Stand Up - Smooth Rider Discussion

[Ccronks]

Just FYI

[AlaskaFox]

Thanks. Pity it's not a good song.

[joepsu0985]

Ah its not bad at all....I kind of like it...

[jay41]

Thanks for the heads up Connor. I like it too...

[slfairless]

Is there a post anywhere to dl this? I can't listen through the firewall.

[joepsu0985]

I want to hear the rest of the lyrics...I bet its going to be deep..

[tdowe99]

I like that riff.

[sdaltons]

Is it the same as the infamous clip from last week?

[jay41]

^Yeah it's the same

[Tinusch]

Interesting to say the least, it's got a pretty cool bluesy swagger to it. The piano gives the song some serious substance, I think. Not an incredibly captivating tune though, a little too "elevator" for me. I can hear the potential for this song to really build up to a crazy climax though.

[sdaltons]

^Yeah it's the same

:thumbsup Thanks, I can't listen right now. I liked what I heard from that song. Its so different. Its one of my favorites so far.

[pj4real29]

Thanks. Pity it's not a good song.

a lot better than dream girl IMO

[JUburton]

I like smooth rider. I think it could be pretty badass. From what I remember, all of them have a lot of live potential.

[nonewdirections]

Thanks. Pity it's not a good song.

:thumbsup :lol

[AlaskaFox]

a lot better than dream girl IMO

Well IMO Smooth Rider is the worst of those 'infamous' clips. It has started to grow on me a bit, but I don't think I'll ever love the song like I already do with Out of My Hands and Everybody Wake Up.

[AlaskaFox]

:thumbsup :lol

It's always good to see someone find your posts amusing. Even better when it's a member you respect. [/mutual admiration] ;)

[dmbstan]

it sounds like this clip could be the end of the song because of the way it fades out

[Mspacman14]

I don't think it's bad at all. And I think the raspy thing is on purpose. (phew)

[BustedJeff]

I think it's very strange. It has a ton of potential to either blow completely or be really awesome...I don't think there's any middle ground.

[killymagee2000]

I think it's very strange. It has a ton of potential to either blow completely or be really awesome...I don't think there's any middle ground.

My thoughts exactly.

There seems to be a prominent base sound too.

[sdaltons]

Having heard the first few clips and reading most of the listening party reviews, I'm starting to develop a theory about the album. Up until Everybody Wake Up, the songs seem to be pretty upbeat. But Out Of My Hands seems to be a segue into a different type of music:

Hello Again
Louisiana Bayou
Stolen Away on 55th and 3rd
You Might Die Trying
Steady As We Go
Hunger For The Great Light

Those songs all have the potential to be, well, less upbeat (based on the listening party reviews). The only snag is that Smooth Rider sounds like it might fit better in the second half.

Or maybe I just made all that up.

[darbini]

may bee

[TjMarnell]

I think it's very strange. It has a ton of potential to either blow completely or be really awesome...I don't think there's any middle ground.

:thumbsup

[MistreatedLewis]

I don't have a real opinion on this one yet. I have decided that I think I Did It is a better studio recording than American Baby though.

[Ruvo11]

out of all the clips from last week, i liked Smooth Rider the least...but i think it has probably the best live potential other than Stand Up

[MistreatedLewis]

out of all the clips from last week, i liked Smooth Rider the least...but i think it has probably the best live potential other than Stand Up

I can't wait for Out of My Hands live. I feel like it has Dreaming Tree-good potential.

[twostepchris]

too bad for a 42 second clip, they had to pick a part of the song that dissapears after 30 seconds....

but i like it. i want to hear the rest though

[lilc]

I like smooth rider. I think it could be pretty badass. From what I remember, all of them have a lot of live potential.

Yeah i believe smooth rider will be freakin off the hook for this tour.. so much energy can come from this song:D

[MistreatedLewis]

Yeah i believe smooth rider will be freakin off the hook for this tour.. so much energy can come from this song:D


I think it would be cool if there is a mad distortion violin jam at the end on the live version, kind of like the sound they produce on the studio recording of Jimi Thing. That would be off the hook.

[Noles20]

To those who don't like some of the clips, I think if you give them a chance, they will grow on you. Like many of Dave's songs do. There are plenty of DMB songs that I didn't necessarily like the first few times I heard them. After a few listens, they become songs you really like.

[JimiThing333]

So far the songs that they have posted have been pretty lame...Nothing upbeat or anything that catches me..Yeah i know that they are only 42 seconds but they said that this was the album that was going to bring them back to their roots.....Roots my ass....These songs in my opinion have not been up to par at all....I just hope that the rest of the songs are not this bad....What they need to do is get back Joyride,Sugar Will, and Crazy-Easy. Those songs sounded more like DMB material than this stuff

[cherone21]

I like this song a ton!! Butch will shine

[Ruvo11]

To those who don't like some of the clips, I think if you give them a chance, they will grow on you. Like many of Dave's songs do. There are plenty of DMB songs that I didn't necessarily like the first few times I heard them. After a few listens, they become songs you really like.

I totally agree with you...the first 2-3 times i listened to the clips I was like, "ehh, they're alright"...but after letting them play a few dozen more times, i found them going through my head when i wasn't listening, and i really liked them all...so first time through can sometimes not be the best indicator i guess.

[BustedJeff]

I can listen to that Stand Up clip from now until the album comes out, but I would still think it's quite possibly the worst 40 some-odd seconds I've ever heard the band produce.

The other clips are sounding a little better after a few listens.

[scoot_14]

I actually liked Smooth Rider a lot initially and still think it's going to be great. I love the Doors-like organ sounds at the end and the lyric "your daddy's crazy with a gun in his hand.." is pretty cool.

Totally different feel to it than I've ever heard from DMB and I think that's why people don't like it, seems like it may be a great song though for fans of music in general.

[dman0808]

i like the song. I think some aren't liking it because it's not innovative or "different". Cause in reality (based on the clip) it's not different. but it is very 70's rock in my opinion. I think it has tons of potential.

**EDIT** and by different, i mean different than anything we've heard from anyone. Because we were all spoiled with BTCS, because yes, that was different than anything out there, and we all keep this huge expectation for other albums to live up to that. And it'll all fall short

It makes me happy to hear that people have been disliking this clip the most of all the that got snagged up (i have yet to hear them, besides dream girl). But if this is the "worst" clip than i am happy cause, like i said i think it has tons of pontential.

rank so far:
Smooth Rider
American Baby
Dream Girl

(i know it's not fair to judge Smooth Rider or Dream Girl against American Baby since we haven't heard the full songs yet, but oh well)

I will admit though that the title is kind of blah. It makes me think of Easy Rider.
And same goes for Dream Girl, the title...very blah.

[msb3079]

i like it at first impression. and it's only a clip.

but what excites me the most - is that so far, all of these clips sounds very different. it sounds to be a "complex" album. (if that makes sense)
many of you are worried about this having an "Everyday outcome" but all of those songs sound sooo alike. these so far, sound different. each song has had something different to offer (and in only clips)

i'm likin' it so far...

[Orpheus]

so far, all of these clips sounds very different. it sounds to be a "complex" album. (if that makes sense)
many of you are worried about this having an "Everyday outcome" but all of those songs sound sooo alike. these so far, sound different. each song has had something different to offer
:thumbsup
I'll bet it's closer to "Crash" than any other DMB album when all's said and done.

[AlaskaFox]

:thumbsup
I'll bet it's closer to "Crash" than any other DMB album when all's said and done.

Yeah, it sounds like it'll be a mix of Crash and Some Devil to me.

[msb3079]

i think it will sound like Stand Up :lol

[Kyle#41_7985]

From a few of the reviews it was said that Smooth Rider is a pretty blah and skip worthy song. I really can't stand it. Dave singing about wild wild west crap just doesn't work for me. His vocals also just sound shallow and lame. I know it's just a clip, but overall this song won't be one that I'm dying to hear on the album.

[FJM005]

Smooth Rider and Dream Girl both sound promising.......

[bdrum992]

I love the song and all the new songs for that matter (except wake up, still deciding on that one). However, what differs me from a lot of other people is the realization that DMB is never going to make another BTCS or Under the Table. The band has matured and grown musically. I don't think that this is a bad thing. In fact, I don't WANT to hear another BTCS. Even though it is the best album dave has made, what would a band be if they could make only one type of music. They'd be like green day where EVERY song sounds the same. I love the new songs and think that everyone else will as soon as they realize that the band is different now (for the better). Another note is that for the most part BTCS, Crash, and Under The Table, Dave had already written around 1992, 91, and 93. Meaning that this "style" of DMB was written so long ago. The only real new stuff dave has written is Everyday and a couple on BS. Keep em comming DMB, can't wait to hear them all live

[Warehouse21]

Where are people getting all these clips from? All I've heard so far are Dream Girl and Smooth Rider.

[seek up and #41]

Where are people getting all these clips from? All I've heard so far are Dream Girl and Smooth Rider.

someone found dreamgirl, smooth rider, stand up, out of my hands, old dirt hill, and everybody wake up and other people put them on mp3s

[RetardedMonkey]

I personally like this clip. It reminds me of Peter Gabriel, but with a little darker feel to it. I have a feeling this one will be a favorite on tour.

[crushme36]

initially i wasn't a fan, but after hearing it several times, it has grown on me. I really dig it's bluesy feel. should be interesting what they do with this one on tour

[stef330]

It seems to me that the 5 new songs we heard this summer were very "normal DMB" which obviously we all like...batson may me wanting them to start pumping out a new sound so they have some variety i guess, it will prolly take us all a bit longer to appreciate the new sound

[Dagwin]

From a few of the reviews it was said that Smooth Rider is a pretty blah and skip worthy song. I really can't stand it. Dave singing about wild wild west crap just doesn't work for me. His vocals also just sound shallow and lame. I know it's just a clip, but overall this song won't be one that I'm dying to hear on the album.


I hear ya! I keep picturing a little shack at the end of a dirt road out in the west. Clint Eastwood runs out the back door, jumps on his horse, and rides away as the Sheriff comes after him on his horse.

I hate westerns, too!

[titleist017]

hello again----smooth rider would be badass!! I think that these two will be the best from the new album, but that's my opinion and I haven't heard the other songs that weren't released earlier last week......but who knows, still pumped about the new album though.

[reilly6491]

Does anybody think Smooth Rider sounds a little like the What You Are intros from 2003 minus the devil lyrics. I was just listening to the 7-3-03 intro the day the clips came out and that was the first thing that came to mind

[Hill1286]

i like the clips somewhat so far. i can definitely see it growing on me though cuz when i first heard some devil i didn't like it at all and now i really do like it. as for this clip, i think it kind of has a sly and the family stone feel with those funky keys, kind of like Thank You (falletin me be mice elf agin)

[titleist017]

Just imagine if hello again was the clip from the warehouse today and wasn't played last summer and we have never heard of it before, then I gurantee that most people would hate the country tune in the beginning. People would say, oh no, dmb is going country....what has Batson done to them. But we all know that song kicks ass live and it is one of the new favorites from the band. I know everyone has their own opinions but I am getting real sick and tired of a lot of people dissing the band and their producer. It's getting real old.

[dman0808]

I love the song and all the new songs for that matter (except wake up, still deciding on that one). However, what differs me from a lot of other people is the realization that DMB is never going to make another BTCS or Under the Table. The band has matured and grown musically. I don't think that this is a bad thing. In fact, I don't WANT to hear another BTCS. Even though it is the best album dave has made, what would a band be if they could make only one type of music. They'd be like green day where EVERY song sounds the same. I love the new songs and think that everyone else will as soon as they realize that the band is different now (for the better). Another note is that for the most part BTCS, Crash, and Under The Table, Dave had already written around 1992, 91, and 93. Meaning that this "style" of DMB was written so long ago. The only real new stuff dave has written is Everyday and a couple on BS. Keep em comming DMB, can't wait to hear them all live

BTCS was not writting around 92. Most of that was written in the studio in 98 (excluding Pig and Halloween) So that was a new sound. Not sure if you were a fan then or remember, but there were people who didn't like it at first cause it was a departure from their "normal" stuff at the time. Then all of Lillywhite/BS was written after that (mostly in 2000-2002). so that is "new" stuff as well. So to say Everyday is the only "new" stuff they have written, is completely off track. If that were the case i would not be looking to this album nearly as much.

[dman0808]

Does anybody think Smooth Rider sounds a little like the What You Are intros from 2003 minus the devil lyrics. I was just listening to the 7-3-03 intro the day the clips came out and that was the first thing that came to mind

yeah, that's been brought up at one point...someone even did a clip of one followed by the other. Definitely a similarity.

[lrhudson]

Smooth rider is the first clip I have liked so far. I will like the other songs too when I hear the full versions, just hard to really like a 40 second clip song. i hear "Devil's Wine" in it. Maybe use devils wine as a bridge between smooth rider and what you are, or replace what you are with last stop. thhhhhhheeeennnn segue into hello again after that!!!! theeeeeen into DIDO theeeeeeeen into blue water and after that me and julio which leads into seek up then close with a 40 minute two step. ohhh yeah, they are going to do that. I can see it!

[lrhudson]

well dang,,,somebody else made the devils wine point while i was typing it...anyyyways,,,two stop would be the tease closer,,,it would lead into pig, which would lead into dreaming tree, which would lead to all along the watchtower and lead into halloween, yep yep

[dmbslave]

I'm not feeling the song at all. But it's only a small clip so I can't really pass judgement until I hear the entire song. I can't wait!

[JaZzBounty]

The only thing I dislike is when he says "rider baby" at the end of the clip.

I just dont like that. But everything else I love

[alec]

Although I did not like any of the clips at first, they are all growing on me EXCEPT for smooth rider. It is actually growing on me in the other direction. Every time I hear it, I like it less. I can't belive that Joyride, Crazy-Easy or Sugar Will did not make the cut and Smooth Rider did.

I am looking forward to hearing STAND UP but this song is not looking promising to me.

And I personally do not buy into the not being able to judge a song buy a 40 second clip. It is like a movie preview, you see enough of it to basically know what it is about and you can make a good judgement if you want to see it or not. Same with these songs. Unless There is just a 30 second part of Smooth Rider that sounds like the clip and the rest sounds like THE LAST STOP or DREAMING TREE, etc.. then I can safely say that I do not like it at all. Also, if we got a 40 second clip of AMERICAN BABY, we would know what the 90% of the song sounds like, because it never really changes except for the jam at the end.

[Orpheus]

Unless There is just a 30 second part of Smooth Rider that sounds like the clip and the rest sounds like THE LAST STOP or DREAMING TREE, etc.. then I can safely say that I do not like it at all.

Those were masterpieces. I'm not expecting that. Hope I'm surprised, but I'm not expecting that.

Incidentally, I hated BTCS on the first listen. Once it got past DDTW, I just got more and more disappointed. I think I bottomed out at "Pig", which lyrically felt like a tired rehash of everything on UTTAD and Crash.

To quote Red, "That was my first impression of the man..."

[msb3079]

this song is definately up the alley of Hello Again

[AlaskaFox]

I personally like this clip. It reminds me of Peter Gabriel, but with a little darker feel to it. I have a feeling this one will be a favorite on tour.

I love Peter Gabriel, and I see little similarity between PG's music and Smooth Rider. That could be why I dislike the song ;)

[klobb]

ya this is similar to hello again, I really like it and i bet the rest of the lyrics are awesome. I think the chorus will be awesome in this song too.

[msb3079]

its sounds kind of aggressive but also soft or maybe "smooth" at the same time

[DomM41]

just got my f'ing volume working. Potential. Need/want to hear more. THis is a big tease to me, thinking about not listening anymore ( like I can control it). Much better then Dream Girl IMO, but I was teased by dream girl also. Excited, deff a new sound IMO. Like some other ANT said, I don't mind a new sound at all, just go with the flow

[AdamCU81]

This whole album so far sounds like overproduced fake music that one would expect to hear behind pop. They've got Carter sounding like a drum machine with obnoxious sound effects. I don't know what they did to Dave's vocals, but I find the spacial quailities annoying. I really hope there's something special coming up, or maybe smashing myself over the head with a hammer would make these lyrics more appealing. It's funny because in the interviews Dave talks about how they spent so little time writing these songs.......it shows.

[twostep66]

i'm liking it...but at the same time, it is overproduced. one of the big reasons i got into dmb was because almost all of the songs were better live than in the studio. i did it was the first real exception, and just like this, it's overproduced, layered, and echoed. This has potential tho. I see smooth rider being different than it sounds on the clip, but it could be good.

[clayj41]

I didn't listen to the new clip, but from what I heard last week I thought that Smooth Rider was pretty decent. Much better than Dreamgirl in my opinion

[Orpheus]

This whole album so far sounds like overproduced fake music that one would expect to hear behind pop. They've got Carter sounding like a drum machine with obnoxious sound effects. I don't know what they did to Dave's vocals, but I find the spacial quailities annoying.

Then go to the concerts and don't buy the album.

I really hope there's something special coming up, or maybe smashing myself over the head with a hammer would make these lyrics more appealing. It's funny because in the interviews Dave talks about how they spent so little time writing these songs.......it shows.

I think they're going for spontaneity and a more improvisational sound, two things we know they excel at.

I'm ready for a little more fun and little less morose dwelling. Bring it on, Dave, you goofy bastard... :D

[TrippinMonkey41]

I really didn't get a good first impression of this song, to be honest I kind of hated the short clip that I did hear.(But granted it is only 40 seconds) Here's to it hopefully being better live.

Brad

Edit: Ok after a couple of listens it is starting to slowly grow on me.

[Orpheus]

Edit: Ok after a couple of listens it is starting to slowly grow on me.

Same thing happened to me with AB. First reaction was immediate revulsion and disappointment. Then I got over myself, played it few more times, found the groove, realized it was the old DMB I knew and loved... *sigh* Can't wait till May. :o

[AlaskaFox]

Same thing happened to me with AB. First reaction was immediate revulsion and disappointment. Then I got over myself, played it few more times, found the groove, realized it was the old DMB I knew and loved... *sigh* Can't wait till May. :o

No matter how hard I try I can't get any love for this song. It's just plain bad.

[CrashInto41]

eh its definatley different sounding than what im used to from them, but I cant really judge hearing only 30 seconds.

[CarterBoydBear]

I can't get the clip to play but smooth rider was my least favorite from what I heard when the clips came out the other day. I'm interested to see what it turns out like on the album.

[taphntm]

whoah, this song clip is way better than the other two I think

[billy_tripper]

This is my favorite clip of the ones we have heard so far. Hands down.

[davehead34]

whoah, this song clip is way better than the other two I think

:thumbsup

Just listened to it. I prefer Smooth Rider to Dreamgirl any day. I'm thinking that it might have some great potential for a live act. Butch's keys sound sharp and Fonzie's bass is definitely making its presence known. Overall, pretty cool. Definitely looking forward to the rest of the song and the album's clips.

[MistreatedLewis]

Then I got over myself, played it few more times, found the groove, realized it was the old DMB I knew and loved... *sigh* Can't wait till May. :o

Really? I don't think it sounds anything like old school DMB, which is not a criticism....

[Dankguitar]

does somebody who attended a listening party remember if theres more to this song, or is the chorus just dave singing "I'm a smooth rider baby"? Cuz if it is then I'll be real pissed because this song seems like it has potential.

[Cordevil95]

Overproduced??? I don't think this album will even come close to the "overprudction" of BTCS.

P.S. I like BTCS's production

[yankeeMan888]

is there anyone that can hook me up with this clip on AIM or something without getting the boards in trouble. i really wanna hear this clip. thanks sn is golmankoman

[OCMarsh]

I am very surprised they are putting the clips up in the wrong order. I was expecting Old Dirt Hill today. Maybe we'll get Stolen Away or Steady As We Go tomorrow.


Of the clips that slipped out they have put my two least favorite first. For those of you who haven't heard the rest, it will only get better. IMO much better.

[MistreatedLewis]

I am very surprised they are putting the clips up in the wrong order. I was expecting Old Dirt Hill today. Maybe we'll get Stolen Away or Steady As We Go tomorrow.


Of the clips that slipped out they have put my two least favorite first. For those of you who haven't heard the rest, it will only get better. IMO much better.

:thumbsup

[AdamCU81]

Overproduced??? I don't think this album will even come close to the "overprudction" of BTCS.

P.S. I like BTCS's production


I wouldn't consider BTCS overproduced.....it's creative, intricate and well thought out. What I consider overproduced is when the vocals no longer sound natural and the instruments turn into a homogenous backing track for those vocals. It sounds like they compensated lack of effort with computer technology.

[ncdude2k3]

lack of effort? give me a fucking break. they worked on this album for a long time. Every band member was involved in the writing process.

[Noles20]

I really think these songs or clips grow on you after awhile. But most of DMB's songs are that way if you ask me.

[lalag4dmb]

I liked this clip. It's my favorite of what I've heard (the Dream Girl clip and AB).

[ethaxton]

Pretty cool clip, like it a lot more than Dreamgirl. I'll be interested to see how this song pans out live.

[bense27]

It's alright. But I don't like the way he says "smooth rider". I am not sure why.

[AdamCU81]

lack of effort? give me a fucking break. they worked on this album for a long time. Every band member was involved in the writing process.


Yes, lack of effort. They didn't work on this album for a long time. Don't take it so personally. They're just reaching for a different audience.

[Dagwin]

It's alright. But I don't like the way he says "smooth rider". I am not sure why.

Probably because it sounds gay?

[CornellDMBfan]

To those who don't like some of the clips, I think if you give them a chance, they will grow on you. Like many of Dave's songs do. There are plenty of DMB songs that I didn't necessarily like the first few times I heard them. After a few listens, they become songs you really like.
:thumbsup my sentiments exactly. plus, we're just hearing the tail end of the song, which kinda sucks. but even though it's the end, I dig it

[Kyle#41_7985]

Then go to the concerts and don't buy the album.

since this is a discussion thread we're allowed to say pro's and con's about a certain song. If we just said good things about everything it'd be pretty freakin boring around here.



I think they're going for spontaneity and a more improvisational sound, two things we know they excel at.


UTTAD, Crash, and BTCS all required more time in the studio, Dave writing and rewriting lyrics, and more tension and hard work. Spending little time in the studio and changing up their style didn't work so well last time around (Everyday). I'm one of the ones that is concerned with how fast these sessions were.

[Jordan#41]

I really like how this song sounds...

[SpikeSparrow]

UTTAD, Crash, and BTCS all required more time in the studio, Dave writing and rewriting lyrics, and more tension and hard work. Spending little time in the studio and changing up their style didn't work so well last time around (Everyday). I'm one of the ones that is concerned with how fast these sessions were.


They'll have plenty of time to grow on stage.

[dmbnut36]

I can't wait for Out of My Hands live. I feel like it has Dreaming Tree-good potential.


Where did you get Out of my Hands from? It hasn't been posted on the Warehouse website yet. Can someone post it please?

[CornellDMBfan]

Where did you get Out of my Hands from? It hasn't been posted on the Warehouse website yet. Can someone post it please?
negative . . . it leaked last week, but someone cleaned it up and now it's illegal to post it. you'll just have to wait until it's posted on WH (probably sometime this week)

[dmbnut36]

negative . . . it leaked last week, but someone cleaned it up and now it's illegal to post it. you'll just have to wait until it's posted on WH (probably sometime this week)

Thanks for being nice about it and not flaming me. :)

[CornellDMBfan]

Thanks for being nice about it and not flaming me. :)
no worries, man . . . I'm not a "flamer." hahahaha . . .

[bartender1162]

Probably because it sounds gay?
:lol

[bartender1162]

UTTAD, Crash, and BTCS all required more time in the studio, Dave writing and rewriting lyrics, and more tension and hard work. Spending little time in the studio and changing up their style didn't work so well last time around (Everyday). I'm one of the ones that is concerned with how fast these sessions were.
agreed

[Noles20]

They'll have plenty of time to grow on stage.


Isn't that what matters most???

[JonahB41]

Yes, lack of effort. They didn't work on this album for a long time. Don't take it so personally. They're just reaching for a different audience.

i agree and disagree with the new audience part. although the band appreciates any new fans who come for the music (its all about the music dave said, to him theres no genres, just good music and not so good music), i think theyre anticipating that the old school fans will stick with them wherever theyre evolution leads. its been said so many times on these boards that this is an evolving band. some people get it and some people dont. i dont think theyre reaching for anything except whatever grooves theyre feeling in the studio (even if those grooves are sometimes batson-flavored). some of its pretty sugarry, fuck it, its still got dmb written all over it from daves vocals to the overall feel, and im diggin it

j

[Jordan#41]

I like Dreamgirl best from all 3 songs that have been released to us

[dmb_lover4136]

This goes out to all the people that say they hate the new songs such as Smooth Rider , Dream Girl, and all of them. They are no sense in juding now this is just studio. Wait till we hear them live at least because that is when the band really works on the songs, the songs build up and who knows all of you all judgeing the new album already, this might turn out to be some of the best songs from the band you have heard after they get built up live.
Mike

[nonewdirections]

This goes out to all the people that say they hate the new songs such as Smooth Rider , Dream Girl, and all of them. They are no sense in juding now this is just studio. Wait till we hear them live at least because that is when the band really works on the songs, the songs build up and who knows all of you all judgeing the new album already, this might turn out to be some of the best songs from the band you have heard after they get built up live.
Mike

so why bother buying the album then? everytime the band comes out with something that is less than stellar, people say "listen to it live, it'll be better!" nine times out of ten, that is perfectly accurate ... but on the other hand, dmb is perfectly capable of creating a good studio album, they just haven't done it recently. it seems to me that saying "if this isn't to your liking it'll be better live" is a copout for admitting that something just isn't that great.

[ah1252]

After hearing all the new clips, I have to agree with those of you who love the new stuff and are really happy to hear fresh stuff from the band. I love what I've heard so far. Its very different, very fresh, and to me its very exciting to see how they will all develope throughout the tour. So I say :thumbsup. Good Job DMB
Old Dirt Hill and Smooth Rider are my favorites so far.

[Kyle#41_7985]

They'll have plenty of time to grow on stage.


I wasn't debating that. I was simply talking about what kind of recording sessions have produced great DMB albums.

[jonniedmb]

am i the only one who hasnt been able to listen to this clip off the warehouse today? when i click the link i can only get boyds preview of true reflections.. :BANG

[Mickey Carson]

Sounds interesting...I enjoy the clip moreso than Dream Girl at this point anyway.

[chrisandiego]

It would be nice if this song clocked in at 8 minutes. Just imagine them posting the new album tracklisting with minutes, and 5 of them are over 8 minutes long :)

[Cordevil95]

I like it... it should rock live :)

[Sniper15]

so why bother buying the album then? everytime the band comes out with something that is less than stellar, people say "listen to it live, it'll be better!" nine times out of ten, that is perfectly accurate ... but on the other hand, dmb is perfectly capable of creating a good studio album, they just haven't done it recently. it seems to me that saying "if this isn't to your liking it'll be better live" is a copout for admitting that something just isn't that great.


Have you hd anything positive to say in any new album threads besides the fact that you love BTCS?

[granny21]

really smooth beat....i definitly think this song will be a favorite = of mine....this song will rock live

[msb3079]

i agree and disagree with the new audience part. although the band appreciates any new fans who come for the music (its all about the music dave said, to him theres no genres, just good music and not so good music), i think theyre anticipating that the old school fans will stick with them wherever theyre evolution leads. its been said so many times on these boards that this is an evolving band. some people get it and some people dont. i dont think theyre reaching for anything except whatever grooves theyre feeling in the studio (even if those grooves are sometimes batson-flavored). some of its pretty sugarry, fuck it, its still got dmb written all over it from daves vocals to the overall feel, and im diggin it

j

:thumbsup

[DaFiredancerGuy]

This is my favorite clip so far. I love blues and "smooth rider" has got that head bobbing bluesy feel to it. I've always wondered if dmb could pull off that sound. They've hit a lot of different genres with their songs and it's good to hear some blues in there. Get Warren Haynes in on that song and we've got an instant hit.

[dmb2much40]

What I consider overproduced is when the vocals no longer sound natural and the instruments turn into a homogenous backing track for those vocals.

smooth rider sounds the most overproduced of the bunch. i can't stand dave's voice on this. just let the man sing. no need to distort/layer his voice.

[shoelessjoe910]

smooth rider sounds the most overproduced of the bunch. i can't stand dave's voice on this. just let the man sing. no need to distort/layer his voice.
There's no distortion on his voice in this clip. He has a "raspy" sounding voice for it...which is very "bluesy" in nature.

[AlaskaFox]

I am very surprised they are putting the clips up in the wrong order. I was expecting Old Dirt Hill today. Maybe we'll get Stolen Away or Steady As We Go tomorrow.


Of the clips that slipped out they have put my two least favorite first. For those of you who haven't heard the rest, it will only get better. IMO much better.

:thumbsup :thumbsup

[wiebrod]

After hearing these clips, the more and more I hear them the more I like them. I think smooth rider is different but for some reason it appeals to me. The AB video in my opinion is outstanding and making me want to hear more an so are these clips. Some of you are saying that these first two clips aren't the best from the album, that makes me even more exicted for the rest. Just my two cents worth.

[TurboPGT]

I'm wondering when we'll hear a clip from tracks 9 thru 14.

i really want to hear louisiana bayou

[wiebrod]

I'm wondering when we'll hear a clip from tracks 9 thru 14.

i really want to hear louisiana bayou
I really want to hear that also just because of the name of the song. That might be one of the more interesting song names they have come up with in my opinion and it makes you wonder what they song will be like.

[TurboPGT]

According to Dave its fairly risque

[AdamCU81]

If the person who wrote me, "I'd be glad to take that hammer to your head for you. douche bag." concerning my comment on page 3 has half a sack of marbles, they'll come forward and explain to me why my comments are off base. Sending me an anonymous threat is quite a bitch move, and calling me names really hurts my feelings. Show thyself so we may rumble! :violent :lol

[mynameistimmy]

To me "Smooth Rider" has a very classic rock sound. So of course it's gonna be good!

[sonofsuns34]

super modified sugar will :evil

[SeaneeRo66]

This tune's going to rock. I know everyone keeps saying wait til you hear the songs live, but to me this definitely applies to this song. Dave's into it but keeps it kind of chill on the clip a lot like studio DDTW. I think this song has a lot of emotion, and I expect him to really belt it out in concert. People seem to be split on this song. Once they play it at night near the end of set this summer everyone will write their show comments and list it as a highlight.

[TobiasClown]

smooth rider and out of my hands are awesoem
after seeing the ab video i love the song ab

Jack

[lilc]

This tune's going to rock. I know everyone keeps saying wait til you hear the songs live, but to me this definitely applies to this song. Dave's into it but keeps it kind of chill on the clip a lot like studio DDTW. I think this song has a lot of emotion, and I expect him to really belt it out in concert. People seem to be split on this song. Once they play it at night near the end of set this summer everyone will write their show comments and list it as a highlight.

well said :thumbsup ,

:ggoat

[elliot]

I really want to hear that also just because of the name of the song. That might be one of the more interesting song names they have come up with in my opinion and it makes you wonder what they song will be like.

I'm also really excited about Louisiana Bayou. The name sounds like it has the potential to be an incredible song. You remember the clip from the studio where Batson says to Dave give me something funky, and Dave starts playing this really great riff on the guitar? I feel like that might be Louisiana Bayou and it'll be a mix between southern rock and funk. For me, this is the best title on the album.

[wiebrod]

I'm also really excited about Louisiana Bayou. The name sounds like it has the potential to be an incredible song. You remember the clip from the studio where Batson says to Dave give me something funky, and Dave starts playing this really great riff on the guitar? I feel like that might be Louisiana Bayou and it'll be a mix between southern rock and funk. For me, this is the best title on the album.
I hope you are right about that riff he played in that video clip, that was one of my favorite from the videos we have seen. I was thinking the same thing and hoping it would be Louisiana Bayou just because of the name of the song. Who knows what the song will be like or if that riff will be on that song or any on the album, but I guess I'm the most excited to see what this tune sounds like.

[darbini]

You remember the clip from the studio where Batson says to Dave give me something funky, and Dave starts playing this really great riff on the guitar? I feel like that might be Louisiana Bayou and it'll be a mix between southern rock and funk.


You see, I think that riff was pretty damn weak. It was Ants Marching but with a splash of Jimi Thing. Go and listen to it again and tell me it isn't a slightly altered version of Ants Marching. One riff that I would love to see somewhere on the album is the end song clip from Video 4, now that's the DMB machine firing on all cylinders. :hump

[Mave Datthews]

:mad dammit i missed this one. :lorraine

[wiebrod]

You see, I think that riff was pretty damn weak. It was Ants Marching but with a splash of Jimi Thing. Go and listen to it again and tell me it isn't a slightly altered version of Ants Marching. One riff that I would love to see somewhere on the album is the end song clip from Video 4, now that's the DMB machine firing on all cylinders. :hump
I do like the riff he plays earlier in the video but I also do agree with you on that riff that they have on the end that video is great sounding. That is something I would really love to hear on the album somewhere, there are just so many little pieces that I love from what we have heard so far that it is making me so excited to see what is actually on the album. I guess the people marketing for DMB have done a great building anticipation, well I guess at least for me anyways.

[MexicoDMB]

It's on the album site right now...and yeah...it reminded me of the end to sugar will for some reason...not that musically it's the same, but it gives me that same sugar will kill me feel...which is a good thing

[tyler1389]

[/QUOTE] super modified sugar will :evil

I'm pretty sure its sugar will. listen to the guitar.

[chalktwo]

One riff that I would love to see somewhere on the album is the end song clip from Video 4, now that's the DMB machine firing on all cylinders. :hump

So true. Plus I'd love to hear that twelve string on the album.

[tx_dmbfan_42]

just to let everyone one that Smooth Rider Clip is on the Studio Site

http://www.*******tudioalbum.com/

[chenn123]

Sweet! I think I'm gonna like this song alot, its just got that feel to it...

[tx_dmbfan_42]

nice smooth drinking song!

[Noles20]

looks like they will be a few days behind the WH page.

[Scotty_L]

They took Dream girl off, though. I wish they'd leave them all on there. Oh well. Just wait 19 days.

[tx_dmbfan_42]

They took Dream girl off, though. I wish they'd leave them all on there. Oh well. Just wait 19 days.

well if you need the clip i have it!!!
and all the other ones that came out too!!

[sonofsuns34]

I'm pretty sure its sugar will. listen to the guitar.[/QUOTE]

exactly, you can hear it if you listen and block out some of the other band members... any musicians out there hearing the same thing?

[Scotty_L]

well if you need the clip i have it!!!
and all the other ones that came out too!!

Actually I do too. I was just saying for the benefit of thse who didn't get them.

[MexicoDMB]

haha... I hear sugar will too but i said "not musically" to shield myself from being flamed by any musicians that might say...I'm a musician, you guys are silly, but i hear it as well :monkey

[dmb2much40]

Plus I'd love to hear that twelve string on the album.

:thumbsup

[jayman414]

i really like this song. i think it has some good potential this summer


jason

[tx_dmbfan_42]

im thinking that it might slow the show down with this song when he plays it

[Statechamp41]

I'm a big fan

[msb3079]

after not hearing the clip for a few days then listening right now....

sounds so smoooth and sweet! gonna be a great song i think

[clagg12]

Is this the one with Dave on the piano? :eek

[Jimithing2005]

i hate to say this, but it sounds like crap, even songs from Everyday beat this...sad....

[shoelessjoe910]

Is this the one with Dave on the piano? :eek
No, it is not. That is "Steady As We Go."

[msb3079]

i hate to say this, but it sounds like crap, even songs from Everyday beat this...sad....

how many times have you listened? i mean saying all ED songs are better is kinda harsh. haha. it is definately a different sound from DMB - maybe you aren't ready for it yet :lol

i love it

[Jimithing2005]

how many times have you listened? i mean saying all ED songs are better is kinda harsh. haha. it is definately a different sound from DMB - maybe you aren't ready for it yet :lol

i love it


i thought Dream Girl was alright, but this album seems to be full of musical cliches, which i attribute to the mainstream producer, because lets face it, mainstream music today sucks, frankly, this album terrifies me, it will either be great, or another Everday, mabey even worse....

[SideshowRob]

i like how coarse Dave seems in this song... like hes singing straight from the streets of Amsterdam... this is Dave as Dave...

[DMBfan41]

Thanks. Pity it's not a good song.

way to judge a song from 30 seconds

[DreemingTree41]

yikes... ive been listening to DMB since RTT first came out.. and i dont like this smooth rider one bit.... american baby is quite alright.... and dream girl i see lots of potential... but this one.... just doesnt cut it for me right now... hopefully i can grow to like it after i hear the full version :confused

[DomM41]

i like the new sound, different, change isn't always bad

[lilc]

i like how coarse Dave seems in this song... like hes singing straight from the streets of Amsterdam... this is Dave as Dave...

straight out of the streets of Amsterdam where the best herb is sold and smizoked...can you explain "coarse" to me? do you mean how laid back dave m. seems in th e song?

[bigfatblackcat]

i thought Dream Girl was alright, but this album seems to be full of musical cliches, which i attribute to the mainstream producer, because lets face it, mainstream music today sucks, frankly, this album terrifies me, it will either be great, or another Everday, mabey even worse....

WORSE than Everyday??? Ha, ha, ha...

Now, we know THAT could NEVER happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:lol

[jonniedmb]

WORSE than Everyday??? Ha, ha, ha...

Now, we know THAT could NEVER happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:lol

everyday was a great cd in my opinion.. it wasn't exactly up to the standards they might have set in their previous efforts.. but i enjoy serveral tracks on the cd none the less.. i respect the fact that they are trying new things.. also i think smooth rider kicks my ass.. it's just too damn cool to not like.. it's been said a million times.. if you want the old dmb.. listen to the old dmb.. alot of time has past since their last "WIcKED AwEsOmEE!!" cd.. with time people change.. the emotions dave wrote about back in the day are no longer variables.. he's got kids, he's happy, etc. etc.. the band is playing around with sounds.. because that's what musicians like to do.. there's no point in pleasing any of their fans unless they please themselves.. it's their career and unless there happy there's no point in slaving on the road and in the studio.. thus far i'd have to say the clips are growing on me.. at first glance i found btcs weird too.. with the exception of crush and the stone.. almost every song on the CD had to grow on me and after a couple weeks in solidified itself as one of my favorite cd's of all time..

[evanhyde]

Smooth Rider is the best released clip thus far.

[lilc]

Smooth Rider is the best released clip thus far.

yeah i agree 100%

[Noles20]

I still can't believe that the whole song is only 2:18!

[dmb2much40]

I still can't believe that the whole song is only 2:18!

that's shorter than the intro to seek up :lol

[bdfresh62]

This song is awesome. I hate that is so short on the album, but I'm sure they will legthen it live. Its got such a tight groove. I could totally drive with my seat leaned back nodding my head to this song.

[Carbigio]

This is the only song (other than AB) that I am listening to until Tuesday (I picked a random one) so I am going to comment on it.

I LOVE IT. Great, groovin bluesy song. I think they ended it early on the CD because they know it is going to jam out. Sooooo many possibilities. Roi can come in with a soulful sax solo (baritone) while that guitar riff just stays steady as rain....

I'm glad I picked this one to listen to from the stream. I'm even more excited than I was. Anyone else dig this song?

I guess it helps that I love blues-rock. Simple lyrics with a driving, bassy groove.

[sonofsuns34]

i dig this song, when i listen to it for some reason i think of an interracial relationship somewhere in the south...

[ZyGuy]

I like this song, has a sort of gangster/Dick Tracey vibe to it :lol . I'm not a pimp by any definition of the word, but this song sure does make me feel like one. It's one of my fav's on the album and yes, hopefully it will be much longer live, maybe he'll add some more lyrics to it as well. Never know what he could come up with on tour.

[Steve Dawg]

least favorite song on the record

[summerheart]

i heart "smooth rider" so much b/c it's so different. and i think dave's gravelly voice is teh sex. yesssss.

[summerheart]

i dig this song, when i listen to it for some reason i think of an interracial relationship somewhere in the south...
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that's EXACTLY what it reminds me of. totally. RIGHT ON. :D

[Two Stepper01]

I like this song, has a sort of gangster/Dick Tracey vibe to it :lol . I'm not a pimp by any definition of the word, but this song sure does make me feel like one.

i agree with that, this is a gangster song. it's one of those songs, kind of like the later jams of sugar will, that's just awesome to listen to in your car on nice summer days...such as today. anyway, like it, probably one of my faves on the album