The fans of the good teams need to stick together.

I hate the Pats, but teams like the Jets and Bengals make me sick. Just because you win a few early season does not mean your team is going to the Super Bowl.

What are you talking about? FIRST ROOKIE QB TO GO 3-0 IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL MEANS THAT THE SUPERBOWL TITLE IS CLEARLY DESERVED!!!!!11one!!111oneF12!!!!

[dmbmuskie]

That's cool, I hate the Steelers, but I agree with the rest of your post.

I'm actually rooting for the Pats this year. I want to see the Steelers win a Super Bowl where they beat NE on the way.

[dmbmuskie]

What are you talking about? FIRST ROOKIE QB TO GO 3-0 IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL MEANS THAT THE SUPERBOWL TITLE IS CLEARLY DESERVED!!!!!11one!!111oneF12!!!!



I wonder how they're going to handle the fact that chances are that their beloved Sanchise is going to play closer to how he did yesterday than in the first 3 games the rest of the season.

[thebestauntie]

I'm actually rooting for the Pats this year. I want to see the Steelers win a Super Bowl where they beat NE on the way.
It is a hollow victory without that isn't it? ;)
I wonder how they're going to handle the fact that chances are that their beloved Sanchise is going to play closer to how he did yesterday than in the first 3 games the rest of the season.
They'll probably do a lot of this :lorraine :lorraine :lorraine

[dmbgodagirl41]

I wonder how they're going to handle the fact that chances are that their beloved Sanchise is going to play closer to how he did yesterday than in the first 3 games the rest of the season.

Not to sound like the "typical" New England fan, but I agree with this. The Jets really have no good offensive weapons, and like you said, I think the "won" that game against NE because Wes wasn't in there.

If the Pats of yesterday showed up against the Jets in week 2, the Jets would have been killed. Not like they won 31-9. It was by a touchdown.

[dmbmuskie]

It is a hollow victory without that isn't it? ;)

In some ways it is.

[dmbmuskie]

Not to sound like the "typical" New England fan, but I agree with this. The Jets really have no good offensive weapons, and like you said, I think the "won" that game against NE because Wes wasn't in there.

If the Pats of yesterday showed up against the Jets in week 2, the Jets would have been killed. Not like they won 31-9. It was by a touchdown.

I think the rematch will be interesting. If the Jets were smart they'd stick Revis on Welker.

[thebestauntie]

In some ways it is.
:faints

[thebestauntie]

I think the rematch will be interesting. If the Jets were smart they'd stick Revis on Welker.
I cannot wait for the rematch. The Pats are looking better each week, still not where I'd like them to be, but definitely heading in the right direction.

[Crush086]

yeah, they played a great game and will go far this season...

the suggs play is questionable, but he did exactly what the rule said you cant do. hit high or low on the QB...tough call
I see why the flag was thrown, but it was obvious that Suggs was "assisted" if you will with reaching Brady's knees. It's not like he went in by himself and aimed for Tom's knees. The thing I have the problem with is that yes, he was flagged for it, but the ref's didn't even notice him pushed in Brady's direction (by yes, a Patriot). Not only that, but Tom didn't even have to flop to make the penalty. He just jumped up and pointed at Suggs.

I think the penalty needs to be readdressed. If a player goes at him on his own free will, flag him, but if he's pushed or has any interaction with a blocker/lineman that leads him to the QB's knees, it should be ruled incidental contact, much like incidental interference on passes.

[Beebz]

I see why the flag was thrown, but it was obvious that Suggs was "assisted" if you will with reaching Brady's knees. It's not like he went in by himself and aimed for Tom's knees. The thing I have the problem with is that yes, he was flagged for it, but the ref's didn't even notice him pushed in Brady's direction (by yes, a Patriot). Not only that, but Tom didn't even have to flop to make the penalty. He just jumped up and pointed at Suggs.

I think the penalty needs to be readdressed. If a player goes at him on his own free will, flag him, but if he's pushed or has any interaction with a blocker/lineman that leads him to the QB's knees, it should be ruled incidental contact, much like incidental interference on passes.

Yup, its an NFL problem. You cant hit the QB high or low anymore. Does that sound asinine to anyone else?

[pathetic]

I think the rematch will be interesting. If the Jets were smart they'd stick Revis on Welker.

but revis played so well on moss!!! that's why he'll prob stay on moss and welker will get 100+ yards in the rematch

i hope it's snowing

I cannot wait for the rematch. The Pats are looking better each week, still not where I'd like them to be, but definitely heading in the right direction.

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I see why the flag was thrown, but it was obvious that Suggs was "assisted" if you will with reaching Brady's knees. It's not like he went in by himself and aimed for Tom's knees. The thing I have the problem with is that yes, he was flagged for it, but the ref's didn't even notice him pushed in Brady's direction (by yes, a Patriot). Not only that, but Tom didn't even have to flop to make the penalty. He just jumped up and pointed at Suggs.

I think the penalty needs to be readdressed. If a player goes at him on his own free will, flag him, but if he's pushed or has any interaction with a blocker/lineman that leads him to the QB's knees, it should be ruled incidental contact, much like incidental interference on passes.

agreed

[dmbmuskie]

Yup, its an NFL problem. You cant hit the QB high or low anymore. Does that sound asinine to anyone else?

It's just the evolution of the game.

[pathetic]

Yup, its an NFL problem. You cant hit the QB high or low anymore. Does that sound asinine to anyone else?

yes, it's incredibly dumb, but look what happens when you hit the QB high...hhe gets a concussion. when you hit him low, he tears his acl...this is just one of the rules in football where they need to protect the QB, but they are doing a little bit of overprotecting the QB

[Beebz]

It's just the evolution of the game.

Doesnt mean it isnt asinine. You brush the QBs face, its 15 yards. You run into his legs, its 15 yards. You hit him a nanosecond after the ball is thrown, its 15 yards.

I understand the QB is unprotected (except for that giant line who, you know, protects him) but its evolved into absurdity. If anyone should be protected its wideouts.

Use judgment. Determine intent. This has nothing to do with yesterday's game, it just highlighted an issue that's ruined the NFL for years now. The league wanted more scoring to draw in more fans so they enacted rules that promoted offense--illegal contact, emphasizing PI, penalties for hitting defenseless receivers, fines for tough hits. And it worked.

There hasnt been a single rule change in a decade that has benefitted a defender, but plenty for the offense.

Either dial back the flags or shorten the penalties. Make it five yards and a first down, or 10 yards but no automatic first. Too many times QBs fall down on third-and-27 and draw a flag. Its ridiculous.

[dmbmuskie]

Doesnt mean it isnt asinine. You brush the QBs face, its 15 yards. You run into his legs, its 15 yards. You hit him a nanosecond after the ball is thrown, its 15 yards.

I understand the QB is unprotected (except for that giant line who, you know, protects him) but its evolved into absurdity. If anyone should be protected its wideouts.

Use judgment. Determine intent. This has nothing to do with yesterday's game, it just highlighted an issue that's ruined the NFL for years now. The league wanted more scoring to draw in more fans so they enacted rules that promoted offense--illegal contact, emphasizing PI, penalties for hitting defenseless receivers, fines for tough hits. And it worked.

There hasnt been a single rule change in a decade that has benefitted a defender, but plenty for the offense.

Either dial back the flags or shorten the penalties. Make it five yards and a first down, or 10 yards but no automatic first. Too many times QBs fall down on third-and-27 and draw a flag. Its ridiculous.


It is a tough call. I think intent needs to be a part of what happens in officiating, but you cannot consistently interpret intent every game, which would be a far larger issue than guys getting used to the new rules.

The defense has gotten a few rule changes to benefit them over the last decade.

[Crush086]

It is a tough call. I think intent needs to be a part of what happens in officiating, but you cannot consistently interpret intent every game, which would be a far larger issue than guys getting used to the new rules.

The defense has gotten a few rule changes to benefit them over the last decade.
You can't interpret intent, but reviewing how the player reached the QB would help. If they watch the replay (or perhaps the line judge could assist) and they could decide whether it was intentional or not.

Either that or not having the auto first and 15 yards. That's brutal.

[thebestauntie]

You can't interpret intent, but reviewing how the player reached the QB would help. If they watch the replay (or perhaps the line judge could assist) and they could decide whether it was intentional or not.

Either that or not having the auto first and 15 yards. That's brutal.
That's almost a good idea, but then you're looking at replays all the time and slowing the game down to a crawl. That won't work.

edit: I do thing not having it a 15 yarder and not an automatic first down is a good idea though.

[dmbmuskie]

You can't interpret intent, but reviewing how the player reached the QB would help. If they watch the replay (or perhaps the line judge could assist) and they could decide whether it was intentional or not.

Either that or not having the auto first and 15 yards. That's brutal.

I just think black and white works so much better.

I really don't pay much attention to what Suggs does when watching the Ravens, but do you think he gets held a lot?

Harrisson gets absolutely assaulted on nearly every play, but they won't call it unless his feet reach a certain point in relation to the blocker. The inconsistency in which it is called is the worst part about it.

[pathetic]

the rule sucks, but it's the best they can do without slowing the game down. who wants 4 1/2 hour football games?

[pathetic]

LOL the only reason this is even a big deal is because it involves the pats.

if carson palmer did this yesterday and got the flag it wouldnt even make espn...just another reason for people to bitch cause the pats won again

[dmbmuskie]

LOL the only reason this is even a big deal is because it involves the pats.

if carson palmer did this yesterday and got the flag it wouldnt even make espn...just another reason for people to bitch cause

The Ravens bitching and moaning defense and the Pats bitching an moaning offense really create the perfect storm of bitching and moaning.

[pathetic]

the ravens bitching and moaning defense and the pats bitching an moaning offense really create the perfect storm of bitching and moaning.

pms bowl ftmfw

[thebestauntie]

pms bowl ftmfw
:thumbsup:lol

[Crush086]

That's almost a good idea, but then you're looking at replays all the time and slowing the game down to a crawl. That won't work.

edit: I do thing not having it a 15 yarder and not an automatic first down is a good idea though.
Well, it's not like we're seeing flags come out 7-10 times a game. Yesterday's for example, there were only two instances on where a flag was even thrown. It'd be pretty much identical to how they handle the pass intereference calls. Flag is tossed, refs congregate, then an intentional/incidental decision is assessed. I'm not 100% sure on how many refs are on the field, but I'd think the line judge could say how the player got there (since again, it's likely a blocker on the line that would initiate the contact with defender) and the backfield judge (assuming there is one) could say, yeah, he hit the knees. This is how Suggs' play could have gone:

Play is run, flag comes out. Ref's come together. Ref one says Suggs hit Brady's knee. Ref two says "Patriot number so and so caused him to stumble into Tom." Ref one says "okay, we'll rule it incidental". Done

[dmbmuskie]

Well, it's not like we're seeing flags come out 7-10 times a game. Yesterday's for example, there were only two instances on where a flag was even thrown. It'd be pretty much identical to how they handle the pass intereference calls. Flag is tossed, refs congregate, then an intentional/incidental decision is assessed. I'm not 100% sure on how many refs are on the field, but I'd think the line judge could say how the player got there (since again, it's likely a blocker on the line that would initiate the contact with defender) and the backfield judge (assuming there is one) could say, yeah, he hit the knees. This is how Suggs' play could have gone:

Play is run, flag comes out. Ref's come together. Ref one says Suggs hit Brady's knee. Ref two says "Patriot number so and so caused him to stumble into Tom." Ref one says "okay, we'll rule it incidental". Done

The only guy who should be watching the QB is the "Referee"

You get conferences on the passing penalties because multiple factors go into the call. Was the ball tipped? D id the QB break the pocket? Was the ball in the air when contact was made? Was the ball catchable? etc.

[Crush086]

I still think there should be more to it on these plays, since the penalty is so outrageous.

It is what it is for now I guess...

I look forward to a potential rematch with the Pats though, seeing as how the chances they meet again are pretty good.

[rickyh24]

Ravens suck lololololol

[thebestauntie]

Well, it's not like we're seeing flags come out 7-10 times a game. Yesterday's for example, there were only two instances on where a flag was even thrown. It'd be pretty much identical to how they handle the pass intereference calls. Flag is tossed, refs congregate, then an intentional/incidental decision is assessed. I'm not 100% sure on how many refs are on the field, but I'd think the line judge could say how the player got there (since again, it's likely a blocker on the line that would initiate the contact with defender) and the backfield judge (assuming there is one) could say, yeah, he hit the knees. This is how Suggs' play could have gone:

Play is run, flag comes out. Ref's come together. Ref one says Suggs hit Brady's knee. Ref two says "Patriot number so and so caused him to stumble into Tom." Ref one says "okay, we'll rule it incidental". Done
It's never that simple. No two people see an event the same way, you'll have multiple opinions to talk it out, it would slow the game unnecessarily.

[rickyh24]

I already get so damn annoyed when a Challenge flag gets thrown out there. I don't want shit like that happening anymore than it does.

[Crush086]

Ravens suck lololololol
Same record as the Patsies, so they suck too! lololololol

[rickyh24]

Same record as the Patsies, so they suck too! lololololol

but they beat the Ravens so they suck a little less lololololololo

[pathetic]

anyone interested in joining a franchise for madden 360?

[Crush086]

but they beat the Ravens so they suck a little less lololololololo
But they lost to the J-E-T-S Scrubs scrubs scrubs!!

So they suck a little bit more! lolololololol

[thebestauntie]

But they lost to the J-E-T-S Scrubs scrubs scrubs!!

So they suck a little bit more! lolololololol
And the Ravens lost to the team that lost to the Jets, what does that say about them? :p Blolololololololololololololololo

[Crush086]

And the Ravens lost to the team that lost to the Jets, what does that say about them? :p Blolololololololololololololololo
Stop making sense.

[thebestauntie]

Stop making sense.
As soon as you stop breathing. ;)

[Crush086]

As soon as you stop breathing. ;)
I'll be trolling the Red Sox thread double time for that one.

[pathetic]

I'll be trolling the Red Sox thread double time for that one.

...wtf LA...

[thebestauntie]

I'll be trolling the Red Sox thread double time for that one.
Oooh, I'm scared now. :rolleyes

[pathetic]

Oooh, I'm scared now. :rolleyes

lester>joba

sig it

[thebestauntie]

...wtf LA...
Pfft please, he's a mosquito, El Mosquero is what we should call him now.

[pathetic]

Pfft please, he's a mosquito, El Mosquero is what we should call him now.

the masculine mosquito? my spanish is a little off

[thebestauntie]

the masculine mosquito? my spanish is a little off
Actually mosquero is "flytrap" but I like the sound of it better.

[Crush086]

Pfft please, he's a mosquito, El Mosquero is what we should call him now.
I'm Mexican, and you're using jokes in spanish? :eek

Color me offended and color you racist! :lorraine

[thebestauntie]

I'm Mexican, and you're using jokes in spanish? :eek

Color me offended and color you racist! :lorraine
What language would you like me to use to make jokes of you in, huh El Mosquero?

[pathetic]

I'm Mexican, and you're using jokes in spanish? :eek

Color me offended and color you racist! :lorraine

you're mexican? i thought you were white

[thebestauntie]

you're mexican? i thought you were white
His real name is Alejandro, which is sexy, even though he's not.

[Crush086]

What language would you like me to use to make jokes of you in, huh El Mosquero?
English, you cracker. That name sounds like a damn rip off villian or something...
you're mexican? i thought you were white
wtf? What about my posting gives you a white boy vibe?

[thebestauntie]

English, you cracker. That name sounds like a damn rip off villian or something...

wtf? What about my posting gives you a white boy vibe?
I had a Puerto Rican friend who used to call me El Mosquero because I had this black and white shirt that I guess reminded him of flies. :lol

[pathetic]

English, you cracker. That name sounds like a damn rip off villian or something...

wtf? What about my posting gives you a white boy vibe?

idk man...i thought one of my friends on here was black before i met him at DC...i guess i have the image of who you are in my head...you're somewhere between joba and flacco

[Crush086]

His real name is Alejandro, which is sexy, even though he's not.
She lies.

[SoRight24]

I'm not a racist, but is it wrong that I picture everybody on message boards as being white? :lol

[TwoStep2888]

I'm not a racist, but is it wrong that I picture everybody on message boards as being white? :lol

In this case, it's a DMB message board, so you're probably correct like 99.9% of the time.

[DMBstandUP1984]

ya you're right. beating 2 playoff teams from last year is making the pats look like a 1-3 team...

let me guess...you're a cowboys fan

Im a Cowboys/Colts fan

and face it, take away that fumble on the kick off week 1, a couple of shitty calls on the ravens, and a dropped ball on 4/3 and the pats are 2-2. They always win on some stupid "god" play or a penelty that should not have been called. Flacco did not get half the calls Brady was getting. He is like the Jordan of football.

P.S. Manning is on pace for a Career year and is doing it without Gonzalez and Harrison

[pathetic]

Im a Cowboys/Colts fan

and face it, take away that fumble on the kick off week 1, a couple of shitty calls on the ravens, and a dropped ball on 4/3 and the pats are 2-2. They always win on some stupid "god" play or a penelty that should not have been called. Flacco did not get half the calls Brady was getting. He is like the Jordan of football.

P.S. Manning is on pace for a Career year and is doing it without Gonzalez and Harrison

hahahahahahahahaha babahahahahaha i was right! i knew it just by the way you post...


woooooooo

[pathetic]

Im a Cowboys/Colts fan

and face it, take away that fumble on the kick off week 1, a couple of shitty calls on the ravens, and a dropped ball on 4/3 and the pats are 2-2. They always win on some stupid "god" play or a penelty that should not have been called. Flacco did not get half the calls Brady was getting. He is like the Jordan of football.

P.S. Manning is on pace for a Career year and is doing it without Gonzalez and Harrison

a shitty call on the ravens? pats were ahead the whole game and just cause the ravens drove downfield doesnt mean it's easy to punch it in the endzone...

and dont tell me the pats look like shit when tony romo didnt even know what down it was when he threw the incomplete pass at the end of the game. he was calling his team back to huddle! :lol :lol

oh and peyton is on pace for a great year :D i have nothing against peyton. he's the best QB in football

[SoRight24]

A Cowboys/Colts fan?

That's rich....

[cward]

Screw the Patriots! Go Colts!!

[pathetic]

A Cowboys/Colts fan?

That's rich....

:lol

[thebestauntie]

A Cowboys/Colts fan?

That's rich....
I know right, kinda like being a Red Sox/Celtics/Jets fan.

Oh wait.

[SoRight24]

I know right, kinda like being a Red Sox/Celtics/Jets fan.

Oh wait.

You listen here, LA. :lol

You know I am all Boston at heart.....just not in football.

[thebestauntie]

You listen here, LA. :lol

You know I am all Boston at heart.....just not in football.
:D Love you Travis! (Just not during football season ;)) :lol

[SoRight24]

:D Love you Travis! (Just not during football season ;)) :lol

Right back atcha. :hug:hug

[DMBstandUP1984]

a shitty call on the ravens? pats were ahead the whole game and just cause the ravens drove downfield doesnt mean it's easy to punch it in the endzone...

and dont tell me the pats look like shit when tony romo didnt even know what down it was when he threw the incomplete pass at the end of the game. he was calling his team back to huddle! :lol :lol

oh and peyton is on pace for a great year :D i have nothing against peyton. he's the best QB in football

As far as the cowboys, I was born into being a Cowboys and it just stuck with me for the last 25 years. As for Romo....well I'm sure he will figure it out one day. If he is going to be the superstar QB he looks like he can be or the hack he also looks like he can be.

The Colts i was always a Peyton Manning fan College-NFL and when you hate the Pats and Manning is the QB for the colts..it just happens.

And yes Peyton is the best QB in football...so at least we agree on something...oh and i love the red sox

[rickyh24]

A Cowboys/Colts fan?

That's rich....

blollolololo

[rickyh24]

I know right, kinda like being a Red Sox/Celtics/Jets fan.

Oh wait.

lolololololololololololollolo

[pathetic]

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nfl/news/story?id=4542936

taylor having ankle surgery...wtf

[rickyh24]

that sucks.

[thebestauntie]

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nfl/news/story?id=4542936

taylor having ankle surgery...wtf
Great. :rolleyes

[SoRight24]

The chance you take with an old running back.

[rickyh24]

^ Oh Rly?

[pathetic]

The chance you take with an old running back.

thats why we have 4 others that are capable of starting every week

[rickyh24]

Touchdown!!

[hbktonyb]

Could this team be any luckier...2 1st downs on a punt penalty.

[rickyh24]

Could this team be any luckier...2 1st downs on a punt penalty.

and then they get a taunting call that is probably going to cost the game. How lucky!

[RJP2741]

Welp, this sucks. Not a good day to be a Boston sports fan.

[RJP2741]

Celtics!!!

[rickyh24]

fuck this team.

[gonz085]

please, keep laughing. cowboys thought they'd plow thru us and we completely shut them down. keep making us the underdog. then we'll see what happens next week

:lol @ dever

:lol even harder @ Dallas

Huh?? :confused

:lol:lol:lol

funny huh? look who's laughing now

[rickyh24]

Yeah The Phillies/Broncos fan is laughing :lol

[gonz085]

Yeah The Phillies/Broncos fan is laughing :lol

i like obscure teams. I have family in Denver, have been a Denver fan all of my life. phillies were the team that got me into baseball, my hockey team is the oilers. i hope ur not assuming im a bandwagon jumper, i mean i made the damn thread about denver in here back when they were choking the season away to SD. i'm just saying that it's funny how u guys laughed at the thought of denver beating u guys, and they did

[mattyf878]

Grow the fuck up McDaniels

[Drwbllz]

Grow the fuck up McDaniels



He's 5-0. I'd say he's all grows up.

[rickyh24]

i like obscure teams. I have family in Denver, have been a Denver fan all of my life. phillies were the team that got me into baseball, my hockey team is the oilers. i hope ur not assuming im a bandwagon jumper, i mean i made the damn thread about denver in here back when they were choking the season away to SD. i'm just saying that it's funny how u guys laughed at the thought of denver beating u guys, and they did

When did you get into baseball???

[rickyh24]

He's 5-0. I'd say he's all grows up.

I think hes talking about the behavior on the field. He let his emotions show a little too much IMO. They squeaked by. Its not like they dominated. The classy thing would have been to go shake Bill's hand then head in a celebrate. He looked like a little kid who has never won a game. He didn't look like the coach of a 5-0 team.

[hbktonyb]

1. Terrible day for Boston fans :lol

2. I can't wait for the Broncos to finish the season 9-7.

[mattyf878]

He's 5-0. I'd say he's all grows up.

That doesn't excuse acting like a complete dickhead after a week 5 win. We'll see you in the playoffs there Josh.

[gonz085]

When did you get into baseball???

probably about 6 years ago. I never really like it growing up, but my hometown station only showed Phillies games so I started watching religiously and got hooked. last year was one of the greatest times of my life being in philly for college and having them win the World Series

[TwoStep2888]

2. I can't wait for the Broncos to finish the season 9-7.

Kyle Orton just wins games. they will go 15-1, only to lose to the Bengals in the AFC Championship, who in turn will lose to the San Francisco 49ers in the Super Bowl.

What a weird fucking year.

[Tiduwho]

Brady's MVP days are over.

[seekupig]

2. I can't wait for the Broncos to finish the season 9-7.

not likely. they still play the Chiefs (twice), Raiders, and Redskins. those four wins alone gets them to 9 wins. they'll win at least two of the other ones. they look like an 11-5 team to me.

[SoRight24]

blolololololo

[hbktonyb]

Pats 8-8, Broncos 11-5, Jets 13-3.

[rickyh24]

^ :lol

[seekupig]

Pats 8-8, Broncos 11-5, Jets 13-3.

Pats 10-6, Broncos 11-5, Jets 11-5

[hbktonyb]

^ :lol

Sox '10: 85-77

[rickyh24]

Sox '10: 85-77

why so generous?

[pathetic]

whats next for the east coast? no more tour dates would ruin my year

[rickyh24]

DMB Sucks, Tom Brady Sucks, Jonathan Papelbon Sucks.

[pathetic]

DMB Sucks, Tom Brady Sucks, Jonathan Papelbon Sucks.

wooooooooooooo

[SoRight24]

Josh McDaniels was about to murder his special teams coach.

Did you see that glare he gave him? :lol

[rickyh24]

:lol Yeah he was pissed.

I'm still surprised how off Brady still is. If he could hit an open Moss or hit Welker in stride instead of making him dive for balls they would have won this game by 2 TD's.

[seekupig]

I'm still surprised how off Brady still is. If he could hit an open Moss or hit Welker in stride instead of making him dive for balls they would have won this game by 2 TD's.

it's strange for sure. i think he's good physically, but mentally he's not right. his timing seems to be off and i think that might be him getting rid of the ball a little too quickly because he's scared to get hit. he's not stepping into throws the way he used to when the pocket starts collapsing. hopefully for you guys, he gets over it.

[SoRight24]

:lol Yeah he was pissed.

I'm still surprised how off Brady still is. If he could hit an open Moss or hit Welker in stride instead of making him dive for balls they would have won this game by 2 TD's.

Yeah, those were all on Brady.

[RJP2741]

:lol Yeah he was pissed.

I'm still surprised how off Brady still is. If he could hit an open Moss or hit Welker in stride instead of making him dive for balls they would have won this game by 2 TD's.

Those two to Welker were brutal. Twice if he led Welker he was gone for TD's and they were low or behind him. The rust has to wear off eventually though, amirite?

[dmbgodagirl41]

DMB Sucks, Tom Brady Sucks, Jonathan Papelbon Sucks.

okay, first time i've lauged in about 5 hours. :lol

[dmbgodagirl41]

I can't believe Kyle FUCKING Orton pretty much bent the pats over and made them squeal like a pig.
On a more cynical note, is it horrible that I cheered about as much when Light went down as I did when Bledsoe went down?


And I"m not sure how, but this is all Gisele's fault.

[rickyh24]

okay, first time i've lauged in about 5 hours. :lol

:) Glad I could help.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Fitzy has this thing up on facebook that I also laughed at really hard. It was a picture of Papelbon excited and under it, the caption was "Here we see Red Sox closer Jonathan Papelbon, right before he punched himself, and all of Red Sox Nation, right in the dick".

That made me LOL pretty hard, too.
He also has this: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/note.php?note_id=302627455622&ref=mf


:lol he's awesome.

[rickyh24]

Brady pretty much just needs to get his head out of his ass. Denver is NOT a better team than The Pats. If he can just fix whatever is going wrong with his timing then he will be fine. If his timing was on today they win by 2 Td's.

[rickyh24]

Fitzy has this thing up on facebook that I also laughed at really hard. It was a picture of Papelbon excited and under it, the caption was "Here we see Red Sox closer Jonathan Papelbon, right before he punched himself, and all of Red Sox Nation, right in the dick".

That made me LOL pretty hard, too.
He also has this: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/note.php?note_id=302627455622&ref=mf


:lol he's awesome.

:lol:lol:lol:lol

[thebestauntie]

What the heck? How did the fricken Broncos score 13 unanswered points against the Pats? Man what a crappy weekend for New England sports, I'm glad I missed it all.

[rickyh24]

What the heck? How did the fricken Broncos score 13 unanswered points against the Pats? Man what a crappy weekend for New England sports, I'm glad I missed it all.

Because Matt Cassell > Tom Brady

[thebestauntie]

Because Matt Cassell > Tom Brady
:eek :lol :lol

[smudge1]

What the heck? How did the fricken Broncos score 13 unanswered points against the Pats? Man what a crappy weekend for New England sports, I'm glad I missed it all.you always have next weekend to watch the Pats lose to the Titans.:lol

[thebestauntie]

you always have next weekend to watch the Pats lose to the Titans.:lol
Ha ha, I'm not really too worried about losing to the Titans. :lol

[rickyh24]

If Brady keeps throwing the ball like he has been this team can lose to almost anyone.

[pathetic]

Because Matt Cassell > Tom Brady

bahahahahahaahaha

[SoRight24]

blolololololo

[jmudmbphan]

peyton>brady

this really shouldnt even be an argument anymore.

[rickyh24]

peyton>brady

this really shouldnt even be an argument anymore.

k....

[rickyh24]

Clearly Tom Brady should be back to form by now after a season ending injury the year before. He hasn't played great for a whole 5 games now. He sucks. Jmdump try to keep your stupid trolling in the Sox thread. K ? thanks!!

[dmbgodagirl41]

peyton>brady

this really shouldnt even be an argument anymore.

Howso? The colts started their 2008 seaons after Manning's injury at 3-2.

I mean, I think that Manning is better than Brady, but I'm not sure what them losing yesterday had to do with that....

[rickyh24]

Howso? The colts started their 2008 seaons after Manning's injury at 3-2.

I mean, I think that Manning is better than Brady, but I'm not sure what them losing yesterday had to do with that....

Nothing that happen so far this season has anything to do with Manning being better than Brady.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Nothing that happen so far this season has anything to do with Manning being better than Brady.

Okay, thanks Ricky. I seriously thought I missed something/needed to backread. :lol I wasn't really sure what the logic was.

Good to know. Carry on!

[pathetic]

peyton manning is the best QB in the NFL and he's the best pure talent QB the NFL has seen or will see in a long time. i cant imagine someone comes in the league and runs a show better than him

[timg1414]

Jr. has been picked up by the Pats. I am not sure this move is going to have much influence on the field but I think it will help some of the younger LBs learn the game.

[raven23]

Jr. has been picked up by the Pats. I am not sure this move is going to have much influence on the field but I think it will help some of the younger LBs learn the game.

How many times is he going to have to come out of retirement? :lol Wish we kept Vrabel around, he could have filled that leadership role nicely. Mayo and Guyton look promising to me.

[pathetic]

Jr. has been picked up by the Pats. I am not sure this move is going to have much influence on the field but I think it will help some of the younger LBs learn the game.

wooooooo hope he doesnt break his arm again

[LisaH]

First place!!!!!

:multi :multi

[thebestauntie]

First place!!!!!

:multi :multi
I'll allow it.

[LisaH]

lol oops. Accountusagefail.

[thebestauntie]

lol oops. Accountusagefail.
:lol! That's okay, it's kinda sexy seeing Lisa post that stuff in here. ;)

[rickyh24]

ahhh thats better


P-A-T-R-I-O-T-S!!!

[UNHDMBfan]

Maybe Maroney doesn't suck? I'm still not ready to trust him.

[RJP2741]

I don't think we can take anything away from this game really, that defense was atrocious.

[pathetic]

I don't think we can take anything away from this game really, that defense was atrocious.

sure you can. brady hadnt completed a pass over 40 yards this season untiil today.