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ss10mets
10-28-2004, 12:46 PM
I was watching the news last night and they started on how Bush is trying to use Kerry's attack on him about the missing weapons to show he might not have gotten all the facts right and how they were missing before, etc etc. Then he goes and says how we can't have a leader who rushes into things without evidence... I just find it funny that he says that when he started this war based on faulty evidence... moron.

Hopefully someone can find the transcript of the rally yesterday where he said it.

Rob
10-28-2004, 01:39 PM
Oooooh! Can I play right-winger, here?

Saddam had to be removed from power.

There! All better!

sliver108
10-28-2004, 01:42 PM
Then he goes and says how we can't have a leader who rushes into things without evidence... I just find it funny that he says that when he started this war based on faulty evidence... moron.
I thought I was the only one who caught that lol.

mray10
10-28-2004, 01:44 PM
Oooooh! Can I play right-winger, here?

Saddam had to be removed from power.

There! All better!

That's right! We went to Iraq to liberate the Iraqi people. That's what we said all along ...

EatSleepJeep
10-28-2004, 03:04 PM
I thought I was the only one who caught that lol.

A lot of free thinking people noticed that, too. Now the close minded ones will dismiss it as partisan bias, or some equally stupid excuse.

ss10mets
10-28-2004, 03:05 PM
Best part was I was watching it with my Republican girlfriend... she had no response, I was laughing hardcore at how stupid of a comment it was. I really hope someone can find the transcript of that.

wiggumy2
10-28-2004, 03:08 PM
probably on daily show tonight...haha

pedelen99
10-28-2004, 03:11 PM
Best part was I was watching it with my Republican girlfriend... she had no response, I was laughing hardcore at how stupid of a comment it was. I really hope someone can find the transcript of that.

From the White House transcript:

THE PRESIDENT: Now the Senator is making wild charges about missing explosives, when his top foreign policy advisor admits "we don't know the facts." End quote. Think about that. The Senator is denigrating the actions of our troops and commanders in the field without knowing the facts. Unfortunately, that's part of the pattern of saying anything it takes to get elected. Like when he charged that our military failed to get Osama bin Laden at Tora Bora, even though our top military commander, General Tommy Franks, said, "The Senator's understanding of events does not square with reality," and intelligence reports place bin Laden in any of several different countries at the time.

See, our military is now investigating a number of possible scenarios, including this one -- that explosives may have been moved before our troops even arrived, even arrived at the site. The investigation is important and ongoing. And a political candidate who jumps to conclusions without knowing the facts is not the person you want as the Commander-in-Chief.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/10/20041027-9.html

- Phil

jrock5730
10-28-2004, 03:17 PM
The truly sad part about all of this:

PEOPLE WILL STILL VOTE FOR THIS PERSON

Holla9
10-28-2004, 03:24 PM
The truly sad part about all of this:

PEOPLE WILL STILL VOTE FOR THIS PERSON

And possibly even the majority ;)

crosscg
10-28-2004, 03:26 PM
I'm swaying back and forth on a daily basis at this point.

jrock5730
10-28-2004, 03:29 PM
And possibly even the majority ;)

I doubt the majority, but that didn't keep him from winning last time either now did it.

jrock5730
10-28-2004, 03:30 PM
I'm swaying back and forth on a daily basis at this point.

I just hope its Kerry on the crucial day. :) We won't get the answers we are looking for before the election, so you might as well just decide and let it be.

DMBSignGuy
10-28-2004, 03:32 PM
From the White House transcript:

THE PRESIDENT: Now the Senator is making wild charges about missing explosives, when his top foreign policy advisor admits "we don't know the facts." End quote. Think about that. The Senator is denigrating the actions of our troops and commanders in the field without knowing the facts. Unfortunately, that's part of the pattern of saying anything it takes to get elected. Like when he charged that our military failed to get Osama bin Laden at Tora Bora, even though our top military commander, General Tommy Franks, said, "The Senator's understanding of events does not square with reality," and intelligence reports place bin Laden in any of several different countries at the time.

See, our military is now investigating a number of possible scenarios, including this one -- that explosives may have been moved before our troops even arrived, even arrived at the site. The investigation is important and ongoing. And a political candidate who jumps to conclusions without knowing the facts is not the person you want as the Commander-in-Chief.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/10/20041027-9.html

- Phil

:lol i saw that and was laughing my ass off. thats just too much for me to take. :lol

GreenJester
10-28-2004, 03:38 PM
So we didn't go to war for oil....? I'm confused now.

*shrugs*
*cracks open a can of oil and starts chugging*

ss10mets
10-28-2004, 04:03 PM
From the White House transcript:

THE PRESIDENT: Now the Senator is making wild charges about missing explosives, when his top foreign policy advisor admits "we don't know the facts." End quote. Think about that. The Senator is denigrating the actions of our troops and commanders in the field without knowing the facts. Unfortunately, that's part of the pattern of saying anything it takes to get elected. Like when he charged that our military failed to get Osama bin Laden at Tora Bora, even though our top military commander, General Tommy Franks, said, "The Senator's understanding of events does not square with reality," and intelligence reports place bin Laden in any of several different countries at the time.

See, our military is now investigating a number of possible scenarios, including this one -- that explosives may have been moved before our troops even arrived, even arrived at the site. The investigation is important and ongoing. And a political candidate who jumps to conclusions without knowing the facts is not the person you want as the Commander-in-Chief.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/10/20041027-9.html

- Phil


Thank you, for awhile I thought I would be attacked for making this up.... I laughed so hard when that came on, I couldn't believe he said it. Of course 4.5 out of 10 Americans are too dumb to pick up on it.

GreenJester
10-28-2004, 04:37 PM
Thank you, for awhile I thought I would be attacked for making this up.... I laughed so hard when that came on, I couldn't believe he said it. Of course 4.5 out of 10 Americans are too dumb to pick up on it.
We can only hope the ratio swings that way... :(

ss10mets
10-28-2004, 09:05 PM
Anyone see Rudy's explanation of who to blame for the weapons missing now?? I used to have so much respect for him and now he says it isn't the President's fault but rather the troops who should have secured them...

pedelen99
10-28-2004, 10:55 PM
Anyone see Rudy's explanation of who to blame for the weapons missing now?? I used to have so much respect for him and now he says it isn't the President's fault but rather the troops who should have secured them...

I saw it.

"The actual responsibility for it really would be for the troops that were there," said Mr. Guiliani, "Did they search carefully enough? Didn't they search carefully enough?"

Here's the administrations position: the explosives were never at al Qaqaa at all. Or if they were there perhaps Saddam took them in March. Or if Saddam's men didn't take them for the insurgency then the Russians carted them off to Syria. Or if it really did happen as the critics say, well, then it was the fault of the troops on the ground.

Oh, and Kerry is belittling the actions of the troops. I forgot that part.

- Phil

marco j
10-28-2004, 11:56 PM
Anyone see Rudy's explanation of who to blame for the weapons missing now?? I used to have so much respect for him and now he says it isn't the President's fault but rather the troops who should have secured them...


yeah i heard it as well and i couldn't believe it. i have lost a lot of respect i had for this man over the last two years.

"yeah besides if it turns out to be tru it wouldn't be the president's fault it would be the troop fault for not securing the location."

what an ass. if they were told to watch the ammo and left he may be right but considering how the military works...not likely.

saygoodbye12
10-29-2004, 12:08 AM
Jon Stewart just did a bit on this. Very funny. :thumbsup