Bushisms

[crosscg]

"And if you're interested in the quality of education and you're paying attention to what you hear at Laclede, why don't you volunteer? Why don't you mentor a child how to read?" —George W. Bush, St. Louis, Mo., Jan. 5, 2004

"The truth of that matter is, if you listen carefully, Saddam would still be in power if he were the president of the United States, and the world would be a lot better off." —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004

"After standing on the stage, after the debates, I made it very plain, we will not have an all-volunteer army. And yet, this week — we will have an all-volunteer army. Let me restate that." —George W. Bush, Daytona Beach, Fla., Oct. 16, 2004 (Watch video (http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushvideos/v/bushismdraft.htm))

"Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." —George W. Bush, Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004 (Watch video clip (http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushvideos/v/bushismobgyn.htm))

"I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft." —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004 (Watch video (http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushismvideos/v/rumorsinternets.htm))

"Then you wake up at the high school level and find out that the illiteracy level of our children are appalling." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

"When a drug comes in from Canada, I wanna make sure it cures ya, not kill ya... I've got an obligation to make sure our government does everything we can to protect you. And one — my worry is that it looks like it's from Canada, and it might be from a third world." —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004

"Free societies are hopeful societies. And free societies will be allies against these hateful few who have no conscience, who kill at the whim of a hat." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 17, 2004

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004 (Watch video clip (http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushvideos/v/bushismvideo.htm))

"We all thought there was weapons there, Robin. My opponent thought there was weapons there." —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004

"Let me put it to you bluntly. In a changing world, we want more people to have control over your own life." —George W. Bush, Annandale, Va, Aug. 9, 2004

"I hope you leave here and walk out and say, 'What did he say?'" —George W. Bush, Beaverton, Oregon, Aug. 13, 2004

[GreenJester]

Any Kerryisms yet? I've been trying to listen closely whenever he's on television. Haven't caught anything of this magnitude yet.

Our president is a nice guy. But he's not an articulate public speaker. But hey, he's just the president, representing our country all around the world. That's no big thing, right?

[Number27]

Kerryisms are sad, not funny like Bushisms.

[TwoStep2888]

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden.
It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
-- George W. Bush 9-13-2001



"I don't know where he (bin Laden) is. I have no idea and I really don't care.
It's not that important. It's not our priority."
-- George W. Bush 3-13-2002



This thread should be called "BushSpeak... NOTHING but BushSpeak"

[crosscg]

I've been trying to find some Kerryisms that are funny, but all he has is long winded quotes that just bloat his speeches more than add substance. They really aren't any fun to read.

[crosscg]

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden.


It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
-- George W. Bush 9-13-2001



"I don't know where he (bin Laden) is. I have no idea and I really don't care.
It's not that important. It's not our priority."
-- George W. Bush 3-13-2002



This thread should be called "BushSpeak... NOTHING but BushSpeak"
No way, i'm all for hitting both sides. But there should be no defending either one of them!

[Holla9]

I've been trying to find some Kerryisms that are funny, but all he has is long winded quotes that just bloat his speeches more than add substance. They really aren't any fun to read.

Look in your sig :)


Heres another:

"The president, I don't think, is living in a world of reality with respect to the environment. Now, if you're a Red Sox fan, that's OK. But, if you're a president, it's not" - John Kerry

[crosscg]

Look in your sig :)


Heres another:

"The president, I don't think, is living in a world of reality with respect to the environment. Now, if you're a Red Sox fan, that's OK. But, if you're a president, it's not" - John Kerry
They just don't pack the same punch.

[GreenJester]

They just don't pack the same punch.
No, they don't. That was actually a decent joke from Kerry. :D

[RJ2kWJ]

"Weapons of Mass Destruction are being smuggled across the Iraqi border every day." - John Kerry, First Debate

"My favorite current Boston Red Sox player is Manny Ortiz." - John Kerry, September 2004.

"There was no terrorism in Iraq before we went to war." - John Kerry, September 2004.

"I will fight a more sensitive war on terror..." - John Kerry, August 2004

[crosscg]

"Weapons of Mass Destruction are being smuggled across the Iraqi border every day." - John Kerry, First Debate

"My favorite current Boston Red Sox player is Manny Ortiz." - John Kerry, September 2004.

"There was no terrorism in Iraq before we went to war." - John Kerry, September 2004.

"I will fight a more sensitive war on terror..." - John Kerry, August 2004

I'll give you the middle 2 as good ones, but the others hardly compare to some of Bush's lamest quotes for humors sake.

[clemson357]

who kill at the whim of a hat." —George W. Bush,

I have to admit, that is funny

[RJ2kWJ]

I'll give you the middle 2 as good ones, but the others hardly compare to some of Bush's lamest quotes for humors sake.
Oh I know but I had tot hrow something out. :)

[crosscg]

Oh I know but I had tot hrow something out. :)I tried sifting through Kerry stuff for humor... he talks too damn much.

[EatSleepJeep]

"I'm honored to shake the hand of a brave Iraqi citizen who had his hand cut off by Saddam Hussein."—George Dubya Bush, Washington, D.C., May 25, 2004

"That's why I went to the Congress last September and proposed fundamental—supplemental funding, which is money for armor and body parts and ammunition and fuel."—George Dubya Bush, Erie, Pa., Sept. 4, 2004

[TwoStep2888]

"I'm honored to shake the hand of a brave Iraqi citizen who had his hand cut off by Saddam Hussein."—George Dubya Bush, Washington, D.C., May 25, 2004
:lol I can't believe he said that. Oh, wait... actually I can.

[MinaretScreamin]

i like this thread :thumbsup

[jrock5730]

"I'm not the expert on how the Iraqi people think, because I live in America, where it's nice and safe and secure." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 23, 2004

[GreenJester]

"I'm not the expert on how the Iraqi people think, because I live in America, where it's nice and safe and secure." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 23, 2004

Honestly... can you picture Kerry saying something this ignorant? Bush's worst lines come because he gets flustered and angry standing up at the podium. He has no real confidence in what he's saying, and so he gets tongue-tied and confused.

This is not what we need in a leader, guys...

[Holla9]

Honestly... can you picture Kerry saying something this ignorant? Bush's worst lines come because he gets flustered and angry standing up at the podium. He has no real confidence in what he's saying, and so he gets tongue-tied and confused.

This is not what we need in a leader, guys...

And Kerry can't make up his damn mind.

[Rob]

If the worst thing that people can come up with against Kerry is the tired flip-flop argument, I'd say he's doing pretty well. At least Kerry will admit when he's wrong, rather than continuing to get people killed.

[clemson357]

Honestly... can you picture Kerry saying something this ignorant? Bush's worst lines come because he gets flustered and angry standing up at the podium. He has no real confidence in what he's saying, and so he gets tongue-tied and confused.

This is not what we need in a leader, guys...

the man just tends to misspeak. you probably would to if you gave 300+ speaches a year.

can you really claim to know the exact reason? or are you just making that up? Do you have first hand knowledge of the president's confidence/anger problem, and if you do can you link it directly to his tendency to get tongue-tied? I doubt it.

[jrock5730]

the man just tends to misspeak. you probably would to if you gave 300+ speaches a year.

can you really claim to know the exact reason? or are you just making that up? Do you have first hand knowledge of the president's confidence/anger problem, and if you do can you link it directly to his tendency to get tongue-tied? I doubt it.

People come up with an excuse for everything this President does, its sad.

[GreenJester]

the man just tends to misspeak. you probably would to if you gave 300+ speaches a year.

can you really claim to know the exact reason? or are you just making that up? Do you have first hand knowledge of the president's confidence/anger problem, and if you do can you link it directly to his tendency to get tongue-tied? I doubt it.



If an average citizen like me can see these character traits in a dozen televised speeches a year, then I'm pretty sure the leaders of other nations can see it, too.

[Holla9]

If the worst thing that people can come up with against Kerry is the tired flip-flop argument, I'd say he's doing pretty well. At least Kerry will admit when he's wrong, rather than continuing to get people killed.


What should Bush do? Just pull out of Iraq right now?

[GreenJester]

What should Bush do? Just pull out of Iraq right now?

No, he should just concede the election now.

[EatSleepJeep]

And Kerry can't make up his damn mind.

I feel bad for people who can't do their own political research and regurgitate a n incorrect and tired party line. I really do.

[crosscg]

HEY NOW... you are all getting way off topic... let keep this to stupid things each of these guys have said before this turns into another bash the other party thread.

[jrock5730]

"I hope you leave here and walk out and say, 'What did he say?'" —George W. Bush, Beaverton, Oregon, Aug. 13, 2004


"As you know, we don't have relationships with Iran. I mean, that's — ever since the late '70s, we have no contacts with them, and we've totally sanctioned them. In other words, there's no sanctions — you can't — we're out of sanctions." —George W. Bush, Annandale, Va, Aug. 9, 2004

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

[crosscg]

"I hope you leave here and walk out and say, 'What did he say?'" —George W. Bush, Beaverton, Oregon, Aug. 13, 2004


"As you know, we don't have relationships with Iran. I mean, that's — ever since the late '70s, we have no contacts with them, and we've totally sanctioned them. In other words, there's no sanctions — you can't — we're out of sanctions." —George W. Bush, Annandale, Va, Aug. 9, 2004

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004
WEAK... 2 of 3 were repeats from the original post...

[MonkeySex]

the man just tends to misspeak. you probably would to if you gave 300+ speaches a year.

can you really claim to know the exact reason? or are you just making that up? Do you have first hand knowledge of the president's confidence/anger problem, and if you do can you link it directly to his tendency to get tongue-tied? I doubt it.
Now I haven't lived under too many presidents in my day but Bush has got to be the worst speaker of them all. I don't remember Clinton or Reagan or any of the other presidents make as much mistakes as Bush has in his public speaking. I don't know about everybody else but I think a president has to be able to speak publicly. Now I also understand that no one is perfect and is going to make a mistake every now and then, but not as much and not as stupid as Bush has.

[WJM-WJM]

"And if you're interested in the quality of education and you're paying attention to what you hear at Laclede, why don't you volunteer? Why don't you mentor a child how to read?" —George W. Bush, St. Louis, Mo., Jan. 5, 2004

"The truth of that matter is, if you listen carefully, Saddam would still be in power if he were the president of the United States, and the world would be a lot better off." —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004

"After standing on the stage, after the debates, I made it very plain, we will not have an all-volunteer army. And yet, this week — we will have an all-volunteer army. Let me restate that." —George W. Bush, Daytona Beach, Fla., Oct. 16, 2004 (Watch video (http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushvideos/v/bushismdraft.htm))

"Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." —George W. Bush, Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004 (Watch video clip (http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushvideos/v/bushismobgyn.htm))

"I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft." —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004 (Watch video (http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushismvideos/v/rumorsinternets.htm))

"Then you wake up at the high school level and find out that the illiteracy level of our children are appalling." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

"When a drug comes in from Canada, I wanna make sure it cures ya, not kill ya... I've got an obligation to make sure our government does everything we can to protect you. And one — my worry is that it looks like it's from Canada, and it might be from a third world." —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004

"Free societies are hopeful societies. And free societies will be allies against these hateful few who have no conscience, who kill at the whim of a hat." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 17, 2004

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004 (Watch video clip (http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushvideos/v/bushismvideo.htm))

"We all thought there was weapons there, Robin. My opponent thought there was weapons there." —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004

"Let me put it to you bluntly. In a changing world, we want more people to have control over your own life." —George W. Bush, Annandale, Va, Aug. 9, 2004

"I hope you leave here and walk out and say, 'What did he say?'" —George W. Bush, Beaverton, Oregon, Aug. 13, 2004

That's about 30 sentences worth of material out of the millions of words that the President has spoken in the last 12 months. If any person in the world had every word that came out of their mouth videotaped and transcribed, they would easily say 30 asinine things over the course of a year. If someone makes any level of their voting decision based on mass-email type garbage like a collection of stupid quotes, then he or she is a moron. As I mentioned in another thread, it's akin to using the Monica Lewinsky scandal to totally discount Bill Clinton's presidency, which is an unfair thing to do.

Momentary lapses of reason tend to happen to human beings every once in a while.

[jrock5730]

WEAK... 2 of 3 were repeats from the original post...
Bastard!!! :lol

"I wish I wasn't the war president. Who in the heck wants to be a war president? I don't." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 6, 2004

"But all in all, it's been a fabulous year for Laura and me." —George W. Bush, summing up his first year in office, Washington, D.C., Dec. 20, 2001

"The folks who conducted to act on our country on September 11th made a big mistake. They underestimated America. They underestimated our resolve, our determination, our love for freedom. They misunderestimated the fact that we love a neighbor in need. They misunderestimated the compassion of our country. I think they misunderestimated the will and determination of the Commander-in-Chief, too." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 26, 2001

"When I take action, I'm not going to fire a $2 million missile at a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt. It's going to be decisive." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C. Sept. 19, 2001

"I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe — I believe what I believe is right." —George W. Bush, in Rome, July 22, 2001

"There's no question that the minute I got elected, the storm clouds on the horizon were getting nearly directly overhead." —George W. Bush, May 11, 2001

"They misunderestimated me." —George W. Bush, Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000

"If you don't stand for anything, you don't stand for anything!" —George W. Bush, Bellevue Community College, Nov. 2, 2000

"Our priorities is our faith." —George W. Bush, Greensboro, N.C., Oct. 10, 2000

[clemson357]

Now I haven't lived under too many presidents in my day but Bush has got to be the worst speaker of them all. I don't remember Clinton or Reagan or any of the other presidents make as much mistakes as Bush has in his public speaking. I don't know about everybody else but I think a president has to be able to speak publicly. Now I also understand that no one is perfect and is going to make a mistake every now and then, but not as much and not as stupid as Bush has.

I agree he should work on his public speaking, he even admitted it in the third debat. Clinton, while being morally bankrupt, was an excellent public speaker. Those communication/persuasive skills probably came in handy when he was asking his wife not to leave him.

what I was trying to point out is that you can't fabricate personality traits and then assert that they are the isolated reasons why he fumbles his words.

[clemson357]

If an average citizen like me can see these character traits in a dozen televised speeches a year, then I'm pretty sure the leaders of other nations can see it, too.

avoiding the question....I'll ask it again

are you claiming to know the exact personality traits that cause the present to get tongue tied, or were you just making that up? and, if you do have special knowledge where did you get it?

[EatSleepJeep]

"I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of the President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the United States, so help me God." -George W. Bush, Washington D.C. January 20th, 2001

:lol this one cracks me up the most.

[MonkeySex]

That's about 30 sentences worth of material out of the millions of words that the President has spoken in the last 12 months. If any person in the world had every word that came out of their mouth videotaped and transcribed, they would easily say 30 asinine things over the course of a year. If someone makes any level of their voting decision based on mass-email type garbage like a collection of stupid quotes, then he or she is a moron. As I mentioned in another thread, it's akin to using the Monica Lewinsky scandal to totally discount Bill Clinton's presidency, which is an unfair thing to do.

Momentary lapses of reason tend to happen to human beings every once in a while.I know this thread isn't meant to be political but I can't help it...

I disagree, the president (unfortunately) is a representative of the United States. If the president, the leader of the United States, can't speak with out looking like a fool, then what is the rest of the world going to think about the U.S. and it's citizens? I just moved back from the Netherlands not too long ago...every speech Bush made was broadcasted over there. The Dutch and many Europeans are interested in the United States politics and this what they see. And unfortunately they judge the U.S. citizens by the actions of Bush.

I agree he should work on his public speaking, he even admitted it in the third debat. Clinton, while being morally bankrupt, was an excellent public speaker. Those communication/persuasive skills probably came in handy when he was asking his wife not to leave him.

what I was trying to point out is that you can't fabricate personality traits and then assert that they are the isolated reasons why he fumbles his words.
I agree, I just think he really needs to improve his public speaking.

[nickc_11]

"I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of the President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the United States, so help me God." -George W. Bush, Washington D.C. January 20th, 2001

:lol this one cracks me up the most.

not so much funny as sad.

my favorite tough:
“Tribal sovereignty means that. It's sovereign. You're a … you're a ... you've been given sovereignty and you're viewed as a sovereign entity.”
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/bush-bs.html

[WJM-WJM]

I know this thread isn't meant to be political but I can't help it...

I disagree, the president (unfortunately) is a representative of the United States. If the president, the leader of the United States, can't speak with out looking like a fool, then what is the rest of the world going to think about the U.S. and it's citizens? I just moved back from the Netherlands not too long ago...every speech Bush made was broadcasted over there. The Dutch and many Europeans are interested in the United States politics and this what they see. And unfortunately they judge the U.S. citizens by the actions of Bush.

I agree, I just think he really needs to improve his public speaking.

Does everyone in the Netherlands think that all 50-year old American married men have oral sex performed on them, in their office, by women who are young enough to be their daughter? I highly doubt it. It's no different here. People screw up sometimes, it's human nature.

[MonkeySex]

Does everyone in the Netherlands think that all 50-year old American married men have oral sex performed on them, in their office, by women who are young enough to be their daughter? I highly doubt it. It's no different here. People screw up sometimes, it's human nature.
No, but they think we're illiterate cowboys who doesn't give a fuck about the rest of the world. Clinton knew how to keep good foreign relations with the Netherlands. He visited on a regular basis (save the pot and prostitute jokes). I understand people screw up sometimes, but Bush has screwed up a lot more than a few times. To excuse Bush's screw ups on human nature is BS. He is the president of the United States, he has to represent the country and its citizens in a positive manner.

[Mickey Carson]

www.dubyaspeak.com

[WJM-WJM]

To excuse Bush's screw ups on human nature is BS. He is the president of the United States, he has to represent the country and its citizens in a positive manner.

Hilarious. So to jumble words and accidentally say something stupid once every few thousand sentences is not "representing the country and its citizens in a positive manner" but Clinton, getting a blowjob from a young girl in what is arguably the most important room in our entire country, is ok? Note: the Clinton thing doesn't really bother all that much when I think about the big picture, but neither do Bush's little misstatements.

[WJM-WJM]

No, but they think we're illiterate cowboys

I love it...illiterate cowboy...with a master's degree from Harvard Business School.

[crosscg]

And a political candidate who jumps to conclusions without knowing the facts is not a person you want as your Commander-in-Chief.
-- Is he referring to his own invasion of Iraq here? Lititz, Pennsylvania, Oct. 27, 2004

And a political candidate who jumps to conclusions without knowing the facts is not the person you want as the Commander-in-Chief.
-- History repeats in rapid succession... Vienna, Ohio, Oct. 27, 2004

[crosscg]

I love it...illiterate cowboy...with a master's degree from Harvard Business School.
The dunce
His former Harvard Business School professor recalls George W. Bush not just as a terrible student but as spoiled, loutish and a pathological liar.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/09/16/tsurumi/

[crosscg]

10. At this Thursday, ticket counters and airplanes will fly outta Ronald Reagan Airport.
9. Laura and I will thank them from the bottom of my heart.
8. When you have your own money, it means you've got more money to spend.
7. The benefits of helping somebody is beneficial.
6. We're in for a long struggle, and I think Texans understand that. And so do Americans.
5. Sometimes when I sleep at night I think of "Hop on Pop".
4. I promise you I will listen to what has been said here, even though I wasn't here.
3. And one of the things we've got to make sure that we do is anything.
2. We're making the right decisions to bring the solution to an end.
1. Border relations between Canada and Mexico have never been better.

[WJM-WJM]

The dunce
His former Harvard Business School professor recalls George W. Bush not just as a terrible student but as spoiled, loutish and a pathological liar.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/09/16/tsurumi/


If one professor says it, it has to be true. :lol Do you get all of your information off websites that make you sit through 2-minute commercials about Vonage broad band phones?

Maybe Bush was a jackass (none of us were there), but he still graduated and that's not easy. Read the book "Year One" about how hard b-school is at Harvard.

And with Mary Jacoby's journalistic horsepower, I can't believe she didn't get a return call from the White House.

[crosscg]

If one professor says it, it has to be true. :lol Do you get all of your information off websites that make you sit through 2-minute commercials about Vonage broad band phones? .Did I say it was true? I was just offering up a little info. And I apologize that a lot of the news sites out there these days are subscription but I have no control over that. But to answer your question, as far as the web goes anyhow I get my news from anywhere news.google.com is pointing to and read several articles on just about any issue i'm interested in to get different view points. Do you just assume that everyone who graduated from college did it on their own merit?

Maybe Bush was a jackass (none of us were there), but he still graduated and that's not easy. Read the book "Year One" about how hard b-school is at Harvard.I am quite sure Harvard Bus School is hard actually. I never said it wasn't. If a man considered a dunce there can still become president i'm sure that those who do well are actually extremely intelligent.

And with Mary Jacoby's journalistic horsepower, I can't believe she didn't get a return call from the White House.You just decide to throw that out there? :rolleyes:

[crosscg]

http://www.imgag.com/product/full/ap/3067907/graphic1.swf

[EatSleepJeep]

If one professor says it, it has to be true. :lol Do you get all of your information off websites that make you sit through 2-minute commercials about Vonage broad band phones?

Maybe Bush was a jackass (none of us were there), but he still graduated and that's not easy. Read the book "Year One" about how hard b-school is at Harvard.

And with Mary Jacoby's journalistic horsepower, I can't believe she didn't get a return call from the White House.

Didn't he go to YALE?

It's been reported that dubya got "Gentleman B's" which is what they give to members of influential families, as I can't see W getting through Yale on his brains.

[jrock5730]

http://www.imgag.com/product/full/ap/3067907/graphic1.swf

Thats hilarious! I only scored 2 on my first try.

[jrock5730]

Didn't he go to YALE?

It's been reported that dubya got "Gentleman B's" which is what they give to members of influential families, as I can't see W getting through Yale on his brains.

He went to Yale and Harvard if I'm not mistaken. I don't care what anyone says, I don't think W earned his degrees, I really don't. I have no proof, so don't ask, its my opinion.

[GreenJester]

avoiding the question....I'll ask it again

are you claiming to know the exact personality traits that cause the present to get tongue tied, or were you just making that up? and, if you do have special knowledge where did you get it?
Not avoiding the question, fuckhead. Listen up:

Personality is what others see, not what you as a person know about yourself. Of course I'm NOT inside his mind--nobody ever knows exactly what another person is thinking. (I feel like I'm explaining to a third grader here...)

I know that when I saw the "present" speak at the first debate, what I saw was someone who didn't have anything concrete to back up his beliefs, someone who got flustered and aggravated (it was physically apparent) and who therefore stuttered and made awkward pauses the entire night.

If I have "special knowledge" I got it from being a human being living on the planet Earth with other human beings. Where did you get your knowledge?

[crosscg]

Not avoiding the question, fuckhead. Listen up:

Personality is what others see, not what you as a person know about yourself. Of course I'm NOT inside his mind--nobody ever knows exactly what another person is thinking. (I feel like I'm explaining to a third grader here...)

I know that when I saw the "present" speak at the first debate, what I saw was someone who didn't have anything concrete to back up his beliefs, someone who got flustered and aggravated (it was physically apparent) and who therefore stuttered and made awkward pauses the entire night.

If I have "special knowledge" I got it from being a human being living on the planet Earth with other human beings. Where did you get your knowledge?
Maybe he is upset because like the "present" he can't say things right often. It hits a little too close to home.

[WJM-WJM]

Didn't he go to YALE?

It's been reported that dubya got "Gentleman B's" which is what they give to members of influential families, as I can't see W getting through Yale on his brains.


Yes, he did go to Yale for his first Ivy League degree. Picked up #2 at Harvard.

[crozetiga]

"And if you're interested in the quality of education and you're paying attention to what you hear at Laclede, why don't you volunteer? Why don't you mentor a child how to read?" —George W. Bush, St. Louis, Mo., Jan. 5, 2004

"The truth of that matter is, if you listen carefully, Saddam would still be in power if he were the president of the United States, and the world would be a lot better off." —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004

"After standing on the stage, after the debates, I made it very plain, we will not have an all-volunteer army. And yet, this week — we will have an all-volunteer army. Let me restate that." —George W. Bush, Daytona Beach, Fla., Oct. 16, 2004 (Watch video (http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushvideos/v/bushismdraft.htm))

"Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." —George W. Bush, Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004 (Watch video clip (http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushvideos/v/bushismobgyn.htm))

"I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft." —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004 (Watch video (http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushismvideos/v/rumorsinternets.htm))

"Then you wake up at the high school level and find out that the illiteracy level of our children are appalling." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

"When a drug comes in from Canada, I wanna make sure it cures ya, not kill ya... I've got an obligation to make sure our government does everything we can to protect you. And one — my worry is that it looks like it's from Canada, and it might be from a third world." —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004

"Free societies are hopeful societies. And free societies will be allies against these hateful few who have no conscience, who kill at the whim of a hat." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 17, 2004

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004 (Watch video clip (http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushvideos/v/bushismvideo.htm))

"We all thought there was weapons there, Robin. My opponent thought there was weapons there." —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004

"Let me put it to you bluntly. In a changing world, we want more people to have control over your own life." —George W. Bush, Annandale, Va, Aug. 9, 2004

"I hope you leave here and walk out and say, 'What did he say?'" —George W. Bush, Beaverton, Oregon, Aug. 13, 2004



Dang it!!!! The majority of those statements were made in my state, MO. Candidates usually try to adopt some characteristics of the state they are campaigning in i.e. making your southern drawl a little more pronounced or something like that.

If Bush is doing this for MO, what is that saying about Missourians? Damn we must be dumb. It really doesnt surprise me cause I know some pretty stupid people and we are the Meth capital of the world.

Josh

[MonkeySex]

Hilarious. So to jumble words and accidentally say something stupid once every few thousand sentences is not "representing the country and its citizens in a positive manner" but Clinton, getting a blowjob from a young girl in what is arguably the most important room in our entire country, is ok? Note: the Clinton thing doesn't really bother all that much when I think about the big picture, but neither do Bush's little misstatements.
Did I ever say that Clinton's ordeal was OK? I said he kept good foreign relations and he did. If Bush only screwed up as much as you say he does, than that would be okay. But he doesn't, he screws up a lot more often. Just read this thread and Bush's quotes. There are a lot more than just a few. Can you give any examples from any other presidents or politicians who screw up as much as Bush? If you can give me a few examples and I will eat my words.

I love it...illiterate cowboy...with a master's degree from Harvard Business School.
Well it obviously doesn't seem like he has a master's from Harvard. And even then it doesn't mean shit if he can't talk in public. How many more examples do you need?

[WJM-WJM]

we are the Meth capital of the world.

Josh


:lol :lol :lol

[jrock5730]

:lol :lol :lol

and this is funny how? Are you clueless to how big of a problem meth is in this country? Oh wait, your like Bush, not too concerned obviously.

[crosscg]

and this is funny how? Are you clueless to how big of a problem meth is in this country? Oh wait, your like Bush, not too concerned obviously.
You know, sometimes people joke about serious topics.

[WJM-WJM]

If you can give me a few examples and I will eat my words.


Since picking out single sentences where people make a mistake appears to be so important to you, how about "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." ?

[WJM-WJM]

and this is funny how? Are you clueless to how big of a problem meth is in this country? Oh wait, your like Bush, not too concerned obviously.

Yeah, but I'm huge proponent of apple pie, puppy dogs, and helping old women with their groceries... Give me a break, the guy who posted it was joking and so was I.

And there are much larger issues at hand than crystal meth...

[WJM-WJM]

Well it obviously doesn't seem like he has a master's from Harvard.



Syndicating the purchase of a major league baseball team is a pretty easy thing to do as well, right? No one would have to have any brains to pull that one off.

[jrock5730]

Yeah, but I'm huge proponent of apple pie, puppy dogs, and helping old women with their groceries... Give me a break, the guy who posted it was joking and so was I.

And there are much larger issues at hand than crystal meth...

I don't think he was joking, maybe you should reread his statement, and crystal meth is a very HUGE problem in this country, look it up.

[jrock5730]

This seems to be a problem as well...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=3&u=/ap/20041028/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/halliburton_contracts

[WJM-WJM]

I don't think he was joking, maybe you should reread his statement, and crystal meth is a very HUGE problem in this country, look it up.

The sentence before the 'meth capital' comment was 'damn we are dumb.' It sounded satirical to me. State of MO - please accept my apology. :lol

I don't doubt the fact that it's a major problem. However, I can think of a number of people I'd rather help first than an adult who makes the conscience decision to inject toxic chemicals into their veins.

[WJM-WJM]

This seems to be a problem as well...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=3&u=/ap/20041028/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/halliburton_contracts

I'm sorry - who did you say was the better company for the job?

[MonkeySex]

Since picking out single sentences where people make a mistake appears to be so important to you, how about "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." ?
Ok, I don't see how Clinton really has anything to do with Bush's problem to speak in public but since you feel Clinton's ordeal is justification to Bush's speaking problem... I'll go ahead and give you that one. There's one, now if you only could give me let's say ten more (I'm being really nice) I'll shut up. How about another?

Syndicating the purchase of a major league baseball team is a pretty easy thing to do as well, right? No one would have to have any brains to pull that one off.
And once again I don't see how this has anything to do with Bush's speaking problem... Syndicating the purchase of a major league baseball team does not also justify Bush's speaking problem. Seriously if you're going to justify Bush's incompetence...how about giving some examples that has to do with what we're talking about.

[jrock5730]

The sentence before the 'meth capital' comment was 'damn we are dumb.' It sounded satirical to me. State of MO - please accept my apology. :lol

I don't doubt the fact that it's a major problem. However, I can think of a number of people I'd rather help first than an adult who makes the conscience decision to inject toxic chemicals into their veins.

We'll have to let the poster decide this one I suppose. I personally don't care to help the people on the drug, rather get the drug off the streets.

[jrock5730]

I'm sorry - who did you say was the better company for the job?

We all know that Haliburton is the only company that can rebuild a country, the administration knew this very well too.

[crozetiga]

Damn this wierd.... two people fighting about what i meant by what i said.

When I made the statement "and we are the Meth capital of the world" it was made part seriously and part jokingly.

I am serious that meth is a huge problem and that the national government has not done a good job trying to stop it. We have many state laws that are helping the problem though.

Truthfully, I said it mainly jokingly. I think that being the meth capital of the world is one of those "honors" that no one is proud of but we think is kind of funny. It also shows how stupid some missourians can be. I tried to make my earlier post sarcastic, but I guess i didnt make that too clear.

just a thought on my thoughts
josh

[jrock5730]

Damn this wierd.... two people fighting about what i meant by what i said.

When I made the statement "and we are the Meth capital of the world" it was made part seriously and part jokingly.

I am serious that meth is a huge problem and that the national government has not done a good job trying to stop it. We have many state laws that are helping the problem though.

Truthfully, I said it mainly jokingly. I think that being the meth capital of the world is one of those "honors" that no one is proud of but we think is kind of funny. It also shows how stupid some missourians can be. I tried to make my earlier post sarcastic, but I guess i didnt make that too clear.

just a thought on my thoughts
josh

Thanks for the clarification.

[AnyonebutBush]

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden.


It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
-- George W. Bush 9-13-2001



"I don't know where he (bin Laden) is. I have no idea and I really don't care.
It's not that important. It's not our priority."
-- George W. Bush 3-13-2002



This thread should be called "BushSpeak... NOTHING but BushSpeak"Now thats what I call sad..............

[WJM-WJM]

Ok, I don't see how Clinton really has anything to do with Bush's problem to speak in public but since you feel Clinton's ordeal is justification to Bush's speaking problem... I'll go ahead and give you that one. There's one, now if you only could give me let's say ten more (I'm being really nice) I'll shut up. How about another?


And once again I don't see how this has anything to do with Bush's speaking problem... Syndicating the purchase of a major league baseball team does not also justify Bush's speaking problem. Seriously if you're going to justify Bush's incompetence...how about giving some examples that has to do with what we're talking about.


I clearly said that the Clinton thing is NOT justification for Bush's speaking problem. I happen to believe in the fallibility of human beings, no one is perfect. You raised the issue of Bush's public speaking issues making everyone in the Netherlands believe we're illiterate cowboys and mentioned that because of Bush's public speaking, he misrepresents our country internationally. If that's the case, I just don't see how Clinton scandal didn't do the same thing [that is, make America look bad]. And for the 3rd or 4th time, I don't think using the Clinton scandal is a fair way to judge Clinton, just like a list of quotes is not a fair way to judge Bush.

I'm not claiming Bush is the best public speaker in the world. But making some grammatical and unintentional errors does not make someone a complete moron either.

If you want to credibly attack a politician, go after the issues, not some lame ass list of one-sentence quotes. If you think Bush's policies suck, I respect your right to have that opinion, but I try not to use mass email material to attack or defend policies and/or politicians.

[bill braskey]

I'm sorry - who did you say was the better company for the job?Bechtel Group
Fluor
Louis Berger Group
Parsons Corp.


Oh and the VP was not the CEO of any of them. So i guess one of these 4 would have been a little more ethical.

[WJM-WJM]

Bechtel Group - They're getting about $2 Billion of business in Iraq from the US government right now.

Fluor - Not a large enough company to handle the job.

Louis Berger Group - No significant presence in the Middle East.

Parsons Corp - Less of a focus on energy infrastructure and probably too small of a company as well.

[WJM-WJM]

General Accounting Office report: "The Army Corps of Engineers properly awarded a sole-source contract for rebuilding Iraq's oil infrastructure to the only contractor that was determined to be in a position to provide the services within the required time frame."

[WJM-WJM]

Oh and the VP was not the CEO of any of them. So i guess one of these 4 would have been a little more ethical.

Choosing a company that would do a bad job would be the most unethical situation possible.

Yeah, let's have 9 or 10 less qualified companies pool their resources together, get some really really cool teamwork going on, and everything will work out perfect. That strategy works great for building Habitat for Humanity houses on Saturday mornings, but it's unrealistic for $10B projects.

[bill braskey]

Choosing a company that would do a bad job would be the most unethical situation possible.


Bush/Cheney?

[WJM-WJM]

Bush/Cheney?

Please have a better response than that.

Me: Halliburton isthe most qualified company for the job.

You: No, there are other companies who could do it. Here they are...

Me: Those companies couldn't do it for these reasons.

You: Bush/Cheney?

[bill braskey]

Bechtel Group - They're getting about $2 Billion of business in Iraq from the US government right now.

Fluor - Not a large enough company to handle the job.

Louis Berger Group - No significant presence in the Middle East.

Parsons Corp - Less of a focus on energy infrastructure and probably too small of a company as well.

Parsons is too small? They have gotten a contract for up to $800 million in Northern Iraq AFTER all the hype of Halliburton gettin numerous uncontested bids.

[EatSleepJeep]

That strategy works great for building Habitat for Humanity houses on Saturday mornings, but it's unrealistic for $10B projects.

How the FUCK would you know? I'm more likely to walk on Mars before you attend a habitat for humanity project.

[WJM-WJM]

Parsons is too small? They have gotten a contract for up to $800 million in Northern Iraq AFTER all the hype of Halliburton gettin numerous uncontested bids.

It looks like they've done a good job too (I'm serious, I'm not being a smart ass this time). But to be the lead contractor, yes, I think Parsons is too small. They were recently purchased by their Australian partner in the Iraq deal, so maybe they are becoming a more formidable group.

[WJM-WJM]

How the FUCK would you know? I'm more likely to walk on Mars before you attend a habitat for humanity project.

Very rationale response there. Nicely done.

[bill braskey]

It looks like they've done a good job too (I'm serious, I'm not being a smart ass this time). But to be the lead contractor, yes, I think Parsons is too small. They were recently purchased by their Australian partner in the Iraq deal, so maybe they are becoming a more formidable group.

Ok, and I see your point as well(I'm serious) My biggest problem with it all was that Halliburton got all of these contracts originally uncontested. Parsons got one of HAL's contracts in January. Whether or not Cheney gets a kickback, blah blah blah, isnt my concern either. Its just the ethics of it and the way it looks too. Another serious question: how do you know so much about these companies? you work in that sector or just know something about em? <-again serious question cause you have brought more light on this subject than anyone.

[EatSleepJeep]

Very rationale response there. Nicely done.

Send me a picture of you.
You building a home.
Hammering nails and not getting paid for it.
A home for a poor family.
You don't have one.
Because you've never done it.
Nor will you.

[WJM-WJM]

Ok, and I see your point as well(I'm serious) My biggest problem with it all was that Halliburton got all of these contracts originally uncontested. Parsons got one of HAL's contracts in January. Whether or not Cheney gets a kickback, blah blah blah, isnt my concern either. Its just the ethics of it and the way it looks too. Another serious question: how do you know so much about these companies? you work in that sector or just know something about em? <-again serious question cause you have brought more light on this subject than anyone.

I agree it could appear shady. I just think that in big business, which a country restructuring is, a results-oriented approach generally tends to prevail. Worrying about the rumor mill only slows down the process.

I'm not in the industry. I've just researched this topic a lot, but not because I am a die hard Republican either (although I will vote Republican this year). I follow business a lot more than politics and seeing our officials criticized for picking the most qualified contractor available just seems absurd to me.

[WJM-WJM]

Send me a picture of you.
You building a home.
Hammering nails and not getting paid for it.
A home for a poor family.
You don't have one.
Because you've never done it.
Nor will you.

This is completely off topic, but since you brought it up...

Actually, I have built Habitat houses before. Not every weekend or anything, but I've done it 5 or 6 times. I wish I had a picture for you, but the last time I was there, I wasn't looking for a photo opportunity, I was digging the footings for the back deck.

[EatSleepJeep]

Syndicating the purchase of a major league baseball team is a pretty easy thing to do as well, right? No one would have to have any brains to pull that one off.

But you have to be pretty dumb to trade Sammy Sosa and put the Rangers into bankruptcy. Then sell the team for a loss.

[EatSleepJeep]

This is completely off topic, but since you brought it up...

Actually, I have built Habitat houses before. Not every weekend or anything, but I've done it 5 or 6 times. I wish I had a picture for you, but the last time I was there, I wasn't looking for a photo opportunity, I was digging the footings for the back deck.

I'm calling bullshit. You're telling me that no one took a photo of people volunteering to build a house? Bullshit.

[TwoStepFF]

But you have to be pretty dumb to trade Sammy Sosa and put the Rangers into bankruptcy. Then sell the team for a loss.
:lol :lol

[WJM-WJM]

But you have to be pretty dumb to trade Sammy Sosa and put the Rangers into bankruptcy. Then sell the team for a loss.


1989 - Bush's partnership acquires the Rangers for $89M.
1999 - Bush's partnership sells the Rangers for $250M.

That's the best loss I've ever seen.


Sosa was traded in 1989. Without fortune telling abilities, I'm not sure how someone could predict he'd hit 60 homers a year eight years later. His stats were less than impressive.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?statsId=4344

[bill braskey]

I agree it could appear shady. I just think that in big business, which a country restructuring is, a results-oriented approach generally tends to prevail. Worrying about the rumor mill only slows down the process.

I'm not in the industry. I've just researched this topic a lot, but not because I am a die hard Republican either (although I will vote Republican this year). I follow business a lot more than politics and seeing our officials criticized for picking the most qualified contractor available just seems absurd to me.
Point taken... thanks for the insight bro.

[WJM-WJM]

I'm calling bullshit. You're telling me that no one took a photo of people volunteering to build a house? Bullshit.

:lol

I'm so sorry for not having pictures taken of myself at the jobsite. I wish I had your soothsaying abilities, a la the Sosa trade :lol , to know that I would need them to participate in such a mature debate.

[WJM-WJM]

Point taken... thanks for the insight bro.

Enjoyed exchanging ideas with you as well.

[EatSleepJeep]

1989 - Bush's partnership acquires the Rangers for $89M.
1999 - Bush's partnership sells the Rangers for $250M.

That's the best loss I've ever seen.


Sosa was traded in 1989. Without fortune telling abilities, I'm not sure how someone could predict he'd hit 60 homers a year eight years later. His stats were less than impressive.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?statsId=4344


We'll reduce this to easy numbers:
I buy a lemonade stand for 89 Dollars.
10 years later I sell my lemonade stand for $250.
It looks like I made $161. Right? Wrong.
During those ten years of ownership my operating losses were well over $161. I lost money on the deal.

(Replace "I" with "Bush and his cronies", multiply all numbers by 1000000. Lemonade stand=Rangers, for those that ARE that dumb.)

[WJM-WJM]

We'll reduce this to easy numbers:
I buy a lemonade stand for 89 Dollars.
10 years later I sell my lemonade stand for $250.
It looks like I made $161. Right? Wrong.
During those ten years of ownership my operating losses were well over $161. I lost money on the deal.

(Replace "I" with "Bush and his cronies", multiply all numbers by 1000000. Lemonade stand=Rangers, for those that ARE that dumb.)

Since you were so privy to their financials, what exactly were the amounts of the operating losses?

Unless W & Co consistently had to come out of pocket to subsidize the operating losses, your logic is entirely backward. Assuming they could finance some of the operating losses through debt, which most businesses do, the partners in the LLC (which it likely was) all received tax benefits that carried to their personal tax returns and took the 'big profit' on a long-term capital gain basis (i.e. the best way). But you know all that I'm sure.

And when did Bush drive the Rangers into bankruptcy? I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I can't find any evidence to support that.

[MonkeySex]

I clearly said that the Clinton thing is NOT justification for Bush's speaking problem. I happen to believe in the fallibility of human beings, no one is perfect. You raised the issue of Bush's public speaking issues making everyone in the Netherlands believe we're illiterate cowboys and mentioned that because of Bush's public speaking, he misrepresents our country internationally. If that's the case, I just don't see how Clinton scandal didn't do the same thing [that is, make America look bad]. And for the 3rd or 4th time, I don't think using the Clinton scandal is a fair way to judge Clinton, just like a list of quotes is not a fair way to judge Bush.

I'm not claiming Bush is the best public speaker in the world. But making some grammatical and unintentional errors does not make someone a complete moron either.

If you want to credibly attack a politician, go after the issues, not some lame ass list of one-sentence quotes. If you think Bush's policies suck, I respect your right to have that opinion, but I try not to use mass email material to attack or defend policies and/or politicians.
See the Dutch (and I think it's safe to say everywhere else, at least in Europe) didn't give a shit about Clinton wanting some action. They knew he was a smart guy who knew what he was doing, based on the fact that he visited the country regulary. So that means that the Dutch politicians knew him personally and know what type of man he is. When he spoke in public (all of his speeches were broadcasted as well) they found that he could speak well. And when someone speaks well, people think they are educated and know what they are doing. But when you fumble your words and make stupid errors (not just mispronouncing words) people tend to think that he is uneducated and illiterate. That's the difference between Bush's not knowing how to speak in public and Clinton's ordeal.

I will attack a politician (not just Bush) and their ability to speak in public. I do think the presidents not knowing how to speak in public, for the reason of being misrepresented, is an important issue. And those mass emails, videos, and websites, just gives me material to prove my point. I don't see how people can excuse Bush or any other politician, when it comes to misrepresentation which is happening due to Bush's lack of knowledge on how to speak in public. Believe me if Clinton, Cheney, Edwards, or any other politician had the same problem with public speaking as Bush does...I would be flaming them too.

[illbackyouup_03]

haha, this man is so dumb, and in turn america is dumber for voting him in
just lovely!

[WJM-WJM]

See the Dutch (and I think it's safe to say everywhere else, at least in Europe) didn't give a shit about Clinton wanting some action. They knew he was a smart guy who knew what he was doing, based on the fact that he visited the country regulary. So that means that the Dutch politicians knew him personally and know what type of man he is. When he spoke in public (all of his speeches were broadcasted as well) they found that he could speak well. And when someone speaks well, people think they are educated and know what they are doing. But when you fumble your words and make stupid errors (not just mispronouncing words) people tend to think that he is uneducated and illiterate. That's the difference between Bush's not knowing how to speak in public and Clinton's ordeal.

I will attack a politician (not just Bush) and their ability to speak in public. I do think the presidents not knowing how to speak in public, for the reason of being misrepresented, is an important issue. And those mass emails, videos, and websites, just gives me material to prove my point. I don't see how people can excuse Bush or any other politician, when it comes to misrepresentation which is happening due to Bush's lack of knowledge on how to speak in public. Believe me if Clinton, Cheney, Edwards, or any other politician had the same problem with public speaking as Bush does...I would be flaming them too.



We really just have a difference of opinion on that then. I think someone can be still be competent leader even if he or she makes an airhead comment every once in a while when they're speaking to a large group.

[jrock5730]

We really just have a difference of opinion on that then. I think someone can be still be competent leader even if he or she makes an airhead comment every once in a while when they're speaking to a large group.

:lol Spoken like a true airhead.

[sliver108]

http://www.seeyageorge.com/bsh.html

I use this site for the daily Bushism that I put in my daily newsletter.

[jrock5730]

http://www.seeyageorge.com/bsh.html

I use this site for the daily Bushism that I put in my daily newsletter.

I like this one: www.politicalhumor.about.com

[WJM-WJM]

:lol Spoken like a true airhead.

I'll try and work at becoming more of an intellectual like you in an attempt to come up with some unique and unfounded hypotheses such as "I don't care what anyone says, I don't think W earned his degrees, I really don't. I have no proof, so don't ask, its my opinion."

[WJM-WJM]

But you have to be pretty dumb to trade Sammy Sosa and put the Rangers into bankruptcy. Then sell the team for a loss.

Was the bk court document just too large to post or have you just not found it yet?

[MonkeySex]

We really just have a difference of opinion on that then. I think someone can be still be competent leader even if he or she makes an airhead comment every once in a while when they're speaking to a large group.I disagree but that's your opinion and I have mine. I'm sorry if I came off like an asshole or if you thought I was attacking your opinion. I didn't mean to, I just like to debate.

[WJM-WJM]

I disagree but that's your opinion and I have mine. I'm sorry if I came off like an asshole or if you thought I was attacking your opinion. I didn't mean to, I just like to debate.

No problem, I'm not trying to be a jackass either. I like discussing these issues a lot. This is by far the most frequently I've ever posted on this site.

[WJM-WJM]

But you have to be pretty dumb to trade Sammy Sosa and put the Rangers into bankruptcy. Then sell the team for a loss.

Just thought I'd check on the status of:

1. the bankruptcy information
2. the evidence that shows that Bush's investors lost money.

[eric_dmbfan03]

I like this one: www.politicalhumor.about.com
This is by far the best one:
www.DubyaSpeak.com

[WJM-WJM]

Just thought I'd check on the status of:

1. the bankruptcy information
2. the evidence that shows that Bush's investors lost money.

EatSleepJeep - I normally wouldn't harp on this, but I feel the need to call you out here.

[crosscg]

FOUR MORE YEARS!!! FOUR MORE YEARS!!!

Bushisms are about to get a 4 year extension.... what will he say next!