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Holla9
10-27-2004, 11:34 AM
Spends $1000 to get a haircut?
crosscg
10-27-2004, 11:43 AM
Spends $1000 to get a haircut?
Depends on how good the haircut looks I guess...
Holla9
10-27-2004, 11:50 AM
Depends on how good the haircut looks I guess...
Does John Kerry's hair look like $1000?
GreenJester
10-27-2004, 11:57 AM
You ever consider that maybe--just maybe--he pays his barber $1,000.00 because Kerry wants the barber shop to stay in business, because it's been his barber for a long time and he does a good job?
I mean, do you really think this barber charges $1,000.00 *standard* for every haircut?
The excessive price is probably more charity than actual charge. And anyway...
Considering how much this country is obsessed with image, $1,000.00 is a small price to pay for looking clean-cut and put-together in front of the news cameras.
crosscg
10-27-2004, 11:59 AM
Does John Kerry's hair look like $1000?
Nah, my guess would be about $873.32. But thats just personal opinion, i'm not really a hair styling professional. Are there any stylists on the board who could give us a better estimate?
mdude85
10-27-2004, 12:27 PM
if Kerry spends $1000 a week on a haircut, he could use the money bush spent on the iraq war to get haircuts every week for 2.7 million years. let's put things into perspective here.
GreenJester
10-27-2004, 12:31 PM
if Kerry spends $1000 a week on a haircut, he could use the money bush spent on the iraq war to get haircuts every week for 2.7 million years. let's put things into perspective here.
:lol Good point.
crosscg
10-27-2004, 12:33 PM
if Kerry spends $1000 a week on a haircut, he could use the money bush spent on the iraq war to get haircuts every week for 2.7 million years. let's put things into perspective here.
Yeah but if you look at it that way his hair would probably be unmanagable after about 60 more years. Then we are talking about hair pieces on a dead guy... i'm sure that would cost way more than $1000 a week. I'd say he could have his hair taken care of for about a half million years tops.
clemson357
10-27-2004, 01:22 PM
let's put things into perspective here.
yes, lets. Instead of trying to equate it to money that comes from the taxes of billions of people, lets equate it to what it is: personal wealth. If Kerry gets his hair cut every three weeks, the money he spends in one year to have someone cut his hair could rent 5 homeless people an apartment for that entire year.
The money I spend in one year to get my hair cut could feed two homeless people a nice diner, and my hair looks a lot better than his ;)
devilish@darts
10-27-2004, 01:54 PM
How much does he pay for Botox injections?
mdude85
10-27-2004, 02:10 PM
yes, lets. Instead of trying to equate it to money that comes from the taxes of billions of people, lets equate it to what it is: personal wealth. If Kerry gets his hair cut every three weeks, the money he spends in one year to have someone cut his hair could rent 5 homeless people an apartment for that entire year.
The money I spend in one year to get my hair cut could feed two homeless people a nice diner, and my hair looks a lot better than his ;)
and the money the bush family receives from its oil investments could rent many more homeless people apartments for many more years. this argument goes both ways.
mdude85
10-27-2004, 02:12 PM
How much does he pay for Botox injections?
Ha --
Why Mr Kerry, why the long face??
TwoStep2888
10-27-2004, 02:15 PM
and the money the bush family receives from its oil investments could rent many more homeless people apartments for many more years. this argument goes both ways.
:thumbsup
clemson357
10-27-2004, 02:34 PM
and the money the bush family receives from its oil investments could rent many more homeless people apartments for many more years. this argument goes both ways.
you are talking about the investments of a family that has been in the oil business for decades, and I am talking about the money one man spends on his hair....not exactly comparing apples to apples
mdude85
10-27-2004, 02:35 PM
you are talking about the investments of a family that has been in the oil business for decades, and I am talking about the money one man spends on his hair....not exactly comparing apples to apples
I thought we were both talking about private income.
clemson357
10-27-2004, 02:40 PM
it is private income, as in not money that comes from taxing an entire nation. that doesn't mean that you can compare the entire fortune of a whole family to the cash one person shells out to his barber.
DreemingTree
10-27-2004, 02:44 PM
i would
mdude85
10-27-2004, 02:54 PM
it is private income, as in not money that comes from taxing an entire nation. that doesn't mean that you can compare the entire fortune of a whole family to the cash one person shells out to his barber.
Yes -- that is the distinction you tried to make in your first post. So I followed it up with a proper analogy. What if that family spends part of its fortune on a $100,000 yacht? Are we then not able to compare this to the cash one person shells out to his barber?
Holla9
10-27-2004, 03:10 PM
People, don't look too deep into this. The point is, any MAN who spends $1000 on a haircut is a weirdo. Really think about that.
clemson357
10-27-2004, 03:14 PM
look man, you can compare anything you want. you can compare the amount of money Kerry spent on lunch today to the amount of money the Bush family has spent food in the past ten years, is it going to be relavent? No. My point was that a hair cut is an arbitrary and vain thing, and it is stupid to shell out that much money for it, lets look at what better use that money could be spent on. If you know of something vain and inexpensive that Bush personally spends a shitload of cash on, that would make for the best comparison, if not feel free to talk about his total net worth as compared to the money Kerry spends on toilet paper.
i really didn't think it needed to be explained that extensively, but whatever.
mdude85
10-27-2004, 03:35 PM
People, don't look too deep into this. The point is, any MAN who spends $1000 on a haircut is a weirdo. Really think about that.
I think he is spending $1000 on his haircut because he knows his appearance is important to winning the election, not because he really likes spending money on haircuts. See the presidential debates of 1960.
mdude85
10-27-2004, 03:37 PM
look man, you can compare anything you want. you can compare the amount of money Kerry spent on lunch today to the amount of money the Bush family has spent food in the past ten years, is it going to be relavent? No. My point was that a hair cut is an arbitrary and vain thing, and it is stupid to shell out that much money for it, lets look at what better use that money could be spent on. If you know of something vain and inexpensive that Bush personally spends a shitload of cash on, that would make for the best comparison, if not feel free to talk about his total net worth as compared to the money Kerry spends on toilet paper.
i really didn't think it needed to be explained that extensively, but whatever.
First you told me my analogy was not relevant because I was comparing Kerry's private income spending to Bush's tax dollar spending. Ok. Then I told you that Bush could spend his private income on whatever he chose to, for instance a $100,000 yacht, and it would equate to Kerry spending his private income on a $1000 haircut. Do you really need me to provide evidence of frivolous spending of private income by the Bush family to know that it exists?
clemson357
10-27-2004, 03:51 PM
First you told me my analogy was not relevant because I was comparing Kerry's private income spending to Bush's tax dollar spending. Ok. Then I told you that Bush could spend his private income on whatever he chose to, for instance a $100,000 yacht, and it would equate to Kerry spending his private income on a $1000 haircut. Do you really need me to provide evidence of frivolous spending of private income by the Bush family to know that it exists?
I never said that anything about frivolous spending not existing.
If your point is that Bush can buy a yacht with the exact same amount of money that Kerry spends on 100 hair cuts, then I agree.
Dancing Ants
10-27-2004, 04:03 PM
You ever consider that maybe--just maybe--he pays his barber $1,000.00 because Kerry wants the barber shop to stay in business, because it's been his barber for a long time and he does a good job?
I mean, do you really think this barber charges $1,000.00 *standard* for every haircut?
The excessive price is probably more charity than actual charge. And anyway...
Considering how much this country is obsessed with image, $1,000.00 is a small price to pay for looking clean-cut and put-together in front of the news cameras.
:rolleyes:
if that had been Bush, you wouldn't have said that.
jrock5730
10-27-2004, 04:08 PM
People, don't look too deep into this. The point is, any MAN who spends $1000 on a haircut is a weirdo. Really think about that.
I think people who feel the need to own a assault weapon are weird, but does anyone really give a shit, not really. I think wasting a thread on this is weird, so shut up, weirdo. :twak :lol
GreenJester
10-27-2004, 04:13 PM
:rolleyes:
if that had been Bush, you wouldn't have said that.
Yes, I would have.
Do you guys not realize that these politicians don't move in the same circles you do? They aren't popping down to the local mall for a bargain cut.
This is being given too much weight. Hundreds of celebs and politicians get ridiculously priced EVERYTHING on a daily basis. Get over it.
Holla9
10-27-2004, 04:24 PM
I think people who feel the need to own a assault weapon are weird, but does anyone really give a shit, not really. I think wasting a thread on this is weird, so shut up, weirdo. :twak :lol
Thats because you're afraid of guns. Lets compare the number of "assault weapon" owners to people who spend $1000 on haircuts. And by the legal, not genuine, definition of an assault weapon, there are probably millions of assault weapon owners in our country.
What the hell is "wasting a thread". I highly doubt that this thread is going to kill Jake's bandwidth.
mdude85
10-27-2004, 05:17 PM
I never said that anything about frivolous spending not existing.
If your point is that Bush can buy a yacht with the exact same amount of money that Kerry spends on 100 hair cuts, then I agree.
No... :confused: :confused: I am saying that Bush spends so much more money on so many things that people don't agree with, that it makes Kerry's expenditures look like chump change. This isn't too hard to understand...
pedelen99
10-27-2004, 06:17 PM
Spends $1000 to get a haircut?
You would... the moment Bush spent $1,000 on one. It wouldn't even be an issue anymore. :rolleyes:
- Phil
mdude85
10-27-2004, 06:22 PM
President Bush has people whose full time job is to cut his hair.
EatSleepJeep
10-27-2004, 06:24 PM
I'm voting for him, BECAUSE of his well groomed coiffure. :twak
clemson357
10-27-2004, 06:29 PM
No... :confused: :confused: I am saying that Bush spends so much more money on so many things that people don't agree with, that it makes Kerry's expenditures look like chump change. This isn't too hard to understand...
no it isn't hard to understand. Kerry's personal expendatures are less than the national spending under the Bush administration.
1000 bucks for a haircut is too much.
But to answer the question...yes I'd still vote for Kerry (If I could).
mdude85
10-27-2004, 07:55 PM
no it isn't hard to understand. Kerry's personal expendatures are less than the national spending under the Bush administration.
Are you kidding, or do you really not understand? It's becoming difficult to have conversations with you because you manage to miss everyone's point, every time.
clemson357
10-27-2004, 08:06 PM
Are you kidding, or do you really not understand? It's becoming difficult to have conversations with you because you manage to miss everyone's point, every time....
How did i miss the point?
No... :confused: :confused: I am saying that Bush spends so much more money on so many things that people don't agree with...
I can only assume this means national spending, as you haven't cited one actual sum of PERSONAL money bush has spent, much less what it was spent on or that people don't agree with it
...that it makes Kerry's expenditures look like chump change. This isn't too hard to understand...
Kerry doesn't have national spending, because he isn't president. So, the only expenditures you could be talking about is the personal expendature of $1000 for haircuts
so, like I said, you have effectively pointed out that the national spending under the bush administration, which some people don't agree with, is more than Kerry's personal expenditures.
ProudestAnt
10-27-2004, 08:14 PM
How did i miss the point?
I can only assume this means national spending, as you haven't cited one actual sum of PERSONAL money bush has spent, much less what it was spent on or that people don't agree with it
Kerry doesn't have national spending, because he isn't president. So, the only expenditures you could be talking about is the personal expendature of $1000 for haircuts
so, like I said, you have effectively pointed out that the national spending under the bush administration, which some people don't agree with, is more than Kerry's personal expenditures.Dude, you're argument is weak. You keep turning things. He's obviously talking about Bush's personal spending. Why would he talk about Bush's national spending in comparison to Kerry's personal spending? Open your eyes and use your head...
Holla9
10-27-2004, 09:47 PM
You would... the moment Bush spent $1,000 on one. It wouldn't even be an issue anymore. :rolleyes:
- Phil
I'm a man, I'm not picky about my hair stylists.
pedelen99
10-27-2004, 09:58 PM
I'm a man, I'm not picky about my hair stylists.
Me personally, I'm holding out for a $1,000 level stylist... I plan to line that person up right after I find a widowed billionaire to marry.
Hey, you're only limited by your goals!
:)
- Phil
clemson357
10-27-2004, 10:05 PM
Dude, you're argument is weak. You keep turning things. He's obviously talking about Bush's personal spending. Why would he talk about Bush's national spending in comparison to Kerry's personal spending? Open your eyes and use your head...
No, why don't YOU open YOUR eyes, and find me one post in this thread that mentions any sum of money Bush personally spent, besides a hypothetical, imagined yacht.
After you don't find it, why don't you come back and explain how you talk about something without talking about it.
clemson357
10-27-2004, 10:07 PM
plus the fact that he added in money he has spent "that people don't agree with." That must mean personal spending, since so many americans are opinionated on how the president spends his own money.
Holla9
10-27-2004, 10:49 PM
Me personally, I'm holding out for a $1,000 level stylist... I plan to line that person up right after I find a widowed billionaire to marry.
Hey, you're only limited by your goals!
:)
- Phil
:lol
dylanquirt
10-27-2004, 11:22 PM
This Is The Stupid's Thread-----i Can't Believe I Wasted 3 Minutes Reading This Shit. Debate Something Worth Debating. Get Over It, Rich People Spend Their Money On Stupid Shit.
mdude85
10-28-2004, 10:32 AM
Dude, you're argument is weak. You keep turning things. He's obviously talking about Bush's personal spending. Why would he talk about Bush's national spending in comparison to Kerry's personal spending? Open your eyes and use your head...
I did talk about national spending in comparison to personal spending in my first analogy, to make the point that spending is spending and different people disagree with it for different reasons.
I did however cite examples of personal spending vs. personal spending in later posts, but apparently clemson357 needs me to find a website for him that lists one way the Bush family has spent private income in frivolous ways, as if it can't be true.
crozetiga
10-28-2004, 11:25 AM
This is kind of a funny thread.... a statement that was most likely done with humor in mind got people in a heated discussion hehehehe!
Personally I dont care what a guy spends on a haircut as long as I dont have to pay for it. I spend $9 and that seems like alot to me for a hair cut especially cause every time I go have a little less hair.
Anyway to address the original question that was raise: Who would vote for a guy that spends $1000 on a haircut? Well the answer is a whole bunch of people. I think i remember during Clinton's first term (93 or 94), that he had a haircut on the runway or in an airport somewhere and it cost like $10,000 with all the extra security and stuff like that. He spent 10 times what Kerry does on a haircut and in 1996 he got re-elected pretty easily. I like Clinton, but I remember thinking, even at age 13 or 14, WTF is this guy doing.
I think that story is accurate. I didnt bother to look it up but someone can try to verify that if they want. I dont have the time right now
Josh
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