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cptnhansel
05-06-2005, 04:59 PM
I just recieved the Stand Up disc this afternoon, and noticed a HUGE difference in audio quality between the actual disc and the 64k streams.
I know this maybe obvious, but I think it was worth noting.

Many 'problems' heard on the 64k streams have been fixed or improved.

1. Carters drumset doesn't sound electronic at all. It sounds very natural, except on LB for some reason.

2. Daves voice quality improved from the 64k streams. The black lung isn't as severe. Sounds much better.

3. A lot of little sounds that add to the music can be heard. (light violin, voices, backup vocals, etc.) Roi's sax is much more audible backing up certain songs; for instance, I had no idea he was playing during the verse in EWU.

4. Obviously, everything is much clearer, and the listening experience is MUCH more enjoyable. Old Dirt Hill is stunningly better with better quality, beleive it or not.
Whootman
05-06-2005, 05:00 PM
Sweet, I can't wait to get it!
nonewdirections
05-06-2005, 05:03 PM
erm, the real disc is over 1400kbps ... CD quality.
cptnhansel
05-06-2005, 05:04 PM
erm, the real disc is over 1400kbps ... CD quality.

I assumed CD quality was 192k... well whatever... CD quality then. Sorry about that.
marlin1805
05-06-2005, 05:07 PM
officially, cd quality is 128 kbps and above ... just fyi
nonewdirections
05-06-2005, 05:07 PM
I assumed CD quality was 192k... well whatever... CD quality then. Sorry about that.

:) it's all good. actually 192kbps is just a medium quality lossy mp3. you can rip mp3s up to 320kbps with normal software. if you want to hear something ripped at the highest quality, rip things in WAV or other lossless forms. obviously that takes up a lot more disc space than mp3s, however.
nonewdirections
05-06-2005, 05:08 PM
officially, cd quality is 128 kbps and above ... just fyi

not really. listen to an mp3 recording at 128kbps, and the differences between that and an actual CD are easily audible. don't listen to what windows media player and itunes tell you.
marlin1805
05-06-2005, 05:12 PM
not really. listen to an mp3 recording at 128kbps, and the differences between that and an actual CD are easily audible. don't listen to what windows media player and itunes tell you.

I never said that there weren't differences, all I'm saying is that the term "cd quality" refers to 128 kbps and above. My radio station has introduced me to all of the elements of cd quality (128,192...) and from all of the reading i've done on it in regards to my broadcast, 128k and above is considered cd quality. Whatever though, honestly it doesn't really matter I guess. :)
sdaltons
05-06-2005, 05:14 PM
not really. listen to an mp3 recording at 128kbps, and the differences between that and an actual CD are easily audible. don't listen to what windows media player and itunes tell you.

Ollie - from the size of your rep points, it appears that you "did not do steroids with Jose Canseco." I am looking for some confirmation on this. Did you, or did you not, do steroids with Jose? Thank you.
nonewdirections
05-06-2005, 05:15 PM
Ollie - from the size of your rep points, it appears that you "did not do steroids with Jose Canseco." I am looking for some confirmation on this. Did you, or did you not, do steroids with Jose? Thank you.

I will let my reputation (box) speak for itself.
sdaltons
05-06-2005, 05:16 PM
I will let my reputation (box) speak for itself.

So that's a "no" then? I must say, I'm a little disappointed.
nonewdirections
05-06-2005, 05:17 PM
So that's a "no" then? I must say, I'm a little disappointed.

:lol :)
sdaltons
05-06-2005, 05:19 PM
:lol :)

If I'm ever gonna get that high, I can assure you that it will take some help from Jose. But I'll deny everything, because I never like to talk about the past.
downbythebayou
05-06-2005, 11:12 PM
i got the album today, its is amazing sounds quality, listen to it in headphones, its a musical journey. a journey...a trip
ryguy178
05-06-2005, 11:21 PM
Ollie - from the size of your rep points, it appears that you "did not do steroids with Jose Canseco." I am looking for some confirmation on this. Did you, or did you not, do steroids with Jose? Thank you.

I can most definately tell you, Ollie DID indeed do steroids with Jose Canseco, I even saw him inject the needle into his buttocks. You can believe me, because well, I'm in Paris Hilton's sidekick.
nonewdirections
05-06-2005, 11:32 PM
I can most definately tell you, Ollie DID indeed do steroids with Jose Canseco, I even saw him inject the needle into his buttocks. You can believe me, because well, I'm in Paris Hilton's sidekick.

shhhh! :o
dmbkristin
05-06-2005, 11:37 PM
Obviously, everything is much clearer, and the listening experience is MUCH more enjoyable.
I agree. :thumbsup
OCMarsh
05-07-2005, 12:03 AM
So you people that have the album, didn't it come with the bonus disc?

If so... TELL US ABOUT THE BONUS SONGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ryguy178
05-07-2005, 12:14 AM
So you people that have the album, didn't it come with the bonus disc?

If so... TELL US ABOUT THE BONUS SONGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, the bonus disc only comes with the pre-orders from MusicToday...which won't arrive till at earliest of Monday. What everyone bought today was just the audio-cd that small record stores got in stock.
rncarter21
05-07-2005, 12:16 AM
So you people that have the album, didn't it come with the bonus disc?

If so... TELL US ABOUT THE BONUS SONGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


uh.......calm down there bucko because we did not get the Warehouse cd yet. We will not be getting that until Tuesday or so. ;) This is just the album without anything special like the B tracks.
knucks32
05-07-2005, 12:16 AM
No, the bonus disc only comes with the pre-orders from MusicToday...which won't arrive till at earliest of Monday. What everyone bought today was just the audio-cd that small record stores got in stock.

i just got an email from musictoday telling me my order was shipped. i cant wait to listen to it without this horseshit streaming audio.
OCMarsh
05-07-2005, 12:20 AM
oh..
ryguy178
05-07-2005, 12:31 AM
oh..

stupidhead.
OCMarsh
05-07-2005, 12:33 AM
I'm excitable, what can I say
chrisandiego
05-07-2005, 01:24 AM
Listening to some 192k tracks now...HUGE difference. The album is that much more alive, and I'm quite impressed with how deep and full this album sounds.
jaird
05-07-2005, 04:04 AM
i found it weird that a really bad harmony in dreamgirl seemed to dissapear with the higher quality one, which is nice. but to say the drums don't sound electronic still? pass me some of whatever ur drinking, it must be powerful stuff.
cptnhansel
05-07-2005, 10:17 AM
i found it weird that a really bad harmony in dreamgirl seemed to dissapear with the higher quality one, which is nice. but to say the drums don't sound electronic still? pass me some of whatever ur drinking, it must be powerful stuff.

It sounds more echoey to me... on MOST of the songs, it sounds natural.
goochylittlepig
05-07-2005, 11:56 AM
officially, cd quality is 128 kbps and above ... just fyi
um, based on what, the crappy mp3 rips people make of them?
goochylittlepig
05-07-2005, 12:03 PM
I agree. :thumbsup
i got a 192kbps mp3 rip of the cd the other day, and it sounded a lot better. im still waiting for monday for the real cd, also to see if the dvd-audio whatever stuff works and sounds better with 5.1 speakers. more importantly is that bonus disc. ive been waiting a year to hear joy ride with real words.