Stand Up Album Review

[Designer43]

Ok, so I FINALLY got a chance to sit down and type up a review for all of you wondering what the new album is like. I’m sorry for the delay, but I jus switched jobs last week and really didn’t have the time to spend on writing up this review. So here’s the first half of the album. I hope you like it; but if not, then you can make your own decision about the album when it comes out in about a week.

1. Dream Girl -

Drums, Percussion - Carter

Bass - Stefan

Guitar, Vocals - Dave

Soprano & Tenor Saxophones - Leroi

Violin - Boyd

Keyboards, Piano - Butch

Keyboards, Piano - Mark

Additional Percussion - Lee Grove

Very nice way to start the album in my opinion. Kind of mellow but funky at the same time. Dave does a sort of Paul Simon/African vocal intro with a whole slew of layered voices; most of which to seem to be his. Carter keeps it simple on the kit, but it’s a nice funky beat that really helps the song to be more likable. Violins add a nice touch to the overall feel of the song, very dramatic at times, and soft at others. This song is definitely one of the more typical DMB style songs (in my opinion), with the acoustic guitar, Dave’s very natural sounding voice, Leroi’s standard sax style, Stefan keeping it flowing on bass and Boyd adding a nice additional touch to the rest of the violins.

2. Old Dirt Hill (Bring That Beat Back) -

Drums, Percussion, Vocals - Carter

Bass- Stefan

Guitar, Vocals - Dave

Violin - Boyd

Piano, Wurlitzer - Butch

Rhodes - Mark

This is a fun tune. Nice guitar progression by Dave on an acoustic. Dave and Carter’s voices have always complimented each other’s, and this song really proves it again. Really nice playful melody that puts you in a good mood from the start. Mark did something to make Carter’s snare sound much different in a bunch of the songs for this album, this happens to be one of them. It almost sounds electronic at times, but I think he just wound up that snare pretty tight to get that sound. I feel this song is focused on the vocals and music, but not complexity or jamming. The band also brought the strings back into this one as well which is a nice touch again..

3. Stand Up -

Drums, Vocals - Carter

Bass, Vocals - Stefan

Guitar, Vocals - Dave

Tenor Saxophone, Vocals - Leroi

Violin, Vocals - Boyd

Keyboards - Mark

Ok. This one has Mark Batson written all over it. Definitely very hip-hop/funky. Most of you have now heard the clip of this from the Jazz Fest show last night, so I’ll keep this one short. Carter once again doesn’t do anything too special on this one, but he definitely has a good time with the beat; and it’s different than his usual style. Dave plays an electric on Stand Up and it’s very repetitive throughout the song, but that’s basically the overall feeling of the song, so it fits nicely. Boyd and Roi add some nice parts in this one. Roi has a short sax solo just past the mid point of the song, plus he jams out near the end as well. I have to say that in a lot of the songs, I feel like Boyd’s violin is too quiet and should have been brought up in the mix. A nice touch was having all of the guys sing backup.

4. American Baby Intro -

Drums - Carter

Bass - Stefan

Guitar, Piano - Dave

Tenor Saxophone - Leroi

Violin - Boyd Tinsley

Additional Piano - Mark

Very nice, mellow intro into American Baby. I think Roi is in control of some sound effects/Pyrotechnics of what seems to be bombs going off and machine guns firing….that is the backdrop for the entire intro. This is pretty much like one of the Intro/Outro’s on BTCS. Dave plays a nice piano tune, Carter has a little more freedom in drum style since this is more of a jam.

5. American Baby - Do I really need to say anything? I didn’t think so.

6. Smooth Rider -

Drums - Carter

Bass - Stefan

Guitar, Vocals - Dave

Piano, Organ - Mark

Personally, my least favorite track on the album. Just very mellow, and jazz/blues based. Not a bad song, but just not a highlight for me. If any of you are thinking why Carter doesn’t go crazy like on previous albums, just wait until you hear this one! You’ll be wondering if someone else sat in to play on this track. It’s just so simple, 4/4 beat and doesn’t have anything special in it. In a nutshell, Dave plays guitar, Batson plays Piano and Organ, and Stefan on Bass. No Boyd or Leroi. Thank God it’s only 2:18 long. You can make the call when you hear it.

7. Everybody Wake Up (Our Finest Hour Arrives) -

Drums, Percussion - Carter

Bass - Stefan

Guitar, Vocals - Dave

Tenor & Baritone Saxophones - Leroi

Electric Violin, Mandolin - Boyd

Rhodes, Organ - Butch

Mellotron, Vox, Percussion - Mark

Boyd starts this one off with some plucking on a mandolin and then the full string section jumps in and it’s reminiscent of “The Stone”/“Halloween” ala BTCS. Carter plays a straight forward beat, but some of the hi-hat work is syncopated, with some of those off beat hits on the toms. Besides the fact that it’s a pretty straight forward beat and rhythm, this song is by far one of my favorites. Nice percussion on some bongos and such in the background, the different style keyboards are sounding sweet. It sounds like they did a lot of production work on this one, to me somewhat reminiscent of Brian Wilson and Pet Sounds. A lot of thought put in and arranging of instruments. Definitely a great tune.

8. Out of My Hands -

A home recording

Drums - Carter

Bass - Stefan

Piano, Vocals - Dave

This song is amazingly beautiful! Dave, Carter and Stefan must have been playing around with this one day and decided to record it at some point. The note I got on my track listing has it listed as “a home recording”. Just a beautifully composed song by Dave and his voice doesn’t get more pure than this on the entire album.

9. Hello Again -

Drums - Carter

Bass - Stefan

Guitar, Vocals - Dave

Tenor Saxophone - Leroi

Violin - Boyd

Organ - Butch

Just like it was played during the Summer tour of 2004. I also need to express how I feel this song doesn’t really fit on this album. It may fit with the entire theme, but the recording and style of Hello Again is very true to DMB’s original format. With this album being a major departure for the band, this track doesn’t really fit on the album for me. Anyone else feel the same way from hearing the clip? Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great song, but after you hear the rest of the songs, there’s just something about it….

[TobiasClown]

great man thanks.

[tripinbartender]

cool review!

[dmb2much40]

thanks for the review. i can't wait for out of my hands.

[bdrum992]

After hearing the clip I had a feeling that out of my hands was the song where dave plays the piano. I think this will be a really cool song to hear this tour. I think its going to be the first song in an encore where it's a dave solo (gravedigger style). That would be fun to hear before they rock out to an Ants or Two Step

[tdowe99]

Nice :thumbsup
For as much as this album doesn't have "guests," Mark sure seems to be on alot.

2000th post

[BeQuietAndDrive]

Thanks dude :thumbsup Looking forward to the rest.

Anyway, I like your honesty. You aren't overly positive or negative, honest about the album. I like it.

[chrisandiego]

Great review so far! Thank you much

[Nitro1515]

thanks for taking the time :thumbsup

[goochylittlepig]

so i noticed Stand Up (song) has everyone listed as vocals. in parts of the song last night, i can make out some weak backing vocals. im betting that it's supposed to be like wwys or something live, where everyone sings. but they didnt turn them up enough last night, which is why we get only dave's part, which sounds so naked and weird. just a thought. hopefully someone fixes that before they start the tour

[danster]

really nice, honest review, second half coming???

[dmbhoosier21]

thanks! next tuesday cant come soon enough

[jayman414]

thats really good, thanks a lot man, im lookin forward to the cd. i happen to agree with you on the point about hello again, in my opinion it doesnt really fit with the rest of the clips we've all heard, but i like that song a lot so im not goin to complain.


jason

[som3d3vil34]

Thanks for the review, Im so damn excited!

[shoelessjoe910]

Thanks for taking the time to give us this! Looking forward to reading the rest later!

[jayman414]

oh by the way where is the stand up clip from the jazz festival. is that up here? if not can someone hook me up with it???

thanks

[julio_havok]

Cool! I just can't understand why Roi plays a tenor on Hello Again instead of using the baritone he's used in the live versions... :(

[shoelessjoe910]

oh by the way where is the stand up clip from the jazz festival. is that up here? if not can someone hook me up with it???

thanks
There's a thread stickied with both Louisiana Bayou and Stand Up mp3s from last night.

[julio_havok]

BTW, voz on EWU means vocals?

(Mellotron, Vox, Percussion - Mark)

[RetardedMonkey]

9. Hello Again -

Drums - Carter

Bass - Stefan

Guitar, Vocals - Dave

Tenor Saxophone - Leroi

Violin - Boyd

Organ - Butch

Just like it was played during the Summer tour of 2004. I also need to express how I feel this song doesn’t really fit on this album. It may fit with the entire theme, but the recording and style of Hello Again is very true to DMB’s original format. With this album being a major departure for the band, this track doesn’t really fit on the album for me. Anyone else feel the same way from hearing the clip? Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great song, but after you hear the rest of the songs, there’s just something about it….



I think that Hello Again was probably recorded very early in the sessions (probably with all the other new summer 04 songs), before this "new" sound came about. It sounds more similar to the Joyride clip than any other clip released thus far. I think they wanted to put something on the album that they debuted in the summer tour, and they thought this song was strongest, so it made the cut.

[Fanatic]

Just a quick question, if you don't mind answering- how were Roi and Boyd utilized? Were they mainly just riffs and break-down jams, or else did they get any songs where they got to be driving forces behind the melody?

[Designer43]

BTW, voz on EWU means vocals?

(Mellotron, Vox, Percussion - Mark)

Here's the definition:
Vox \Vox\, n. [L. See Voice (http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/voice).]
A voice.
[1913 Webster]

Vox humana (http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/vox+humana)[L., human voice] (Mus.), a reed stop in an
organ, made to imitate the human voice.
[1913 Webster]

vox
n : the sound made by the vibration of vocal folds modified by
the resonance of the vocal tract; "a singer takes good
care of his voice"; "the giraffe cannot make any
vocalizations" [syn: voice (http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/voice), vocalization (http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/vocalization),
vocalisation (http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/vocalisation), phonation (http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/phonation)]

I think Mark may have put his own vocals or Dave's vocals through an organ...if that's possible.

[BeQuietAndDrive]

Just a quick question, if you don't mind answering- how were Roi and Boyd utilized? Were they mainly just riffs and break-down jams, or else did they get any songs where they got to be driving forces behind the melody?

From the clips we've heard, "Stolen Away on 55th and 3rd" is Roi's song most definitely, and Boyd obviously is the force behind "American Baby" and from the looks of it "Everybody Wake Up"

[Designer43]

For as much as this album doesn't have "guests," Mark sure seems to be on alot.

Yeah, he really had his hand in on this album. But the band may have wanted him to be involved.

[BeQuietAndDrive]

Designer, what would you say (don't drop the big one) to be your favorite songs? Least favorites?

[firedncr4136]

since Designer was nice enough to play it for me over the phone, i'm in love with out of my hands. i had the chills when i heard it for the first time. i'm really hoping it's played on tour :multi

[Pantala]

So,
I must have missed it somewhere, but how do you have access to this album?


Thanks....

[julio_havok]

Here's the definition:
Vox \Vox\, n. [L. See Voice (http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/voice).]
A voice.
[1913 Webster]

Vox humana (http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/vox+humana)[L., human voice] (Mus.), a reed stop in an
organ, made to imitate the human voice.
[1913 Webster]

vox
n : the sound made by the vibration of vocal folds modified by
the resonance of the vocal tract; "a singer takes good
care of his voice"; "the giraffe cannot make any
vocalizations" [syn: voice (http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/voice), vocalization (http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/vocalization),
vocalisation (http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/vocalisation), phonation (http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/phonation)]

I think Mark may have put his own vocals or Dave's vocals through an organ...if that's possible.

I thought it was written vocals on the notes you have and you wrote vox here to simplify... Had never heard about this vox humana thing and now I think that that's what vox meant on the notes.

[Pantala]

So,
I must have missed it somewhere, but how do you have access to this album?


Thanks....
Nevermind, I just read Designer's past posts....



Thanks for your thoughts...

[2stepp41]

who is lee grove

[goochylittlepig]

From the clips we've heard, "Stolen Away on 55th and 3rd" is Roi's song most definitely, and Boyd obviously is the force behind "American Baby" and from the looks of it "Everybody Wake Up"
really? id say dave and fonzie are the force behind american baby. i havent heard enough of ewu to tell.

[goochylittlepig]

who is lee grove
lol yeah, seriously?

[Npys3]

Thanks for the review.
I dont mean to be greedy, but is there a review for the last couple of songs on the album? thanks

[Designer43]

Here's the rest for you all to enjoy! Thanks for all of the compliments. I was completely honest and hopefully you'll feel similar once you hear it.

10. Louisiana Bayou -
Drums - Carter

Bass - Stefan

Guitar, Vocals - Dave

Violin - Boyd

Wurlitzer - Butch

Organ, Clavinet - Mark

Another one of my favorite tracks. Great country feel to this one, with Boyd driving the feel of the song along with his violin. I’m pretty sure this song is in 6/8 time, but I’m not 100% sure. Carter again does standard playing on both the hi-hat and snare, but it fits very nicely with this song and drives it along. Definitely a head bouncing song, and a song you’d crank up in your car. Dave’s vocal style is very cool in this one…very loose and free. Butch plays the Wurlitzer which is a type of piano….very deep and heavy sounding, so it really adds to the Southern feel of being on the bayou on a hot summer day to the song. My one small problem with this song which also has to do with Hello Again, is that they basically run together. Hello Again, as you have probably seen by it’s length in time is only 3:53 long, and it ends with Carter playing a fill; then abruptly stops and Louisiana Bayou starts with Dave playing chords on his guitar. This song is the longest track on the album mostly because the band jams the last minute or two, with Boyd jamming out, Butch helping out, and after hearing the recording from last night’s show, it’s sounds as if they added Leroi into the mix nicely. Should be one of the long jam songs on tour this summer.



11. Stolen Away On 55th & 3rd -

Drums, Percussion - Carter

Bass - Stefan

Guitar, Vocals - Dave

Tenor Saxophone - Leroi

Violin - Boyd

Rhodes - Butch

Synthesizers - Mark

This is the second track that Mark had his hands ALL over. When I initially heard this one I thought they had put some random track by some other pop artist on here; but then I drastically changed my mind after listening to it a couple of times. A very hip-hop feel from the start, but then the acoustic guitar kicks in and Leroi starts adding some sax. Great lyrics true to Dave Matthews’ style and a beautiful melody to go along with it. Leroi adds some great sax throughout the song, while Boyd adds some very pretty violin.

SIDE NOTE: I know I haven’t mentioned Stefan much throughout this review, but I honestly can’t say that much about him. He plays great, but he’s low in the mix and it’s sometimes hard for me to decipher what he’s doing. Once you all have it, and for those of you who are bass players, I’d like to hear your comments.



12. You Might Die Trying -

Drums - Carter

Bass - Stefan

Guitar, Vocals - Dave

Tenor & Baritone Saxophones - Leroi

Electric Violin - Boyd

Background Vocals - Butch

Organ, Wurlitzer - Mark

Dave plays an electric guitar on this track again. This one is very Rock & Roll in my opinion…although some people may disagree once the album comes out. But once all the instruments play together, it’s very much like your typical rock & roll song you would hear on the radio. I’m actually surprised they didn’t consider this one as the second single. Carter mixes this one up with some straight snare hits and also hits on the rim while resting the stick on his snare(I forget what that’s called, but he’s not doing a rim shot). Boyd does a nice mix of plucking and standard violin playing on this track and at the same time too which is very cool; adds a lot to the overall sound of the song. Leroi has a small chance to shine near the end of the song as well. Overall, not a bad tune, not my favorite, but I don’t skip it.





13. Steady As We Go -

Drums - Carter

Bass - Stefan

Guitar, Vocals - Dave

Tenor, Baritone Saxophone - Leroi

Violin - Boyd

Piano, Organ - Mark

The second mellow song on the album. This one is more upbeat than Out Of My Hands though….more drums and instruments in general. The beginning is very jazzy….gives you the feeling of being in a dark, smoky jazz club with the guys sitting around drinking whiskey. At the 2:30 mark in the song, Carter kicks in with some hits on the snare and toms and the songs explodes. Someone asked me if Carter does anything fancy other than the ending in American Baby, well he does blow up for a little bit in this one. Don’t get too excited, it’s no Hello Again or Halloween jam, but he definitely throws down some quick fills and hits. Everyone on this song plays pretty much all at the same level, with equal parts.

14. Hunger For The Great Light -

Drums - Carter

Bass, Guitar - Stefan

Guitar, Vocals - Dave

Tenor Saxophone - Leroi

Violin - Boyd

Organ, Background Vocals - Butch

Moog - Mark

Can you say Beatles-ish? Wow. This song rocks! The second of the very Rock & Roll tunes on this album. The band incorporated the strings in this one as well and it simple adds to the airy feeling of this song. Stefan plays a killer electric guitar which only adds so much to the rock feeling of this song. With the driving force of Carter’s drums, the electric guitar, Butch on organ and Dave playing acoustic…it’s a great tune. The chorus is so reminiscent of a Beatles song, which one, I’m not sure…but in my opinion, it’s incredible. The Moog adds to make it sound timely and like a classic song that we all love. The song ends with Carter doing some quick fills on the snare and then a few seconds later just the strings start up and play the melody of the song.

All in all, I really like this album. Definitely not like Everyday, but by far a departure for the band. I think working with different producers is having a major effect on the sound we may see from DMB in the future. We already know it from Ballard and Everyday, and you’ll all hear it soon enough with this album. In my eyes, it’s good for a band to grow, but not stray too far away from the formula that has gotten them to where they are today. This album shows that they know how to mix it up and be true to themselves as musicians.

[esc2476]

Thanks for the excellent reviews. Very informative! +1 for you. :)

[Designer43]

Designer, what would you say (don't drop the big one) to be your favorite songs? Least favorites?

Favorites:
Out of My Hands
Stolen Away On 55th and 3rd
Everybody Wake Up
Old Dirt Hill

Least:
Smooth Rider
Steady As We Go

[shoelessjoe910]

Thanks again for the review! The last half of the review has me all fired up! It seems like the two "halves" of this album are a bit differnt in colour and texture. Kind of like how BTCS is. Can't wait for the first listen.

[julio_havok]

Designer, do you have the writing credits for each song? (Except for American Baby, that we already know that was written by Dave, Boyd and Mark)

[BustedJeff]

Thanks for the review, Designer.

[Designer43]

Designer, do you have the writing credits for each song? (Except for American Baby, that we already know that was written by Dave, Boyd and Mark)

Not for each song, but here's what I do have:

All songs written by Dave Matthews Band and Mark Batson
Copyright 2005 Colden Grey, Ltd. (ASCAP) and Bat Future Music (BMI)
except Hello Again, written by Dave Matthews Band
Copyright 2004 Colden Grey, Ltd. (ASCAP)

[Designer43]

Thanks for the review, Designer.

You're welcome!

[julio_havok]

Not for each song, but here's what I do have:

All songs written by Dave Matthews Band and Mark Batson
Copyright 2005 Colden Grey, Ltd. (ASCAP) and Bat Future Music (BMI)
except Hello Again, written by Dave Matthews Band
Copyright 2004 Colden Grey, Ltd. (ASCAP)

OK. Thanks! :)

And thanks for the review, too! Can't wait to listen to the album.

[Npys3]

great review. Where would you rank this album with all the others?

[Designer43]

OK. Thanks! :)

And thanks for the review, too! Can't wait to listen to the album.

No problem! You're all welcome! :)

[dmbosw41]

thanks for the review!

[Nitro1515]

Hey Designer could we get a little background on you as a fan so we know where you are coming from in this review? Such as what are your favorite albums, songs, and how long you have been a fan?

[Matt1838]

Awesome review man. Rep for you!

[nieds05]

thanks for the review

[Designer43]

Hey Designer could we get a little background on you as a fan so we know where you are coming from in this review? Such as what are your favorite albums, songs, and how long you have been a fan?

- Been a fan since early 1994
- First DMB show: October, 1996 (Bryce Jordan Center)
- Favorite album: Tied between BTCS and Crash
- Favorite songs: Bartender, Two Step, Recently, Get In Line, Proudest Monkey, Pig, Halloween, The Stone, #41, Drive In, Drive Out, Seek Up and so many more...
- Shows Attended: 26 (after this Summer it will be 30)
- States I've seen DMB in: New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio
- Venues: MSG(NYC), Germain Amphitheatre(Columbus), Meadows Music Center(Hartford), Starlake(Pittsburgh), Nissan Pavilion(Virginia), Continental Airlines Arena(NJ), Tweeter Center(Camden, NJ), Bryce Jordan Center(Penn State), Central Park(NYC)
**After this summer tour, I'll add SPAC and Roseland to that list.**
- I own over 250+ DMB shows from trading and B+P's
My list can be seen here: http://db.etree.org/GreyStreet43
- I've met Dave once, Boyd twice, Butch once and had Carter hand me a pair of sticks after a show.

[Matt1838]

Which previous album, if any, would you say Stand Up resembles most on a musical level?

[fujihanashi]

Designer, are you Leroi?

[guitplyr86]

very nice review. +1 for you my friend! you have me very excited about may 10th!

[Nitro1515]

- Been a fan since early 1994
- First DMB show: October, 1996 (Bryce Jordan Center)
- Favorite album: Tied between BTCS and Crash
- Favorite songs: Bartender, Two Step, Recently, Get In Line, Proudest Monkey, Pig, Halloween, The Stone, #41, Drive In, Drive Out, Seek Up and so many more...
- Shows Attended: 26 (after this Summer it will be 30)
- States I've seen DMB in: New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio
- Venues: MSG(NYC), Germain Amphitheatre(Columbus), Meadows Music Center(Hartford), Starlake(Pittsburgh), Nissan Pavilion(Virginia), Continental Airlines Arena(NJ), Tweeter Center(Camden, NJ), Bryce Jordan Center(Penn State), Central Park(NYC)
**After this summer tour, I'll add SPAC and Roseland to that list.**
- I own over 250+ DMB shows from trading and B+P's
My list can be seen here: http://db.etree.org/GreyStreet43
- I've met Dave once, Boyd twice, Butch once and had Carter hand me a pair of sticks after a show.
Wow awesome, looks like we have a lot in common in terms of albums, songs and we've both been fans for exactly the same time. Since you like this album, I'm almost certain now I will like it too. Thanks again for taking the time.

[Designer43]

Which previous album, if any, would you say Stand Up resembles most on a musical level?

That's a tough question. I honestly feel that it doesn't resemble any particular album. Certain songs resemble tracks from other albums; one song in particular is Stand Up; it personally reminds me a lot of Kit Kat Jam.

[Designer43]

Designer, are you Leroi?

Sorry, but no.

[ServeS0mebody]

great review designer......honest question though....obviously most dmb fans will eat this album up even if its not "too good"...how do you think this album will be recieved by critics whos opinion on dmb is a lot tougher than ours

[Matt1838]

Thanks for the answers to everyone's question :thumbsup

[Designer43]

Thanks for the answers to everyone's question :thumbsup

You're welcome! :)

[Noles20]

What does the 43 stand for in your screenname???

[Designer43]

What does the 43 stand for in your screenname???

Just my favorite number.

[Designer43]

great review designer......honest question though....obviously most dmb fans will eat this album up even if its not "too good"...how do you think this album will be recieved by critics whos opinion on dmb is a lot tougher than ours

The critics will probably be hard on this album if they base it upon the bands past history and musical sound. I wouldn't be surprised if they even try to mention Everyday as a reference, in fact, I would bet on it. I'm sure there will be mixed reviews, some good and some ripping it to shreds.

[Dankguitar]

what didn't you like about steady as we go? It seemed to be a favorite from the listening parties

[Designer43]

what didn't you like about steady as we go? It seemed to be a favorite from the listening parties

It's not the music I don't like, but it's too mellow for me. I still think it's a nice song though, just not one of my favorites.

Who knows? Maybe it'll grow on me.

[Dankguitar]

do you think any of these songs are good enough to become classics. thanks for the answers

[Sniper15]

How were the lyrics and what was the subject matter of each song?

[Designer43]

How were the lyrics and what was the subject matter of each song?

The lyrics are solid, but I'm not going to go into detail about each song, sorry. You've only got a little over a week until you can hear them.

[Sniper15]

Good to hear.

[TobiasClown]

do you think any of these songs are good enough to become classics. thanks for the answers


yea i will ask the same question. awesome reviews man!

[Designer43]

do you think any of these songs are good enough to become classics. thanks for the answers

Definitely. Not sure exactly which ones, but there are some possibilities. Maybe Everybody Wake Up or Louisiana Bayou.

[2stepp41]

i thought dave played some piano in steady as we go

[Sniper15]

^He does.

[nieds05]

thanks again,
I am so pumped for this album, 9 more days!!

[2stepp41]

I also wonder how they are gonna perform hunger for the great light out on the road being that stefan played the electric and bass and dave played acoustic

[Designer43]

i thought dave played some piano in steady as we go

Not according to the official information I was provied with the CD.

[Matt1838]

I also wonder how they are gonna perform hunger for the great light out on the road being that stefan played the electric and bass and dave played acoustic

Good question :confused

[2stepp41]

thanks designer

[KevinTH5]

designer owns!

[JiMiThiNG277]

designer owns!


oh mighty heavenly Designer...will your secret of how the album was received ever be unleased to us poor peasants!?

[cottlerocket]

I also need to express how I feel this song doesn’t really fit on this album. It may fit with the entire theme, but the recording and style of Hello Again is very true to DMB’s original format. With this album being a major departure for the band, this track doesn’t really fit on the album for me. Anyone else feel the same way from hearing the clip? Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great song, but after you hear the rest of the songs, there’s just something about it….



just from hearing the clip i have to completely agree w/ you about this track. it has the same feel as the joyride clip. great review. i'm even more excited now.

[cottlerocket]

I also wonder how they are gonna perform hunger for the great light out on the road being that stefan played the electric and bass and dave played acoustic

special guests maybe? or maybe they'll just eliminate one of the instruments...acoustic, electric, but i doubt the bass will be left out.

[Designer43]

just from hearing the clip i have to completely agree w/ you about this track. it has the same feel as the joyride clip. great review. i'm even more excited now.

Cool. I'm glad you agree.

Thanks for the compliment about the review. :thumbsup

[JiMiThiNG277]

Cool. I'm glad you agree.

Thanks for the compliment about the review. :thumbsup


Designer, first I would like to say that your review is great and once again has made me even MORE pumped for this thing to come out!

But on to the question!

If you had to pick one song from this album that would represent what this album is all about, which song would you choose? And why do you feel that way?

[Nitro1515]

Designer got another question for you if you don't mind...where would you rank American Baby in terms of the other songs, are most songs better than it?

[dmbdmbdmbdmb]

Designer, do you like peach soda?

Thanks for taking the time to write the reviews too.

[The Lado]

I got a question too since I cant wait for the answer...How much woodchuck could a woodchuck chug, if a woodchuck could chug woodchuck?




Thanks for the review.

[MikeGaddis]

Thanks for the review. Maybe I missed this somewhere else, but I thought Boyd was supposed to be lead vocals on one track? Was this cut, or is this a bonus track on the Warehouse CD? Anyone know?

[goochylittlepig]

Here's the rest for you all to enjoy! Thanks for all of the compliments. I was completely honest and hopefully you'll feel similar once you hear it.



dude, i gotta be honest, i thought you were a troll or something at first, but i was obviously wrong. +1 rep for you, these reviews are excellent. between them and the songs last night, i don't know what im gonna do till this album comes out (oh yeah, finals....)
one thing tho, you said you don't have muchto say about fonzie cuz he's not that evident or something. have you turned up the songs, and do you have a sub? even in my 12 year old car (i prefer to think of it as Trax-era, not old) i can hear fonzie. he's all over this album. seriously, follow mark's advice and play it LOUD! :-D the best part of stand up last night was the first 10 seconds of bass.... :24

[goochylittlepig]

just from hearing the clip i have to completely agree w/ you about this track. it has the same feel as the joyride clip. great review. i'm even more excited now.
yeah, i feel that way too. but then i heard lb and i thought maybe it does go in there. joy ride might be a stretch tho. oh well, it's like having your job interview interrupted by winning a new car. whatre ya gonna do...

[stratocoustic05]

damn, i wish i could be Designer43 so my rep points could be skyrocketing each hour.

dammmmmn

[guitplyr86]

thanks for the follow up too designer. i'm so psyched to get this CD, i'll be checkin the mail starting sat. as often as i check warehouse right now for my seats.

[Dagwin]

Most other reviews I've read regarding 'Hunger For The Great Light' don't shed such a revering light on the song as yours does. Can you explain why others might have felt that way? Is it just that it doesn't immediately scream "DMB" upon first listen?

[Orpheus]

All in all, I really like this album. Definitely not like Everyday, but by far a departure for the band. I think working with different producers is having a major effect on the sound we may see from DMB in the future. We already know it from Ballard and Everyday, and you’ll all hear it soon enough with this album. In my eyes, it’s good for a band to grow, but not stray too far away from the formula that has gotten them to where they are today. This album shows that they know how to mix it up and be true to themselves as musicians.


:thumbsup I don't know how much is them and how much is their management, but the people behind DMB are brilliant. This band's going to build a huge legacy before they're through.

[BeaufordBuddy]

Carter mixes this one up with some straight snare hits and also hits on the rim while resting the stick on his snare(I forget what that’s called, but he’s not doing a rim shot).


Actually, that is what's it called. Do us a favor and leave the drum talk to someone who knows what they're talking about.

[2StepintoCrash]

Thanks for the great reveiw!! Definitely sounds liek we will all be quite happy with it! Sorry if it's already been asked, but are there any jams in between songs?

[Orpheus]

Actually, that is what's it called. Do us a favor and leave the drum talk to someone who knows what they're talking about.

:rolleyes Take it down a notch, sport. This person was nice enough to write a review. Not everyone's a professional musician.

[Designer43]

Actually, that is what's it called. Do us a favor and leave the drum talk to someone who knows what they're talking about.

I am actually a drummer, been playing for over 10 years, but I've never been into the technical terminology.

Take that advice from Orpheus and be grateful that I took the time to type a review up and share it with you.

[aggiekjw]

Actually, that is what's it called. Do us a favor and leave the drum talk to someone who knows what they're talking about.

what a stupid fucking post.. ass :mad

thank you designer.. you're the man :bounce :bounce :thumbsup :thumbsup

[beastfrmthfares]

Actually, that is what's it called. Do us a favor and leave the drum talk to someone who knows what they're talking about.

Actually, you're wrong, so take it down a notch man. If the stick is resting on the drum head and clicking on the rim, ala Rhyme and Reason, then its called a Rim Click. Rimshots are when you hit the rim and snare directly at the same time, making that really poppy crack noise, which Carter typically does on beats two and four like most rock musicians, which is why his sticks splinter like mad if you watch the live DVDs.

Thanks again for the great review Designer

[Designer43]

Designer got another question for you if you don't mind...where would you rank American Baby in terms of the other songs, are most songs better than it?

In my honest opinion, it's one of the best tracks on the album; I would never skip it while listening to the album. I would rank it in the Top 5 songs on the entire album.

[Designer43]

Designer, do you like peach soda?

Thanks for taking the time to write the reviews too.

:lol :lol

I've never actually had peach soda, so I couldn't tell you. You're welcome for the review.

[aggiekjw]

In my honest opinion, it's one of the best tracks on the album; I would never skip it while listening to the album. I would rank it in the Top 5 songs on the entire album.


:confused :mad :shrug :( :freak :rolleyes :violent

[Designer43]

dude, i gotta be honest, i thought you were a troll or something at first, but i was obviously wrong. +1 rep for you, these reviews are excellent. between them and the songs last night, i don't know what im gonna do till this album comes out (oh yeah, finals....)
one thing tho, you said you don't have muchto say about fonzie cuz he's not that evident or something. have you turned up the songs, and do you have a sub? even in my 12 year old car (i prefer to think of it as Trax-era, not old) i can hear fonzie. he's all over this album. seriously, follow mark's advice and play it LOUD! :-D the best part of stand up last night was the first 10 seconds of bass.... :24

Thanks man! :thumbsup

I'll try what you suggested when I'm in my car on my way home tonight. Stand Up, the track, is definitely bass heavy, but it's mostly from Carter's kick pedal.

[robertjohnsmith]

Actually, that is what's it called. Do us a favor and leave the drum talk to someone who knows what they're talking about.

Actually, you're wrong, so take it down a notch man. If the stick is resting on the drum head and clicking on the rim, ala Rhyme and Reason, then its called a Rim Click. Rimshots are when you hit the rim and snare directly at the same time, making that really poppy crack noise, which Carter typically does on beats two and four like most rock musicians, which is why his sticks splinter like mad if you watch the live DVDs.

Thanks again for the great review Designer

oh snap! you got told!
sweet review, designer. thanks a million.
rjs

[Designer43]

:confused :mad :shrug :( :freak :rolleyes :violent

Interesting. I take it you don't like American Baby?

[shoelessjoe910]

oh snap! you got told!
sweet review, designer. thanks a million.
rjs
This post was perfect with your Oprah avatar!

[joepsu0985]

It's not the music I don't like, but it's too mellow for me. I still think it's a nice song though, just not one of my favorites.

Who knows? Maybe it'll grow on me.


I think we heard a shitty part of the song....I want to hear the full version.....

[2StepintoCrash]

Man this review just fueled my hunger for this album even more. 8 days is going to be tough. One last question Designer....is Steady As We Go as much of a potential DMB classic like it was mentioned during the listening party reviews?
Thanks again!

[Dagwin]

Actually, you're wrong, so take it down a notch man. If the stick is resting on the drum head and clicking on the rim, ala Rhyme and Reason, then its called a Rim Click. Rimshots are when you hit the rim and snare directly at the same time, making that really poppy crack noise, which Carter typically does on beats two and four like most rock musicians, which is why his sticks splinter like mad if you watch the live DVDs.

Thanks again for the great review Designer

Ya beat me to it!

Yeah, that guy's a moron. :thumbsdow

[CarterBoydBear]

For as much as this album doesn't have "guests," Mark sure seems to be on alot.

good call

[darbini]

Ya beat me to it!

Yeah, that guy's a moron. :thumbsdow


beat ya to it, it was an hour and 15 minutes ago!!!! hahaha

[Designer43]

Man this review just fueled my hunger for this album even more. 8 days is going to be tough. One last question Designer....is Steady As We Go as much of a potential DMB classic like it was mentioned during the listening party reviews?
Thanks again!

Like I previously said, a lot of the songs have the potential to be DMB classics, but I'm not really that impressed with Steady As We Go at the moment. It's not a bad song, just not one I love.

It's going to be up to each person as to what songs really are DMB classics; although I'm sure many people will all like certain tracks as it always happens. :)

[2StepintoCrash]

Gotcha...thanks for your time!


Like I previously said, a lot of the songs have the potential to be DMB classics, but I'm not really that impressed with Steady As We Go at the moment. It's not a bad song, just not one I love.

It's going to be up to each person as to what songs really are DMB classics; although I'm sure many people will all like certain tracks as it always happens. :)

[Kyle#41_7985]

Much love to you designer. You're a-ok in my book.

[Designer43]

Much love to you designer. You're a-ok in my book.

Thanks man! :thumbsup

[aggiekjw]

Interesting. I take it you don't like American Baby?

hmm... it's o.k.. good idea and lyrics.. just not very complex.. or as it sounds to me now.. from intro to outro i bet it's better... and you're the only one that has heard that.. at the same time.. i'm looking forward to other tracks more..

[Designer43]

hmm... it's o.k.. good idea and lyrics.. just not very complex.. or as it sounds to me now.. from intro to outro i bet it's better... and you're the only one that has heard that.. at the same time.. i'm looking forward to other tracks more..

I also take it that you haven't heard it on the radio yet? I thought most markets had it by now...hmmm. Well, you only have another week to wait.

[gpvt68]

Actually, that is what's it called. Do us a favor and leave the drum talk to someone who knows what they're talking about.

shut up asshole, thanks

[Designer43]

If you had to pick one song from this album that would represent what this album is all about, which song would you choose? And why do you feel that way?

I have to think about this one a bit before I respond. I'll really think about your question when I listen to it later.


Oh, and a huge "Thank you" to everyone who gave me rep points! :thumbsup :thumbsup

[The Onion]

Thanks, designer43.

[GruvnDMBRiddims]

Designer--from a drummer to a drummer, I'm thankful for your review and (being a drummer and not carrying on about Carter) appreciate the fact that you gave each member of the band the same/equal recognition when it came to your short reviews of each song.
Something told me the whole time this album was gonna be something that we are not accustomed to hearing at all and would be a completely new step in a new direction. I think this is a intelligent move and positive direction for the band (even though I haven't heard the cd, but judging from the clips and reviews). These songs are gonna grow and evolve live into great pieces of music. I'm also keeping my fingers crossed and hope we are priveledged enough in the future (summer?) to hear the finished and undeveloped tunes that didn't make the cut.... or be developed/finished for the next album. Just from what I've heard so far, I think Mark has done a great job bringing out true musicianship and creativity from each of the members in the band.
Alls I gots to say is: I'm motivated, fueled, pumped, etc... for next Tuesday and this summer's tour

[Burnett]

where do you got this album from? :rolleyes

btw.. thanks for the review. :thumbsup

[Designer43]

where do you got this album from? :rolleyes

btw.. thanks for the review. :thumbsup

I got it from DMB's publicist. You can find out all of the details here if you're really interested:

http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=130017

[somedevil22]

"A piano and Dave is all that is featured at the beginning of Steady As We Go. And it's Dave playing that piano. The entire band eventually joins in on the song that as potential to be a DMB classic."

This is what Joe wrote in the article after Matt went to the listening party. I wonder what happened maybe the people at the listening party just made an assumption after hearing the song.

[BeaufordBuddy]

Actually, you're wrong, so take it down a notch man. If the stick is resting on the drum head and clicking on the rim, ala Rhyme and Reason, then its called a Rim Click. Rimshots are when you hit the rim and snare directly at the same time, making that really poppy crack noise, which Carter typically does on beats two and four like most rock musicians, which is why his sticks splinter like mad if you watch the live DVDs.

Thanks again for the great review Designer

A rimshot is whenever you hit the rim of the snare, whether it be while hitting the snare at the same time or while resting the stick. Rim click? I've never heard that term and I can probably predict that a majority of people on any given drum message board haven't either. Rim tap? Yes, but rim click no.

[BeaufordBuddy]

oh snap! you got told!
sweet review, designer. thanks a million.
rjs


What are you, in junior high?

Do your research before you defend someone.

[BeaufordBuddy]

what a stupid fucking post.. ass :mad

thank you designer.. you're the man :bounce :bounce :thumbsup :thumbsup


Just giving back what Ants has given to so many. ;)

[numbr41]

A rimshot is whenever you hit the rim of the snare, whether it be while hitting the snare at the same time or while resting the stick. Rim click? I've never heard that term and I can probably predict that a majority of people on any given drum message board haven't either. Rim tap? Yes, but rim click no.

As a formally educated percussionist, a rim shot is when both the head of the drum and then rim are struck at the same time. This produces a loud pop.

A rim click would typically be the term used when the rim is being played instead of the drum.

I've never heard anyone use the term rim tap before.

A cross stick is the term for a a click made when the stick is resting flat against the head, lifted and placed back down on the head.

[Designer43]

As a formally educated percussionist, a rim shot is when both the head of the drum and then rim are struck at the same time. This produces a loud pop.

Jimmy Chamberlain is one of the kings of rim shots.

[LLeopardGGecko]

I've never heard the term 'rim tap'. I always call it 'rim click'.

[thing4377]

Ummm, I like drums.





Thanks for the review Designer! You ROCK!! :D

[Noles20]

As a formally educated percussionist, a rim shot is when both the head of the drum and then rim are struck at the same time. This produces a loud pop.

A rim click would typically be the term used when the rim is being played instead of the drum.

I've never heard anyone use the term rim tap before.

A cross stick is the term for a a click made when the stick is resting flat against the head, lifted and placed back down on the head.

So what's a rim job??? ;)

[JonahB41]

So what's a rim job??? ;)

:lol

[darbini]

So what's a rim job??? ;)


hahaha I was going to do the same thing but my computer froze when I tried to submit it

[Noles20]

hahaha I was going to do the same thing but my computer froze when I tried to submit it

I knew that others had to be thinking it. It was a great set-up.

[darbini]

I knew that others had to be thinking it. It was a great set-up.


It was just begging for it. I actually wrote in the Quick Reply box but wanted to add a smiley or devil so I hit the Post Reply button instead. Damn thing froze up :( A little control+Alt+Enter and I'm back to square one! Have to head back to the rim job quote!!!

[JonahB41]

"thats where you put your legs behind your head and have somebody like your ass ..."
"... oh." :lol

[Noles20]

"thats where you put your legs behind your head and have somebody like your ass ..."
"... oh." :lol

I like your sig.

[JonahB41]

I like your sig.

great minds
-j

[titleist017]

Thanks for the review, that had to take a while man!! One question.....

is Stand Up better than Everyday? I know it's different but is it better???

Thanks again!

[Snapple2788]

Thanks for the review, that had to take a while man!! One question.....

is Stand Up better than Everyday? I know it's different but is it better???

Thanks again!
:ugh :lol

[shoelessjoe910]

Jimmy Chamberlain is one of the kings of rim shots.
Definately! One of the best drummers period. He and Carter are AMAZING!!! But for me, no one takes the cake like Keith Moon does. He is an animal on the skins...or was shall I say.

[Captian Raven]

9. Hello Again -

Drums - Carter

Bass - Stefan

Guitar, Vocals - Dave

Tenor Saxophone - Leroi

Violin - Boyd

Organ - Butch

Just like it was played during the Summer tour of 2004. I also need to express how I feel this song doesn’t really fit on this album. It may fit with the entire theme, but the recording and style of Hello Again is very true to DMB’s original format. With this album being a major departure for the band, this track doesn’t really fit on the album for me. Anyone else feel the same way from hearing the clip? Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great song, but after you hear the rest of the songs, there’s just something about it….




are u sure roi plays tenor he played bari live. If it is the tenor how does that sound

[mynameisdon]

anyone think/hope that carter's sound (drum machine sound) from some of the clips (LB-die trying) the clips is a fake to prevent the actual (natural sounding drums) from being leaked? Hopeful thinking from one drummer's opinion...

apart from that, i think the album will be great

[goochylittlepig]

anyone think/hope that carter's sound (drum machine sound) from some of the clips (LB-die trying) the clips is a fake to prevent the actual (natural sounding drums) from being leaked? Hopeful thinking from one drummer's opinion...

apart from that, i think the album will be great
lmao, no.

[AlaskaFox]

Good review. What's most interesting about it is the lack of a single guest on the album (apart from some guy who does additional percussion). When we first heard the new songs way back last year, we all were talking about what guests we'd like to see. We had high hopes for Santana, Anastasio, Reynolds, etc., but not one of them appears on the album. Isn't it kind of strange? But also refreshing that this is a "pure" DMB album, with the only outside influence being Batson.

[goochylittlepig]

Good review. What's most interesting about it is the lack of a single guest on the album (apart from some guy who does additional percussion). When we first heard the new songs way back last year, we all were talking about what guests we'd like to see. We had high hopes for Santana, Anastasio, Reynolds, etc., but not one of them appears on the album. Isn't it kind of strange? But also refreshing that this is a "pure" DMB album, with the only outside influence being Batson.
yeah it is. i think tim/bela/satana might be good on a lillywhite-produced, older dmb sounding album, but i just dont think it'd fit with the way the band is heading. they want to do their own thing, and they're able to.

that being said, batson is kinda like the guest :rolleyes
i kind of wish they wouldve had butch or carter do the parts mark and the "other guy" did. just to keep it inside the band.

[Designer43]

One question.....

is Stand Up better than Everyday?

Yes.

[Designer43]

are u sure roi plays tenor he played bari live. If it is the tenor how does that sound

According to the official information I was provided with the CD, he plays the Tenor...and it sounds good to be honest.

[AlaskaFox]

Yes.

Thank God!

[bustedstuff77]

After listening to the album a bit on VH1 I'd have to say that I'm dissapointed with it, hopefully it will grow on me. I'm not going to say it sucks cause it will take some time to really let them sink in, but on first listen I'd have to say that the only songs that really stick out for me are "You Might Die Trying" and "Stolen Away on 55th & 3rd". I think the album is overproduced and "Hello Again" my favorite of the new songs, it just sounds terrible. I don't see these songs being that great on tour, but hopefully I'm wrong. "Hunger For The Great Light" totally has Stephan's influence, but just sounds weird hearing DMB as an alternative grunge rock band with keyboards.

[bustedstuff77]

Yes.
I'm gonna have to go with no

[dmbslave]

After listening to the album a bit on VH1 I'd have to say that I'm dissapointed with it, hopefully it will grow on me. I'm not going to say it sucks cause it will take some time to really let them sink in, but on first listen I'd have to say that the only songs that really stick out for me are "You Might Die Trying" and "Stolen Away on 55th & 3rd". I think the album is overproduced and "Hello Again" my favorite of the new songs, it just sounds terrible. I don't see these songs being that great on tour, but hopefully I'm wrong. "Hunger For The Great Light" totally has Stephan's influence, but just sounds weird hearing DMB as an alternative grunge rock band with keyboards.

:thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow
I'm have to agree. I'm extremely disapointed in the album. It's very different but not in the way that I was hoping. There are way too many background vocals and daves voice sounds synthosized half the time. It just sounds like they recorded over his voice, with his voice, over and over again. For example like on Stand Up, Everybody Wake Up and Steady As We Go. It's very overproduced and in some of the songs, like the beginning to Louisiana Bayou, very hip-hop sounding. The songs are short and I don't think much can come of them live. And I pretty much left Hello Again for the end because I thought that would be the best one. Turns out, it's terrible.

However after saying all that, there are a few songs I think are ok. "Stolen Away..", "Out of My Hands" and possibly "Old Dirt Hill". But really only part of "Old Dirt Hill" is good. I like the beat and some of the lyrics to the song...I kinda like the meaning behind it but the part I don't like are the extra vocals - not to mention the "bring that beat back"?? what the hell does that part need to be in there for? Still just overall disapointment. :lorraine

[Exodus]

Ok, for better or worse on this site, I am going to give my opinion. Alot of you will not like what I have to say, some might agree, but I needed to say something.

After listening to the album all day long, giving it every chance I could, I have come to the conclusion that I do not like it. But hear me out, please.

Where is the energy? Just about every song is laid back. I can put on any other album and get pumped up just by listening to it. Stand Up is too slow, not like the DMB we know. I have all these thoughts running through my head it is hard to put them to words here.

As for the comparision to Everyday, well, I think that album got trashed on for several reason. We all loved the lillywhite sessions, they were my favorite. Much more than Everyday. When DMB basically scrapped it, we were pissed. We wanted the lillywhites. So when Everyday came out we were upset that it was the replacement for the lillywhite stuff. So we all didnt give it the fair review it deserved. I know there are songs on it that arent that great, but for the most part it was a decent album, much more like DMB than Stand Up is.

For those reasons above, I am going to go out on a limb and say that Stand Up ranks lower than Everyday to me. I know I will get flamed for that statement, but my reasons for the statement are above. I am still giving this album a chance. I will have to let it grow on me, if possible.

Stand Up just seems too slow, no real melody, not upbeat. I just cant get pumped up.

Now, my statement are comparisions to the older stuff. If this album was a first album of DMB, I think I possibly might like it. But comparing it to the older stuff, it was a hit and miss.

I totally support the band trying new directions and experiment. Which is what joyride and hello again, and those songs did, they made a good impression on most of us, most of us liked it. Why did they turn from that direction. Those songs were more of the DMB we like.

Anyway, im rambling. I will wait to hear these songs live before I say anymore.

Just my opinion (for now). Hope some of you have gotten into it.

Dave


****Edit
There are some songs that I kind of like, such as stolen away, smooth rider, and out of my hands, but they still dont live up to what we expect. I think we all have an incredibly high expectation of DMB, that a possibly good album just wont do it.

[wishyouwerehere]

I don't know if any of you have noticed, but Stolen Away, and Hunger are awesome songs. AWESOME.

[ucbedge]

I have to agree with the previous poster as well. Yeah, I'm sure the DMB faithful will reduce my Rep Points to the brink of negativity for doing so <gasp>, but thats a risk I'm willing to take.

Listen, I realize that the band cant produce "Three Step" or "Ants Crawling," because that would be "same-ol, same-ol" as many of you have rightfully pointed out. However, there is also no need (in my mind, at least) for them to completely redefine their music either.

To me, "Stand Up" is a redefinition of their sound, not a refinement. They have transitioned from a band that produces meandering, multi-tonal melodic tunes to a band that produces short, radio-friendly, heavily-pop-influenced songs that have no real depth to them. Example: "Two Step" can be played in concert for 20 mins easy (and rightfully so) because of its great beat structure and the fact that the band keeps building on a simple chord structure. However, I have a hard time believing the band could pull off the same feet with "Out of My Hands" or something...there just isnt much complexity there. In fact, Carter sounds downright useless in most of the tracks.

I dunno...somewhere between Everyday and Stand Up, this band has lost its "Dave Matthew"-ness. Compare this to a band such as U2 (and I'm not even a U2 fan!!!): they have been on the scene for more than 20 years, churning out hits. And if you listen to their songs, their "sound" is not that different from 1985. "Vertigo" is still unmistakeably U2...whereas if you had somebody listen to "American Baby" or something, I doubt they'd be able to identify it as DMB right away (a few other bands come to mind though).

What happened to DMB????

(Let the flaming begin.)

[wishyouwerehere]

Keep in mind a studio album isn't going to be EVERYONE'S perception of the band, the album or a song in general. I mean its unfair to say that this is non-dmb when we have yet to let the songs grow into themselves (except perhaps, Hello Again). So before you judge, how about a summer tour to let it brew..huh?

[ryguy178]

I have to agree with the previous poster as well. Yeah, I'm sure the DMB faithful will reduce my Rep Points to the brink of negativity for doing so <gasp>, but thats a risk I'm willing to take.

Listen, I realize that the band cant produce "Three Step" or "Ants Crawling," because that would be "same-ol, same-ol" as many of you have rightfully pointed out. However, there is also no need (in my mind, at least) for them to completely redefine their music either.

To me, "Stand Up" is a redefinition of their sound, not a refinement. They have transitioned from a band that produces meandering, multi-tonal melodic tunes to a band that produces short, radio-friendly, heavily-pop-influenced songs that have no real depth to them. Example: "Two Step" can be played in concert for 20 mins easy (and rightfully so) because of its great beat structure and the fact that the band keeps building on a simple chord structure. However, I have a hard time believing the band could pull off the same feet with "Out of My Hands" or something...there just isnt much complexity there. In fact, Carter sounds downright useless in most of the tracks.

I dunno...somewhere between Everyday and Stand Up, this band has lost its "Dave Matthew"-ness. Compare this to a band such as U2 (and I'm not even a U2 fan!!!): they have been on the scene for more than 20 years, churning out hits. And if you listen to their songs, their "sound" is not that different from 1985. "Vertigo" is still unmistakeably U2...whereas if you had somebody listen to "American Baby" or something, I doubt they'd be able to identify it as DMB right away (a few other bands come to mind though).

What happened to DMB????

(Let the flaming begin.)

Nice first post.

Registered since Sept 04 huh? Should have joined the fun earlier :thumbsup

"Three Step" and "Ants Crawling" was clever by the way.

[ucbedge]

Keep in mind a studio album isn't going to be EVERYONE'S perception of the band, the album or a song in general. I mean its unfair to say that this is non-dmb when we have yet to let the songs grow into themselves (except perhaps, Hello Again). So before you judge, how about a summer tour to let it brew..huh?

Deal. I really really really want to like the new album (I really do), so I havent written it off just yet. In fact, I'm keeping my numerous tickets to the summer concert series, just to prove that I'm keeping my mind open.

My first impressions are not good though. It's just like how girls know within the first 5 mins of meeting a guy whether theyre going to sleep with them or not. Either that inexplicable feeling is there, or it's not. Same thing with this album.

[wishyouwerehere]

I see what you mean as well. I would admit that it does seem a little more "produced" but I think that it's just natural to explore all musical phases. Perhaps to our experienced ears it seems "overly produced" since the older stuff was more raw and untrained. I'm trying to keep positive about it because when I think about the studio Halloween, I realize that the studio is a minimum standard for the song. Think how amazing Hunger will be! That's some hardcore lyrics and imagine it live! I'll admit that I'm not too happy with the whole "bring that beat back" it's a little standoffish, yet it fits.

I know we're all worried like its our first day of high school, but have faith, and listen closely and you'll still find the DMB you fell in love with. Remember this album was going in a new direction anyways, and I don't think anyone can say if it's a fluke or not (not that you were sayin that). Time. That's all it needs.

[chalktwo]

what a stupid fucking post.. ass :mad

thank you designer.. you're the man :bounce :bounce :thumbsup :thumbsup
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[elcubano]

I don't dislike it. I don't.

That said, it doesn't make me tingle like hearing the lillywhites did. The excitement is not there. It's like a jack johnson sort of feel. I respect it, but can't fall head over heels for it.

I, like many here, reserve my final judgement for when I see them live in June. But they all feel slightly overproduced, and I don't know how that's going to translate into the live quality of DMB.

Also - which songs are going to be the jams? Is DMB no longer going to Jam? None of these seem to lend themselves to that, although it is far to early to say they never will.

Its basically about what I expected.

EDIT: I love Jack Johnson, by the way - It's just not what I like from the Dave Matthews Band.

I also want to say that I can see a sweet jam on the beginning of Everybody Wake Up.

[jdmbellen]

i have not listened to the entire album, i will say that first. but...i am not impressed. maybe i just wanted more, or too much, but i don't think the lyrics are anything great or inspirational. i would say it is over produced. so far my favorite song is out of my hands...besides hello again. it's just a bummer the album couldn't please more fans.

[killymagee2000]

So I finally had a chance to listen to the entire album. I gotta say that I really liked it, but this is not a DMB album. In my opinion, its got much more of a Radiohead feel to it, with a touch of maybe Coldplay, especially songs such as Out of My Hands and Steady As We Go. Hunger For The Great Light... if I heard that song without knowing it was DMB... I never, in a million years, would have guessed that it would be a song by them. But there are some kick ass songs. LB especially.

[AlaskaFox]

'll give a full review when I've listened a few times. But I'll give some ratings for my first listen.

NOTE: These are from my first listen. When I first heard DMB way back when I didn't like them at all. Opinions change, and after a few listens I'll have a better (and different) opinion.

01. Dreamgirl - 9/10 - Just as good as I the clip led me to believe
02. Old Dirt Hill (Bring That Beat Back) - 9/10 - Great intro and outro. The clip was the middle of the song.
03. Stand Up (For It) - 8/10 - a bit repeditive, but still good. I could dance along to this one
04. AB Intro - 7/10 - from the clip everyone loved it, but it's ruined by the gunfire
05. American Baby - 7/10 - sounds much better in context
06. Smooth Rider - 7/10 - so that's why it's called "Smooth Rider". Not too impressive
07. Everybody Wake Up (Our Finest Hour Arrives)- 10/10 - Great intro, it's just like the Kronos Quartet were there in the studio. Probably my favourite song on the album after the first listen.
08. Out of My Hands - 6/10 - Strangely enough, the clip is not the start of the song. There's a good three minutes before the clip. This song is really really really mellow, and only really gets going around the two minute mark. In fact it never really gets going. And I thought it was gonna be so much more. My first real disappointment, especially since it was my favourite clip.
09. Hello Again - 8/10 - Good song. The bridge is especially impressive. Not that different from the live version overall. It ends too suddenly though
10. Louisiana Bayou - 8/10 - Some of the lyrics are a bit hard to understand. But it's a really funky song. Doesn't sound as overproduced as the clip led me to believe. The jam at the end could do with more sax though.
11. Stolen Away on 55th and 3rd - 9/10 - Exactly like the clip. Which is not a bad thing. Impressive.
12. You Might Die Trying - 9/10 - Great opening line "To change the world it only takes one step". Nice edgy guitar. Looking forward to hearing this one live.
13. Steady As We Go - 8/10 - Advance previews really had me looking forward to this one. It's as slow as Out of My Hands, but it's much better. The end reminds me of some early Motown stuff, that's never bad. Is likely to fill the E1 spot come Summer.
14. Hunger For The Great Light - 8/10 - The last song. The last step in my latest DMB adventure. A varied DMB adventure. And this song shows that no better than any other. A very Rock & Roll song. Not what I expected from DMB, but I'm not disappointed. Stefan, you should really write more songs.

And that's the end of my first listen. Overall I'm impressed. And look forward to listening again in the morning.

[ryguy178]

'll give a full review when I've listened a few times. But I'll give some ratings for my first listen.

NOTE: These are from my first listen. When I first heard DMB way back when I didn't like them at all. Opinions change, and after a few listens I'll have a better (and different) opinion.



I'm glad you enjoyed most of it after your first listen, but your right, all of our opinions will change after many listens.

I find it interesting that you disliked Out of My hands the most. I think that is the most redeeming song on the album. So much lyrical prowess and emotion than any of the other songs really, I felt like it was the only song I "got" Dave in. I also think that the intro to Wake Up makes it worthy of a 10/10. :thumbsup

[onemoredrink41]

dave's voice is really raspy! I dunno what to think about this cd.... I can normally tell right away if I really like a song or two, but this is going to have to really grow on me! Dream girl, american baby, out my hands... 3 favs! yes american baby haha.

[AlaskaFox]

I'm glad you enjoyed most of it after your first listen, but your right, all of our opinions will change after many listens.

I find it interesting that you disliked Out of My hands the most. I think that is the most redeeming song on the album. So much lyrical prowess and emotion than any of the other songs really, I felt like it was the only song I "got" Dave in. I also think that the intro to Wake Up makes it worthy of a 10/10. :thumbsup

I loved Out of My Hands when I heard the clips, but alas that love is gone. Maybe I need to listen to it a few more times though. It just does nothing for me (a bit like most of Devils & Dust).

[Play_Like_Fonz]

Stand Up sounds straight from Robert Randolph and the Family Band.

[dmbosw41]

Hello Again daves voice at one point in the song sounds like Scott Weiland from STP Core album.

[jdmbellen]

I loved Out of My Hands when I heard the clips, but alas that love is gone. Maybe I need to listen to it a few more times though. It just does nothing for me (a bit like most of Devils & Dust).


really? i find that really interesting...because i loved it when i heard the clip, and now that i am hearing the entire song, it makes me love it even more, a lot more...more emotion than most of the other songs, i don't know, i just really like that one :)

[AlaskaFox]

really? i find that really interesting...because i loved it when i heard the clip, and now that i am hearing the entire song, it makes me love it even more, a lot more...more emotion than most of the other songs, i don't know, i just really like that one :)

Yeah, I just expected it to be different. I find it drags too much.

[Fiverz]

Dave's voice on the album IS raspy but come on folks, it's been raspy live too for the last few years (i.e, compare a live OSW from 93 to one from 03-05). Not a bad or a good thing in my eyes ... just different.

[TurboPGT]

Stand Up kicks ass

[Designer43]

Stand Up kicks ass

I agree. :thumbsup

[lilc]

this album is def. different in concerns of sound...i like the "hip-hoppish" beat that dmb follows on some tracks...

[AlaskaFox]

After listening to it a few times I'm getting the feeling this is a 7.5/10 album, and won't be in my Top 20 Album List come the end of the year. Some of the songs are excellent, some good, but mostly average. But then again I hated Crash at first.