Stand Up - You Might Die Trying Discussion

[Nitro1515]

Its up...

[shoelessjoe910]

Sweet, thanks!

[road_designer]

what are they calling it?

[Nitro1515]

Wow that is badass

[Nitro1515]

what are they calling it?just DT

[killymagee2000]

Sounds kinda '80s.

[road_designer]

just DT
thanks.

[carlosz1021]

sounds pretty good

[bilpushn]

Sounds really cool, has a cool vibe to it. Boyd sounds awesome.

[ltemp56]

I dig it! :bounce :multi :hump

[markbaggs]

I'm guessing there are vocals on this track?

[DanDMBFan]

WOW! That is incredible. Very un-DMB like but the beat is absolutely great.
I wonder if this is the beginning of the song, or the tail end. It sounds like its the beginning since it starts simple with the drum beat, then the violin kicks in and later the sax. I think this is my favorite clip so far.

[dmbfan4ever]

first 2 seconds scared me...but wow....Boyd tears it up and i am lovin Leroi...anxious to see how Dave will sing over this....I really like this clip a lot....it could really evolve into an unbelievable jam....MAY 10th can't come soon enough!

[Nitro1515]

WOW! That is incredible. Very un-DMB like but the beat is absolutely great.
I wonder if this is the beginning of the song, or the tail end. It sounds like its the beginning since it starts simple with the drum beat, then the violin kicks in and later the sax. I think this is my favorite clip so far.
Its the end of the song

[2StepintoCrash]

solid. rock. tune.

[wiebrod]

I'm assuming there are vocals on this also, but I think this track sounds great also. There really hasn't been any I've been disappointed in so far, but I think Boyd sounds great on this one. Also, Roi at the end was sounding great also. Good clip

[AlaskaFox]

Thanks. A nice clip, can't wait to hear the vocals for it.

[joepsu0985]

What the fuck is this....I never heard anything like it..I dont know whether to like it or make fun of it...This could go straight to the clubs for sure...haha...

For some reason I can see Dave busting a free style on here...

[maveric998]

Judging by these clips, DMB has reinvented themselves ten times over on each new song. That said, I can't complain, it has a good sound. I like boyds riff at the beginning and then LeRoi jumping in at the end of the clip - very cool.

[darbini]

ummmm......

[TurboPGT]

first 2 seconds scared me...

:ugh why? are you impervious to other styles of music?


or did you expect dave to bust out a rap?

[shoelessjoe910]

I like Carter's beats and stuff, but the effects are a bit much for me...but when Boyd comes in those effects are great. I like this clip. I have to say, this is the first time I was scared by these clips though!

[DMB1541]

Man, another clip naking me excited for this cd. I can't wait to hear this one live and having Carter go nuts during this part. I can just see him beating the crap out of his drum set on this one. Come on May 10th...

[joepsu0985]

Wow..im really speachless..I have never heard anything like this before..it is so complex...I mean you have this heavy beat....Is that an electric guitar...the violin...wow...i dunno...this is going to pound in my car though..

[ethaxton]

Damn, the songs are going to sound great in my car. This song is one of the ones Stefan was saying will go to the clubs or whatever. Sounds pretty cool though...is this the first clip we have gotten with no vocals or am i mistaken?

[dmbfan4ever]

:ugh why? are you impervious to other styles of music?


or did you expect dave to bust out a rap?
well it was just very electronic, so I didn't know what to expect.....and no i didn't expect him to bust out a rap...though I hate rap with a passion, i wasn't scared of him rapping...the first couple seconds are the most unDMB of the album so far, which isn't a bad thing.....just scary at first listen

[ARFiredancer]

sounds like rap until boyd comes in...interesting, can't wait to hear the vocals.

[Nitro1515]

Seriously that is one of the coolest things I've heard from the band, its so rockin'.

[darbini]

.......yeah

[manninta]

Does anyone have the link?
Thanks

[shoelessjoe910]

Carter's beats in this is really hip-hopish....but in a good way. It's like old skool hip-hop from the 80s. Not 50 Cent crap or something.

[darbini]

the first couple seconds are the most unDMB of the album so far, which isn't a bad thing.....just scary at first listen


i agree, but then again I think the beginning of Stand Up with the quick 'machine' hits and the devilish slow voice are the most unDMB I've ever heard

[darbini]

Carter's beats in this is really hip-hopish....but in a good way. It's like old skool hip-hop from the 80s. Not 50 Cent crap or something.


yeah, something like Paula Abdul or something, right on!

[bdrum992]

Wow, definetly found one I don't like. I've been hearing over and over about dave's new sound. And for the most part I've loved every new song I've heard from this album....But this, this is like a reallly really HEAVY rock/hip hop kind of thing. The other stuff we've heard has been a new dmb sound, but this isn't even dmb. I really don't even know where to put this.

[Ruvo11]

I can't tell with this one...I really need to hear Dave's voice/lyrics over this one. It does have the makings of a killer jam in concert though.

[darbini]

I'm really enjoying the shock value alot, it's pretty refreshing

[DriveOut]

Sounds cooler with headphones. They have some interesting directional audio going on here, especially at the beginning of the clip. This is so freaking weird but I think I'm going to like the song once I hear the full thing, especially because that other quick clip of Die Trying in the video seems like it could merge into this beat in a really cool way.

[road_designer]

How can they play this live if Boyd is plucking over himself?

[dmbgreenday]

Well I must say that was jaw dropping. These guys are unbelievable!!!! Great clip, just when i thought the boys couldn't outdo themselves, they pull this off> I can't fuckin wait for the album and tour peace!

[edwouldgo]

Maybe that rumour about a Justin Timberlake guest spot WAS true;) Mmmm... I'm lovin' it!

Seriously though- I never post on this board, but I've gotta say- if it takes a reinvention to keep this band going, and to keep making great music, then more power to them. I'd rather have a re-invigorated, re-energized band, than a band coming off of the mediocre embarassment of a drab paint-by-numbers album. I look at each album like an addition to a career long live show "palette". The more diverse- the better. This album will no doubt infuse some funk into the live sets, and will probably re-energize older tunes also. If they wanna explore their beat-box capabilities then it's well within their right to do so!

I, for one, can't wait for the album to come out!

S

[JUburton]

It sounds really cool...I can't wait to hear some vocals on it.

[msb3079]

love this clip

[joepsu0985]

Wow...Im sorry but if you cant like the way these 5 guys are going with thier music, than you are missing out..I mean..this sounds so dynamic...

[DriveOut]

How can they play this live if Boyd is plucking over himself?

Maybe Dave will pluck, since he has no guitar part here. Holy crap that'd be hilarious.

[sharibean]

Sounds cooler with headphones. They have some interesting directional audio going on here, especially at the beginning of the clip. This is so freaking weird but I think I'm going to like the song once I hear the full thing, especially because that other quick clip of Die Trying in the video seems like it could merge into this beat in a really cool way.

which video has the clip of Die Trying in it? thanks :)

shari

[BeQuietAndDrive]

How can they play this live if Boyd is plucking over himself?

Well, to be fair, American Baby also has a layered sax.

[chrisandiego]

To Boyd's sweet sounding plucking :thumbsup :multi

[DriveOut]

I think someone who heard the album said the first song clip from Video 2, in which you can make out the lyrics, "Just you and I ...", is from Die Trying.

[yanks7533]

yeh so this is basically the beginning of the ending jam i heard in that cell phone clip...pretty funky hip hop drum thing in the beginning...but thats gonna rock , very cool grove and stuff

in response to the above post yeh it is the lyrics on that clip are soemthing like "what i'd die for"

[slymshady626]

like boyd and roi but it definately sounds like fitty cent should be comin in with the vocals

[Nitro1515]

which video has the clip of Die Trying in it? thanks :)

shari
Its video clip 2 right when Batson is talking about Carter, you have to turn it up real loud to hear it, its only like a 3 second clip of the song

[darbini]

All of these songs sound full to me, and in depth, which is a great thing. BTCS was very 'full'. ED on the other hand, was very thick, you know, just in your face BOOM. Each member has a song to play during the SU songs, as opposed to a section that they just join in on. The music has great timing on these clips, there is no hurry to get them over with. Like I said, it's alot 'fuller'

[Alandmb]

:thumbsup I like this one.........

[AlaskaFox]

After listening to this a few times, this is starting to become my favourite clip. Boyd's violin and plucking are really good, and I love the sax part. Can't wait to hear what the vocals are like.

[frettrickman]

It sounds sweet, only this is.... Where's the carter that's off the hook? He sounds all electronic. Don't get me wrong, like the beat, don't know if I like carters electronic sound--for lack of a better term--.

[twostep22]

definitely not a fan of this one. i've liked most of the songs that i've heard up to now, but this one is pushing it. i don't know about anyone else, but i like it better when carter plays real drums, it seems like such a waste to reduce such a great drummer to these simple rap beats. and as for the other instruments, they seem to just be repetitive melodies that just get repeated over and over, which is not why i got into dmb. take away the ability to layer tracks at a live show and i think this song will get real old real fast. then again, maybe the rest of the song is better

[BustedJeff]

Errr...I don't know how I feel about this one...

[Route2]

first 2 seconds scared me...but wow....Boyd tears it up and i am lovin Leroi...anxious to see how Dave will sing over this....I really like this clip a lot....it could really evolve into an unbelievable jam....MAY 10th can't come soon enough!

took the words right out of my mouth!!

[FJM005]

wow.......that is VERY different. cool though

[waynekj]

me and my roommate have been dmb fans for years.. 10+.. sat down to listen to the clip.. and it is fucking bad to the bone.. i for one love these beats and the way they add the violin and sax is just amazing.. i think it's obvious that carter wanted to play like this on the album.. he can make some crazy beats.. i love it and can't wait another week..

[dmbosw41]

Im breakdancing to this song right now. This is some badass grooves

[goochylittlepig]

this sounds awesome. every clip gets better and better. like someone else said, im sorry if ya dont like this, cuz you're missing out

[BustedJeff]

Ok, ok...I've listened to it a few more times. I don't like it at all.

[Dagwin]

I thought Louisiana Bayou sounded weird in the clip, and now this? Wow!

Very weird for DMB.

If you could see me right now, I look like a deer caught in the headlights. I don't know what to make of this techno, club sound. Electronic drum machine sound is not flattering for Carter, either.

[2StepintoCrash]

I love it...I want to hear some lyrics...but I like the groove.

[Kennetjr]

Have they posted a clip of "Out of My Hands" yet or did I miss it?

[dmbosw41]

this clip sounds great LOUD!!! I just love how they took the techno beat and added in some sweet ROI.

[snyddogg430]

I think it stinks.

[darbini]

Have they posted a clip of "Out of My Hands" yet or did I miss it?


missed the tour boat on that one chief :shrug






annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd the monkey: :monkey

[road_designer]

Damn, I got rid of my 15's when I was 17 cause I had gotten out of that "phase". Now I gotta go get another box, an amp, and rattle proof my trunk just to listen to DMB on this new CD?

[Matt]

Wow - I didn't realize they were getting into doing the soundtracks for old NES games.

[Dagwin]

Have they posted a clip of "Out of My Hands" yet or did I miss it?


You can still listen to it if you know how.

[dmbosw41]

I dont see how any music lover cant like this beat and its got a fricken violin in the background! 50 cent cant come close


Im calling it now:

DT-->
PNP-->
Rapunzel

[Steve Dawg]

sounds fuckin badass

[road_designer]

Wow - I didn't realize they were getting into doing the soundtracks for old NES games.

that's not what you said in your review after the listening party.

[Orpheus]

this sounds awesome. every clip gets better and better. like someone else said, im sorry if ya dont like this, cuz you're missing out

:thumbsup This album's going to be so much fun to explore this summer...

[Orpheus]

Wow - I didn't realize they were getting into doing the soundtracks for old NES games.

Hey, some of those old games had great melodies to go with them. I'm not seeing a downside yet. :lol

[jr_cigar]

i can see thsi song growing old really fast, pure miami vice

[GruvnDMBRiddims]

I am feeling this clip....very powerful. I hate to say it, but it almost sounds as though this song could/will get a remix (probably unofficial though). This one is gonna be great live. I like how it sounds kinda dark & aggressive... great stuff. I'm very very optimistic about this album now....from what we've heard in all the clips it sounds as though the band is trying to take the listener on a journey, and so far (at least w/ me)--they are accomplishing that goal.
:hump :hump :hump :hump :hump

[wiebrod]

If they broke out a cover to the RBI baseball theme I'd be happy.

[DriveOut]

As much as I do like this clip, every time I try to replay it in my head it gets superimposed with "Stunt 101" :lol .

[krbarrett77]

Beginning of this song reminds me of Bright Eyes "Arc Of Time"

[waynekj]

I think everyone not enjoying these clips needs to think of it this way.. dave and the boys listen to all sorts of different music.. i can see dave breaking out some rap and scatting along with it or steffan busting out some hard core rock and listening.. the sound, as we call it "the dmb sound" might not actually be the dmb sound.. maybe this is it. maybe they like this better. and if you listen to music and this clip I would hope that you could respect it for what it is.. cause it's new and it sounds clean.. couldn't be happier with this new clip

[krbarrett77]

How can they play this live if Boyd is plucking over himself?

Boyd could learn to use a digital delay pedal, but my guess is they have somone else do it. Butch or dave or something.

[Rippy]

sounds like cheesy 80's rap music.

[TurboPGT]

To all of you who are singing this ear splitting tune: "I don't like poppy sound, wha wha wha, techno/hip hop/rap/ ahhhh it sucks! poppy shit! ahh!"

Shut..the fuck...up. It's just a BEAT for christ sake. Its not pop, its not hip hop, its not RAP, omg....its a friggin beat. If Dave starts rapping I'll gladly eat my words, but since we know he WON'T, stop being so ignorant! It's just music.

You guys have blinded by the name Mark Batson....everytime you hear a new beat all i hear is, "Its HIP HOP, RUN!" DMB SUCKS!"

Holy crap guys, wake up (:lol) The real blame I think falls on the shit-for-brains' that have represented the R&B and Hip Hop genres over the last 15 years. They have given those styles of music a bad name....they were really just rhythmic beats at first, until ghetto trash turned it into offensive chanting.

[AlaskaFox]

Wow - I didn't realize they were getting into doing the soundtracks for old NES games.

What, you never heard Sugar Will? :D

[AlaskaFox]

Have they posted a clip of "Out of My Hands" yet or did I miss it?

Yeah, and it's the best clip so far. (Although now YMDT is close behind)

[TurboPGT]

I think everyone not enjoying these clips needs to think of it this way.. dave and the boys listen to all sorts of different music.. i can see dave breaking out some rap and scatting along with it or steffan busting out some hard core rock and listening.. the sound, as we call it "the dmb sound" might not actually be the dmb sound.. maybe this is it. maybe they like this better. and if you listen to music and this clip I would hope that you could respect it for what it is.. cause it's new and it sounds clean.. couldn't be happier with this new clip

:thumbsup The problem is that Dave and the boys aren't as ignorant as many of their "fans" seem to be.

[TurboPGT]

and the plucking suddenly reminded me of what you are....don't know why....there was something there though that struck me

[Rippy]

To all of you who are singing this ear splitting tune: "I don't like poppy sound, wha wha wha, techno/hip hop/rap/ ahhhh it sucks! poppy shit! ahh!"

Shut..the fuck...up. It's just a BEAT for christ sake. Its not pop, its not hip hop, its not RAP, omg....its a friggin beat. If Dave starts rapping I'll gladly eat my words, but since we know he WON'T, stop being so ignorant! It's just music.

You guys have blinded by the name Mark Batson....everytime you hear a new beat all i hear is, "Its HIP HOP, RUN!" DMB SUCKS!"

Holy crap guys, wake up (:lol) The real blame I think falls on the shit-for-brains' that have represented the R&B and Hip Hop genres over the last 15 years. They have given those styles of music a bad name....they were really just rhythmic beats at first, until ghetto trash turned it into offensive chanting.

Its ok if people dont like the clip, it really is. I personally dont like the 50 seconds of music I just heard. Thats my opinion. If we werent allowed to voice our opinions, this thread wouldnt be called "You Might Die Trying DISCUSSION".

[darbini]

:thumbsup The problem is that Dave and the boys aren't as ignorant as many of their "fans" seem to be.


ain't that the truth

[timg1414]

:thumbsup The problem is that Dave and the boys aren't as ignorant as many of their "fans" seem to be.

sounds like my roomates reaction to it i hate it cuz its hip-hop sounding... omg imagine that something different new... everyone would be bitching if they turned out the same type of cds like crash or before these crowded streets so i say just get over it and progress or deal with it and dont spend money on it

[mr.MikeD]

:thumbsup The problem is that Dave and the boys aren't as ignorant as many of their "fans" seem to be.

having an opinion is being ignorant? uh oh.

[road_designer]

I think the beat is simple right now but their is a LOT of space for Carter to do his thing.

[Rippy]

sounds like my roomates reaction to it i hate it cuz its hip-hop sounding... omg imagine that something different new... everyone would be bitching if they turned out the same type of cds like crash or before these crowded streets so i say just get over it and progress or deal with it and dont spend money on it


Coming from the guy who said "STAND UP sucks-canceling the preorder" after he heard the "out of my hands" clip. :lol :lol

[kevbo41]

sounds like my roomates reaction to it i hate it cuz its hip-hop sounding... omg imagine that something different new... everyone would be bitching if they turned out the same type of cds like crash or before these crowded streets so i say just get over it and progress or deal with it and dont spend money on it


well i think your roomates should be entitled to their own opinons. :BANG

[timg1414]

your lucky you even got to listen to it since you renewed someones else warehouse today

[Rippy]

your lucky you even got to listen to it since you renewed someones else warehouse today




:thumbsup :thumbsup

[cherone21]

will sound more dmb like in concert if they play it acoustic. Pretty sweet overall, but it seems like it will be very hard to recreate life due to the fact that the mandolin and the violin are being played at the same time.

[timg1414]

the point so far where i actaully almost cancelled the preorder was american baby my god does that song suck ass

[Rippy]

will sound more dmb like in concert if they play it acoustic. Pretty sweet overall, but it seems like it will be very hard to recreate life due to the fact that the mandolin and the violin are being played at the same time.


:thumbsup Hopefully it will be better live and it wont have that chincy MC-Hammer-ish background.

[dmb6743]

nope, not gonna listen to any more clips, as tough as it is, im gonna wait till next tuesday.

[kevbo41]

:thumbsup Hopefully it will be better live and it wont have that chincy MC-Hammer-ish background.

:thumbsup :thumbsup

[Rippy]

the point so far where i actaully almost cancelled the preorder was american baby my god does that song suck ass



"sounds like my roomates reaction to it i hate it cuz its pop sounding... omg imagine that something different new... everyone would be bitching if they turned out the same type of cds like crash or before these crowded streets so i say just get over it and progress or deal with it and dont spend money on it"

[timg1414]

it just has nothing to it the lyrics are shitty a deaf mute could have wrote and played that

[Rippy]

it just has nothing to it the lyrics are shitty a deaf mute could have wrote and played that


Cancel the pre-order!!!!!!! :lol :lol

[TurboPGT]

Its ok if people dont like the clip, it really is. I personally dont like the 50 seconds of music I just heard. Thats my opinion. If we werent allowed to voice our opinions, this thread wouldnt be called "You Might Die Trying DISCUSSION".

I expected this redundant friggin response....



go back...read it again....:freak


Never said anything about not liking it in general....i gave a specific criteria....and if that was your reason, than you are an idiot.

otherwise, have a nice day :D

[kevbo41]

watch out folks tim g is spreading - flare for no reason

[timg1414]

i like the new sound although the cd is over produced

[TurboPGT]

having an opinion is being ignorant? uh oh.

same goes for you

[Dagwin]

sounds like my roomates reaction to it i hate it cuz its hip-hop sounding... omg imagine that something different new... everyone would be bitching if they turned out the same type of cds like crash or before these crowded streets so i say just get over it and progress or deal with it and dont spend money on it

I'd be willing to bet that their would be a lot less bitching if the new cd sounded more like Crash or BTCS. I don't buy into that whole argument.

[timg1414]

its boring to have 10 cds with the same sound. i think the band would get bored turning out the same stuff

[Rippy]

I expected this redundant friggin response....



go back...read it again....:freak


Never said anything about not liking it in general....i gave a specific criteria....and if that was your reason, than you are an idiot.

otherwise, have a nice day :D



Maybe you are an idiot. People have a right to say they hate it because its too poppy or hip hoppy or whatever.

[nonewdirections]

I'd be willing to bet that their would be a lot less bitching if the new cd sounded more like Crash or BTCS. I don't buy into that whole argument.

and the only proof regarding that argument is lacking -- the lillywhite sessions were arguably an extension of the BTCS sound, and everyone still loves the music from that.

[Captian Raven]

This has different but it has my sea; of aproval

[MistreatedLewis]

and the only proof regarding that argument is lacking -- the lillywhite sessions were arguably an extension of the BTCS sound, and everyone still loves the music from that.


I don't. Unless it was revolutionized somehow I think I would have found it inferior to the previous three released. It has a few super tracks, including Captain, Monkey, Grace, Grey and Bartender. But some of the songs like JTR, Busted Stuff, Big Eyed Fish, and Kit Kat Jam just sound like tired out old DMB retreads to me. I'd take ths studio recordings of I Did It, Dreams of Our Fathers, What You Are and So Right over those any day of the week.

[aggiekjw]

on rollingstone.com they have put up reviews of the new NIN and weezer cd's but no DMB.. i wonder if their working on something big.. could be good or bad..

[dmb24hickey]

i havent listened to any of the clips cept LB when i came home too drunk from the bar and my will power was gone..but i definately feel this cd is gonna take some time to get used to which isnt a bad thing...only time will tell i am leaving my judments till i listen to it several times in my room, car and through headphones..but from what ive been readiing..it sounds like bela fleck could tear some of this shit up ....so antioch, tennessee cannot come fast enough!!!(crosses fingers)

[kevbo41]

i wish the change would have been gradual this is too sudden for me it will take time but im still buying it!

[darbini]

I think ED was great in preparing us for something like this. If this came right after BTCS there would've been a nuclear winter.

[Matt]

that's not what you said in your review after the listening party.



You're right, this (http://antsmarching.org/forum/showpost.php?p=2637347&postcount=904) is what I said.

The lights came on and they spun the remaining tracks on the album as people got up to mingle and drink.

Since the disc was playing in the backround, and there was a lot of conversations happening, I couldn't fully focus on the songs

Nowhere in my review did I mention a thing about You Might Die Trying. Thanks for sticking with your modus operandi, though. :thumbsup

[MinaretScreamin]

this clip is the bomb!

[Cordevil95]

I like it. And all of you saying it sounds like 80's rap, you obviously never listened to 80's rap.

[Rippy]

I like it. And all of you saying it sounds like 80's rap, you obviously never listened to 80's rap.


I said that and no I dont listen to 80's rap. I was just trying to make the "chincy" comparison. :hump

[dmbfan101]

I think ED was great in preparing us for something like this. If this came right after BTCS there would've been a nuclear winter.


:thumbsup:thumbsup

**this clip scared the hell out of me when it first started...i seriously thought i was listening to Michael Jackson's new cd...but then the violin came in, and i started to groove, and then the sax started wailing...oh man...now i can't stop listening to it...everyone who's said that this is gonna blast in their cars is SO RIGHT...this is gonna be flippin sweet...i kinda don't even want any vocals...hopin it's like the jam song for this album...kk, my $.02 are in!
:hump

[Rippy]

It sounds like: "Banging on a trash can, drummin on a street light."

[CarterBoydBear]

sounds like rap until boyd comes in...interesting, can't wait to hear the vocals.
:thumbsup , I can't wait to hear what this is like live

[CarterBoydBear]

It sounds like: "Banging on a trash can, drummin on a street light."
haha old school doug style

[Rippy]

haha old school doug style


:lol

[dmbfan101]

hell yea doug!! :-) good stuff! well done Rippy!

[Rippy]

http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2P27FX8T2EKG40FI15COUEZMV8

[emp88]

could do without the drum beat..other than that i think its ok.

[eevulhomer]

im likin the sound....would like to have some lyrics but oh well

[Rippy]

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3NJX9FMS6THCT2L6VZ7QTDUASV


^^ this one works

[darbini]

http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2P27FX8T2EKG40FI15COUEZMV8


\

annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd I hope that isn't the clip

[darbini]

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3NJX9FMS6THCT2L6VZ7QTDUASV


^^ this one works


wait, I hope THAT one isn't the clip :twak

[Bluedaze21]

Maybe you are an idiot. People have a right to say they hate it because its too poppy or hip hoppy or whatever.

True, but technically people also have a right to tell those said people to shut the hell up. :)

In all seriousness- in order to achieve any kind of credibility, "they" also have a responsibility to present their opinions in a constructive manner. I've seen too many "this sucks ass" "dmb is t3h su><0rs" "I want Lillywhite, Batson is the new Ballard" comments that can merit a reasonably frustrated response as Turbo gave.

That and giving him shit for expressing his opinion is a little oxymoronic, it's your duty to take what he says with a grain of sand (or salt if that floats your boat).

[Rippy]

True, but technically people also have a right to tell those said people to shut the hell up. :)

In all seriousness- in order to achieve any kind of credibility, "they" also have a responsibility to present their opinions in a constructive manner. I've seen too many "this sucks ass" "dmb is t3h su><0rs" "I want Lillywhite, Batson is the new Ballard" comments that can merit a reasonably frustrated response as Turbo gave.

Giving him shit for expressing his opinion is a little oxymoronic.


I agree with that to an extent but an opinion is still an opinion. People dont need backup for their opinions on what they like to listen to. They have the right to love it or hate it unconditionally.

[darbini]

"dmb is t3h su><0rs"


annnnd what the hell does that mean?

[cptnhansel]

this new song is the weirdest (yet still good) thing ive ever heard out of this band

[Bluedaze21]

I agree with that to an extent but an opinion is still an opinion. People dont need backup for their opinions on what they like to listen to. They have the right to love it or hate it unconditionally.

No contesting you there- in regards to people reserving the right to their own opinion unconditionally. But such unproductive responses as those harshly worded with no support in an outlet such as this thread which someone said before was labeled "Discussion," is just filler to scroll-over.

I agree with you, I just beg for a little more conduct out of some.......that's asking too much sometimes.

[tripinbartender]

what the ball sweat is this?

[Rippy]

No contesting you there- in regards to people reserving the right to their own opinion unconditionally. But such unproductive responses as those harshly worded with no support is just filler in a thread to scroll-over.

I agree with you, I just beg for a little more conduct out of some.......that's asking too much sometimes.


:thumbsup Agreed.

[Tinusch]

I've seen too many "this sucks ass" "dmb is t3h su><0rs"

Hahaha I've heard a lot of shit talking but I don't think that one's come up yet.

About the song... It rocks, it's a huge departure from anything pre-ED but it's a damn cool sound in its own right. Roi really spices this one up. I love the old DMB sound but I'm all for a little more variety. I think these new songs are going to sound great alongside the traditional DMB tunes.

[Bluedaze21]

:thumbsup Agreed.

Cool :)

Though I changed my post a lil' bit.....didn't like the wording....I do that sometimes.....:lol

[goochylittlepig]

Wow - I didn't realize they were getting into doing the soundtracks for old NES games.
i dunno if you've heard the first song on the 2nd disc of tim reynolds' new album, but it's totally mario bros. in koopa's castle. it develops into something better tho

[goochylittlepig]

To all of you who are singing this ear splitting tune: "I don't like poppy sound, wha wha wha, techno/hip hop/rap/ ahhhh it sucks! poppy shit! ahh!"

Shut..the fuck...up. It's just a BEAT for christ sake. Its not pop, its not hip hop, its not RAP, omg....its a friggin beat. If Dave starts rapping I'll gladly eat my words, but since we know he WON'T, stop being so ignorant! It's just music.

You guys have blinded by the name Mark Batson....everytime you hear a new beat all i hear is, "Its HIP HOP, RUN!" DMB SUCKS!"

Holy crap guys, wake up (:lol) The real blame I think falls on the shit-for-brains' that have represented the R&B and Hip Hop genres over the last 15 years. They have given those styles of music a bad name....they were really just rhythmic beats at first, until ghetto trash turned it into offensive chanting.
:thumbsup hell yeah.
and who said this was techno? it's fucking dmb, dude. theyre playing the music on instruments.... i think these things definitely have a cool produced sound to them, but theyre going to be amazing live. try to picture it. it's not gonna sound electronic or produced at all, and theyre gonna be jamming it up. it's gonna be crazy, i just don't know how some people can hear this and not like it.

[DMBand520]

Wow. This song is really different. I dont know if I like it or not yet. I'll need to give it a few more listens.

Also I've missed a few days worth of clips and I was just going back and listening to the ones i missed. I just want to see if I've got them all.

Is this list right?

Released Clips
--------------
Dreamgirl
Old Dirt Hill (Bring That Beat Back)
Stand Up (For It)
Smooth Rider
Everybody Wake Up (Our Finest Hour Arrives)
Out of My Hands
Hello Again
Louisiana Bayou
Stolen Away on 55th and 3rd
You Might Die Trying

Unreleased
--------------
Steady As We Go
Hunger for the Great Light

And one last thing. I've been saving bookmarks to the clips and they all still play except for Dreamgirl and Old Dirt Hill. Anyone else who bookmarked the clips as they were released having this problem?

Edit: Oh yeah and I'm not asking for clips. Just making sure I'm all caught up! Thanks.

[Bluedaze21]

:thumbsup hell yeah.
and who said this was techno?

The same ones who are saying that Carter is a talentless amputee on this album who is playing a drum machine with his nose.

[Dagwin]

Wow. This song is really different. I dont know if I like it or not yet. I'll need to give it a few more listens.

Also I've missed a few days worth of clips and I was just going back and listening to the ones i missed. I just want to see if I've got them all.

Is this list right?

Released Clips
--------------
Dreamgirl
Old Dirt Hill (Bring That Beat Back)
Stand Up (For It)
Smooth Rider
Everybody Wake Up (Our Finest Hour Arrives)
Out of My Hands
Hello Again
Louisiana Bayou
Stolen Away on 55th and 3rd
You Might Die Trying

Unreleased
--------------
Steady As We Go
Hunger for the Great Light

And one last thing. I've been saving bookmarks to the clips and they all still play except for Dreamgirl and Old Dirt Hill. Anyone else who bookmarked the clips as they were released having this problem?

I assume you've heard the AB Intro clip?

And you are correct. Dreamgirl and Old Dirt Hill don't work anymore.

[dmbfan101]

as for people posting on their opinions...that's cool...but this is a fan based site..so if it's gonna be bashing...whether you believe it's true or not..i just think it can be kept to a certain level of respect...i mean, for the people posting here, and even those members who just read over these posts, DMB isn't just a source for music...and they're music isn't intended to impress us, or to please us...music is expression, as cliche as that sounds, so how they say "it's a gift to eachother" it really is...so perhaps we can keep the bashing to a limited amount...and by no means am i saying to stop giving your own opinion, good or bad, at all, because this is a forum, where we can discuss our opinions...all i'm saying is that for all of us fans, we can respect the band and eachother and keep it limited!

[goochylittlepig]

The same ones who are saying that Carter is a talentless amputee on this album who is playing a drum machine with his nose.
:lol :lol :lol

[AlaskaFox]

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3NJX9FMS6THCT2L6VZ7QTDUASV


^^ this one works

I'd take that down if I was you.

[Dagwin]

I'd take that down if I was you.


Why? It's not the clip of Die Trying.

[Rippy]

I'd take that down if I was you.


why?

[krameruth]

my computer sucks...wont work with my windows media player through warehouse...can someone post it or send it to me through IM...please?

[Rippy]

my computer sucks...wont work with my windows media player through warehouse...can someone post it or send it to me through IM...please?


I dont know if thats considered kosher

[DMBand520]

I assume you've heard the AB Intro clip?

And you are correct. Dreamgirl and Old Dirt Hill don't work anymore.

No, I didnt know the AB Intro Clip was released.

[Bluedaze21]

my computer sucks...wont work with my windows media player through warehouse...can someone post it or send it to me through IM...please?

Wouldn't work on my media player either outright. I had to copy the address of the file and paste it under "open URL".....same address, same everything- just for some reason wouldn't work unless I did that.

Hope that helps, otherwise if you're subliminably asking for a hard copy, nevermind.

[Dagwin]

No, I didnt know the AB Intro Clip was released.

Yeah, it's awesome. Just plug in "Intro." My fav. clip! Carter is awesome!

[jfreed009]

I feel like i am the only one who is really feeling this clip and i think that this sound is not so far off for the dmb sound that we know.. i mean i could imagine that clip on BTCS right around the stone and halloween it has that haunting sound and there is so much going on that it just reminds me of BTCS. I have a feeling that this cd will not be accepting well by the casual listeners or most of us hardcore, but after time it will grow on everyone and become a fan favorite album just like the way BTCS did.

[lilyse]

wow I absolutely love this clip.. It's definitely my favorite so far. Boyd tearsss it up! I love the pizz. in addition to the arco in the background. how many days until may 10! :/ too many!

[TurboPGT]

as for people posting on their opinions...that's cool...but this is a fan based site..so if it's gonna be bashing...whether you believe it's true or not..i just think it can be kept to a certain level of respect...i mean, for the people posting here, and even those members who just read over these posts, DMB isn't just a source for music...and they're music isn't intended to impress us, or to please us...music is expression, as cliche as that sounds, so how they say "it's a gift to eachother" it really is...so perhaps we can keep the bashing to a limited amount...and by no means am i saying to stop giving your own opinion, good or bad, at all, because this is a forum, where we can discuss our opinions...all i'm saying is that for all of us fans, we can respect the band and eachother and keep it limited!

:thumbsup i said the same thing and lost 3 rep points for it

[TurboPGT]

my computer sucks...wont work with my windows media player through warehouse...can someone post it or send it to me through IM...please?

eeek read the big red announcement

[MistreatedLewis]

So have people been noticing that the majority of these clips sound nothing like Everyday?

[yanks7533]

good stuff...the hip hop drums are kinda scary at first but if you listen to the way the song is strucutred that beast fits perfect with the jam, you have to look at the hwole picture

and i listened to the clip it seems that a roi and boyd jam goes into that breakdown so theres a good minute-minute and a half or more of jamming on this one...this ones gonna be amonster live

and i feel dave could easily pick up that boyd part, boyd play his thing and roi play his...i love how they have more than one member jamming at a time....thats one thing i wanted from this album

[krameruth]

ooppss..sorry, i dont wanna get banned, ill just try and make it work

[darbini]

boyd play his thing and roi play his...i love how they have more than one member jamming at a time....thats one thing i wanted from this album


and that was definately missing from ED, let alone just the jamming

[dmbstan]

i think it sounds just like Dmb should be, you unopen minded fucks have no clue what you are saying about it sounding like rap and pop. deal with it. dmb is evolving into something better. thats what great lengendary bands do

[AlaskaFox]

why?

You can't post the clips or direct links to them.

[Rippy]

Dont worry, I didnt.

[yanks7533]

if you think that the drum thing sound bad, ok it's different, but listen to the lb clip and then the song live...it works so well in a live setting and in the song as a WHOLE, same will happen with this one

[AlaskaFox]

Dont worry, I didnt.

Oh right, sorry.

[DTRFFdmb]

i think it sounds just like Dmb should be, you unopen minded fucks have no clue what you are saying about it sounding like rap and pop. deal with it. dmb is evolving into something better. thats what great lengendary bands do


what?? so theyve gotten this far on crap music that doesnt deserve the cd players time?? fuck this song. i cant get away from hip hop. this is not how DMB should sound with the synthetic drum beat and the rapesque feel. it soulds like a song produced by the neptunes that should be played on TRL with 50 cent.

if this is how you think DMB shold sound then i dont know why youre here.,

[TrippinMonkey41]

Ok the rap beat in the background I could do without. I think this song will be great live because it'll be minus the background beat unless DMB decides to bust out some drum machines and turn tables.lol

Brad

[BeQuietAndDrive]

what?? so theyve gotten this far on crap music that doesnt deserve the cd players time?? fuck this song. i cant get away from hip hop. this is not how DMB should sound with the synthetic drum beat and the rapesque feel. it soulds like a song produced by the neptunes that should be played on TRL with 50 cent.

if this is how you think DMB shold sound then i dont know why youre here.,

Get off your high horse, pal. DMB themselves is a much better gauge of what DMB should sound like than you are.

[MistreatedLewis]

what?? so theyve gotten this far on crap music that doesnt deserve the cd players time?? fuck this song. i cant get away from hip hop. this is not how DMB should sound with the synthetic drum beat and the rapesque feel. it soulds like a song produced by the neptunes that should be played on TRL with 50 cent.

if this is how you think DMB shold sound then i dont know why youre here.,

I've been a DMB fan since 1995 and this sound doesn't bother me. I like it. I'd rather them experiment with stuff like this that put out another album of Grace Is Gones and Digging A Ditches.

[msb3079]

i likeed this a lot when i first listened in the office... but was still a little unsure of the sound...

just listened again now on my good headphones....


SOOO HOOOT!!!!

[elconguero]

what this reminds me of the most is when peter greiser was in the band. go back and listen to halloween circa feb 93. greiser used alot of effects. if anything they have gone full circle. this is not all that new for dmb. an di am guessing that they don't overuse this stuff. once it gets to the point where it may be annoying they probably switch it up.

[ryguy178]

How can they play this live if Boyd is plucking over himself?

Later in the song, Roi becomes the one taking over that plucking riff on the sax, so I imagine that Roi and Boyd will switch off on who is carrying the riff...

By the way, this is fucking awesome. I've never heard anything like this from them before, and it is amazing. This is going to be ridiculous on a system

[BryH17]

should be interesting live, they cant have plucking and violin at the same time (or can they??? -get bela for everyshow haha-), unless dave does some wierd ish with his guitar or butch does an effect on the keys. Also, the the distortion will be somehting interesting as well.

this is random, but does neone think theyre gonna make butch an officail part of DMB? im waiting for the shadow thing, like the they have for the rest of band, like think of a dude on a keyboard on top of the offical site haha

[macleodad]

:lol Wow - I didn't realize they were getting into doing the soundtracks for old NES games.
:thumbsup

[nonewdirections]

OK, side-stepping all these arguments about semantics and "what dmb is," this sounds pretty un-lovely to me. I don't need to make comparisons to rap or pop music to state that I don't like what I hear.

[dmbstan]

OK, side-stepping all these arguments about semantics and "what dmb is," this sounds pretty un-lovely to me. I don't need to make comparisons to rap or pop music to state that I don't like what I hear.

if more people expressed their dislike the way you do, we wouldn't have any arguing, thank you. then again, these boards wouldn't be any fun without arguing

[MexicoDMB]

On Bayou, i didn't know it was dave doing that "plucking" noise...but apparently it is...so maybe the same sort of thing is going on here... or maybe not...i don't know... i haven't heard this... i'm out of the loop

[BustedJeff]

OK, side-stepping all these arguments about semantics and "what dmb is," this sounds pretty un-lovely to me. I don't need to make comparisons to rap or pop music to state that I don't like what I hear.

Me no like either.

[MistreatedLewis]

:thumbsup

Electronic or not, some of these songs are the most alive the band has sounded on any new material (excluding the summer songs) since 2000. I'd take this over Loving Wings any day of the week.

what this reminds me of the most is when peter greiser was in the band. go back and listen to halloween circa feb 93. greiser used alot of effects. if anything they have gone full circle. this is not all that new for dmb. an di am guessing that they don't overuse this stuff. once it gets to the point where it may be annoying they probably switch it up.

[SideshowRob]

im not saying i like it... im not saying i dont like it... im just wondering if and how they'd pull it off live... until someone answers that... i will remain sad that i dont think they'd be able to... or it would sound as not good as the single sax outro to American Baby...

(not good compared to the multi-layered sax on the album)

[Dagwin]

:thumbsup

Electronic or not, some of these songs are the most alive the band has sounded on any new material (excluding the summer songs) since 2000. I'd take this over Loving Wings any day of the week.

Maybe Dave wasn't kiddin' when he referred to himself as, "Smooth-D!"

[MistreatedLewis]

The more I hear, the more I see this turning into DMB's So. Really excellent pop songs from a band used to creating music more off the beaten path, like Gabriel. Nobody can say that So is anywhere close to being as "out there" as III yet So is considered a pop classic. I see stuff like Louisiana Bayou and Everybody Wake Up as the fun, Sledgehammer / Big Time type tracks, Out of My Hands as Mercy Street / Don't Give Up beautiful and stuff like Hello Again and You Might Die Trying as terrific pop songs like Red Rain and In Your Eyes.

Not to mention Dave's raspier vocals...

[MistreatedLewis]

im not saying i like it... im not saying i dont like it... im just wondering if and how they'd pull it off live... until someone answers that... i will remain sad that i dont think they'd be able to... or it would sound as not good as the single sax outro to American Baby...

(not good compared to the multi-layered sax on the album)


They'll make it work. I can;t believe Louisiana Bayou sounds the way it does after hearing the clip but it's fantastic live already.

[MistreatedLewis]

im not saying i like it... im not saying i dont like it... im just wondering if and how they'd pull it off live... until someone answers that... i will remain sad that i dont think they'd be able to... or it would sound as not good as the single sax outro to American Baby...

(not good compared to the multi-layered sax on the album)


SMTS and Too Much have a lot of multilayered sax that they unfortunately never pulled off live... Too Much used to bother the hell out of me for that reason but they really do work just fine.

[Rippy]

im not saying i like it... im not saying i dont like it... im just wondering if and how they'd pull it off live... until someone answers that... i will remain sad that i dont think they'd be able to... or it would sound as not good as the single sax outro to American Baby...

(not good compared to the multi-layered sax on the album)


Same goes with Louisiana Bayou for me. I know it was the first time played live and it will become better, but I was not the least bit impressed with how it sounded live. Same with American Baby. I hope thats not the trend of this album.

[dmbfan524]

ok now this is some good shit. my fav so far. anyone know if it has words or not?

[dmbosw41]

looks like we are in another round of the song sucks until I hear it live business. Just cant wait till the album is released so we can just get full reviews instead of I dont like this clip or that clip then 2 days later say they like it now.

[DMBzilla]

Wow. And I thought Lousiana Bayou sounded bad. Guys, come on. I really don't know how, with the best drummer in the world, you can argue that this machine-made piece of shit song is good. I mean, yeah, Boyd and Roi sound great, and maybe this might sound good live (hell, LB sounded great live, but that clip was total garbage), but we're talking about the album versions right now. And right now, once again, I'm going to say that I think this album is going to suck big time. It has nothing to do with it being different or not sounding like DMB -- if I heard a song that sounded like YMDT on the radio, I wouldn't buy the album, hands down.

Someone else stated a worry about how this album was going to bring in the pop fans, and I fear that it will to a very large degree. I'm sorry, but I don't need MORE teeny-boppers coming to DMB shows to see "Daaaaaave," tell him they love him, and take my Warehouse tickets from me.

[Jordan#41]

There's Baston's hip-hop influence... I love this track

[bherd]

What the hell is this? sounds like the beginning to a bad rap song? or a video game :thumbsdow

Not liking this one, a little two different for me.

[MistreatedLewis]

Someone else stated a worry about how this album was going to bring in the pop fans, and I fear that it will to a very large degree. I'm sorry, but I don't need MORE teeny-boppers coming to DMB shows to see "Daaaaaave," tell him they love him, and take my Warehouse tickets from me.


Why would teeny-boppers sign up for the Warehouse?

[ryguy178]

Why would teeny-boppers sign up for the Warehouse?

Front row seats means dave's sweat might drip on them and they'd never have to wash themselves again.

[MistreatedLewis]

Front row seats means dave's sweat might drip on them and they'd never have to wash themselves again.


I forgot about that.

[nonewdirections]

Why would teeny-boppers sign up for the Warehouse?

warehouse has all kinds of members.

[DMBzilla]

Yeah, I mean, WH isn't just die hard DMB fans. A lot of people just throw them the $35 or whatever it is now so they'll get tickets more easily, which means more of the WH saying, "Hey, thanks for being such a long time fan! But, since we have to cater to everyone equally (ahem...bullshit...ahem) here's some lawn seats for a huge show. Don't worry tho -- a few 13 year olds who just LOVE Everyday and Crash Into Me will be sitting where you usually do!"

[Dagwin]

ok now this is some good shit. my fav so far. anyone know if it has words or not?

It does, in fact, have words.

[dmbfan101]

i've been listenin to this clip all day...and everytime i do, i move with it...i agree about taking this over loving wings...it'll be awesome to see this done live...there's always more raw energy live...and this song has that already...so it's gonna be damn sweet.

[bense27]

I really like that song. Is that the beginning or end?

[Mickey Carson]

Seems like this song could rock hard in concert...

[marco j]

i think it sounds just like Dmb should be, you unopen minded fucks have no clue what you are saying about it sounding like rap and pop. deal with it. dmb is evolving into something better. thats what great lengendary bands do


sorry but you obviously don't listen to any hip hop or rap , if you do then you are turning a blind eye for the obvious. This clip sounds like it could be on a Michael Jackson record, sorry it's true . Go take a listen to Dangerous...same effects on that album. No don't got taking this as me not liking it but then again don't go thinking it's not normal for people who listen to BTCS or Crash all the time to be thinking :ugh ?!?


I still don't have a clue how Carter would play this live?! I know he wont have effects but man the beat is WAAAY too simplistic it would suck. He would have to change it up and since i know the man , all is fine.

Seriously folks no more shitting on people who are shocked by this clip because ....it's shocking and probably offensive to some people who hate hip hop with a passion.

[jfreed009]

i've been listenin to this clip all day...and everytime i do, i move with it...i agree about taking this over loving wings...it'll be awesome to see this done live...there's always more raw energy live...and this song has that already...so it's gonna be damn sweet.

i agree with you man. i am so confused by the reaction from most Ants right now. This was the sound ive been looking for, so much energy, kinda scary like BTCS. I think most of you will be eating your words in a month.

[OCMarsh]

The first five seconds of this clip made me think I had accidentally clicked on a Bel Biv Devoe web site. But damn, if it doesn't get going nicely.

[jfreed009]

I also do not think that this is hip-hop. It may have hip-hop infuences but it still has the signiture DMB sound. And its just a clip, from reading the listening party reviews i know that this doesnt represetnt the entire song bc everyone said it had a rock feel to and this clip is merely the end of the song

[Sniper15]

This clip was awesome. Really looking forward to this one now.

[marco j]

one more thing.

If you really would rather have this sound coming from them over Loving Wings.....
then I'm confused how?!? Is it the love for I did it?!? is it the love for a chopped up Grey Street?!?
(sorry I have to be snobbish here)... but you must be out of your fucking minds!!! Dave wrote Loving Wings about his fans and the Love we all share at the shows ! and you go and disrespect it by saying this complete electronic sound is better!?!?
sorry but I'll take proudest monkey or loving wings anyday of the week and still get more boyd and roi out of it and not to mention carter ripping our faces off! Now I'm not afraid of change or of exploration (which I've stated I appreciate an album for) , but to somehow disregard opinions of people who have listened to the band for over a decade and then say they are out of touch is ignorant. These same people are the ones who helped turn you newbies into die hards who can't miss a day on the boards for the new clip. Show some respect and understand some people are older and seem a little let down that something so rappish' could make it onto an album. I think this is what happens when you let anyone but Dave write the song , but then again it's just an opinion.

[Sniper15]

one more thing.

If you really would rather have this sound coming from them over Loving Wings.....
then I'm confused how?!? Is it the love for I did it?!? is it the love for a chopped up Grey Street?!?
(sorry I have to be snobbish here)... but you must be out of your fucking minds!!! Dave wrote Loving Wings about his fans and the Love we all share at the shows ! and you go and disrespect it by saying this complete electronic sound is better!?!?
sorry but I'll take proudest monkey or loving wings anyday of the week and still get more boyd and roi out of it and not to mention carter ripping our faces off! Now I'm not afraid of change or of exploration (which I've stated I appreciate an album for) , but to somehow disregard opinions of people who have listened to the band for over a decade and then say they are out of touch is ignorant. These same people are the ones who helped turn you newbies into die hards who can't miss a day on the boards for the new clip. Show some respect and understand some people are older and seem a little let down that something so rappish' could make it onto an album. I think this is what happens when you let anyone but Dave write the song , but then again it's just an opinion.

Dave wrote loving wings for a friend's wedding not the fans.

[marco j]

Dave wrote loving wings for a friend's wedding not the fans.


....look at the big brain on Brad!

[nonewdirections]

Dave wrote loving wings for a friend's wedding not the fans.

what a selfish asshole!

[darbini]

hmm I thought he wrote it for a girl that was dying/died of cancer, maybe he was just playing it that one night in her honor.

Don't mind me, continue, GAME ON!!!!

[nonewdirections]

hmm I thought he wrote it for a girl that was dying/died of cancer, maybe he was just playing it that one night in her honor.

Don't mind me, continue, GAME ON!!!!

deed is done.

[marco j]

I think I made a clear point.

I still don't know what to think of the clip. I would like to know what the song would sound like without soooo much production and effects on the rythm section?! Man Sugar Will would have kicked on this album!

[Sniper15]

I'm next to positive he said he an interview he wrote it for a friend's wedding. I definetly see and like your interp of it being for the fans though.

[darbini]

deed is done.


Before he played the song he referrenced/dedicated it to a girl that had died of cancer, maybe someone knows what I'm talking about and could help us out.


:hump

[yanks7533]

marco j, for crying out loud the "rap thing" last 10 seconds and thenit blends into a great jam, something that was not present on everyday and something that we are all happy about, i listened to a clip form a listening party, theres a roi jam, it goes into that weird drum thing, then they start jamming again, 10 seconds or so. I agree it isnt necessary and kind of weird but im not gonna trash it and mos tof us dont need to be a fan for 10 years to have a in depth view of this band....

[nonewdirections]

I'm next to positive he said he an interview he wrote it for a friend's wedding. I definetly see and like your interp of it being for the fans though.

and i wrote a song about my friend's mom.

loving wings still was great live. and whoever he wrote it for, the band played it for an audience.

[marco j]

marco j, for crying out loud the "rap thing" last 10 seconds and thenit blends into a great jam, something that was not present on everyday and something that we are all happy about, i listened to a clip form a listening party, theres a roi jam, it goes into that weird drum thing, then they start jamming again, 10 seconds or so. I agree it isnt necessary and kind of weird but im not gonna trash it and mos tof us dont need to be a fan for 10 years to have a in depth view of this band....


what are you talking about?! The drum beat(electronics) goes on and on. That's the part everyone doesn't like.

[OCMarsh]

"This is a tiny little song, but we like it, so fuck it." 9/7/02 before LW

[yanks7533]

but it blends into the background of this jam, and is to a extent less obnoxious than the first 10 seconds, i dunno just the way im trying to look at it im being positive haha and i love the boyd and roy work so i am happy with the song

[marco j]

but it blends into the background of this jam, and is to a extent less obnoxious than the first 10 seconds, i dunno just the way im trying to look at it im being positive haha and i love the boyd and roy work so i am happy with the song


I don't think they blend at all . Matter of fact I think they over power the effect of the violin. I would also not be as unapproving if this were some segue way into another song. If the whole song has drum tracks like this , then I will be disappointed. Again I'm all for studio efforst and exploration I just don't see how an album that was supposed to showcase Carter has a electric sound on half the album?!?

[julio_havok]

Although it sounds electronic it is still Carter playing! The whole "this album will be around Carter" statement makes a lot of sense, because the most important sounds on the album (judging by the clips) seem to be the drums/percussion (electronic-sounding or not).

[Dagwin]

It seem to me that most of the clips are segments from the beginning or ending of the songs, and therefore, not very representative of the entire tune.

I can only hope that most of what I've heard in the clips are the worst parts of the songs. May 10th will tell the tale.

[marco j]

Also the fact that the drum track is actually a LOOP makes it even worse. Too bad .

[Dagwin]

Also the fact that the drum track is actually a LOOP makes it even worse. Too bad .

Yeah, if I didn't know any better, I'd say Carter was ill during the making of the album, so they had to use a drum machine in lieu of him.

How many rep points will I lose for this one?

[marco j]

Yeah, if I didn't know any better, I'd say Carter was ill during the making of the album, so they had to use a drum machine in lieu of him.

How many rep points will I lose for this one?


:lol don't worry you don't have many to lose.

but to be honest I don't think this is true of the whole album. Even though American Baby isn't my favorite(liking it more and more each day) I still like the SOUND of Carter's drums. I wonder why this track and others can't have that same kind of production?!

[elconguero]

yeah, i think maybe they just meant the album would be heavy on the grooves and such when they said it would be focused on carter. carter said in interviews he kept it simple so he could work within the space. i think having a nasty drum solo here and there will be much more effective then if he was non stop for the entire album. i think alot of us are missing the big picture. they are experimenting. that can only be good. they are searching out this new sound. hopefully after playing more with these songs and seeing what works on this tour they will get right back in the studio and get back to creating.

[Dagwin]

There is quite a double-standard going on here. You're allowed to say the album will be badass based on 45 second clips, but you're not allowed to say it will suck based on the same 45 second clips.

And these "double-standard" people are no doubt the ones that would defend DMB if they started playing Heavy Metal, Slayer style. And they'd still try to convince you that it was the same old rootsy DMB "old-school" sound if you listened closely enough.

How many rep points gone for that one?

I'm tryin' to get rid of 'em all.

[marco j]

I agree exploration is good ! drum track looped= BAD. No way around it. If you can't play the whole song perfect the whole way through it doesn't make it on an album.

[Dagwin]

C'mon guys... help me out...

I only have 4 rep points left.

Let's get 'em gone!

WooooooHooooooo!

[marco j]

I just want to make clear ....I am very excited for this album and I will play it extensively. I am just entitled to my opinions of the same clips like everyonelse.

[ethaxton]

The first five seconds of this clip made me think I had accidentally clicked on a Bel Biv Devoe web site. But damn, if it doesn't get going nicely.

The power of Leroi and Boyd take it over :thumbsup

[yanks7533]

i have to agree though im dissapointed at how batson praised carter so much yet on many of the tracks decided to run him on a drum machine and play his beat on a loop, i dont get it

[darbini]

Carter is a drum machine

[Mouchie]

Carter is a drum machine
he must get tired you think?

[marco j]

Carter is a drum machine


Exactly so why loop him?!?

[MistreatedLewis]

Exactly so why loop him?!?


When did we find out he was looped?

[darbini]

A drum machine is Carter. He's looping himself b/c he is a drum machine, hello!

[marco j]

When did we find out he was looped?

have you heard the YMDT clip??? If so . That's a LOOPED track.

[darbini]

When did we find out he was looped?


assumption, pure assumption



i don't know....YEAH MAY10th!!

[darbini]

Tim Reynolds played most of the guitar we hear on UTTAD and CRASH, go bark up his skirt

[MistreatedLewis]

have you heard the YMDT clip??? If so . That's a LOOPED track.


Ok, I believe you. It doesn't sound any more looped to me than Dave's guitar usually does on recordings, but it does seem very possible...

[marco j]

assumption, pure assumption



i don't know....YEAH MAY10th!!



sorry but it's true. Carter has been looped.