Pro Wrestling is FAKE!?!

[JRS1386]

Lawler getting a vacation?

[kittensXLI]

"Get Cole! Go get Michael Cole!"

:lol:lol

[justinandimcool]

That looked like it hurt.

Not a bad segment at all. This is good booking folks, build a character over months so a dude who can't talk can still carry the belt and put on an entertaining promo.

[Speilmen230]

yeah, this is solid building. Michael hays is the one to thank for this since he is the creative force behind SD!

[kittensXLI]

Kelly2 is the worst. Ever. Seriously.

[Rodey]

Kelly! So hawt.

[JRS1386]

Fuck, I was hoping the divas match already would have happened so I could skip it when I catch up later.

Shit Randy Orton is getting the belt back at HIAC.

[kittensXLI]

Okay let's do this! WOO WOO WOO!

[justinandimcool]

Yes YES YES!!!!

[JRS1386]

Ryder with the Woo Woo Woolverine? What is going on? This is awesome! I really want Dr. Cox to come out and attack Jackman

[kittensXLI]

Up next is going to rule so hard. Dolph and Zack is the dream matchup! WWWYKI!

[JRS1386]

For the belt or no?

[kittensXLI]

For the belt or no?
Which one? :lol

Neither unless I missed something. It's going to be so awesome regardless.

[Rodey]

Yes broskis it's time!!!

WWWYKI!

[kittensXLI]

WOO WOO WOO YOU KNOW IT!

Yeeeeeeessssssssssss!

[Rodey]

Epic ring gear!

[kittensXLI]

omg omg lol

[kittensXLI]

Broski Boot!

[justinandimcool]

Awesome tights are awesome.

Iced Z should be amazing.


ARE YOU SERIOUS BRO ON THE KICKOUT :lol :lol :lol

[kittensXLI]

Dolph and Zack would be such a fantastic feud. They both "get it". Unreal chemistry.

[JRS1386]

Woo Woo Woo!

[Rodey]

Yes! Yes!

[justinandimcool]

omg amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That looked like a stiff punch from Jackman :lol SO GOOD!

[kittensXLI]

WOO WOO WOO!

Amazing. Best Raw. Match of the Year.

[Rodey]

"Are you serious bro?!" on the kickout was amazing. :lol

[JRS1386]

Dolph and Zack would be such a fantastic feud. They both "get it". Unreal chemistry.

Did you read this, broski?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/855594-wwe-night-of-champions-2011-results-what-we-learned-from-dolph-zigglers-win-in/page/2

[kittensXLI]

So many Zack signs all over Clevetown too. Glad the crowd tonight at least got it right for one worker.

[JRS1386]

I hope Dolph tweets something tonight and uses the #areyouseriousbro tag

[kittensXLI]

I wonder how Ask The Heel will go down, if at all, on Episode 32.

[kittensXLI]

Loving that video package for Swags.

And a promo spot backstage? NICE!

[kittensXLI]

I'm not sure what's worse, Cena's lack of promo talent, lack of wrestling talent, or when Cena "breaks down" everything from an entire storyline in his nightly promo. Jesus Christ stfu Cena.

[JRS1386]

Cena was not horrible there. Not good, just not horrible. Love Punk saying Cena being the first championed fire would be history brought the :lol

[JRS1386]

I'm not sure what's worse, Cena's lack of promo talent, lack of wrestling talent, or when Cena "breaks down" everything from an entire storyline in his nightly promo. Jesus Christ stfu Cena.

I thought that wasn't horrible. I mean it wasn't good, but he has been a lot worse. I hate when he gets all worked up and starts yelling

[kittensXLI]

Miz is truly AWESOME.

Truth sucks.

[JRS1386]

ISn't the Miz from Cleveland or is my memory failing me?

[justinandimcool]

Miz with that white-boy rhythm. Still awesome.

[kittensXLI]

ISn't the Miz from Cleveland or is my memory failing me?
You are correct.

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/72/mizwallpaper.jpg

[JRS1386]

:lol nice

[Speilmen230]

i never understood the BE MIZ tagline.


anyone care to explain it?

[JRS1386]

i hope Laurinitis is fired

[Rodey]

They need to stop hyping who's getting fired. We all know it's Laurinitis.

[kittensXLI]

i hope Laurinitis is fired
It has to be him.

Oh, and thanks for that Dolph link earlier broski. Nice find. :thumbsup

[kittensXLI]

They need to stop hyping who's getting fired. We all know it's Laurinitis.
It could be something ridiculous like H. Vince will come back.

[kittensXLI]

Punk mixing in some very good moves into his set tonight. I like it a lot!

[JRS1386]

CM Punk is so good in the ring.

[justinandimcool]

Super Punk!!!

[kittensXLI]

Wow. Very good finish. I'm surprised.

Good work.

Now do the lame firing thing and lets go to next week.

[JRS1386]

Well that's a curveball

[justinandimcool]

lmao what's happening :lol

[Rodey]

That was it? Okay, retarded.

[justinandimcool]

omg omg omg this is great omg yes!!!

[Rodey]

This will suck unless Vince comes back saying H has lost control.

[kittensXLI]

There you go! A surprise!

I'm so happy now. Funkman was ever so obvious, and now they change it up. Great stuff.

WOO WOO WOO Scott Stanford!

Brawl For All! Drew McIntyre!

DJ Jazzy Jeff tosses!

[Rodey]

Wow, worst Raw ending ever.

[JRS1386]

That push on the cart on the end was so weak. I wonder if there was expensive equipment on it

[Speilmen230]

wow, i was extremely impressed with that. great ending. had a cool feel to it and it leaves you with A LOT of questions for next week.

[kittensXLI]

Wow, worst Raw ending ever.
http://oi55.tinypic.com/11u7wc8.jpg

[justinandimcool]

a curveball cliffhanger, the whole roster on camera, Trips/Laryngitis storyline furthered in an interesting way. Don't see how it's a bad ending. In fact I think it's the most interesting ending they've had since Punk's shoot. Would you rather have had him just fire Laryngitis and have the angle over with?

[kittensXLI]

I truly love that Zack Ryder trends worldwide on Twitter every Monday night.

[JRS1386]

So you think Laurinitis hires back Truth/Miz behind HHH's back?

[kittensXLI]

Rodey you're nuts. They did something different and unsuspecting with the ending, and executing it very well. Tonight was a win.

[JRS1386]

Or worse, new NWO forms with Nash/Truth/Miz

[K3nTaKa0s]

Or worse, new NWO forms with Nash/Truth/Miz

Ding, ding, ding.

[kittensXLI]

Or worse, new NWO forms with Nash/Truth/Miz
They've already been doing that in the minor leagues for months and months and months now.

Heck. With other OG NWO guys too!

[justinandimcool]

Using the Mark Henry booking as a ray of hope, maybe they'll book Zolph's eventual title reign right. Get him another year of character development with Vickie's stable, get in some great feuds and a few 4 or 5 star matches here and there. Then main event him. Then the strap, without the briefcase garbage. Give him a nice long heel reign. That's wishful thinking though.

[kittensXLI]

ZackRyder Zack Ryder
I won again on RAW...thanks to my new Broski @RealHughJackman. WWWYKI. www.yfrog.com/ntbl9sfj
4 minutes ago

[ant_marching41]

Really liked Raw tonight. Loved the ending.

[Rodey]

Rodey you're nuts. They did something different and unsuspecting with the ending, and executing it very well. Tonight was a win.

I don't know, it just doesn't make any sense. If it doesn't set up some sort of "Triple H losing control" angle, I don't know how it'd work.

[AndySlash]

did anyone else lol at $250,000 for a fine?

[kittensXLI]

did anyone else lol at $250,000 for a fine?
:lol:thumbsup

[Nick11dx]

did anyone else lol at $250,000 for a fine?

my thought process behind that was what it would be equivalent if a ufc fighter had done thought.

The 'E trying to be more real

[BotheDMBFan]

No they wouldn't. They'd pick someone else and push him to the moon.

No one else has the charisma he does. Honestly. He fits their superman want to a tee.

[Rodey]

Ryder is so going over. Next US Champ!

[Crush086]

Henry's mean streak is solid. I hope he becomes the real piece of shit heel that assaults people backstage and does whatever the hell he wants. Annihilating Lawler was solid.

[Rodey]

Henry's mean streak is solid. I hope he becomes the real piece of shit heel that assaults people backstage and does whatever the hell he wants. Annihilating Lawler was solid.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

[BotheDMBFan]

I have no complaints about Raw last night, aside from the Bitches match lasting too long. Other than that, amazingness. I've been a Jackman fan for a long time, I'm way the hell even more of one now. When he went out to the crowd to get the sign, I died.

...I also wouldn't be shocked if he had never seen wrestling before. Ever. That punch was stiff as fuck.

[BotheDMBFan]

Anyone else feeling a Swagger face turn, while having a heel manager in Vicky? I would LOVE to see that play out.

[Rodey]

Anyone else feeling a Swagger face turn, while having a heel manager in Vicky? I would LOVE to see that play out.

I can't picture Swagger as a face but I'm sure it could work. Wouldn't mind them trying it out since he seems to be stuck right now.

[kittensXLI]

Swags could definitely turn face.

[BotheDMBFan]

After last night, it really looked like they were pushing him towards it. The crowd was digging him, too.

[BotheDMBFan]

http://www.notsam.com/news/sam-talks-to-zack-ryder-on-after-oa

Enjoy. Bitches.

[kittensXLI]

http://www.notsam.com/news/sam-talks-to-zack-ryder-on-after-oa

Enjoy. Bitches.
Great job broski.

[Rodey]

*Ziggler kicks out*

ARE YOU SERIOUS BRO?!

[BotheDMBFan]

Seriously, I am going to see Real Steal when it comes out. For real.

[AndySlash]

my thought process behind that was what it would be equivalent if a ufc fighter had done thought.

The 'E trying to be more real

were those fines "real" they'd be among the top fines EVER levied in sports.

it's ok to be "real". it's laughable if they they thought 250k was being real.

the best part is at least half that locker room doesn't even make that much. i certainly doubt r-truth does.

[BotheDMBFan]

Truth makes paper. Lots of paper.

[kittensXLI]

Moore County Deputies Arrest Matt Hardy on Drug Charges
As of Tuesday, September 20, 2011

Matt Hardy is facing drug charges after deputies searched a residence on Boys Camp Road in Cameron and seized drugs, including anabolic steroids, according to a release from the sheriff's office.

A former professional wrestler, Hardy, 36, of Cameron, was charged with possession with intent to sell/deliver schedule III controlled substance (anabolic steroids), possession of schedule I controlled substance (Ecstasy), maintain a place to keep controlled substance and possession of drug paraphernalia.

On Sept. 14, officers conducted the search and seized 20 vials of anabolic steroids, one dosage unit of ecstasy, drug paraphernalia and $1,900 cash, according to the release.

Hardy was release on a written note to appear. His first court appearance is set for Sept. 29.source : http://www.thepilot.com/news/2011/sep/20/moore-county-deputies-arrest-matt-hardy-drug-charg/

Hopefully he isn't wasting WWE's time and money and efforts, and takes their assistance with rehab seriously.

[AndySlash]

well i hope he gets his shit together. the arrest news makes me a little skeptical that the rehab stint is more to appease the judge he'll be facing than his own well being, but even if that's the case i hope the 3 weeks of sobriety will be enough to help him see that he needs help.

[JRS1386]

That first hour (minus the ridic fines) was amazing last night. Love the crowd working the Ryder chants and Jackman getting the sign. Also, the HHH Punk start was solid

[JRS1386]

CMPunk CM Punk
@
@ZackRyder I've never been on your show but poor mans Peter Cushing has!?!?#areyouseriousbro ?! (it's a Van Helsing joke that you won't get)

[JRS1386]

Hogan going to get sued by a midget?

http://www.tmz.com/2011/09/20/hulk-hogan-half-pint-brawlers-rip-off-tru-tv-spike-lawsuit-micro-championship-wrestling/#.Tnj87NT1YnF

[K3nTaKa0s]

Former WWE and TNA star Matt Hardy was arrested again on Wednesday at his home in Cameron, N.C. Hardy was charged with possession with intent to sell/deliver a controlled substance, maintain a place to keep a controlled substance, and possession of drug paraphernalia. To read more on the story, visit ThePilot.com.

The Moore County Sheriff's office obtained a warrant to search his home and seized 20 vials of steroids, one dose of Ecstasy, and drug paraphernalia. Hardy was arrested in August and September on DUI charges. He announced on on Monday that he intends to enter a WWE sponsored rehab program, which is clearly the best move he could make at this time.

Source: PW.net

[K3nTaKa0s]

WWE Raw on Monday, September 19 scored a 3.0 rating the night after the Night of Champions PPV to rebound from one of the lowest ratings of the last 14 years last week.

Source: PWTorch

[kittensXLI]

Hogan going to get sued by a midget?

http://www.tmz.com/2011/09/20/hulk-hogan-half-pint-brawlers-rip-off-tru-tv-spike-lawsuit-micro-championship-wrestling/#.Tnj87NT1YnF
I didn't think he had any money left to get sued for.

[K3nTaKa0s]

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2011/09/meeting_of_tita.html

[K3nTaKa0s]

WWE U.S. champion Dolph Ziggler is claiming a "hairline mandibular fracture" after taking a punch to the mouth from Raw guest star Hugh Jackman on Monday's Raw. "Getting a special mouth guard tomorrow, so I will NOT miss any WWE live events!" Ziggler said on Twitter Tuesday.

Source: PWTorch

[K3nTaKa0s]

Fans have been sending in reports that are attending tonights SmackDown tapings in Dayton, Ohio. According to them the entire side of the arena that the WWE cameras are shooting from is completely cut off. All of the fans are sitting on the side opposite of the camera. It was just two weeks ago when Smackdown was taping in Toledo, Ohio and the attendance situation was similar.

Credit: WrestleZone

[waterboy100]

WWE U.S. champion Dolph Ziggler is claiming a "hairline mandibular fracture" after taking a punch to the mouth from Raw guest star Hugh Jackman on Monday's Raw. "Getting a special mouth guard tomorrow, so I will NOT miss any WWE live events!" Ziggler said on Twitter Tuesday.

Source: PWTorch

it was a super stiff looking shot but....

[CrashDMB237]

Fans have been sending in reports that are attending tonights SmackDown tapings in Dayton, Ohio. According to them the entire side of the arena that the WWE cameras are shooting from is completely cut off. All of the fans are sitting on the side opposite of the camera. It was just two weeks ago when Smackdown was taping in Toledo, Ohio and the attendance situation was similar.

Credit: WrestleZone

The only problem with this is that WWE cameras shoot both sides of the arena. Three of the cameras on the ground shot the entire arena. One of them is pointed permanently at the opposite side of the arena too.

[Rodey]

Fans have been sending in reports that are attending tonights SmackDown tapings in Dayton, Ohio. According to them the entire side of the arena that the WWE cameras are shooting from is completely cut off. All of the fans are sitting on the side opposite of the camera. It was just two weeks ago when Smackdown was taping in Toledo, Ohio and the attendance situation was similar.

Credit: WrestleZone

Fuckin' Ohio

[K3nTaKa0s]

Vince McMahon was not a happy man at Monday's WWE Raw show. He blew up backstage after his name was mentioned by Alberto Del Rio on the air. The assumption is that McMahon got upset because he is returning to television soon, and did not want his name mentioned. Del Rio and the writer involved in the segment both received earfuls from Vince, who remained temperamental the remainder of the night

Powell's POV: Stephanie McMahon was at the show on Monday and even she failed to get Vince to break out of this mood. More than one person within the company noted that he was yelling at people throughout the night and made life miserable for those around him.

Source: PW.net

[Rodey]

Did I miss something? I don't remember ADR saying anything about Vince.

[JRS1386]

He said he wished Vince was still in charge or something to that extent

[bartender_man]

Vince McMahon was not a happy man at Monday's WWE Raw show. He blew up backstage after his name was mentioned by Alberto Del Rio on the air. The assumption is that McMahon got upset because he is returning to television soon, and did not want his name mentioned. Del Rio and the writer involved in the segment both received earfuls from Vince, who remained temperamental the remainder of the night

Powell's POV: Stephanie McMahon was at the show on Monday and even she failed to get Vince to break out of this mood. More than one person within the company noted that he was yelling at people throughout the night and made life miserable for those around him.

Source: PW.net

That is interesting news. And Vince coming back to T.V? wonder in what capacity..

[K3nTaKa0s]

Last Nitro in the loop on thestr0. Saddest day in the history of our sport.

[JacobLovesYou]

Is Vince behind the conspiracy?

[jaking1185]

Last Nitro in the loop on thestr0. Saddest day in the history of our sport.

I have to agree.

[BotheDMBFan]

Did I miss something? I don't remember ADR saying anything about Vince.

I wonder if ADR will get a $250,000 fine out of this...

[Rodey]

I wonder if ADR will get a $250,000 fine out of this...

:lol:thumbsup

[BotheDMBFan]

I'm psyched for Hulk Hogan doing voice work on China, IL.

[Rodey]

I'm psyched for Episode 32.

[crush0617]

did anyone else read the spoilers for the 10/6 showing of impact wrestling "hulk hogans" last night with the company....

[BotheDMBFan]

Mr. America!!!!

[K3nTaKa0s]

It's very nice to see that the live Impacts are out-drawing Smackdown.

[BotheDMBFan]

Smackdown! needs to get off Syfy. Although, what happens tomorrow may drum up some bidness.

[Rodey]

Smackdown! needs to get off Syfy. Although, what happens tomorrow may drum up some bidness.

SyFy us a death sentence for Smackdown. The only reason it's on there is because NBC owns both USA and SyFy. Either move SD to USA or let another network bid on it.

[Speilmen230]

mynetworktv or syfy?

both seem like a death sentence to me.

[BotheDMBFan]

Both are terrible.

[Speilmen230]

CW or Spike?

[BotheDMBFan]

Why either? Both networks are terrible.

[Speilmen230]

because those were two past networks WWE used.

USA IMO is the best network for Wrestling. You certainly aren't going to put it on TNT, TBS, Comedy Central, MTV, FX, BET, VH1, Tru TV, or Discovery.

[BotheDMBFan]

MTV would actually probably be better.

[Rodey]

They need to just put Smackdown on USA, on a Thursday, live. It would do as good as Raw with the way things are going right now.

[Speilmen230]

i think they like the taped aspect though because it enable them to edit out crappy stuff. Half the reason why smackdown's episodes are so good are because they are taped and edited.

[BotheDMBFan]

Put SD! on NBC, lol.

[hbktonyb]

If they would just make SmackDown live I would watch it every week.

[Rodey]

i think they like the taped aspect though because it enable them to edit out crappy stuff. Half the reason why smackdown's episodes are so good are because they are taped and edited.

I don't agree with this statement.

[hbktonyb]

Episode 32! WWWYKI

http://www.youtube.com/longislandicedz

[BotheDMBFan]

HUGH!

I hart Hugh Jackman!

[BotheDMBFan]

Best one ever.

[Rodey]

About time! I was about to say are you serious bro?!

[Crush086]

Smackdown spoiler, although I'm not sure that it will be shown. Regarding Cody Rhodes.

Now I don't watch SD regularly, but I know Cody Rhodes has his whole facemask thing. But there's a pic I saw where he's busted open completely, whole face Ric Flair style over the Smackdown table. There's a ring bell on the ground, and an absolute ton of blood on the mat too. It's pretty gruesome, and is very reminiscent of the Attitude blood everywhere, and even some recent TNA stuff, and given their rating I don't honestly see how they'll even televise it. I mean, it's a whole lot of blood. I would think if something like that happened it would've been a major mistake given it's WWE, but the pic also has Twitter.com/DREAMXSTREET16 on it, which I'd guess is Cody's twitter, but I'm not sure it's a legit photo.

[hbktonyb]

Best one ever.

I was dying laughing over the fridge full of limes.

[hbktonyb]

Regarding smackdown:

I think they will censor the blood

[JacobLovesYou]

Hopefully they don't censor all of it, it Sounds like a great story element

[Speilmen230]

Probably go to black and white like they did back in the day.

[JRS1386]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/861986-wwe-smackdown-spoilers-the-bloody-pictures-of-cody-rhodes

[K3nTaKa0s]

http://youtu.be/DTN89mc-iTI

[Rodey]

Best ZTLIS ever! No "Ask The Heel" :lol

[Speilmen230]

OMG! Top 50 is on Instant Watch. WWWYKI!

[Speilmen230]

wow, this DVD is terrible.

It is like they edited it all together in about an hour.

[Speilmen230]

jesus this whole thing fucking sucks...

The entire thing is in Kayfabe.

[Rodey]

Holy shit there is blood all over the announce table. :lol

[hbktonyb]

That sucks broski. I was looking forward to that one.

[Rodey]

It looked like someone off camera tossed Cody a towel after the bell shot. He tried mopping up a bit and the cameras never showed a close-up but there was blood all over Orton, Cody, and the announce table.

[Rodey]

Where the hell is Kittens? He hasn't posted in here in like 3 days.

[hbktonyb]

Holy shit this really is terrible. Was expecting way more from OMG 50.

[Speilmen230]

Holy shit this really is terrible. Was expecting way more from OMG 50.

Told you. VH1 could have done a better countdown.

[JRS1386]

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7000826/wwe-conspiracy-theories

[hbktonyb]

Told you. VH1 could have done a better countdown.

How annoying is that fucking OMG song after every one. Those are some great moments too, they should have made this one way better.

[BotheDMBFan]

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/242526-report-wwe-no-longer-showing-superstars-online

Fucking. Weak.

[JRS1386]

How stupid are they? Even if the costs are low there will still be streams online (I assume) so they are losing money in ads from the people who watch it.

[BotheDMBFan]

Anyone else not miss Edge, at all?

[JRS1386]

I think Smackdown is missing him a lot. Especially with how low attendance is.

[BotheDMBFan]

I've never seen Edge as a draw.

[JRS1386]

I don't know, but anything would be an improvement over the draw they are getting now. I really think the separate brands should end for several reasons, and poor smackdown attendance is one

[Rodey]

I thought I'd miss Edge more than I do.

Really, I haven't been bothered by his departure.

[BotheDMBFan]

He was a good wrestler, no doubt. I'd prefer him back, but I don't really miss him...at all.

[JRS1386]

It would be awesome to have seen another TLC match with E&C vs The Hardy's but not possible any more with Christian being the only one in wrestling condition.

[BotheDMBFan]

TLC matches are pointless.

[Speilmen230]

TLC made sense with EC/Hardyz/Dudley's

It no longer makes any sense. Just like Hell in a Cell.

Money in the Bank is the best themed PPV they have. Especially after this years.

[K3nTaKa0s]

WWE has updated their Key Performance Indicators with the preliminary buyrate information for SummerSlam. According to the company, the preliminary buyrate is 301,000 buys, almost 50,000 below the 2010 buyrate. The estimated buyrate is 174,000 in North America and 127,000 from International markets.

By comparison, the show drew 350,000 buys in 2010 and 369,000 buys in 2009.

[Speilmen230]

i blame the PPV buys going down to the economy and the price of PPV's.

[jackisback24]

i blame the PPV buys going down to the economy and the price of PPV's.
coupled with piracy, yes. Justin TV prob costs them 3,000 - 5,000 buys alone.

[Speilmen230]

justin tv gets shut down all time.


but i get what you mean.

[K3nTaKa0s]

The WWE Superstars online show has been cancelled, according to Mike Johnson of PWInsider.com. The show will continue to air overseas, but it will no longer be shown on the WWE website or uploaded to Youtube.

Source: PW.net

[jaking1185]

Man, HHH loves to hog the spotlight.

[Rodey]

OMG BROSKIS! Ryder with a title shot!!!

[BotheDMBFan]

This is going to be a great Raw. That match was awesome.

[JacobLovesYou]

If HHH wants to hog the spotlight so much then he needs to heel

[BotheDMBFan]

i blame the PPV buys going down to the economy and the price of PPV's.

And England getting them for free with Sky Sports 4.

[justinandimcool]

awesome battle royal was awesome. Good opening segment was good. Nice to see Dolph on the mic. Cody and Christian made it even better. It's nice to see Christian get the upper hand on Sheamus for once. He's been turning into Super Sheamus lately, tonight was a good sign.

[Rodey]

:lol:lol

Cole: "And with all due respect, he's also suffering from anal bleeding."

Booker: "What? Wow."

[GrooGrux420]

Sadly tonight MNF takes precedence along with recording CBS's Monday night line-up (I got veto'd :(). I'll have to wait until Saturday to record it (replay on NBCHD) or watching it on JTV. :shrug

[jaking1185]

Sadly tonight MNF takes precedence along with recording CBS's Monday night line-up (I got veto'd :(). I'll have to wait until Saturday to record it (replay on NBCHD) or watching it on JTV. :shrug

I agree. Only spot checking in on Raw. Real sports take precedent, even a less than stellar MNF game.

[GrooGrux420]

I agree. Only spot checking in on Raw. Real sports take precedent, even a less than stellar MNF game.
Normally I wouldn't mind spot checking, but I think the programming as of late warrants a "true" viewing and not in minute or so intervals.

[K3nTaKa0s]

If HHH wants to hog the spotlight so much then he needs to heel

He made the heels look like retards. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

[justinandimcool]

from divas match to Henry/Khali to this bad promo, I've changed the channel a lot this half hour. MNF isn't that great either :lol

[justinandimcool]

ADR and Punk on commentary holy crap this just got better

[Richard Belding]

ADR and Punk on commentary holy crap this just got better

I look like a clown? You're half naked.

[justinandimcool]

my diet soda!!!!!

[justinandimcool]

WUT da HALE!

[justinandimcool]

a tag team match playa! :lol :lol :lol

[JRS1386]

I just tuned in at the start of the Ryder match, this is awesome. I will have to catch the beginning tomorrow

[BotheDMBFan]

That went from amazing, to shit, to awesome, to amazing, to ZACK RYDER WON ON RAW!

[JRS1386]

Wow Mason Ryan face turn? Vickie can turn anyone. Did Ryan say Woo Woo Woo to Ryder when he was leaving or was I hearing things?

[justinandimcool]

WUT DA HALE!

lol at Cole- "maybe he's confused"

[justinandimcool]

holy unnecessary pay per view Batman. I can't believe that's this weekend already.

[BotheDMBFan]

I love Otunga.

[Richard Belding]

I love Otunga.

I really like the Harvard Law School grad character they're doing with him. Like a lot.

[JRS1386]

Cena on commentary oh god

[BotheDMBFan]

Otunga is from Elgin, Illinois. My former home. Love that man.

[JRS1386]

For those keeping score at home; Mason Ryan : 1 Wellness Policy : 0 #RAWTonight

[K3nTaKa0s]

Smackdown on Friday drew a surprising 2.3 rating, an all-time high for Syfy. It's the second-highest rated show in Syfy history, actually.

Source: PWTorch

[JRS1386]

awesome ending is awesome

[JacobLovesYou]

Mason Ryan was roided as all get out. I thought tonight's RAW was pretty good.

[Rodey]

Man, Del Rio is so fucking awesome!

[hbktonyb]

I haven't seen a dude that much roided up since old school Big Poppa Pump.

[jackisback24]

I really like the Harvard Law School grad character they're doing with him. Like a lot.


Nowitzski > Otunga.

[AndySlash]

WWE has updated their Key Performance Indicators with the preliminary buyrate information for SummerSlam. According to the company, the preliminary buyrate is 301,000 buys, almost 50,000 below the 2010 buyrate. The estimated buyrate is 174,000 in North America and 127,000 from International markets.

By comparison, the show drew 350,000 buys in 2010 and 369,000 buys in 2009.

i blame the PPV buys going down to the economy and the price of PPV's.


i blame it on shotgunning the hottest angle in some time.

[Rodey]

I think Otunga's lawyer gimmick could actually work if they go full out with it. Like, he needs to separate from McGillicutty and go all out lawyer. Dressing nice, etc.

[justinandimcool]

:lol Booker's reaction to Cole saying "anal bleeding"

[Rodey]

:lol Booker's reaction to Cole saying "anal bleeding"

:lol:lol:thumbsup

Yes, that was awesome.

"What?! Wow."

[hbktonyb]

I love Kiiinnngggg Booookahhhhh announcing.

[Rodey]

Why has Kittens not posted here in like.... over a week?

[BotheDMBFan]

Because he's on his period.

[Rodey]

He's totally not a broski anymore.

[BotheDMBFan]

Absolutely not.

[Speilmen230]

Just sat down to watch Raw. The piano during the apology package was pretty cheesy. I like this reality angle. It feels like the NFL or the UFC.

Ziggler REALLY doesn't need Vickie. She needs to move on. Dolph's Heel persona is really fucking good. His mic skills are awesome.

Cody Rhodes' persona is also really fucking good too. It is really creepy.

Christian is the weak link here. His whiny bitch persona is old and comes off really weak.

[Speilmen230]

I ABSOLUTELY love the air-time for the mid-card titles.

IC and US need to be built back up.

[Speilmen230]

jesus John Morrison has fell off the face of the planet when it comes to WWE.

[Speilmen230]

that battle royal was sloppy as hell. They generally aren't great matches but that was pretty rough.

[BotheDMBFan]

The Battle Royal was great. You continually show yourself to know nothing.

[Speilmen230]

:lol :lol :lol

ANAL BLEEDING!

:lol :lol :lol

[Speilmen230]

Otunga's cheesy geeky voice finally fits. That lawyer gimmick is actually kinda cool.

[Speilmen230]

Fast-forwarded through the Divas and Henry's match. Didn't seem like they were worth my time.


John SUUUUUPER-Cena.

[Speilmen230]

..thanks for the overzealous re-cap john... Ugh.

I really want his low serious voice back.

[Speilmen230]

He is SOOOO bad. I really don't understand what kid's like about him.

[Speilmen230]

I can't wait for this trainwreck. :lol

[Speilmen230]

MY DIET SODA!!!

Vintage Punk.

[Rodey]

jesus John Morrison has fell off the face of the planet when it comes to WWE.

Oddly enough, this doesn't bother me. Though, I think he'd be better suited on Smackdown anyway. His mic skills are atrocious.

Ryder for US Champ!

[Speilmen230]

this all feels soo rushed. I wish this could have gotten a solid 4 week build. A triple threat with ADR/Cena/Punk is a damn good main event but it just feels really weak because of the short build its got.

[Speilmen230]

Oddly enough, this doesn't bother me. Though, I think he'd be better suited on Smackdown anyway. His mic skills are atrocious.

Ryder for US Champ!

SD! could use him. I would love him as the anchor for the IC division.

[Rodey]

this all feels soo rushed. I wish this could have gotten a solid 4 week build. A triple threat with ADR/Cena/Punk is a damn good main event but it just feels really weak because of the short build its got.

I agree, but I feel like they did the best they could. Having HIAC two weeks after NOC is just silly but there's nothing we can do about it really.

[Speilmen230]

there is absolutely no need at all for 13 PPV's in a calendar year. Way too many.

[Speilmen230]

Otunga is awesome. :lol

I could get on board with him in a non-wrestling role.

[JRS1386]

Just sat down to watch Raw. The piano during the apology package was pretty cheesy. I like this reality angle. It feels like the NFL or the UFC.

Ziggler REALLY doesn't need Vickie. She needs to move on. Dolph's Heel persona is really fucking good. His mic skills are awesome.

Cody Rhodes' persona is also really fucking good too. It is really creepy.

Christian is the weak link here. His whiny bitch persona is old and comes off really weak.

Christian does so well with what Creative gives him. He is a great worker in the ring and on the mic. He should have never been a heel to begin with. Orton would have been the better heel.

jesus John Morrison has fell off the face of the planet when it comes to WWE.

He needs a heel turn

that battle royal was sloppy as hell. They generally aren't great matches but that was pretty rough.

The rumble was actually really awesome for several reasons.

1) It got plenty of talent some work
2) It was not drawn out
3) It had three different storylines involved and extended with the Sin Caras, Rhodes/Dibiase and Christian/Shaemus
4) Rhodes didn't drop the belt

this all feels soo rushed. I wish this could have gotten a solid 4 week build. A triple threat with ADR/Cena/Punk is a damn good main event but it just feels really weak because of the short build its got.

With these three I don't think it really matters how rushed it is. The match will be stellar and there are so many ways it can go. I am excited

[Rodey]

Otunga is awesome. :lol

I could get on board with him in a non-wrestling role.

Why non-wrestling role?

He's not that bad in the ring.

[K3nTaKa0s]

WWE Raw on Monday, September 26 scored a 2.92 rating, slipping below the fall season water level of a 3.00 rating last week.

Raw averaged 4.15 million viewers, down four percent from 4.33 million viewers last week. Raw's first hour averaged 4.17 million viewers and the second hour declined to 4.13 million viewers.

Source: PWTorch

[Speilmen230]

Why non-wrestling role?

He's not that bad in the ring.

Just think of him walking around in a suit and tie with a briefcase of some sort issuing out grievances to wrestlers or dealing with management to 're-structure' contracts. He could be a manager/Agent/Lawyer type character. I think it would be hilarious.

[Speilmen230]

Didn't get to catch NoC, so i torrented it. Will be watching sometime tomorrow.

[drmstrack]

[QUOTE=JRS1386;12972990]Christian does so well with what Creative gives him. He is a great worker in the ring and on the mic. He should have never been a heel to begin with. Orton would have been the better heel.QUOTE]

I agree Christian does great with what he is given and is the BEST WORKER in WWE right now. Put him in there with a spoon and he'll have a great match. I actually prefer him heel right now(it doesnt matter he gets huge pops every week wwe just does editing to take it out. reports from live audiences have confirmed this)

that being said...

Thought this place would be the appropriate place to share this...most of my covers are DMB but this one I think you guys will be familiar with...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS1aX8DdOcI

[BotheDMBFan]

[QUOTE=JRS1386;12972990]Christian does so well with what Creative gives him. He is a great worker in the ring and on the mic. He should have never been a heel to begin with. Orton would have been the better heel.QUOTE]

I agree Christian does great with what he is given and is the BEST WORKER in WWE right now. Put him in there with a spoon and he'll have a great match. I actually prefer him heel right now(it doesnt matter he gets huge pops every week wwe just does editing to take it out. reports from live audiences have confirmed this)

that being said...

Thought this place would be the appropriate place to share this...most of my covers are DMB but this one I think you guys will be familiar with...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS1aX8DdOcI

Christian is fucking boring. He's a good wrestler, but I wouldn't put him top 5 in the ring. Top 10, sure, but not top 5.

[Rodey]

Christian is fucking boring. He's a good wrestler, but I wouldn't put him top 5 in the ring. Top 10, sure, but not top 5.

Says the Orton fan. :lol

[Speilmen230]

[QUOTE=drmstrack;12975476]

Christian is fucking boring. He's a good wrestler, but I wouldn't put him top 5 in the ring. Top 10, sure, but not top 5.

Christian can have a good match with just about anyone, but i don't think he is the BEST worker in the company. Punker and Orton are the two best. I am really starting to appreciate Orton's ability to make guys look really good.

[jackisback24]

Does Punk get involved in the Cena and Rock storyline in the next 6 months?

[Speilmen230]

I don't think so. Unless of course he is on a crusade to keep the title out of their match.

[BotheDMBFan]

Says the Orton fan. :lol

Orton is starting to get stale as fuck. His matches are still tops, though. I hope he really devlops this psycho gimmick though.

Christian has always been boring, though. There's a reason why he was never a top guy in the E, until his Biffles freak-retired.

[BotheDMBFan]

I don't think so. Unless of course he is on a crusade to keep the title out of their match.

Well then, I guess he just has to win the belt Sunday then...huh?

I really don't see Cenar winning this Sunday.

[Speilmen230]

Knowing the E I could see him winning and then rolling all the way to mania. It would make it a two week run for Cena. No way they take the title off him that quick. Especially since he is now a 10 time wwe champ.

[hbktonyb]

Zack Ryder states during an interview published in the November 2011 issue of WWE Magazine that he would prefer to end his YouTube show, Z! True Long Island Story, once he secures a comfortable position on WWE programming.

When asked if he's concerned with viewers getting tired of the show, Ryder replied, "Well, I'm tired of it already, so it wouldn't surprise me if some viewers get tired of it soon. Honestly, I can only do this show for so long before the charm kinda wears off. Once I get to where I want to be on TV, then there will be no need for the show, and that's a good thing." Also in the WWE Magazine interview, Ryder said he decided to start the show to get himself noticed, which he knew would "either work or get me fired."

[jackisback24]

Honky, was Reba Sky on Stern?

[hbktonyb]

^Yes, I think she was.

[BotheDMBFan]

Zack Ryder states during an interview published in the November 2011 issue of WWE Magazine that he would prefer to end his YouTube show, Z! True Long Island Story, once he secures a comfortable position on WWE programming.

When asked if he's concerned with viewers getting tired of the show, Ryder replied, "Well, I'm tired of it already, so it wouldn't surprise me if some viewers get tired of it soon. Honestly, I can only do this show for so long before the charm kinda wears off. Once I get to where I want to be on TV, then there will be no need for the show, and that's a good thing." Also in the WWE Magazine interview, Ryder said he decided to start the show to get himself noticed, which he knew would "either work or get me fired."

I honestly don't now how good of an idea that is.

[JRS1386]

I wonder how many of his fans would drop him if he dropped Z!TLIS. The only way I see it working is the WWE is serious about Ryder and give him a substantial push as a heel

[BotheDMBFan]

I wonder how many of his fans would drop him if he dropped Z!TLIS. The only way I see it working is the WWE is serious about Ryder and give him a substantial push as a heel

Or face. They'd have to keep it up to some degree. He'd still have to do a broski of the week thing at shows, get him the kid vote and such.

[JRS1386]

I really don't see him (and by him read the WWE letting him) do a thing on the air like this.

[BotheDMBFan]

I really don't see him (and by him read the WWE letting him) do a thing on the air like this.

Him doing a little thing for kids every week would play. Him picking a kid out of the crowd during a commercial break, and then selecting said kid as Broski of the Week would get him MASSIVE face appeal.

[JRS1386]

I hope you are right, I just don't trust the WWE. I can see them letting him flop if he drops Z! because he isn't traditional.

[Speilmen230]

IMO he really needs to get into a serious feud with Ziggler and become a real contender vs the 'joke' competitor he is now. Currently he is the Perry Saturn or the Al Snow of this generation.