Pittsburgh Steelers

[il bacio dolce]

First preseason game tonight. I believe 8pm, ESPN. Who's watching?

[absltcit33]

I will be attending.

[dh4645]

hopefully us eagles get to beat you guys in the super bowl this year

[hunter4268]

I say Steelers 36








































Eagles 7

:evil

GO STEELERS

[devilray223]

Here We Go Steelers Here We Go!

[dmbmuskie]

I can't wait for tonight. I think it is on KDKA as well as ESPN, so we can see the game with our annocers. It will be very different without Myron in the booth, and I'm sure you'll see a lot less transister radios in the stadium without him on the air. I don't think I've ever been so fired up for a meaningless game in my life. Let's hope no one else manages to get hurt tonight.

[dmbmuskie]

It's on WTAE not KDKA.

[dh4645]

fly eagles fly!!!

is that a gay song or what? the eagles are my team and have been since the cunningham days, but man that song is annoying.

[Alazais]

Pffft. It's all about the 49ers!

[Steelers36]

It should be on ESPN nationally tonight and I can't wait for the season to start. I wish Hines and the Steelers would come to an agreement before the start of the regular season, they've got a great chance of winning it all this year.

Fuck the Bengals.

[dmbmuskie]

I think they will definitely come to an agreement, but they key is not screwing us over for the next 5-7 years because of it. Hines is NOT an elite reciever like TO or Moss, but I think he is every bit as talented as Harrison who signed a monster deal. The Rooney's dug their own grave when they said he was their top priority.

[absltcit33]

I think they will definitely come to an agreement, but they key is not screwing us over for the next 5-7 years because of it. Hines is NOT an elite reciever like TO or Moss, but I think he is every bit as talented as Harrison who signed a monster deal. The Rooney's dug their own grave when they said he was their top priority.

I live about 2 mins from crosby's new home

[dmbmuskie]

I live about 2 mins from crosby's new home

I thought he was living with Mario.

[absltcit33]

I thought he was living with Mario.

he is, i live about 2 mins from mario's house

[dmbmuskie]

gotcha

[dmbcrazy4041]

I like the Steelers, but only because of the Bus.

[Bswartz95]

I like the Steelers, but only because of the Bus.

Bettis was the secret weapon in fantasy football last year. He would have 10 yards, but score 3 TD's. :freak
Used in short yardage at the goal line.

[dmbcrazy4041]

Bettis was the secret weapon in fantasy football last year. He would have 10 yards, but score 3 TD's. :freak
Used in short yardage at the goal line.

I had him myself:) I don't see him doing that this year, but it is possible:)

[il bacio dolce]

I can't wait for tonight. I think it is on KDKA as well as ESPN, so we can see the game with our annocers. It will be very different without Myron in the booth, and I'm sure you'll see a lot less transister radios in the stadium without him on the air. I don't think I've ever been so fired up for a meaningless game in my life. Let's hope no one else manages to get hurt tonight.
I was talking with a couple people last night at work about the game. My friend said her dad would always put the game on TV, but mute it and put on the radio because Myron did it better.

[dmbmuskie]

We got Hines it seems. Funny how this started today and we got him. No one will ever be better than Myron. Watching the games just won't be the same without Myron. I'll probaly still listen to the radio tonight depending on who is announcing the game.

[uneverknow14]

yeah, im watching...watching fuckin mcnabb throw an interception on the first play this year...jackass :BANG

well anyway...go eagles!

[dune]

2 touchdowns before the offense has taken the field

[Bswartz95]

2 touchdowns before the offense has taken the field

What were the scoring plays? I just turned it on and it's already 14-0. Damn

[dmb_3641]

Ahhh...Steelers football. My day is complete.

[dune]

they intercepted and ran it back on the first play and then a punt return for a TD

[rochny89]

The Eagles are screwed this year...and this game has made me aware of it

[brendangen412]

Giants!! But i hope the steelers kick those eagles pussy asses

[dmb_3641]

god...they sure are kicking ass!! GO STILLERS!!!

[mikedevoss6]

Note to self: Get Steelers Defense in Fantasy Football league

[dmbmuskie]

The boys looked good last night. If Couclough ever figures out what he is doing on defense he is going to be amazing because he is scary fast. He closed and blew by Ike so fast on the kick return to block it was unreal. I got a great feeling about the year.

[cbsauder]

good first half last night, which is what matters. im so ready for football season.

i went to training camp last thursday, it was really cool getting to see the players up close. if you get a chance to go to training camp, its well worth the blazing heat to watch them.

[jfolden]

I would never put any faith in a preseason game. Too many times in the NFL I've seen a team look great in the preseason and end up like 5-11 in the regular season.

[cbsauder]

yea just look at last year's steelers. i think they went 2-2 or maybe even 1-3 in the preseason, and ended up going 15-1. preseason is just practice, and usually tells a team nothing about what their regular season win total will be.

[il bacio dolce]

Note to self: Get Steelers Defense in Fantasy Football league
Do you really think they have an outstanding defense? I didn't watch the game last night, per se, but I was in the car with the radio on during the first quarter, checked up on the score at half time in the middle of watching a movie and then put the game on TV muted for the last 20 minutes or so while reading. So I do know the Steelers got well ahead early and stayed ahead, but it was far from a close-out. The impression I got was that they are so-so on defense, and although their offense made up for it in this game, they may not always have such luck.

I really have to start watching games and figuring out what happens. :lol

[dmbmuskie]

It's not so much about evaluating the team, but individuals in the preseason. The players who there are questions about seemed to perform well such as Foote, Starks, Ike, etc. The defenses is impossible to evaluate because the scheme is so watered down, so they don't show anything to the rest of the league. I think the defense should be good because of the depth and the fact that everyone is back. Last year I was shitting my pants when we had Harrison, Hoke, Willie Williams and Stuvantis on the field, but they performed great and are proven commodities this year. As long as someone fills in for Chad Scott they should be fine. Last year they seemed to use whoever was playing the least bad at the 3rd corner spot when he was hurt, and that might be there only hole.

[dmbmuskie]

I'm topping this. There has to be more citizens of Steeler Nation out there.

[hunter4268]

Just topping, GO STEELERS.


F#@$ the Bengals

:evil

[absltcit33]

gibson had such a monster hit on monday

[come&dancew/me]

:bounce :bounce I am! I am! And get this: my bf is from Sandusky, which means - yep, you guessed it - he's a brownie fan. :lorraine

I'm topping this. There has to be more citizens of Steeler Nation out there.

[Crawdaddye]

Games I am going to this season:
Home opener Vs. Titans
Green Bay game at Lambeau :thumbsup
Ravens game in Baltimore.

[come&dancew/me]

Thus far, I don't have any tix. But I'll probably snag a pair for at least one home game. On the positive side, I can hear Heinz Field from where I live!

Games I am going to this season:
Home opener Vs. Titans
Green Bay game at Lambeau :thumbsup
Ravens game in Baltimore.

[cbsauder]

yea i keep trying to get my dad to call this broker he knows, we got tix last year for $150
apiece, which is good for 30 rows up. i cant find any lower level tickets online for less than 200 apiece, and those aren't even close to the location ours were.

[dmbmuskie]

I can't believe the 2nd game is tonight. It seems like we played just the other night.

[nursejo98]

We're going to the 10/31 Ravens game and the 11/13 Browns game (if I'm not in labor by then!!)

I was never a fan of the NFL until I moved to Pittsburgh (I'm originally from the Omaha, NE area and I'm a big Cornhusker fan!) I can't wait for regular season to start! As "yinz" say in "da Burgh"....Go STILLERS!

[cbsauder]

well the offense didnt look so good last night, but eh the steelers are a defensive team anywayl. and its only the second preseason game.

[dmbmuskie]

Ben just needs to realize that he has a gun, and that he doesn't have to lob every throw in there. I understand there is a time to throw the lob, but a strong accuarate throw will more often than not get the job done. The ball Wilson maybe should have caught and the interception were both lobbed when there was no reason. I think all the kinks will work themselves out, but I wish we had someone to stretch the field. They're going to have some tough decisions on the roster to make. I think they have about 60 guys deserving of a roster spot.

[Steelers36]

I don't put too much stock into a preseason game, especially for the first team. They only play one quarter and aren't trying to earn a spot on the team, so they just move the ball a little with nothing to lose. Very seldomly does the starting QB throw a touchdown pass in every preseason game. Ben will be fine as will all the offensive and defensive players. The Steelers will still be great this year no matter how their preseason record is.

They look pretty deep at wide receiver so far, which is always a good thing, however the starting linebackers and Harrison look great, but everyone after that is questionable. Willie Parker has really stepped up big this season and could push for the third spot on the depth chart over Haynes. I wouldn't be opposed to trading Maddox or Batch to Chicago or San Fran to gain either a draft pick or a possible RG or LB.

[dmbmuskie]

I don't put too much stock into a preseason game, especially for the first team. They only play one quarter and aren't trying to earn a spot on the team, so they just move the ball a little with nothing to lose. Very seldomly does the starting QB throw a touchdown pass in every preseason game. Ben will be fine as will all the offensive and defensive players. The Steelers will still be great this year no matter how their preseason record is.

They look pretty deep at wide receiver so far, which is always a good thing, however the starting linebackers and Harrison look great, but everyone after that is questionable. Willie Parker has really stepped up big this season and could push for the third spot on the depth chart over Haynes. I wouldn't be opposed to trading Maddox or Batch to Chicago or San Fran to gain either a draft pick or a possible RG or LB.

I think Parker has blown by Haynes on the depeth chart from what I saw last night. He played in some normal Steeler running sets rather than plays that seemed designed specifically for him. Haynes fumbled and dropped a pass. Haynes is really going to struggle making this team I think, but Cowher and Colbert have made some questiobale personel moves in the past, so who knows how it will play out. As crazy as it sounds I think Deuce could go because if you look at his past he probaly won't play much this year no matter how minor the surgury was, he''ll be over 30 at the end of next year, and any back can run behind the best line in football which it looks like we have again this year. Trading Maddox would be a big mistake because he is cheap and talented which hardly ever go together in the NFL. If they were building towards a Super Bowl it would make sense, but they are one of the favorites. I think Batch is a good quarterback, but I have more faith in Maddox getting us there if something would happen to Ben.

[SteelerMan]

A few thoughts I've gathered from the preseason games so far...


I'm still a little worried about our starting offense. I haven't been incredibly impressed with anything I've seen yet.
The starting defense looks VERY solid. We're definitely loaded at linebacker.
Nate Washington impressed me a lot with his speed.
Fred Gibson impressed me with his athleticism (and that monstrous block against the Eagles), but he still looks very, very raw. I think he has a lot of potential though.
Brian St. Pierre should be the 3rd QB. I feel bad for Charlie Batch, but in my opinion St. Pierre is definitely the better of the two.
We're loaded at running back. Of course we've got The Bus and Duce, but Willie Parker, Verron Haynes, and Herring all looked great too. I especially like Willie Parker. The change of pace he provides reminds me of when we had Amos. It's sad that not all of these guys will make the team.

[dmbmuskie]

I think Washington is a good reciever, but I think his size will hurt his chances from making the team. Our top 3 recievers are awful small which really hurts in the redzone. Mays isn't great, but he's a big target who the organization seems to really like. I think he'll be the 4th reciever if he ever gets healthy. We have good depth, and I don't think any of the options are a bad choice at this point.

[Steelers36]

A few thoughts I've gathered from the preseason games so far...


I'm still a little worried about our starting offense. I haven't been incredibly impressed with anything I've seen yet.


I don't think that there is anything to be worried about, in the first game they only got 10 plays and last saturday it was adjusting to Ward coming back and Wilson changing routes. They timing will come in time for the season.

[SteelerMan]

I think Washington is a good reciever, but I think his size will hurt his chances from making the team. Our top 3 recievers are awful small which really hurts in the redzone. Mays isn't great, but he's a big target who the organization seems to really like. I think he'll be the 4th reciever if he ever gets healthy. We have good depth, and I don't think any of the options are a bad choice at this point.

I have a feeling we may lose Randle El to free agency at the end of the season... you think Washington might solve some of our problems in the speedy receiver department? I haven't seen a whole lot of him, but what I have seen I've liked a lot.

[joepsu0985]

Its about time yins guyz got a stillers thread....But anyway the offense needs to step it up a notch. The deffense is playing good.

[dmbmuskie]

I have a feeling we may lose Randle El to free agency at the end of the season... you think Washington might solve some of our problems in the speedy receiver department? I haven't seen a whole lot of him, but what I have seen I've liked a lot.

I think Randle EL is definitely gone in my opinion. I like him, but I think someone will throw a lot of money his way, which we're not going to have. Stashing Washington on the practice squad is my hope, but I think someone will pick him up if he's optioned there.

I'm kind of surprised we did the Hampton contracy before Hines. It seems to me that despite all the team says they might not be that committed to Hines which worries me.

[SteelerMan]

I think Randle EL is definitely gone in my opinion. I like him, but I think someone will throw a lot of money his way, which we're not going to have. Stashing Washington on the practice squad is my hope, but I think someone will pick him up if he's optioned there.

I'm kind of surprised we did the Hampton contracy before Hines. It seems to me that despite all the team says they might not be that committed to Hines which worries me.

Yeah, I think the entire Hines situation gave the team a blackeye. When you make promises to a player regarding a contract and then don't follow through, the whole league takes notice. I wouldn't be surprised if this costs us a free agent or two in the future.

I don't think Randle El is worth the money I'm sure he'll be asking for after this season. Yes, he has some nice moves, but as a kick/punt returner he tried to do too much by himself and would usually run around about 15 yards only to pick up 5. As a receiver, he has proven to be a decent 3rd option but not much else. Unless he improves a lot as a receiver this season, I won't be that sad to see him go.

[dmbmuskie]

Yeah, I think the entire Hines situation gave the team a blackeye. When you make promises to a player regarding a contract and then don't follow through, the whole league takes notice. I wouldn't be surprised if this costs us a free agent or two in the future.

I don't think Randle El is worth the money I'm sure he'll be asking for after this season. Yes, he has some nice moves, but as a kick/punt returner he tried to do too much by himself and would usually run around about 15 yards only to pick up 5. As a receiver, he has proven to be a decent 3rd option but not much else. Unless he improves a lot as a receiver this season, I won't be that sad to see him go.

Unless I'm missing something have we signed a Free Agent worth while other than Hartings in a long time? I'm including Duce because he was hurt before we signed him, and will probaly be hurt as long as he is with us.

I think we have a great ability to pull players late in the draft or in rookie FA that make an impact, yet we seem to contiually struggle with the 2nd round since Marvel and Kendrell, he was hurt all the time too, but he didn't have the reputation that Staley had when we picked him up. El falls into that catagory it seems. We ALWAYS reach with this pick. El, Jackson, and Couclough were all reaches in my opinion. Two of them had to pick up a new position and, 1 had to adjust to a much higher level of play coming from Tusculum. McFadden seems to ba a good pick, but it is so early I won't make any definitive judgements. I just don't understand why we can't hit on an everydown player with this pick.

[LovingWings4DMB]

I just found this thread and I am so glad I did! I am very excited for this season. Hines has always been my favorite...even when everyone else doubted him! I am hoping to go the Ravens game on Oct 31. My 2 best friends live in Baltimore and we are all big steeler fans. They take so much crap from people down there! haha

[dmbmuskie]

Is the game on tonight on one of the local channels? l looked everywhere, and the NFL network was the only place I found football tonight, and that was going to be the sort of thing where they cover all the games at once.

[LovingWings4DMB]

yes, it will be on channel 11 tonight...WPXI i think?

[Crawdaddye]

Going to the game tonight to represent the Black and Gold. My buddy at work hit me up with 2 clubs seats and a parking pass for $40. Can't beat that!

I'll be driving to the 'Burgh for the home opener in a few weeks as well. Having an Uncle with season tickets is a godsend. :)

[dmbmuskie]

yes, it will be on channel 11 tonight...WPXI i think?

It would seem odd to have a game on NBC, but you might be right. Thanks for the heads up. :thumbsup

[dmbmuskie]

Apparently, the game is on FOX 53. I'm guessing it is a national televised game.

[il bacio dolce]

Yay.

[dmbmuskie]

I'm officialy worried after last night.

[cbsauder]

here we go steelers, here we go.

[dmbmuskie]

I can't think of a better possible game for the Steelers to have played today. I love that we are still under the radar despite the fact that we have won 15 regualr season games in a row. They just kicked the Titans asses all over the field. I've gotten to the point where I don't pay attention to the defense until the ball gets to about the 30. They just flip a switch and they are a totally different unit. Hopefully, Cowher sticks with Willie. It might have been a fluke today, but we won't know until he's racked up 200 carries this year how to judge him. The same goes for Ike. One of the kids needed to step up this year, and I think it could be him. I think he is the most physically gifted of the trio. Frazier surprised me. I knew he was a tremendous athlete, but I didn't think he had the football ability he showed today. We may have found another undrafted gem. I've got more to say, but I'm done. Here we go Steelers, here we go!!!!!

[cbsauder]

yea i dont understand why analysts are picking the ravens to win the division; kyle boller hasn't proved anything to anyone. willie parker was a machine today, and even if he doesnt start when the other 2 backs are healthy, he's still a damn good backup. Roethlisberger definitely didn't play like a sophomore slumping today. ah winning is so nice.

[dmbmuskie]

I understand why they are picking the Ravens, and I think they will have a good year if Lewis stays healthy. The 2 teams are very similiar, but I think we are just too deep to be hurt by injuries in most places. I just cannot see them being better than the Steelers. Ben looked nothing like the guy wearing #7 this preseason. Boller could improve, but would still be a long way behind Ben. I also think we are a more physical team than the Ravens. They should both be playoff teams.

[LovingWings4DMB]

i missed most of the game cause i was at work. but i kept getting updates. i'm so proud to call myself a fan! haha

[SteelerMan]

They nearly played a perfect game yesterday. I was a little nervous after McNair marched them down the field on that opening drive (considering McNair used to pretty much own the Steelers), but Big Ben and Willie put my fears to rest rather quickly. If Willie Parker keeps this up, I wouldn't be surprised if he keeps the starting job even after Duce and The Bus get healthy.

[mikedevoss6]

My brother and dad are big steelers fans. Hell of a game they played yesterday.

Too bad I can't say the same for my Vikes...

[Evans]

As a Ravens fan, I hate to say it but the Steelers don't have to be to-to worried this season...As much as I love the Ravens, Billick has to prove to the fans why he stubbornly sticks with Boller. Boller needs to prove why he even belongs in that position (which he doesn't imo). The Ravens are like a luxury sports car just sitting in a garage with noone to drive them. I could be wrong though, we did win a Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer at the helm...though Dilfer was better at making the clutch plays and the D was on fire.

[dmbgodagirl41]

hopefully us eagles get to beat you guys in the super bowl this year

funniest thing I have read in a really long time :lol

[cbsauder]

As a Ravens fan, I hate to say it but the Steelers don't have to be to-to worried this season...As much as I love the Ravens, Billick has to prove to the fans why he stubbornly sticks with Boller. Boller needs to prove why he even belongs in that position (which he doesn't imo). The Ravens are like a luxury sports car just sitting in a garage with noone to drive them. I could be wrong though, we did win a Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer at the helm...though Dilfer was better at making the clutch plays and the D was on fire.
how long has boller been a raven now? well however long that may be, i think billick is an idiot for sticking with him this long.

[SteelerMan]

funniest thing I have read in a really long time :lol

Fuck the Patriots. :thumbsdow

Unless you meant the Eagles winning the Super Bowl was funny... in that case :lol .

[dmbgodagirl41]

Fuck the Patriots. :thumbsdow

Unless you meant the Eagles winning the Super Bowl was funny... in that case :lol .

oh man, what is that i taste? hmm i cant put my finger on it..
...ah yes, sour grapes :D

Give it up. I mean, who does Benny boy think he is, Tom Brady? I mean really ;)
although, nice running game this weekend by the bumble bee team. And without the bus. Very nice.

[dmbmuskie]

As a Ravens fan, I hate to say it but the Steelers don't have to be to-to worried this season...As much as I love the Ravens, Billick has to prove to the fans why he stubbornly sticks with Boller. Boller needs to prove why he even belongs in that position (which he doesn't imo). The Ravens are like a luxury sports car just sitting in a garage with noone to drive them. I could be wrong though, we did win a Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer at the helm...though Dilfer was better at making the clutch plays and the D was on fire.

I watched the entire game last night, and I actually almost feel bad for Baltimore. The defense is supremely talented, but they just have no hope because of the ineptitude on the other side of the ball. In my opinion they were playing great, but it seemed like frustrattion and fatigue set in on them and all hell broke loose. I have to believe that last night will be the worst game you will play on offense, so I'm still going to worry about you guys.

[SteelerMan]

oh man, what is that i taste? hmm i cant put my finger on it..
...ah yes, sour grapes :D

Give it up. I mean, who does Benny boy think he is, Tom Brady? I mean really ;)
although, nice running game this weekend by the bumble bee team. And without the bus. Very nice.

I think this could be the Steelers year. I'll agree, people are overlooking the Patriots, but I think the Steelers are a better team than they were a year ago.

If it's any consolation, I despise the Ravens infinitely more than the Patsies.

[dmbmuskie]

oh man, what is that i taste? hmm i cant put my finger on it..
...ah yes, sour grapes :D

Give it up. I mean, who does Benny boy think he is, Tom Brady? I mean really ;)
although, nice running game this weekend by the bumble bee team. And without the bus. Very nice.

I FUCKING HATE the Patriots. My little brother is a Patriots fan, and it drives my whole family nuts. I have to believe you're run is up unless you sure up your run defense. However, I think the biggest problem you have is that your best weapon is currenltly coaching ND.

On a side note. I have to pick up my parents at the airport the day of our game. I might pay for a limo to go get them.

[dmbgodagirl41]

I think this could be the Steelers year. I'll agree, people are overlooking the Patriots, but I think the Steelers are a better team than they were a year ago.

If it's any consolation, I despise the Ravens infinitely more than the Patsies.

this year is seriously like 8 teams' potential year---NO ONE has it in the bag. Okay, okay, im pretty sure it ISN'T Arizona's year, but whatever ;) And yeah, the Steelers probably are better, but then again, so is pretty much every team in the NFL....

Hey, you can't hate the Ravens...you have to at least like them to laugh at them. During last night's game, my boyfriend and I kept just saying crap like "awww the drug dealer sucked on that one" or "the Gebco dude totally dropped it"...or our favorite:
Tom: Why is Ray Lewis so FAST?!
Me: Cuz he's used to running from the cops trying to arrest him for murder.

ahhhh good times laughing at a ghetto-ass team.

[dmbmuskie]

The Ravens really don't bother me b/c the don't beat us when it counts. The Patriots do.

[dmbgodagirl41]

I FUCKING HATE the Patriots. My little brother is a Patriots fan, and it drives my whole family nuts. I have to believe you're run is up unless you sure up your run defense. However, I think the biggest problem you have is that your best weapon is currenltly coaching ND.

On a side note. I have to pick up my parents at the airport the day of our game. I might pay for a limo to go get them.

Yeah, that's why they beat Oakland and "the unstoppable Randy Moss". :rolleyes

Seriously, how do you hate the pats? No one on that team is a jackass. People just hate the pats because they win, no-names step it up and get it done when they aren't supposed to, and there is no show-man "hey look at me im a complete asshole cocky douchebag who should be considered the team's superstar" on the team.

The only thing ppl should hate about the Pats are the fans. Man, we are ASSHOLES. But for good reason. In the age of dynasty prevention in the NFL and you win 3 of 4, you have a right to be assholes. We've suffered through DECADES of defeat. Someone will eventually get their time, too.

[Evans]

I watched the entire game last night, and I actually almost feel bad for Baltimore. The defense is supremely talented, but they just have no hope because of the ineptitude on the other side of the ball. In my opinion they were playing great, but it seemed like frustrattion and fatigue set in on them and all hell broke loose. I have to believe that last night will be the worst game you will play on offense, so I'm still going to worry about you guys.

Last night had to be a shot to the morale on the defense. They worked so hard, but alot of their efforts were either wasted by costly penalities or the three missed field goals. You can't beat a team like Indy when you are playing like that.

[Evans]

Yeah, that's why they beat Oakland and "the unstoppable Randy Moss". :rolleyes

Seriously, how do you hate the pats? No one on that team is a jackass. People just hate the pats because they win, no-names step it up and get it done when they aren't supposed to, and there is no show-man "hey look at me im a complete asshole cocky douchebag who should be considered the team's superstar" on the team.

The only thing ppl should hate about the Pats are the fans. Man, we are ASSHOLES. But for good reason. In the age of dynasty prevention in the NFL and you win 3 of 4, you have a right to be assholes. We've suffered through DECADES of defeat. Someone will eventually get their time, too.

I like the Pats, I admire what they have done. A very tough achievement in football. I was definitely rooting for them against the iggles, there is no way I want T.O. to win anything.

[dmbgodagirl41]

I like the Pats, I admire what they have done. A very tough achievement in football. I was definitely rooting for them against the iggles, there is no way I want T.O. to win anything.

I HATE T.O. so big :thumbsup to you

[whomhead]

[QUOTE=dmbmuskie]However, I think the biggest problem you have is that your best weapon is currenltly coaching ND.
QUOTE]

Yes, and that is the reason the Pats have become one of new favorites! Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!!!

Anyway, on topic- The Steelers looked great yesterday, very impressive. My Vikings, on the other hand, OUCH!

[dmbgodagirl41]

Anyway, on topic- The Steelers looked great yesterday, very impressive. My Vikings, on the other hand, OUCH!
well, you should have known about that--w/out randy moss, people are going to see that culpepper is actually, um, not that good....

[whomhead]

well, you should have known about that--w/out randy moss, people are going to see that culpepper is actually, um, not that good....

I agree to some extent, but you gotta remember, he threw about 4,000 "non-Randy" yards and 25 "non-Randy" TDs last year. Burleson is a stud receiver and picking up Koren Robinson should help. I'm not ready to write him off just yet. That being said, yesterday was just plain ugly. But hey, the Packers lost badly too, so its all good.

[dmbgodagirl41]

I agree to some extent, but you gotta remember, he threw about 4,000 "non-Randy" yards and 25 "non-Randy" TDs last year. Burleson is a stud receiver and picking up Koren Robinson should help. I'm not ready to write him off just yet. That being said, yesterday was just plain ugly. But hey, the Packers lost badly too, so its all good.

i mean, he's not BAD, I just don't get why so many people say he's in the top 5....

[dmbmuskie]

I think Culpeper just had a bad day. It happens to everyone. Brady against Miami last year was ugly. Ben was bad in the playoffs. Dante was bad yesterday, but so was Pennington, Brees, etc.

[dmbgodagirl41]

I think Culpeper just had a bad day. It happens to everyone. Brady against Miami last year was ugly. Ben was bad in the playoffs. Dante was bad yesterday, but so was Pennington, Brees, etc.
:lol chad pennington. He's just horrible period.

[Minarets19]

yest. game, as a Titans fan was downright depressing. it was single handedly the wort tackling pro football game i have ever seen--in regards to the Titans. i was embarassed. i cannot wait to see the Jeff Fisher show tonight to see what he has to say.

yes we are the youngest team 2 years ina row, yadda yadda...i want to hear why we refuse to tackle

the first drive was extremely promising. i thought we had a chance.
what shocked was the end stats. if you looked at the stats everything but rushin was pretty even.

passing yard, TOP...the 2 biigest things was TO, and lack of effort to stop the run.

Henry's fumble on the 50yrd line led to a TD. DrewBennett coughing it up on the 12 yrd line (could have been 17-14 if we score there)...the 3rd TO was just salt on the wounds...we were out fo it by then anyway....same for the 4th

[dmbmuskie]

I'm not saying that the Titans tackled well, but it seems like everyone misses Willie. I really hope is as good as it seems from the 2 games he played. Every level of football has the little guys that people take shots at, but they just bounce off of them and keep going. Plus, he gets on you so fast he has to be a pain in the ass to get down.

[LovingWings4DMB]

OH NO! BEN IS INJURED!!! TOMMY MADDOX IS STARTING! This cant be good. Even if Ben just has a bruised knee. WE CANT LOSE!

[SteelerMan]

I'm not too worried about the Texans game. We should win that one with Ben or Maddox starting. What I'm worried about is the long run. If Ben takes the week off and his injury heals quickly (it is just a bruised bone after all), then I think everything will be fine. If this is something that continues to bother him though, they could be in trouble. I have faith that Tommy can get the job done (at least against the Texans anyway).

[whomhead]

i mean, he's not BAD, I just don't get why so many people say he's in the top 5....

Um, top 5? Try top 2 (at least for last season)

If it wasn't for my other favorite QB, Manning, Daunte would have been the MVP. Check his stats- they're solid.

I'm anxious to see #11 bounce back this week.

[Crawdaddye]

I agree that Tommy should be able to put enough points on the board to win, if not the defense will. The Texans O line got worked last week by the Bills defense and I expect more of the same this week.

I also expect Parker to have another big day running behind one of the best O lines in the league. I was at the game last week, and he can flat out fly, he was easily the fastest guy on the field.

[SteelerMan]

I agree that Tommy should be able to put enough points on the board to win, if not the defense will. The Texans O line got worked last week by the Bills defense and I expect more of the same this week.

I also expect Parker to have another big day running behind one of the best O lines in the league. I was at the game last week, and he can flat out fly, he was easily the fastest guy on the field.

Yeah, if the Texans play the way they did last week, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the defense shuts them out this week. They did a decent job of holding McGahee in check last week though, so Willie should have a little more trouble than he did against the Titans.

[SteelerMan]

Just thought I'd make another post to try to get us to the next page faster. I'm sick of seeing that fucking Tom Brady avatar at the top of the page everytime I open up this thread.

[dmbmuskie]

I'm not worried about Ben. It's football and everyone is a little banged up. Maddox could have done what he did against the Titans for the most part. I'm sure he'll be fine against the Texans. I watched the replay of the Texans last game, and the defense was much better than the score would indicate. I think the O turned the ball over 5 times. That is tough for a D to overcome. Andre Johnson is going to be tough for anyone we have to defend, and could singlehandedly keep them in the game. If we stop him it could get real ugly. I'm saying 20-17 Steelers, with a late score from the Texans making it that close.

[dmbmuskie]

Just thought I'd make another post to try to get us to the next page faster. I'm sick of seeing that fucking Tom Brady avatar at the top of the page everytime I open up this thread.

We need to get rid of that fucking shit.

[dmbmuskie]

Now that it is gone I feel like I accomplished something today.

[SteelerMan]

I just read that Ben said he'll be ready for Sunday. I just hope they don't let him play if he really shouldn't be playing.

[dmbmuskie]

I read that too. I really don't care who they play. If a win or loss depends on the play of the quarterback we're probaly in trouble in any game we play. We just need whoever is in there to manage the game and let the O-Line pound the other team into submission. 11 throws is probaly as few as we will see all year, but I don't think we'll throw more than 25 times all year.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Willie Parker is on my fantasy team this week. He better rock it :)

[SteelerMan]

Willie Parker is on my fantasy team this week. He better rock it :)

I'd feel pretty confident about that if I were you. Don't expect numbers like last week though.

[Steelers36]

I'm just worried about a repeat of the last time the Steelers and Texans played with Tommy as the starter. The statistics and score don't make any sense at all. Personally, Id rather see Batch start than Tommy.

[dmbmuskie]

I'm just worried about a repeat of the last time the Steelers and Texans played with Tommy as the starter. The statistics and score don't make any sense at all. Personally, Id rather see Batch start than Tommy.

That was just a weird year of football. That was an NFL record for fewest yards allowed in a loss. Then there was the game against the Falcons where we were up huge, but blew the lead. For some reason I think there were 2 missed field goals in OT, and the game ended with Plex catching a hail mary on the one inch line.

[dmbgodagirl41]

I'd feel pretty confident about that if I were you. Don't expect numbers like last week though.

oh, no, im not expecting what happened last week, but everyone is saying that bettis is going to be in. I really hope not, that guy has square wheels.

I love fantasy football; it makes me cheer for teams I wouldn't normally cheer for. Go Pittsburgh!!

[dmbmuskie]

Willie Parker is on my fantasy team this week. He better rock it :)

I hope he kicks ass in 2 weeks. Will you be playing him then?

[dmbgodagirl41]

I'm just worried about a repeat of the last time the Steelers and Texans played with Tommy as the starter. The statistics and score don't make any sense at all. Personally, Id rather see Batch start than Tommy.

The steelers are going to KILL Houston. I think they will start Benny Boy; no worries.

[dmbgodagirl41]

I hope he kicks ass in 2 weeks. Will you be playing him then?

yeah, I think I'm going to keep willie on unless he totally starts sucking. The guy had like 162 yards in the first HALF. good lord.

i am doing two fantasy...the free gridiron and then the actual fantasy team; both on espn. Both my teams are looking really good. My gridiron one is crazy: Brady, Manning, Parker, Keyshawn, Corey Dillon, Chris Parker, the Indy D, John Carney for my K....I hope all these guys totally pull through.

I missed the draft day for the other one, but my team is starting to look sweet. And because I missed draft day, I get first pick at any players that become free. Yesterday I got Brady, Parker, Keyshawn, Mike Vrabel and McGahee. Yesssss

[dmbmuskie]

oh, no, im not expecting what happened last week, but everyone is saying that bettis is going to be in. I really hope not, that guy has square wheels.

I love fantasy football; it makes me cheer for teams I wouldn't normally cheer for. Go Pittsburgh!!

That is the very reason I hate fantasy football. I refuse to have players on my team from New England, Cincy, Tennessee, Cleveland, or Baltimore. I just cannot do it. I've only had one year with this drafting strategy. I don't see how real fans can root for Corey Dillon or Jamal Lewis.

[dmbmuskie]

You do know we play you in 2 weeks right?

[dmbgodagirl41]

You do know we play you in 2 weeks right?

i have people on carolina for this week. just because i might have a carolina player doesnt mean I think the team isnt going to lose.

one player or a defense can have a GREAT game and get you points, but the team they play for could still lose. just because i pick guys that are playing against my patriots doesn't mean that i want that team to win.

[dmbgodagirl41]

That is the very reason I hate fantasy football. I refuse to have players on my team from New England, Cincy, Tennessee, Cleveland, or Baltimore. I just cannot do it. I've only had one year with this drafting strategy. I don't see how real fans can root for Corey Dillon or Jamal Lewis.

I root for Dillon because he's on my patriots, but they guy is a total jackass. Well, he was when he was on Cinci, but now not so much.

Jamal Lewis is just fun to cheer for because you feel bad for him. Aww the drug dealer did something well. :lol yeah, but he's a drug dealer. oh sorry, TRAFFICKER.

[SteelerMan]

one player or a defense can have a GREAT game and get you points, but the team they play for could still lose. just because i pick guys that are playing against my patriots doesn't mean that i want that team to win.

Yeah, that's how I feel when I start someone against the Steelers.

On the other hand, I try to stay away from drafting certain players, such as Corey Dillon, Jamal Lewis, Ravens D, etc.

[dmbgodagirl41]

We need to get rid of that fucking shit.

thanks for reminding me--i have to change mine back to the other tommy :D

don't deny it, you wanna lick that buttchin of brady's. ;)

[dmbmuskie]

I hate that fucker. I really do. I've never seen anyone be the second best QB in college, and be good in the pros. I'm an OSU fan, so I loved seeing Brady suck in college. I could rant on this for hours, but I won't.

[Noles20]

So will Duce ever see the bulk of the carries again? That's a lot of money to sit on the bench.

[cbsauder]

So will Duce ever see the bulk of the carries again? That's a lot of money to sit on the bench.
haha good question. we'll have to see, because willie parker has a ton of potential.

[Steelers36]

So will Duce ever see the bulk of the carries again? That's a lot of money to sit on the bench.

If Parker can't produce well every week then yes, you'll see Duce back in. However, if he shows that he can be the feature back, then don't expect to see Duce next season in Pittsburgh. Right now Willie is saying "let Duce or Jerome have the job when they are healthy" and Duce and Jerome are saying "keep him in if we are winning." Cowher will have to make the final decision and I think he will just leave Parker in like he did with Ben last season. A lot of Steeler fans think that you need a powerful back to carry the ball, but with the offensive lines ability to open giant wholes, I think that the faster back can hit the whole faster and get more yards.

[LovingWings4DMB]

just wanted to share, tonight JT Thomas came into Starbucks where I work....i almost fell over!

[cbsauder]

just wanted to share, tonight JT Thomas came into Starbucks where I work....i almost fell over!
does this have anything to do with pittsburgh football? you had me really confused for a bit. thinking "im as much of a steeler fan as anyone-but i never heard of a JT thomas wo plays for the steelers."


that being said, my roomate's grandma is gonna hook us up w/ steelers box seats. :hump

[cbsauder]

I watched the entire game last night, and I actually almost feel bad for Baltimore. The defense is supremely talented, but they just have no hope because of the ineptitude on the other side of the ball. In my opinion they were playing great, but it seemed like frustrattion and fatigue set in on them and all hell broke loose. I have to believe that last night will be the worst game you will play on offense, so I'm still going to worry about you guys.
we seelers fans dont ever "feel bad" for anything that happens to the ravens. just clearing that up.

[dmbmuskie]

So will Duce ever see the bulk of the carries again? That's a lot of money to sit on the bench.

I think you'll see a three headed monster playing the postion. Once Jerome is healthy, he'll play inside the 5. Deuce is going to be the 3rd down back, and we utilize that position a lot. I think Willie won't be able to carry the load the whole year just because he has never had to take half the pounding he will take in the first 4 games this year. I think the ideal situation would be 15 carries for Willie, 10 for Deuce, and using Bettis and Haynes accordingly. I agree it is a lot of money to be sitting on the bench, but if he can add another dimension to the 3rd down passing attack he would be worth every penny. I bet the average cost of our backs is still lower than most teams, so overpaying slightly for Deuce isn't killing our cap. Our offense requires 2 good backs I believe, so I think he'll still put up better numbers than most 2nd backs in the NFL.

[Noles20]

I think you'll see a three headed monster playing the postion. Once Jerome is healthy, he'll play inside the 5. Deuce is going to be the 3rd down back, and we utilize that position a lot. I think Willie won't be able to carry the load the whole year just because he has never had to take half the pounding he will take in the first 4 games this year. I think the ideal situation would be 15 carries for Willie, 10 for Deuce, and using Bettis and Haynes accordingly. I agree it is a lot of money to be sitting on the bench, but if he can add another dimension to the 3rd down passing attack he would be worth every penny. I bet the average cost of our backs is still lower than most teams, so overpaying slightly for Deuce isn't killing our cap. Our offense requires 2 good backs I believe, so I think he'll still put up better numbers than most 2nd backs in the NFL.

Duce goes from one 3 headed monster to another!

[dmbmuskie]

Duce goes from one 3 headed monster to another!

Yeah, I'm sure he's not happy even if he says he is. If he'd just stay healthy he would have had none of these problems. He was on pace to put up probaly 1700 yards last year.

[LovingWings4DMB]

45 minutes until game time! The steelers SHOULD have no problems today!

[cbsauder]

here we go steelers, here we go! :multi

[LovingWings4DMB]

2-0 way to go steelers!

[onemoredrink41]

2-0 way to go steelers!


:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

[Minarets19]

well at least we didnt let Jamal Lewis run wild like Willie did on us last week.

Go Titans! no one in the league id rather beat then the Ravens!

[dmbmuskie]

Another easy one today for the Black and Gold, next week should be a battle and measuring stick game for us.

[LovingWings4DMB]

i dont think its going to be as tough as we think its going to be next week

[dmbmuskie]

I think it will be a tougher game simply because the Pats lost today. As good as the AFC, is they could basically kiss their home field advantage goodbye down 2 games after 3 weeks. I love Willie, but I hope Deuce and Jerome are ready to go because they can attack the weak middle of New England. Games between great teams are won in the trenches, and I have a feeling this one will be the same way. I think we'll win an absolute battle by a fieldgoal.
I'm so glad the game is late because I have to pick my parents up from the airport at 2 that day. I was trying to figure out what I would do.

[SteelerMan]

The Panthers (who beat the Patriots yesterday) actually remind me somewhat of the Steelers... an efficient QB (although I'd say Ben is better than Delhomme), a strong running game with multiple backs (although I'd say ours are better), and a strong defense (although I'd say ours is better). Looks to me like the Steelers may have the prototypical team this year for beating the Patriots.

[SteelerMan]

well at least we didnt let Jamal Lewis run wild like Willie did on us last week.

Go Titans! no one in the league id rather beat then the Ravens!

:thumbsup

Congrats to your Titans. I believe that was the first time I cheered for them since they played the Ravens in the playoffs. Steelers fans are always grateful to teams who beat the Ratbirds.

[cbsauder]

well at least we didnt let Jamal Lewis run wild like Willie did on us last week.

Go Titans! no one in the league id rather beat then the Ravens!
:thumbsdow make your own thread. :D

[cbsauder]

next week is going to be another battle with the patriots.

[dmbmuskie]

The Panthers (who beat the Patriots yesterday) actually remind me somewhat of the Steelers... an efficient QB (although I'd say Ben is better than Delhomme), a strong running game with multiple backs (although I'd say ours are better), and a strong defense (although I'd say ours is better). Looks to me like the Steelers may have the prototypical team this year for beating the Patriots.

Those are my sentiments exactly. The problem is that the Pats are just so damn good at making adjustments that watching what the Panthers did to them probaly won't do us much good. I don't think they allow a team a prototypical plan to beat them. You have to be at your best to beat them. When I saw Delhomme get picked by Vrabel I figured the Pats would win just because they kill teams who make mistakes. Yesterday, they made the mistakes. That won't happen again. They'll find something to exploit, like the fact that we have only been dressing 3 legit corners and they have super depth at reciever.

[dmbgodagirl41]

next week is going to be another battle with the patriots.

yeah, i think it's going to be a good game.

that is unless tommy forgets how to play like he did yesterday :lol who loses to the panthers, I mean c'mon.

[dmbgodagirl41]

The Panthers (who beat the Patriots yesterday) actually remind me somewhat of the Steelers... an efficient QB (although I'd say Ben is better than Delhomme), a strong running game with multiple backs (although I'd say ours are better), and a strong defense (although I'd say ours is better). Looks to me like the Steelers may have the prototypical team this year for beating the Patriots.

But 10 bucks says Benny boy doesnt read "football for dummies" before each game. 10 bucks says Jake does.

[SteelerMan]

that is unless tommy forgets how to play like he did yesterday :lol who loses to the panthers, I mean c'mon.

:rolleyes

The Panthers are one of the best teams in the league.

[cbsauder]

:rolleyes

The Panthers are one of the best teams in the league.
yea.

[dmbgodagirl41]

:rolleyes

The Panthers are one of the best teams in the league.


why, because stuart scott says so?

[SteelerMan]

why, because stuart scott says so?

Because they have talent and were a field goal away from winning the Super Bowl two years ago. Last year was an aberration because they were ravaged by injuries, and yet they still almost made the playoffs. Not to mention, they just beat the two-time defending champs rather convincingly. You can make excuses all day long... "oh, Tommy wasn't on"... the fact is, the Patsies couldn't take advantage of the Panthers mistakes while the Panthers forced Brady to make mistakes and capitalized on them. That's what great teams do... capitalize on the mistakes of others.

Why are you even posting in the Steelers thread anyway? There are other football related threads out there that would be more appropriate for you. Go dig up the Patriots one. You better hurry though before their bandwagon starts emptying up and nobody cares about them.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Because they have talent and were a field goal away from winning the Super Bowl two years ago. Last year was an aberration because they were ravaged by injuries, and yet they still almost made the playoffs. Not to mention, they just beat the two-time defending champs rather convincingly. You can make excuses all day long... "oh, Tommy wasn't on"... the fact is, the Patsies couldn't take advantage of the Panthers mistakes while the Panthers forced Brady to make mistakes and capitalized on them. That's what great teams do... capitalize on the mistakes of others.

Why are you even posting in the Steelers thread anyway? There are other football related threads out there that would be more appropriate for you. Go dig up the Patriots one. You better hurry though before their bandwagon starts emptying up and nobody cares about them.

Do you know what Delhomme's numbers were the year they went to the SB? Seriously, if not, look it up, then you might not think that they were so fantastic. Miami beat the defending champs last year, doesn't make them better; as did the Steelers (granted, the Steelers are MUCH better than the Dolphins, but you know what I mean). And I'm not arguing that the panthers didn't play better THIS WEEK. And I'm not saying that the Pats are going to win it all this year, either; I honestly am not sure about that one for the first time in a few years.

I think I originally posted in here because I was making a comment on how I wanted Willie Parker to do well. I didn't come in here for any negative reason. And frankly, I dont give a crap about the Patriots bandwagon; I've been a fan since I was like 9, so the size of the fanbase really doesn't concern me.

[dmbmuskie]

Quarterback rating means shit when it comes to winning football games. There was something in one of the Pittsburgh papers yesterday that talked about it. Kordell Stewart ranks above Bradshaw in passer rating. It's a bogus stat in my opinion. Wins is what matters.

[SteelerMan]

Do you know what Delhomme's numbers were the year they went to the SB? Seriously, if not, look it up, then you might not think that they were so fantastic.

How can one player's statistics determine... forget it. Nevermind.

[dmbgodagirl41]

How can one player's statistics determine... forget it. Nevermind.


well everyone talks about how AMAZING they are and how AMAZING they were that season. Last time I checked, a QBs stats has A LOT to do with how well a team does. A QB's stats are determined not just by his performance alone. You do know that, right?

[dmbmuskie]

well everyone talks about how AMAZING they are and how AMAZING they were that season. Last time I checked, a QBs stats has A LOT to do with how well a team does. A QB's stats are determined not just by his performance alone. You do know that, right?

Looking at a quarterback's stats doesn't tell the whole story of the game he played, especially if you look at quarterback rating. You have to watch a game to see how the quarterback played. If you saw that a guy threw 3 interceptions in the stat column you would automatically assume that he played a bad game, but that does not always hold true. Quarterbacking is about winning games, not statistics. If stats told the whole story no one could ever argue that Marino wasn't the greatest ever, but he didn't win like Montana, Elway, Bradshaw, Unitas, Brady, etc.

The Panthers are a damn good team. I consider them among the elite teams in the league this year, even with the loss to the Saints. Delhomme wins, no matter how it happens. That is what matter. The defense is just scary.

[Steelers36]

well everyone talks about how AMAZING they are and how AMAZING they were that season. Last time I checked, a QBs stats has A LOT to do with how well a team does. A QB's stats are determined not just by his performance alone. You do know that, right?

What about Trent Dilfer in 2000?

He was 134/226, 1,502 yards, 12 TD 11 INT, and rating of 76.6. They won the Superbowl with a QB that had stats like that. Your argument is flawed proving once again that you know nothing at all about football.

And last year Delhomme threw for more yards and TDs than Brady did, but you know that, right?

[dmbgodagirl41]

What about Trent Dilfer in 2000?

He was 134/226, 1,502 yards, 12 TD 11 INT, and rating of 76.6. They won the Superbowl with a QB that had stats like that. Your argument is flawed proving once again that you know nothing at all about football.

And last year Delhomme threw for more yards and TDs than Brady did, but you know that, right?

did i ask about trent dilfer? no, i didnt. I asked about delhomme. my main point was that a team cannot thrive if the QB isn't 1. on top of his game and 2. able to read his recievers. and how many did he throw the season that they went to the super bowl. I mentioned nothing about last year, I was referrencing THE YEAR THEY WENT TO THE SUPER BOWL. Please read my comments and questions and not apply things that have nothing to do with anything, thanks.

and last year Brady got a super bowl ring, but you know that, right?

[dmbgodagirl41]

Looking at a quarterback's stats doesn't tell the whole story of the game he played, especially if you look at quarterback rating. You have to watch a game to see how the quarterback played. If you saw that a guy threw 3 interceptions in the stat column you would automatically assume that he played a bad game, but that does not always hold true. Quarterbacking is about winning games, not statistics. If stats told the whole story no one could ever argue that Marino wasn't the greatest ever, but he didn't win like Montana, Elway, Bradshaw, Unitas, Brady, etc.

The Panthers are a damn good team. I consider them among the elite teams in the league this year, even with the loss to the Saints. Delhomme wins, no matter how it happens. That is what matter. The defense is just scary.


and that's totally cool. I somewhat hope I am wrong about the panthers. I mean, I am always a fan of seeing a team that no one thinks has a shot or is just totally underrated do well and maybe even win the SB. I hope youre right; it would make for a really cool season.

[dmbmuskie]

The Panthers aren't a surprise team. They had 15 people on IR last season, and still went 8-8. I think everyone except you thinks they will be a Super Bowl contender.

[UNC41]

and that's totally cool. I somewhat hope I am wrong about the panthers. I mean, I am always a fan of seeing a team that no one thinks has a shot or is just totally underrated do well and maybe even win the SB. I hope youre right; it would make for a really cool season.

See this is where your lack of knowledge kills you. The Panthers are by no means an underrated team. In fact, they are the "sexy" pick to come out of the NFC and make the Super Bowl.

[dmbgodagirl41]

See this is where your lack of knowledge kills you. The Panthers are by no means an underrated team. In fact, they are the "sexy" pick to come out of the NFC and make the Super Bowl.

I think the panthers are underrated. but I dont see the big deal. I mean, I have always said/thought Daunte Culpepper is OVERRATED, and I'm pretty sure everyone will finally see what I mean with that this year.

MY OPINION is that the panthers are not very good. I may be proven wrong, I may be proven right, but I don't think they are going to be in the SB this year.

[haildmb]

IMY OPINION is that the panthers are not very good. I may be proven wrong


you're already wrong

[haildmb]

and that's totally cool. I somewhat hope I am wrong about the panthers. I mean, I am always a fan of seeing a team that no one thinks has a shot or is just totally underrated do well and maybe even win the SB. I hope youre right; it would make for a really cool season.


you do realize this is, for all intents and purposes, the very same panthers team that went to a superbowl two years ago, right? What am I saying, you must not realize that, or you wouldn't consider them a "team no one thinks has a shot" or a team that is underrated. How dangerous they are is well known.

[dmbgodagirl41]

you're already wrong

as much as i love the fact that you practically follow me around this board and knit-pick every word i say, it's getting kind of creepy.

[haildmb]

as much as i love the fact that you practically follow me around this board and knit-pick every word i say, it's getting kind of creepy.


you keep posting in sports threads; sports are my life. Thus, we're going to cross paths once or twice. Unfortunately for me, seeing as you don't know anything of the subject

[dmbgodagirl41]

you do realize this is, for all intents and purposes, the very same panthers team that went to a superbowl two years ago, right? What am I saying, you must not realize that, or you wouldn't consider them a "team no one thinks has a shot" or a team that is underrated. How dangerous they are is well known.

two years ago, i didn't think they were good. i think delhomme learned how to play for one night. didn't they have negative yardage for the first half? I know they did for at least the first quarter....

[dmbgodagirl41]

you keep posting in sports threads; sports are my life. Thus, we're going to cross paths once or twice. Unfortunately for me, seeing as you don't know anything of the subject

well i guess that makes two of us, because i have yet to see you make a valid point as well.

okay, im not going to post panther/pats stuff here. its kind of rude, seeing as how its the steelers thread.........we can move it to the other general "katie, youre a moron, and fat, and ugly and stupid, and just one big poopie face" thread if you want.

[UNC41]

two years ago, i didn't think they were good. i think delhomme learned how to play for one night. didn't they have negative yardage for the first half? I know they did for at least the first quarter....

Not good Super Bowl team is an oxymoron by the way.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Not good Super Bowl team is an oxymoron by the way.

no, it's really not. I'm pretty sure the '97 Pats were not good. How the F they got to the SB then is beyond me. That spanking they recieved was pretty standard.

edit: addition--2000 Giants? Not good and at the SB.

[cbsauder]

no, it's really not. I'm pretty sure the '97 Pats were not good. How the F they got to the SB then is beyond me. That spanking they recieved was pretty standard.

edit: addition--2000 Giants? Not good and at the SB.
you said you were gonna stop posting in here...

on to the steelers.

Cowher says that no matter who is ready to go next week veteran wise, Willie Parker will start. I like to hear this. :thumbsup

[dmbgodagirl41]

you said you were gonna stop posting in here...

on to the steelers.

Cowher says that no matter who is ready to go next week veteran wise, Willie Parker will start. I like to hear this. :thumbsup

nah, i said no more non-steelers talk. sorry 'bout that.

and um, they'd be stupid not to keep parker on. if you're referring to bettis as the veteran, that guy has square wheels, so yeah, willie all the way.

[UNC41]

you said you were gonna stop posting in here...

on to the steelers.

Cowher says that no matter who is ready to go next week veteran wise, Willie Parker will start. I like to hear this. :thumbsup

Cowher definately doesn't coach my fantasy team.

[cbsauder]

Cowher definately doesn't coach my fantasy team.
and? i dont get it.

[cbsauder]

nah, i said no more non-steelers talk. sorry 'bout that.

and um, they'd be stupid not to keep parker on. if you're referring to bettis as the veteran, that guy has square wheels, so yeah, willie all the way.
well, bettis and staley.

[dmbgodagirl41]

well, bettis and staley.

oh okay...forgot about staley. he'd be okay, but I'd still go with Parker. But then again, I sucked it up this week in fantasy football, so my opinion about RBs are not exactly up to par :lol

[dmbmuskie]

I wish I had something important to say about the Steelers, but I'm sure it will just be wasted. I don't care about other peoples fantasy teams, and how the Steelers are helping or hurting them. The last page is filled with some of the most mindeless arguments ever, and I'm guilty of being involved. Can we talk about something else?

[SteelerMan]

if you're referring to bettis as the veteran, that guy has square wheels, so yeah, willie all the way.

He made the Pro Bowl last year when everyone thought he was finished. Once again, you don't know what you're talking about. Please stick to threads discussing how dreamy Tom Brady is and leave the Steelers thread to those of us who follow the team. Thank you.

[dmbmuskie]

I've got to pick up my parents from the airport Sunday at 3, and we are looking for any suggestions for a place to watch the game in the Airport/Robinson/Moon area. I've been in Butya's, but I don't know how fast it fills up on game days. I figure most places are going to be crowded, and we problay won't get out of the airport until almost 4.

[absltcit33]

I've got to pick up my parents from the airport Sunday at 3, and we are looking for any suggestions for a place to watch the game in the Airport/Robinson/Moon area. I've been in Butya's, but I don't know how fast it fills up on game days. I figure most places are going to be crowded, and we problay won't get out of the airport until almost 4.

Butya's is so yinzer

just go to BW3, by best buy

[seekupig]

He made the Pro Bowl last year when everyone thought he was finished. Once again, you don't know what you're talking about. Please stick to threads discussing how dreamy Tom Brady is and leave the Steelers thread to those of us who follow the team. Thank you.

:thumbsup :lol

i'm not a Steelers fan, but i had to laugh at that. sorry for the intrusion, i'll get back to my Chiefs thread with the other three fans....

[cbsauder]

:thumbsup :lol

i'm not a Steelers fan, but i had to laugh at that. sorry for the intrusion, i'll get back to my Chiefs thread with the other three fans....
yea. :violent





:lol

[cbsauder]

so where do you steelers fans go for online news? i find the post-gazette website to be very well done, plus they have daily updates.

http://postgazette.com/steelers/

[seekupig]

yea. :violent





:lol

my fiance is from Pittsburgh and is a huge Steelers fan, so it helps my home life if they are doing well. i usually pull for them unless it's a game that has implications on the Chiefs season....

[cbsauder]

my fiance is from Pittsburgh and is a huge Steelers fan, so it helps my home life if they are doing well. i usually pull for them unless it's a game that has implications on the Chiefs season....
yea. good thing they don't play each other too often.

[seekupig]

yea. good thing they don't play each other too often.

i remember the last time they did......

*runs from thread*

[cbsauder]

i remember the last time they did......

*runs from thread*
i actually had to research to figure out how the steelers did in that game. team's like the chiefs dont really stick out in my memory. :D

[seekupig]

i actually had to research to figure out how the steelers did in that game. team's like the chiefs dont really stick out in my memory. :D

i normally try to forget 41-20 thrashings as well......;)

[cbsauder]

i normally try to forget 41-20 thrashings as well......;)
that was our off year. so we DIDNT happen to go 15-1 in 2003. what a fluke.

[seekupig]

that was our off year. so we DIDNT happen to go 15-1 in 2003. what a fluke.

last year was the fluke, 2003 is more what i'd expect from the Steelers..... :D ;)

[cbsauder]

last year was the fluke, 2003 is more what i'd expect from the Steelers..... :D ;)
not so far. not at all. yes, i know you're kidding.

[dmbmuskie]

Butya's is so yinzer

just go to BW3, by best buy

That B-Dubs is so small I cannot imagine getting a seat in there around 4 on Sunday. I think the current plan is to drive home fast. I made it back to my house in 40 minutes yesterday without speeding, so I figure I can cut 5 solid minutes out on 22.

Were you born in the area or did you move into it? I don't think yinzer is a bad way to describe a place.

[dmbmuskie]

After being out all night drinkign I've decided I'm tired on the nocesties. Fuck the Patriots!

[cbsauder]

. MONONGAHELA , ALLEGHENY , O-HI-O!
IF YOU AIN'T A STEELER FAN
YOU JUST BLOW!
GO STEELERS!!

[mikedevoss6]

Bout that time again. Vikes are gonna win today and now this game is coming on.

I'm gonna go with the Steelers over the Pats, 34-24

[LovingWings4DMB]

i think it will be a close game. 34-24 might be too much of a lead. i'll say 24-21 steelers win.

[absltcit33]

That B-Dubs is so small I cannot imagine getting a seat in there around 4 on Sunday. I think the current plan is to drive home fast. I made it back to my house in 40 minutes yesterday without speeding, so I figure I can cut 5 solid minutes out on 22.

Were you born in the area or did you move into it? I don't think yinzer is a bad way to describe a place.

I was born in the north hills, lived in wexford until moving to sewickley

[saygdbye4134pt2]

why on earth did ward just try and flip that?

[mikedevoss6]

That was Randle-El flipping it to Ward actually. Yeah that was a ridiculous decision though

[watchtower86]

I only hate the Steelers because I can't stand the obnoxious fans up here at State College, so I found that last play extremely funny.

[cbsauder]

I only hate the Steelers because I can't stand the obnoxious fans up here at State College, so I found that last play extremely funny.
you can say the exact same thing about eagles fans here @ Pitt.

[RJ2kWJ]

And down to the Squeelers yet againnnnnn. :D

[Rob]

Good game, guys. As with every other team in the league, Pittsburgh was one Vinatieri short.

[RJ2kWJ]

Good game, guys. As with every other team in the league, Pittsburgh was one Vinatieri short.

:lol ....I've always loved that quote.

[cbsauder]

no need to taunt. i realize the steelers lost, thank you very much.

[davehead34]

Man, that was an extremely close game. This is going to be an interesting season, indeed. I was on the edge of my seat the entire time.

[cbsauder]

i definitely DONT think the steelers season is over, that's for sure. the o-line just just needs to get their act together, along with ben.

[davehead34]

i definitely DONT think the steelers season is over, that's for sure. the o-line just just needs to get their act together, along with ben.

The season is far from over for almost every team (there are always a few hopeless teams each year ;)). About Ben, though...the Pats are known for their defense, and they certainly owned the game offensively today. Give Ben time. He's still so young. He's going to crack under pressure every now and then.

I just realized this is the first time Ben lost a regular season game :)

[il bacio dolce]

What was the score?

[dmb_3641]

23-20 Pats. My blood pressure just got back to normal...

[cbsauder]

eh, its only one loss. but it had to come to the patriots :lorraine

[airr233]

Patriots, whooooo whooooo whooooo.

If it wasn't for that last drive by the Steelers, I would comment that Big Ben can't do it. It was almost true if it wasn't for that penalty. Tom Brady just knows how to do a late drive to win a game.

I don't think Parker is as good as everyone is claiming he is, Duce will be the main back by midseason.

[cbsauder]

Patriots, whooooo whooooo whooooo.

If it wasn't for that last drive by the Steelers, I would comment that Big Ben can't do it. It was almost true if it wasn't for that penalty. Tom Brady just knows how to do a late drive to win a game.

I don't think Parker is as good as everyone is claiming he is, Duce will be the main back by midseason.
we'll see about parker. i think he's the real deal.

[joepsu0985]

Man...The Pats are good...I hate them but they are clutch...They have so much depth comming off the bench..Two good players go down and the backups just take over as if they are starters...They dominated our O-line and rushed Big Ben constantly...That is a championship calibur team. I would not want to play them again in the AFC championship...

[seekupig]

Man...The Pats are good...That is a championship calibur team. I would not want to play them again in the AFC championship...

where have you been the last four years? ;)

[joepsu0985]

where have you been the last four years? ;)


I just didnt belive they were that good..But man..they can take a great team and make them look like a bunch of sand lots

[LovingWings4DMB]

The Patriots played a better game today then the Steelers. They deserved to win.



and it just kills me to say that.

[hunter4268]

The Steelers had thier chances. Randle El and his dumbass play. Oh Well we get a week off and they will come back better than every.


:hump

[onemoredrink41]

Yeah, the steelers fucked it up. When they tied it up, their defense couldn't stop shit.
being a steelers fan, I could say that fucked themselves on that game.

[watchtower86]

Yeah, the steelers fucked it up. When they tied it up, their defense couldn't stop shit.
being a steelers fan, I could say that fucked themselves on that game.
Glad you're a Steelers fan. Just another reason to make fun of you and dislike you.

[davehead34]

The Steelers had thier chances. Randle El and his dumbass play.

Agreed. I can't believe that happened.

[dmbmuskie]

I had to decompress after the game. I honestly just went to bed the minute it ended. I'm not taking anything away from the Patriots, but we had the chance to bury them in the 2nd quarterer like in our first two games and we blew it. When El pithced that ball I really thought I was watching a Burger King commercial. Then Brooks jumping offsides on the field goal was just as big of a screw up because it took read out of his comfort zone. Combined those 2 lapses caused us to take at least 6 points off the board combined and likely 10. The offesnsive game plan killed me too. I'm going to watch the compressed version of the game today, but I don't think we made any adjustments. I like that we seem to be able to strike quick, but those plays shouldn't be the core of the attack. The short routes would have been there, especially to our 1st round pick. The D-line was giving him a free release. The running plan sucked too. We don't fool anyone with that shift, and we need to get the wideouts wider splits to get Willie some room. He's not going to break tackles like Deuce and Bettis would, so the attack cannot be the same.

[SteelerMan]

I wasn't impressed with either team until the 4th quarter. Overall it was a sloppy, ugly game. My guess is it's because the teams have played each other so much the past two seasons that they know each other too well. The Steelers couldn't stop the pass rush and their linebackers couldn't get to Brady. That was what made the difference. I don't think that loss is going to make anyone think any less of the Steelers though; if anything, it'll only make them think more of Brady. I just don't understand reports saying the Patriots dominated the game... one play (ex. Randle El not pitching it to Ward, no false start on the field goal at the end of the first half) could've easily turned the game the other way. I'm not worried about the Steelers just yet.

[dmbgodagirl41]

The score should have been 23-6 Pats. That first TD by the steelers never should have happened. Horrible, horrible coverage. And that penalty in the fourth. The dude caught it and dropped it. I think the refs were Pittsburgh fans;)

It was just nice to see Tommy back to his old "1:21 left in the quarter and we're tied? I'm not fucking losing" self. Awesome game, though. Two best teams in the AFC (and potentially the NFL) going at it; nothing better than that.

[seekupig]

The score should have been 23-6 Pats. That first TD by the steelers never should have happened. Horrible, horrible coverage. And that penalty in the fourth. The dude caught it and dropped it. I think the refs were Pittsburgh fans.



you are joking aren't you?

and that play in the fourth was definately pass intereference. he wouldn't have dropped it had he not been pushed before the ball got there.....

[dmbgodagirl41]

you are joking aren't you?

and that play in the fourth was definately pass intereference. he wouldn't have dropped it had he not been pushed before the ball got there.....
didn't look like pass interference to me or the 6 people i was watching with (yeah, and two were steelers fans). But doesn't matter, the outcome of the game was the way i wanted anyways, so it could have been face mask for all I care :)

[seekupig]

didn't look like pass interference to me or the 6 people i was watching with (yeah, and two were steelers fans).

i thought it was pretty obvious as did the bar full of people that i was with. maybe we got the edited version down here....

[dmbmuskie]

The score should have been 23-6 Pats. That first TD by the steelers never should have happened. Horrible, horrible coverage. And that penalty in the fourth. The dude caught it and dropped it. I think the refs were Pittsburgh fans;)

It was just nice to see Tommy back to his old "1:21 left in the quarter and we're tied? I'm not fucking losing" self. Awesome game, though. Two best teams in the AFC (and potentially the NFL) going at it; nothing better than that.

Did you actually watch the game?

[dmbgodagirl41]

Did you actually watch the game?

um way to point out what part of my comment showed that I didn't.....

[dmbgodagirl41]

i thought it was pretty obvious as did the bar full of people that i was with. maybe we got the edited version down here....

of course it was obvious, you were probably in a bar filled with people who can't even read nevermind be able to tell what a good call is ;)

(SARCASM!!!)

[Minarets19]

if i was a Steeler fan, i would be very very scared that my QB is Rothlisberger. i mean, i know he is young and this will benefit him in years down the road, but as far as winning now, i dont see it. sure you can say he was undefeated in his opening season, yadda yadda yadda...but he was the beneficiary of a great team all around him. he is imo the weak link to this team. if you can just have him be the Dilfer QB...which he seems to have done for the most part, i think the Steelers have a chance.

but all things considered, the Pats played without about 4 DEF players yest. you played at home and you still lost. i am not sold on Big Ben yet. like i said, i think he "will" be a good QB. but if you the Steelers you want to win now.

[seekupig]

of course it was obvious, you were probably in a bar filled with people who can't even read nevermind be able to tell what a good call is ;)

(SARCASM!!!)

actually it was a bar with educated people that care more about the game than how hot the quarterback is.

(NO SARCASM!!!)

[dmbgodagirl41]

actually it was a bar with educated people that care more about the game than how hot the quarterback is.

(NO SARCASM!!!)

tee hee hee like oh my god, i like think ill go put on my pink tommy brady shirt cuz he is like....oh my god so hot! and, like i also only cheer for the boys that have the pretty jerseys--like the seahawks (i think that's them?) I like totally love that aqua-ish color, cuz like, it goes with my favorite sweater. tee hee hee. boys!

fuck. off.

[dmbmuskie]

um way to point out what part of my comment showed that I didn't.....

First, saying 23-6 Patriots is stupid. It could have easily been a huge Steelrs lead at one point. Good recievers make big plays, no matter how the coverage is. Quincy got mugged, that is why he dropped it. All of that was pretty obvious to most people, but you I guess.

[Minarets19]

as an impartial few on the pass interference call: cause i hate both teams with a passion...it was a straight judgment call. it could have gone either way. personally i cant beleive on 4th and game you throw a fade. not exactly my play of choice. bit i can see that call either not being called or called. it was close. it wasnt cut and dry as some have suggested

[dmbmuskie]

if i was a Steeler fan, i would be very very scared that my QB is Rothlisberger. i mean, i know he is young and this will benefit him in years down the road, but as far as winning now, i dont see it. sure you can say he was undefeated in his opening season, yadda yadda yadda...but he was the beneficiary of a great team all around him. he is imo the weak link to this team. if you can just have him be the Dilfer QB...which he seems to have done for the most part, i think the Steelers have a chance.

but all things considered, the Pats played without about 4 DEF players yest. you played at home and you still lost. i am not sold on Big Ben yet. like i said, i think he "will" be a good QB. but if you the Steelers you want to win now.

I agree with about everything you said. The first 10 quarters of football this year were great for him, but they haunted him in the second half. He or the coaches seemed to expect that we were going to be able to keep chucking the ball down the field. He seems to have 2 reads, primary and scramble and hope something happens. As I said earlier, the Pats were begging for us to throw short, and we refused to make the adjustments to implement it. He's better than Dilfer ever was, except this year where he seems to be a superstar. He reminds me an awful lot of a young Mcnair in that he is hard as shit to bring down, but makes some mistakes.

[dmbgodagirl41]

First, saying 23-6 Patriots is stupid. It could have easily been a huge Steelrs lead at one point. Good recievers make big plays, no matter how the coverage is. Quincy got mugged, that is why he dropped it. All of that was pretty obvious to most people, but you I guess.

i was just saying that one of the long TDs to Ward shouldn't have happened because the pats should have covered it. I didn't say that it was unfair or that it was because of a bad call or something, I just meant that the Pats shouldn't have let that happen.
Also, I believe Quincy was "shoved" after he caught the ball, so how is that pass interference? if you have a ball, and you are then shoved, that's not pass interference, that's called not holding on to the ball.

[dmbmuskie]

as an impartial few on the pass interference call: cause i hate both teams with a passion...it was a straight judgment call. it could have gone either way. personally i cant beleive on 4th and game you throw a fade. not exactly my play of choice. bit i can see that call either not being called or called. it was close. it wasnt cut and dry as some have suggested

My younger brother is a Patriots fan and he thought it was pass interference.

[dmbgodagirl41]

My younger brother is a Patriots fan and he thought it was pass interference.

that means what? your brother is potentially an idiot, too?

[Evans]

I was rooting against the Steelers and I saw pass interference on that play big time. It really can't be contested, it was obvious even before viewing the replay.

[Minarets19]

I agree with about everything you said. The first 10 quarters of football this year were great for him, but they haunted him in the second half. He or the coaches seemed to expect that we were going to be able to keep chucking the ball down the field. He seems to have 2 reads, primary and scramble and hope something happens. As I said earlier, the Pats were begging for us to throw short, and we refused to make the adjustments to implement it. He's better than Dilfer ever was, except this year where he seems to be a superstar. He reminds me an awful lot of a young Mcnair in that he is hard as shit to bring down, but makes some mistakes.

well, i think he will be better then Dilfer, and a lot of me thinks he is "Big Ben" and the hype he has received is because of the success of the team with him being a rookie/so new to the NFL. if Dilfer's first year had been with that championship Raven team...Dilfer would be in the same boat. again i beleive Ben will be a very good QB in the league, but at this point i see it hard for him to win vs the Pats or Colts. i think he only complete like 11 passes yest? i know on the last drive he had only completed 9 passes. you cant do that and win. Brady completed like 20 more passes then Ben albeit he threw prlly 20+ more then Ben, but still.

[dmbmuskie]

Are the NFL idiots too?
http://www.nfl.com/fans/rules/passinterference

[Minarets19]

i also saw the Steeler guy puch off. that is what i am saying. there was a lot of contact both ways

[dmbmuskie]

well, i think he will be better then Dilfer, and a lot of me thinks he is "Big Ben" and the hype he has received is because of the success of the team with him being a rookie/so new to the NFL. if Dilfer's first year had been with that championship Raven team...Dilfer would be in the same boat. again i beleive Ben will be a very good QB in the league, but at this point i see it hard for him to win vs the Pats or Colts. i think he only complete like 11 passes yest? i know on the last drive he had only completed 9 passes. you cant do that and win. Brady completed like 20 more passes then Ben albeit he threw prlly 20+ more then Ben, but still.

If we could have ever got off the field that discrepancy would not have happened. If you look at his entire body of work you see a good quarterback, but he's choked in 3 big games, which is what most of the counrty has seen. The Dallas and Jacksonville games last year two of the finest performances I have ever seen out of quartebacks. The playoffs last year and yesterday he was bad, and I'll be the first to admit that.

[SteelerMan]

Also, I believe Quincy was "shoved" after he caught the ball, so how is that pass interference? if you have a ball, and you are then shoved, that's not pass interference, that's called not holding on to the ball.

Are you kidding me??? Have you seen the play? If you want to argue it wasn't pass interference, that's fine... but he never caught the ball, nor was he shoved after the ball got there.