Ultimate Fighting/MMA

[HolyCow]

Apologies if there is another thread...searched and got nothing

I myself am a huge Mixed Martial Arts fan, especially Ultimate Fighting. I hope somebody else out there is too. First, do you watch the "Ultimate Fighter" the show on spike and second, are you as pumped for Liddell-Couture part II as me and who do you think will win? Decision, KO, or TO?

[Tyggress]

My company distributes the DVDs of these fights...but I don't watch them myself. :shrug

[HolyCow]

That's awesome! I own Knockout 1,2,3....you should watch em...good stuff. Modern day gladiators

[ExistenceNow]

I was reading this article about an Ultimate Fighting type thing... an ex Redskin football player was going to fight in it... can't remember the name just now.. but it was something stupid like king of the ring... but i know they said they fight in the same style octagon as UFC...

[HolyCow]

It was Michael Westbrook. Don't know if he won or not. I think it was called "King of the Cage". The minor leagues if you will. I saw it on Cold Pizza.

[FPrefect61]

I'll admit, I watch the Ultimate Fighter on Spike. :)

[ExistenceNow]

It was Michael Westbrook. Don't know if he won or not. I think it was called "King of the Cage". The minor leagues if you will. I saw it on Cold Pizza.

king of the cage.. that's right.... I also saw it on Cold Pizza... from the clip of him beatin the shit out of his teammate, seems as though he might be able to fuck some shit up.. if only in the minors...

[DBTpig5]

I love the UFC, but I didn't know it came on spike. When I was deployed last yr I got to follow it when Ortiz was undefeated and then lost to Coutor (I think thats his name) well I just got to catch it a little while ago and say Ortiz lose to Liddell!!! I couldn't believe it!! I feel I've missed so much, what times does it come on Spike?

[HolyCow]

Monday nights at 10 CST. Its a show kind of like "the apprentice" or american idol but UFC style. The show rules. Every show ends with two guys going into the octagon, loser goes home. I was totally pulling for Nate Quarry but he got hurt. I think I am going for Mike Swick now. But yeah, Liddell knocked Ortiz out early in the second round with a flurry of jabs and hooks. Couture-Liddell fight April 16th for the Light heavyweight title. Probably the most anticipated rematch of all time. I like Couture to win just because he is the most technically sound fighter there is but Liddell just needs a small opening to KO Couture. Great fight.

[HolyCow]

Anyone watch the fights last night?

And Shamrock and Franklin will fight before the show finals this Saturday

[Hudak-Budak]

I used to be a big fan, but like wrestling, it just lost my interest. I like the old school guys...or as old school as you can get, really...Royce Gracie, Ken Shamrock, Dan Severn, Tank Abbott... www.sherdog.com has (or used to have) 3-5 minute highlight clips of about 20 different fighters, they're all great to watch.

[HolyCow]

They still do. i go there sometimes to watch them. They have some incredible Vitor Belfort clips.

I love it. The ability of these guys is just amazing. And nothing is as cool as a good KO

[Hudak-Budak]

They still do. i go there sometimes to watch them. They have some incredible Vitor Belfort clips.

I love it. The ability of these guys is just amazing. And nothing is as cool as a good KO

Submissions were always my favorite.

[HolyCow]

Best submission is a classic armbar.

[Hudak-Budak]

Best submission is a classic armbar.

After watching wrestling for so long, I was thinking "Armbar? That's nothing." Then I actually got put in to one, and changed my tune.

[HolyCow]

yeah, my best friends older brother took brazilian jiu-jitsu...he put me in one and I almost cried. He also choked me out, that was really weird

[barefoot]

I like UFC however I am a little partial to Pride, both are excellent though.

[gregory311]

Every time I watch it the fights are boring and end up in submission holds or guys trying to get other guys in submission holds. I'll have to check it out again as I have enjoyed it in the past. I'm not sure if it's banned in my area but I do know past events have been cancelled at the last minute and shipped elsewhere. People suck.

J.

[HolyCow]

Well, once again, I think I am the only fan around here, but after losing to Chuck Liddell again, one of the all time greats, Randy Couture, has decided to call it quits.

A sad day for MMA and the UFC. He was one of the best in the business. I still have Matt Hughes and Andrei Arlovski to root for.

[Hudak-Budak]

I was told once I looked like Arlovski.



Also, Genki Sudo is one of the best I've seen. That guy is awesome.

[sk4sports86]

Chuck is gonna pull through with a KO in the 3rd Round...

But im more pumped for the Royce Gracie vs. Matt Hughes.

Matt Hughes is my favorite of all time and even against an intimidating opponent like Gracie, I gotta root for Hughes.

[RustNeverSleeps]

Can't wait for Ultimate Fighter 3. Anyone know what weight classes are going to be featured?

Gracie vs Hughes is gonna be awesome.

And Couture has gone the way of k.shamrock...washed up.

[HolyCow]

Can't wait for Ultimate Fighter 3. Anyone know what weight classes are going to be featured?

Gracie vs Hughes is gonna be awesome.

And Couture has gone the way of k.shamrock...washed up.

Matt Hughes is going to put Royce to sleep. It is a publicity stunt and Royce has no shot. Matt Hughes is the most complete fighter in the world.

And Couture didn't go out like Shamrock. Couture lost his last 2 out of 3, the two coming against maybe the greatest champion of all time....If Couture would have hung around and lost to another person, then I would agree.

[dave1399fan]

I'm a huge fan. We had the pay per view at our house. We generally throw a party anytime there is something on pay per view. I watch the UFC reality show as well.

Up until 3-4 months ago I was taking MMA classes(screwed up my neck/back). I'm hoping to get healthy here in the next month and get back at it. I'm not sure if I will ever fight in the octagon, but it is a great work out and it is fun. The guy that teaches our class in Des Moines has been on 2 UFC events. Josh "The Dentist" Neer was on the most recent Fight Night and he also fought Drew Fickett in UFC 40-something.

I am absolutley fired up about the Matt Hughes vs. Royce Gracie fight. It will be interesting to see if Wesley Snipes and Joe Rogan get in the octagon as well.

[HolyCow]

Well, Ultimate Fighter season 3 kicks off tonight.

Tito Ortiz and Kenny Shamrock absolutely HATE each other. Shamrock is planning a comeback against Tito. This season promises to be awesome.

[FrankTheTank]

what channel

[HolyCow]

what channel
Spike.

[FrankTheTank]

this is gonna be awesome


wow i didn't realize how much ortiz kicked the shit out of shamrock until they showed those highlights

[twk13]

oh man, the octagon

[jmhawk1]

an old employee of mine is in this season...noah inhofer. i will be watching tonight!!!

btw, didn't think he was a big guy. scrappy, but not big. hell of a salesman, though.

[twk13]

my old wrestling coach was an ultimate fighter

[jmhawk1]

here's my old employee!

http://yankton.net/stories/040106/sports_20060401001.shtml

[HolyCow]

this is gonna be awesome


wow i didn't realize how much ortiz kicked the shit out of shamrock until they showed those highlights
Shamrock was fighting with torn ligaments in his knee though.

Ken is washed up, but he is way cooler that Tito.

My early favorites:
Michael Busping (the Australian)
Matt Hamnil (deaf guy)
The black guy on Shamrocks team

[FrankTheTank]

i hope the guy that got his eyebrow shaved gets his shit kicked in.

preferably by the crazy redhead, who then proceeds to get destroyed by someone else.

[twk13]

here's my old employee!

http://yankton.net/stories/040106/sports_20060401001.shtmldidn't get anything

[SteelerMan]

I'm just getting into UFC. I've watched a few random Unleashed shows over the past year, the finale of Ultimate Fighter (was shocked to see Shamrock get his ass handed to him... I had forgotten how old he was), and I caught the premier of season 3 of Ultimate Fighter.

My biggest complaint is that there seem to be too many fighters and no way to really get to know them. My understanding is that the only shows on Spike are Unleashed, which are actually old matches, and Ultimate Fighter. I think the UFC needs to take a cue from professional wrestling and have a weekly live show, which would give newcomers like me a chance to really get to know these guys and see them on a regular basis. I can't/won't shell out the money for the PPV's, so it's a little tough to get into it. Any recommendations?

As for Ultimate Fighter 3, my favorites are the deaf guy and the crazy redheaded guy.

[HolyCow]

I'm just getting into UFC. I've watched a few random Unleashed shows over the past year, the finale of Ultimate Fighter (was shocked to see Shamrock get his ass handed to him... I had forgotten how old he was), and I caught the premier of season 3 of Ultimate Fighter.

My biggest complaint is that there seem to be too many fighters and no way to really get to know them. My understanding is that the only shows on Spike are Unleashed, which are actually old matches, and Ultimate Fighter. I think the UFC needs to take a cue from professional wrestling and have a weekly live show, which would give newcomers like me a chance to really get to know these guys and see them on a regular basis. I can't/won't shell out the money for the PPV's, so it's a little tough to get into it. Any recommendations?

As for Ultimate Fighter 3, my favorites are the deaf guy and the crazy redheaded guy.


I have been a solid fan for about 5 or 6 years now. So I have become attached to quite a few guys. Once you start following it, you will pick out your favorites from each weight class and hook on to a few guys.

My favorite of all time is Randy Couture. Native Oklahoman and a great.
Current favorite is Matt Hughes. Iowa farmboy that is unstoppable.

The you have guys like Vitor Belfort, Tito Ortiz, Anrdei Arlovski, Tim Sylvia, Chuck Liddell, Georges St. Pierre, Evan Tanner and so on...

Check out Knockouts 1,2 and 3. Or pick up a UFC PPV on DVD at Blockbuster. Get one with a couple of big name fights on it.

It is sort of like boxing. It isn't like WWF because guys have to train for each fight. They spend a month or two preparing for a title fight or whatnot. Keep in mind, this is REAL stuff, unlike the WWF.

When you watch a PPV, get 10 or 15 friends over, split the cost and watch it as a group. UFC Fight nights are huge events for me and my friends.

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

The biggest fight of the year so far will take place next week. Sylvia vs Arlovski should be a very exciting fight to watch. I like Forrest but he doesn't stand a chance against Ortiz. That Royce Gracie fight should be interesting as well because you are looking at two of the best grapplers in the MMA world. I wonder what the over/under is for punches thrown for that fight?

[HolyCow]

The UFC has gained a ton of popularity, but Pride is still very awesome. Pride has some of the WORLD'S best. The UFC doesn't bring all of those in.

Arlovski will tear Sylvia up I think. And I have a feeling the Griffin is going to give Tito a run.

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

The UFC has gained a ton of popularity, but Pride is still very awesome. Pride has some of the WORLD'S best. The UFC doesn't bring all of those in.

Arlovski will tear Sylvia up I think. And I have a feeling the Griffin is going to give Tito a run.


PRIDE is alright. If you want to compare who's got the better fighters, it's the UFC. Case in point. Mark Coleman, did alright in UFC, got emabarassignly knocked out by a kick to the face, goes to PRIDE and wins their first Grand Prix. Comes back to UFC, loses, and is never heard from again. Also, Jeremy Horn. Dude got knocked out left and right at every fight in the UFC. Goes to PRIDE, makes a name for himself, comes back to UFC, gets knocked out in the first round. PRIDE also signs UFC throw-aways, like Tank Abbott, Vitor Belfor, and Phil Baroni. I'm not saying PRIDE doesn't have good fighters, it's just the cream of the crop is in UFC.

[Hudak-Budak]

I watched a Pride PPV a few months ago and was bored to tears. I forget which one it was, but 3/4 of it were the guys wrapping up on the mat, not moving, and having to be broken up. I fast-forwarded through almost half of it.

[Alazais]

I was training for the Worlds Martial Arts Tourney in 07. Fell out about a year ago and it now seems a pipe dream.. But I love watching UFC they sure can fight.

[HolyCow]

PRIDE is alright. If you want to compare who's got the better fighters, it's the UFC. Case in point. Mark Coleman, did alright in UFC, got emabarassignly knocked out by a kick to the face, goes to PRIDE and wins their first Grand Prix. Comes back to UFC, loses, and is never heard from again. Also, Jeremy Horn. Dude got knocked out left and right at every fight in the UFC. Goes to PRIDE, makes a name for himself, comes back to UFC, gets knocked out in the first round. PRIDE also signs UFC throw-aways, like Tank Abbott, Vitor Belfor, and Phil Baroni. I'm not saying PRIDE doesn't have good fighters, it's just the cream of the crop is in UFC.

I think the UFC is the absolute best, don't get me wrong. But Pride has some solid fighters (Rampage Jackson, Krokop, Vanderlay Silva.)

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

I watched a Pride PPV a few months ago and was bored to tears. I forget which one it was, but 3/4 of it were the guys wrapping up on the mat, not moving, and having to be broken up. I fast-forwarded through almost half of it.

They do have some good fighters. Fedor Emelianko, Wanderlei Silva is bad ass, Ouintin Jackson, Marco Cro-cop. They were going to do a best of UFC vs Pride, and it was almost a done deal till it all fell apart. If either side would have lost that night, it would look bad for the losing company so it was squashed.

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

I think the UFC is the absolute best, don't get me wrong. But Pride has some solid fighters (Rampage Jackson, Krokop, Vanderlay Silva.)


HA HA. I was just giving those dudes their respect. They are good fighters. I would like to see Silva come to the ufc. Jackson was suppose to come and fight Liddell but that never panned out.

[Hudak-Budak]

I do like Wanderlei Silva, but I didn't see enough in that one PPV to get me to come back and watch again.

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

Does anyone ever know why Asian fighters never do well in the UFC? There has never been a dominate asian UFC fighter. You think it's because they don't pack on enough muscle? Training? I know Royce Gracie wasn't built and he beat up a lot of people, but he also made his name in the UFC when all they had was half-ass fighters, shamrock not included. Oh and Kimo, but that's debatable.

[malonestar]

You need to watch this: http://www.johnheffron.com/html/av/av.html

[HolyCow]

Does anyone ever know why Asian fighters never do well in the UFC? There has never been a dominate asian UFC fighter. You think it's because they don't pack on enough muscle? Training? I know Royce Gracie wasn't built and he beat up a lot of people, but he also made his name in the UFC when all they had was half-ass fighters, shamrock not included. Oh and Kimo, but that's debatable.

That is a really good question. Tsuyoshi Kosaka was ok...

I think it because they don't fight with any braun. They are too flashy, and don't scrap enough.

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

That is a really good question. Tsuyoshi Kosaka was ok...

I think it because they don't fight with any braun. They are too flashy, and don't scrap enough.

Caol Uno had a promising career in the UFC....until he fough BJ Penn. That was one of the greatest KO's I've ever seen in the UFC. That and the time Ortiz broke Evan Tanner's jaw in AC. I was there and they did a tight close-up on his face when he got knocked out and you could see his jaw was broke. When his face came up on the screen, the whole crowd let out one big collective "DAMN!!" HA HA HA.

[HolyCow]

Caol Uno had a promising career in the UFC....until he fough BJ Penn. That was one of the greatest KO's I've ever seen in the UFC. That and the time Ortiz broke Evan Tanner's jaw in AC. I was there and they did a tight close-up on his face when he got knocked out and you could see his jaw was broke. When his face came up on the screen, the whole crowd let out one big collective "DAMN!!" HA HA HA.
The Uno knockout is so funny, because Caol goes out after like the second punch. And Penn is just drilling him and Uno's hair is flopping around.

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

The Uno knockout is so funny, because Caol goes out after like the second punch. And Penn is just drilling him and Uno's hair is flopping around.


Shouldn't have tried that flying bullshit against someone like Penn. And then Penn just hopped the fence and ran back to the dressing rooms. Classic.

[dmbphan041]

which do you prefer? Pride or UFC

[HolyCow]

UFC, no doubt. Pride is great, but UFC is like the Big Leagues and PRIDE is Triple A.

[MoBb]

Georges St. Pierre's the man! Started watching a year ago, and I've been downloading alot of matches -- including UFC 1,2,3 etc. I'm just glad they put on some gloves and cleaned up some of the craziest rules. The matches ended way too fast in the early days from what I've seen.

Did anyone see the Rich Franklin type profile episode recently on Spike? Forgot the name of the new show, but it lets fans get to know the fighters better, where they follow them through a whole day of training and goofin' around. Franklin was first up, and his training program was fucking nuts!

Anyway, good to see a MMA-thread on the forum. :)

[SteelerMan]

I've been downloading alot of matches -- including UFC 1,2,3 etc.

Where do you download these? And is it legal?

[MoBb]

Where do you download these? And is it legal?

Probably not legal, but it's TV-rips for the most part, so I really couldn't care less. But you might want to be a bit more careful though, considering your location. They're just going after the big fish over here. For now.. :rolleyes

www.thepiratebay.com
www.torrentspy.com
www.mininova.org

uhm, just use www.torrents.to - which should cover it.

[FrankTheTank]

i can't wait for ultimate fighter tonight


from the previews it looks like the deaf kid might be fighting tonight

[HolyCow]

i can't wait for ultimate fighter tonight


from the previews it looks like the deaf kid might be fighting tonight

I hope he wins too.

[HolyCow]

DISCLAIMER: We both know this will never happen, it was just and idea.

My best friend and I developed a new system for the UFC. It goes by basically college wrestling standards.

Take each camp, (Lion's Den, Team Quest, Militich, American Top Team and so on...) and form a league. Then schedule it like the NFL. Each week, you fight another camp, slotting in your top man at each weight. Your best lightwight, middleweight, heavyweight etc...

You'd score 4 points for a victory, 6 for a unanimous decision, and 8 for a TKO or submission.

Of course they will be injuries and fatigue, so that is where solid backups would be important. Then, at the end of the year, the top 4 teams advance to the playoffs. Also, the top 4 guys from each class (best season records) would also advance to an individual playoffs.

Individual playoffs would be two weeks after team so that guys could have a chance to recover.

The purpose of this would be to get the UFC a more league type thing and hopefully score a major TV contract and get on weekly.

I know it won't ever happen, just an idea we were messing with.

[FrankTheTank]

hell yeah my boy tanner just beat the shit out of terrell

[HolyCow]

hell yeah my boy tanner just beat the shit out of terrell

You do know, that fight was like a year or two ago?

EDIT: and Evan Tanner is one of my all-time favorites. Shame to see him on the decline.

[FrankTheTank]

You do know, that fight was like a year or two ago?

EDIT: and Evan Tanner is one of my all-time favorites. Shame to see him on the decline.

yes

he rules

i always go for the crazy white guys (tanner, sylvia, etc) over the more technical ju-jitsu guys

[HolyCow]

Matt Hughes, best white guy and best guy period.

[FrankTheTank]

how the hell is that guy still standing???!

sylvia is beating him to a pulp!

[FrankTheTank]

man if noah and jesse don't fight tonight because of noah's bitch ass, i'm gonna be hella pissed

[HolyCow]

Armbar. Could see it coming the whole time. Jesse was just throwing punches away and forgot about it.

[SteelerMan]

It looked like Jesse was definitely the stronger of the two and the better striker, but I think Noah was smarter. Hopefully since Tito is in control now, and assuming he's going to use Shamrock's strategy of having his strongest fighter face the other team's weakest, we'll get to see Matt (the deaf guy) fight in the next couple weeks. It won't be next week though, right? I'm pretty sure they said next week it'll be middleweights, and I'm pretty sure Matt is a light heavyweight.

After watching Unleashed last night, I'm totally hooked. Seeing Tanner fight back to win after I was sure he was about to pass out was incredible. And Sylvia is a freakin beast!!! Correira (I think that was his name) took a nasty beating. It really made me want to see the PPV tomorrow night. How long do UFC pay-per-views last, and how many fights are there usually? The only thing that sucks is that it doesn't start until 9:00 here.

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

Here's the lines for tomorrow night......

http://www59.pinnaclesports.com/guestcontestLines.asp?redirected=yes&ContestType=Ultimate%20Fighting%20Championship

[HolyCow]

It looked like Jesse was definitely the stronger of the two and the better striker, but I think Noah was smarter. Hopefully since Tito is in control now, and assuming he's going to use Shamrock's strategy of having his strongest fighter face the other team's weakest, we'll get to see Matt (the deaf guy) fight in the next couple weeks. It won't be next week though, right? I'm pretty sure they said next week it'll be middleweights, and I'm pretty sure Matt is a light heavyweight.

After watching Unleashed last night, I'm totally hooked. Seeing Tanner fight back to win after I was sure he was about to pass out was incredible. And Sylvia is a freakin beast!!! Correira (I think that was his name) took a nasty beating. It really made me want to see the PPV tomorrow night. How long do UFC pay-per-views last, and how many fights are there usually? The only thing that sucks is that it doesn't start until 9:00 here.
The UFC is the fastest growing sport league in the world.

Sylvia may be a monster, but wait till you get a gander at Andrei Arlovski. Arlovski is a freakin' maniac. He isn't human in the octagon.

PPV's last about 2 to 2 and a half hours. For the overall card, there is 9 or 10 fights, but normally 5 or 6 are put on. You will get 4 for sure, and then time permitting, whatever they want to fill time with.

Get a group, get some alcohol, kick back and enjoy. It makes for a great night.

[dave1399fan]

Yeah Arlovski is a beast and as much as I want Sylvia to win I don't think he will.

They need to get Fedor from Pride to come over to UFC and match up with Arlovski. That would be a great fight!

[FrankTheTank]

hell yeah PPV tonight

i just called hooters and they're carrying it so i think i'm gonna head down there and watch it


part of me wants to bet $20 on sylvia, but the rational part of me says he's gonna get beat again

and my boy ortiz is just gonna destroy whitaker, it's not even going to be a contest

[HolyCow]

My picks for tonight:

Arlovski def. Sylvia in the second by submission
Ortiz def. Griffin by TKO in the third

And the rest, I don't really care to pick.
I hope the Snowman wins. And I hope Nick Diaz loses.

[FrankTheTank]

snowman??? that fuckin' commie?????

[dmbphan041]

should I but it tonight? it's like $50

[barefoot]

UFC, no doubt. Pride is great, but UFC is like the Big Leagues and PRIDE is Triple A.
While I really like UFC I have to say top to bottom Pride had better fighters. Fedor is a freak, I would love to see him and Arlovski fight, and Pride also has Cro Cop and Nogueira. Lt Heavyweights they have Silva, Rua, Arona and Overeem. When it comes to who pulls more to their shows Pride draws HUGE crowds, it is a huge event over there. I follow both closely but have to give the edge to Pride.

[HolyCow]

While I really like UFC I have to say top to bottom Pride had better fighters. Fedor is a freak, I would love to see him and Arlovski fight, and Pride also has Cro Cop and Nogueira. Lt Heavyweights they have Silva, Rua, Arona and Overeem. When it comes to who pulls more to their shows Pride draws HUGE crowds, it is a huge event over there. I follow both closely but have to give the edge to Pride.
Yeah, Pride sells out 100,000 person arenas in Japan.

But, there is no doubt in my mind that the UFC has better fighters.

Pride is darn awesome, but most of the Pride fighters are strikers without much ground.

[FrankTheTank]

pride has more lenient rules, which i like

about the only thing i like better

[dmbphan041]

HAPPY UFC 59

enjoy peeps

[dmbphan041]

that was bullshit, i fucking hate tito. forrest easily won the third round, even though tito got the takedown, forrest deflected all those elbows.

im so pissed.

[dmbphan041]

Tim Sylvia what!?

big ups to Tim. as far as im concerned anyone in the Miletich camp is a good guy in my books.

[dmbphan041]

Karo fucking destroyed the goat

[HolyCow]

Great night of action.

The Ortiz - Griffin bout was a classic.

I gave it to Forrest, but I can understand why he lost. Getting pounded so badly in the first really left an impression on the judges. He will have his chance.
Tito seems so cool as a coach on the Ulitmate Fighter, but in the octagon, he is a bag of douche. It is good for the UFC that he won though. A Liddell - Ortiz matchup for the belt will pull in huge cash.

Gotta give it up to Big Tim. He took Arlovski's absolute best shot and responded. Not the best way to win, not the 5 round war we wanted, but you gotta give it up. The question is, who else besides Arlovski can challenge for the heavyweight title? Monson? Mir? The heavyweight division is a little thin right now.

[dmbphan041]

sherk at 155 is gunna be a fucking beast. hell he already is. looking forward to griffin bonnar II, what the hell was that last night, joe rogan interviewed the british guy from UF3 and was like "how does it feel to be in the UFC now" well I guess we know who wins. fucking joe rogan, what an idiot. In terms of the heavyweight division, that's a really good question, I guess we'll have to wait and see what Dana can put together.

I stilll fucking hate Tito, what a punk.

[barefoot]

I thought Rampage was going to make his announcement yesterday.

[HolyCow]

Anyone watch tonight? Unleashed had some classic footage of Royce. I am curious to see how he manages against the newer style of fighting.

On the show, I was disappointed to see Ross go. Especially because I think Kendall is a d bag. Next week looks like a great one though.

[SteelerMan]

Ultimate Fighter was WEAK last night. They didn't even have a fight! I can't believe Noah left. On one hand, I respect him for doing what he thinks is right, but on the other, I think it was an incredibly stupid decision that he is going to regret big time once he gets back home. I think the guys are assholes for messing with Matt too. I mean, the guy's deaf... I really don't think he "gets" what is going on half the time, and I don't think he knows when he's being too rough or hurting someone since he can't hear them.

[HolyCow]

Ultimate Fighter was WEAK last night. They didn't even have a fight! I can't believe Noah left. On one hand, I respect him for doing what he thinks is right, but on the other, I think it was an incredibly stupid decision that he is going to regret big time once he gets back home. I think the guys are assholes for messing with Matt too. I mean, the guy's deaf... I really don't think he "gets" what is going on half the time, and I don't think he knows when he's being too rough or hurting someone since he can't hear them.:thumbsup :thumbsup

Noah is a huge puss. I mean, he was in the semi's and he left. What a D.

Everyone needs to lay off Matt. They always lead in with a guy complaining about something Matt did, and then they show it and its nothing.

Like the thing about "him being too good" to show Tait and Kendall that wrestling move. All he did was ask if it was ok, and then he showed them.

[SteelerMan]

Yeah, and that thing with Matt calling himself "The King"... I thought it was obvious he was joking, but they took it personally. He even apologized it! I actually think Matt is one of the least cocky guys on the show. It was pretty incredible watching him take guys down and dominate them without using his hands... I think that's the real reason they don't like him. He's good.

Do you remember who Noah beat in the first round? I have a feeling that's who they'll be bringing back. It must be someone from Shamrock's team because Tito looked pissed, and that's the only logical way I can see them choosing who to bring back.

Edit: I also think it's hilarious watching Tito say things to intentionally piss off Shamrock. Ken has an amazingly short temper. Tito always seems like a dick when he's fighting, but on the show, he seems like a cool guy.

[dave1399fan]

Yeah, Pride sells out 100,000 person arenas in Japan.

But, there is no doubt in my mind that the UFC has better fighters.

Pride is darn awesome, but most of the Pride fighters are strikers without much ground.

I have to disagree. I think fighters like Matt Hughes and Franklin would be top notch fighters over there but Lt. Heavyweight and Heavyweight would be dominated by Pride Fighters.

Fedor is the best heavyweight in the world. Fedor would dominate in either of the leagues and is the most well rounded fighter in the world. On top of that, I don't know if it's possible to knock him out. Cro Cop is known for being a deadly kicker and Fedor took Cro Cops best kick to the face and it didn't phase him. Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic would be on Sylvia and Arlovski's level maybe a little above.

Wanderlei Silva would walk through Chuck Liddell. Chuck is great against wrestlers but can get into trouble against superior strikers. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson destroyed Chuck Liddell in Pride 2-3 years ago and Wanderlei has destroyed Jackson both times they fought.

The one other big advantage Pride has it is a lot deeper at every weight than the UFC. The UFC is seriously lacking at Middlweight, Lt. Heavyweight and Heavyweight.

I am a bigger fan of the UFC but I don't think you could say definitely one is better than the other. They both cater to different styles. Pride is more catered towards striking and muay thai. It makes it tougher for ground and pounders because of the ring and you can't use elbows. Obviously the UFC with the cage cater and the usage of elbows caters more towards wrestlers and/or ground and pounders.

Different formats as well with Pride having a 10 minute round.

[HolyCow]

Yeah, and that thing with Matt calling himself "The King"... I thought it was obvious he was joking, but they took it personally. He even apologized it! I actually think Matt is one of the least cocky guys on the show. It was pretty incredible watching him take guys down and dominate them without using his hands... I think that's the real reason they don't like him. He's good.

Do you remember who Noah beat in the first round? I have a feeling that's who they'll be bringing back. It must be someone from Shamrock's team because Tito looked pissed, and that's the only logical way I can see them choosing who to bring back.

Edit: I also think it's hilarious watching Tito say things to intentionally piss off Shamrock. Ken has an amazingly short temper. Tito always seems like a dick when he's fighting, but on the show, he seems like a cool guy.

I totally agree. Matt seems like the coolest...besides Bisping. He is freakin' awesome.

Noah beat that Jesse guy right? I thought that would be who came back too. Him or Soloman.

Tito is a douche in the octagon, but as a coach, he is awesome. Can't wait till next week.

[HolyCow]

I have to disagree. I think fighters like Matt Hughes and Franklin would be top notch fighters over there but Lt. Heavyweight and Heavyweight would be dominated by Pride Fighters.

Fedor is the best heavyweight in the world. Fedor would dominate in either of the leagues and is the most well rounded fighter in the world. On top of that, I don't know if it's possible to knock him out. Cro Cop is known for being a deadly kicker and Fedor took Cro Cops best kick to the face and it didn't phase him. Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic would be on Sylvia and Arlovski's level maybe a little above.

Wanderlei Silva would walk through Chuck Liddell. Chuck is great against wrestlers but can get into trouble against superior strikers. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson destroyed Chuck Liddell in Pride 2-3 years ago and Wanderlei has destroyed Jackson both times they fought.

The one other big advantage Pride has it is a lot deeper at every weight than the UFC. The UFC is seriously lacking at Middlweight, Lt. Heavyweight and Heavyweight.

I am a bigger fan of the UFC but I don't think you could say definitely one is better than the other. They both cater to different styles. Pride is more catered towards striking and muay thai. It makes it tougher for ground and pounders because of the ring and you can't use elbows. Obviously the UFC with the cage cater and the usage of elbows caters more towards wrestlers and/or ground and pounders.

Different formats as well with Pride having a 10 minute round.

You make great points. Don't get me wrong, Pride is amazing. Better rules, more athletic fighters. But top to bottom, I think the UFC is better. Guys that couldn't cut it in the UFC or were old and washed up go to Pride and a champions. (Phil Baroni, Kevin Randleman, Mark Coleman). Pride has its share of great fighters, but overall, I think the UFC is better.

Pride isn't or casual fighting fans either. The UFC has drawn in a ton of fans the past year because it is pretty fan friendly with the 5 minute rounds and such. Pride is more for people that love MMA and want to see raw skill.

I would love to see CroCop, Silva and Fedor over here. Last summer, supossedly, there was going to be a Pride vs. UFC PPV. It fell through for obvious reason...whichever one loses, loses a ton of credibility.

To kinda summarize, I think top to bottom UFC is better. I also think the UFC has guys that would be able to beat Rampage, CroCop, Silva and Fedor. They are awesome but in matchups like:

Arlovski vs Fedor.... toss up. Fedor is great, but Arlovski is an absolute animal.

Silva vs. Chuck.... Rampage may have gotten Chuck 3 years ago, but Chuck now is no where close to 3 years ago. Chuck's standup and sprawl are the best in the world.

The bolded paragraph, I totally agree with. :thumbsup

[MoBb]

Is it just me, or does Ken Shamrok seem a little retarded? The man has recieved on too many punches to the head, obviously. I love how Tito is just playing with him, getting him all worked up about nothing. :lol

[HolyCow]

Is it just me, or does Ken Shamrok seem a little retarded? The man has recieved on too many punches to the head, obviously. I love how Tito is just playing with him, getting him all worked up about nothing. :lol

I really don't think he is all there either.

"I'm gonna smash your head you little monkey!"

Ken needs to stop watching his old fight tapes and come up with some better insults.

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

I have to disagree. I think fighters like Matt Hughes and Franklin would be top notch fighters over there but Lt. Heavyweight and Heavyweight would be dominated by Pride Fighters.

Fedor is the best heavyweight in the world. Fedor would dominate in either of the leagues and is the most well rounded fighter in the world. On top of that, I don't know if it's possible to knock him out. Cro Cop is known for being a deadly kicker and Fedor took Cro Cops best kick to the face and it didn't phase him. Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic would be on Sylvia and Arlovski's level maybe a little above.

Wanderlei Silva would walk through Chuck Liddell. Chuck is great against wrestlers but can get into trouble against superior strikers. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson destroyed Chuck Liddell in Pride 2-3 years ago and Wanderlei has destroyed Jackson both times they fought.

The one other big advantage Pride has it is a lot deeper at every weight than the UFC. The UFC is seriously lacking at Middlweight, Lt. Heavyweight and Heavyweight.

I am a bigger fan of the UFC but I don't think you could say definitely one is better than the other. They both cater to different styles. Pride is more catered towards striking and muay thai. It makes it tougher for ground and pounders because of the ring and you can't use elbows. Obviously the UFC with the cage cater and the usage of elbows caters more towards wrestlers and/or ground and pounders.

Different formats as well with Pride having a 10 minute round.


That's all pride has Silva and Jackson. Cro-cop doesn't even fight for Pride anymore, he's been taken off their list of fighters. Pride is like the 2nd chance for UFC fighters who can't win there. I could rattle off a long list of weak UFC fighters now fighting in Pride (Tank, Belfore, Baroni, Horn) at the same time while still signing fighters well past their prime, (Ruas, Kerr, Coleman, Tank again) plus a whole bunch of over-hyped asian talent. Yes we all know Liddell lost to Jackson, but that's it. No one who has ever dominated in Pride came into UFC and won a belt. Mark Coleman, who was a UFC staple, got beat in UFC and went into Pride and won their first Grand Prix. Jeremy Horn is another example, lost a whole bunch of fights in UFC, went to Pride, kicked just about everyone's ass. Thought he was good enough to come back and fight in the UFC, got knocked out in the first round. I'm not saying Pride is full of weak fighters, but it's like comparing the minor leagues to the majors.

[dave1399fan]

Arlovski vs Fedor.... toss up. Fedor is great, but Arlovski is an absolute animal.

Silva vs. Chuck.... Rampage may have gotten Chuck 3 years ago, but Chuck now is no where close to 3 years ago. Chuck's standup and sprawl are the best in the world.


Chuck is a great striker but is not the best at stand up. He is one of the best at takedown defense. His problem is he doesn't face great strikers in the UFC at his weightclass. His hand positioning is dangerous against great strikers with quick hands and it showed against Jackson. There aren't many in the UFC quick enough to throw a punch at Chuck without him first connecting. If you watch the fight, Jackson's hands were so quick and Chucks hands were out too far to defend. He also wasn't quick enough to counter punch in time.

Don't get me wrong Chuck is a world class fighter but I believe Jackson is as good as him and Silva is better than both.

That's all pride has Silva and Jackson.
Fedor is widely regarded from non-biased sources as the most dangerous man in the world and the best heavyweight fighter in the world.


Cro-cop doesn't even fight for Pride anymore, he's been taken off their list of fighters.
He fought last friday in Pride.


Pride is like the 2nd chance for UFC fighters who can't win there. I could rattle off a long list of weak UFC fighters now fighting in Pride (Tank, Belfore, Baroni, Horn)
Tank has fought 1 time in Pride.

Belfort was the champion in the UFC and at the start of his career 6-1 in the UFC. Pride paid him more money than the UFC could match so he went over.

Anyone who knows anything about MMA could tell you that Baroni was not cut out for the UFC. He can't defend against takedowns and is a great striker. Pride tailors to strikers and UFC tailors to ground and pound


at the same time while still signing fighters well past their prime, (Ruas, Kerr, Coleman, Tank again)
Kerr was 4-0 in the UFC and got an offer from Pride he couldn’t refuse.

Mark Coleman, who was a UFC staple, got beat in UFC and went into Pride and won their first Grand Prix.

Coleman was 6-3 in the UFC and was the best fighter in the UFC in 1996 going 5-0. He switched over in 1999. Of his 3 losses, 2 were decisions. He was nowhere near past his prime.


Yes we all know Liddell lost to Jackson, but that's it.
[COLOR]
[COLOR=black]He didn’t lose he got destroyed. His corner through in the towel and if he went much longer he would have been knocked out. He was outmatched by a better striker.


No one who has ever dominated in Pride came into UFC and won a belt.
[COLOR]
[COLOR=black]That’s because up until recently Pride paid a lot more than the UFC did. They bought talent from the UFC and didn’t let their top talent leave. The UFC is trying to recruit fighters from Pride now because their middleweight and lt. heavyweight divisions are so weak.







Jeremy Horn is another example, lost a whole bunch of fights in UFC, went to Pride, kicked just about everyone's ass. Thought he was good enough to come back and fight in the UFC, got knocked out in the first round.

I don’t know were you are getting your info from but Horn fought 2 fights in Pride that was separated by a year and a half. Both of his opponents were weak and nowhere near top talent. The first he guy he fought was 12-14.

The UFC was so weak at Lt. Heavyweight that threw an unqualified Horn and past his prime Vitor against Chuck just to give him some matches.


I'm not saying Pride is full of weak fighters, but it's like comparing the minor leagues to the majors.

I completely disagree. Pride has a lot more fighters so by number may have some weaker fighters. From top to bottom, Pride is a lot better than the UFC at every weight class. Fedor is considered by any unbiased mma expert the best heavyweight in the world. Silva can outstrike the guy that destroyed Liddell. And has many other quality contenders.

The problem with the UFC is it has some good champions but doesn’t have enough guys to challenge them. The lightweight division is pretty solid and there are 3 good contenders but every other weight class is lacking. The UFC tried to recruit a guy from Pride to try and give Franklin a contest. The UFC tried recruiting Jackson the UFC to give Chuck a challenge.

I would say a better comparison is the NL and the AL.

Don’t get me wrong I am a huge fan of the UFC. I get all their pay per view events. I know coaches that train fighters in the UFC. There is a guy from my MMA class that fights in the UFC. I fanatically watch the Ultimate Fighter.

[FrankTheTank]

kendall and kaleb in the semifinals is going to be a great fucking matchup.

they are easily the best two fighters in their weight division, and i think they should've fought in the finals not the semis.

[MoBb]

So did anyone watch UFC 64? Holy malony Wanderlei Silva is INSANE! Threw Franklin around like a little bitch and brought the pain with pretty much everything he did, like he did with Chris Leben a couple of months ago.

Silva and St. Pierre - my two favorite fighters who both hopefully will be world champions in their weight class when Pierre meets Matt Hughes again.

But I would've liked to see a rematch of BJ Penn and Matt Hughes. Penn was totally dominating the first two rounds untill he ran out of air. He should maybe start training his condition a little bit more.

Anyway; this has been one of the best years in UFC history in my opinion. So many great fights, so many new interesting fighters and now, finally, a new champion in the middle weight class.

And yeah, Pride fighters are much better than the guys in UFC from what I've seen. Still like UFC better though.

[HolyCow]

So did anyone watch UFC 64? Holy malony Wanderlei Silva is INSANE! Threw Franklin around like a little bitch and brought the pain with pretty much everything he did, like he did with Chris Leben a couple of months ago.

Silva and St. Pierre - my two favorite fighters who both hopefully will be world champions in their weight class when Pierre meets Matt Hughes again.

But I would've liked to see a rematch of BJ Penn and Matt Hughes. Penn was totally dominating the first two rounds untill he ran out of air. He should maybe start training his condition a little bit more.

Anyway; this has been one of the best years in UFC history in my opinion. So many great fights, so many new interesting fighters and now, finally, a new champion in the middle weight class.

And yeah, Pride fighters are much better than the guys in UFC from what I've seen. Still like UFC better though.
I was of course watching 64 and I can't say that I was that surprised that Silva won. Franklin really wasn't much of an accomplished champ and Silva's Muy Thai made quick work of him. I would love to see Silva go up a class and fight Chuck.

What a strikers fight that would be.

[BigE]

I've caught this a couple times, but not much. A buddy that's really into it keeps talking about "The Hockey Fight". Who the heck was in it? I'd like to check it out but....well...when I search "hockey fight", some f'd up game with sticks keeps coming up. :p

[MoBb]

I was of course watching 64 and I can't say that I was that surprised that Silva won. Franklin really wasn't much of an accomplished champ and Silva's Muy Thai made quick work of him. I would love to see Silva go up a class and fight Chuck.

What a strikers fight that would be.

Yeah, I think Silva will be way too dominant in this weight class, so that might be a good idea.

Would it be illegal for UFC to hold open weight class tournaments like they do in Pride?

[MoBb]

Oh, and I feel really sorry for whoever wins the TUF finale and have to meet Silva.

[HolyCow]

Would it be illegal for UFC to hold open weight class tournaments like they do in Pride?
That would be amazing. What a tournament.

Matt Hughes
Chuck
Tito
Silva
Arlovski
Silvia
and on...

what a tournament

[MoBb]

Pride Real Deal was kind of a dissapointment in my opinion. Was hoping for more action, but it was just too much domination from one fighter in almost every match-up.

Silva VS Liddell should be exciting if the UFC accepts it.

[MoBb]

GSP!

UFC 65 kicked ass.

- And I hope to Science that Brandon Vega gets to fight Sylvia.

Oh, and the upcoming Fight Night has Joe Riggs pitted against Diego Sanchez. Should be interesting.

UFC is just getting better and better.

[budgrove]

big fights tonight: liddell vs ortiz 2...forrest griffin....the pit bull....and chris leben. anyone watching it? who ya cheering for. i hope chuck beats the holy hell out of tito!

[dmbphan041]

im pissed im missing this

[dmbfan#?]

First time I ever saw any of these kind of fights. It was awesome. Griffin got the shit knocked out of him. I was dissappointed with the Liddell and Ortiz match. I don't think they should have called it. Very entertaining.

[barefoot]

I was pulling for Tito, I have been a big fan of his fighting for a while. I think they stopped it early but I am not sure that would have changed the outcome.I was interested to see how Arlovski was going to come out, I know he is worried about taking shots but he has to reagin that aggresiveness that got him to the top. Good fights, solid card, I cant wait for Feb 3rd, St. Pierre, Silva, CroCop and Jackson. Going to be a great night of fights.

[dmbfan#?]

I don't think it would have changed the outcome either. I was hopin Lidell won. It looked to me like Ortiz was still defending himself and had his wits about him.

[MoBb]

Sad to see Griffin go out like that. I still think he's a better fighter than Jardine though.

I usually root for the underdog, and I did to some degree with Ortiz, but I'm just glad the better fighter wins, which Lidell definetly were.

Cro Cop and "Rampage" Jackson february 3? HOLY FUCKING SMOKES! Now that's a delayed christmas present.

[barefoot]

That is going to be an awesome card. This is why MMA is so much better thatn boxing. You never see these match ups in boxing, but since the fighters dont have a choice you get them. You could never get a boxing card with the best fighters in their divisions all fighting on it, but you routinly get that in UFC and Pride.

[barefoot]

I cant believe Lutter didnt make weight

[MoBb]

Yeah, what a tool. Would've loved to see Dana White's reaction.

[barefoot]

I dont think he has a chance against Silva, but now he is losing alot of his prize money for the fight.Styles make fights and Lutter has the right one but from what I have seen of Silva he looks dominant. It will be interesting to see what he does if it goes to the ground. Still going to be a great card, looking forward to seeing Crocop and Rampage in the octagon instead of the Pride ring.

[MoBb]

Yeah, styles does make fights, but I think Silva's groundgame is good enough to defend and get him up on his feet again. I mean, if you'r ea BJJ black belt, you know your shit.

Still, this is MMA and anything could cappen. I just hope we get to see an exciting fight.

Yeah, Rampage and Cro-Cop in the UFC? I still can't believe it.

I was wondering if I should order the PPV and watch it over the internet, or just wait till tomorrow morning and download it. The video quality might suck you know.

[Ev42]

rampage fight should be good. i see this being lutters last fight in the ufc, after not making weight.

[barefoot]

I was just thinking that about Lutter, I mean you are given a chance and you blow it, I dont see Dana being very cool with that. I usually get all the UFC's and Pride's, my friends and I get together have some beers and make a night of it. If they are kind of weak then I will download them, this one I am looking forward to.

[dmbphan041]

even though it's not a title fight tonight'll still be good. Who's Cro Cop fighting again?

[barefoot]

Eddie Sanchez

[Ev42]

Eddie Sanchez

I fell sorry for him.

[barefoot]

Good fights, Crocop was dominant of course, being in the octagon didnt seem like it effected him. Jackson was def nervous to begin but finished solid. Silva is going to be wearing that belt for a long time, looked impressive even on the ground.

[MoBb]

Yeah, I thought it was a great card. The Tyson Griffin VS Frank Edgar fight was sick! I'm officially on the Frank Edgar bandwagon.

[Ev42]

Yeah, I thought it was a great card. The Tyson Griffin VS Frank Edgar fight was sick! I'm officially on the Frank Edgar bandwagon.

i had to look away when tyson sunk that kneebar in. I have no idea how edgar did not tap.

[barefoot]

UFC 70 will be free on Spike :thumbsup :thumbsup

[HolyCow]

UFC 70 will be free on Spike :thumbsup :thumbsup
Wow. That's huge.

UFC is going to be a mainstream sport along the likes of boxing within three years I bet.

[barefoot]

They are in talks with HBO to carry fights, the first one was supposed to be 70, apparently the details were not going to worked out in time. Since there was no time to advertise on PPV, they decided to go with Spike. Works out good for us.

[Ev42]

if you missed the last ufc event

Matt Hamill vs Rex Holman (UFC 68) - Previously Unaired
http://rapidshare.com/files/19685362...n__UFC_68_.wmv
or
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LX1ALB7D


Jamie Varner vs Jason Gilliam (UFC 68) - Previously Unaired
http://rapidshare.com/files/19684686...m__UFC_68_.wmv
or
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CCSVFPHX


Jon Fitch vs Luigi Fioranvanti (UFC 68) - Previously Unaired
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SKSLT2E7


Renato Sobral vs Jason Lambert (UFC 68) -- .MPG
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LK3OWE85
or
http://rapidshare.com/files/19314426...l__UFC_68_.mpg


Matt Hughes vs Chris Lytle (UFC 68) -- .MPG
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WWRFMPK2


Martin Kampmann vs Drew McFedries (UFC 68) -- .MPG
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PGBKHUT3
or
http://rapidshare.com/files/19309219...FC_68_-Tok.mpg


Rich Franklin vs Jason MacDonald (UFC 68) -- .WMV
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RTCD69KJ


Randy Couture vs Tim Sylvia (UFC 68) -- .WMV
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=026673K1

[MoBb]

Thanks for posting the unaired vids Ev42!

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

UFC 70 will be free on Spike :thumbsup :thumbsup

Where did you see that because on ufc.com they say it's a PPV event. Which is also interesting because the PPV starts at 2pm.

[barefoot]

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=3578&zoneid=13
this is the site where I get most of my info BTW, great site, starts at 2 because its in the U.K.

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=3578&zoneid=13
this is the site where I get most of my info BTW, great site, starts at 2 because its in the U.K.

Hey thanks. I use sherdog and maxfighting.com. I knew about this site, but I rarely went to it. I will be checking it out. I guess because of the early start they would have to put it on TV. I hope they do that for all the overseas events.

[barefoot]

that would be nice, I heard Dana say they wanted to do about 30 events this year ( which IMO is too many ) if they do I think they would have to do alot on free tv to be successful. There is no way they could have 30 cards that would justify 40 bucks a pop.

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

Did you read that Jim Lampley article about how boxers can beat MMA fighters? I know he has to defend the sport, because it's his job, but that was just a rediculous statement to make.

[barefoot]

Jim Lampley is a tool, and in a bit of trouble. He should concentrate on commentating boxing instead of beating his woman. http://www.tmz.com/2007/01/03/sportscaster-jim-lampley-arrested-for-domestic-abuse/

[barefoot]

latest on UFC 70 http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=3591&zoneid=13

[barefoot]

huge news, ( although I have suspected it for a while ) Fertittas buy Pride, if they do 1 super show a year between the organizations HOLY SHIT that would be awesome http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=3669&zoneid=13

[HolyCow]

huge news, ( although I have suspected it for a while ) Fertittas buy Pride, if they do 1 super show a year between the organizations HOLY SHIT that would be awesome http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=3669&zoneid=13
Wow. That is crazy.

A huge card with the two would be incredible.

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

MIXED MARTIAL ARTS FIGHTER TITO ORTIZ SAYS HE PULLED OUT OF A GRUDGE BOXING MATCH WITH UFC PRESIDENT DANA WHITE BECAUSE HE WAS BEING ASKED TO FIGHT WITHOUT A CONTRACT

LOS ANGELES (March 27, 2007) Top mixed martial arts fighter Tito Ortiz says he pulled out of a planned boxing bout against Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) president Dana White because he was being asked to enter the risky match without a contract and for no money. He said he is still willing to box White, but only if financial terms are ironed out in advance.

Ortiz, who has held the UFC lightheavyweight championship title, had been scheduled to fight former amateur boxing champion White on March 24th in a “grudge match” in Las Vegas. The match was a precondition that Ortiz had imposed before he signed a new contract with the UFC last year. Like Ortiz, White had been training for the fight and had received Nevada State Athletic commission approval for the match.

Ortiz explained in a post on his MySpace.com blog that he had already given up time and lost promotional fees to train for the fight against White, but decided against continuing after White and Spike TV declined to sign a contract agreeing to monetary and other terms, such as filming the fight for broadcast on payperview television.

After canceling several paid personal appearances in order to train for the fight and undergoing routine medical tests, he received a call from Craig (Piligian, Spike TV’s Senior Vice President of Sports and Specials), who said that “Dana (White) says that they are not going to shoot the fight (for PPV) or cover it in anyway. So this was a real lose, lose situation for me. I lost out on money for appearances. Now I was losing out on promotion and big dollars for the PPV. He didn't want to cut me in on the deal. So as a business man I couldn't do the fight.”

Ortiz also said the he has a “very big fight with (Rashad) Evans” coming up on July 7th. “Why would I risk my health and that fight for free?” he asked, referring to the White boxing match. “I wasn't going to make anything for it. I was not going to get taken advantage of as a fighter or a businessman. You tell me if I made the right decision. Hopefully this will get ironed out and will be done right the next time. Just trying to do business.”

[Ev42]

i hope Rashad beats him

[MoBb]

That would be quite an upset. I think Rashad is gonna get destroyed by a guy that's a way better striker. Rashad's last fight against that Salmon (?) dude was pathetic, up till the point that kick came from nowhere and closed the deal.

[Ev42]

titos striking is weak i.e. forrest fight. but if he get rashad down tito will pound him out.

[dmbphan041]

Rashad Evans shouldn't even be in the UFC, he's a terrible fighter IMO. He should be in Cage Rage or KOTK.

[MoBb]

titos striking is weak i.e. forrest fight. but if he get rashad down tito will pound him out.

Yeah, compared to top level fighters, his striking is weak, but it sure had improved, which I thought was pretty clear in the last fight against Liddell. Rashad would've been knocked out in 20 seconds if he had chosen to stand with Chuck.

And Forrest has decent striking in my opinion, and is getting better and better each fight. I still think he would win against Jardine if they had a rematch.

And how about this little overrhyped clown Hermes Franca? He's gonna fight Sean Sherk? My god, that fight is gonna be so boring, with Sherk laying on top of him for 5 rounds straight.

[MoBb]

Rashad Evans shouldn't even be in the UFC, he's a terrible fighter IMO. He should be in Cage Rage or KOTK.

Agreed. As should most of the TUF fighters..

[MoBb]

I read some rumour the Pride lightweight tournament in may will have the best fighters from Pride and UFC. If it's true and happening, that would be pretty damn sweet.

[Ev42]

don't know if you all have seen this before
Pride Hardcore Knockouts vol. 3
Part1
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q1UXWI61

Part2
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=89FGMI5Y

Part3
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8B5EES6A

Part4
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BS15GAUH

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

Anybody see last night that they Dana White/Ortiz boxing match will now take place next week?

[dmbphan041]

I can't believe that tall black dude is 6'4 and 155lbs, that's disgusting

I laughed my ass off at Gabe, why the hell would you come in and be 25 pounds over weight? Also. there must not have been many applicants this time cause Monstah only had 3 fights under him and he was pretty weak. I can't believe no one wanted to be on Jens' team. If I had the choice I'd love to work with Little Evil, rather than BJ. The team picking at the beginning was complete lolz, Dana didnt know what the hell was going on. No. fuck off, one at a time, damnit. Something tells me Nate Diaz won't make it all the way, I mean he is pretty badass (see youtube) but I don't think he'll go all the way. Also it's cool to see J-Lau on the show.

Being Canadian, I hope GSP retains tomorrow night

[swordo84]

I can't believe that tall black dude is 6'4 and 155lbs, that's disgusting

I laughed my ass off at Gabe, why the hell would you come in and be 25 pounds over weight? Also. there must not have been many applicants this time cause Monstah only had 3 fights under him and he was pretty weak. I can't believe no one wanted to be on Jens' team. If I had the choice I'd love to work with Little Evil, rather than BJ. The team picking at the beginning was complete lolz, Dana didnt know what the hell was going on. No. fuck off, one at a time, damnit. Something tells me Nate Diaz won't make it all the way, I mean he is pretty badass (see youtube) but I don't think he'll go all the way. Also it's cool to see J-Lau on the show.

Being Canadian, I hope GSP retains tomorrow night

:thumbsup:thumbsup He's going to pound the 'Terra' Right outta Serra.

--Colin

[dmbphan041]

I want to start training in BJJ this summer, I have to get my cardio up first though. I mean I took wrestling all through highschool and I took boxing classed for 2 years so BJJ seems like the next logical step.

[MoBb]

don't know if you all have seen this before
Pride Hardcore Knockouts vol. 3
Part1
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q1UXWI61

Part2
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=89FGMI5Y

Part3
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8B5EES6A

Part4
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BS15GAUH

Ah thanks a lot man. I got Vol.1 on DVD.

[Ev42]

I can't believe that tall black dude is 6'4 and 155lbs, that's disgusting

I laughed my ass off at Gabe, why the hell would you come in and be 25 pounds over weight? Also. there must not have been many applicants this time cause Monstah only had 3 fights under him and he was pretty weak. I can't believe no one wanted to be on Jens' team. If I had the choice I'd love to work with Little Evil, rather than BJ. The team picking at the beginning was complete lolz, Dana didnt know what the hell was going on. No. fuck off, one at a time, damnit. Something tells me Nate Diaz won't make it all the way, I mean he is pretty badass (see youtube) but I don't think he'll go all the way. Also it's cool to see J-Lau on the show.

Being Canadian, I hope GSP retains tomorrow night


Bj's well rounded any body that wants to be well rounded mad a great choice. plus his coaches are better than Jens

[barefoot]

wow, I still cannot believe Serra won, he just came out blazing. Was disappointed in the Sanchez/ Koscheck fight, only in the fact Diego did not want to push any action I thought I would see alot more on the ground. The Huerta/ Garcia fight was alot of fun to watch, tons of action and good standup and ground work. That choke Grove put on was very cool also. This card ended up being better than I orginally thought and we got the official introduction of Minotauro Nogueira to the UFC heavyweight division.

[Ev42]

wow, I still cannot believe Serra won, he just came out blazing. Was disappointed in the Sanchez/ Koscheck fight, only in the fact Diego did not want to push any action I thought I would see alot more on the ground. The Huerta/ Garcia fight was alot of fun to watch, tons of action and good standup and ground work. That choke Grove put on was very cool also. This card ended up being better than I orginally thought and we got the official introduction of Minotauro Nogueira to the UFC heavyweight division.

:thumbsup awesome. i did not buy this ppv

[HolyCow]

Can you believe Matt Serra? Wow.

And Koscheck to likely get a shot at the title. Big upset over Diego.

[justink]

my friend called and had an extra ticket... but i stayed at the house w/ the family. ;)

-j

[MoBb]

What a card. I'm still in shock over Serra pulling an upset.

[MoBb]

Man, Pride 34 was emotional stuff. I felt like I had watched a movie when it was done. Great fights, great production, as always. God I hope UFC won't rob Pride completely of its best fighters.

[MoBb]

http://70.ufc.com/

UFC knows how to make websites, that's for sure. I can't wait to see this card.

[HolyCow]

http://70.ufc.com/

UFC knows how to make websites, that's for sure. I can't wait to see this card.
Looks so good. I want Cro Cop to win so bad. I think Couture-Cro Cop would be maybe the most anticipated championship fight ever.

And I love Bisping. Can't wait to see him.

AND Arlovsksi! Great card.


AND IT'S FREE! :bounce

[MoBb]

Looks so good. I want Cro Cop to win so bad. I think Couture-Cro Cop would be maybe the most anticipated championship fight ever.

And I love Bisping. Can't wait to see him.

AND Arlovsksi! Great card.


AND IT'S FREE! :bounce

:thumbsup

Arlovski is gonna have his hands full with Werdum though.

[HolyCow]

:thumbsup

Arlovski is gonna have his hands full with Werdum though.
Yep. Especially with the way Andre has fought lately.

[MoBb]

Yep. Especially with the way Andre has fought lately.

True. He's extremely talented, and if it weren't for his weak jaw, he could probably be a real threat to anyone in that division, including Cro Cop and Nog. I hope to see Nog VS Sylvia..

There's so many HW match-ups I wanna see now. And the LW division looks incredible! BJ Penn, Roger Huerta, Joe Stevenson, Melvin Guillard, Tyson Griffin, Kenny Florian, Hermes Franca, Joe Lauzon etc.

[jmudmbphan]

my buddies older brother has gotten me set up to train a couple times a week with royce gracie this summer. should be real sweet learning from that guy.

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

my buddies older brother has gotten me set up to train a couple times a week with royce gracie this summer. should be real sweet learning from that guy.

I've met Renzo before. A buddy of mine, his brother trains with them all the time, has them over for dinner like once a month the whole nine. He's really nice person, and he didn't mind that I was picking his brain the whole time. I've never met Royce, but I can speak for Renzo.

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

I saw that Brock Lesnar is fighting in the MMA circut these days. I heard he won his first match back in Feb. I would love to see clips of that guy. If anything he's a very accomplished collegate wrestler, so it's not like he doesn't have a background in this. Fucking dude is an animal.

[jmudmbphan]

I've met Renzo before. A buddy of mine, his brother trains with them all the time, has them over for dinner like once a month the whole nine. He's really nice person, and he didn't mind that I was picking his brain the whole time. I've never met Royce, but I can speak for Renzo.


yeah i hear they are all very nice in person.

[MoBb]

Renzo is a real sweetheart. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-Tbrp7mN4c :lol

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

Renzo is a real sweetheart. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-Tbrp7mN4c :lol

I would have done the same thing. The guy threw a punch after the match. He's sticking up for this fighter.

[Ev42]

UFC 69 Un-aired Prelims

Marcus Davis v. Pete Spratt
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FGAF47IH

-No DL (Dailymotion player):
http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/5QvlIMFIg4qGVbRTs

Pete Sell v. Thales Leites:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/itzkff

Herring v. Imes:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OAQJVTIP

[Ev42]

for anyone who has not seen ufc 69
aaf-ufc69a.avi
http://d01.megashares.com/?d01=c894aa7

aaf-ufc69b.avi
http://d01.megashares.com/?d01=0420d3f

[MoBb]

I would have done the same thing. The guy threw a punch after the match. He's sticking up for this fighter.

The guy on the bottom wouldn't let go though. Nevertheless, I see your point. It just looks a bit excessive with the kick.

[MoBb]

Ev42, megaupload is just terrible. You have to wait 360 minutes or whatever between each file, unless you're registered. I gave up on the ultimate knockouts video you posted earlier, after they wouldn't let me download part 2. Thanks again for posting though, I do appreciate it.

I just saw the prelims from 69 an hour ago. I'm glad to see Herring pulling out a win.

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

The guy on the bottom wouldn't let go though. Nevertheless, I see your point. It just looks a bit excessive with the kick.

But to his defense, he wasn't facing the ref when the guy tapped out. He had no clue the guy tapped. You could see the guy outside the ring tell him, he tapped. It looks like there was no hard feelings afterwards which was good.

[MoBb]

But to his defense, he wasn't facing the ref when the guy tapped out. He had no clue the guy tapped. You could see the guy outside the ring tell him, he tapped. It looks like there was no hard feelings afterwards which was good.

I thought it looked like he tapped three four times on his leg, but whatever. :) Yeah, they hugged it out afterwards. :thumbsup

[Ev42]

you have to wait at all the places unless you have an account

[MoBb]

you have to wait at all the places unless you have an account

Ah, okey. You have to pay for it?

[Ev42]

Ah, okey. You have to pay for it?

unless you don't care about waiting around 2-3 hr i have a sendspace account but it sucks except for music downloads, uploads

[barefoot]

nice to see a little action in this thread:thumbsup

[HolyCow]

True. He's extremely talented, and if it weren't for his weak jaw, he could probably be a real threat to anyone in that division, including Cro Cop and Nog. I hope to see Nog VS Sylvia..

There's so many HW match-ups I wanna see now. And the LW division looks incredible! BJ Penn, Roger Huerta, Joe Stevenson, Melvin Guillard, Tyson Griffin, Kenny Florian, Hermes Franca, Joe Lauzon etc.
Could you believe the way Joe Stevenson put Guillard out so fast? I mean, I know Joe is great on the ground and all, but dang.

[MoBb]

Could you believe the way Joe Stevenson put Guillard out so fast? I mean, I know Joe is great on the ground and all, but dang.

Yeah I was shocked at that. I actually thought Guillard would have a good chance at beating Stevenson, and expected a war at least. No such luck. UFN 9 was just terrible.

[barefoot]

official card released http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=3772&zoneid=13

[MoBb]

official card released http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=3772&zoneid=13

MIRKO “CRO COP” vs. GABRIEL GONZAGA
MICHAEL BISPING vs. ELVIS SINOSIC
ANDREI ARLOVSKI vs. FABRICIO WERDUM
DAVID HEATH vs. LYOTO MACHIDA
ASSUERIO SILVA vs. CHEICK KONGO
MATT GRICE vs. TERRY ETIM
JUNIOR ASSUNCAO vs. DAVID LEE
VICTOR VALIMAKI vs. ALESSIO SAKARA
DENNIS SIVER vs. JESS LIAUDIN
EDILBERTO CROCOTA vs. PAUL TAYLOR

Those four match-ups looks gooood!

[barefoot]

I just got Pride Ultimate Knockouts ( thru Blockbuster Online ) good DVD. Nice mix and is almost 2 hours long.

[barefoot]

MIRKO “CRO COP” vs. GABRIEL GONZAGA
MICHAEL BISPING vs. ELVIS SINOSIC
ANDREI ARLOVSKI vs. FABRICIO WERDUM
DAVID HEATH vs. LYOTO MACHIDA
ASSUERIO SILVA vs. CHEICK KONGO
MATT GRICE vs. TERRY ETIM
JUNIOR ASSUNCAO vs. DAVID LEE
VICTOR VALIMAKI vs. ALESSIO SAKARA
DENNIS SIVER vs. JESS LIAUDIN
EDILBERTO CROCOTA vs. PAUL TAYLOR

Those four match-ups looks gooood!

I am interested in the Silva v. Congo fight, both guys seem to have more talent that they have showed. I would like to see one step up and start making some noise. Of course the Heavywieght div. is alot better now, but you cant have too many exciting fighters.

[MoBb]

I just got Pride Ultimate Knockouts ( thru Blockbuster Online ) good DVD. Nice mix and is almost 2 hours long.

Which one? I got Vol.1 on DVD through play.com a couple of weeks ago. Very good stuff indeed.

I am interested in the Silva v. Congo fight, both guys seem to have more talent that they have showed. I would like to see one step up and start making some noise. Of course the Heavywieght div. is alot better now, but you cant have too many exciting fighters.

True. Congo looked good in his first two fights, but his obvious weakness is his groundgame, as shown in his last fight against Marerro. Silva is a decent fighter, so I have no doubt it will be a good fight. I'm expecting a lot of knockouts on this card.

[barefoot]

yea its vol 1, I know there are others on PPV but for some reason arent on DVD.

[MoBb]

Yeah, I've heard vol.2 is about to be released though.

http://www.prideofficial.com/

LWGP, in May. Pride VS UFC. :thumbsup

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

The only odds I've seen so far

Mirko Cro Cop -500 -600
Gabriel Gonzaga +400 +400

[MoBb]

Have you put money on fights?

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

Have you put money on fights?

Oh yeah Bodog takes bets. We bet them all the time. I know it's after the fact, but I was going to bet Serra for that fight. His odds that night were crazy: Serra +800. It's always worth throwing a couple bucks on an underdog like that because anything can happen. It's not like betting baseball or football.

[MoBb]

Oh yeah Bodog takes bets. We bet them all the time. I know it's after the fact, but I was going to bet Serra for that fight. His odds that night were crazy: Serra +800. It's always worth throwing a couple bucks on an underdog like that because anything can happen. It's not like betting baseball or football.

True. MMA is the sport of underdogs it may seem.

I'm not big on gambling though. I don't have money to lose at the time. :rolleyes

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

True. MMA is the sport of underdogs it may seem.

I'm not big on gambling though. I don't have money to lose at the time. :rolleyes

I don't bet crazy on it, but 20 bucks a fight here and there is nice. Bodog does a good job at it. You can even bet 5 bucks if you want.

[MoBb]

I don't bet crazy on it, but 20 bucks a fight here and there is nice. Bodog does a good job at it. You can even bet 5 bucks if you want.

Maybe I'll check it out. But som cash on Lindland. :D

[HolyCow]

MIRKO “CRO COP” vs. GABRIEL GONZAGA
MICHAEL BISPING vs. ELVIS SINOSIC
ANDREI ARLOVSKI vs. FABRICIO WERDUM
DAVID HEATH vs. LYOTO MACHIDA


Call me crazy, but the Machida - Heath matchup looks most interesting to me.

But I am really excited to see Bisping. I really like that guy.



And on the flip side, Tito vs. Dana White. What is this, the WWF now? Is Dana White Vince McMahon?

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

Maybe I'll check it out. But som cash on Lindland. :D

Yeah I would bet him for that fight. He's probably not going to win it, but he has a way better shot then someone you've never heard of.

[MoBb]

Call me crazy, but the Machida - Heath matchup looks most interesting to me.

Machida is an entertaining fighter, no doubt about that. I'm just praying for a KTFO by LHK from Mirko. :evil

But I am really excited to see Bisping. I really like that guy.

Great personality, great fighter. :thumbsup

And on the flip side, Tito vs. Dana White. What is this, the WWF now? Is Dana White Vince McMahon?

Yeah and no fight!? 1.5 hour long documentary without the fight is just stupid, and a waste of air-time. Tito is a pussywhipped, big-headed mental case, and Dana White is the most unprofessional idiot - dropping F bombs every three seconds. But with the 18-34 male demographic watching MMA, I guess it won't matter.

[Ev42]

Melvin Guillard test positive for coke
April 5 won't be the day Melvin Guillard (Pictures) remembers as the time he lost to Joe Stevenson (Pictures) in 27 seconds. Rather, the lightweight from Louisiana will likely remember the most recent UFC Fight Night for becoming the first mixed martial artist to test positive for cocaine metabolite in the state of Nevada, fightnetwork.com reported Thursday.

Guillard, 23, participated on the second season of The Ultimate Fighter and has since gone 3-2 inside the Octagon.

[MoBb]

Yeah I would bet him for that fight. He's probably not going to win it, but he has a way better shot then someone you've never heard of.

He's probably the best wrestler in MMA p4p, so he definetly has a chance. But of course, he's fighting someone who would knock the steel off Terminator.

[laststraw41]

I don't know the first thing about MMA, but I know that Bas Rutten is a BADASS

[MoBb]

Melvin Guillard test positive for coke
April 5 won't be the day Melvin Guillard (Pictures) remembers as the time he lost to Joe Stevenson (Pictures) in 27 seconds. Rather, the lightweight from Louisiana will likely remember the most recent UFC Fight Night for becoming the first mixed martial artist to test positive for cocaine metabolite in the state of Nevada, fightnetwork.com reported Thursday.

Guillard, 23, participated on the second season of The Ultimate Fighter and has since gone 3-2 inside the Octagon.

Read that earlier. What an idiot. Cocaine is only in your system for 3-5 days (longer if you do it a lot), so I'm guessing he was out partying the next day, or maybe tried to cut weight that way..? Either way, in a couple of weeks (since before the fight at UFN 9) I went from actually liking Melvin, despite his obvious retardation. The man is an arrogant idiot, and should be sent straight to WEC for a couple of games.

[MoBb]

I don't know the first thing about MMA, but I know that Bas Rutten is a BADASS

Indeed. :thumbsup

He's also the best color commentator in the sport.

You should definetely get into the sport. Without a doubt the most exciting sport to watch, which is why it's blowing up right now and even surpassing boxing in PPV numbers.

Edit: And this is a must-see HL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z7dw6UUiYk

[shanni77]

Yeah and no fight!? 1.5 hour long documentary without the fight is just stupid, and a waste of air-time. Tito is a pussywhipped, big-headed mental case, and Dana White is the most unprofessional idiot - dropping F bombs every three seconds. But with the 18-34 male demographic watching MMA, I guess it won't matter.[/quote]


Yeah I couldn't believe this shit when I heard it. And for a second I thought naa, no way this going to happen and my husband said that all day long, but like dumbasses we sat through the hour and a half long documentary of basically why they hate each other. Who cares? I think it was all a a big publicity stunt on Tito's part. He seems to think his big head doesn't get enough attention.

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

He's probably the best wrestler in MMA p4p, so he definetly has a chance. But of course, he's fighting someone who would knock the steel off Terminator.

HA HA. I'm sure he can.

[MoBb]

Yeah I couldn't believe this shit when I heard it. And for a second I thought naa, no way this going to happen and my husband said that all day long, but like dumbasses we sat through the hour and a half long documentary of basically why they hate each other. Who cares? I think it was all a a big publicity stunt on Tito's part. He seems to think his big head doesn't get enough attention.

Funny how the biggest head in the world is the home of the most big-headed personality in MMA. :rolleyes

I'm sorry for your loss (of time).

[marjorybarnes]

Wow, this thread is really taking off over here! Love that!

I watched the white vs. ortiz thing last night. I have a crush on dana white. when they were in houston last weekend, i really wanted to go out to the meet and greet and try get a pic with him. Im not sure what it is.

But anyway - he did some really awesome training! He was working the belly in the beginning, and at the weigh in, he looked good! I was impressed!

[Ev42]

Wow, this thread is really taking off over here! Love that!

I watched the white vs. ortiz thing last night. I have a crush on dana white. when they were in houston last weekend, i really wanted to go out to the meet and greet and try get a pic with him. Im not sure what it is.

But anyway - he did some really awesome training! He was working the belly in the beginning, and at the weigh in, he looked good! I was impressed!

wow a girl watching mma, :lol

[dmbphan041]

wow a girl watching mma, :lol

Kyra Gracie would beat you down if she heard you say that

[dmbphan041]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z7dw6UUiYk


that's the best highlight vid I've ever seen. thanks man that was pure sex

:hump

[MoBb]

that's the best highlight vid I've ever seen. thanks man that was pure sex

:hump

:thumbsup Incredibly sexy stuff, indeed.

[marjorybarnes]

wow a girl watching mma, :lol

I love MMA. I wont talk to technical about though, because Im not an expert. I mostly just talk about it with friends and my bf (who just won his first fight). I found out about a couple of local gyms that train women, and I think I might try it out next year. First, I want to get into better shape and finish my first marathon.

[dmbphan041]

I love how my friends call MMA "really disturbingly ghey"

[MoBb]

I love how my friends call MMA "really disturbingly ghey"

Ha! Yeah, nothing says "ghey" more than a knee to the face.

[Ev42]

I love MMA. I wont talk to technical about though, because Im not an expert. I mostly just talk about it with friends and my bf (who just won his first fight). I found out about a couple of local gyms that train women, and I think I might try it out next year. First, I want to get into better shape and finish my first marathon.


thats cool

[MoBb]

Results from last night in St. Petersburg (the Bodog card): http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?search=yes&EventID=4683

[barefoot]

Indeed. :thumbsup

He's also the best color commentator in the sport.

You should definetely get into the sport. Without a doubt the most exciting sport to watch, which is why it's blowing up right now and even surpassing boxing in PPV numbers.

Edit: And this is a must-see HL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z7dw6UUiYk

I am not a huge fan of Bas comentating, I dont hate him but dont like him either. I really like Rogan, he is very knowledgable of the sport and its fighters.

[barefoot]

Nice to see Putin is a MMA fan, and inviting people back to his crib to party!! I also read Fedor was grabbing the ropes alot, will have to wait to see, I am going to download this as soon as its up.

[MoBb]

Nice to see Putin is a MMA fan, and inviting people back to his crib to party!! I also read Fedor was grabbing the ropes alot, will have to wait to see, I am going to download this as soon as its up.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1pw27_fedor-emelianenko-vs-matt-lindland

[barefoot]

thanks for the link, saved me from downloading the whole show.

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

Some more fight odds.

Andrei Arlovski -115
Fabricio Werdum -115

Michael Bisping -600
Elvis Sinosic +450

Gabriel Gonzaga +350
Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic -500

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

Joe Rogan and Mike Golberg Will Be Replaced for HBO Broadcasts


Joe Rogan and Mike GolbergHBO — not the UFC — will get to choose the announcers who commentate the UFC broadcasts on the subscription-cable giant.

That’s the word out of today’s conference call with UFC president Dana White.

Earlier today, I mentioned that the two sides had finally inked a deal after months of stalled negotiations. The UFC, which currently broadcasts its events primarily on pay-per-view and Spike TV, began talks with HBO earlier this year. The new deal would apparently put a few UFC shows on HBO beginning this summer.

However, as part of the deal, HBO would be in charge of the production and would use HBO broadcasters. That means that the UFC’s official crew of Joe Rogan and Mike Goldberg (and Randy Couture) will be replaced — mostly like by HBO Boxing’s stable of broadcasters — during all HBO broadcasts.

However, when asked if HBO Boxing analyst Jim Lampley (one of the UFC’s most outspoken critics) would be one of the broadcasters, White gave a definitive “hell no.”

Just within the past month, White admitted that control of the production had been the primary point of disagreement and that it was holding up the deal. It appears he ceded that control to get the deal done.

Although HBO Sports was initially against airing UFC events, it’s hard to imagine the channel intentionally sabotaging the broadcasts. And as White stated today, he wouldn’t agree to such a deal if he didn’t feel completely comfortable that the events would be handled in a professional and suitable way.

[MoBb]

I want my Rogan, but I'm excited about this, and can't wait to see the production. This is without a doubt a good thing, and on top of this, ESPN will be airing weigh-ins' and recap from the biggest fights after every card.

MMA is going mainstream. :D

Oh, and Dana White said in a recent interview that Pride will be getting huge TV network contracts both in the states and in Japan.

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

I would have fought harder for Rogan and Goldberg to do the announcing. Let HBO do the production, but UFC brings our own announcers. We shall see, I hope HBO doesn't do this half assed and then say, "see it doesn't work." I can see them doing that. Their bread and butter for the longest time was Boxing. They see this as a threat to that sport.

[HolyCow]

I want my Rogan, but I'm excited about this, and can't wait to see the production. This is without a doubt a good thing, and on top of this, ESPN will be airing weigh-ins' and recap from the biggest fights after every card.

MMA is going mainstream. :D

Oh, and Dana White said in a recent interview that Pride will be getting huge TV network contracts both in the states and in Japan.
I want it to be where it is a just a sport.

That people aren't liking it because it is cool and hip... but they like it because they like it. I want to it to get to the status of boxing so badly.

[MoBb]

I would have fought harder for Rogan and Goldberg to do the announcing. Let HBO do the production, but UFC brings our own announcers. We shall see, I hope HBO doesn't do this half assed and then say, "see it doesn't work." I can see them doing that. Their bread and butter for the longest time was Boxing. They see this as a threat to that sport.

Yeah, and the executives for HBO didn't seem much enthusiastic about the sport, so I wouldn't be surprised if it sucked. But we'll know soon enough.

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

Hey MoBb how much is that UFC 70 for you guys on PPV?

[MoBb]

I want it to be where it is a just a sport.

That people aren't liking it because it is cool and hip... but they like it because they like it. I want to it to get to the status of boxing so badly.

Yup. :thumbsup

And I believe it will, but it takes a lot of time to get into the sport. It certainly grows on you the more you learn the different techniques, and what the fighters are trying to do at all times. Knowing more and more fighters obviously make it a lot more entertaining too. The sport is still very young, and I believe it will get more and more popular, but won't be able to compete with the basketball, football and baseball just yet. The sport needs some history, more media coverage, but most of all just more time, period.

Still, considering how the sport looked just a couple of years ago when I started watching it, compared to today, the changes has been enormous.

[MoBb]

Hey MoBb how much is that UFC 70 for you guys on PPV?

Pffft, I'm not paying squat. :rolleyes

I use usenext/newzbin - so I'll be able to download the whole thing in about 30 minutes as soon as it's available (usually a couple of hours after it's aired).

If I was in my hometown I would probably order all the PPV's with my friends, but no such luck (..being in my hometown, or having much friends where I live now, hehe).

[MoBb]

Actually, I don't even know if it's possible to order the PPV's here. MMA is illegal in Norway. :shrug

I would have to order it via ufc.com..which..might be in low quality and poor connection.

[FACHEBLOOTZ]

Pffft, I'm not paying squat. :rolleyes

I use usenext/newzbin - so I'll be able to download the whole thing in about 30 minutes as soon as it's available (usually a couple of hour