Stand Up - Louisiana Bayou Discussion

[Nitro1515]

Its up...

[augustuszb]

Interesting

[goochylittlepig]

damn i wanted to be first
and this song is fucking cool. i cant wait to hear how hello again flows in to this!!!

[JimiThang1]

Wow going straight to the clubs! haha this is interesting.

[timg1414]

i dunno thats a weird sound for dmb

[JaZzBounty]

Woot!

oh and Fricken Awesome!!!

[shoelessjoe910]

It's not up for me yet!

[Nitro1515]

I like it, very groovin

[FJM005]

sweet! thanks for the heads-up!

[BeQuietAndDrive]

Definitely the weirdest track so far. This is gonna take a few listens.

Boyd is using some really weird effects.

[JUburton]

Weird...The mix sounded terrible, unless you weren't supposed to hear the vocals clearly at that point.

[BDJCL3]

Can someone describe it more? Cool guitar work? electric or acoustic?

[Scizzi]

I love it! It's so cool! This CD sounds like a CD we can just roll down the windows and cruise with the speakers blasting (Not that we dont do that already) ;-)

[snyddogg430]

Are there words in there somewhere?

[timg1414]

i love the fiddle def acoustic violin

[road_designer]

what are they calling it in the link?

[Cortez 4]

Interesting

DITTO

[warehouseguy]

i cant get it to play on my windows media player, anyone have the clip in a diff form

[BeQuietAndDrive]

Can someone describe it more? Cool guitar work? electric or acoustic?

Definitely electric with some really weird effects.

Boyd also is using weird effects.

This, to me, sounds like the end of the song because so many sounds are layered together.

Definitely the most interesting of the tracks.

[BeQuietAndDrive]

what are they calling it in the link?

lb

:bounce

[road_designer]

lb

:bounce

thanks.

[JimiThang1]

Can someone describe it more? Cool guitar work? electric or acoustic?
Heavy bass and backing electric. Southern rock influenced somewhat.

[som3d3vil34]

This is a strange sound for DMB...I think I might like it tho

[BDJCL3]

Definitely electric with some really weird effects.

Boyd also is using weird effects.

This, to me, sounds like the end of the song because so many sounds are layered together.

Definitely the most interesting of the tracks.

It does sound interesting. Thanks for the explanation though

[JaZzBounty]

"Down by the Bayou!"

[jay41]

This is gonna be fun live

[Dagwin]

I think the song is ok, but again with the drum-machine! The songs would all be much better if Carter was his old self. Maybe he will be live.

[timg1414]

good boyd jam i can feel it

[jjblunt]

defintitley a lot of layers...but what a cool sound...





think i'll get my preordered copy delivered in canada before i break down and buy it anyway???


gorge '05

[seekup31]

thats funky guys

[road_designer]

very different indeed. hmmm :freak or :confused or :D could go either way.

[GruvnDMBRiddims]

Not that upbeat (prolly around 95 bpm), yet not mellow. Very dirty/gritty, funky/groovy and weird...just weird. Almost sounds 70-ish to me ala Sly & Family Stone. Lots of layered vocals (some high pitched background vocals), 70's electric guitar riff...can see lots of jamming on this one.

EDIT: This tune is definitely ear candy. Cannot wait to hear/see it live... "Lou-isi-ana Bay-ouuuu".
May the funk be with you .... "stage right"-(fist pump)

[killymagee2000]

This is gonna be fun live

Definitely.

[BeQuietAndDrive]

I think the song is ok, but again with the drum-machine! The songs would all be much better if Carter was his old self. Maybe he will be live.

Well, remember Carter saying in an interview that not being so "busy" leaves room for more percussion.

Whether that means he'll open up live (which he probably will), I don't know.

And I remember someone saying from the listening parties that Boyd lays down a "down-home country jam" at the end :thumbsup

[thewarehouse1]

this is some good stuff. i like it a lot.

[jjblunt]

And I remember someone saying from the listening parties that Boyd lays down a "down-home country jam" at the end ......



SWEEEEEET...lets hope so

[seekup755]

'it's a shame to lose your way as a child'

[darbini]

I'll answer some questions for this :D




darb1881@yahoo.com

[road_designer]

I'll answer some questions for this :D




darb1881@yahoo.com

you have mail.

[shoelessjoe910]

This is really interesting...I really like the layered vocals and that piano is rockin'!!! Boyd is great! I can see this closing a show or two!

[dmb@uvm]

Damn! Im feelin that one!!! :D

[JonDMB]

How the eff is this going to transfer live? It like doesn't really even have any words...its so over produced its ridiculous.

[road_designer]

"trying to play with the cancer streams"

[JaZzBounty]

Carter is always just doing a lot of the same nomally in any song during vocal, we've heard 40 seconds or so of the songs I'm willing to be a lot that he lets loose a lot in different songs.

Though I also think it almost has a rap beat to it which I don't really like because it's simplistic. So yea I'm inbetween here lol

[Dagwin]

Well, remember Carter saying in an interview that not being so "busy" leaves room for more percussion.

Whether that means he'll open up live (which he probably will), I don't know.

And I remember someone saying from the listening parties that Boyd lays down a "down-home country jam" at the end :thumbsup

No... What Carter meant was that by toning down his trap play (which would mean drum-kit play... snare, bass, tom-toms, hi-hat, ride and crash cymbals). Percussion, in the context he was using the word, means everything other than the "kit" (e.g. wind chimes, cow bells, bongos, timbales, tamborines, wood blocks, etc.). So he meant that he could play the percussion parts right along with the "trap" parts (on the album itself). He wasn't referring to anything "live."

I am praying to GOD that he plays like he used to on these songs "live." If he does, I think I will really enjoy all of the songs. If he doesn't, then I may only like 1 or 2 songs. I've said it before... Drums are VERY important to me (being that I've been a drummer for 22 years, and that's what got me interested in DMB in the first place).

[TrippinMonkey41]

:thumbsdow Sorry I'm all about this new sound and new direction but this song hit a slick spot in the road and flew off of it. Just my humble opinion.

Brad

[shoelessjoe910]

How the eff is this going to transfer live? It like doesn't really even have any words...its so over produced its ridiculous.
I'm sure this is an "end-breakdown" thing....I doubt it's a verse or anything. Kind of like the end of Stay.

[BeQuietAndDrive]

How the eff is this going to transfer live? It like doesn't really even have any words...its so over produced its ridiculous.

I'm thinking this is like the end of the song where it all kinda "melts together" so to speak.

Definitely interesting to say the least. As the longest song on the album, LB has a lot of room to do some different stuff.

[DaWarehouse418]

I'm listening....80 times, I'm listening....but LYRICS ANYONE???

[JonDMB]

I'm sure this is an "end-breakdown" thing....I doubt it's a verse or anything. Kind of like the end of Stay.
Good thinking, I hope you're right.

[seekup31]

How the eff is this going to transfer live? It like doesn't really even have any words...its so over produced its ridiculous.

...did you ever think that maybe it was the way it was written?

[GruvnDMBRiddims]

"stage right"-(fist pump)
I mean stage left...
I can def. see 'Roi, Boyd jamming the hell outta this one. I'm taking a liking to the more bluegrass/folk-ish sound of DMB: Hello Again, Louisiana Bayou, Grace is Gone, Two Step...

[road_designer]

I'm sure this is an "end-breakdown" thing....I doubt it's a verse or anything. Kind of like the end of Stay.

:thumbsup exactly. this is the end.

[Kyle#41_7985]

it's taken me a couple listens to be able to figure out even what to make of this song. I"m really digging this though. I hope they can pull this off live.


this shoulda been the first single...anyone agree?

[Orpheus]

I'm getting really tired of the phrase "over-produced"...

Bear in mind that Dave's first album he ever bought was Magical Mystery Tour. These guys don't have a problem with exploiting studio effects. That's why you *make* a studio album! :)

[BeQuietAndDrive]

I'm listening....80 times, I'm listening....but LYRICS ANYONE???

Erm... I think he says "Bayou" in there somewhere :p

[Bluedaze21]

I think the song is ok, but again with the drum-machine! The songs would all be much better if Carter was his old self. Maybe he will be live.

The drum machine analogy makes me twitch a little bit. I think it is good that Carter is pulling back a bit for this album- especially if it will be supplemented with some nice percussion work. But it also prevents him from bastardizing himself (which IMO he did slightly too much with his four stroke fills and Dennis Chamber crossover cymbal work in the '04 tour). Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Carter, and he has more technical facility than I could ever hope for, but consider that the genius of Carter at work here is that he's playing less.....because some sage advice in the studio is- "sometimes less is more." And I think it's interesting to see this out of him.

[darbini]

you have mail.


I'll hit you up but I have to spread some first, thank you very much

[jjblunt]

I'm getting really tired of the phrase "over-produced"...

Bear in mind that Dave's first album he ever bought was Magical Mystery Tour. These guys don't have a problem with exploiting studio effects. That's why you *make* a studio album! :)


:thumbsup

[Kyle#41_7985]

can anyone figure out all these lyrics?

[shoelessjoe910]

I'm getting really tired of the phrase "over-produced"...

Bear in mind that Dave's first album he ever bought was Magical Mystery Tour. These guys don't have a problem with exploiting studio effects. That's why you *make* a studio album! :)
A-FUCKING-MEN!!!!

[pmag78]

This one is going to be really cool performed live. Has the most hip-hop, R & B feel to it.
I'm digging on it.

[Whootman]

Now where can we WOO in this song? Louisiana Bayou, WOOO!!! Anyone?

[dmbosw41]

that song is badass

[johnbro23]

I'll answer some questions for this :D




darb1881@yahoo.com
What questions are you going to answer?

[Kyle#41_7985]

This song is freakin fantastic, or at least the clip is.


And no woo's please

[twostep721]

when i clicked the link and the song started playing, i was afraid i clicked something wrong and it wasn't the right song. i have to say, this does not sound like dave matthews band to me, but as always, i'm going to wait for the album to come out before i actually criticize. i'm very interested to hear how the rest of the songs sound, because of course, 40 second clips really can't give anyone an accurate description of the album. couple more weeks, guys!

[seekup31]

when i clicked the link and the song started playing, i was afraid i clicked something wrong and it wasn't the right song. i have to say, this does not sound like dave matthews band to me, but as always, i'm going to wait for the album to come out before i actually criticize. i'm very interested to hear how the rest of the songs sound, because of course, 40 second clips really can't give anyone an accurate description of the album. couple more weeks, guys!

you should get this show http://www.antsmarching.org/tour/ViewShow.php?ShowID=2716

dave explains in the interview what you dont get

[greeni]

can anyone figure out all these lyrics?

I'll throw some out there... feel free to add/edit/improve!



down by the bayou
trying to think, but can't
it's a shame to lose your way
?
see my story again
it's a shame to lose ?
?
it's a shame to lose your way as a child

[JaZzBounty]

God no damn woo's please. I hate have Gorge or the San Francisco cd's in and get "WOO" in my ears. Its annoying. But theres alrdy a thread on this somewhere I know

[tripinbartender]

hmmm...very interesting

[NCAA1981]

FYI, I heard this at the first listening party, and the clip is the breakdown part at the very end. The whole song doesn't sound exactly like this, there are actual audible lyrics. Awesome song, and the end of this clip does not equal the end of the song... Boyd goes off for awhile on a dirty 'lil southern jam. Probably will be a HOT live song.

[utdmbfan]

This is gonna be fun live

that's what i was thinking...should be very interesting to see it live

[dmbosw41]

Thanks! This song is great...its groovin, funky and will be a fan favorite live:bounce :thumbsup :thumbsup FYI, I heard this at the first listening party, and the clip is the breakdown part at the very end. The whole song doesn't sound exactly like this, there are actual audible lyrics. Awesome song, and the end of this clip does not equal the end of the song... Boyd goes off for awhile on a dirty 'lil southern jam. Probably will be a HOT live song.

[Nitro1515]

FYI, I heard this at the first listening party, and the clip is the breakdown part at the very end. The whole song doesn't sound exactly like this, there are actual audible lyrics. Awesome song, and the end of this clip does not equal the end of the song... Boyd goes off for awhile on a dirty 'lil southern jam. Probably will be a HOT live song.
Good to know. Thanks :thumbsup

[Jordan#41]

simply incredible... love this song

[valdud]

Now where can we WOO in this song? Louisiana Bayou, WOOO!!! Anyone?We could sing along the YOO part of Bi-YOO (bayou).:p

[Dagwin]

The drum machine analogy makes me twitch a little bit. I think it is good that Carter is pulling back a bit for this album- especially if it will be supplemented with some nice percussion work. But it also prevents him from bastardizing himself (which IMO he did slightly too much with his four stroke fills and Dennis Chamber crossover cymbal work in the '04 tour). Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Carter, and he has more technical facility than I could ever hope for, but consider that the genius of Carter at work here is that he's playing less.....because some sage advice in the studio is- "sometimes less is more." And I think it's interesting to see this out of him.

Not just the '04 tour, by the way. That's just Carter. He's always been like that. He has a tool-box filled with several different signature techniques. Whether he borrowed some, or not, doesn't matter to me. I know he borrowed the 4-stroke from Chambers. Carter loves that fill. And the crossover. I really miss his broken hi-hat work on this album. At least keep that in! That doesn't mean you're "bastardizing" anything. The broken hi-hat is pretty subtle, but very cool. And where are his double-paradiddles 'n such?

[dmbosw41]

now go back and listen to all the clips...the album cant get here any quicker! This band has finally done what they couldnt do with Everyday

[Route2]

i cant get it to play on my windows media player, anyone have the clip in a diff form

For those of you having trouble w/ windows media player, go to file and where it says "work offline" make sure its not checked. Then if that still doesnt work right click on the link and do "save as" then after like a second of downloading try and open it and it should work. :)

as for the clip...way different, a little too hip-hop sounding for me but im not gonna say i dont like it cuz its just a small clip

[road_designer]

They will have to play this at the Jazz Fest.

[2stepsoright]

Also for those having trouble in media player:

right click on the link "save link as" or "save link location"
and goto file--->open url in media player.

[Cortez 4]

Now where can we WOO in this song? Louisiana Bayou, WOOO!!! Anyone?


oh god no......pleease no

[phildo41]

I think this song would be much better if it wasn't so overproduced. But I can see this being really good live. I hope I get to see it Saturday.

[Bluedaze21]

Not just the '04 tour, by the way. That's just Carter. He's always been like that. He has a tool-box filled with several different signature techniques. Whether he borrowed some, or not, doesn't matter to me. I know he borrowed the 4-stroke from Chambers. Carter loves that fill. And the crossover. I really miss his broken hi-hat work on this album. At least keep that in! That doesn't mean you're "bastardizing" anything. The broken hi-hat is pretty subtle, but very cool. And where are his double-paradiddles 'n such?

No, no- I realize exactly what you're saying and I agree with you. But what I meant to say was I think he did that stuff a little moreso in '04. Again, I love it, and what it does to the energy levels at a show is incredible, but when it used to be a little more exclusive to numbers like "Tripping Billies" etc. it seemed a little more....sacred (for lack of a better word).

And like I said, he has incredible technical facility (tool-box of techniques), and it's inherent in more ways than one on different songs (broken hat-work, syncopation, etc.). All I'm saying is Batson seemed to hold a great deal of reverence and the utmost respect for Carter in the studio, so consider that perhaps these straight-forward drum tracks are of Carter's own doing, and perhaps it was his way of changing and developing the sound of this album.

[Cordevil95]

Interesting sound for DMB.

I like it alot though.

[dmbosw41]

how they are going to pull off these songs live :ugh is beyond me. They need Tim R. for this tour

[demar727]

fucking awesome... :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

[seek up and #41]

i would like to see this live but the cilp was way to weird

[road_designer]

fucking awesome... :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

you are welcome ;)

[demar727]

oh god no......pleease no

^^^ yeah.. what he said ;)

no more woo's during a song..for the love of god... no more woo's!! :mad

[gr8tkingrat]

Very funky!

This is just awesome.

Gotta be my favourite clip yet.

Who would have expected this sound from DMB!!??

[demar727]

you are welcome ;)

umm.. im confused..:confused

[dmbosw41]

Very funky!

This is just awesome.

Gotta be my favourite clip yet.

Who would have expected this sound from DMB!!??

and thats the thing we have to take it for what its worth...this is a fun new studio effort.

[valdud]

This band has finally done what they couldnt do with Everydaywhich is??

[twostep721]

you should get this show http://www.antsmarching.org/tour/ViewShow.php?ShowID=2716

dave explains in the interview what you dont get

thanks, ill check that out

[ZildjianPilot]

No, no- I realize exactly what you're saying and I agree with you. But what I meant to say was I think he did that stuff a little moreso in '04. Again, I love it, and what it does to the energy levels at a show is incredible, but when it used to be a little more exclusive to numbers like "Tripping Billies" etc. it seemed a little more....sacred (for lack of a better word).

And like I said, he has incredible technical facility (tool-box of techniques), and it's inherent in more ways than one on different songs (broken hat-work, syncopation, etc.). All I'm saying is Batson seemed to hold a great deal of reverence and the utmost respect for Carter in the studio, so consider that perhaps these straight-forward drum tracks are of Carter's own doing, and perhaps it was his way of changing and developing the sound of this album.

:thumbsup Well put sir. I too am a drummer, and when I first heard American Baby I felt a little "let down" by Carter's stick work. But after hearing the songs released since then, I am starting to see that this is definitely all Carter's genius. I can't remember if it was the Nancie's or AM interview with Batson (or maybe a third party one), but he basically said "When you've got a genius like Carter in the studio, get the f*** out of the way." Sometimes it's nice to take your drumming back a step, throw in that tambourine or shaker, and just let it groove. Everyday was a little too sterile for me, and I could tell that it was not Carter's passion behind it. In LB and others we've heard, you can still feel "Carter Beauford on the drums!" without having to rely on his nasty fills and other tools to recognize him.

By the way, I suggest everyone put LB on repeat in their player for at least 20 times before maing a call on it... to me, at least, it sounded a lot better after getting it in my blood for a while.

[Kyle#41_7985]

which is??

creativity, all members collaborating together and getting to write, different styles of music, trying different instruments...just to name a few

[gr8tkingrat]

and thats the thing we have to take it for what its worth...this is a fun new studio effort.

:thumbsup Yeah, for sure, it is a studio effort. But saying that i'm certainly interested to see how it develops live too.

[WolfmanDMB]

finally a clip that i like. at least now when i see the electric being brought out i dont have to wonder what everyday song is going to be played.

[Noles20]

I think it great. Definately a different sound for DMB, but a good one. I really can't wait for the full version of this and to hear it live.

Do you guys think they will play songs from Stand Up at NOLA, or do you expect sets similar to Australia? I think they will play AB and maybe one other new one.

[egallo]

Does anyone else hear "trying play with the ky". I would normally think I was hearing things but Dave did mention this song is dirty... See last question from this interview http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=126113&highlight=louisiana+bayou+article
Or maybe I just have a dirty mind :hump

[Kyle#41_7985]

I have 4 friends going to NOLA and I'm mad jealous since it is only a 5 hour drive from here at Arkansas. I'm thinking it'll probably be pretty similar to the Austrailia with maybe 1 or 2 new songs at the most.

[Kyle#41_7985]

Does anyone else hear "trying play with the ky". I would normally think I was hearing things but Dave did mention this song is dirty... See last question from this interview http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=126113&highlight=louisiana+bayou+article
Or maybe I just have a dirty mind :hump

I hadn't read that. I wonder what Dave considers to be dirty...I guess we shall see.

[Bluedaze21]

:thumbsup Well put sir. I too am a drummer, and when I first heard American Baby I felt a little "let down" by Carter's stick work. But after hearing the songs released since then, I am starting to see that this is definitely all Carter's genius. I can't remember if it was the Nancie's or AM interview with Batson (or maybe a third party one), but he basically said "When you've got a genius like Carter in the studio, get the f*** out of the way." Sometimes it's nice to take your drumming back a step, throw in that tambourine or shaker, and just let it groove. Everyday was a little too sterile for me, and I could tell that it was not Carter's passion behind it. In LB and others we've heard, you can still feel "Carter Beauford on the drums!" without having to rely on his nasty fills and other tools to recognize him.

By the way, I suggest everyone put LB on repeat in their player for at least 20 times before maing a call on it... to me, at least, it sounded a lot better after getting it in my blood for a while.

Very well put yourself. It seems a little elementary to base competence simply on showmanship as it is. There is a very fine line between live and studio performance on any instrument, let alone the topic of this little discussion: Drums. Studio Musicianship- which has a little more emphasis on consistency.

But like you said- they got a little too studio for ED, where the rest of the band sans Dave and producer Glen Ballard were essentially hired pop musicians. These are our boys at work this time, the passion is there as you put it, and that makes this album much easier to swallow, thus far. Can't wait till the 10th.

[goochylittlepig]

Weird...The mix sounded terrible, unless you weren't supposed to hear the vocals clearly at that point.
um, i think thats the point. also, im assuming this is a clip from near the end of the song where it's built to this, as opposed to the whole song being like this. i dont really care either way, cuz this sounds cool, but i'd be surprised if it was.

[dntbrnthepig21]

so i have a question...I am a warehouse member and I have caught most of the clips, but I missed Stolen Away and the AB intro. Is there any way for me to hear these? Also, I think I have read that people who aren't in the warehouse are hearing these clips by substituting the song names in the url address. What address would this be?

Thanks.

by the way, this song is awesome. (from what i've heard)
I'm glad to see the attitudes becoming positive around here.

[julio_havok]

Loved it!

[road_designer]

so i have a question...I am a warehouse member and I have caught most of the clips, but I missed Stolen Away and the AB intro. Is there any way for me to hear these? Also, I think I have read that people who aren't in the warehouse are hearing these clips by substituting the song names in the url address. What address would this be?

Thanks.

by the way, this song is awesome. (from what i've heard)
I'm glad to see the attitudes becoming positive around here.

post your email address and I'll hook you up.

[dntbrnthepig21]

post your email address and I'll hook you up.

tdahl2@uiuc.edu

thanks.

[Noles20]

I can't get this out of my head now: "Down by the Bayou!"

[Matt1838]

Damn that clip was awesome. And it makes even more sense now that I know it's at the wind-down of a song.

[road_designer]

tdahl2@uiuc.edu

thanks.


hook you up with....GAY PORN!!!!! :lol :lol :lol

[ZildjianPilot]

so i have a question...I am a warehouse member and I have caught most of the clips, but I missed Stolen Away and the AB intro. Is there any way for me to hear these? Also, I think I have read that people who aren't in the warehouse are hearing these clips by substituting the song names in the url address. What address would this be?

Thanks.

by the way, this song is awesome. (from what i've heard)
I'm glad to see the attitudes becoming positive around here.

you can catch stolen away at www.dmbstandup.com now, as well

[ECLEKTIK RHYTHM]

^^^ yeah.. what he said ;)

no more woo's during a song..for the love of god... no more woo's!! :mad

I was talking to Dave the other night and he told me that's the exact reason why Joyride was left off the new album because he wants nothing to do any longer with the damn incessant Whoos.

LOL

[taphntm]

oh man, that is pretty funky

[dmb2much40]

really funky song, could be the next too much. it's crappy that they put up the end of the song. hopefully, the lyrics throughout the song are decipherable (ie. no scatting).

[nieds05]

it is interesting, i'm not sure what to think of it yet, other then i think this could be really fun live,

[emp88]

Hmm I'm not sure how I feel about this song. I was looking forward to hearing the clip Lousiana Bayou from the title cuz I thought it would be more bluegrassy or funky..idk I guess I'll listen to it a few more times. It seems really busy.

[waynekj]

i'm really liking this clip... genius.. nothing short of it for DMB to produce this sound.. just amazing.. BTCS? part deux

everybody let's do a little dance down at the concert.. these new tracks have soooooooooo much potential live.. :bounce :bounce :bounce

[clayj41]

Pretty good clip. Sounds like a song that could be great live.

[smudge1]

really funky song, could be the next too much. it's crappy that they put up the end of the song. hopefully, the lyrics throughout the song are decipherable (ie. no scatting).
I think you meant to say...it's crappy that they didnt put up the whole song. :lol

[Dougie981641]

I may sound werid saying this but I would much rather a song be amazing live and mediocre on the album then the other way around.

[taphntm]

There are so many different things I am loving about this song. This has to be the best so far. Because it has a different style and boyd is playing it hard. And is that carter's voice in the background? This style is definitely reminding me of another band I love. Just like "intro" did. I doubt they would play any dmb songs in a club though...

AHH, I'm exstatic

[goochylittlepig]

I'll throw some out there... feel free to add/edit/improve!



down by the bayou
trying to think, but can't
it's a shame to lose your way
?
see my story again
it's a shame to lose ?
?
it's a shame to lose your way as a child
this definitely sounds like an answer to hello again. obviously we need to wait for the full song, but this album is seeming really well put together, with the intro to dream girl, the full intro song to american baby, ewu-->oomh and their relationship, and hello again-->lb now.

[smudge1]

I may sound werid saying this but I would much rather a song be amazing live and mediocre on the album then the other way around.
I'm with you on that. :thumbsup

[goochylittlepig]

as for the clip...way different, a little too hip-hop sounding for me but im not gonna say i dont like it cuz its just a small clip
do you know what hip hop sounds like?

[taphntm]

I cannot wait to hear hunger for the great light

(congrats to me on my 1000th post) :)

[Matt1838]

I might sound a little crazy saying this, but hearing this clips definitely reminds me of the first time I heard BTCS. It was so different, Dave screaming lots, really hard and dark sound. It it really bringing the same kind of feeling, which is very, very good.

[Nikos]

I believe "potential" is the key word here. I think all of the clips so far have a great base. They will thrive on the tour.

[goochylittlepig]

so i have a question...I am a warehouse member and I have caught most of the clips, but I missed Stolen Away and the AB intro. Is there any way for me to hear these? Also, I think I have read that people who aren't in the warehouse are hearing these clips by substituting the song names in the url address. What address would this be?

Thanks.

by the way, this song is awesome. (from what i've heard)
I'm glad to see the attitudes becoming positive around here.
to you and anyone else that missed clips, IM me (same name) and I'll see what I can do to help if you can't find them

[goochylittlepig]

really funky song, could be the next too much. it's crappy that they put up the end of the song. hopefully, the lyrics throughout the song are decipherable (ie. no scatting).
why is that crappy? and what's wrong with scatting?

[ethaxton]

Wow, this is going to be unbelievable live. The whole band just going crazy at the end, i can already feel the energy this song is going to have live. This is prob the most interesting clip I've heard so far.

[goochylittlepig]

Hmm I'm not sure how I feel about this song. I was looking forward to hearing the clip Lousiana Bayou from the title cuz I thought it would be more bluegrassy or funky..
im sorry im making a dozen replies, but wtf is wrong with some of you people? i dont care if you have your likes and dislikes. but i keep reading these comments like "this sounds like hip hop" and "i thought this would be funky and bluegrass"
are you deaf? this is the rockin ending to what has gotta be a damn good song. it's funky, it's bluegrassy, it's rock. and it's awesome. listen to it a few times

and what do you people hate about a studio sound? if you want just instruments playing, they have about a billion live shows for you to DL. there's just one album version, and they should take advantage of everything they can to get the effect they want. sigh....

[guitplyr86]

very different....


very interesting....


EDIT: But I like :thumbsup

[DDawg2154]

this is going to be awesome live.
this whole cd is workin for me, no let downs at all

[beband]

good groove for the band. I too am interested in how HA again goes into this, but I bet it kicks! The more I read these posts, the more I am disheartened by people shooting things down to quickly. It may be awesome, and it may suck, but you know what...I bet we all still have our copy on the way! ;)

[Dagwin]

:thumbsup Well put sir. I too am a drummer, and when I first heard American Baby I felt a little "let down" by Carter's stick work. But after hearing the songs released since then, I am starting to see that this is definitely all Carter's genius. I can't remember if it was the Nancie's or AM interview with Batson (or maybe a third party one), but he basically said "When you've got a genius like Carter in the studio, get the f*** out of the way." Sometimes it's nice to take your drumming back a step, throw in that tambourine or shaker, and just let it groove. Everyday was a little too sterile for me, and I could tell that it was not Carter's passion behind it. In LB and others we've heard, you can still feel "Carter Beauford on the drums!" without having to rely on his nasty fills and other tools to recognize him.

By the way, I suggest everyone put LB on repeat in their player for at least 20 times before maing a call on it... to me, at least, it sounded a lot better after getting it in my blood for a while.

What do you think Carter will do with these songs "live?" I hope he does more with them than what I'm hearing so far. I understand where you're coming from, but at the same time, I tend to disagree. I understand the whole "less is better" thing. I never bought into that, though. Many bands were like that. They had good drummers, but it didn't really show. That's why DMB became my fav. band. Finally a great drummer that wasn't afraid to be "busy" on the kit!

[JaZzBounty]

I cannot wait to hear hunger for the great light

(congrats to me on my 1000th post) :)

Whore.

[tarheel997]

I can't wait for the vets to come in here and tear this song to shreds.

[HenriOU]

This might be my favorite clip. Funky and upbeat. I like!

[tarheel997]

I can't wait for the vets to come in here and tear this song to shreds.

I like it, though. I think it's gonna kick ass live.

[jfreed009]

Can somone e-mail me LB

Grasso22@cortland.edu

[Orpheus]

I might sound a little crazy saying this, but hearing this clips definitely reminds me of the first time I heard BTCS. It was so different, Dave screaming lots, really hard and dark sound. It it really bringing the same kind of feeling, which is very, very good.

I remember everything about my first listen to BTCS... where I was sitting, the way the light was in the room, the feeling of each track as it hit me.

I didn't like it. Rapunzel and the Last Stop were cool, but from Stay on... yeah, I hated it.

That album ended up being a serious lesson for me in terms of learning to appreciate change, and not rejecting things just because they don't sound exactly like something I else that I love. The styles change...

But DMB always kicks ass.

[RetardedMonkey]

I'm hearing a little Cypris Hill's Rock Superstar action going on in this clip, but I'm liking it. I think this can rock live. :thumbsup

[BustedJeff]

Down by the bayou...:)

I like it. I think they could have picked a better portion of the song to use as a clip, but that's all. This one could be real fun live.

[CrashInto41]

Awesome song, very different sound, i cant wait to see what they do with this live

[DMBartender9]

Horrible, fucking horrible.

[GruvnDMBRiddims]

I didn't like it. Rapunzel and the Last Stop were cool, but from Stay on... yeah, I hated it.

That album ended up being a serious lesson for me in terms of learning to appreciate change, and not rejecting things just because they don't sound exactly like something I else that I love. The styles change...

But DMB always kicks ass.
+1 for you! :thumbsup
I felt the same way about that album... The couple of tracks hooked me, didn't really listen to or like the last half of the album... I couldn't have stated it any better in that 2nd paragraph. As time passed, the album as a whole grew more on me and now there isn't one thing I dislike about BTCS. The transition jams are some of my favorite part(s) of that album

[CrashInto41]

Horrible, fucking horrible.

must you complain in every thread so negatively

[Bluedaze21]

What do you think Carter will do with these songs "live?" I hope he does more with them than what I'm hearing so far. I understand where you're coming from, but at the same time, I tend to disagree. I understand the whole "less is better" thing. I never bought into that, though. Many bands were like that. They had good drummers, but it didn't really show. That's why DMB became my fav. band. Finally a great drummer that wasn't afraid to be "busy" on the kit!

Even Carter has accused himself of being too busy. There's no mistaking the talent in his individual part, however in some instances it can interfere with the overall song. Which I think is the idea behind the entire objection.

Also, what is important to separate in my statement (which may or may not be Zildjian's as well), is the aforementioned "less is more" technique is a separate entity than live performance, "other drummers" (at least the ones that come to mind when I read that) kept it simple altogether. Carter is the exception here I think. This time- there's more to the album sound than any one instrument, and it is important to allow the combined effort to shine. Though I'm sure you'll see plenty of things he'll do differently live with these songs, should they exceed their standard studio counterpart (think of how much room these straightforward beats leave for intense double-pedal action :) )

[BustedJeff]

I wish Carter was busy again.

[dmb6743]

oh my...oh my....sweeeet! i am really digging this, but damn, i gotta lay off the clips, i told myself, no more clips until the cd comes out

[Bluedaze21]

An edit to my original post which exceed the 5 minute limit:

EDIT: I'd also like to add as a side note; in the only complete song we have of the album and what has been performed live, Carter does amazing things with it (which comes only in the last 40 seconds of the song on the album). Perhaps we're just hearing the wrong 40 seconds in the clips.

[jr_cigar]

WIERD SONG, reminds me of some cheesy uplifting song to the end of a power rangers movie or something. That being said, I like it. Very upbeat. I think it's got potential here.

[goochylittlepig]

I can't wait for the vets to come in here and tear this song to shreds.
yeah, well fuck them. they can go back to the 90s or find a new band to listen to.

[road_designer]

yeah, well fuck them. they can go back to the 90s or find a new band to listen to.

don't you mean ufck them?

[waynekj]

I think they got fucked up during these recordings.. and that's good :D

[Stewie]

i like the lyrics ( ;) )

[Sniper15]

Boyd is going to tear this shit up live.
Louisiana Bayou-
Tripping Billies
would be sick

[Rippy]

I guess im a "vet" and I love the song.

[Rippy]

Boyd is going to tear this shit up live.
Louisiana Bayou-
Tripping Billies
would be sick



:thumbsup :thumbsup

[Evans]

oh boy, this one is going to have to grow on me...sounds awful at first listen, though i'm happy to hear boyd at the end. Still likin' the album as a whole.

[Rippy]

This is actually one of the first clips that didnt need to grow on me. I was groovin the first time I played it. Its a very different sound for the band yet its still them.

[LilMango777]

wow.....me like :D

[road_designer]

I'm only disappointed because I was expecting some more of that bluegrass feel like on Hello Again.

[cptnhansel]

this CD is going to kick so much ass its unbeleiveable

[somedevil22]

not anything like I expected from this song by the title but I think it sounds pretty cool.

[Chuckg8484]

feelin good feeling good!!!!!

[yanks7533]

for me this is so oldschool yet newschool...its has a twangy feel like so much to say and too much the only scary part is how in the begginning it sounds like a justin timberlake song (a little too much pop for a few seconds) but haha i love it for some reasons i hear oldschool dmb

[bense27]

link?

[road_designer]

link?

i have one.

[Hill1286]

This is actually one of the first clips that didnt need to grow on me. I was groovin the first time I played it. Its a very different sound for the band yet its still them.

i totally agree, the second the music just started playing i had a smile on my face and couldn't wait to be at a concert where this is played just dancing like crazy. this one is going to be SIIIICK live.

[BDJCL3]

I'm only disappointed because I was expecting some more of that bluegrass feel like on Hello Again.

I think I was too, but I was basing my opinion totally on the song title I guess. This is one of those songs I can't judge how it will sound from a :40 second sound clip, it's just impossible.

[dmb6743]

i too was thinking this was going to be more of a "bluesy" song, but i was wrong, and i am liking it very much, different, but still good. cant wait till the 10th.

[AlaskaFox]

Here's my attempt at the lyrics:

Down by the bayou
Trying to play with the game
It's a shame to lose your way
For a while
See my story again
It's a shame to lose
Down by the bayou
It's a shame to lose your way as a child
See my story again
It's a shame to lose
Down by the bayou
Like a ?
Hold tight
Hold tight
?
?
Louisiana Bayou

[jaird]

Even Carter has accused himself of being too busy. There's no mistaking the talent in his individual part, however in some instances it can interfere with the overall song. Which I think is the idea behind the entire objection.

Also, what is important to separate in my statement (which may or may not be Zildjian's as well), is the aforementioned "less is more" technique is a separate entity than live performance, "other drummers" (at least the ones that come to mind when I read that) kept it simple altogether. Carter is the exception here I think. This time- there's more to the album sound than any one instrument, and it is important to allow the combined effort to shine. Though I'm sure you'll see plenty of things he'll do differently live with these songs, should they exceed their standard studio counterpart (think of how much room these straightforward beats leave for intense double-pedal action :) )

its not even a question of keeping it simple to me. i subscribe to that theory myself as a songwriter/musician. but what im hearing is carter replaced by a drum machine. listen to the intro clip. even if carter isnt that busy his kit should still sound like that. not mechanical click sounding hihats and a synth hand clap for snare. i can dig a natural sounding simple carter but not this batson created drum programming.

[danster]

this CD is going to kick so much ass its unbeleiveable

sounds like a good plan to me

[yanks7533]

this is definately going to be good and very fun live, i hope they play it live i think itll be worth it, and jammed out (longest song on the album haha)...

[Bluedaze21]

its not even a question of keeping it simple to me. i subscribe to that theory myself as a songwriter/musician. but what im hearing is carter replaced by a drum machine. listen to the intro clip. even if carter isnt that busy his kit should still sound like that. not mechanical click sounding hihats and a synth hand clap for snare. i can dig a natural sounding simple carter but not this batson created drum programming.

Ah, well I can't vouge for that because I'm trying to stay away from the clips and whatnot, to give myself as genuine a first listen as I can come May 10th. I speak of American Baby mainly, and Everybody Wake Up. Though I fully understand your concern I guess I would just give the same cliche advice when it comes to Stand Up.....just wait and see :) perhaps there is a method to the madness, just keep up hope.

[chalktwo]

its not even a question of keeping it simple to me. i subscribe to that theory myself as a songwriter/musician. but what im hearing is carter replaced by a drum machine. listen to the intro clip. even if carter isnt that busy his kit should still sound like that. not mechanical click sounding hihats and a synth hand clap for snare. i can dig a natural sounding simple carter but not this batson created drum programming.


TOTALLY AGREE http://antsmarching.org/forum/images/smilies/upyours.gif

[dmbkristin]

Here's my attempt at the lyrics:
Trying to play with the game

For a while

See my story again

I hear "tryin to play with the canes" (like sugarcanes), "runnin wild" and "same old story again."

Good job overall- it wasn't easy! :lol

That musical part that starts at about :21 reminds me of a song that's in the movie Moulin Rouge. (Which is a good thing- I like that song, and I like this one too. :thumbsup )

[marco j]

its not even a question of keeping it simple to me. i subscribe to that theory myself as a songwriter/musician. but what im hearing is carter replaced by a drum machine. listen to the intro clip. even if carter isnt that busy his kit should still sound like that. not mechanical click sounding hihats and a synth hand clap for snare. i can dig a natural sounding simple carter but not this batson created drum programming.


I used to feel that exact way about drums but I also think that when you go into the studio , it's time to 'experiment' ala (The Beatles , Radio Head, Talking Heads which all sound amazing live ). I'll also agree I don't think I will ever love another album like I love Btcs style wise and production wise, however I think this step with experimentation and faith in themselves is one of the most impressive things this band has ever done. They have never let me down live , which I might add we ALL take for granted! No worry's about the shows. So chill take a step back and just appreciate it for what it is , MUSIC. Like someone said earlier , unlike Everyday this album appears to be a collaborative attempt and that makes it a hell of a lot more swallowable. More than that it should be applauded either way. This is an album nothing more. I look forward to any attempt by these fine musicians at puting out an album till I die. Thanks DMB you rock this thirty something to his bones!

[AlaskaFox]

I hear "tryin to play with the canes" (like sugarcanes), "runnin wild" and "same old story again."

Good job overall- it wasn't easy! :lol

That musical part that starts at about :21 reminds me of a song that's in the movie Moulin Rouge. (Which is a good thing- I like that song, and I like this one too. :thumbsup )

Yeah, it could be either "Running Wild" or "For a while"; or "See my story again" / "same old story again". With all the overdubs it's hard to make out.

[dmb6743]

daaaaaaamn this song is so damn tight.

[Noles20]

this CD is going to kick so much ass its unbeleiveable


:thumbsup YES!! :bounce :multi :bounce

[AlaskaFox]

The best thing about the clips so far is the variety between the songs. I know DMB said they were going in a new direction, but they didn't say they were going in many different directions at once. So even the most negative of fans (should they still be called fans if they're that negative?) will be able to find something they like, and be able to take something from this album.

[darbini]

hot damn this song is not DMB, but it sure is sick, darbini likey

[BeQuietAndDrive]

The best thing about the clips so far is the variety between the songs. I know DMB said they were going in a new direction, but they didn't say they were going in many different directions at once. So even the most negative of fans (should they still be called fans if they're that negative?) will be able to find something they like, and be able to take something from this album.

And here is exactly the reason this album is more like BTCS than either Everyday or Busted Stuff.

Everyday and Busted Stuff each had pretty static songs in terms of variety, while BTCS and Stand Up (from what we have heard) have a really appealing variety of material.

[chenn123]

This clip was very cool!!!!!:multi:multi:multi:multi
I can tell I'm gonna dig this song alot, its just got that creepy weird sound with a hard bass line and dave scats a little and the way he says the title awesome! louisiana baYOU!

If this is the only good tune that comes from the cd I will be pleased.
Can't wait to hear this live.

My prediction for an ultimate encore this summer:
Louisiana Bayou>Hello Again>Halloween
:cool

[OCMarsh]

:ugh ummmm wtf?



I have listened to this ten times and still have no idea what is going on. But I must admit I like it more with each listen.

[marco j]

actually you have it wrong. Halloween>Louisiana Bayou>Hello Again!

[dmb6743]

:ugh ummmm wtf?



I have listened to this ten times and still have no idea what is going on. But I must admit I like it more with each listen.

:lol i dont think anybody has any idea on whats going on, its just tight as hell.

[tarheel997]

yeah, well fuck them. they can go back to the 90s or find a new band to listen to.

:thumbsup

[yanks7533]

after the song changes in like the chorus or somethin i think it sounds alot like phish...haha yup thres trey's influence....i think this is gonna be great and i think the review said that theres a jam at the end with violin and crap so could be a monster live

[Noles20]

I think when all is said and done, most people are going to love this cd. Forget comparing it to other releases, fans will love it for what it is.

[marco j]

you found a chorus :ugh !??!?

[OCMarsh]

I think when all is said and done, most people are going to love this cd. Forget comparing it to other releases, fans will love it for what it is.

:thumbsup

I have tried and tried to make this point. Put ED and the Lillywhite stuff out of your mind for a minute and listen to what's happening here in some of these clips. Damn, a lot of this stuff is pure sex.

[Noles20]

you found a chorus :ugh !??!?

yea, where was that?

[Dougie981641]

:thumbsup

I have tried and tried to make this point. Put ED and the Lillywhite stuff out of your mind for a minute and listen to what's happening here in some of these clips. Damn, a lot of this stuff is pure sex.

True that. I find I enjoy an album more when the first time I listen to it I try not to compare it to the bands other material

[seekupsash]

It sounds like five songs are being played at once!

AHHH! Music overload!!!

[Orpheus]

:thumbsup

I have tried and tried to make this point. Put ED and the Lillywhite stuff out of your mind for a minute and listen to what's happening here in some of these clips. Damn, a lot of this stuff is pure sex.

:evil :thumbsup

"You can listen to this record when you're screwing... you can listen to this record when you're not screwing... you can listen to it when you're drinking coffee... or you can listen to it when you're screwing and drinking coffee."

- approximate quote from Dave

[marco j]

I've got an impression of jamiroquai when listening to this. Which is cool , because I love jamiroquai. That's also another band that when they go into the studio NOT every track sounds like live drums.

[DMBzilla]

I'm shocked that so many people posting before me liked this clip. I dunno...I mean, maybe the song could be cool, but thus far the only clip that I've really dug was Smooth Rider, and it's only what, 2:18 on the actual album?

LB to me, sounds like a cheezy pop song with one of those never-ending hooks. The effects are ridiculous, Carter might as well not even be there, and I can't even hear LeRoi. Live, yeah, maybe it'll be cool, but man does this clip suck (not the song necessarily, but this clip).

Someone posted something about how people would feel if this album came out before Everyday, and from what we've heard thus far, I would've said "Man, they're on the way down," and Everyday would've solidified that opinion. Why can't they just do what they do best instead of all this experimental shit?

I gotta admit, I really REALLY hope I'm wrong and this album will rock, but what we've heard so far, in my opinion, has been fairly weak lyrics, disjointed melodies, and it just isn't DMB. And don't give me that whole change deal -- bands change, sure, but the best ones still keep what made them great as a top priority. DMB hasn't been doing that lately, and it worries me as far as their musical future.

[marco j]

^malarki

[DMBzilla]

Um...you do know that alot of tracks on Jamiroqui's albums DON'T use live drums, right?

And care to elaborate, instead of just writing a blanket phrase about my opinion of the new clip, and the others so far?

[MistreatedLewis]

Why can't they just do what they do best instead of all this experimental shit?



Boring.

[jr_cigar]

Is it just me cause whenever i see the title of this song i start singing "down on the corner" by CCR but I change "down on the corner" to "down by the bayou"

[DMBzilla]

Boring.

Hmm...so Carter going nuts, Dave writing different, interesting, and impressive song patterns, and the rest of the guys performing perfectly, all the way though Before These Crowded Streets, was boring? Because that's what I'm talking about -- each guy doing his thing to the best of his ability, putting together new music that is as grassroots and "DMB" as it gets, and rocking out with that shit every night. To this day, what songs do people really wanna hear live? Let's see, The Stone, Dancing Nancies, Warehouse, JTR, Bartender, Two Step, Say Goodbye...the list goes on, and it's chock full of the BEST DMB tunes. I'd like to see how many people think any of that stuff is boring...

[MistreatedLewis]

To this day, what songs do people really wanna hear live? Let's see, The Stone, Dancing Nancies, Warehouse, JTR, Bartender, Two Step, Say Goodbye...the list goes on, and it's chock full of the BEST DMB tunes. I'd like to see how many people think any of that stuff is boring...

I don't think any of the songs you mentioned is boring except for JTR. I think not wanting DMB to experiment is boring.

[aspenbooboo41]

Ok...I am having a moment... I can't seem to find where I am supposed to be listening to this clip? The only clip available on the studio site for me is Stolen Away.

[marco j]

Um...you do know that alot of tracks on Jamiroqui's albums DON'T use live drums, right?

you read my post about jamiroquai didn't you??!? then you already know my answer and how I feel about it.

And care to elaborate, instead of just writing a blanket phrase about my opinion of the new clip, and the others so far?




I thought your post was malarki. want a dictionary.

were's mr. webster when you need him?!

[marco j]

Um...you do know that alot of tracks on Jamiroqui's albums DON'T use live drums, right?

you read my post about jamiroquai didn't you??!? then you already know my answer and how I feel about it.

And care to elaborate, instead of just writing a blanket phrase about my opinion of the new clip, and the others so far?




I thought your post was malarki. want a dictionary.

where's mr. webster when you need him?!

[DMBzilla]

So you'd rather they experiment and put out music that is arguably bad than stick to their roots and put out great material on a regular basis? That makes no sense to me.

[shoelessjoe910]

Ok...I am having a moment... I can't seem to find where I am supposed to be listening to this clip? The only clip available on the studio site for me is Stolen Away.
It's on the Warehouse!

[marco j]

depends on what you call arguably bad?!?! Funny when in your sig it's a quote from dave talking about playing music because he love's it! oh the irony.

[SideshowRob]

I don't think any of the songs you mentioned is boring except for JTR. I think not wanting DMB to experiment is boring.

Experimentation opens the doors for the possiblities of more kickass live shows... How kickass were D+F shows... these new songs are gonna create the potential for DMB to blow the pavillion roofs off of their shows... i think that some of these songs may be the best live songs we hear... See: Stand Up, Hunger For The Great Light, Hello Again, Louisiana Bayou and Old Dirt Hill...

you may not like the songs... but do they have potential? we already know about Hello Again and how wicked it is live... and how it doesnt sound as good (IMO)... why couldn't one apply that to the other songs... sometimes unproduced music is the best...

[MistreatedLewis]

So you'd rather they experiment and put out music that is arguably bad than stick to their roots and put out great material on a regular basis? That makes no sense to me.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. To me, it takes a lot more guts and artistic integrity to experiment than to "stick to your roots and put out great material on a regular basis". A great example is Radiohead. It would have been easy for them to follow up The Bends and OK Computer with two albums that sounded exactly like that and sold another million bazillion records and cemented a stadium career for the next ten years. Instead, they chose to fuck what their fanbase and the mainstream wanted and released Kid A and Amnesiac. And that's why I love them...

[OCMarsh]

I think very very few folks that are really into jam bands will like this album. I bet the ones that buy into it will be more of the Mraz/Jack/Guster crowd. Just my gut feeling.

[aspenbooboo41]

It's on the Warehouse!

:thumbsup Thank you! (and thanks for not making an ass of me ;) )

It seems that this clip is causing some confusion for some people and a loss of faith for others, but for me it's doing the exact opposite. I am 5000 times more excited for release date. This is exactly the type of funky sound I was hoping for. I am digging it!

[MistreatedLewis]

:thumbsup Thank you! (and thanks for not making an ass of me ;) )

It seems that this clip is causing some confusion for some people and a loss of faith for others, but for me it's doing the exact opposite. I am 5000 times more excited for release date. This is exactly the type of funky sound I was hoping for. I am digging it!


I agree... The more I listen to these clips, especially Everybody Wake Up, Out of my Hands, Hello Again, Old Dirt Hill, and Stolen Away the more excited I am getting, Even Dream Girl which I hated at first is growing on me as I see how it fits into the context of the album. I think it just made me afraid that it was going to be another album full of annoying love songs like Everyday.

[DMBzilla]

Wow, lots to reply to, so i'll try to get them all.

1. Thanks, I know what "malarkey" means. I just didn't know that an OPINION about something could be wrong. Do I think DMB's newer material is weak compared to its previous stuff? Yes. Am I impressed by the clips? No. It's an opinion buddy. It's not wrong by any means, and I'd be happy to take it back if Stand Up rocks.

2. The quote has nothing to do with liking everything Dave plays. I just like music too. Does that mean I blindly swallow everything that every band I like puts out? Absolutely not.

3. Dave and Friends were kickass because a) Dave wrote brilliant material for Some Devil, b) Trey is more musically talented than any member of DMB (including Carter), c) the chemistry on stage was great, and d) they had alot of awesome cover material to work with. Dave and Friends was just fun for everyone involved it seemed, and it was nice to see Dave performing alot of songs that were much like his oldest writings.

4. Experimentation definitely opens doors, and I HOPE that every song on this album translates into an amazing experience. I'm just saying that experimentation CAN be a good thing, but I just think the last few experiments that DMB has undertaken have not been successful.

[shoelessjoe910]

Wow, lots to reply to, so i'll try to get them all.

1. Thanks, I know what "malarkey" means. I just didn't know that an OPINION about something could be wrong. Do I think DMB's newer material is weak compared to its previous stuff? Yes. Am I impressed by the clips? No. It's an opinion buddy. It's not wrong by any means, and I'd be happy to take it back if Stand Up rocks.

2. The quote has nothing to do with liking everything Dave plays. I just like music too. Does that mean I blindly swallow everything that every band I like puts out? Absolutely not.

3. Dave and Friends were kickass because a) Dave wrote brilliant material for Some Devil, b) Trey is more musically talented than any member of DMB (including Carter), c) the chemistry on stage was great, and d) they had alot of awesome cover material to work with. Dave and Friends was just fun for everyone involved it seemed, and it was nice to see Dave performing alot of songs that were much like his oldest writings.

4. Experimentation definitely opens doors, and I HOPE that every song on this album translates into an amazing experience. I'm just saying that experimentation CAN be a good thing, but I just think the last few experiments that DMB has undertaken have not been successful.
Depends on what you define "successful" as. Everyday was DEFINATELY a succuss when it comes to album sales!

[DMBzilla]

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. To me, it takes a lot more guts and artistic integrity to experiment than to "stick to your roots and put out great material on a regular basis". A great example is Radiohead. It would have been easy for them to follow up The Bends and OK Computer with two albums that sounded exactly like that and sold another million bazillion records and cemented a stadium career for the next ten years. Instead, they chose to fuck what their fanbase and the mainstream wanted and released Kid A and Amnesiac. And that's why I love them...

And you don't think the fanbase lapped those albums up as "the best thing musically out there because it's so different"? Come on, Radiohead is just as mainstream as any other band out there right now. They can try all they want to put out weird and different things, but the fact is the mainstream loves Radiohead. I myself am a Radiohead fan, and I respect what they do.

But DMB in no way shape or form is Radiohead, or anything close. DMB is a grassroots jammy band that got to where they're at because they put out fantastic tunes. Sure, alot of that brought in the teeny bopper crowd, but then you go to a show and they blow your mind every night by turing a catchy tune like Two Step into a 20 minute epic. Experimentation isn't always a good thing, and I think it's pretty weak to be like, I'd rather the music be bad but different than awesome but similar.

Look at what Coldplay has done -- They put out Parachutes, a solid album overall, and then with AROBTTH, they go and say, ok, what was awesome on the first record? Right, let's do that, but let's make it better! And they did that to a T -- one of the first sophomore efforts that was notably better than the first. And now, with Speed of Sound, they've done the same thing -- take the revamped formula that came through on the last album, and they've added to it, making it more complex and interesting. DMB did that from UTTAD > Crash > BTCS, and then since Everyday came out, they've kinda hit a bump in the road. Hell, I still look back and say man, I wish they'd finished the Lillywhites, produced it the right way, and Everyday on never happened. But instead, ED did come out, and since then they just haven't been the same, for me, in a bad way.

[DMBzilla]

Depends on what you define "successful" as. Everyday was DEFINATELY a succuss when it comes to album sales!

Let's be honest -- DMB could release ANYTHING and it would translate to succesful album sales. I clearly meant in a musical/fan sense.

[shoelessjoe910]

Let's be honest -- DMB could release ANYTHING and it would translate to succesful album sales. I clearly meant in a musical/fan sense.
Musically, I think they were very successful with Everyday and Busted Stuff. Just because it pissed of the community that the songs from the summer 2000 were set aside for Everyday does not mean it did not translate well musically. People can bitch and have their own opinions on Everyday (and Busted Stuff), but the two main reasons I have seen being the turn off to the album is the one I have already mentioned and Dave using an electric guitar. We all love the sound of the acoustic and Dave can play the shit out of it. I listened to Everyday last night and took notice of Carter's role, Roi's role, and Boyd's role. People usually say there is not much there from them. That is contrary to what I heard. Carter's playing is great and very skilled and very technical. No, it's not Tripping Billies or Ants, but that's great...it's different!!! Listening to the new clips, I definately have seen a great blend in the use of different styles and flowing them together from song to song. Though it's too early to tell if it was "successful," by the clips I definately see the potential of this being a success musically.

[bartender1162]

Experimentation opens the doors for the possiblities of more kickass live shows... How kickass were D+F shows... these new songs are gonna create the potential for DMB to blow the pavillion roofs off of their shows... i think that some of these songs may be the best live songs we hear... See: Stand Up, Hunger For The Great Light, Hello Again, Louisiana Bayou and Old Dirt Hill...

you may not like the songs... but do they have potential? we already know about Hello Again and how wicked it is live... and how it doesnt sound as good (IMO)... why couldn't one apply that to the other songs... sometimes unproduced music is the best...

:thumbsup Bingo.
Personally, I'm really looking forward to it. But, yes, there is a possibility this album could suck. However, the boys are, as they put it, experimenting with a new sound. There is the possibility that a couple of years down the road, as a result of experimenting, we may get an album that is better than BTCS.
Another thing, this is, if you think about it, the first album the guys have made together since Lillywhite. And they've been on quite a journey. As one person put it, Everyday was for Dave, and BS was for the fans. the guys haven't gotten into the studio and all come up with new material together for almost 5 five years.
Besides, we've been told that they came up with upwards of 20-25 numbers, and Boyd has told us that we will definitely be hearing some of those songs that were left off this summer on tour. Maybe those songs have that "feel" that we as fans are used to from this band, but they didnt make the cut b/c the guys were looking to put out something new, and those songs didn't fit in that category.

[shoelessjoe910]

:thumbsup Bingo.
Besides, we've been told that they came up with upwards of 20-25 numbers, and Boyd has told us that we will definitely be hearing some of those songs that were left off this summer on tour. Maybe those songs have that "feel" that we as fans are used to from this band, but they didnt make the cut b/c the guys were looking to put out something new, and those songs didn't fit in that category.
Where did you read or hear this??? I'd like to know....I haven't heard that yet! That's exciting that they ARE gonna do some of the non-album stuff!

[DMBzilla]

I guess for me I just look at bands that have experimented and seen what they do afterwards, and one of two things happens.

You get a band like U2, who definitely went waaaaay off the deep end with Pop, and then they come back and put out ATYCLB and HTDANB, both of which are great, great albums. They knew that they made a mistake, they accepted it, and they moved on.

On the other hand, you can get an artist like John Mayer, who put out fantastic music (Inside Wants Out), experimented with a mediocre album resulting (Room For Squares), and then continued down that path with Heavier Things, which fucking blows. I fear that DMB might get caught in that trap, trying too many new things without just saying, Hey, these older tunes rock, let's improve on this instead of going in an entirely new direction.

Busted Stuff was just kinda thrown in the middle there (I honestly wish it never came out -- LWS are better in every way, even unfinished), but with Everyday being the last album of "new" material they/Dave have written, and with what I've heard on here, it's just very disappointing thus far, and to go back to this thread's topic, I think that the clip of LB is very weird, and pretty shitty in my opinion.

[DomM41]

creativity, all members collaborating together and getting to write, different styles of music, trying different instruments...just to name a few

i like it, and lets face it y'all... go with the flow, because DMB isnt giong to go back into a studio a month from now and redo an album because some, perhaps many dont like it. Their trying to reach new fans and maintain their old ones as well. Pick out the good parts of it if you have to listen to that. Im excited for this summer tour because these shows will be so different then any before.
Flippn sweet

[zigbaldi]

b) Trey is more musically talented than any member of DMB (including Carter)

wrong

[Behrend]

That's funny - I thought Raven was ALWAYS called Louisiana Bayou. . .

Ahem.

S

[DMBzilla]

wrong

Um...care to back that up?

[BustedJeff]

I can wait to blare this song through my beefy stereo. This one is going to be great live.

[zigbaldi]

Um...care to back that up?

sure, i didn't mean to get you pissed or anything(you seem to be on the war-path lately)I just think that Carter happens to be more musically talented than Trey. Just my opinion. i dont feel like arguing all night about it, its just the way i feel. you are entitled to your opinion as well

[bilpushn]

it is definately different, but it sounds so cool.

[Cordevil95]

To this day, what songs do people really wanna hear live? Let's see, The Stone, Dancing Nancies, Warehouse, JTR, Bartender, Two Step, Say Goodbye...the list goes on, and it's chock full of the BEST DMB tunes. I'd like to see how many people think any of that stuff is boring...

I gaurantee a few songs or more from this album will join that list. We can revisit this thought in September.

[Bluedaze21]

sure, i didn't mean to get you pissed or anything(you seem to be on the war-path lately)I just think that Carter happens to be more musically talented than Trey. Just my opinion. i dont feel like arguing all night about it, its just the way i feel. you are entitled to your opinion as well

I just think it is an awkward statement (Trey is better than all even Carter). Not that I disagree, or agree for that matter, because it's tough to gauge musicians who don't play the same instrument.

Even though Trey used to play drums (primarily), I doubt he is in the same tier as Carter, as well as Carter couldn't hold a candle to Trey on guitar (IMO, no guitarists can).

On a song to song contributory basis, I would say Trey is better........ah nevermind, it's early and I don't want to argue which musician is better when the two are incomparable in mere means of talent on their own respective instruments.

[ARFiredancer]

very cool, one of my favorites so far...interesting sound

[zigbaldi]

I just think it is an awkward statement (Trey is better than all even Carter). Not that I disagree, or agree for that matter, because it's tough to gauge musicians who don't play the same instrument.

Even though Trey used to play drums (primarily), I doubt he is in the same tier as Carter, as well as Carter couldn't hold a candle to Trey (IMO, no guitarists can).

On a song to song contributory basis, I would say Trey is better........ah nevermind, it's early and I don't want to argue which musician is better when the two are incomparable in mere means of talent.

thats what im saying. its too hard to say who is better when they dont even play the same instrument. All i know is that to me Carter is probably one of the best drummers going. Is trey one of the best guitarists? i dont know where he would rank

[penn darvis]

Is anyone getting the feeling this album is going to be overproduced?

[xxcrushme40xx]

it isnt as good as stolen away<3

[Bluedaze21]

thats what im saying. its too hard to say who is better when they dont even play the same instrument. All i know is that to me Carter is probably one of the best drummers going. Is trey one of the best guitarists? i dont know where he would rank

I would definitely rank Trey as one of the best guitarists alive today. If not for his distinctive guitar sound you wouldn't be able to tell it was him.....he's a well of technique and variety, and always seems to know how to contribute to a song. However, Trey is also a master of music. You can't write pieces like YEM as well as compose/conduct scores for entire symphonies and not afford to be.

Carter would also be one of my favorite drummers, and I agree with you on that statement. Though if I had to make a criticizing remark of Carter, it's that I couldn't see him playing with everybody- Like I think Trey could. Carter is so groove-oriented (which compensates for a percussion section, as well as just plain kicks ass) that it might not fit in with the motif of any given band. Which I think, but won't speak for him of course, DMBzilla might be coming from with his comment....in regards to versatility.

EDIT: However, Carter as of late seems to be showing us all just how varied he can be with his tracks on the new album.

[tblincoe]

I gaurantee a few songs or more from this album will join that list. We can revisit this thought in September.

well we can already add Hello Again to the list of "must hears" from Stand Up

[Bluedaze21]

Just as an afterthought I guess I lied when I said I wasn't going to discuss the topic, haha. And apologies to all for the borderline Hijacking.

P.S. The comment made of Carter's variation in the edit is not meant to be sarcastic. I meant that in contrast to his technique in live performance.

[krbarrett77]

how they are going to pull off these songs live :ugh is beyond me. They need Tim R. for this tour


i agree, these songs will either gain a whole lot of energy live, or just fall short. Its gonna be difficult to duplicate the Lousiana Bayou studio effort though, this song is all over the place, i love it

[DMBzilla]

Which I think, but won't speak for him of course, DMBzilla might be coming from with his comment....in regards to versatility.

:thumbsup

I basically meant, for the most part, that no one in the jammy scene can hold a candle to Trey when it comes to overall musical ability and versatility. Is Carter the best drummer alive? Arguable, but I say yes. But with Trey, I just don't see how you can get any better, at least with regard to style, versatility, ability on his instrument, and overall musical brilliance. The guy is probably the top overall musician in rock music today, and while sure, Carter adds a shitload to DMB and is hands down the best in the band at his instrument, I'd be hard pressed to believe that when it comes to overall musical talent and intelligence you could argue that he comes close to what Trey does.

And I think that's kinda where everything with the Dave and Friends tour came in, because while I feel like those shows and Some Devil would have been solid without him, I look at it more like Trey was kinda like the ultimate producer / muse for Dave. I could just see Dave in the studio playing him the beginning of a song, and Trey just being like, ok, I know what you're going for and what you're capable of, but go further, let's do this, and I'll play this, and Tim will play this, and so forth, and I feel like Trey deserves alot of credit as far as why Some Devil, and the tour, kicked so much ass.

[DMBzilla]

well we can already add Hello Again to the list of "must hears" from Stand Up

Oh yeah, for sure...I love Hello Again, but I almost don't feel like it's a "Stand Up" song so much as a "Summer '04 Song."

[bartender1162]

Where did you read or hear this??? I'd like to know....I haven't heard that yet! That's exciting that they ARE gonna do some of the non-album stuff!

http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?p=2637347#post2637347

this was matt's review of the album after he attended the original listening party. here's the excerpt from that:

I also got a chance to talk with Boyd, and he seemed extremely excited about getting this album out to the fans. I asked him if the songs that didn't make the cut (of which there are many) will be getting any play during the summer, and he gave me a definitive and excited, "Absolutely. Definitely." Looks like we're in for a refreshing and exciting summer.

tapes will be in high demand this summer for sure, b/c of the mew material that we will likely hear. TAPERS ROCK!!! :monkey

[Orpheus]

Is anyone getting the feeling this album is going to be overproduced?

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I don't know what Jack means exactly, but it feels right somehow.