Pro Wrestling is FAKE!?!

[K3nTaKa0s]

Yeah, I'm the troll. I'm not the one referencing TNA (or WWE) in other threads.

[kittensXLI]

You think 300 people yelling when Okada comes out or Bubba Ray Dudley in the main event is acceptable, but bash The Miz. You're the most biased person ever in this thread. You're troll and nobody takes you seriously.

But me making a TNA wisecrack in a post outside this thread is really the issue...

[K3nTaKa0s]

Why would I expect anyone to take me seriously? It's a message board, not a political speech.

Okada and Bubba aren't world champions.

[kittensXLI]

:lol:lol:lol The Divas suck but the Knockouts are great!!!!!!

[kittensXLI]

Uh because people like to spend some free time discussing topics, not listening to a troll ballwash a shitty product, or buzzkill something everyone likes because of a personal bias or bitterness towards.

[K3nTaKa0s]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

[BotheDMBFan]

Apparently The Rock has wrestled 6 matches since losing to Brock Lesnar at SummerSlam 2002. They're actually all fairly notable matches too. Can anyone name some/all of them?

Bo, I'm looking at you especially.

Some hints :
- 5 matches were in 2003, 1 was in 2004
- 5 matches were singles matches, 1 was not
- 4 matches were at PPVs, 2 were not
- 3 matches were wins, 3 were losses

These aren't in order...

Rock v Austin, Rock v Goldberg, Rock v Hogan, Rock n Sock v Evolution, Rock v Hurricane, I can't think of another one. Shit. Was the battle royal thing he lost to Booker T before or after the Lesnar match?

[JacobLovesYou]

thing is, we aren't WWE marks. we commend the things we like, but most of the time we talk about how things could've been better.

k3n, ALL you do is say TNA is good. anyone only following your posts in here would think wrestling is still as strong and consistent as monday night wars/attitude era.

how you ballwash everything TNA does is unrealistic so, in turn, everything you say is laughed at. we try and find the silver lining in WWE and you act like the whole TNA cloud is silver.

[BotheDMBFan]

He did call TNA on how awful the Jeff Harvey thing was.

[K3nTaKa0s]

Wow. It sucks to be me.

[kittensXLI]

These aren't in order...

Rock v Austin, Rock v Goldberg, Rock v Hogan, Rock n Sock v Evolution, Rock v Hurricane, I can't think of another one. Shit. Was the battle royal thing he lost to Booker T before or after the Lesnar match?
Oh crap, I forgot about that. That must have been 2003 too.

You got 5 I figured you would, though. The remaining match was Rock over Jeff Hardy on Raw.

I guess that battle royal makes 7 total matches since 2002.

But all in all, yeah, no way he "never wrestles again" like many think.

[kittensXLI]

He did call TNA on how awful the Jeff Harvey thing was.
I guess 1 out of 1,000,000 is the best we'll ever get.

Wow. It sucks to be me.
This thread will be very active during a good Raw and you'll come in with one post for the night saying, "Can't wait for Impact this Thursday night!!!"

You're a hypocrite and a troll. Please go away.

[JacobLovesYou]

nah, i take it all back.

i have to commend k3n for never breaking kayfabe.

[kittensXLI]

nah, i take it all back.

i have to commend k3n for never breaking kayfabe.
:lol:lol :thumbsup

There's no doubt in my mind the man behind the keyboard over there is the real life Vince Russo.

[K3nTaKa0s]

Nah.. I don't think I'll go away this time. There's not a lot of other threads that interest me this time of year.

[BotheDMBFan]

Oh crap, I forgot about that. That must have been 2003 too.

You got 5 I figured you would, though. The remaining match was Rock over Jeff Hardy on Raw.

I guess that battle royal makes 7 total matches since 2002.

But all in all, yeah, no way he "never wrestles again" like many think.

I try to block Jeff Harvey from my mind, so I'm not that upset about not getting it.

[kittensXLI]

I try to block Jeff Harvey from my mind, so I'm not that upset about not getting it.
I don't blame you. Of course the match was miserable anyway, so nothing worth remembering from it as usual.

What do you think about Flair managing Matt Hardy?! blolololol.

Fatt Hardly

[BotheDMBFan]

I don't blame you. Of course the match was miserable anyway, so nothing worth remembering from it as usual.

What do you think about Flair managing Matt Hardy?! blolololol.

Fatt Hardly

Ric Blair Warner managing Mott the Hoople Harvey sounds hilarious.

[kittensXLI]

Ric Blair Warner managing Mott the Hoppel Harvey sounds hilarious.
It's such a shame Jeff is a druggie and deserves to be in prison because we can't see a Hardly Boyz reunion against MCMG!!!! Maybe add Flair and Foley, omg hardcore!!!! Or Steiner, omg botches!!!!

[BotheDMBFan]

It's such a shame Jeff is a druggie and deserves to be in prison because we can't see a Hardly Boyz reunion against MCMG!!!! Maybe add Flair and Foley, omg hardcore!!!! Or Steiner, omg botches!!!!

Did Terry Funk ever wrestle for TNA?

[JacobLovesYou]

my thoughts on The Rock:

i'm starting to think that one of the reasons the rock isn't wrestling at WM is because 1) the rock didn't think it would help his image for Fast Five and/or 2) Vince didn't want to pay the extra money Rock would need to perform because he thought his presence would boost sales enough.

having said that, i think the following is vince's mindset:

the rock (and stone cold) just being present is enough to boost the buyrate for this year, and since the rock is young enough, he can still wrestle at a later WM for another boosted buy rate. it's a great way to spread out and really utilize (or squeeze to death) the marketability the rock has with the WWE.

[K3nTaKa0s]

When would you like to see a Hardy Boys / Machineguns match?

Steiner has looked good in his matches so far. What has he botched?

[kittensXLI]

Did Terry Funk ever wrestle for TNA?
Probably.

Remember when K3nta would complain about lack of clean finishes in the 'E? Classic.

MVP of Impact was, for the second straight week, the Al Snow 4-second cameo appearance.

[BotheDMBFan]

That whole opening his mouth, thing.

[K3nTaKa0s]

You guys only want to make jokes. You guys get mad at me for "trolling," but when I try to start legitimate discussions on here, it's the same ole shit.

[BotheDMBFan]

Probably.

Remember when K3nta would complain about lack of clean finishes in the 'E? Classic.

MVP of Impact was, for the second straight week, the Al Snow 4-second cameo appearance.

He made a one night house show appearance as a favor to Foley.

[kittensXLI]

my thoughts on The Rock:

i'm starting to think that one of the reasons the rock isn't wrestling at WM is because 1) the rock didn't think it would help his image for Fast Five and/or 2) Vince didn't want to pay the extra money Rock would need to perform because he thought his presence would boost sales enough.

having said that, i think the following is vince's mindset:

the rock (and stone cold) just being present is enough to boost the buyrate for this year, and since the rock is young enough, he can still wrestle at a later WM for another boosted buy rate. it's a great way to spread out and really utilize (or squeeze to death) the marketability the rock has with the WWE.
:thumbsup All of this is agreeable. There's no reason ($) to have Rock wrestle now. They can turn SummerSlam into a monster if they want, or ave him for WM28 if they really feel like it.

While some things, such as H/Undertaker, feel way too rushed and forced, WM has shaped up nicely this year. Hopefully Rock doesn't try too hard to be funny or whatever, though. That's my biggest fear atm.

[Crush086]

You guys only want to make jokes. You guys get mad at me for "trolling," but when I try to start legitimate discussions on here, it's the same ole shit.
Believe it or not, or contrary to the popular belief here, I enjoy your posts. I think there's a general consensus to the things WWE needs to improve, and although TNA is quite a bit behind WWE as far as competition goes, the differing opinion is appreciated.

Besides, I still watch TNA, although not as regularly as I used to. But usually when I make dinner I'm watching it, so there's at least 2 viewers in this thread lulz

At the end of the day though, to each his own. I dig The Rock's return, others are clamoring about how bullshit it is that he's never live. Different strokes for different folks.

[kittensXLI]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bUvhgZENVQ :lol:lol @ Christian

[JacobLovesYou]

don't think it will happen, but i'd love to see this order of events for rock:

1. do whatever they have planned for WM but don't fully wrap up rock/cena
2. rock sticks around on a really limited basis after WM and continues to "feud" with cena
3. things escalate again in time for the rock to guest referee at cena's match at summerslam (another boosted buyrate)
4. during the SSlam match, cena stands up to the rock and and gets him to do the 3-count after he hits the attitude adjustment on whoever he wrestles
5. the RAW after SSlam starts with the rock telling cena that he gained a newfound respect for him at SSlam and will leave the WWE because it's cena's business now (appears real, no kayfabe, like it might be the end of the feud)
6. later that night on RAW there is a shocking email from the mystery GM where he says he's going to reveal his true identity... cue THE ROCK's music... the rock cuts a promo to end RAW where he tells john cena he isn't going anywhere and that cena is still a candyass
7. as the newly revealed RAW GM, it'll still be acceptable to have "emails from the rock" on a regular basis and "via satellite" appearances occasionally
8. the rock makes a few key live RAW appearances around the time of important PPVs, most notably survivor series cause its a biggie... the time passes until...
9. the rock is a surprise entrant in the royal rumble at #30 (last entrant) where he lasts for quite awhile until cena eliminates him, actively reigniting the rock/cena rivalry
10. rock/cena have a few altercations leading up to elimination chamber where rock interferes and causes cena to lose
11. next night on RAW, cena proposes him vs. rock at WM... if rock loses then he must resign as GM... the rock accepts
12. during the buildup, rock is somewhat of a likeable heel because he criticizes cena and PG WWE and makes fun of the kids in the crowd. fans like us love it- feud has an attitude vs. PG feel, like a battle of two wrestling eras and ideals
13. at WM, john cena beats the rock in a match with hogan/rock like pops and spots. the rock puts cena way over by shaking his hand

this scenario is actually plausible because:
1) it should help with ratings for a full year
2) the rock's role would be perfectly manageable with his movies/other dealings
3) the rock being GM would put him in a non-wrestling role that would be filled mostly with video responses and "Rock Emails" (you can even email the rock and get a response just like some of the old mailing things WWF used to do) + a handful of heavily advertised RAW appearances and a few surprise appearances
4) the rock being involved, even on a limited basis, for an entire year will help establish a better mix of PG & PG13 material for the future*
5) the rock being present for a whole year would give creative the opportunity to REALLY push the new guys so the brand can have an expansion period akin to the stone cold/rock/HHH days after hogan/hart left

*the best mix of PG & PG13 would to have faces that are "eat your vitamins!" types and heels that use minor curse words (ass, damn, hell)

also, a year from now should be damn close to when HHH might want to retire, and he could take over for the rock as GM on a permanent basis

[JacobLovesYou]

damn that was long but i was thinking about it earlier today and you all have long ass posts sometimes too :lol

[kittensXLI]

While all that sounds great in theory, The Rock isn't exactly the best wrestler. And Cena freaking sucks. So I don't think I'd want to see a match between the two with Cena going over, and not just because of bias. Heck, Rock has put over far less worthy guys like Goldberg, Lesnar, and Hurricane, but still. Cena losing to Rock could turn him heel once and for all. Set up a massive heel tear for years.

[comerelaxnow]

Hogan on....American Idol?? Actually some pretty funny shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXk4uW22DOk&feature=player_embedded

Also you guys see the picture Bret Hart drew of Hogan?

http://nodq.com/features/302954430.shtml

[JacobLovesYou]

while i'd much rather prefer the rock beat cena, unless the rock was going to stay around on a more permanent basis, it makes zero since for the future of the company.

[JacobLovesYou]

i'm fairly confident that rock and cena could work out a great match with their respective styles. not great from a technical standpoint but from timing spots correctly, working the crowd, etc.

[kittensXLI]

while i'd much rather prefer the rock beat cena, unless the rock was going to stay around on a more permanent basis, it makes zero since for the future of the company.
I understand that, but he's put over many others of lesser value/future than Cena many times in the past. It'd be nice to see him win a big one. Outside of Austin (finally) and Hogan, when has Rock had a big win?

Just out of curiosity, how much younger than Rock is Cena anyway? Like 4 years?

[kittensXLI]

Oh, Rock would never want to beat Cena. The 'E would never have him beat Cena either. It's a guarantee Cena would win.

[Speilmen230]

Rock is 38, Cena is 33.

Really not that big of a difference. Cena seems a lot younger than 33.

At the age of 38 Rock could probably still put on a hell of a match.

[comerelaxnow]

Having Rock beat Cena the 1st match and then Cena come back and beat Rock in a later match would actually be better for the business

[JacobLovesYou]

Having Rock beat Cena the 1st match and then Cena come back and beat Rock in a later match would actually be better for the business

agreed. and it would appease some people like us when he won the first time.

and although there is only a 5 year age diff, its more about the perception of "old superstar" and "new superstar".. it really does feel like there is a huge generational gap even though they're basically the same age.

[comerelaxnow]

I can't believe there is only a 5 year gap between them. Crazy....

[kittensXLI]

I recommend to everyone in this thread to re-watch WM18. What a fantastic PPV.

[comerelaxnow]

My brother had tickets for WM 18 and was working at a car dealership at the time and a half hour before my brother was suposed to get off work some guy came in asking about cars. Made my Brother show him cars for close to 4 hours and ended up just saying no thanks and left. By that time WM was already half over. He was pissed.

[comerelaxnow]

Bret is actually selling these drawings on ebay for Charity. This ones of Ric Flair "The Chop Kid"

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220759857594&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_500wt_1156

[hbktonyb]

Because of Rock's comments I could see him wrestling again. If he does wrestle Cena, Cena would go over.

[jackisback24]

My brother had tickets for WM 18 and was working at a car dealership at the time and a half hour before my brother was suposed to get off work some guy came in asking about cars. Made my Brother show him cars for close to 4 hours and ended up just saying no thanks and left. By that time WM was already half over. He was pissed.
dude, really? I would've left at noon that day. fuck that shit.

[jackisback24]

saw the American Idol thing. Hogan was put over huge. Needed a TNA shirt.

Rock's quotes have raised some eyebrows for sure.

I think for Taker's match they need to have DX of Jesse James, XPAC and Nash and maybe Gunn to come out and surround the ring on Raw to create some interest when Taker is in the ring. That'll spark some interest.

[jackisback24]

http://www.wrestleview.com/viewnews.php?id=1300977005

[comerelaxnow]

dude, really? I would've left at noon that day. fuck that shit.

Yup! Didn't help that the car dealership was owned by his future father in law. Otherwise i think he would have just said screw this...

[K3nTaKa0s]

TNA can't catch a break. Angle gets arrested for DUI.

[BotheDMBFan]

TNA can't catch a break. Angle gets arrested for DUI.

They hire people with drug and alcohol problems as their big stars, doesn't surprise me this shit constantly happens with them.

[jackisback24]

and Hogan didn't wear a TNA shirt on Idol....could've helped them huge.


Kitts, your avatar looks like George the animal Steele.

[jackisback24]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLpxSiRMIIw&feature=related

[jackisback24]

gotta watch this. He can sing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNt52R9YU8Q&feature=related

[jackisback24]

"His legacy, like he's Tom Brady!" LOL at around 59 second mark.:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wuL1Oa5kKM&feature=related

[Evans]

"His legacy, like he's Tom Brady!" LOL at around 59 second mark.:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wuL1Oa5kKM&feature=related

Love those shoot interviews. There's a great one of Jim Duggan talking about how Damien (Jake's snake) got frozen solid one night because it was accidentally left in a truck. Honky Tonk Man has quite a bit of (free) stuff on Youtube, and he's funny too (and living up to the overweight Elvis stereotype).

I appreciate Bret Hart more now than I did then. I never saw him as "the face of" any organization though, he was no Hogan in terms of entertainment. Great wrestler, horrible talker.

On another note, the new WWE All Stars game comes out Tuesday and the demo is up on PS3/Xbox. Great game if you're into the old arcade wrestling games from 10-15 years ago!

[jackisback24]

Love those shoot interviews. There's a great one of Jim Duggan talking about how Damien (Jake's snake) got frozen solid one night because it was accidentally left in a truck. Honky Tonk Man has quite a bit of (free) stuff on Youtube, and he's funny too (and living up to the overweight Elvis stereotype).

I appreciate Bret Hart more now than I did then. I never saw him as "the face of" any organization though, he was no Hogan in terms of entertainment. Great wrestler, horrible talker.

On another note, the new WWE All Stars game comes out Tuesday and the demo is up on PS3/Xbox. Great game if you're into the old arcade wrestling games from 10-15 years ago!

cool thanks.

[jackisback24]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXLRLJGCAfc&feature=related

[K3nTaKa0s]

Kurt Angle has been arrested and was charged with being in control of a motor vehicle while intoxicated. The highway patrol did not actually see Angle operarting the vehicle so he has not been charged with drunk driving.

[Evans]

Check out this upcoming documentary about a Hulk Hogan superfan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QFs2YiH0ZM

I like the first comment underneath: "Doesnt drink smoke or do drugs. Hasnt missed a meal either apparently. You would think the biggest Hogan fan would be in decent shape. Wasnt train one of Hogans demandments?"

[K3nTaKa0s]

http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/publish/TNA/article10017551.shtml

[GrooGrux420]

Happy Nitro Day!

[K3nTaKa0s]

Earlier today on his Twitter page, Michael Cole used a gay slur when addressing Josh Mathews. Perhaps he missed that WWE and GLAAD are now working together.

After realizing that wasn't a bright move, he then wrote the following on his Twitter page, @MichaelCole:

"I apologize to any and all who were offended by my tweet toward young Josh Mathews. It was obviously not meant the way it was taken." Then he added, "I was not ordered to apologize I said I am sorry because I am. Now can I get back to being a character again please?"

Source: PWInsider

[K3nTaKa0s]

Bad news for Michael Cole: TMZ has picked up on him throwing a gay slur on Josh Mathews. It never ceases to amaze me that people don't realize that the internet actually reaches beyond whatever device they are using to access it. Anyway, this will not make WWE management happy

Credit: PWInsider

------

In a perfect world, Cole will get his ass beat at Wrestlemania and never do commentary for WWE again.

[AndySlash]

utter stupidity from michael cole. just complete idiocy.

[JacobLovesYou]

what did he say?

[BotheDMBFan]

Probably called him a "faggot" or something. He'll be asked to play nice, issue a statement, and no one will care.

[kittensXLI]

Probably called him a "faggot" or something. He'll be asked to play nice, issue a statement, and no one will care.
Well, there's at least one person we know who will care.

And it's not like he went on Twitter and wished death on someone's entire family...

[JacobLovesYou]

you really think he was as blatant as calling him a faggot?

[BotheDMBFan]

you really think he was as blatant as calling him a faggot?

Probably as an offhanded remark, yeah. Like you'd maybe call your friend a fag or a gaylord, or something. That's probably all this was.

[kittensXLI]

you really think he was as blatant as calling him a faggot?
Cole is pretty stupid...

Probably as an offhanded remark, yeah. Like you'd maybe call your friend a fag or a gaylord, or something. That's probably all this was.
Yeah, but still. A worker of the topic company in it's industry should know better.

[BotheDMBFan]

Cole is pretty stupid...


Yeah, but still. A worker of the topic company in it's industry should know better.

I agree. I'm just saying I don't think he went on some vicious anti-gay rant Mel Gibson style.

[K3nTaKa0s]

...especially after GLAAD was upset with WWE and John Cena for Cena's comments during his rap a couple weeks ago.

[BotheDMBFan]

...especially after GLAAD was upset with WWE and John Cena for Cena's comments during his rap a couple weeks ago.

And Angle was stupid enough to drive drunk (well, driving drunk any time makes you a fucking retard, especially considering he's done it before); after one of your top guys was just stoned out of his mind in a ring; why bring more bad pub to your failing company?

[kittensXLI]

I agree. I'm just saying I don't think he went on some vicious anti-gay rant Mel Gibson style.
I agree. It's a shame the way TMZ gets a hold of something and spins it terribly.

[K3nTaKa0s]

Failing company? That's not a very nice thing to say.

[BotheDMBFan]

I agree. It's a shame the way TMZ gets a hold of something and spins it terribly.

Apparently they did a piece slamming Sandler or some old SNL guy, and Lovitz wants to kick the TMZ guy's ass. Or just start houndedly reporting everything the fucking guy does.

[BotheDMBFan]

Failing company? That's not a very nice thing to say.

I say it because it's not a very nice thing to watch. Oh, and because it is hemorrhaging money.

[kittensXLI]

:lol:lol:lol

[K3nTaKa0s]

It must be nice to be privy to TNA's finances.

[K3nTaKa0s]

It's a shame I can't post anything on here about WWE without having to deal with comments about TNA.

[BotheDMBFan]

It must be nice to be privy to TNA's finances.

It's even nicer to have various reports come out at the fact that they're losing money, and can't pay workers on occasion. They keep spending money on bad ideas that don't pay off. A lot of their workers have huge contracts, but are way past their prime, or drug addicts, or drunks, or washed up could have beens.

[K3nTaKa0s]

"various reports". If you read it on the Internet, it must be true.

[kittensXLI]

It's a shame TNA isn't even remotely good otherwise truthful comments about them wouldn't be so bad.

[K3nTaKa0s]

It's a shame TNA isn't even remotely good otherwise truthful comments about them wouldn't be so bad.

It's too bad I'm not the only one who disagrees.

[BotheDMBFan]

Kurdt, I have a real question. Why did TNA stop using the 6 sided ring? Why did they decide to abandon the one unique and interesting thing about them?

[BotheDMBFan]

It's too bad I'm not the only one who disagrees.

Apparently not enough people disagree that TNA is terrible, because they're not making enough money to keep the contracts they have and every big business move they make backfires horribly.

[kittensXLI]

Because the 6-sided ring was 'tarded. I applaud TNA for going back to the regular one. One of the best decisions they've ever made.

[kittensXLI]

Apparently not enough people disagree that TNA is terrible, because they're not making enough money to keep the contracts they have and every big business move they make backfires horribly.
Dude, you don't hear the 300 people in the Impact Zone almost every week cheering like crazy for Okada after Borash offers free t-shirts during tv timeouts?

[K3nTaKa0s]

I think Hogan convinced them to go to a four-sided ring because it was "traditional".

[K3nTaKa0s]

Apparently not enough people disagree that TNA is terrible, because they're not making enough money to keep the contracts they have and every big business move they make backfires horribly.

For a company that can't pay anybody, they sure do seem to be to re-sign talent every month.

[BotheDMBFan]

Because the 6-sided ring was 'tarded. I applaud TNA for going back to the regular one. One of the best decisions they've ever made.

Tarded, maybe. But at least it made them moderately original in one regard. They do nothing original, and that is their biggest problem.

[BotheDMBFan]

For a company that can't pay anybody, they sure do seem to be to re-sign talent every month.

So did ECW. Look what happened with them. I think Paul STILL owes Dreamer 100k.

[K3nTaKa0s]

So did ECW. Look what happened with them. I think Paul STILL owes Dreamer 100k.

Ohhh... you mean the Paul Heyman that everyone wants to see come in TNA and have complete control over the company?

[kittensXLI]

:lol Doesn't Robbie E work as a high school physical education teacher outside of wrestling because TNA pays him scraps?

[BotheDMBFan]

Ohhh... you mean the Paul Heyman that everyone wants to see come in TNA and have complete control over the company?

So long as he wasn't handling the finances, yeah.

[K3nTaKa0s]

:lol Doesn't Robbie E work as a high school physical education teacher outside of wrestling because TNA pays him scraps?

I couldn't tell you, honestly.

[kittensXLI]

Pretty sad when "crook" Heyman would be a savior to your company...

[BotheDMBFan]

Paul Heyman is a fantastic ideas man, just doesn't know how to work money. On Smackdown when he was lead for that with the Smackdown Six, it was amazing. Lots of great ideas, using the talent to the best of their abilities, and it was fairly original. That was Paul being an ideas man, and not a guy who dealt with cash money.

[kittensXLI]

Paul Heyman is a fantastic ideas man, just doesn't know how to work money. On Smackdown when he was lead for that with the Smackdown Six, it was amazing. Lots of great ideas, using the talent to the best of their abilities, and it was fairly original. That was Paul being an ideas man, and not a guy who dealt with cash money.
:thumbsup:thumbsup

[jackisback24]

so does anyone else want to guess the rating for this Monday's Raw with Rock and Cena on same show?

I'm guessing 4.3 and HnkyTony has 3.6. I'm not sure if anyone has listed a rating.

[BotheDMBFan]

4.1, why not?

[K3nTaKa0s]

I'll go with a 3.8.

[BotheDMBFan]

That was my first gut reaction, but I decided to go higher.

[kittensXLI]

Despite being completely meaningless, I guess the rating will be either 3.5 or 3.9. Whichever one isn't taken by someone else once it's the start of Raw, that'll be my pick.

[BotheDMBFan]

“Our fans made it clear that they preferred the Thursday night time period. By moving to Thursdays, this is a win/win opportunity for both TNA and the fans. We are looking forward to delivering what the fans are asking for!" - Dixie Carter

This is one of the funniest things I have ever read. You moved back to Thursday because if you didn't you would have been fucking canceled because WWE was raping the shit out of you in the ratings.

[kittensXLI]

“Our fans made it clear that they preferred the Thursday night time period. By moving to Thursdays, this is a win/win opportunity for both TNA and the fans. We are looking forward to delivering what the fans are asking for!" - Dixie Carter

This is one of the funniest things I have ever read. You moved back to Thursday because if you didn't you would have been fucking canceled because WWE was raping the shit out of you in the ratings.
:lol Clearly a crock of you know what.

[jackisback24]

Jack 4.3
Bo 4.1
K3N 3.8
Tony 3.6
Kitts 3.5/3.9

Is that everyone so far?

[K3nTaKa0s]

I'm glad Impact didn't end up like Superstars.

[BotheDMBFan]

I'm glad Impact didn't end up like Superstars.

I'm glad Superstars was the company's C-Tier show, and not the company's A-Show which considers pulling a 1.5 an astounding success.

[BotheDMBFan]

They pulled a .6 for an episode a couple weeks ago? Shit. (Source: Insidetvratings.com)

[kittensXLI]

:lol:lol:lol

[kittensXLI]

Jack 4.3
Bo 4.1
K3N 3.8
Tony 3.6
Kitts 3.5/3.9

Is that everyone so far?
Nah, I'm sure Rodey, Speil, JLY, etc will all (hopefully) be around sometime too.

[K3nTaKa0s]

They pulled a .6 for an episode a couple weeks ago? Shit. (Source: Insidetvratings.com)

Nevermind. I can't read.

[BotheDMBFan]

I haven't seen the ratings for the last episode, those were the most current ones I saw.

[jackisback24]

so will it be a 3-way dance? Hmmmmm.

http://www.wrestleview.com/viewnews.php?id=1301172737

[BotheDMBFan]

Site I'm looking at now said TNA pulled a .5

[K3nTaKa0s]

Site I'm looking at now said TNA pulled a .5

When? lol.

[kittensXLI]

Neilson Corporation offered to buy TNA in May 2005 for $10,000,000 USD from Panda Energy; however, Panda Energy expressed no interest. Morphoplex, a major TNA sponsor, offered Panda Energy $20,000,000 USD for the company later that month, which was also rejected.
:lol Wow.

[BotheDMBFan]

When? lol.

This was week, apparently. http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/03/25/thursday-cable-ratings-jersey-shore-finale-crushes-the-field-fairly-legal-steady-in-finale-archer-up-ncaa-hoops/87058

I looked at the wrong numbers, my apologies. 1.1 total, .5 for A18-49.

[K3nTaKa0s]

This was week, apparently. http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/03/25/thursday-cable-ratings-jersey-shore-finale-crushes-the-field-fairly-legal-steady-in-finale-archer-up-ncaa-hoops/87058

Impact did a 1.2 on Thursday.

[BotheDMBFan]

:lol Wow.

How much did Vince buy WCW for?

[kittensXLI]

How much did Vince buy WCW for?
I'm pretty sure multiple DVD footage said 2 million. But I have zero sources readily available.

[K3nTaKa0s]

I think it was somewhere in the 2-3 million range.

[kittensXLI]

leading to parent company AOL Time Warner selling the name copyrights to the WWF for $2.5 million in 2001. Shortly after the purchase, Vince McMahon purchased the entire tape library for an additional $1.7 million, bringing the final tally of World Championship Wrestling's sale to $4.2 million.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Championship_Wrestling#Legacy

[BotheDMBFan]

What a steal. I wonder if he ever had any plans to continue on WCW in a way, and just have it be a show on Wednesday or something.

[kittensXLI]

WCW seriously had to be so bad for no one else to offer that much money or more for the company + tape library.

[Speilmen230]

i'll go with a 4.0

i think that is a bit high. But whatever.

[K3nTaKa0s]

It's too bad Bischoff and his team didn't end up getting WCW.

[BotheDMBFan]

It's too bad Bischoff and his team didn't end up getting WCW.

Agreed. Although, Bisch seems like a pretty fucking terrible money guy too.

[kittensXLI]

Why? They already have WCW 2011 incase you haven't seen Impact in over a year.

[GrooGrux420]

http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/12/2350569_10_full.jpg

[Speilmen230]

She is the only reason he ever got over.

[kittensXLI]

Funny how the guy always posting weekly ratings in here is a fan of the show that has, what, 20 ratings of 1.3 or higher in it's history?

[K3nTaKa0s]

Funny how the guy always posting weekly ratings in here is a fan of the show that has, what, 20 ratings of 1.3 or higher in it's history?

I really don't know why you're obsessed with taking shots at me.

So.. because Impact doesn't do 3.0s every week, I shouldn't be a fan of the company?

[kittensXLI]

Uh, we were just talking about ratings in this thread...

You post Superstars trash ratings like anyone's supposed to either be surprised or care. And tacking Impact's next to them like the .05-.1 weekly differential matters.

For pretty much everyone in this thread, ratings have no baring on what anyone thinks of a product.

[K3nTaKa0s]

For pretty much everyone in this thread, ratings have no baring on what anyone thinks of a product.

Then why are you bringing up Impact's ratings?

Whenever I got the Impact ratings on PWInsider, the Impact and Superstars ratings were posted together. Since both are wrestling shows, I figured I'd post them.

I posted that the show was being cancelled. I thought that was worth posting on here.

I don't post Impact ratings to prove a point.

[Speilmen230]

The only time i ever hear talking about TV ratings is when it comes to Wrestling. Outside of that i never hear people talking about what rating their favorite show got.

[kittensXLI]

Then why are you bringing up Impact's ratings?

Whenever I got the Impact ratings on PWInsider, the Impact and Superstars ratings were posted together. Since both are wrestling shows, I figured I'd post them.

I posted that the show was being cancelled. I thought that was worth posting on here.

I don't post Impact ratings to prove a point.
Actually I didn't. Jack was curious to Raw rating predictions, and you and Bo were talking about Impact ratings.

When you hover around a 1.1 to 1.2 rating every...single...week, you're not growing, expanding, or likely improving.

Raw did a 3.3 this week? Must have bombed. Raw did a 3.8 this week? Was probably an okay show. Oh well, same old story. You roughly know what you're going to get. Unless you work for these companies or in television, the ratings are absolutely meaningless.

[K3nTaKa0s]

Raw lost 10% of its viewership on Monday from the week before. Maybe we need to talk about that.

[K3nTaKa0s]

When you hover around a 1.1 to 1.2 rating every...single...week, you're not growing, expanding, or likely improving.


Raw hovers around the low 3.0s most weeks. Does that mean they're not likely improving, growing, or expanding?

[kittensXLI]

Clearly the amount of viewership Raw or Impact or SD or Superstars or Reaction or a PPV or an online video gains or loses determines it's quality. You win K3nta.

[K3nTaKa0s]

You've always tried to make that point more than I.

[JacobLovesYou]

Raw lost 10% of its viewership on Monday from the week before. Maybe we need to talk about that.

we don't need to analyze that just like we won't need to analyze the spiked ratings RAW will get this monday. with a brand as big as the WWE it just happens.

[kittensXLI]

You've always tried to make that point more than I.
:lol:lol What!

[K3nTaKa0s]

"When you hover around a 1.1 to 1.2 rating every...single...week, you're not growing, expanding, or likely improving."

I thought ratings were absolutely meaningless? There's more to growing a brand than television ratings.

When have I ever come on here and said that WWE was dieing because their ratings haven't skyrocketed over a 5.0?

[K3nTaKa0s]

Honestly, I don't know what you're trying to tell me that I don't already know.

[kittensXLI]

To me, and the people in this thread, and everyone not working for a wrestling company or television company, yes, ratings are 100% meaningless. When you do work for a wrestling company or television company, changes in ratings will matter towards your growth or improvement.

Simple concept. You just want to twist words around.

And boy was I way off about Impact having 25 ratings of 1.3 or higher, or even floating around 1.2 per week. Last year alone they only did it 3 times, and barely averaged a 1.0 for the year :

http://www.wrestlingnewssource.com/x/rawvsimpactratings2010.php

and 9 before then :

http://www.twnpnews.com/information/TNA/tnaimpact.shtml

[K3nTaKa0s]

So, you don't think wresting news sites should be making a big deal out of show ratings and breaking down the quarter-hour ratings for every Impact?

[kittensXLI]

I don't care what wrestling news sites do, I'm not going to be reading ratings results.

omg the anderson/rvd/sting segment only got an x.y rating?! what happened?!?!?!

[K3nTaKa0s]

So... who do you guys think WCW would've gone with as the nWo "third man" if they decided to keep Hogan as a babyface? I think they would've had to go with more than a third man. Probably a third, fourth, and fifth man. Hogan was the only option at the time. I think Sting could've got the job done, only if Hogan never came to WCW to begin with.

[comerelaxnow]

So... who do you guys think WCW would've gone with as the nWo "third man" if they decided to keep Hogan as a babyface? I think they would've had to go with more than a third man. Probably a third, fourth, and fifth man. Hogan was the only option at the time. I think Sting could've got the job done, only if Hogan never came to WCW to begin with.

Flair...if done correctly that would have been cool

[K3nTaKa0s]

Yeah, it would've been sweet. But I think wherever Flair went, Anderson was going to follow.

[Doors Allan Coe]

Just got back from an NEW in Torrington CT.

Greats how! Sabu was late but Tommy Dreamer filled in! Sgt. Slaugher was awesome as usual. Matt Hardy and Maria were a blast!

www.northeastwrestling.com

check it out! These are seriously the best independent shows I know of. Check'em out! Robbie E! Cookie! Slaughter! Hardy! Maria! Dreamer! Sabu! How can you beat that?!?!

[GrooGrux420]

I have come to the conclusion, that Texas is #1 when it comes to producing talent:


Shawn Michaels
Stone Cold Steve Austin
Mark Calaway (aka Undertaker)
Eddie & Chavo Guerrero
John Bradshaw Layfield
Dusty Rhodes
Terry Funk
Dory Funk Sr. & Jr.
Booker T & Stevie Ray
Von Erich Family
Mark Henry (in no top lists, but been a fan favorite forever)

HBK, Taker and Austin are arguably the top 3 of all time.

[BotheDMBFan]

I'd give that to Calgary area Canada or Hokkadio, Japan before I would Texas; although it's up there.

[jackisback24]

I have come to the conclusion, that Texas is #1 when it comes to producing talent:


Shawn Michaels
Stone Cold Steve Austin
Mark Calaway (aka Undertaker)
Eddie & Chavo Guerrero
John Bradshaw Layfield
Dusty Rhodes
Terry Funk
Dory Funk Sr. & Jr.
Booker T & Stevie Ray
Von Erich Family
Mark Henry (in no top lists, but been a fan favorite forever)

HBK, Taker and Austin are arguably the top 3 of all time.

Tully Blanchard, Stan Hansen, Barry Windham, promoters Paul Boesch, Joe Blanchard, Fritz, Jim Crockett Jr. and I believe Bruiser Brody and Gino Hernandez are among countless others who were in Texas at one point.

[jackisback24]

Jack 4.3
Bo 4.1
Speilman 4.0
K3N 3.8
Tony 3.6
Kitts 3.5/3.9

Is that everyone so far?

Jack 4.3
Bo 4.1
Speilman 4.0
K3N 3.8
Tony 3.6
Kitts 3.5/3.9

[jackisback24]

funny how dead this thread is today when tomorrow night I'm going to bet that the average post in this thread will happen every 14 seconds.:lol

[GrooGrux420]

Jack 4.3
Bo 4.1
Speilman 4.0
K3N 3.8
Tony 3.6
Kitts 3.5/3.9
McBong 3.7

Updated with my picks. I don't think the ratings will hit 4.0 unless they spread out the show and time it well. However, I just don't see that happening. Will probably 3.9 when Rock is on, and then go back down to 3.6 when he is off. Go home shows generally suck when it comes to actual content.

[Speilmen230]

probably going to miss a good majority of the live broadcast tomorrow night. gonna be finishing up a screenplay with a buddy of mine. Hopefully we don't go too late so i can watch it later that night off the DVR and not have to wait til tuesday.

[JacobLovesYou]

yeah i coach high school baseball and we're on the road tomorrow night so i might be able to watch the recording tomorrow night, but it might have to wait until tuesday morning

[jackisback24]

less than 24 hours away.

http://www.wrestleview.com/viewnews.php?id=1301265075

[kittensXLI]

less than 24 hours away.

http://www.wrestleview.com/viewnews.php?id=1301265075
As it should be.

[ProphetofJit]

I completely agree. Title matches should be the main event, unless it's an awesome stipulation match like Iron Man, or career vs. Streak .......

Whereas I'm excited to see a NHB Taker Haitch match, I don't think it should be main eventing WM ...

I'm pretty excited to watch RAW, and then I'll find some way to watch WM

[Speilmen230]

I think if you put Taker/HHH as the second to last match, it takes the pressure off those two to really bring it home. They are now in a position to steal the show like HBK/Taker did at WM 25.

[kittensXLI]

http://www.whosay.com/DwayneJohnson/photos/17408?code=PAhc9L

[Speilmen230]

I think tomorrow night is going to be a fun night.

[kittensXLI]

Will there be a Rock Bottom and/or People's Elbow tomorrow night? What about a Smackdown layed?

[Speilmen230]

I gotta go with Miz, Rock, & Cena all being in the ring together GM saying that rock will be special guest Ref. then rock looks at the both of them, then hits a double Rock Bottom on both.

[comerelaxnow]

Can't wait to go see Raw tomorrow night at the Arena. The tickets for the show says it starts at 6:45pm. I wonder what they are doing. When Kittens is typing how everything is "terrible" and "pathetic", i will be there live enjoying every second of it

[K3nTaKa0s]

-WrestleZone's Nick Paglino reported a few days ago that Vince McMahon has decided to go with Josh Matthews and Booker T as the main announce team at the start of WrestleMania, but then move Jim Ross in for the final three matches.

[comerelaxnow]

-WrestleZone's Nick Paglino reported a few days ago that Vince McMahon has decided to go with Josh Matthews and Booker T as the main announce team at the start of WrestleMania, but then move Jim Ross in for the final three matches.

Why not just have Jim Ross there the entire time?

[Speilmen230]

Awesome news! I wish it was Matthews and Stryker but i guess they have to throw Book a bone and give him some experience on the big stage. I am a huge Stryker fan so i am pretty bummed out about him getting thrown into the dog house like this, but Ross is always a plus.

Ross/Stryker would make a great team IMO.

[kittensXLI]

Stryker is butt dude. So is Booker, but at least people like him more than Stryker.

Josh Matthews getting the call is fantastic.

[GrooGrux420]

Can't wait to go see Raw tomorrow night at the Arena. The tickets for the show says it starts at 6:45pm. I wonder what they are doing. When Kittens is typing how everything is "terrible" and "pathetic", i will be there live enjoying every second of it

They start at 6:45 and do a match or two before Raw actually starts (usually a dark match and then a match for Superstars). Sin Cara did some Raw house shows this weekend, so I be wouldn't be surprised if they put him in the dark match. They did the same thing with Del Rio. They had him doing dark matches for Smackdown for like a month or so when his build up vignettes were running.

Where are you sitting tomorrow?

[BotheDMBFan]

Sin Cara is going to rule.

[kittensXLI]

The people who think he's Rey 2.0 make me laugh. He's going to be better than Rey ever was.

[BotheDMBFan]

The people who think he's Rey 2.0 make me laugh. He's going to be better than Rey ever was.

Sin has a much better moveset.

[GrooGrux420]

The people who think he's Rey 2.0 make me laugh. He's going to be better than Rey ever was.

He will, if he can stay healthy and WWE pushes him properly.

[jackisback24]

Stryker is butt dude. So is Booker, but at least people like him more than Stryker.

Josh Matthews getting the call is fantastic.
Hard to believe that Matthews was on Tough Enough at one time.

[Rodey]

Will there be a Rock Bottom and/or People's Elbow tomorrow night? What about a Smackdown layed?

I hope so! :multi:bounce:multi:bounce

[Rodey]

Stryker is butt dude. So is Booker, but at least people like him more than Stryker.

Josh Matthews getting the call is fantastic.

Booker T is so bad that he's good. I love listening to him because of how awful he is.

[K3nTaKa0s]

Yeah, I don't think Booker T is ready to call Wrestlemania matches.

[jackisback24]

http://www.popthecrowd.com/news/popthecrowd.com-exclusive-photo-snooki-and-trish-stratus-posing-with-their-wrestlemania-opponents-lay-cool.html

[jackisback24]

"The goal was to come back in a big, powerful way," he said. "My return has been years of strategizing with Vince McMahon."





Johnson appears in the movie, "Fast Five," which opens April 29, and he recently wrapped filming on "Journey 2: The Mysterious Island," the sequel to "Journey to the Center of the Earth." He pushed back the start date of his next movie so he could stick around the WWE -- and just maybe wrestle again.
"I've never said never. I'm open to it," he said. "For years when I was asked that, I kept my emotions very close to my sleeve. I would say, 'No, I don't see myself wrestling a match,' because I didn't want to leave that open too much. I wanted to make sure I was concentrating solely on my goals in acting."
He believes he can handle the acting-wrestling tag-team combo from here on out and dropped enough hints that he'll be landing "The People's Elbow" well beyond Wrestlemania.
"It's 'The People's Era' that's getting ready to happen," he said. "It's just beginning."




http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/182802/4/Dwayne-The-Rock-Johnson-sets-his-focus-on-WWE

[comerelaxnow]

They start at 6:45 and do a match or two before Raw actually starts (usually a dark match and then a match for Superstars). Sin Cara did some Raw house shows this weekend, so I be wouldn't be surprised if they put him in the dark match. They did the same thing with Del Rio. They had him doing dark matches for Smackdown for like a month or so when his build up vignettes were running.

Where are you sitting tomorrow?

On the side of the ring about 20 rows back. Not in camera view.

HBK tweeted saying something about how Cold it is and he was on Chicago radio this morning. Oh man if i get to see HBK the final time before he goes into the HOF i will mark out bad!

[jackisback24]

On the side of the ring about 20 rows back. Not in camera view.

HBK tweeted saying something about how Cold it is and he was on Chicago radio this morning. Oh man if i get to see HBK the final time before he goes into the HOF i will mark out bad!
They always advertise TV tapings early so that they can get fans in their seats so the crowd looks full for television. Plus gives newcomers time to hone their skills in front of a live crowd.

[GrooGrux420]

On the side of the ring about 20 rows back. Not in camera view.

HBK tweeted saying something about how Cold it is and he was on Chicago radio this morning. Oh man if i get to see HBK the final time before he goes into the HOF i will mark out bad!

I wouldn't put much into that, he's done other radio interviews through out last week. Final Wrestlemania media push.

On another note, the reason why, I asked is because I remember you said you were sitting close to ringside. As I found out the last time, the sound absolutely blows the closer you are to the ring. You're far out enough where you should be fine.

[jackisback24]

Jericho on the Gayle King show soon. Did he already get eliminated?

http://www.interbridge.com/lineups.html

[GrooGrux420]

Here is the preview for tonight:

Tonight is the final episode of WWE RAW before Sunday’s WrestleMania 27 pay-per-view. RAW takes place from the sold out Allstate Arena in Chicago and will feature a a live in-person appearance from The Rock. Here’s what’s advertised for tonight’s show:

A showdown between The Rock, The Miz and John Cena before this Sunday’s WWE Championship match featuring the latter two stars; Triple H and The Undertaker will go face-to-face to hype their big showdown on Sunday; Trish Stratus, Snooki, Layla and Michelle McCool will have a segment which was taped last week at a bar.

The dark match main event that will take place after RAW will see Edge, Triple H, John Cena and Randy Orton team up against Wade Barrett, The Miz, CM Punk and Alberto Del Rio.

[jackisback24]

My feeling on Rock is that he would do wrestling if he could fit it in w/movies and not take any heavy bumping. I could see a SummerSlam build, but 4 months of build might be too long.

[GrooGrux420]

My feeling on Rock is that he would do wrestling if he could fit it in w/movies and not take any heavy bumping. I could see a SummerSlam build, but 4 months of build might be too long.

Not at all. Remember Sting's build-up with Hogan/NWO? He wrestled like 5 times for an entire year.

[jackisback24]

Not at all. Remember Sting's build-up with Hogan/NWO? He wrestled like 5 times for an entire year.
They had Sting in the rafters, but Hogan had run through all the big names on Nitro until he got to Sting. I don't know how they can get to August without maybe doing an injury angle and the competitor comes back in July to shoot an angle/promo to build for August. That would work. But just weekly promos until August would get old.

[K3nTaKa0s]

Yeah.. Even though he wasn't wrestling, Sting was actually appearing on Nitro almost every week.

[K3nTaKa0s]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEVyTLkk1vk

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

[GrooGrux420]

They had Sting in the rafters, but Hogan had run through all the big names on Nitro until he got to Sting. I don't know how they can get to August without maybe doing an injury angle and the competitor comes back in July to shoot an angle/promo to build for August. That would work. But just weekly promos until August would get old.

Yeah.. Even though he wasn't wrestling, Sting was actually appearing on Nitro almost every week.

That they did, but like someone else said, you can have him still on the show as a character without having him present every Raw. Really for his character to be relevant he would only need to show up every other Raw or so (maybe do some back to backs, and skip a week or two). However, it seems like casual fan base doesn't care much for bi-weekly satellite appearances (case in point the past few weeks with ratings slightly dropping each week).

[GrooGrux420]

On the side of the ring about 20 rows back. Not in camera view.

HBK tweeted saying something about how Cold it is and he was on Chicago radio this morning. Oh man if i get to see HBK the final time before he goes into the HOF i will mark out bad!

It dawned on me why HBK said it was cold out. A cold front hit here in San Antonio, and is currently 66 degrees (hitting 55 this morning), which is cold compared to the upper 80s we normally get around this time.

[K3nTaKa0s]

If you read it on the Internet, it must be true....

------------

This Michael Cole incident on Twitter has brought to the forefront a fact that hasn't gotten a lot of play - that being that Cole's ego has gotten out of control behind the scenes in recent months. There have been reports of Cole having tremendous locker room heat. One WWE source today gives us his opinion on Cole behind the scenes.

"Is Cole getting a big head? HELL YES," he says. "Ever since he was reading the GM e-mails he started begging to become GM (he doesn't know who it's supposed to be) and walks around like his sh-- doesn't stink. He has an opinion on everything."

He also has mouthed off to writers who hand him scripts, saying that he'll say whatever the hell he wants. Sources say Cole's on-air character has gone to his head and what you see on TV is what he has become behind the scenes.

Source: Torch

[GrooGrux420]

If you read it on the Internet, it must be true....

------------

This Michael Cole incident on Twitter has brought to the forefront a fact that hasn't gotten a lot of play - that being that Cole's ego has gotten out of control behind the scenes in recent months. There have been reports of Cole having tremendous locker room heat. One WWE source today gives us his opinion on Cole behind the scenes.

"Is Cole getting a big head? HELL YES," he says. "Ever since he was reading the GM e-mails he started begging to become GM (he doesn't know who it's supposed to be) and walks around like his sh-- doesn't stink. He has an opinion on everything."

He also has mouthed off to writers who hand him scripts, saying that he'll say whatever the hell he wants. Sources say Cole's on-air character has gone to his head and what you see on TV is what he has become behind the scenes.

Source: Torch

I always heard he was a douche behind the scenes (even before the GM thing), but that report seems like a work.

[kittensXLI]

They should fire him. You all know where he'd go, though.

[jackisback24]

Will he apologize to Matthews tonight?

[jackisback24]

Alvarez is a geek but it's free.

http://www.f4wonline.com/content/view/20012/

[kittensXLI]

I'd never pay money to read f4w or Wrestling Observer or hear other people's opinions on wrestling. Beyond idiotic.

[K3nTaKa0s]

The 3/25 edition of Smackdown did a 1.96 rating with 2,987,000 viewers.

[jackisback24]

I'd never pay money to read f4w or Wrestling Observer or hear other people's opinions on wrestling. Beyond idiotic.
I've been reading the Observer off and on for 20 years and I find it to be good stuff, especially the autobiographies. He knows his shit and the stories are really good. The auto of Curtis Iaukea was awesome.

[kittensXLI]

What autobiographies? I also consider abs different than just news and facts reported.

[jackisback24]

What autobiographies? I also consider abs different than just news and facts reported.
sorry, meant bios. I've been reading so many autos of late that I have them on my mind.

No, the biographies of deceased wrestlers are always good cause Meltzer gets good stories that most don't know. There was a good story, for instance of Curtis Iaukea setting up a surf shop on the beaches of Wai Kee Kee in Hawaii and how someone complained. Well they tried (the cops) to take him off the beaches, he gigged himself and threatened to sue if they didn't put him down, claiming the cops injured him and he was going to sue the resorts that his shop was in front of, and so as a sort of settlement the resort who complained about him let him continue to run his shop in front of their stores.

You get cute anecdotal stories that you don't get anywhere else.

[jackisback24]

Curt Hennig would have turned 53 today. Umaga would have turned 38. (thanks to Matt Schreiner)

[jackisback24]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uzNYHOAvRk

[Matt83]

http://i.imgur.com/1EpyX.gif

[kittensXLI]

That about sums up Cena's skillset perfectly.

[jackisback24]

http://www.wrestleview.com/viewnews.php?id=1301356271

Brock talks Undertaker at 7min mark.

[gonz085]

jackisback24, you got a live stream feed for tonight? or anyone? Thank you in advanced.

[jackisback24]

jackisback24, you got a live stream feed for tonight? or anyone? Thank you in advanced.
it's gotta be on JustinTV, no doubt. Follow the live TV prompts.

[gonz085]

it's gotta be on JustinTV, no doubt. Follow the live TV prompts.

thank you sir.

[kittensXLI]

Okay here comes Jericho's 2nd dance.

[kittensXLI]

Fantastic dance tonight.

[jackisback24]

that was okay. They keep showing his wife, kid and Maryse in the crowd.

[kittensXLI]

that was okay. They keep showing his wife, kid and Maryse in the crowd.
Of all the dances I've seen in the last 2 weeks, his tonight was the best of them all.

And his wife and Maryse are hott. Last week my girl Brie was there to cheer him on.

:hump

[jackisback24]

Of all the dances I've seen in the last 2 weeks, his tonight was the best of them all.

And his wife and Maryse are hott. Last week my girl Brie was there to cheer him on.

:hump
for a minute I thought you meant you had a daughter.:lol

[kittensXLI]

for a minute I thought you meant you had a daughter.:lol
:lol No thank God no.

<------- Brie

[jackisback24]

Okay, so Must Cena TV is almost on. Do they start right away with Rock/Cena? Someone on the radio in the other post made a good point that Miz might shove Cena into Rock to create heat.

This guy was a killer heel on TV and now smarming it up for votes. Amazing.

[Rodey]

Of all the dances I've seen in the last 2 weeks, his tonight was the best of them all.

And his wife and Maryse are hott. Last week my girl Brie was there to cheer him on.

:hump

Maryse is so gorgeous. I <3 her.

[jackisback24]

Maryse is so gorgeous. I <3 her.
Don't tell Megan. Shhhh.

[Rodey]

Don't tell Megan. Shhhh.

Megan's down with it. We're gonna have a threesome.

/dream

[kittensXLI]

Maryse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poop > Megan

[jackisback24]

and here

we


go

[kittensXLI]

I'll take 3.5 for the sake of it.

[ProphetofJit]

I'll go 4.1 ..... why the hell not

[shoegal_97]

The Legend Killer....

[kittensXLI]

CM Punk is the best.

[Rodey]

Maryse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poop > Megan

Go hang out with the Horse Twins.

[kittensXLI]

Go hang out with the Horse Twins.
Horse Twins? Good Lord you are certifiably insane.

[Rodey]

Horse Twins? Good Lord you are certifiably insane.

No, you are. The Bella's are not that attractive.

[shoegal_97]

I've been away from wrestling for a while...don't remember CM Punk at all.

[GrooGrux420]

I've been away from wrestling for a while...don't remember CM Punk at all.

CM Punk is one of the best in the business right now. :thumbsup

[shoegal_97]

What did he just do to Orton, Holy Shizite

[GrooGrux420]

What did he just do to Orton, Holy Shizite

I assume you are talking about this finisher, the GTS (Go to Sleep)? It's a pretty sweet move. :thumbsup

[kittensXLI]

Honestly, not a fan of GTS.

E&C unreal.

[Rodey]

Yeah I don't really like GTS that much either. Not one of the better finishers.

[Speilmen230]

Christian needs a push in the worst way. He is so damn good. He has earned it.

[Rodey]

I mark so hard for Del Rio!!!

[GrooGrux420]

Honestly, not a fan of GTS.

E&C unreal.

Yeah I don't really like GTS that much either. Not one of the better finishers.

Really? I like it.

[Speilmen230]

"one of the best tag teams in ENTERTAINMENT history".


are you kidding me? for fucks sake.

next year it is going to be called EntertainmentMania

[ant_marching41]

Honestly, not a fan of GTS.

E&C unreal.
GTS would be a good move if it didn't come off really fake.

Great match to kick off Raw. Should have been a mid card match at least.

[kittensXLI]

Brodus Clay is freaking atrocious. God I wish he didn't exist.

[GrooGrux420]

You can tell this is a taped show. Hardly any pyro tonight.

[Speilmen230]

why did they stick his big fat ass with ADR?

[GrooGrux420]

Brodus Clay's man tits are freaking atrocious. God I wish they didn't exist.

Fixed. :banned