Pro Wrestling is FAKE!?!

[jackisback24]

Of course I miss Raw tonight. Hope it's on Youtube soon (Punk clip).

[comerelaxnow]

Just goes to show you how much of a genius Vince still is. Punk probably did go up to him and express all of his problems with how they are using him and stuff and Vince may have agreed and said lets play on this and really get it going. I may have to order MITB.

[kittensXLI]

I think you can stretch it farther than that. Punk just owned it. The more this goes the more I think there is no script or storyline and Vince is allowing Punk to let loose since he knows he is gone. Also did they blank out douche bags?

I'm sure Vince was behind that, but it was still refreshing to hear someone talk like that.

Yeah. No way it wasn't a work.
Agreed with all of you guys. It's not going on TV without clearance from Vince. Unreal promo, but definitely had some sort of skeleton script.

[hbktonyb]

Is RR ever coming back??

[BotheDMBFan]

I am better than all of you.

[kittensXLI]

I am better than all of you.
You lucky azz azz.

[BAHHHTIWaC]

Shoot or not, what I just watched was the greatest promo I have ever seen.

[jaking1185]

I am better than all of you.

Bo wins the internet!

[AndySlash]

good stuff there by punk. great. pretty decent show overall. better than the last few for sure. definitely excited to see how the punk/cena stuff plays out.

[jackisback24]

http://www.pwinsider.com/article/59357/what-happened-after-raw-went-off-the-air-and-it-has-to-do-with-cm-punk.html?p=1

[BotheDMBFan]

Cena cut a killer promo for next week. VKM will be on too.

[kittensXLI]

This is great.

I wish there was a camera on Vince right now.

I am so psyched I tuned in tonight....

Punk owns.

That. Was. AWESOME! Holy shit, best thing I've seen in WWE since it was WWF.

Punk is fantastic.

..wow.. CM Punk just went there... and I like it! the man told it how it really is, and I love how they kept it going until he said the company would be better once Vince McMahon was dead! THEN THEY CUT HIS MIC!

Shoot or not, what I just watched was the greatest promo I have ever seen.
:thumbsup:thumbsup I wish you all posted in here more. Seriously. I like talking to Rodey and GrooGrux and mostly the rest of the regular guys in here, but hearing some opinions from you all would be fantastic as well. About anything. Pumped that Punk brings it out of people hahaha!

[Rodey]

"Suspended"

:lol

[ant_marching41]

Well that was incredible. Glad I DVR'd this and caught the ending live.

[BotheDMBFan]

http://www.pwinsider.com/article/59357/what-happened-after-raw-went-off-the-air-and-it-has-to-do-with-cm-punk.html?p=1

I thought that was tv. Shit. Well, yeah. That happened. Then Cena went beat mode to open the next show.

[BotheDMBFan]

R truth is killing it now about Progressive.

[BotheDMBFan]

Scott Stanford on the tv!

[kittensXLI]

I thought that was tv. Shit. Well, yeah. That happened. Then Cena went beat mode to open the next show.
Remember when someone tried to diss you for paying $40 total for these two episodes of Raw? :lol:lol

[BotheDMBFan]

Truth got a huge legit laugh pop. Truth is killing it. Called ADR Señor Jimmy.

[hbktonyb]

I love Troof.

[BotheDMBFan]

Santino!!!

[ant_marching41]

Double taping tonight I'm assuming?

[BotheDMBFan]

Yessir. I rule.

[jaking1185]

R Truth is 100X better as a heel. He has legit made me laugh a few times.

[hbktonyb]

Holy. Punk. Promo.


Sick.

[BotheDMBFan]

I saw 3 SCMs, Ryder win a match, Santino, and that Punk guy say some stuff.

[Richard Belding]

@sportsguy33
Bill Simmons
CM Punk's Monday Night Raw performance tonight was one for the ages. Masked Man called it: Best angle in awhile. es.pn/mP2b97

Link is to this article. I didn't see it earlier this week on Grantland. Reading it now.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6693053/the-ballad-cm-punk

[Rodey]

Troof heel is actually solid, but it doesn't make up for his terrible ring presence.

[kittensXLI]

Truth still can't wrestle. Still want him nowhere near a main event, or a title, or a push, or TV time on Raw or SD, or getting a WWE paycheck. I hate he gets to use awesome stuff like the no-entrance music entrance, and the suplex stunner. Someone more talented should get those haha.

[comerelaxnow]

When is Jericho coming back?

[hbktonyb]

Don't be a Little Jimmy.

[BotheDMBFan]

Raw is Ryder!!!!

[hbktonyb]

Idiotic daughter and doofus Son in Law :lol

[kittensXLI]

Don't be a Little Jimmy.
Lamest WWE catchphrase in years.

[BotheDMBFan]

Scott on a lot.

[comerelaxnow]

Lamest WWE catchphrase in years.

You mean next to Woo Woo Woo you know it!!

This is really just a test to see if Kittens still has me on ignore....;)

[clayj41]

:thumbsup:thumbsup I wish you all posted in here more. Seriously. I like talking to Rodey and GrooGrux and mostly the rest of the regular guys in here, but hearing some opinions from you all would be fantastic as well. About anything. Pumped that Punk brings it out of people hahaha!

That's the problem, Punk is the only one who gets me legitimately excited anymore.

[Speilmen230]

i am re watching raw from the start of the tornado tag to the end. Those last 30 minutes were fucking great. the high that i am on is better than it was when Rock made his return.

[hbktonyb]

Little Jimmy
CM Punk
Miz
WWWYKI

Best things in WWE right now.

[hbktonyb]

Douchebag yes men :lol :lol

[kittensXLI]

That's the problem, Punk is the only one who gets me legitimately excited anymore.
Fair enough. I'm glad someone does at least, even if it's just one guy. Obviously better than none.

On another note, I for one am glad there aren't any more gimmick Raws lined up for a while. Guest hosts, voting, roulette, just yuck in my opinion. Do you guys like any or all of those concepts? The draft is okay I guess.

[comerelaxnow]

I don't know....usually the gimmicks suck but the last month or two of Raw has been awesome and its been full of these 3 hour gimmick raws

[K3nTaKa0s]

I think bothedmbfan needs to tell everyone who's wrestling right now.

[Speilmen230]

Bo is currently texting me the happs of next weeks raw.

[BAHHHTIWaC]

I felt tonight's Raw was just a rehash of the last week (including Capitol Punishment). But Lord baby Jesus did that Punk promo get me excited about something in the WWE.

[YankeesDMB41]

thats the reason cm punk is my favorite superstar ever...holy shit can that man cut a promo

[Speilmen230]

Current live results for next weeks raw:

big spoilers, don't click unless you wanna read what happens on next weeks episode: http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/ongoing-live-wwe-raw-results-for-next-week-131977

[jackisback24]

Bill Demott's book > CM Punk

But here is some of the promo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTcB9j4A834

[kittensXLI]

thats the reason cm punk is my favorite superstar ever...holy shit can that man cut a promo
:thumbsup:thumbsup

[YankeesDMB41]

:thumbsup:thumbsup

hes seriously the best heel ive seen in my 10+ years watching

[clayj41]

Fair enough. I'm glad someone does at least, even if it's just one guy. Obviously better than none.

On another note, I for one am glad there aren't any more gimmick Raws lined up for a while. Guest hosts, voting, roulette, just yuck in my opinion. Do you guys like any or all of those concepts? The draft is okay I guess.

I mean, the reason I started watching again a few months back was because of all the rumblings surrounding Punk's contract situation. I've always liked him and figured that if this was his swan song with the WWE, I'd tune in to watch it. Everything he said tonight rang so true and partially explains why I gave up on the WWE in the first place.

That said, I have also grown fond of ADR since I tuned back in and continue to support Randy Orton despite the Viper gimmick having long outstayed its welcome. I guess Miz is enjoyable enough, but I will never be able to fully embrace given how much of a Real World fan I used to be. :lol

[Rodey]

I'll be pretty mad if ADR doesn't win MITB.

[hbktonyb]

I mean, the reason I started watching again a few months back was because of all the rumblings surrounding Punk's contract situation. I've always liked him and figured that if this was his swan song with the WWE, I'd tune in to watch it. Everything he said tonight rang so true and partially explains why I gave up on the WWE in the first place.

That said, I have also grown fond of ADR since I tuned back in and continue to support Randy Orton despite the Viper gimmick having long outstayed its welcome. I guess Miz is enjoyable enough, but I will never be able to fully embrace given how much of a Real World fan I used to be. :lol

You should watch this past season. Best one in a long while. Adam Royer wasted.

[jackisback24]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q05Op-o0lXg

[clayj41]

You should watch this past season. Best one in a long while. Adam Royer wasted.

I still watch the various challenges on the reg. That's the only way I'm introduced to new castmates.

[keithcoldroses]

I'll be pretty mad if ADR doesn't win MITB.

I think it's gotta be between him and Riley at this point. I'm leaning towards Riley winning, because I don't think ADR needs it, even though I'd rather see ADR win.

[K3nTaKa0s]

It's going to be Cena/Del Rio at Summerslam.

[Speilmen230]

here is a count of WWE fas paux that Punk broke:

Acknowledging backstage politics
name dropping Hulk Hogan
Acknowledging 'kayfabe'
Using the word Wrestler
alluding to the Punk hate train
Paul Heyman and Brock Lesnar name drops
noting that he is shit on by WWE advertising and marketing
New Japan Pro Wrestling & Ring of Honor name drops
Colt Cabana name drop
using the word Douche Bag
Shitting on Johnny Ace and his yes man attitude
Idiotic Daughter and Stupid Son in Law reference
Almost got out rub on the Bully Campaign

No way one of the writers had the balls or brains to come up with all that.

[dmbmuskie]

Why is he wearing an Austin shirt?

[K3nTaKa0s]

here is a count of WWE fas paux that Punk broke:

Acknowledging backstage politics
name dropping Hulk Hogan
Acknowledging 'kayfabe'
Using the word Wrestler
alluding to the Punk hate train
Paul Heyman and Brock Lesnar name drops
noting that he is shit on by WWE advertising and marketing
New Japan Pro Wrestling & Ring of Honor name drops
Colt Cabana name drop
using the word Douche Bag
Shitting on Johnny Ace and his yes man attitude
Idiotic Daughter and Stupid Son in Law reference
Almost got out rub on the Bully Campaign

No way one of the writers had the balls or brains to come up with all that.

See how much better things can be when they actually let guys talk.

...although I don't think the average WWE fan gives a shit about the behind the scenes stuff.

[Speilmen230]

Why is he wearing an Austin shirt?

He is straight edge, no alcohol or drugs. he and austin have a friendly feud going on.

[BAHHHTIWaC]

Anyone know what things are looking like on Twitter right now?

EDIT: nevermind, most people are still working right now...

[jackisback24]

here is a count of WWE fas paux that Punk broke:

Acknowledging backstage politics
name dropping Hulk Hogan
Acknowledging 'kayfabe'
Using the word Wrestler
alluding to the Punk hate train
Paul Heyman and Brock Lesnar name drops
noting that he is shit on by WWE advertising and marketing
New Japan Pro Wrestling & Ring of Honor name drops
Colt Cabana name drop
using the word Douche Bag
Shitting on Johnny Ace and his yes man attitude
Idiotic Daughter and Stupid Son in Law reference
Almost got out rub on the Bully Campaign

No way one of the writers had the balls or brains to come up with all that.


Bully Campaign? This was a work of course and if you remember 12 years ago Vince let Jeff Jarrett "shoot" on a live Raw. Remember? Remember when Heyman cut the promo on Vince and threw his hat at him? Been there, done that. Good promo by CM Punk and he'll win Best on Interviews with the 2011 WON Awards w/that promo alone. What happens at the next stock brokers meeting when Steph and HHH take minutes and the marks in the audience ask if that was real?

[Speilmen230]

Bully Campaign? This was a work of course and if you remember 12 years ago Vince let Jeff Jarrett "shoot" on a live Raw. Remember? Remember when Heyman cut the promo on Vince and threw his hat at him? Been there, done that. Good promo by CM Punk and he'll win Best on Interviews with the 2011 WON Awards w/that promo alone. What happens at the next stock brokers meeting when Steph and HHH take minutes and the marks in the audience ask if that was real?

i know the whole thing is a work, but i am just utterly shocked at how much they let fly. that is a lot of 'no-no's' in one promo.

[gonz085]

i know the whole thing is a work, but i am just utterly shocked at how much they let fly. that is a lot of 'no-no's' in one promo.

But isn't that a good sign that they realize there are a lot of problems that need fixed?

[Speilmen230]

See how much better things can be when they actually let guys talk.

...although I don't think the average WWE fan gives a shit about the behind the scenes stuff.

i think part of what made it so great is the fact that we don't get to hear them too often. When you do get to hear them like this, they come off being even more special.

[Speilmen230]

But isn't that a good sign that they realize there are a lot of problems that need fixed?

doubtful, imo atleast. I think they are going to continue the machine. I really hope the HHH era sees it push the boundaries of the PG element. PG can be fun. Everything in tonights show was PG and was for the most part pretty good, Punk was 11/10.

[jackisback24]

http://www.wrestleview.com/viewnews.php?id=1309234107

[JacobLovesYou]

haven't decided yet whether or not i want look at the spoilers for next week...

[Speilmen230]

Mick Foley: I have no idea where this @cmpunk thing might go, but I know I'll be watching. Captivating stuff.

Jim Ross: Most compelling, controversial end of Raw in a long time. @cmpunk edgy, attitudinal & full of rage. Don't know what to think. Wow.

Joey Styles: Holy crap! I thought I was bad when I was shooting on Vince and the company. OMG! Holy crap!

Steve Austin: @CMPunk just melted my 52 inch TV with a scorching hot promo...delivery, content, and attitude...one of the best promos I've ever seen.

Taz: Punk did a great job & I always liked him when we were in wwe together and his work! But I must say... There r many of us who were NEVER pushed to the level Punk was & were NEVER allowed to shoot like that, he's lucky he was allowed to do that.

Colt Cabana:Love Ya @CMPUNK. Just watching you make HISTORY!!! This is soooo f**king amazing...AMAZING!!! #IWantWrestling

[kittensXLI]

Looks like Punk deleted/is deleting his Twitter. Gettin' good.

[mja271]

i know the whole thing is a work, but i am just utterly shocked at how much they let fly. that is a lot of 'no-no's' in one promo.

I thought one of the biggest ones that I was stunned to see in there was him calling out the fact that The Rock is in the main event for WM next year

[mja271]

Looks like Punk deleted/is deleting his Twitter. Gettin' good.

His last tweet was something along the lines of "I'm in full on "what are they gonna do, fire me?" mode

[kittensXLI]

His last tweet was something along the lines of "I'm in full on "what are they gonna do, fire me?" mode
:lol That's awesome.

Still laughing that he name-dropped pretty much anything and everything and everyone except TNA. Screams volumes.

[clayj41]

Looks like Punk deleted/is deleting his Twitter. Gettin' good.

His WWE controlled Facebook page has also been pulled and he no longer appears on the Superstars roster page on WWE's website.

But of course his merchandise can still be purchased. :lol

[JacobLovesYou]

does any one in here think there's any chance that he'll stay? because in my mind i have the greatest idea ever. btw, since HHH was advertised as being at MITB when the tickets went on sale, does anyone think that he comes out when vince does?

[YankeesDMB41]

i really really hope the match still happens at MITB

[kittensXLI]

I mean, the reason I started watching again a few months back was because of all the rumblings surrounding Punk's contract situation. I've always liked him and figured that if this was his swan song with the WWE, I'd tune in to watch it. Everything he said tonight rang so true and partially explains why I gave up on the WWE in the first place.

That said, I have also grown fond of ADR since I tuned back in and continue to support Randy Orton despite the Viper gimmick having long outstayed its welcome. I guess Miz is enjoyable enough, but I will never be able to fully embrace given how much of a Real World fan I used to be. :lol
I feel like Alberto Del Rio is definitely one of the guys longtime fans or older aged fans appreciate. His gimmick, promos, technical in-ring talent, etc. are all very good. Obviously being PG, it's harder to market that, which in return makes it tougher for ADR in my opinion. But he's someone more for "us" than kids, and he's dang good. So happy you've started warming up to him. :thumbsup

I agree with you completely about Orton too. Not a fan of the Viper whatsoever.

Big Miz fan over here.

I'll be pretty mad if ADR doesn't win MITB.
I don't think it's a secret they've been kicking around ADR/Cena for SummerSlam. So if it takes MITB to do it, so be it. But ADR getting back to the main event is something I for one look forward to no matter how it happens.

I think it's gotta be between him and Riley at this point. I'm leaning towards Riley winning, because I don't think ADR needs it, even though I'd rather see ADR win.
I agree, ADR doesn't seem to need MITB. I don't think The Miz "needs" it either, but as far as storylines go, I thought it made sense for him to win it. Some outlandish and unrealistic dream scenario of mine is for Miz to win MITB, but save his cash-in for WM28. Announce ahead of time he's cashing in that night, like during the build-up to it. Even if Cena loses the title between now and then, he'll assumingly get it back. So Miz announcing his cash-in near the PPV and when Cena is champion, Rock could put Miz over huge, and for the title. Then prolong Rock/Cena until the next PPV if not SummerSlam 2012. But again, just a massive dream scenario.

Why is he wearing an Austin shirt?
Punk is straight edge, and obviously Austin is a beer swilling redneck. They've had an on-going yet playful "feud" primarily outside WWE programming about Punk being "better than" Austin and playing into their lifestyles. It was eventually teased on Raw two weeks ago in a brief backstage altercation between them. Just pulling at the heartstrings of people with a dream match of Punk/Austin on their wishlists.

haven't decided yet whether or not i want look at the spoilers for next week...
I hate that next week isn't live. The live atmosphere is just so noticably different for me. I think Smackdown would be a lot different, at least in perception, if it was live too. I never really read spoilers, but this week is going to be tough. So pumped to see where this goes.

[crashintonickdm]

so whats the deal? was this a real life shoot where he actually goes off on vince and co. or is this setting up for future PPVs? i hope its the former. i hate the direction theyve gone the last 7+ years

[kittensXLI]

His WWE controlled Facebook page has also been pulled and he no longer appears on the Superstars roster page on WWE's website.

But of course his merchandise can still be purchased. :lol
:lol Oh of course!

does any one in here think there's any chance that he'll stay? because in my mind i have the greatest idea ever. btw, since HHH was advertised as being at MITB when the tickets went on sale, does anyone think that he comes out when vince does?
Bo and I a week or so ago kicked around (lame/dream) ideas of what would or could happen. It wouldn't be surprising, to us at least, that he's already re-signed or in the process of re-signing. But the main thing being he's taking time off before actually coming back. I think it could be a test as well, at least with marketing. Maybe they're going to see how well this storyline goes over before giving him a final new offer. See how the ratings do, the buys do, and maybe merchandise as well. It's all got to be leverage.

Or he'll straight up be done. lol. I love that we really have no idea what's going to happen. Makes this all so much more awesome to see unfold. I'm very excited for whatever happens, even if he's finished. I think he should take some time off regardless, but being on fire now how can you?

[JRS1386]

steveaustinBSR Steve Austin
@CMPunk just melted my 52 inch TV with a scorching hot promo...delivery, content, and attitude...one of the best promos I've ever seen.

[JacobLovesYou]

my idea for punk:

it includes a few minor spoilers from thing that're happening at the taping so i'll spoil it

at the end of next weeks/tonights taping, vince comes out and tells Cena that he can't allow punk to fight at MITB after what he said. HHH's music hits and he talks about the future and his own part in it. cena asks vince to let HHH decide punk's fate. it takes H a minute, but he says punk gets to fight.

then, at MITB, when cena looks to be in control of the match, HHH comes out and hits cena with the sledgehammer and punk wins. to end the PPV, HHH cuts a promo saying that the company is in new hands and that together, punk and him are going to change the WWE.

complete pipe dream, but would be sooooooo bad ass

[JacobLovesYou]

i cracked and read the RAW spoilers. my brother is going to be pissed at me. looks like some more interesting stuff. could it be that an angle involving cena is one of the most heralded of the year :eek

[clayj41]

i cracked and read the RAW spoilers. my brother is going to be pissed at me. looks like some more interesting stuff. could it be that an angle involving cena is one of the most heralded of the year :eek

:thumbsup Just read them as well. I like the direction this is going.

[keithcoldroses]

Just read the spoilers and I think they really fucked this up.

[clayj41]

@ KMHeiman

There was certainly much more that could have been done, especially in regards to Punk himself. What I like about it is that Cena's persona actually gains a little substance, which in turn benefits the WWE as a whole and gives Punk a little more clout (especially with those fans who think he is joking when he says he is the best the WWE has to offer). Absent Punk signing an undisclosed contract extension though, they couldn't really afford to let this thing run its course. The PPV is only 3 weeks away and there has to be some sort of buildup, absent the suspension being real.

[keithcoldroses]

@ clayj41

The only thing I really hate is the whole Cena fired angle. We ALL know that the WWE isn't actually going to fire Cena, and this leaves me to believe that CM Punk literally has no chance of winning anymore. Because up until now, I actually thought he did. Cena will win, Punk will leave, and that'll be the end of it. I really thought they could have done so much more with this angle, but maybe they still will. At this point, I'd be shocked if Punk didn't sign a new contract already (he'll probably take a few months off and then come back), but it'll still be interesting to see how this pans out.

[hbktonyb]

I hate the new stipulation. Because we all know there is 0% chance Cena is going anywhere and we are questioning Punk's status. Makes us feel like we know the outcome of the match. Doesn't mean they can't have Cena lose and then reinstated, but c'mon, they could have come up with something better than that.

[CrashDMB237]

I hate the new stipulation. Because we all know there is 0% chance Cena is going anywhere and we are questioning Punk's status. Makes us feel like we know the outcome of the match. Doesn't mean they can't have Cena lose and then reinstated, but c'mon, they could have come up with something better than that.

I agree. I also should not have read next week's spoilers... kinda ruined last night for me.

[hbktonyb]

Same here. Oh well.

[CrashDMB237]

Well, one thing is for sure, CM Punk is no Bully Ray amirite?

[hbktonyb]

No one is Bully Ray.

[Speilmen230]

It really does kinda suck that this is one of the best storylines we have gotten in the last year or so, and it kinda gets ruined by it being a double taping because of the 4th.

[Speilmen230]

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/exclusive-backstage-reaction-to-cm-punks-raw-promo-131989

While some people backstage knew it was coming, CM Punk's shoot promo on Monday Night Raw certainly had everyone buzzing. When Punk started talking about being "a Paul Heyman guy," and referenced controversial, past WWE names like Brock Lesnar, many wrestlers watching on the monitor were said to be "simply and solidly stunned" according to one WWE Superstar we spoke with, and several others were trying to find out Talent Exec John Laurinaitis' reaction as well.

While no one believes Punk went into business for himself, the majority of the Raw locker room was said to be "in shock" (according to one source in production) over how strong the shoot promo was, and the delivery.

We will have tons more on this breaking story as it continues to develop.After reading the results from next week it obviously wasn't a shoot, and it never was a shoot. since his mic would have been cut off immediately.

[Speilmen230]

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/music-legend-billy-corgan-comments-on-cm-punks-promo-132003

[Crush086]

Kinda disappointing it wasn't an actual shoot. I don't know what the deal is next week, but you could've told me it was a shoot and I'd have believed you.

[Rodey]

I feel left out. Not going to read the Raw spoilers though. I doubt I'll be doing anything of importance next Monday night since all of the fireworks festivities and what not around here are over the weekend.

[Crush086]

Don't worry Rodey, I didn't read the spoilers either. I don't plan on it either. My dad will be in town and he's a wrestling fan too so I'll be watching it regardless.

[kittensXLI]

I feel left out. Not going to read the Raw spoilers though. I doubt I'll be doing anything of importance next Monday night since all of the fireworks festivities and what not around here are over the weekend.

Don't worry Rodey, I didn't read the spoilers either. I don't plan on it either. My dad will be in town and he's a wrestling fan too so I'll be watching it regardless.
I'm with you guys. No spoilers here either. Still excited for next week.

[kittensXLI]

Bo and jackisback should be pumped about this : http://www.pwinsider.com/article/59373/long-awaited-stan-hansen-autobiography-being-released-this-summer.html?p=1

[Rodey]

I want to go to MITB now, but I need to find someone to go with. :shrug

[kittensXLI]

:lol Vintage Punk : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8ERXZR8F9I

[kittensXLI]

So apparently people want to see an ROH stable? Punk, Daniel Bryan (Bryan Danielson), Kings Of Wrestling (Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli, assuming they sign[ed] contracts), Evan Bourne (Matt Sydal), Matt Stryker, and from FCW Seth Rollins (Tyler Black).

Talk about completely unrealistic nonsense. Although 6 of those 7 guys are awesome. That's a bigger pipedream than the "TNA should get Paul Heyman" stuff.

[Rodey]

Is Danielson unhappy with where he is too? I really like the feud he has going on with Cody, it's been one of the really bright spots on Smackdown for awhile now. If he just gets a little bit better on the stick, he could be a huge face in my opinion. He's definitely got the ring skills.

[kittensXLI]

Is Danielson unhappy with where he is too? I really like the feud he has going on with Cody, it's been one of the really bright spots on Smackdown for awhile now. If he just gets a little bit better on the stick, he could be a huge face in my opinion. He's definitely got the ring skills.
Beats me. That stable thing was just bs talk on other forums. Danielson can talk, he just needs pushed. I agree with you, his stuff with Cody has been very nice. No clue if he's unhappy about anything, though.

[BotheDMBFan]

Bo and jackisback should be pumped about this : http://www.pwinsider.com/article/59373/long-awaited-stan-hansen-autobiography-being-released-this-summer.html?p=1

I expect my chest to bleed and a copy of Vader's eye when I buy it.

[JacobLovesYou]

I read the spoilers & I'm pissed at myself for it, but I also know that 90% of wrestling isn't WHAT happened, but HOW it happened. At least that's how I've always felt.

[jaking1185]

Bo and jackisback should be pumped about this : http://www.pwinsider.com/article/59373/long-awaited-stan-hansen-autobiography-being-released-this-summer.html?p=1

The Lariat!

[Flip36]

i'm looking forward to Basebrawl this Friday! got my VIP package and get to meet Ric Fialr! Woooooooooooooo!

[K3nTaKa0s]

i'm looking forward to Basebrawl this Friday! got my VIP package and get to meet Ric Fialr! Woooooooooooooo!

Awesome! WOOOOOO!!!!!

[kittensXLI]

HEELZiggler Dolph Ziggler
Off to Las Vegas for 2 nights! You know what they say: What happens in Vegas....will probably end up on youtube!
26 Jun

HEELZiggler Dolph Ziggler
So many excited faces walking in to Vegas, so many sad faces leaving...... Kind of like my dates
22 hours ago

[kittensXLI]

I read the spoilers & I'm pissed at myself for it, but I also know that 90% of wrestling isn't WHAT happened, but HOW it happened. At least that's how I've always felt.
I agree with this completely.

I think there's no doubt CM Punk wins at MITB as well.

[JacobLovesYou]

I hope so

[AndySlash]

i would love to see punk win and be gone for a couple months. and i mean be gone- no sign of him whatsoever, with the rest of the wwe left to operate without their championship. the raw spoilers and the ongoing assumptions that del rio/cena may be the summerslam title match don't give me hope that this is what will occur, but you never know.

[Speilmen230]

how awesome would it be if he leaves with the WWE title and it was their way of out with old and in with the new, for championship designs?

Create a brand new belt then hold a tournament that runs up to summerslam, ending with Del Rio and Cena.

[Speilmen230]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6YhJgU8QQ8 = Awesome

[BotheDMBFan]

Still pumped from last night.

[kittensXLI]

Some more Dolph :

Michelle McCool recently revealed that your match at this year’s WrestleMania was cut short about 17 1/2 minutes. We didn’t get to see much from you in the match, so just as we’ve asked her, we’re going to ask you: were there any cool spots or surprises planned that you didn’t get to do?
“It was WrestleMania, so of course I had some tricks up my sleeve! I live for the spotlight and on the biggest stage of them all? Two of the brightest up-and-comers in this business, Morrison and myself, were looking to steal the show! We didn’t get the chance, so you better believe that we are drooling at that opportunity for next time! Ziggler vs. Morrison at WrestleMania would be near impossible to top, mark my words! Oh, also? Snooki was totally flirting with me so much, that she almost didn’t slap me.”

What is your biggest pet-peeve?
“Biggest pet peeve: snootiness! People often forget where they come from, or that they used to borrow money for food or gas, whatever! No matter how rich or cool or famous you are, you are not better than anyone else.”

$100: is that still a lot of money to you?
“100 dollars is still a lot of money! I just love that I don’t have to borrow it in order to spend it. I remember I wanted to take this girl on a date in college and I simply couldn’t, I had just enough for a case of NATURAL Light and could never afford dinner for two, even at The Olive Garden! I eventually had to tell her, and she thought it was cute, so win-win, right? haha (and she ended up buying me several dinners) thanks, Jac!”

Give us one ambition that is on your bucket list.
“I don’t do bucket list stuff, but I have done so many amazing things because of the company I work for, that to this day, it just blows my mind, and I’m only just getting started! But I could honestly see myself taking over for Hugh Hefner or maybe even Vince McMahon one day (my two favorite loves, sports entertainment and… um… the “magazine business” hahaha)”

When you arrive at TV and you learn that you’ll either be backstage with Vickie Guerrero watching a match for a few split seconds, or hashing out potential offers with The Miz, or even doing commentary, how does that affect your mojo? You’re not booked in a match, so what keeps you motivated and hopeful for the next show?
“Again, I’m a wrestling and sports entertainment fan, so I love to watch a live show and watch my friend’s matches, or just walk up into gorilla and yell about Zack Ryder being on the screen for a few seconds! I love doing what I do so much, that it does affect me when I don’t get to perform for the live audience, but… it is a television show. We all have different parts to help make it work, but don’t think that I wont make up for it at our live events! That’s where there is more fan interaction and EVERYONE is there to have a great experience!”

[comerelaxnow]

Punks rant for those who missed it or wanted to watch it over and over

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9wnH66KxNo

[hbktonyb]

I've watched it about 6 times already.

[Doors Allan Coe]

Punks rant for those who missed it or wanted to watch it over and over

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9wnH66KxNo

That is a damn entertaining promo.

Hopefully he get cheered.

[kittensXLI]

Why is X-Pac so cool now?

his review of Raw : http://www.pwinsider.com/article/59392/video-sean-waltman-reviews-the-cm-punk-raw.html?p=1

[hbktonyb]

I don't know what happened, but I love Syxx-Pac now.

[Speilmen230]

That is a damn entertaining promo.

Hopefully he get cheered.

awesome fucking promo. One of the best in the last 5 years.

[K3nTaKa0s]

The 6/27 edition of Raw did a 3.1 rating with 4,943,000 viewers. The show did hours of 3.1 and 3.16.

Source: PWInsider

[Speilmen230]

the sean waltman video review of raw is 100% spot on. I am shocked at how correct he was.

[Speilmen230]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/John-Layfield/194176253533

Jbl sounds off on cm punk and other assorted sports issues, and video is the one entitled hope this works

[hbktonyb]

@TheRock Dwayne Johnson
CM Punk: it's simple business - The Rock is the main event at Wrestlemania cause it draws more money in one night, then u will in lifetime.

[Rodey]

Some more Dolph :

Michelle McCool recently revealed that your match at this year’s WrestleMania was cut short about 17 1/2 minutes. We didn’t get to see much from you in the match, so just as we’ve asked her, we’re going to ask you: were there any cool spots or surprises planned that you didn’t get to do?
“It was WrestleMania, so of course I had some tricks up my sleeve! I live for the spotlight and on the biggest stage of them all? Two of the brightest up-and-comers in this business, Morrison and myself, were looking to steal the show! We didn’t get the chance, so you better believe that we are drooling at that opportunity for next time! Ziggler vs. Morrison at WrestleMania would be near impossible to top, mark my words! Oh, also? Snooki was totally flirting with me so much, that she almost didn’t slap me.”

What is your biggest pet-peeve?
“Biggest pet peeve: snootiness! People often forget where they come from, or that they used to borrow money for food or gas, whatever! No matter how rich or cool or famous you are, you are not better than anyone else.”

$100: is that still a lot of money to you?
“100 dollars is still a lot of money! I just love that I don’t have to borrow it in order to spend it. I remember I wanted to take this girl on a date in college and I simply couldn’t, I had just enough for a case of NATURAL Light and could never afford dinner for two, even at The Olive Garden! I eventually had to tell her, and she thought it was cute, so win-win, right? haha (and she ended up buying me several dinners) thanks, Jac!”

Give us one ambition that is on your bucket list.
“I don’t do bucket list stuff, but I have done so many amazing things because of the company I work for, that to this day, it just blows my mind, and I’m only just getting started! But I could honestly see myself taking over for Hugh Hefner or maybe even Vince McMahon one day (my two favorite loves, sports entertainment and… um… the “magazine business” hahaha)”

When you arrive at TV and you learn that you’ll either be backstage with Vickie Guerrero watching a match for a few split seconds, or hashing out potential offers with The Miz, or even doing commentary, how does that affect your mojo? You’re not booked in a match, so what keeps you motivated and hopeful for the next show?
“Again, I’m a wrestling and sports entertainment fan, so I love to watch a live show and watch my friend’s matches, or just walk up into gorilla and yell about Zack Ryder being on the screen for a few seconds! I love doing what I do so much, that it does affect me when I don’t get to perform for the live audience, but… it is a television show. We all have different parts to help make it work, but don’t think that I wont make up for it at our live events! That’s where there is more fan interaction and EVERYONE is there to have a great experience!”

Good stuff!

Ziggler seems like a really cool dude. One of my favorites for sure.

@TheRock Dwayne Johnson
CM Punk: it's simple business - The Rock is the main event at Wrestlemania cause it draws more money in one night, then u will in lifetime.

Oh my God, Rock. :lol

[hbktonyb]

If WWE does this right and Punk somehow sticks around he could be gigantic.

But Rock is right that him in the main event will draw a ton of money.

[Rodey]

I would pay very, very good money to see Rock vs. Punk instead of Rock vs. Cena.

[kittensXLI]

@TheRock Dwayne Johnson
CM Punk: it's simple business - The Rock is the main event at Wrestlemania cause it draws more money in one night, then u will in lifetime.
:lol Wow.

I would pay very, very good money to see Rock vs. Punk instead of Rock vs. Cena.
100% agreed.

[dmbmuskie]

There is a new piece up on Grantland.

I'm really thinking about tuning in next week to see this play out.

[JRS1386]

There is a new piece up on Grantland.

I'm really thinking about tuning in next week to see this play out.

Linkage?


Also Dwayne is a douche. It would have been huge if he took the insult and shrugged it off instead of trying to bury Punk via twitter. If the Rock isn't training in ring at least a half year before WM the match is going to horrible.

[kittensXLI]

Rock needs a heck of a lot more training than that. He's far from match-ready, let alone televised ready, let alone PPV ready, let alone PPV main event ready, let alone WrestleMania main event ready.

Punk column : http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6712903/punkd

Thanks muskie.

[hbktonyb]

I think Rock will be ready to go. I'm still looking forward to that match.

[JRS1386]

That was a good read. I may have to buy MITB

[Rodey]

Anyone in this thread in the vicinity of Chicago? I need someone to go to MITB with. :lol

[clayj41]

Anyone in this thread in the vicinity of Chicago? I need someone to go to MITB with. :lol

I tried to win tickets via the radio yesterday, but I have no interest in paying for tickets.

[Crush086]

Linkage?


Also Dwayne is a douche. It would have been huge if he took the insult and shrugged it off instead of trying to bury Punk via twitter. If the Rock isn't training in ring at least a half year before WM the match is going to horrible.
Realistically though, with Punk openly disparaging the company and essentially saying fuck you I'm out The Rock isn't wrong in calling him out.

I dig Punk, but I'd rather see Rock put an asswhooping on Cena. They'd probably bury Punk even further if he went up against the Rock anyways.

[kittensXLI]

Realistically though, with Punk openly disparaging the company and essentially saying fuck you I'm out The Rock isn't wrong in calling him out.

I dig Punk, but I'd rather see Rock put an asswhooping on Cena. They'd probably bury Punk even further if he went up against the Rock anyways.
Strongly disagree with that. Rock's widely known to put people over - Goldberg at Backlash, Brock Lesnar at SummerSlam, Jericho and Angle have each pinned The Rock at multiple PPVs, losing to Austin the first two WMs they fought, The freaking Hurricane on Raw. He's not some non-pinnable, always wins guy. Cena's going to go over too. I find it hard to believe if Punk/Rock had a one-off match, that Rock would win.

[Crush086]

Strongly disagree with that. Rock's widely known to put people over - Goldberg at Backlash, Brock Lesnar at SummerSlam, Jericho and Angle have each pinned The Rock at multiple PPVs, losing to Austin the first two WMs they fought, The freaking Hurricane on Raw. He's not some non-pinnable, always wins guy. Cena's going to go over too. I find it hard to believe if Punk/Rock had a one-off match, that Rock would win.
Before Punk's promo Monday I'd agree. But I don't see why they'd do that if he was openly saying he was leaving.

I like that Rock is a beatable guy too, but it would seem like everyone would if that happened. Punk beat Rock and left, and Rock made his grand return to the ring to lose to a guy leaving the company.

Unless I just totally misinterpreted the post and there's a totally different Punk scenario and he was actually content and happy with WWE.

[kittensXLI]

Before Punk's promo Monday I'd agree. But I don't see why they'd do that if he was openly saying he was leaving.

I like that Rock is a beatable guy too, but it would seem like everyone would if that happened. Punk beat Rock and left, and Rock made his grand return to the ring to lose to a guy leaving the company.

Unless I just totally misinterpreted the post and there's a totally different Punk scenario and he was actually content and happy with WWE.
I think I assumed you were talking about Rock/Punk at WM...?

Actually, I don't know. Rock/Punk at any PPV in a one-off match would see Punk winning, in my opinion. Doesn't matter if it's WM or not.

I guess I mean for the post in relation to pretty much any situation, with the one exception being Punk leaves/Rock returns. With Rock not returning full-time anyway that situation seemed pointless to factor. Was your post about Punk/Rock at MITB instead of Punk/Cena?

[Crush086]

I was talking WM. That's what I thought the topic was since Rock was mentioned. But given Punk's departure imminent I don't see how he'd stay with a company he hated all the way to WM.

If Punk was staying I'd imagine Rock would put him over no problem, but current circumstances I wouldn't see that happening.

I think I totally misinterpreted the post.

[rconverse]

Joe Flacco should have been in Capitol Punishment.

[BotheDMBFan]

Awesome?

[Rodey]

Jim Rome was talking about Punk's rant earlier and he never talks wrestling. He brought up a point that I actually think is really strong/good. He doesn't think Punk's promo was scripted because there's no way they'd give him the ok to trash the USA network like he did. That makes a lot of sense.

[BotheDMBFan]

X-Pac...y u gotta be so awsum naw?

[BotheDMBFan]

Jim Rome was talking about Punk's rant earlier and he never talks wrestling. He brought up a point that I actually think is really strong/good. He doesn't think Punk's promo was scripted because there's no way they'd give him the ok to trash the USA network like he did. That makes a lot of sense.

It was a direction, but he gave the promo non-scripted. Like always.

[Crush086]

Joe Flacco should have been in Capitol Punishment.
lulz

Just because there's no football this year doesn't mean you should bring your Joe Flacco slander to this thread.

[K3nTaKa0s]

Wow. Randy Orton is a real piece of shit.

[Crush086]

What happened with Orton? Or is this just voicing opinion?

[Crush086]

Nevermind, I'm guessing you're talking about that interview he had.

[BotheDMBFan]

Going to listen to the Orton radio interview now.

[BotheDMBFan]

http://randy-orton.com/2011/06/randy-talks-with-98-kupd-arizonas-real-rock/

[JacobLovesYou]

I'm on my phone, what'd he say?

[Crush086]

I'm on my phone, what'd he say?
Listening now.

Says he's too oily.

Says Kelly Kelly has been banged by tons of people

Talks about how he's instructed to hold his pose when it seems he's on the turnbuckle too long.

Interview is 40+ minutes.

Also said his wife saved his life (drug related).

[hbktonyb]

I got through 5 minutes and couldn't deal with it anymore.

[Crush086]

It's pretty good so far Tony, you should try it again.

[BotheDMBFan]

This shit is hilarious and awesome.

[Crush086]

Said Cena is better on the Rock on the mic. rofl

[BotheDMBFan]

Better than Rock right NOW. Which I agree.

[kittensXLI]

Rock has been bad on the mic since like 2001.

Kelly Kelly is 24 years old. I'm not surprised she's summed 3/4 the lockerroom.

[JacobLovesYou]

That's good shit about Kelly Kelly

[hbktonyb]

It's pretty good so far Tony, you should try it again.

Ok here goes nothing.

[kittensXLI]

So in a dark match, Ryder beat a dude who's tights ripped and his junk was hanging out. Classic.

Lame interview otherwise. Terrible hosts and Randy Borton lives on.

[BotheDMBFan]

Kittens, that shit was funny. Those hosts BLEW DICK though.

[hbktonyb]

I lasted 5 more minutes because I can't stand these hosts. Fuck it, I'll wait for one of you broskis to write a recap.

[Rodey]

I stare into the mirror. I like the things I see.

[Speilmen230]

i have always loved orton's interviews. he is always so frank and seems like a really laid back guy compared to how uptight he used to be back in the mid 00's.

[BotheDMBFan]

Randy Orton rules.

[BotheDMBFan]

Zack Ryder rules.

[BotheDMBFan]

CM Punk rules a lot.

[BotheDMBFan]

The Eugene gimmick is just slightly better than Hornswaggle.

[BotheDMBFan]

Nick Dinsmore was mad talented. What the fuck?

[BotheDMBFan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtEQ3QgukdU&feature=related

[BotheDMBFan]

Colt Cabana was aight too.

[JRS1386]

BretHart Bret Hart
Can't help but feel like @CMPunk leaving WWE is like Steve Carrell leaving "The Office"

BretHart Bret Hart
The best promos are always the ones that sound real

[BotheDMBFan]

I think Vince screws Cena at MiTB, and Punk becomes Vince's main ally.

[JacobLovesYou]

I'd like it

[BAHHHTIWaC]

I think Vince screws Cena at MiTB, and Punk becomes Vince's main ally.

I'd rather Vince not come back as the main villian; too much of a rehash of the Austin era. I think it'd be cool if they could work this into a Cena heel turn.

[BotheDMBFan]

I'd rather Vince not come back as the main villian; too much of a rehash of the Austin era. I think it'd be cool if they could work this into a Cena heel turn.

If it's in a spoiler, ssssshh, ya?

[BotheDMBFan]

Anyways, I think Vince wants one more lap around the track as a regular on-screen guy. This would be perfect for him, Punker gets his love. I think (hope) this leads to Punk v Austin at WM.

[Crush086]

I always loved Vince in the storylines. I'd be all for him making a return to the main event scene.

[JRS1386]

Why do you have to spoiler predictions?

[CrashDMB237]

Because it was a prediction based off something that happens in next week's Raw and some people didn't read the spoilers for it.

[Crush086]

Why do you have to spoiler predictions?
It most likely involves a storyline next week that nobody wants to give away for those that haven't or won't read the spoilers.

[hbktonyb]

I'd like it. Love Vince on camera. And they can easily do it where it is more Punk vs. Cena than Vince vs. Cena. But if Punk sticks around or even if he returns after a couple of months and continues his major attitude he can become an Austin-like face. No way a crowd can boo a guy like that.

[BotheDMBFan]

Punk is a significantly better heel than he is a face. I can see him hating on heel Vince and STILL getting the heel heat over Vince. I'm really curious to see what happens.

[hbktonyb]

I agree, he is an incredible heel. But with him, I could really see fans cheering the hell out of him. But they have to keep him like Austin was...act like a heel even though you are a face.

[JacobLovesYou]

i said this monday night, but i'd be interested to see if they would have HHH play the "heel vince" role. i know WWE does it every now and then, but HHH WAS advertised as being at MITB

[hbktonyb]

I'd like to see Haitch back on tv, maybe a new McMahon-Helmsley era :lol

[Speilmen230]

McMahon/Punk vs HHH/Cena

I know HHH/McMahon was done over and over again with DX, But this could be a lot different. Do it as Business Man HHH who now goes by Hunter and sides with Cena, and says that Cena is way more marketable than Punk. Vince THEN sides with Punk only to spite his Son-in-Law. This would get the kiddies really hating on punk because Vince really knows how to pander to the crowd. It could also possibly get Cena some cool factor with the older crowd because Haitch is endorsing him, even though he is fighting for what is 'right'.

There are so many ways they could go with this thing. It is truly one of the best storylines to come out of WWE in a long time.


on a side note: My Punk shirt came today! :bounce :bounce

[hbktonyb]

I like your storylines Speilman :thumbsup

[Speilmen230]

All i keep imagining is the top of the 9 pm hour Vinces music hits and he gives a 5 minute promo that is just getting the crowd so fired up and boo's are raining down upon him. Then in mid sentence, as he is dogging Cena, BAM HHH's music hits and the crowd erupts, Hunter comes down to the ring in a suit, and starts defending Cena and tells vince that he has lost it, and that it is time for him to step aside and let him (hunter) take things over.

Vince is appalled at the idea, and furthermore is disgusted that Hunter would side with Cena. Vince freaks out and tries to slap Haitch who then knocks him down and rips off his shirt and points towards the entrance ramp telling him to leave. Vince leaves the ring pissed.

Later in the night we see Vince entering CM Punks locker room.

At the top of the 10pm hour Cena comes out and cuts the standard Cena promo with Haitch at his side.

CM Punk interrupts and cuts from the top of the ramp. He panders to the crowd's boo's and eventually introduces his new business partner, Vince McMahon.

Vince is still the owner of the company and says that tonights main event will be CM Punk vs HHH with Vince as the special guest ref and Cena is banned from ringside.

how is that for heeling it up and making compelling TV?

[Speilmen230]

and yes i do realize that is a fairly large pipe dream.

[BotheDMBFan]

All i keep imagining is the top of the 9 pm hour Vinces music hits and he gives a 5 minute promo that is just getting the crowd so fired up and boo's are raining down upon him. Then in mid sentence, as he is dogging Cena, BAM HHH's music hits and the crowd erupts, Hunter comes down to the ring in a suit, and starts defending Cena and tells vince that he has lost it, and that it is time for him to step aside and let him (hunter) take things over.

Vince is appalled at the idea, and furthermore is disgusted that Hunter would side with Cena. Vince freaks out and tries to slap Haitch who then knocks him down and rips off his shirt and points towards the entrance ramp telling him to leave. Vince leaves the ring pissed.

Later in the night we see Vince entering CM Punks locker room.

At the top of the 10pm hour Cena comes out and cuts the standard Cena promo with Haitch at his side.

CM Punk interrupts and cuts from the top of the ramp. He panders to the crowd's boo's and eventually introduces his new business partner, Vince McMahon.

Vince is still the owner of the company and says that tonights main event will be CM Punk vs HHH with Vince as the special guest ref and Cena is banned from ringside.

how is that for heeling it up and making compelling TV?

No offense, but that sounds awful.

[BotheDMBFan]

McMahon/Punk vs HHH/Cena

I know HHH/McMahon was done over and over again with DX, But this could be a lot different. Do it as Business Man HHH who now goes by Hunter and sides with Cena, and says that Cena is way more marketable than Punk. Vince THEN sides with Punk only to spite his Son-in-Law. This would get the kiddies really hating on punk because Vince really knows how to pander to the crowd. It could also possibly get Cena some cool factor with the older crowd because Haitch is endorsing him, even though he is fighting for what is 'right'.

There are so many ways they could go with this thing. It is truly one of the best storylines to come out of WWE in a long time.


on a side note: My Punk shirt came today! :bounce :bounce

You'll have to quote to read this...

It wouldn't make sense on the marketability front, because Vince already has said that Punk isn't marketable, and that he doesn't deserve any of it. Spite is one thing, but there's gotta be more to it than that.

[hbktonyb]

You'll have to quote to read this...

It wouldn't make sense on the marketability front, because Vince already has said that Punk isn't marketable, and that he doesn't deserve any of it. Spite is one thing, but there's gotta be more to it than that.

:trap???

[jaking1185]

You'll have to quote to read this...

It wouldn't make sense on the marketability front, because Vince already has said that Punk isn't marketable, and that he doesn't deserve any of it. Spite is one thing, but there's gotta be more to it than that.

A spoiler within a spoiler. Pretty slick Bo.

Edit: and oh yeah, it would make more sense to have Punk and Cena ally with the opposite people.

[Speilmen230]

That is the biggest thing. I think Vince could push his ego up and tell punk and the fans that he hates Punk, but he hates Cena and HHH even more.

[BotheDMBFan]

That is the biggest thing. I think Vince could push his ego up and tell punk and the fans that he hates Punk, but he hates Cena and HHH even more.

Which would be lame and shitty. I really don't think this needs HHH until Punk and Vince get a CLEAR advantage over Cena. That said, none of this crap will happen and Punk will leave and then get a job working at Haagen Dazs.

[kittensXLI]

ZackRyder Zack Ryder
THE BROSKI is down under in Australia...can't find an Outback Steakhouse though...bogus
9 hours ago

[BotheDMBFan]

I come from a land down under!

[BotheDMBFan]

New EP tonight...right?

[kittensXLI]

Yeah. In a few hours hopefully.

I'm pumped for Superstars too. 5PM EST on WWE.com.

[rconverse]

lulz

Just because there's no football this year doesn't mean you should bring your Joe Flacco slander to this thread.

How is that slandorous? :lol

For real...The Brow would be awesome in the WWE. :thumbsup

[kittensXLI]

How is that slandorous? :lol

For real...The Brow would be awesome in the WWE. :thumbsup
New Tag Team Champions, the Brow Brothers :

http://images.teamtalk.com/08/09/800x600/WWE-RAW-Santino-Marella_1171903.jpg

http://www.gotitans.com/uni.jpg

[Rodey]

I keep thinking tonight is Friday because I don't have to work tomorrow. Looking forward to Smackdown though tomorrow!

[kittensXLI]

Cool 11-minute Jericho interview : http://thesuplex.com/interviews/video-chris-jericho-interview/

[Speilmen230]

Which would be lame and shitty. I really don't think this needs HHH until Punk and Vince get a CLEAR advantage over Cena. That said, none of this crap will happen and Punk will leave and then get a job working at Haagen Dazs.

I think he takes a few months off and then returns before or at the royal Rumble. There is no way atleast in my opinion that he is gone longer than that.

[K3nTaKa0s]

Yeah. In a few hours hopefully.

I'm pumped for Superstars too. 5PM EST on WWE.com.

^ A sign of a full-blown WWE fanboy.

[Crush086]

How is that slandorous? :lol

For real...The Brow would be awesome in the WWE. :thumbsup
I don't really know how it was slander, but regardless, there's already a unibrow in the WWE.

Joe's a tall enough guy, he could put on some mass and dominate the WWE much like he dominates the NFL.

I like your vision. I could see it.

[kittensXLI]

X-Pac blogs about Punk/Ryder : http://www.realxpac.com/midweek-update/194

[Speilmen230]

http://iwantwrestling.com/2011/06/30/more-former-wwe-writers-talk-cm-punk-formerly-creative-podcast/

really interesting podcast. these guys are all ex-wwe writers. Really awesome to hear their views.

[Speilmen230]

Jesus, some of these ideas are just really interesting, and awesome. It would be really interesting to see what ideas have been shot down in the creative room.

[jaking1185]

Macho Man's death is officially heart disease:

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/randy-macho-man-savage-cause-of-death-heart-attack-in-car-crash-063011/?gt1=39002

[Rodey]

X-Pac blogs about Punk/Ryder : http://www.realxpac.com/midweek-update/194

His physique is average...

Are you serious bro?!

[kittensXLI]

Are you serious bro?!
X-Pac has been on a roll lately. I'll let that comment about the Woo Woo Woo Kid slide.

[kittensXLI]

Hogan kicking off TNA... WRESTLING MATTERS!!!

[kittensXLI]

Dark Knight facepaint? Seriously?

[kittensXLI]

Why is any of this happening? Hogan is a heel? Sting is acting like a heel attacking a heel? Anderson still is a face...or a heel?

[kittensXLI]

How many people are going to get drugged with pills on a TNA broadcast? Seriously. It's not cool or edgy.

[kittensXLI]

Immortal was where last week when EB was getting attacked by Sting? But they're here for Hogan now.

[K3nTaKa0s]

Hilarious.

[kittensXLI]

So Gunner pins then World Champion Sting on Impact, and then the new World Champion Mr. Anderson on the next Impact, then isn't on the last Impact, and is now in a Bound For Glory tournament. Right.

[K3nTaKa0s]

So Gunner pins then World Champion Sting on Impact, and then the new World Champion Mr. Anderson on the next Impact, then isn't on the last Impact, and is now in a Bound For Glory tournament. Right.

What's your point?

[kittensXLI]

:lol:lol Everyone in the front row was reaction-less until the camera panned past their faces.

[kittensXLI]

Samoa Joe versus D-Von Dudley...WRESTLING MATTERS!!!

Especially after that, what, 23 minute opening PROMO. WRESTLING MATTERS!!!

[BotheDMBFan]

This is the worst shit ever.

[K3nTaKa0s]

Samoa Joe versus D-Von Dudley...WRESTLING MATTERS!!!

Especially after that, what, 23 minute opening PROMO. WRESTLING MATTERS!!!

You're an idiot.

[kittensXLI]

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol D-Von? Really? :lol:lol

[Rodey]

You're an idiot.

That opening segment was abysmal television.

[kittensXLI]

...and this is why Wang and Shane got cut from WWE.

[Rodey]

Awesome main event tonight guys. Sting vs. Big Poppa Pump. Really excited for that one.

[hbktonyb]

Any Bully Ray sightings yet?

[kittensXLI]

Any Bully Ray sightings yet?
Yup. Multiple. Tune in to watch the abortion live!

[kittensXLI]

I wonder when the star ratings for ROH will be published.

[Crush086]

Hulk Hogan vs. Sting

wat

I'll still watch it.

[kittensXLI]

Brooke Adams has only had a dozen matches in her entire life prior to tonight. Shocking.

[hbktonyb]

Bully!@!!

[kittensXLI]

When are the Knockouts tag team titles going to be defended?!

[kittensXLI]

Contract signing??? But WRESTLING MATTERS???

[kittensXLI]

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol Jerry Lynn? Are they serious? lololol :lol:lol

[Crush086]

RVD pls go

[kittensXLI]

AJ's highlights are so retro.

Where are RVD's kneepads?

I thought Wrestling Matters?

[kittensXLI]

Why would you not put him through the table?

[Crush086]

Wasn't Gunner a security guard? Is he on Styles level?

[kittensXLI]

Horrendous, unnecessary blade job. Must have learned from Hogan in the Immortal lockerroom.

[kittensXLI]

Wasn't Gunner a security guard? Is he on Styles level?
Yes, he was a bodyguard. Good observation. :thumbsup

Gunner pinned World Champion Sting a few weeks ago.

Then he wasn't on the last PPV TNA just had.

Then Gunner pinned new World Champion Mr. Anderson the next week on Impact.

Then he wasn't on the following Impact after that (last week).

So really, none of the "booking" makes any sense whatsoever.