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Dancing Ants
06-01-2005, 02:30 PM
I'm thinking about getting some medium sized speakers to help get my guitar a little louder in the mix of drums and bass. I'm the only guitar in this jam group I have going, and while my 40watt Fender Hot Rod Deluxe is loud, I can't get it to get loud enough with a clean sound. How much do speakers cost, and how would I plug them up to an amp?
I'm looking at some JBL brand speakers from this site:
http://jbl.com/home/products/default.asp
but don't know which ones to get...the in wall/outdoor speakers? Any help would be great, and if you could offer a solution other than buying speakers, I'd love to hear it.
Thanks guys.
Speakers won't work the way you want. You'll need either to go through the PA (micing the amp is the usual method) or get a bigger amp. You really can't go amp->speakers- speakers generally aren't engineered for that.
Dancing Ants
06-01-2005, 03:34 PM
oh ok. hmm....i don't know what to do now. i can't afford a new amp.
Dancing Ants
06-01-2005, 03:41 PM
http://www.epicdimensions.com/moregifs/Jerry80gear.jpg
he has some speakers set up there. what's different than what I want to do?
Looks like a cabinet, but see how they're miced? It's still going through the PA. They're also probably prohibitively expensive.
Dancing Ants
06-01-2005, 03:43 PM
how about a Volume pedal, rob? might that help?
i'm sure that would be extremely expensive. i didn't realize they were mic'd anyway.
Volume pedals generally don't amplify- they clean, equalize, and cut the signal. Does your band have a PA at all? If not, do you plug into a PA?
Do you have AIM? It might be easier to chat about this. I'm on SocrManiac at the moment.
Dancing Ants
06-01-2005, 04:14 PM
i'm about to head to work, but i'll try to catch you on AIM sometime.
no we don't have a PA. I have a 40 watt amp, which is usually really loud, but this guy's drums are pretty powerful. the bassist has a 40-45 watt bass amp, and we mix pretty well. I think the acoustics in our drummer's garage are just crap.
JHacker
06-01-2005, 07:21 PM
Why don't you get a 4 speaker cabinet and plug your amp into that...then you'll have 5 or 6 speakers...depending on if your amp has 1 or 2. Behringer cabinets are really cheap...but i'm not sure how good they are.
Dancing Ants
06-01-2005, 09:19 PM
where can i find a 4 speaker cabinet? I've got a 1 speaker amp.
Musician's Friend is, well, your friend, at least for research, if not purchases.
JHacker
06-01-2005, 10:02 PM
You said you didn't have that much money for a new amp so I think this is your solution right here. The only thing you wanna check on is that this will increase your volume. I'm pretty sure it will because you're adding speakers, but since you're using the same power source i'm not 100% sure. Here's the link:
http://www.music123.com/Behringer-BG412V-i156891.music
See, here's the thing- your amp is producing your sound. It's processing the signal and through the configuration of the speaker creates the sound you get. When you go out to a speaker, you aren't getting the same sound. If you want to keep your amp's sound, but augment it, you need to mic it. If you start going through speakers, there's no point in having an amp.
JHacker
06-01-2005, 11:01 PM
What I was suggesting was plugging his amp into the cabinet through the output on his amp. Not directly into the speakers from his guitar. If he connects the cabinet through his amp, the sounds from his amp will come out of the speakers.
No, the sounds from the amp will not come from the speakers by using the amp's output. Amps use special speaker arrangement, box shapes, etc, to achieve their sound. Otherwise, they'd just be a basic mixer.
JHacker
06-02-2005, 12:11 AM
Yes, Rob, they will. I used my output on my Marshall MG100 directly into my Mbox and I got the direct output sounds of my amp. The output from the amp is not just a signal. It's a representation of the amp. You say he should mic it, and I agree 100%. But he can't afford a PA system so buying a cabinet is a feasible option. How do you think a head into a cabinet works? Output from the head into the cabinet produces the sounds from the head. Same thing here. The output of a combo amp is the samething as an output from an amp head.
Dancing Ants
06-06-2005, 02:27 AM
what exactly does a pre-amp do?
conrad123
06-06-2005, 02:40 AM
As I understand it, a pre-amp amplifies a signal to a line level before sending off the signal to the power amp which would amplify it enough to drive a speaker.
It's also usually a different class of amp as well. A pre-amp usually uses a Class A amp for 100% re-production of the signal and a poweramp will generally use a Class B or Class B/C amp which don't have 100% reproduction but have a greater efficiency.
Dancing Ants
06-06-2005, 02:51 AM
hmm. i'm thinkin of gettin' one, but don't know if i'd actually need it or not.
Dancing Ants
06-12-2005, 03:05 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=47094&item=7329727386&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
say i bought two of those. where could I find a cabinet to fit them, and what else would I need?
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