Stand Up: Nothing Good About It

[headlessnancie]

Am I the only person who isn't liking what they're hearing on the new cd, Stand Up? I think that the producer was a total mistake. He completely changed DMB's total image. There's nothing wrong with change..but only if it's a good change. This wasn't. Every song sounds the same. I swear Carter does the same drum beat over and over again. Where's Carter's REAL talent? I really hate bashing Dave or any of the other guys. But what happened to "Hello Again", "Joy Ride", "Crazy-Easy", or "Sugar Will"?? What happened to what we heard in the summer? That's Dave. Not "American Baby" with the hip hop vibe. Hopefully this isnt Dave's last cd. The band can't end on a bad note..literally.

[esc2476]

There are quite a few threads that already discuss this.....


In before the lockdown!

[BeQuietAndDrive]

Your signature makes this the most ironic post of all time.

[Explicitrydes]

Your signature makes this the most ironic post of all time.

:thumbsup

[Steve Dawg]

yeah

[Steve Dawg]

Aaron Carter's fan site is lookin for more users, try there

[tripinbartender]

...no you're not the only one...look around, not many like it. and search while you're looking ;)

[headlessnancie]

There are quite a few threads that already discuss this.....


In before the lockdown!

well, sorry. i couldnt find them anywhere

[mr.MikeD]

i was confused, this follows the same format as the individual song threads. i'd never heard of "nothing good about it" unit now.

[jay41]

Yes, you are the only one who feels this way.

[DMBartender9]

This band is going to shit faster than it had been in 2001.

[jay41]

This band is going to shit faster than it had been in 2001.

:lol So wrong

[Miccius]

Why, do they have diarhea?

Sorry if that was spelled wrong.

[dmb@uvm]

Your signature makes this the most ironic post of all time.

:lol

[JUburton]

This is the greates thread I have ever encountered.

[brett5]

okay listen, everyone has their own opinion. but dave and the boys are not going to change their ways because some people don't like it. dave puts the music out there and he doesn't care what people say, but he hopes most people dig it.

[BustedJeff]

This band is going to shit faster than it had been in 2001.

Strong words considering the album hasn't been released and we haven't seen what the songs are like live.

[CrashInto41]

Why, do they have diarhea?

Sorry if that was spelled wrong.

yeah dave and carter have it, didnt you hear about it?

[jay41]

I think that the producer was a total mistake. He completely changed DMB's total image. There's nothing wrong with change..but only if it's a good change. This wasn't.

How has their image changed? And who's to say what is good change or bad change? Just because you may not like it doesn't mean it's bad change.

[nick00045]

this thread sucks balls

[esc2476]

......stand by for lockdown..........

-and it is a little unfair to say there is "Nothing Good About It" when you have not heard it yet. Or have you? :freak

[DrewLeon738]

just wait till you hear the whole album, its not even out and your already bitchin about it

[headlessnancie]

well, excuse me for posting my opinion.

don't be up my ass next time..

[dmbdork]

I like some of the songs, and I dislike others. At least based on the clips. Which is premature anyways. But I like the idea that the band is actually doing something different. Sometimes change can be good, sometimes not. We shall see, with this one. Either way, it doesn't sound as disappointing as Everyday did.

[dpresti]

My Thoughts...By Derek


Every once in a while the Dave Matthews Band releases a new studio album. Around this time and the weeks prior to the release date a lot of users post on these message boards. How come people who NEVER POST HERE, come and trash the boards with complete idiotic thoughts? As said earlier, Aaron Carter and Jesse Mcartney have a great fan base looking for users to join there boards. Venture your thought to those sites.

Have a good day all.

[headlessnancie]

Either way, it doesn't sound as disappointing as Everyday did.

Have you heard Everyday? It tears this shit up.

[greenpepper7]

Your signature makes this the most ironic post of all time.

:lol so true.

[esc2476]

Have you heard Everyday? It tears this shit up.

:lol

[Miccius]

yeah dave and carter have it, didnt you hear about it?

:lol Yea, That's why the album name is Stand Up. You see, when the guys were making the album, they all got a case of really bad diarhea and they'd all being sitting on toilets. So, they'd think they were all done, then "Stand Up", then they'd realize they weren't done. From then on out they starting yelling Stand Up at each other to give each other a hard time. Then one day, after they were all better, Carter laid down a really good groove, Mark Baston heard it and started yelling, "Stand Up, Stand Up." They all started laughing and from then on out it was all history.

There is the story of Stand Up.

[dmb@uvm]

Have you heard Everyday? It tears this shit up.

Have you listened to the full album yet....cuz if so please share for our listening pleasure

[esc2476]

:lol Yea, That's why the album name is Stand Up. You see, when the guys were making the album, they all got a case of really bad diarhea and they'd all being sitting on toilets. So, they'd think they were all done, then "Stand Up", then they'd realize they weren't done. From then on out they starting yelling Stand Up at each other to give each other a hard time. Then one day, after they were all better, Carter laid down a really good groove, Mark Baston heard it and started yelling, "Stand Up, Stand Up." They all started laughing and from then on out it was all history.

There is the story of Stand Up.

That is pretty good shit. Pun intended.

[jay41]

well, excuse me for posting my opinion.

don't be up my ass next time..

You're entitled to your opinion but you're saying the entire album sucks and there is nothing good about it yet you've only heard 45 second clips. That just seems kinda stupid to me. On May 10, or whenever you get the album, listen to it in its entirety and then feel free to come back here and tell us if you still think there is nothing good about it.

[CrashInto41]

:lol Yea, That's why the album name is Stand Up. You see, when the guys were making the album, they all got a case of really bad diarhea and they'd all being sitting on toilets. So, they'd think they were all done, then "Stand Up", then they'd realize they weren't done. From then on out they starting yelling Stand Up at each other to give each other a hard time. Then one day, after they were all better, Carter laid down a really good groove, Mark Baston heard it and started yelling, "Stand Up, Stand Up." They all started laughing and from then on out it was all history.

There is the story of Stand Up.

:lol oh dear

[esc2476]

I can't believe this thread is more than one page.


And I can't believe I contributed to that. :BANG

[Miccius]

That is pretty good shit. Pun intended.


You all laugh... But I'm telling the truth, I wouldn't shit you like that. :lol

[headlessnancie]

On May 10, or whenever you get the album, listen to it in its entirety and then feel free to come back here and tell us if you still think there is nothing good about it.

I will be more than happy to acknowledge my opinion on how bad the cd is then, too. If you really want me to.

[killymagee2000]

This mofo should be stickied so that everyone can have a place to complain about the new album, instead of having one of these threads pop up every other hour.

[jay41]

I will be more than happy to acknowledge my opinion on how bad the cd is then, too. If you really want me to.

Well atleast then your opinion would be based on hearing the complete piece of work.

[dmb@uvm]

:lol
Has anyone noticed his rep dropped 4 points since making this thread what less than 10 min ago....just food for thought

EDIT: 5 points :lol

[esc2476]

Wow, a mere 5 posts and 4 lost Rep Points. That has to be a record.

EDIT: 6 Rep Points. :eek

Now 7! :eek :eek

[Miccius]

:lol
Has anyone noticed his rep dropped 4 points sice making this thread what less than 10 min ago....just food for thought

They are just a joke anyway.

[dpresti]

:lol
Has anyone noticed his rep dropped 4 points sice making this thread what less than 10 min ago....just food for thought

EDIT: 5 points :lol


just noticed now, thanks for pointing it out!

::runs and contributes::

[CrashInto41]

and the rep points go down down down....think ya would get the hint there buddy?

Based on 30 seconds of a clip I find it pretty hard to give an opinion so quickly, you may have some first impressions but to flat out say this album is shit is a little to much.

[Rippy]

I shit on this thread. I honestly dont think people think this cd is bad, cause it sounds pretty decent so far. People are afraid of change, period. They hear these clips and they dont hear the Ants or Warehouse sound so they wet the bed. On the flip side, if DMB kept putting cd's out that sounded like "vintage" DMB, people would be bitching that they need a new, fresh sound. Its a lose lose situation for the band. A true fan of any band progresses with the music.

[headlessnancie]

wow, you people suck.

now i remember why i never post on here.

[Miccius]

wow, you people suck.

now i remember why i never post on here.

Eh, let it go, it's not really a big deal.

[bartender1162]

I would be more concerned if the people that have heard it already in its entirety were saying that it sucks. However, most everything I've heard from those people (who are, gasp, also DMB fans) is positive. So, no, I'm getting excited about it.

[jay41]

People are afraid of change, period. They hear these clips and they dont hear the Ants or Warehouse sound so they wet the bed.

:thumbsup :thumbsup Very well said

[bartender1162]

wow, you people suck.

now i remember why i never post on here.

then leave.

wow... this thread has gotten more intense than the time i forgot how to sit down

[jay41]

wow, you people suck.

now i remember why i never post on here.

Do we suck as much as the new album?

[Miccius]

Wow, lots of ballbusters on this thread. Ha :lol: Classic.

[esc2476]

Do we suck as much as the new album? lol!
:lol

[headlessnancie]

you people are the ones tearing ME apart.

..and have you ever heard anyone say, "man, i really don't like the first 45 seconds of that song. but the rest of the song is fantastic!"

i don't think so.

if i don't like the beginning, what makes you think i'm going to like the rest of the song?

[jay41]

..and have you ever heard anyone say, "man, i really don't like the first 45 seconds of that song. but the rest of the song is fantastic!"


I don't like the first few minutes of Sugar Will, but once Dave comes in with vocals and once Roi and Butch come in I absolutly love it.

[Rippy]

dont judge a book by its cover

[zachstl]

you people are the ones tearing ME apart.

..and have you ever heard anyone say, "man, i really don't like the first 45 seconds of that song. but the rest of the song is fantastic!"

i don't think so.

if i don't like the beginning, what makes you think i'm going to like the rest of the song?

That made zero sense to me...
First of all most clips are not of the beginning of the song, and second of all, even if it was the beginning, that doesn't damn the rest of the song necessarily.

[jay41]

..and have you ever heard anyone say, "man, i really don't like the first 45 seconds of that song. but the rest of the song is fantastic!"


Also, not all of these clips are the first 45 seconds of the songs.

[dmb@uvm]

Well I have heard people say that was kinda a flat intro or a weak ending about songs....or it took awhile to pick up. I guess you havent but Ive heard plenty of song that arent A+ material the whole way through.

[headlessnancie]

45 seconds of the song is 45 seconds of the song

and if its not the beginning, then that gives me all the more reason for me to hate it

[zachstl]

45 seconds of the song is 45 seconds of the song

and if its not the beginning, then that gives me all the more reason for me to hate it

:ugh :ugh

[2stepsoright]

then leave.

wow... this thread has gotten more intense than the time i forgot how to sit down

Family Guy reference :thumbsup

[jay41]

:ugh :ugh

Don't worry, nothing he says makes any sense

[dmb@uvm]

45 seconds of the song is 45 seconds of the song

and if its not the beginning, then that gives me all the more reason for me to hate it

dude you are obviously entitled to an opinion here but you even have to see how irrational your coments are....

[nonewdirections]

people who think i'm too negative, take note of this thread. i'm practically sunshine beaming down on dmb compared to this.

[jr_cigar]

I'll say that I'm a little worried with some of the songs like LB and Stand Up, but some of hte songs also sound f'n amazing. So WAIT TO HEAR THE ALBUM BEFORE YOU PASS ANY JUDGEMENTS. I'm amazed at all the new threads that are being started saying "doesn't stand up suck"... fuck!

[road_designer]

people who think i'm too negative, take note of this thread. i'm practically sunshine beaming down on dmb compared to this.

nah...more like a fly on this piece of shit (the thread that is, not the person)

[nonewdirections]

nah...more like a fly on this piece of shit (the thread that is, not the person)

:lol i meant in general, man.

[headlessnancie]

so..who wants to be friends? :violent

[road_designer]

so..who wants to be friends? :violent

you really need to change that signature. That's false advertising.

[nonewdirections]

so..who wants to be friends? :violent

it's one thing to express a reasoned negative opinion, and quite another to start your own thread insults flying, and when people come down hard on you, you lash out at them too. excessive negativity isn't nice.

[PrettyPenelope]

well, sorry. i couldnt find them anywhere
I think this is the most hysterical comment of the whole thread, especially since dmbc is splattered with stand up threads...

[FJM005]

Your signature makes this the most ironic post of all time.


lol, yes sir :lol

[julio_havok]

Have you heard Everyday? It tears this shit up.

How can you say something like that if ya haven't heard the album yet?!?!?

:rolleyes :ugh :monkey

[goochylittlepig]

Your signature makes this the most ironic post of all time.
lol. and what a dickface anyways

[goochylittlepig]

They are just a joke anyway.
not when you have -2 and like 5 posts

[goochylittlepig]

then leave.

wow... this thread has gotten more intense than the time i forgot how to sit down
you should try to.... stand up!
<looks around, hears crickets>

[MikeGaddis]

This is a pretty fucking good thread :lol

[bense27]

Your signature makes this the most ironic post of all time.

:lol:lol:thumbsup:thumbsup

[m_lebreton]

Your signature makes this the most ironic post of all time.
:thumbsup

[laron384]

Your signature makes this the most ironic post of all time.

:thumbsup Nothing more needs to be said here.

[Chuckg8484]

haha this album is going to be amazing

[killymagee2000]

Wow. I can't believe this bad boy is still going. Like I said earlier:



This mofo should be stickied so that everyone can have a place to complain about the new album, instead of having one of these threads pop up every other hour.

[dmbfan524]

in before its locked..but no i do not like it thus far

[Play_Like_Fonz]

Wow. I can't believe this bad boy is still going.

Same :shrug

[Play_Like_Fonz]

It's just an album people, its not the end of the world, your family isn't dying because Stand Up may not be as good as BTCS.

[Arby]

I dig your post dude thats crazy-easy ass shit your saying but you gotta look at the facts! Mark batman or whatever his name is, is better than glen ballet because at least marcus is letting us stand up when everyday just had fans on the toilet all digity day long



I do not support my above post in anyway

[waynekj]

headlessnancie... that's the most ironic part of the whole thread.. it was started by a guy who admits he's headless.. If you, mr. headlessnancie, a music fan of fans, are going to diss DMB than crack open an ice cold can of musical genius and take a swig of it.. chances are it will taste like shit..to you that is.. to me musical genius tastes like stand up..

[sdaltons]

Good times.

[DownwithDlaw]

Aaron Carter's fan site is lookin for more users, try there

THEY ARE!!? Man am I there! Thanks for the tip! See you DMB turds later. Btw, DMB will never last!;):D

[crushme36]

plenty of threads about this, also, how many times do we have to say dont judge the entire album based on 45 second clips. one more thing, if you are dissatisfied, dont buy the damn album, nobody wants to hear you bitch so go away.

ps lock is inevitable

[Noles20]

Am I the only person who isn't liking what they're hearing on the new cd, Stand Up? I think that the producer was a total mistake. He completely changed DMB's total image. There's nothing wrong with change..but only if it's a good change. This wasn't. Every song sounds the same. I swear Carter does the same drum beat over and over again. Where's Carter's REAL talent? I really hate bashing Dave or any of the other guys. But what happened to "Hello Again", "Joy Ride", "Crazy-Easy", or "Sugar Will"?? What happened to what we heard in the summer? That's Dave. Not "American Baby" with the hip hop vibe. Hopefully this isnt Dave's last cd. The band can't end on a bad note..literally.


Just what we needed, another of these threads!

[2stepnstone]

This band is going to shit faster than it had been in 2001.

Have you heard this album in it's entirety? If not, making this comment now is kind of like wiping your ass before taking a shit. Wait until everything comes out, and then feel free to wipe.

[chenn123]

Am I the only person who isn't liking what they're hearing on the new cd, Stand Up? I think that the producer was a total mistake. He completely changed DMB's total image. There's nothing wrong with change..but only if it's a good change. This wasn't. Every song sounds the same. I swear Carter does the same drum beat over and over again. Where's Carter's REAL talent? I really hate bashing Dave or any of the other guys. But what happened to "Hello Again", "Joy Ride", "Crazy-Easy", or "Sugar Will"?? What happened to what we heard in the summer? That's Dave. Not "American Baby" with the hip hop vibe. Hopefully this isnt Dave's last cd. The band can't end on a bad note..literally.

Two songs that I will bet my pants on are going to be killer:
Louisiana Bayou & Hello Again

[2stepnstone]

THEY ARE!!? Man am I there! Thanks for the tip! See you DMB turds later. Btw, DMB will never last!;):D

It's been almost 15 years and another close to sold out tour and another platinum album on the way!!!

~Peace

[QUAF69]

headlessnancie (thread starter),


Thankyou. I could not agree with you anymore. This band has gone downhill ever since they got of Lilywhite. I'm not going to anyshows this summer because this album will be as bad as everyday. Think about it...DMB is not mainstream...they have enough of a following to keep them popular. But that following developed in the BTCS era and before and have been moving along with the band. I think this album will be a turnpoint for the band, where it really starts to go downhill. I'm not going to buy the album, they have really let me down. At least U2 is still out there and have a great album out!

[road_designer]

headlessnancie (thread starter),


Thankyou. I could not agree with you anymore. This band has gone downhill ever since they got of Lilywhite. I'm not going to anyshows this summer because this album will be as bad as everyday. Think about it...DMB is not mainstream...they have enough of a following to keep them popular. But that following developed in the BTCS era and before and have been moving along with the band. I think this album will be a turnpoint for the band, where it really starts to go downhill. I'm not going to buy the album, they have really let me down. At least U2 is still out there and have a great album out!

yeah cause U2 never made anything mainstream :rolleyes

[marco j]

headlessnancie (thread starter),


Thankyou. I could not agree with you anymore. This band has gone downhill ever since they got of Lilywhite. I'm not going to anyshows this summer because this album will be as bad as everyday. Think about it...DMB is not mainstream...they have enough of a following to keep them popular. But that following developed in the BTCS era and before and have been moving along with the band. I think this album will be a turnpoint for the band, where it really starts to go downhill. I'm not going to buy the album, they have really let me down. At least U2 is still out there and have a great album out!


Steve haven't you learned to spell your name yet!?

[Orpheus]

I like this concept... yes, I like this a lot. Let's group all the bitching into one thread, then I can easily avoid it by not coming here. :)

[OCMarsh]

I'm not going to buy the album, they have really let me down. At least U2 is still out there and have a great album out!

:lol
You just lost any credibilty you might have had. I bought HTDAAB and it's OK, but come on.

[Noles20]

headlessnancie (thread starter),


Thankyou. I could not agree with you anymore. This band has gone downhill ever since they got of Lilywhite. I'm not going to anyshows this summer because this album will be as bad as everyday. Think about it...DMB is not mainstream...they have enough of a following to keep them popular. But that following developed in the BTCS era and before and have been moving along with the band. I think this album will be a turnpoint for the band, where it really starts to go downhill. I'm not going to buy the album, they have really let me down. At least U2 is still out there and have a great album out!

sure, and U2 hasn't changed their sound at all during thier existence.

[marco j]

sure, and U2 hasn't changed their sound at all during thier existence.

...but this latest album is a full circle for them . They really put together a good one. I think Love and Peace is one of their best tunes to date. We're only NOW seeing DMB venture off. That's what I respect about it so much. I will listen to them for forever. Some albums I'll like some I'll hate either way I'm a fan they've earned it. Just like metallica for me , they pissed me off shook me up and I am still ready to slap my money down and go sing creeping death with 20,000 other fans. The point is ....I'm here for the long haul they are a part of me as much as the other things close to my heart!

[shoelessjoe910]

:lol Yea, That's why the album name is Stand Up. You see, when the guys were making the album, they all got a case of really bad diarhea and they'd all being sitting on toilets. So, they'd think they were all done, then "Stand Up", then they'd realize they weren't done. From then on out they starting yelling Stand Up at each other to give each other a hard time. Then one day, after they were all better, Carter laid down a really good groove, Mark Baston heard it and started yelling, "Stand Up, Stand Up." They all started laughing and from then on out it was all history.

There is the story of Stand Up.
That made my fucking night!!! Thanks man!!!

:lol :monkey

[Fiverz]

It is my opinion that opinions have to have some factual base to them.

Wait this comment doesn't.

I just confused myself.

Oh well, bite my shiny metal ass.

[dmbosw41]

its understandable if you dont like the new sound from a jamband perspective. Ever since BTCS, DMB couldnt help themselves but move more to the mainstream. Just look at the song STAY...that is way too radio friendly probably even more than crash. If you dont like the new sound then keep listening to your jam bands cause this band will never be the same and they were never a jamband to begin with. Listen to the album from a pop/rock perspective. I think DMB has effectively captured the present mood of the day with this record from what I have heard. Its upbeat, funky and it will be great to hear loud!

[rh41]

i really like the clips from the new album so far.

...but even if it is a horrible album, its not the end of the world and dmb will still be playing great music at the concerts. we still have the past 15 years of dmb music that im sure will satisfy you for the time it takes for the next album to come out.

[shoelessjoe910]

My deal is I don't understand why people define DMB as a very versatile band (which they are) and then when they do "different" things, which is always, they bitch. I just read a quote from DJM from 5-29-02 that said "I just love music, that's why I play it." That's exactly how I feel too. I also love listening to all different styles, which DMB does! I love that about them. That is what I THOUGHT that is what the majority of the DMB fanbase loved about them, that they do so many different styles and blend these together. Maybe I'm wrong.

[dmbfan524]

again..we havent heard the songs live or the songs in their entirety...but so far carter is almost non existant along with leroi and boyd. ....as someone mentioned before...everyday part 2...this is definitely it...but worse. i dont think the band has another decent studio album in them....lillywhite was god.

[dmbfan4ever]

again..we havent heard the songs live or the songs in their entirety...but so far carter is almost non existant along with leroi and boyd. ....as someone mentioned before...everyday part 2...this is definitely it...but worse. i dont think the band has another decent studio album in them....lillywhite was god.
you're gay

[road_designer]

you're gay

you will probably be de-repped for that but :thumbsup :lol

[SeekUpOregon]

Aaron Carter's fan site is lookin for more users, try there Why is it when people post an honest opinion that does not match everone elses they are flamed? I do not like what I've heard so far :shrug but thewre is always old Dave.

[shoelessjoe910]

you will probably be de-repped for that but :thumbsup :lol
Man, you've been rackin' up them pieces of flare!!! Good for you!

[road_designer]

Man, you've been rackin' up them pieces of flare!!! Good for you!

it was the article :D

[mazda]

The new songs have been pretty thorough so far with the exception of some of the choruses. Regardless, there's no reason not to be excited about a great band experimenting with new sounds and with a new producer. The band is even throwing in a bonus cd which should please a lot of folks who liked the summer 04' material. I remember the backlash when Crash came out and the crying that accompanied BTCS. Give it time, crack open a Guiness listen to the album then base your judgement. We have NEW music coming folks. If your not excited just wait for another Live Trax release or put your ol dmb cd's on repeat.....Let's keep it moving.

[dobyblue]

well, sorry. i couldnt find them anywhere
Bullshit. They're all over the first three pages of threads.

You couldn't find any because you didn't look which means you didn't read the FAQ before you started posting which means you couldn't care less about the rules on this site.

Do you see why you're getting so many negative replies to your thread? I should hope so.

[aspenbooboo41]

Um, have any of us actually heard the album yet? OH, right... didn't think so. So, anyone who has an actual opinion of the quality of this album.... well, just think about how ridiculous that really is.

It's one thing to maybe not be so jazzed about a clip, but to go on and on about how this is the end of DMB and this sounds nothing like them, blah, blah, blah.... it's getting old already.

[siouxsiesue]

Hopefully this isnt Dave's last cd. The band can't end on a bad note..literally.

Nothing good??? Last CD for DMB? Way to be an optimist!

As Dave wrote and you have in your sig: "I'm not going to change my ways just to please you or appease you." :thumbsup

[killymagee2000]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: This thread needs to be stickied so that everyone who feels compelled to whine about the new album can do so without having to start a gazillion new threads on the subject! We'll change the name of the thread to:

"**The Official Let's Bitch and Complain About the New DMB Album 'Stand Up' Even Though None of Us Have Heard the Album and Therefore Can't Really Form an Opinion About It, But We'll Complain About It Anyways Because We're Small-Minded People Who Don't Like to Embrace the Concept of Evolution and Change Thread.**"

On the other hand, people could just post in the thread started by dobyblue, which is already stickied. :rolleyes

[shoelessjoe910]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: This thread needs to be stickied so that everyone who feels compelled to whine about the new album can do so without having to start a gazillion new threads on the subject! We'll change the name of the thread to:

"**The Official Let's Bitch and Complain About the New DMB Album 'Stand Up' Even Though None of Us Have Heard the Album and Therefore Can't Really Form an Opinion About It, But We'll Complain About It Anyways Because We're Small-Minded People Who Don't Like to Embrace the Concept of Evolution and Change Thread.**"

On the other hand, people could just post in the thread started by dobyblue, which is already stickied. :rolleyes
:lol

Thanks for the laugh before sleepy time!

:hump

[killymagee2000]

:lol

Thanks for the laugh before sleepy time!

:hump

Anytime. ;)

[ah1252]

If these clips are any indication of the finished album will sound like ...then I'm excited for Dave Matthews Band, because I think what I've heard so far has been astounding. :thumbsup

[smokentrees]

I can't wait to hear Stolen Away.. live, that is so going to be one that we all are going to shake our asses to...even those of you who are bitch'n and groan'n about this cd have'n nothing good about it

[The Onion]

I, for one, am pumped about it! Stolen Away sounds so fucking awesome.

[dandtrock]

Am I the only person who isn't liking what they're hearing on the new cd, Stand Up? I think that the producer was a total mistake. He completely changed DMB's total image. There's nothing wrong with change..but only if it's a good change. This wasn't. Every song sounds the same. I swear Carter does the same drum beat over and over again. Where's Carter's REAL talent? I really hate bashing Dave or any of the other guys. But what happened to "Hello Again", "Joy Ride", "Crazy-Easy", or "Sugar Will"?? What happened to what we heard in the summer? That's Dave. Not "American Baby" with the hip hop vibe. Hopefully this isnt Dave's last cd. The band can't end on a bad note..literally.

Didn't read the thread. But this tour is going to be like Too Much on steriods. These songs may sound iffy now, but I truly believe that these tunes will rock live. Louisiana Bayou live... :thumbsup

[DMBfan41]

i love people that judge songs by 30 seconds. I bet people are gonna be going when they hear them live, WHOA! I didn't know there 4 more minutes to this song!

[cmckim]

Didn't read the thread. But this tour is going to be like Too Much on steriods. These songs may sound iffy now, but I truly believe that these tunes will rock live. Louisiana Bayou live... :thumbsup

Definetly! I'm alot more excited about this years tour than last years.

[twostep721]

damn! i just realized i completely missed the stolen away clip, and i'm hearing thats the best one. i'm about to go over to the thread, but how it?

[jay41]

...but so far carter is almost non existant along with leroi and boyd. ........lillywhite was god.

Carter even admitted he's less busy on this album, just cause it's simpler doesn't mean he can't go off on thes tunes live. As far as Boyd, listen to Intro, he's fucking all over that. And as far as LeRoi, incase you haven't heard he's the FIIIIYAAAAHHHHHH, he owns this album.

Lillywhite was good for the band in the 90s, but look at the lillywhite sessions, sure the music was good, but the band was depressed and wanted to play football more than be in the studio. They are having fun again in the studio with Batson, and they are all in on it together, not like Everyday with Ballard.

[nonewdirections]

i love people that judge songs by 30 seconds. I bet people are gonna be going when they hear them live, WHOA! I didn't know there 4 more minutes to this song!

ahem! 30-50 seconds.

[jmbasquiat]

Your signature makes this the most ironic post of all time.

hahahaha....

[jmbasquiat]

headlessnancie (thread starter),


Thankyou. I could not agree with you anymore. This band has gone downhill ever since they got of Lilywhite. I'm not going to anyshows this summer because this album will be as bad as everyday. Think about it...DMB is not mainstream...they have enough of a following to keep them popular. But that following developed in the BTCS era and before and have been moving along with the band. I think this album will be a turnpoint for the band, where it really starts to go downhill. I'm not going to buy the album, they have really let me down. At least U2 is still out there and have a great album out!

Anyone who thinks that DMB is NOT MAINSTREAM, really has their heads up their or someone else's ass. Maybe this is sarcasm I'm not picking up on and I'm responding because studying for exams has me delusional, but it should be repeated nonetheless. DMB couldn't be any more mainstream. He's in movies!!! Disney movies!!! You mistake his suppossed "low key" lifestyle as something it isn't: 1) Low Key, and 2) normal, like you or whatever.

FREAKS!!!
FREAKS!!!
FREEEEEEEEEaaaaK!!!!
CREEEEPS!!!!!
CREEPS!!!
FREEKY CREEPY CREEPS!!!!

=========D



Feel free to add reputation points without my prior consent.

[Noles20]

Anyone who thinks that DMB is NOT MAINSTREAM, really has their heads up their or someone else's ass. Maybe this is sarcasm I'm not picking up on and I'm responding because studying for exams has me delusional, but it should be repeated nonetheless. DMB couldn't be any more mainstream. He's in movies!!! Disney movies!!! You mistake his suppossed "low key" lifestyle as something it isn't: 1) Low Key, and 2) normal, like you or whatever.

If the music is good, and I like what I've heard so far, then I don't give a shit if he is mainstream or not. Now what!

[laron384]

DMB couldn't be any more mainstream. He's in movies!!!

Tell me, just who is this DMB fellow you speak of?

[esc2476]

DMB couldn't be any more mainstream. He's in movies!!! Disney movies!!!
Just because someone is in a movie does not mean that they are mainstream. In any event, it does not really matter whether DMB is mainstream or not.

[DMBand520]

I agree that this isnt the "real DMB" but I dont think that means you cant like the CD. It sounds like there's going to be a bunch of good songs off this album. Although I do agree that over the summer when I heard Crazy Easy, Hello Again, Joy Ride, Sugar Will, and Good Good Time I felt like it was the first time in years that DMB put out any new, good, DMB sounding songs. Everyday was not the bands style and the BS stuff was mostly written in 2000 or earlier. So it's been a while since we got new stuff like last summer and I'm a little disappointed that only Hello Again made the CD.

[aspenbooboo41]

Anyone who thinks that DMB is NOT MAINSTREAM, really has their heads up their or someone else's ass. Maybe this is sarcasm I'm not picking up on and I'm responding because studying for exams has me delusional, but it should be repeated nonetheless. DMB couldn't be any more mainstream. He's in movies!!! Disney movies!!! You mistake his suppossed "low key" lifestyle as something it isn't: 1) Low Key, and 2) normal, like you or whatever.

FREAKS!!!
FREAKS!!!
FREEEEEEEEEaaaaK!!!!
CREEEEPS!!!!!
CREEPS!!!
FREEKY CREEPY CREEPS!!!!

=========D

Feel free to add reputation points without my prior consent.

Imo, DMB is about as mainstream as the Grateful Dead was. Just because most people have heard of The Dave Matthews Band, doesn't mean that most of those people have ever heard their music or have a clue as to what it's all about. I really don't see the logic in your post.
Also, with a post like that, I'd be careful about soliciting rep. points

[ECLEKTIK RHYTHM]

You know i have been hanging back and reading what ppl have to say which the community is divided right now but I must add that while i first listened to the clips i was taken aback by the change up of sound but last night i played all the released clips again and was getting pumped up for the full versions of these songs. Man i know for fact that a great deal of ppl on these boards don't remember the old days of the band and hindsight is always 20/20 so listening to the pre-BTCS shows ppl are like damn this band rocks but it took time to get there and ppl bashed BTCS at first and LWS too. Point being that i don't care what album has been released they all have to grow on you and to bash the clips is just plain PMSing by the "fans". When UTAD was first released it had to grow on me and my friends just like the new album. Just to draw a legendary comparison Led Zep and the Beatles both have a plethora of tunes and not everyone is a masterpiece but a great collection of work nonetheless. So please stop bitching that the music sounds too R&B or Rap driven b/c that is the current trend in music and i give the band credit for trying something a little out of the ordinary but just remember DMB is a band not just Dave's direction and for sure other musical genres have to be explored.

Just My $0.02,

J.T.

[Mspacman14]

Your signature makes this the most ironic post of all time.

:thumbsup ding ding.

[ECLEKTIK RHYTHM]

Imo, DMB is about as mainstream as the Grateful Dead was. Just because most people have heard of The Dave Matthews Band, doesn't mean that most of those people have ever heard their music or have a clue as to what it's all about. I really don't see the logic in your post.
Also, with a post like that, I'd be careful about soliciting rep. points
:thumbsup

Yeah could u imagine what the fans were saying circa-late 70's when the Dead explored the Disco driven sound. i'm sure if there was the internet and message boards ppl would have predicted the end of the Dead with that attempt but they recovered.

[cherone21]

gonna be a great album!

[webbah]

Give it some time.........

Some of you may not believe this but I hated Before These Crowded Streets when it first came out. I was like "what is this Egyptian crap they are throwing in here?" The only song I could stand was Don't Drink the Water. Now - for obvious reasons - many of the songs off that album are some of my favorite DMB tunes. I can see the same thing happening with Stand Up - at first - many of us may be like WTF?!?! So - the moral of my story - give it some time to actually do some solid listening before you judge.

[ECLEKTIK RHYTHM]

Give it some time.........

Some of you may not believe this but I hated Before These Crowded Streets when it first came out. I was like "what is this Egyptian crap they are throwing in here?" The only song I could stand was Don't Drink the Water. Now - for obvious reasons - many of the songs off that album are some of my favorite DMB tunes. I can see the same thing happening with Stand Up - at first - many of us may be like WTF?!?! So - the moral of my story - give it some time to actually do some solid listening before you judge.

Thank you proving my above post exactly! :thumbsup

[headlessnancie]

iIf you dont like the new sound then keep listening to your jam bands cause this band will never be the same and they were never a jamband to begin with.

you're an idiot dave fan

dmb not a jamband? wtf? you're an ass..even bigger than i am

[headlessnancie]

..and you people arent making sense about making a big deal about my signature..

its not really irony

read it again

[Matt1838]

Yes it is. DMB isn't going to change the way they want to make their new album to please you or appease you. This is the band members' gift to themselves.

[cruscott35]

I shit on this thread. I honestly dont think people think this cd is bad, cause it sounds pretty decent so far. People are afraid of change, period. They hear these clips and they dont hear the Ants or Warehouse sound so they wet the bed. On the flip side, if DMB kept putting cd's out that sounded like "vintage" DMB, people would be bitching that they need a new, fresh sound. Its a lose lose situation for the band. A true fan of any band progresses with the music.

First off, I hope I don't come off as a dick in this, I think I have in just about every thread I've posted in lately. Secondly, someone earlier mentioned something about post count, that shit is assinine. Some people, myself included, have been around for a long, long time, like dmbml days (what??? exactly, alot of people don't even remember that site), we just never post. But to Rippy's comments. To say "it sounds decent" so far seems to be OK around these parts based on the clips, but on the other hand, to say it sucks based on the same clips, is immediately met with a barrage of "you can't judge an album..." or "you haven't even heard...." blah, blah, blah. Its the same thing, just differing opinions. Secondly, and I've used this arguement many times, just because it makes the most sense to me to relate to, so here goes...I'm a HUGE Detroit Tigers fan. I always have been, always will be. If they all of a sudden just sent Bonderman, Guillien, Inge, Pudge, and Nook Logan to the waiver wire, I would be pissed. And I would vocally tell anyone who would listen, including a Detroit Tiger's message board, how upset I was and how much I don't like the "change". So while I agree that the band changing is a lose lose situation, to say that "any true fan" progresses with the music, I think, is ignorant.
Scotty

[solidsnake]

the way i see it, Stand UP > Everyday

[cherone21]

You need to listen to the clips through speakers or head phones, do not use your computer, you will quickly hear the fact that this is Stefan's album, sooo funky, sooo smooth, I love it. Personally I think they are trying to eliminate some meatheads by making music that is more jammy and sounds less mainstream. It is about time!!!!!!!!1

[marco j]

I personally am very happy o see the bnd start to experiment, but anyone who thinks this music isn't 'pop' or 'mainstream' realy does have their head up their ass. Same thing goes with anyone whoever thought they were a jam band! Sorry they never have been , Dave just writes interesting music that's all. Now we've got the band collectively writing together...and obviously a different sound. The most amazing part of the whole thing is that these guys are so talented and level headed that we may be about to go through another music evolution (ala Beatles ect.) right now in our time with our favorite band. I don't only mean just with stand up but with hopefully many new albums to come. Sorry but two of the best albums every made (Sgt. Peppers and Abbey Road) were shocks to the system and I think the boys are capable of that.

[Ovitz]

Am I the only person who isn't liking what they're hearing on the new cd, Stand Up? I think that the producer was a total mistake. He completely changed DMB's total image. There's nothing wrong with change..but only if it's a good change. This wasn't. Every song sounds the same. I swear Carter does the same drum beat over and over again. Where's Carter's REAL talent? I really hate bashing Dave or any of the other guys. But what happened to "Hello Again", "Joy Ride", "Crazy-Easy", or "Sugar Will"?? What happened to what we heard in the summer? That's Dave. Not "American Baby" with the hip hop vibe. Hopefully this isnt Dave's last cd. The band can't end on a bad note..literally.

Most non-DMB fans #1 complaint about all DMB music is that it sounds the same. Did it ever occur to you that maybe you're just not familiar with the songs yet?

[Ovitz]

..and you people arent making sense about making a big deal about my signature..

its not really irony

read it again

I read it again. It's still ironic.

[FJM005]

the way i see it, Stand UP > Everyday

Amen:)

[FJM005]

Somebody made a good point in another thread about BTCS. What were you thinking when you heard a 40 second clip of The Stone? It was VERY different at the time. Even though the clip for that was scary, it has grown to be one of my top 5 favorite DMB tunes. Maybe when the alubm comes out, everyone will realize that DMB has not gone to shit.....







These songs are gonna kick ASS live!

[Orpheus]

Somebody made a good point in another thread about BTCS. What were you thinking when you heard a 40 second clip of The Stone? It was VERY different at the time. Even though the clip for that was scary, it has grown to be one of my top 5 favorite DMB tunes. Maybe when the alubm comes out, everyone will realize that DMB has not gone to shit.....

No, DMB would have gone to shit if they had made a predictable, 90's sounding album. They would have become old, tired, and irrelevant.

I'm confident this album's going to be a hit. No 2 DMB albums sound alike, and that's a rare, great thing in a band.

[MistreatedLewis]

the way i see it, Stand UP > Everyday

Additionally, if all of the songs on the record were actually only the 40 second clips that we have (making the total running time about 10 minutes), I think it'd still be more enjoyable than Busted Stuff...

[SideshowRob]

anyone who is hating the songs i have one thing two things to say...

a) what if the 40 second clip you heard of Stay was the part where Stefan breaks it down? or of Ants Marching where Dave is doing his "cut cut cut" rap... or the slow intro to Dancing Nancies... or the slow intro to Say Goodbye... those clips dont reflect the nature of the songs... as we've heard from accounts from the listening party... these clips arent good representitives of the songs as a whole

and

b) Experimentation opens the doors for the possiblities of more kickass live shows... How kickass were D+F shows... these new songs are gonna create the potential for DMB to blow the pavillion roofs off of their shows... i think that some of these songs may be the best live songs we hear... (See: Stand Up, Hunger For The Great Light, Hello Again, Louisiana Bayou and Old Dirt Hill...)

you may not like the songs... but do they have potential? we already know about Hello Again and how wicked it is live... and how it doesnt sound as good (IMO)... why couldn't one apply that to the other songs... sometimes unproduced music is the best...

[bense27]

anyone who is hating the songs i have one thing two things to say...

a) what if the 40 second clip you heard of Stay was the part where Stefan breaks it down? or of Ants Marching where Dave is doing his "cut cut cut" rap... or the slow intro to Dancing Nancies... or the slow intro to Say Goodbye... those clips dont reflect the nature of the songs... as we've heard from accounts from the listening party... these clips arent good representitives of the songs as a whole

and

b) Experimentation opens the doors for the possiblities of more kickass live shows... How kickass were D+F shows... these new songs are gonna create the potential for DMB to blow the pavillion roofs off of their shows... i think that some of these songs may be the best live songs we hear... (See: Stand Up, Hunger For The Great Light, Hello Again, Louisiana Bayou and Old Dirt Hill...)

you may not like the songs... but do they have potential? we already know about Hello Again and how wicked it is live... and how it doesnt sound as good (IMO)... why couldn't one apply that to the other songs... sometimes unproduced music is the best...


I totally agree with you but what about the American Baby Intro? That will be sweet live.

[2SteppingInVA]

I will be more than happy to acknowledge my opinion on how bad the cd is then, too. If you really want me to.

are you aware of the meaning of the word acknowledge, or do you think there is "Nothing Good at All" about the English language either.

[cmckim]

..and you people arent making sense about making a big deal about my signature..

its not really irony

read it again

Way to go! A pair of "making" and "about" in one sentence. I read this three times to aquire the meaning and I finally got it.

Headlessnancie is Portuguiese for douchbag.

[AFly01]

Am I the only person who isn't liking what they're hearing on the new cd, Stand Up? I think that the producer was a total mistake. He completely changed DMB's total image. There's nothing wrong with change..but only if it's a good change. This wasn't. Every song sounds the same. I swear Carter does the same drum beat over and over again. Where's Carter's REAL talent? I really hate bashing Dave or any of the other guys. But what happened to "Hello Again", "Joy Ride", "Crazy-Easy", or "Sugar Will"?? What happened to what we heard in the summer? That's Dave. Not "American Baby" with the hip hop vibe. Hopefully this isnt Dave's last cd. The band can't end on a bad note..literally.

may 10th...just save it

[cherone21]

hey buddy, if you dont like it then dont go to the shows man, because me personally and im sure there are many ppl who agree with me, we dont wanna see you sittin on your little blanket holding your phone up to your friends because they finally played your favorite song "where are you going". you go there to give it up to the band and get nuts and dance and sing no matter what the hell they are playing, and if everyone would just finally do that and quit being jerkoffs, they would probably get so psyched up and start doing some real sick shit, so if you dont like it, i heard the backstreet boys are back on tour, HOP ON!!!!

[headlessnancie]

you guys make me laugh. really. i <3 you all.

and dmb is starting to sound VERY mainstream. they're becoming sellouts. just like gwen stefani did. and guess who her producer was??? :freak

it will no longer be "dave and tim" but "dave and 50 cent"



p.s. i'm a female.. dont make any judgments next time

[SideshowRob]

how do u guys feel about Stand Up now that you've heard Louisiana Bayou and Stand Up live? j/w

[headlessnancie]

we dont wanna see you sittin on your little blanket holding your phone up to your friends because they finally played your favorite song "where are you going"

..pssst, i'm not a very big fan of "where are you going"

but you wouldn't know that the because your head is way too far up my ass

[adam&eve]

headless, sorry to be on this 'bible thing' but did you know that john the baptist was decapetated.

[OCMarsh]

you guys make me laugh. really. i <3 you all.

and dmb is starting to sound VERY mainstream. they're becoming sellouts. just like gwen stefani did. and guess who her producer was??? :freak

it will no longer be "dave and tim" but "dave and 50 cent"



p.s. i'm a female.. dont make any judgments next time

You seem like a real dear.

Why don't you just let this crap go away?

[petelax06]

I think both song after hearing them live were awsome and are just going to grow even better over time, when Bonnaroo rolls around these songs/whole cd will be rocking Live reguarless of the cd's cuts!

[killymagee2000]

You seem like a real dear.

Why don't you just let this crap go away?

Yes. Just let it go.

[SideshowRob]

you guys make me laugh. really. i <3 you all.

and dmb is starting to sound VERY mainstream. they're becoming sellouts. just like gwen stefani did. and guess who her producer was??? :freak

it will no longer be "dave and tim" but "dave and 50 cent"



p.s. i'm a female.. dont make any judgments next time

just wondering... but what exactly is the transition that a band needs to take before they cross over to Mainstream?

shorter songs? experiementing outside of their 'jam band hippie' stereotype? im sorry... in the words of Dave Matthews, "Why dont you shut the F*** up!"

Dave and 50 Cent... thats the dumbest thing ive read on these boards... its Dave and The Game obviously