question about Carter's drums

[1adamsara0507]

Hey I was just wondering if anyone knew what Carter used to muffle all of his drums. They all have that perfect sound to them........probably because of mic's, yamaha recording custom, all that stuff. But I was just wondering what he used to muffle his?

[guitplyr86]

no idea, but damn does his set sound good live. must have great techs.

[eviltuna7]

i dont think he muffles his drums. i think the heads he uses are fairly thick.

[davehead1]

drums dont need to be muffled to sound good. if they're tuned correctly, they sound good. and i believe he uses Evans G2's which are 2 ply which is standard.

[equileus]

hey there.

There's a LOT of stuff done from post production and recording that can make a set of drums sound like gold.

It could be anything from the type of heads he uses, to micing, to the way its recorded and how many mics there are.


However...

There's also something called "gating"...this process eliminates lower and upper frequencies to the drums to make them sound phat. Hope that helps.

[|UAY| |)(V)|3]

When i play my kit i always put "moon gel" on the heads which cuts out the ringy sound...makes it sound more precise and solid...Esp. my floor tom

[equileus]

yeah, i myself use thicker heads.

[rawlogicdrumz]

Carter uses Evans G2 batter heads on top and Evans G1 batter heads on the bottom of his toms, with proper tuning, these heads will sound great with no tape/muffling whatsoever.

Other heads that will get a similiar soud are Remo Pinstripes or any two ply Aquarian head with a single ply head on the bottom.

Mic placement also plays a big part in drum sound, if you mic the top head, you'll get more attack and less sustain, which is what Carter has. If you mic the bottom head you'll get signifcantly less attack, and a pretty ringy overtoe sustain.

the type of wood the drums are made out of also effects the sound, Carter's Yamaha recording custom gets pretty much the best of both worlds because it is made of both birch and maple. Maple generally sounds brighter with more attack, because it is a harder wood. Birch is generally warmer sounding and has much less attack.

Being a Remo person, I recommend pinstripes on both top and bottom tom heads, they get great sound that doesn't really die out after you hit the head for a couple days. I also tend to like Maple drums for live applications, but for studio I prefer birch toms and bass drum with a maple snare. hope this helped you out.

[justinfisher78]

Carter uses Evans G2 batter heads on top and Evans G1 batter heads on the bottom of his toms, with proper tuning, these heads will sound great with no tape/muffling whatsoever.

Other heads that will get a similiar soud are Remo Pinstripes or any two ply Aquarian head with a single ply head on the bottom.

Mic placement also plays a big part in drum sound, if you mic the top head, you'll get more attack and less sustain, which is what Carter has. If you mic the bottom head you'll get signifcantly less attack, and a pretty ringy overtoe sustain.

the type of wood the drums are made out of also effects the sound, Carter's Yamaha recording custom gets pretty much the best of both worlds because it is made of both birch and maple. Maple generally sounds brighter with more attack, because it is a harder wood. Birch is generally warmer sounding and has much less attack.

Being a Remo person, I recommend pinstripes on both top and bottom tom heads, they get great sound that doesn't really die out after you hit the head for a couple days. I also tend to like Maple drums for live applications, but for studio I prefer birch toms and bass drum with a maple snare. hope this helped you out.


there's some skewed info in there my man.

maple is warmer sounding, with more sustain. birch is the shorter sounding drum with more attack. that's why birch drums tend to be used so much for studio work. hence recording custom's being made with a purely 100% birch shell.

i wouldn't recommend Pinstripes on top AND bottom. a good portion of the resonance of a drumset mounted tom comes from the bottom head. 2 plys on top/bottom, you're going to have a pretty dead drum. if you want a deep, resonant, full tone, then the best bet is to use a Pinstripe/Emperor type 2 ply head on top, and a single ply head for the resonant side, i.e. Ambassador/Diplomat.

[scoot_14]

http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=118230

I don't know if the original poster has seen this, but it answers a lot of questions about Carter's set up.

[BeaufordBuddy]

the type of wood the drums are made out of also effects the sound, Carter's Yamaha recording custom gets pretty much the best of both worlds because it is made of both birch and maple. Maple generally sounds brighter with more attack, because it is a harder wood. Birch is generally warmer sounding and has much less attack.


Actually Recording Customs are pure 100% birch. No maple at all.