Pro Wrestling is FAKE!?!

[ProudestAnt]

Who won it?

[K3nTaKa0s]

Randy Orton, baby!

[kittensXLI]

Well, at least I was right about one thing. I picked HHH to win, but I guaranteed he'd be in the final two.

[justinandimcool]

1 Rey Mysterio
2 John Morrison
3 Carlito
4 MVP
5 The Great Khali
6 Vladimir Kozlov
7 Triple H
8 Randy Orton
9 JTG
10 Ted DiBiase, Jr.
11 Chris Jericho
12 Mike Knox
13 The Miz
14 Finlay
15 Cody Rhodes
16 Undertaker
17 Goldust
18 CM Punk
19 Mark Henry
20 Shelton Benjamin
21 William Regal
22 Kofi Kingston
23 Kane
24 R-Truth
25 Rob Van Dam
26 The Brian Kendrick
27 Dolph Ziggler
28 Santino
29 Hacksaw Jim Duggan
30 Big Show

Eliminations:

Khali (by Koslov)
MVP (by Koslov)
Carlito (by Koslov)
Koslov (by HHH)
Miz (by HHH)
Morrison (by HHH)
JTG (by Taker)
Goldust (by Cody)
Henry (by Mysterio)
Benjamin (by Taker)
Regal (by CM Punk)
Kingston (by Kendrick)
Kendrick (by HHH)
Ziggler (by Kane)
Santino (by Kane)
Duggan (by Show)
R-Truth (by Show)
CM Punk (by Show)
Knox (by Finlay)
Mysterio (by Finlay)
Finlay (by Kane)
RVD (by Jericho)
Jericho (by Taker)
Kane (by Orton/DiBiase/Rhodes)
Big Show (by Taker)
Taker (by Show)
DiBiase (by HHH)
Rhodes (by HHH)
HHH (by Orton)

Winner: Randy Orton



For someone who doesn't watch WWE on television anymore, this was well worth the two and a half hours.


Matt vs Jeff vs Edge TLC for the title at Wrestlemania anyone? Or just Matt vs Jeff, that would be cool too.

And I guess they're going Orton vs Cena. Meh.

[ant_marching41]

There should have been a 1-on-1 for the win. Lame ending.

[Crush086]

I knew Orton would win. After kicking McMahon, I knew there'd be no way he gets fired. Then winning the rumble would mean he would have to stick around till at least WM25.

I told my dad that he'd win, but McMahon will make it a triple threat or something to lessen Orton's chances of taking it or something. I don't think it'll stay Orton vs. Cena (whom I wouldn't mind seeing lose before WM).

[DMBfan41]

There should have been a 1-on-1 for the win. Lame ending.

agreed, that ending was lame. And I had the feeling that's how it was gonna end when it was the final four.

[justinandimcool]

I knew Orton would win. After kicking McMahon, I knew there'd be no way he gets fired. Then winning the rumble would mean he would have to stick around till at least WM25.

I told my dad that he'd win, but McMahon will make it a triple threat or something to lessen Orton's chances of taking it or something. I don't think it'll stay Orton vs. Cena (whom I wouldn't mind seeing lose before WM).

Yeah. No way they'd have Orton win at WM two years in a row. Orton vs Cena would be way too predictable going Cena's way.


I'm really excited to see where they're going with this Matt vs Jeff thing. I might just tune in.

[kittensXLI]

no Christian = no viewing by me

or better yet,

RVD = :thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow

[2steppinKJ]

Well I doubt Christian is coming back now, since everyone expected him to interfere in the Hardy/Edge match.

I thought it'd be him. Unexpected turn by Matt though. All in all, wasn't too bad, but would have liked to see HHH and Orton go at it one on one as well. But I'd say both big titles will change hands @ No Way Out.

[DmBand801]

disappointing rumble match....where was HBK, Kennedy, Umaga and fucking Christian?

I've been saying for weeks that Matt would turn on Jeff, losing the ECW title to Swagger last week all but sealed that for me.

[justinandimcool]

So apparently John Cena can't use the names "FU" and "STFU" for his finishers anymore, and DX can't say "Suck it!"?
What the fuck? When did this happen?

[kittensXLI]

????

[clcfball11]

Goldberg, ftw

[comerelaxnow]

I was waiting for christian too. I guessed Orton would win. How can you have Shawn Michaels at the rumble and not in a title match or the royal rumble? The michaels jbl story line is stupid. Hacksaw kicked some ass though. That was cool. Not as cool as Santino breaking the record for being in the rumble for 1 second.

And whoever said Cody Rhodes isn't Dustys kid is wrong. He is 100% dustys kid

[ant_marching41]

What's this about Christian coming back? I haven't watched wresting in a long time other than last night.

[comerelaxnow]

What's this about Christian coming back? I haven't watched wresting in a long time other than last night.

It was a rumor that he was coming back at the rumble. Christain has wanted out of his TNA contract for a while and wants badly to come back to WWE

[ant_marching41]

I didn't even realize that he was with TNA. Hmm.

[ant_marching41]

And how many "close calls" were there last night? Way overdone. It got blatantly obvious that no one was trying to eliminate anybody.

One of my favorite moments of the Rumble was Rey Mysterio stepping on two of the wrestler's backs to avoid elimination. :lol :thumbsup

[Styx Cover Band]

If you didn't see ROH signed a deal with HDNet to have an weekly hour long show

[comerelaxnow]

And how many "close calls" were there last night? Way overdone. It got blatantly obvious that no one was trying to eliminate anybody.

One of my favorite moments of the Rumble was Rey Mysterio stepping on two of the wrestler's backs to avoid elimination. :lol :thumbsup

I liked how Golddust was throwing Cody out like 4 times and not once did he hit the ground

[comerelaxnow]

Shane just kicked some ass!!!!

[kittensXLI]

Shane who? McMahon?

[comerelaxnow]

Shane who? McMahon?

Yup :thumbsup

[kittensXLI]

That's cool. Shane was always pretty good.

The best was the streetfight at King of the Ring versus Kurt Angle.

Or the match versus The Rock on Raw when Shane jumped off the turnbuckle through the announcers table on the outside of the ring.

[Crush086]

I thought Shane kicking Orton's ass was kind of weak for an ending. I could understand him whipping Rhodes and Dibiase's ass at once, but Randy's too?

I would've liked to see him start strong, then Orton lay him out to end it or something.

[hbktonyb]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Shane or Steph join Legacy...they are 2nd (3rd) generation stars as well.

So how's WM shaping up?

Orton vs. Cena?
Rourke vs. Jericho?
Matt vs. Jeff?
Edge vs. H?
Michaels vs. JBL?

Pretty weak if you ask me. What they really need is one of the 2 dream matches left in this business...Hogan vs. Austin or Rock vs. HBK.

[stayorleave83]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Shane or Steph join Legacy...they are 2nd (3rd) generation stars as well.

So how's WM shaping up?

Orton vs. Cena?
Rourke vs. Jericho?
Matt vs. Jeff?
Edge vs. H?
Michaels vs. JBL?

Pretty weak if you ask me. What they really need is one of the 2 dream matches left in this business...Hogan vs. Austin or Rock vs. HBK.

Apparently Austin is a sneeze away from permanently destroying his neck. But yeah Orton and Cena wouldn't be as good a match as HBK-Cena or HBK-Orton.

[Crush086]

Apparently Austin is a sneeze away from permanently destroying his neck. But yeah Orton and Cena wouldn't be as good a match as HBK-Cena or HBK-Orton.
I still think there'll be another person in the WM main event, maybe HBK or something.

I imagine the McMahons are going to give Legacy some crazy matches and stuff in the coming weeks, like Vince used to do with Austin. I think I remember one PPV (but it might not have been) where Austin was booked in a handicap match against Kane and The Undertaker. Those were good matches.

Or they'll put Legacy in some crazy triple tag match at No Way Out or something, with Shane somewhere in there, although I'm not sure how much more he can give being almost 40.

[hbktonyb]

I'd like to see the main events involving Jeff, HBK, Orton and Edge...And triple H. They are the best things going right now.

[2steppinKJ]

I was watching some of the the Best of Undertaker DVD set last night...in particular the hell in a cell matches vs HBK and Mankind (this one I hadn't seen for years, but I knew full well about the brutality that Foley allowed his body to be subjected to). Definitely 2 of the finest matches ever in wrestling history, with an intensity that I haven't seen in a WWE match for a fair while.

[keithcoldroses]

I haven't been that into pro wrestling since middle school, but I found this really funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLABau9kC14&feature=channel_page

THE NATION IS BACK!!!

[BotheDMBFan]

LOVED the DMB reference by Tazz last night.

[hbktonyb]

LOVED the DMB reference by Tazz last night.

What did he say, I missed it?

[BotheDMBFan]

"Celebrate we will! For life is short but sweet for certain!"

[devilandthelord]

So Mickey Rourke is really going to wrestle Jericho at Wrestlemania?

[BotheDMBFan]

Yep.

[kittensXLI]

I just watched the first ever Bloodbath Match, Edge versus Gangrel. So good.

[justinandimcool]

Christian returns on ECW tonight.

[comerelaxnow]

Awesome! I bet hes glad to be back

[K3nTaKa0s]

There will be a new WWE Title holder on Smackdown, as Edge was the first one eliminated from the Elimination Chamber by Jeff Hardy.

[2steppinKJ]

There will be a new WWE Title holder on Smackdown, as Edge was the first one eliminated from the Elimination Chamber by Jeff Hardy.

His title reigns are hot potatoes :lol It'll be HHH for sure from here.

[K3nTaKa0s]

Triple Haitch is the only one I like in this match.

[K3nTaKa0s]

It has come down to Triple Haitch vs. the Undertaker.

[K3nTaKa0s]

Triple Haitch is the new champion on Smackdown!!! WOOOOO!

[K3nTaKa0s]

Prior to the World Title Elimination Chamber Match, Edge beats up Kofi Kingston and enters himself into the match and wins the title. Yip freaking ee. I hate Edge. I hope I don't have to deal with watching him on Raw.

[justinandimcool]

I didn't see it, but :lol on Edge. One of the only reasons I tune in occasionally. 8 time world champion!

[2steppinKJ]

I didn't see it, but :lol on Edge. One of the only reasons I tune in occasionally. 8 time world champion!

I'd still reckon he won't hold onto it for much longer than a sneeze :lol

[comerelaxnow]

Rowdy Roddy Piper!!!!

[clayj41]

Good to see that Terry Funk is getting inducted into the Hall of Fame. He might be my all-time favorite wrestler.

[AFurth]

anyone see no way out last night?

yaaaaaa.....

[comerelaxnow]

i saw the jbl michaels match. good to see thats over. heres to michaels vs undertaker at WM25! i hope they don't make it a tripple threat with jbl

[AFurth]

i saw the jbl michaels match. good to see thats over. heres to michaels vs undertaker at WM25! i hope they don't make it a tripple threat with jbl

ya i thought undertaker got hosed... and triple h bugs the shit out of me.

and edge is a homo.

[turbo895]

It is so fake, i was watching last night and this one guy had clothes on and the other one had a speedo? man thong thing on and the guy in clothes takes the bell thing and hits him in the back of the head twice. Now im not a medical expert but wouldnt the guy that was hit have a concussion?

[Crush086]

It is so fake, i was watching last night and this one guy had clothes on and the other one had a speedo? man thong thing on and the guy in clothes takes the bell thing and hits him in the back of the head twice. Now im not a medical expert but wouldnt the guy that was hit have a concussion?
:lol

[AFurth]

It is so fake, i was watching last night and this one guy had clothes on and the other one had a speedo? man thong thing on and the guy in clothes takes the bell thing and hits him in the back of the head twice. Now im not a medical expert but wouldnt the guy that was hit have a concussion?

do you watch "the office" to learn how to run a paper company?

its entertainment, homes...

[devilandthelord]

Apparently Randy Orton is murdering the McMahon's one by one.
LAWLZ.

I actually watched last night for the first time in months.
I try to catch it a little bit around Wrestlemania. Other than that, not so much anymore.

[stayorleave83]

Apparently Randy Orton is murdering the McMahon's one by one.
LAWLZ.

I actually watched last night for the first time in months.
I try to catch it a little bit around Wrestlemania. Other than that, not so much anymore.

Same here. We usually all get together and watch the rumble and gamble on the winner. It's good to watch now and then. Last night's epsidoe seemed to be pretty strong.

[Crush086]

I'm pissed I missed it last night. It seemed good...

Orton reminds me of Austin kind of, the way he basically will attack anyone. It's good TV watching him whip the owners asses.

[hbktonyb]

Sooo, after tonight's raw. Show vs. Edge. H vs. Orton. They need a big time match.

Could we see a Cena vs. Hogan?????

[JTRocks]

Sooo, after tonight's raw. Show vs. Edge. H vs. Orton. They need a big time match.

Could we see a Cena vs. Hogan?????

those are the matches for wrestlemania? weak

[2steppinKJ]

those are the matches for wrestlemania? weak

Taker v HBK confirmed as well...

[comerelaxnow]

i do hear that Hogan is going to make an appearance at WM. Michaels vs Taker will be awesome and easily the highlight. Orton vs HHH will be gay. Big Show in the main event of mania will be interesting and i like Edge so that will be cool. I like the one on one matches. I hate when they do tripple threats at mania.

[cotton#36]

is Pro Wrestling fake......... does a wild bear shit in the woods

[hbktonyb]

We've seen orton vs. hhh a million times. Show vs. Edge? Blah...somehow Cena will make it into that match. The only match I am excited about is HBk vs. Taker...the only thing is that we know the outcome of the match. Taker won't let his streak end against another veteran who is going to retire soon, and it won't do anything for his career.

I'm not even excited with this jericho storyline. I guess that will end up w/ either Austin/Jericho or Hogan/Jericho.

[comerelaxnow]

Wait....when did MVP become a crowd favorite?

[keithcoldroses]

Since when is Coach on ESPN!?! haahha i was listening to sportscenter and i knew i recognized that voice. it was teh coachz!

[devilandthelord]

LOL, I saw that a few nights ago.
I was like "da coach!". LOL

[keithcoldroses]

Lol, he's actually not half bad at anchoring. I was impressed.

He's still a popcorn fart though

[devilandthelord]

Yeah he's really not, if he weren't in fact, da coach, beforehand.
I cracked up when I saw him on Sportscenter.
Same as last year when I heard him on a some broadcast for a college football game.

[BotheDMBFan]

Coach has been like, ironmaning it on Sportscenter for the past 24 hours.

[TheTallOne]

Randy Orton is a crazy mofo

[DmBand801]

stephanies hot

[hbktonyb]

I like the build of taker/hbk and cena/orton...still not enough to make me buy since i know the outcomes.

[comerelaxnow]

I like the build of taker/hbk and cena/orton...still not enough to make me buy since i know the outcomes.

Undertaker is in talks about retiring so i wouldn't be suprised if he loses to michaels. i have a feeling cenas going to win but i really hope show does

[TheTallOne]

After last night, though, I would not be suprised if Cena agrees to Edge's offer

[crush_me_16125]

anyone know where I can stream wrestlemania for free?

[comerelaxnow]

What do you guys think of WWE Superstars coming back on Thursdays? I was thinking at 1st that they were finally going to go up against TNA but turns out Vince is airing it at 11 am.

[crush0617]

they should not have a Thursday show... bad idea

[kittensXLI]

So that's, what, five weekly shows now? Six?

[Crush086]

Another day of wrestling?

I only watch it on Monday, because the rest don't interest me, so I doubt I'll catch (I can't anyways, because I'm at work).

[comerelaxnow]

So that's, what, five weekly shows now? Six?

Thats 4 now.

[kittensXLI]

Thats 4 now.
Entirely too many.

[comerelaxnow]

anyone watching the draft tonight?

so far MVP and Big Show are coming to Raw and Melina is on Smackdown

[TheTallOne]

I want Finlay to get moved. Won't happen, but I can wish.

Not a fan of the MVP move. That guy blows.

[comerelaxnow]

I want Finlay to get moved. Won't happen, but I can wish.

Not a fan of the MVP move. That guy blows.

yeah they should use Finley more

Tripple H is back on raw

[TheTallOne]

Need to get rid of Hornswaggle. I say move the duo up to Raw with Big Show and have him fall on Little Bastard. Problem solved.

[K3nTaKa0s]

Cena will be heading to Smackdown. Thank God. Hopefully Edge goes somewhere else, also. I need Orton to stay on Raw.

[hbktonyb]

Anyone see Josh Matthews' nose in the beginning of the show??

[TempHelpNeeded]

The showstoppah!

[2steppinKJ]

They should have drafted ECW to Smackdown...

[stayorleave83]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ1HXCd7NSo

[kittensXLI]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcikp7AcD-Y&NR=1

[comerelaxnow]

Brett Hart just signed a deal with WWE.

[kittensXLI]

Sources?

[Crush086]

Randy Orton won the title.

RKO to HHH, he kicked out, then got punted.

[comerelaxnow]

i forgot tonight was a pay per view

[Crush086]

Me too. All I caught was the last of that match and the Edge/Cena match. Edge won. Best parts of the match were:

Cena F-U'ing Edge into the crowd. He layed at least one person out. It looked totally unscripted.
Cena bulldogging Edge onto those big metal equipment bins from the crowd stairs.
Big Show interfered, and chokeslammed Cena through one of those huge stagelights. He burst both the outside glass and lightbulb, and set it on fire.

Other winners I remember:

Christian over Swagger
Matt Hardy said I Quit
Then Orton over HHH and this match.

[devilandthelord]

Just remembered Backlash was yesterday and checked the results, and I'm pretty happy with all of the major ones.
I'm happy whenever Cena is not champ, even though I don't like Edge as champ either.
Glad Randy Orton can be the heel champ, even though that opens up the possibility of Superman Cena coming to the rescue of Raw to win it back (Groan).
And I was most glad to see Christian become ECW champ over the insufferable Jack Swagger. I like Christian.

[kittensXLI]

Source(s) on the Bret Hart information???

[BotheDMBFan]

Jeff Hardy to retire in a couple months.

[kittensXLI]

You guys really need to get sources for these things.

[Crush086]

Just remembered Backlash was yesterday and checked the results, and I'm pretty happy with all of the major ones.
I'm happy whenever Cena is not champ, even though I don't like Edge as champ either.
Glad Randy Orton can be the heel champ, even though that opens up the possibility of Superman Cena coming to the rescue of Raw to win it back (Groan).
And I was most glad to see Christian become ECW champ over the insufferable Jack Swagger. I like Christian.
I was pleased with the results too. I thought HHH was going to keep his title again, and then the storyline was going to be lame. But since he was punted during the PPV, he may have a legitimate injury or something that he needs to be out of action for.
You guys really need to get sources for these things.
This is true. I've heard nothing about Bret Hart, and didn't even know he could still wrestle after having that stroke (I think it was).

[Pablo23]

This is true. I've heard nothing about Bret Hart, and didn't even know he could still wrestle after having that stroke (I think it was).

I call BS but in a recent interview he said he would forgive HBK if he called him & apologized for the Montreal incident. And then he would probably induct HBK into the Hall of Fame.

[justinandimcool]

Holy shit, I just checked the endings to the matches on Youtube, looked like a pretty sick PPV.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=BalazsthedonX&view=videos

[comerelaxnow]

Hey, ok i will get the sources to the Bret Hart thing but i forgot the name of the site that my brother always goes to. Once i get it i will post it. Its a cool site too. Goes real indepth into all the up to date news and spoliers and stuff. Bret signed a deal with WWE because he wants to write a book. Hopefully we will be seeing him out there promoting it and getting into some matches. He was cleared to wrestle back in 2006 so hes good to go. Its just a matter of if he is going to get past his ego and actually do it

[comerelaxnow]

The website is called www.wrestlezone.com

[jackisback24]

I just bought the Cornette/Midnight Express book. Heard good things.:thumbsup

[Doors Allan Coe]

www.powerandglorywrestling.com

check out my next show! Last show Hacksaw Jim Duggan won the title! This show Brutus Beekcake is coming to town!!

And finally this spring tour...WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[Doors Allan Coe]

just a reminder. vince mcmahon is the man

[ovationman240]

The Hardy Boys vs. The Dudley Boys vs. Edge and Christian......IN A TRIPLE THREAT TLC MATCH.

God damn those were the days.

[Crush086]

Edge and Jeff Hardy put on a pretty good match at Judgement Day.

It was one of Edge's better matches, since Jeff is way more agile than some of the recent people he's fought like John Cena and the Big Show.

[comerelaxnow]

The Hardy Boys vs. The Dudley Boys vs. Edge and Christian......IN A TRIPLE THREAT TLC MATCH.

God damn those were the days.


just saw that match again on Edges dvd. Insane!!

[jaking1185]

Mr. Kennedy released from WWE. Seems he hurt himself and almost hurt Randy Orton on Monday's RAW. Appears he's too reckless and undisciplined in the ring, and almost hurt their franchise wrestler.

USA is still running commercials today with him. :lol

[jayman414]

Mr. Kennedy released from WWE. Seems he hurt himself and almost hurt Randy Orton on Monday's RAW. Appears he's too reckless and undisciplined in the ring, and almost hurt their franchise wrestler.

USA is still running commercials today with him. :lol



Thats a bummer, I always liked Mr Kennedy

[K3nTaKa0s]

Yeah, it's fake, but Randy Orton is still the man...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXUrdHoJOFo

[K3nTaKa0s]

Batista defeats Orton to win the WWE Title.

Jeff Hardy won the Ladder Match to become the new World Heavyweight Champion. However, he did not leave the PPV as champion. CM Punk cashed in his "Money in the Bank" opportunity and pinned Hardy.

Tommy Dreamer is the new ECW Champion.

[magicrat405]

Wrestling!

[TheTallOne]

Yeah, it's fake, but Randy Orton is still the man...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXUrdHoJOFo

Apparently he is a little crazy in real life

[devilandthelord]

Apparently he is a little crazy in real life

Hmmm, what could cause one to be so full of..... rage?

[BotheDMBFan]

Punk heel turn = best decision for him.

[BotheDMBFan]

Batista injured tonight.

[Crush086]

Batista injured tonight.
How bad? He just won the title, and it'd be stupid if they keep him out of action to heal and have nothing but talking for a couple weeks.

I like Orton, but they killed his storyline too quick, with him punting someone every week. He ended running out of people to keep it going. Shit, they had to bring Flair in to keep it interesting. I'm not surprised he only kept it a couple months.

[BotheDMBFan]

How bad? He just won the title, and it'd be stupid if they keep him out of action to heal and have nothing but talking for a couple weeks.

I like Orton, but they killed his storyline too quick, with him punting someone every week. He ended running out of people to keep it going. Shit, they had to bring Flair in to keep it interesting. I'm not surprised he only kept it a couple months.

Torn bicep, will drop title tomorrow.

[kittensXLI]

Doesn't Batista get injured as simply as peeling an orange? What a joke; unfortunate, but still a joke.

[BotheDMBFan]

Doesn't Batista get injured as simply as peeling an orange? What a joke; unfortunate, but still a joke.

He's in his 40s, it's sad, but he just came to prominence WAY too late.

[kittensXLI]

Torn bicep, will drop title tomorrow.
To HHH?

[BotheDMBFan]

To HHH?

Probably. Another possibility is BACK to Orton.

[Jive]

Pro Wrestling is REAL

[kittensXLI]

Probably. Another possibility is BACK to Orton.
I doubt it goes to Orton. It'd be dumb for the title switch, regardless of the fact Batista got injured and is the real reason. A third person has to be involved to try and cover up the real situation, and with HHH still shooting for 100 championship wins, I'd be shocked if it wasn't him who gets it tonight/soon.

[jaking1185]

Umaga released by WWE. Hasn't been doing much anyway lately....

[Crush086]

Torn bicep, will drop title tomorrow.
That fits.

Orton "broke" his arm tonight, and is supposed to invoke his rematch clause to take it back when Batista no shows (he was driven away in an ambulance).

[DmBand801]

HHH return tonight?

that's my guess.

[Crush086]

I'd hope for someone new. HHH will probably show up though.

[DmBand801]

maybe HBK return?

[devilandthelord]

So I just checked their website.
It looks like HHH returned, but nothing happened with Batista's title.
Batista is kind of a joke tho, just look at him, he's like one giant muscle/ligament tear waiting to happen.

[TheTallOne]

So I am seriously considering spend $20 to go see Raw at Mohegan Sun in August. Has anyone actually ever been to an event before who would care to share the experience?

[hbktonyb]

So I am seriously considering spend $20 to go see Raw at Mohegan Sun in August. Has anyone actually ever been to an event before who would care to share the experience?

I've been to several. It is a lot of fun, especially when it is a hot crowd...like at MSG. I've seen a few shows at Mohegan and it is a good arena to watch because it is small and you'll have a good view anywhere. The best one I went to was Survivor Series at MSG some years back, when HBK won the Elimination Chamber to capture his first title in years...

[Styx Cover Band]

So I am seriously considering spend $20 to go see Raw at Mohegan Sun in August. Has anyone actually ever been to an event before who would care to share the experience?

I've been to a ton of wrestling shows over the years. For $20 definitely worth it. I'll warn you though the crowds are mostly young kids and tons of rednecks/socially awkward people.

Side note I've watched the whole episode of ECW so far (first time since it re-debuted) and Jack Swagger, while rough around the edges has impressed me

[DmBand801]

I've been to several. It is a lot of fun, especially when it is a hot crowd...like at MSG. I've seen a few shows at Mohegan and it is a good arena to watch because it is small and you'll have a good view anywhere. The best one I went to was Survivor Series at MSG some years back, when HBK won the Elimination Chamber to capture his first title in years...

I've seen some classic moments as well:

- Royal Rumble in 2000 - Triple H vs Cactus Jack - Street Fight

- Summerslam 2002 - Triple H vs Shawn Michaels - Street Fight - HBK's first match in four years.

[hbktonyb]

I've seen some classic moments as well:

- Royal Rumble in 2000 - Triple H vs Cactus Jack - Street Fight

- Summerslam 2002 - Triple H vs Shawn Michaels - Street Fight - HBK's first match in four years.

I was at that Summerslam!

Haven't been to an event in years though. I'm not liking the new "PG" wrestling as much.

[Aussiemetfan]

last nites tlc was the shit. hardy is ridiculous. awesome ending too, wont spoil it if u didnt see it. but i thought it was a great way to end the show

[kittensXLI]

Who are the current champions?

[Aussiemetfan]

hmm, as of last nite
cm punk wwe champion
orton heavyweight
big slow and jericho tag champs
kofi us champion
mysterio inter champ

thats bout it i think

[ant_marching41]

http://www.wwe.com/shows/summerslam/matches/

Edit: http://www.wwe.com/shows/summerslam/matches/11025562/results/

^ Lamest thing ever. I'd want my money back after witnessing that bs.

[Crush086]

http://www.wwe.com/shows/summerslam/matches/

Edit: http://www.wwe.com/shows/summerslam/matches/11025562/results/

^ Lamest thing ever. I'd want my money back after witnessing that bs.
The Orton/Cena match was actually pretty decent. It had some unscripted fan interference that really changed the match. Orton tried to get DQ'ed, and the match went on. He tried to get counted out, and the match went on. He then used the ropes to win, and the match continued. Then Cena had him in the STFU, and a fan jumped in the ring and put the crossface chickenwing on the ref, stopping the match. Cena broke the hold and was like, "WTF?", and Orton slid out of the ring trying to figure out what happened.

You could tell it was unscripted because the security guards dragged him and the ref out to seperate them and toss the fan, and Cena and Orton didn't know how to continue. So they restart, Orton slides out of the ring, chokes Cena with the ropes, jumps back in and RKO's him. Also, they didn't bother showing the replays or mentioning the fan (until the article the next day).

It was a pleasant surprise.

The Christian/Regal matched sucked balls though. The DX match was good, and the Punk/Hardy match was good too. It wasn't a Wrestlemania type PPV, but it wasn't too bad to be free.

[mja271]

that fan run in from the Orton match was totally scripted. The guy is Ted Dibiase's brother who is a developmental talent. He was on Raw last night I'm pretty sure.

[Crush086]

that fan run in from the Orton match was totally scripted. The guy is Ted Dibiase's brother who is a developmental talent. He was on Raw last night I'm pretty sure.
Really? You sure about that? It seemed too random to be scripted, like Cena and Orton didn't know how to continue or play it off.

And how could you tell who it was? All they showed was the back of the guy's head.

I missed Raw last night though, so I guess it could be. I figured they'd have said something about it last night or the dude wouldn't have been escorted out had it been a scripted intereference.

[hbktonyb]

I read on pwinsider that it was def. scripted, and the person that did the run in was Ted DiBiase's other son.

[Crush086]

That sucks. I really wanted surprises. Guess that goes to show that they can still fool me. :lol

Is he coming to Raw soon?

[hbktonyb]

They didn't say, but I guess he is in the developmental program now.

[jcomey]

I used to be in a writing community (efed) that had a lot of admirers within the WWE. The guy who was in charge was so high up in Microsoft that, one morning, he called Bill Gates "Bill". I thought that was pretty tough. He is one one of the VPs for Square Enix or whatever makes the Final Fantasy games.

Anyway, one of his side projects a few years ago being on the WWE writing team. He was the one who originally gave Randy Orton his breakthrough (when Orton was giving his percentage of recovery each week, etc). Mick Foley, Al Snow, D'Lo Brown, and a couple of others participated in the fed with us (Foley would call Travis and dictate his promos and such over the phone). We had a lot of our stuff show up on WWE TV. They enjoyed Scott Slugger and The Flying Frenchie the most. It was a lot of fun until wrestling got away from me.

The place restarted in 2009...check it out if you wish. It's at www.thefwo.com . There's also an iPhone app for it, I believe. Lots of good history, and some of the best writers I've ever been blessed to read. The stuff from 1999-2002 is amazing. Something for every genre.

(By the way, the guy I made was named "The Cult Icon" Jon Crisp. There's a strong rumor that my character was used for Edge's initial run to the top (when he was getting close to getting the title, only to see something minor screw him up...it caused him to snap...that was how I carried my character a year prior to this. Travis had told me they used elements of the story for Edge, which I thought was pure awesome. Guess it's why it's good to write...never know who's reading.)

[DmBand801]

they confirmed on raw last night that it was scripted.

they even showed the guy standing next to orton.

[Crush086]

they confirmed on raw last night that it was scripted.

they even showed the guy standing next to orton.
Well shit, that's what I get for missing Raw. lol

What a letdown though. Orton and Cena did a great job of playing that off like a random fan.

If you watched it live you would have thought it was a crazy fan.

[jcomey]

Well shit, that's what I get for missing Raw. lol

What a letdown though. Orton and Cena did a great job of playing that off like a random fan.

If you watched it live you would have thought it was a crazy fan.

From what I read, they showed the "crazy fan" quite a bit on camera. No organization would *ever* do this if it were unscripted.

There's a reason why they cut away from sporting events when this happens.

[K3nTaKa0s]

Bob Barker is the guest host on Monday Night Raw tonight. Should be a treat.

[ovationman240]

Bob Barker is the guest host on Monday Night Raw tonight. Should be a treat.

I hope I remember to watch this. I occasionally watch Raw now because the special guest is normally awesome. It's always fun to watch because the story lines have gotten so fucking ridiculous.

[K3nTaKa0s]

This is something else.

[TheTallOne]

I can't believe I'm watching this

[ovationman240]

This is something else.

What's happening? I don't have cable right now =[

[K3nTaKa0s]

Santino, Jillian, IRS, and Jericho had to bid on a Smackdown DVD. Jericho bid $1 and won. If he defeats MVP, he'll win a trip to Hawaii.

[TheTallOne]

Jericho v MVP, but Jericho had to bid on a DVD to get into the match

[ovationman240]

Jericho v MVP, but Jericho had to bid on a DVD to get into the match

ahahahahah YES. I'm so glad they're putting Price is Right shit in this.

[jaking1185]

Jeff Hardy busted for drugs. Who saw that coming? :lol

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/10058978/Ex-WWE-champ-Jeff-Hardy-arrested

[BotheDMBFan]

Ahhh Jeff Hardy, ye face MANY years in jail.

[kittensXLI]

What company is TNT?

[BotheDMBFan]

What company is TNT?

Turner Broadcasting, I believe.

[TempHelpNeeded]

Jericho tweeted about Jeff last night. Don't judge a man till you walk a mile in his shoes or something. I don't want to walk in Jeff's shoes. Mother fucker jumps off ladders.


EDIT - And the article means to say a WWE and former TNA wrestler. TNT never had it's own wrestling organization other than when it would run WCW programming.

[hbktonyb]

Thats disappointing, dude was the hottest thing in wrestling, even with the leave.

[TheTallOne]

Never really liked Hardy, I feel sorry for the guy, but really, this isn't exactly shocking.

[kittensXLI]

EDIT - And the article means to say a WWE and former TNA wrestler. TNT never had it's own wrestling organization other than when it would run WCW programming.
I know I was mocking it.

[TempHelpNeeded]

I know I was mocking it.


Sorry, I meant to quote Bo there. I knew you knew what you were talking about. ;)

[BotheDMBFan]

Sorry, I meant to quote Bo there. I knew you knew what you were talking about. ;)

Greg, you wouldn't know your ass from a portrait of Taft.

[comerelaxnow]

watched wrestlemania 20 last night at my brothers house. It was awesome. Still can't believe Benoit is gone

[JTRocks]

for anyone who has comcast, theyve been having a bunch of free old school wwf stuff on all this month. its pretty fun seeing this stuff again for the first time in like 10 years

actually, they probly have it on all ondemand services, not just comcast

[TempHelpNeeded]

for anyone who has comcast, theyve been having a bunch of free old school wwf stuff on all this month. its pretty fun seeing this stuff again for the first time in like 10 years

actually, they probly have it on all ondemand services, not just comcast


http://www.lwhdtv.com/


Enjoy yourself. Just saw the DX reunion. The 1998 Royal Rumble. And many, many other past greats.

[kittensXLI]

The 1998 Royal Rumble was probably the best RR in history.

[comerelaxnow]

Raw sucked tonight. I so tired of Cena winning every title match

[Crush086]

I enjoyed seeing Trish again. I didn't even bother watching Breaking Point though last night. I knew Cena would never say I Quit, so it was pointless to even get my hopes up.lol

Next PPV could be good though. Cena vs. Orton in a Hell In A Cell, and DX vs. Legacy in a Hell In A Cell.

[hbktonyb]

I really wish they went back to TV-14.

[kittensXLI]

What is it now?

[Crush086]

Just the whole feeling of it nowadays. It's so predictable it's not as enjoyable.

Randy Orton is the bad guy of Raw, but all he's really limited to doing is beating up on guest hosts and RKO'ing everybody. And I hate John Cena......alot.

[wampa3]

Just the whole feeling of it nowadays. It's so predictable it's not as enjoyable.

Randy Orton is the bad guy of Raw, but all he's really limited to doing is beating up on guest hosts and RKO'ing everybody. And I hate John Cena......alot.
:thumbsup

I miss the days of The Rock vs. Austin vs. Triple H, one of those combos. I also miss the glory days of DX.

I think one of the craziest things I remember was when Mankind (Mic Foley) joined the WWE and the main storyline was between him and The Undertaker. That was some freaky entertaining stuff.

[hbktonyb]

What is it now?

Changed to tv PG. Storylines are pretty bad right now.

[hbktonyb]

:thumbsup

I miss the days of The Rock vs. Austin vs. Triple H, one of those combos. I also miss the glory days of DX.

I think one of the craziest things I remember was when Mankind (Mic Foley) joined the WWE and the main storyline was between him and The Undertaker. That was some freaky entertaining stuff.

I hear ya. THe attitude era was the best. I miss the Godfather (who I met once in a club in vegas), the big Valboski, Stone Cold slugging beers, bra and panties matches! haha

[ovationman240]

I hear ya. THe attitude era was the best. I miss the Godfather (who I met once in a club in vegas), the big Valboski, Stone Cold slugging beers, bra and panties matches! haha

PUPPIESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. I want to see another Rock Show though.

[K3nTaKa0s]

The WWE needs Joel Gertner in a Rated R setting.

[Crush086]

If anything, they should have better promos nowadays. I could spend a day watching Austin, Rock, Kurt Angle, and (old) DX promos.

Cody Rhodes last night was atrocious on the mic. His lisp kills any sort of heel aura, and he sounds like a goof. I know he can't really control it, but still... and then you got DX (again). 2 40 year old guys telling people to suck it. It doesn't work the same 15 years later guys.

Orton's are decent, although they've been lacking recently, but Cena's are always so boring. All he does is pander to the crowd and yell alot. He's not even funny.

It's obvious they aren't putting much stock into the matches too. Hornswoggle beating Chavo Guerrero like 6 times in a row? Those have been terrible. They have very few matches that I look forward to on Raw, outside of Legacy whooping Cena's ass.

ECW seems non-existent. Their brand is so bad, they don't even illicit reaction from the crowd at PPVs.

CM Punk isn't too bad on Smackdown as a heel, but again, very few matches I look forward to.

And like I mentioned earlier about a Submissions only PPV (Breaking Point), you could tell who would win the matches without even watching. The only one I guessed wrong on was the DX/Legacy match, and the Punk/Taker match. But look at the Cena/Orton match. Cena's total babyface guaranteed he'd win basically.

I'll watch Smackdown this Friday though to see how the Taker reacts to being screwed out of his title. I actually thought this was brilliant though, so they don't have the same "guy has been out of action for awhile, returns, and wins the title at the next PPV" (see Batista for the most recent instance of this happening).

One of the few things I do enjoy though is the new talent they have coming in, with Dibiase Jr, Rhodes, and Punk. They need to bring the ECW Hart Dynasty to one of the brands too.

/rant

[K3nTaKa0s]

Winners:

Undertaker
Morrison
Mickie James
Jericho and Big Show
Randy Orton
Drew McIntyre
Kofi Kingston
DX

[DMBfan41]

How was the Undertaker Hell in a cell match.

Orton-Cena was disappointing. DX vs Legacy was entertaining, but far too predictable.

[hbktonyb]

Why would an UT title win open the show??

[K3nTaKa0s]

It was only a 10-minute match. I guess Undertaker injured his hip pretty bad.

I didn't get to see that match.

[hbktonyb]

WWE is in trouble, b/c their 2 best entertainers are still HBK and UT.

[hbktonyb]

Wish Santino was a better wrester, b/c he is a hell of a good actor.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

I wonder if the OP is dead...?

[2steppinKJ]

WWE is in trouble, b/c their 2 best entertainers are still HBK and UT.

And PG = tame. Hell in a Cell matches need blood IMO and I bet there was none in sight.

[DMBfan41]

No blood, no fighting on top of the cell, and no weapons except for a chair. Hell in a Cell used to really mean hell. Now it's nothing.

[dmbmuskie]

Who gets beat up by the Steelers tonight?

[hbktonyb]

PG WWE really is not as good.

[K3nTaKa0s]

No blood, no fighting on top of the cell, and no weapons except for a chair. Hell in a Cell used to really mean hell. Now it's nothing.

Should've been blood... http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6109/oops.png

[Crush086]

And PG = tame. Hell in a Cell matches need blood IMO and I bet there was none in sight.
7-10 years ago, a Hell In A Cell PPV would have been one for the ages. At least Cena got punted, so hopefully I won't have to put up with him for a while.
Who gets beat up by the Steelers tonight?
I had no idea it was Ben until last night. I hope they boo him like they booed the heck out of Sharpton last night.
PG WWE really is not as good.
True. I've actually started watching some TNA recently because of this.

[donnyw]

Should've been blood... http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6109/oops.png

I saw the ref throw something out of the ring and wondered if that was what it was. Too bad. That definitely would have added to a lackluster match.

7-10 years ago, a Hell In A Cell PPV would have been one for the ages. At least Cena got punted, so hopefully I won't have to put up with him for a while.

Cena was fine. He was standing up without a problem and appeared clear-headed a couple minutes later. It must have been the Punt Lite that Orton saves only for Cena.

[comerelaxnow]

So Takers Champ again? Whats gonna be the bs reason he loses the belt this time?

[Speilmen230]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTNyKIGXiI

haha i watched wrestling way back when during the austin/rock era.. or the "attitude" era back when it was still WWF.

these words will forever be burned in my mind...

"STONE COLD STONE COLD STONE COLD!!!!" - jim ross

[donnyw]

So Takers Champ again? Whats gonna be the bs reason he loses the belt this time?

Vince, Punk and Bret Hart conspire to screw him out of it at Survivor Series.

[Crush086]

Roethlisberger did a pretty good job as guest host. Good stuff.

[K3nTaKa0s]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H76DwHgOwpA

Yesssssssssssssss!!!

[water_into_wine]

*Raises hands into air*

(Thunderous Applause)

"I knew it wasn't fake"

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

^ haha I totally thought of this thread earlier during that new episode too, haha nice.

[Speilmen230]

so raw is on and ozzy and sharon osbourne are hosting...

[JaJunk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H76DwHgOwpA

Yesssssssssssssss!!!

I think that is around the time I decided I no longer cared about the wrestling world. Never was a huge WCW fan anyway.

[K3nTaKa0s]

Anyone watching Survivor Series online?

[hbktonyb]

No, link?

[hbktonyb]

Can't find one on JustinTV

[Speilmen230]

http://everygeek.webs.com/apps/videos/videos/view/5831064-wwe-survivor-series-2009

passcode is lwhdtv

[K3nTaKa0s]

Good shit, Spellman.

[gocubsgo3822]

Just met the murchandising director of WWE.. Talked to orton today as well

[Speilmen230]

Good shit, Spellman.

:):thumbsup i'm here for the masses haha

[Crush086]

Appreciate it Spielman.

[K3nTaKa0s]

Damn.. I thought your name was Spellman. My bad, Speilmen.

[Speilmen230]

Damn.. I thought your name was Spellman. My bad, Speilmen.

haha its cool.. it happens all the time. the best part is... i got that nickname from someone messing up my last name which is Theilman (th-eel-man) and he mistook it for Speilmen (Sp-eel-men)

[Crush086]

The ending to the Orton Kingston match was weak.

[TheTallOne]

Who won?

[Speilmen230]

The ending to the Orton Kingston match was weak.

i thought it was pretty good i think Kolfi is going to get a major championship push here soon.

[TheTallOne]

Kofi's a Boston College grad and I see his dad (who works here) every day in the library. I feel like he is slowly moving up the ranks.

[Speilmen230]

Kofi's a Boston College grad and I see his dad (who works here) every day in the library. I feel like he is slowly moving up the ranks.

i know this may be a stretch and his mic skills are not nearly as good but.. i see kolfi as a modern day Rock or Shawn Michaels... he has the athletic ability to have great matches night in and night out.

[Crush086]

i thought it was pretty good i think Kolfi is going to get a major championship push here soon.

I wanted them to actually wrestle each other a bit instead of Kofi eliminating Punk and then immediately finishing Orton.

The Taker/Y2J/Show match was pretty good though.

[Speilmen230]

divas... ZZZZZZZ boring... such a waste of time. they are only good for looking at.. they need to dump the divas and bring back the Cruiserweight Division... much more fun and exciting to watch.

[jackisback24]

divas... ZZZZZZZ boring... such a waste of time. they are only good for looking at.. they need to dump the divas and bring back the Cruiserweight Division... much more fun and exciting to watch.


Spielman, thanks. Is this live?

It's PG, guys because of Linda running for Senate.

[TheTallOne]

The Divas are just useless

[Crush086]

Woman matches are so terrible. I missed Batista whip Rey though.lol

[Speilmen230]

Spielman, thanks. Is this live?

It's PG, guys because of Linda running for Senate.

yes i do believe it is live.

:ugh say what??

[jackisback24]

Woman matches are so terrible. I missed Batista whip Rey though.lol

reading Rey Rey's book. Anyone know Rey's first ring name? Don't look it up.

[jackisback24]

rey charles so that coming. hbk super kicks hhh!

[jackisback24]

i froze. Yes, politics.

[jackisback24]

cena wins. can they track usage, spiel?

[Speilmen230]

if they pushed cena any harder he would fall over... my god, the man has been in and out of the WWE Championship picture for the last 4 years and boy has it gotten stale... he has become the next hulk hogan, only the worst part is that he hasn't politicked his way into this role they have written him into this, ugh whatever.

[Speilmen230]

cena wins. can they track usage, spiel?

what ya mean?

[jackisback24]

if they pushed cena any harder he would fall over... my god, the man has been in and out of the WWE Championship picture for the last 4 years and boy has it gotten stale... he has become the next hulk hogan, only the worst part is that he hasn't politicked his way into this role they have written him into this, ugh whatever.


they need a shakeup indeed. Kofi getting a nice push.

Can WWE track usage online?

[Speilmen230]

they need a shakeup indeed. Kofi getting a nice push.

Can WWE track usage online?

the champ will have to be Heel before kofi makes a run for it it would be nice to see a random person take it from Cena not the usual really boring Orton/Cena feud

i do not believe so.. if they can they would have some 800 offenders.. and they would probably go after the people who run the site. i have used that before and i have never been reprimanded or anything.

[Crush086]

I thought they were going to give DiBiase a push a month or so ago, when Legacy was having problems. They need more big time superstars.

[jackisback24]

I thought they were going to give DiBiase a push a month or so ago, when Legacy was having problems. They need more big time superstars.

I say the short term solution is bring in Sting for a fresh program with Cena. He can do a one year stint with WWE and have fresh programs w/everyone.

Rock guests host Raw in a month or so.

[Speilmen230]

yes indeed. knowing the wwe writers i see edge coming back switching to raw and BOOM! instantly Edge/Cena fued is reborn

[Crush086]

Sting wrestles for TNA. Or at least last I knew he did.

[jaking1185]

I say the short term solution is bring in Sting for a fresh program with Cena. He can do a one year stint with WWE and have fresh programs w/everyone.

Rock guests host Raw in a month or so.

I'm pretty sure Sting said he would never work for the WWE because of how they disrespected the WCW people when they came over.

[Speilmen230]

I say the short term solution is bring in Sting for a fresh program with Cena. He can do a one year stint with WWE and have fresh programs w/everyone.

Rock guests host Raw in a month or so.

sting costs way too much for them to go out and get... TNA is way too nice of a situation for him to leave.

[jackisback24]

sting costs way too much for them to go out and get... TNA is way too nice of a situation for him to leave.

I think Sting's contract expired in October, unless he re-signed. I think Vince would give him a nice and cushy 8 month contract where he wouldn't have to tour, just PPV and TV shows, and in exchange he does the big WWE shows like Mania and goes into the WWE Hall of Fame. Hey, Nick Bockwinkle went in and he was a big star in the AWA.

[Speilmen230]

I think Sting's contract expired in October, unless he re-signed. I think Vince would give him a nice and cushy 8 month contract where he wouldn't have to tour, just PPV and TV shows, and in exchange he does the big WWE shows like Mania and goes into the WWE Hall of Fame. Hey, Nick Bockwinkle went in and he was a big star in the AWA.

i don't think he is worth it to vince, in vinces eyes they are doing just fine without him, now if someone like The Rock wanted to stake a full scale comeback i'm sure he would bite... HARD! he would have loved it if the rock never left.

[jackisback24]

i don't think he is worth it to vince, in vinces eyes they are doing just fine without him, now if someone like The Rock wanted to stake a full scale comeback i'm sure he would bite... HARD! he would have loved it if the rock never left.

you have to look at it from a merchandising point of view. Vince calls Sting every year trying to lure him as he's the only big name never to come to WWE. If Sting went, there are DVDs and books and all of that that Vince can push, plus the HOF.

[TheTallOne]

Sting practically owns TNA with Angle. Why would he go back to somewhere where it is doubtful he would have a leading role?