Official Indiana University Basketball Thread

[rick8285]

Because IU Basketball Tradition is about to return.

Marco Killingsworth
Robert Vaden
Earl Calloway
Lewis Monroe
Marshall Strickland
AJ Ratliff
Roderick Wilmont
Ben Allen
DJ White

The deepest team in Big Ten and possibly in the NCAA

http://iuhoosiers.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/101905aaa.html?pic=1

[onemoredrink41]

Because IU Basketball Tradition is about to return.

Marco Killingsworth
Robert Vaden
Earl Calloway
Lewis Monroe
Marshall Strickland
AJ Ratliff
Roderick Wilmont
Ben Allen
DJ White

The deepest team in Big Ten and possibly in the NCAA

http://iuhoosiers.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/101905aaa.html?pic=1





:thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow

[haildmb]

The deepest team in Big Ten and possibly in the NCAA



And If I run outside right now I could possibly fly.

[onemoredrink41]

And If I run outside right now I could possibly fly.


:lol :lol

[paris72]

And If I run outside right now I could possibly fly.

They are going to take you Devils down on the 30th.

[onemoredrink41]

They are going to take you Devils down on the 30th.


are you joking?

[paris72]

are you joking?

Nope, just wait

[rick8285]

he's not joking...I work at Student Television and we're filming a pregame show. The day will be so intense on campus, I cannot wait.

Duke, soon to join the one-loss club

[rick8285]

Roderick Wilmont will keep JJ under wraps!

[onemoredrink41]

he's not joking...I work at Student Television and we're filming a pregame show. The day will be so intense on campus, I cannot wait.

Duke, soon to join the one-loss club


Intense game or not, i doubt you will beat DUKE.

[paris72]

Duke is Wayyyyyy overrated. They were exposed some by Drexel and Memphis should have won last night. I say UI by 6

[rick8285]

Duke is Wayyyyyy overrated. They were exposed some by Drexel and Memphis should have won last night. I say UI by 6
dude, you're from kentucky, but still...it's IU not UI

White-out will have a whole new meaning come tomorrow night! ;) :thumbsup ;) :thumbsup ;)

[SmoothD41]

alright, so who's going tomorrow??

I'll be sitting in section K, row 45...not the best seats, but not nearly the worst either.

I haven't felt TRUE optimism like this for quite a while, this is great. I am honestly pretty confident that they'll pull the upset tomorrow.

Marco and Strickland HAVE to show up, and we need someone like Wilmont or Vaden to step up for us too. It's a shame we won't have DJ in there, but i think we'll be fine. Killingsworth is a freak and will control Williams.

Also, we have the best mustache in all of college basketball with Mr. Earl Calloway. How can we not win?

[rick8285]

alright, so who's going tomorrow??

I'll be sitting in section K, row 45...not the best seats, but not nearly the worst either.

I haven't felt TRUE optimism like this for quite a while, this is great. I am honestly pretty confident that they'll pull the upset tomorrow.

Marco and Strickland HAVE to show up, and we need someone like Wilmont or Vaden to step up for us too. It's a shame we won't have DJ in there, but i think we'll be fine. Killingsworth is a freak and will control Williams.

Also, we have the best mustache in all of college basketball with Mr. Earl Calloway. How can we not win?
JJ Row 16, it doesn't get much worse. But I got numbered sections for MSU and Purdue. Wilmont has to dominate Reddick, and if we keep fresh people in there and keep the fast break working for us, we're golden. If we shoot the 3 ball with any percentage close to what we have thus far, it's no contest!

[RJ2kWJ]

Demarcus was a big part of the squad, and without him im a LITTLE worried.... about it though.

Duke by 8.

[rick8285]

Demarcus was a big part of the squad, and without him im a LITTLE worried.... about it though.

Duke by 8.
At 11:00 pm EASTERN Duke will be 5-1, nothing to be ashamed of, very good record!

[RJ2kWJ]

At 11:00 pm EASTERN Duke will be 5-1, nothing to be ashamed of, very good record!

Hmmmm I thought you had to lose one to get that record??

Definitely gonna be 6-0.

[seekupig]

i think it'll be close early. Duke ends up winning going away by about 15 or so.

[RJ2kWJ]

i think it'll be close early. Duke ends up winning going away by about 15 or so.

Good man. :D

[seekupig]

Good man. :D

don't think i like saying things like that. ;)

i just figured this little argument could use an unbiased opinion. people that speak with their heart and not their head are not ones to listen to on sports matchups. when you want something to happen so bad, you eventually start to believe that it actually will. DUKE WILL WIN.

[RJ2kWJ]

don't think i like saying things like that. ;)

i just figured this little argument could use an unbiased opinion. people that speak with their heart and not their head are not ones to listen to on sports matchups. when you want something to happen so bad, you eventually start to believe that it actually will. DUKE WILL WIN.

haha very true. I just think in the end Duke will pull it out. Slightly more talent and better coaching.

But very true... good post!

[RJ2kWJ]

Duke is Wayyyyyy overrated. They were exposed some by Drexel and Memphis should have won last night. I say UI by 6

How so?

I dont think Mich St. is overrated and they suffered a HORRIBLE loss in Maui.

Im just saying teams can have close wins and not be overrated.

[seekupig]

Duke is Wayyyyyy overrated. They were exposed some by Drexel and Memphis should have won last night. I say UI by 6

there lack of depth has been exposed. Coach K is going from playing 9 to playing 7. their starting 5 is as good as any in the country and now they won't have those lapses with the 8th and 9th players in the game that allow other teams to make runs at them.

[Carbon Copy]

purdue lost by 40 last night.

[rick8285]

purdue lost by 40 last night.
who gives a shit about Purdue, ever

[rick8285]

IU is the deepest team in the Big Ten. Duke won't be able to keep up on the break and we shoot 58% from behind the arc (65% from Free Throw).

[dmb1spe]

As a Kentucky fan, I hope it's a scoreless tie. That goes on forever. But my basketball IQ tells me Duke wins by a bunch. 15+. The simple fact is that Coach K is the best in the business right now, and Davis couldn't coach a two car funeral.

[rick8285]

Tonight's Theme:
Coaching isn't everything!
Hoosiers are RED
Devils are BLUE
Coach K is good
But I LOVE IU!

[rick8285]

if you haven't heard of Errek Suhr, by 11:00 Eastern, you will have heard enough

[paris72]

dude, you're from kentucky, but still...it's IU not UI

White-out will have a whole new meaning come tomorrow night! ;) :thumbsup ;) :thumbsup ;)

:lol :lol

I just saw this again today...sorry

Anyway, IU by 3. I think Chewie will have some trouble in the paint. Hope Indiana guards tough on the perimeter shot. JJ will be launching them.

[trippinbilli40]

dude, you're from kentucky, but still...it's IU not UI

White-out will have a whole new meaning come tomorrow night! ;) :thumbsup ;) :thumbsup ;)

you are from indiana. im not sure you really can talk shit about kentucky.

and it really doesnt matter if IU beats Duke (they wont) because UK's running a train on them when they play because...well we always beat the fucking shit out of IU.

So there.



im off to start to UK thread. whos with me.

[RJ2kWJ]

Mcroberts Scores The First Two!!!

Hes So Dirty!!!!!!!!!!

[RJ2kWJ]

TAKE A FUCKIN TIMEOUT INDY!!!

Your gettin TRAIN run on right now.

EIGHT - ZAP

[RJ2kWJ]

16-2

Whats goin on Indy???!?!?!?!?

[bubba40]

Are you guys going to miss Pat Ewing Jr, and how badly if so? Is he worth getting somewhat excited about?

<- why I am so curious

[paris72]

:lol

My predictions have been squashed!

[dman0808]

i guess since i go to IU for this year, (maybe next) i should try to get excited for this.

[bothedmbfan]

Because IU Basketball Tradition is about to return.

Marco Killingsworth
Robert Vaden
Earl Calloway
Lewis Monroe
Marshall Strickland
AJ Ratliff
Roderick Wilmont
Ben Allen
DJ White

The deepest team in Big Ten and possibly in the NCAA

http://iuhoosiers.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/101905aaa.html?pic=1

They won't even win the big ten.

[UNC41]

Indiana has the best player on the court right now. They just don't have the lead.

[RJ2kWJ]

Indiana has the best player on the court right now. They just don't have the lead.

You. Are. Nuts.

Maybe right NOW. Bout it.

[paris72]

Indiana has the best player on the court right now. They just don't have the lead.


And he's 9-9...:eek

[UNC41]

You. Are. Nuts.

Maybe right NOW. Bout it.

Well, Killingsworth has made the defending national defensive player of the year look medicore. He is easily playing the best basketball in this game, which I was implying.

[RJ2kWJ]

DAMN THIS is NUTS!!!!

[RJ2kWJ]

At 11:00 pm EASTERN Duke will be 5-1, nothing to be ashamed of, very good record!

Wait what? Could you type this again?

Not sure if I really read this correctly.

And what did I say?... Duke by 8?

[haildmb]

that's right. Duke wins, the ACC wins. all is right in the world. you all can go back to your lives now, there are no surprises tonight


edit: if it weren't for our stupid add-on teams, it would have been a complete ACC domination

[jumpstr24]

good game hell of a lot closer than 8 (JJ's layup that put Duke up for 5 plus the foul was definately the turning point)...oh and kentucky will lose to IU...

[paris72]

good game hell of a lot closer than 8 (JJ's layup that put Duke up for 5 plus the foul was definately the turning point)...oh and kentucky will lose to IU...

Hmm, well, we will put the double team on MK, then hope we are hot from the perimeter. You may be right. I see UK winning by 6, but only in the last 2 minutes of the game. Should be a good one.

[DMB4lifeMI]

Marco Killingsworth is as big as 10 dudes

[SmoothD41]

Just got back from the game.

IU showed that they aren't quite ready to run completely neck and neck with Duke....yet. If we had DJ White healthy we would have won that game with relative ease. Without White IU is a top 20 team, with White they are top 10-12 i guarantee you that.

Two things are for damn sure:

1) Marco Killingsworth is a beast. One of the most dominant big men in all the land.

2) JJ Reddick, like him or not, is UNBELIEVABLE. Best player in the nation.

[rick8285]

It's a moral victory...ok no it's not.

JJ Redick, is an extremely good player. Hats off to him, but I fuckin' hate Paulus (or however you spell it).

Duke is good, but honestly I saw an IU squad out there tonight, that I'm extremely proud of. We'll be a force to be reckoned with in the big dance. Once we get DJ White back, LOOK OUT!

PS - Dickie V wants to suck JJ Redick's dick...and Coach K

[SmoothD41]

PS - Dickie V wants to suck JJ Redick's dick...and Coach K

"wants to"? How about "does"

[paris72]

PS - Dickie V wants to suck JJ Redick's dick...and Coach K

:lol

[rick8285]

:lol
Oh, and Tubby's cheating Wildcats are going down December 10 pretty damn hard. RCA Dome will get rowdy!

[paris72]

Oh, and Tubby's cheating Wildcats are going down December 10 pretty damn hard. RCA Dome will get rowdy!

:lol Cheating?

Mike Davis may get arrested during that game. I'll be watching:p

[rick8285]

:lol Cheating?

Mike Davis may get arrested during that game. I'll be watching:p
people declaring and going undrafted and crying back to Momma Tubby!

[UNC41]

people declaring and going undrafted and crying back to Momma Tubby!

I hate Duke more than you hate jelly, but its not like Tubby and the rest of the team wanted, or thought Morris was ready to go pro.

[rick8285]

I hate Duke more than you hate jelly, but its not like Tubby and the rest of the team wanted, or thought Morris was ready to go pro.
I'm not understanding this Jelly reference...could you enlighten me?

[rick8285]

I'll put money on my Hoosiers winning the Big Ten, you can take any other team. Not all the other teams, you'd have to pick one.

[UNC41]

I'm not understanding this Jelly reference...could you enlighten me?

Kentucky = KY = Jelly

[UNC41]

I'll put money on my Hoosiers winning the Big Ten, you can take any other team. Not all the other teams, you'd have to pick one.

If Killingsworth plays like he is human Indiana doesn't win the Big Ten. If he plays like whatever he was tonight, and D.J. continues his progression, Indiana will be tough. If Paul Davis plays like he cares Michigan St. can easily win the Big Ten. Indiana will struggle to contain Ager and Brown.

If... if... if

It's December and not March and a lot of stuff can happen.

[paris72]

If Killingsworth plays like he is human Indiana doesn't win the Big Ten. If he plays like whatever he was tonight, and D.J. continues his progression, Indiana will be tough. If Paul Davis plays like he cares Michigan St. can easily win the Big Ten. Indiana will struggle to contain Ager and Brown.

If... if... if

It's December and not March and a lot of stuff can happen.

Amen. Indiana will slide when UK beats them next weekend on a last second three from Sparks. Why you ask? Because Davis will lose his job when he sets the Dome on fire and assaults two refs.

[rick8285]

Amen. Indiana will slide when UK beats them next weekend on a last second three from Sparks. Why you ask? Because Davis will lose his job when he sets the Dome on fire and assaults two refs.
you must have a special disgust for Mike Davis. I don't love the guy, hell, I hardly respect him. He's gotta lot of people to convince down here. If we don't win a game or two in the tournament, he's out of a job for sure!

[rick8285]

PS - Killingsworth is not human! He'll be doing that all season, and when DJ is back, trouble's a brewin'

[UNC41]

PS - Killingsworth is not human! He'll be doing that all season, and when DJ is back, trouble's a brewin'

Generally, however, guard play dominates March. Indiana is lacking there.

[rick8285]

Generally, however, guard play dominates March. Indiana is lacking there.
Wow, Marshall Strickland and Robert Vaden are two of the top guards in the Big-Ten. Not to mention Earl Calloway's insane speed at the point, and the bench play of AJ Ratliff and Roderick Wilmont!

We're sooooo deep at the guard position it's kinda unfair.

[rick8285]

Generally, however, guard play dominates March. Indiana is lacking there.
we would crush you're Tar Heels this year!

[UNC41]

Wow, Marshall Strickland and Robert Vaden are two of the top guards in the Big-Ten. Not to mention Earl Calloway's insane speed at the point, and the bench play of AJ Ratliff and Roderick Wilmont!

We're sooooo deep at the guard position it's kinda unfair.

I haven't seen Indiana play this year before tonight. I agree Strickland and Vaden are two good guards, but not great. IU's backcourt seemed to force things late in the game tonight and were heavily outplayed throughout the game. Redick and Paulus were the two best guards on the court tonight.

Michigan State has hands down the best backcourt in the Big 10. As for second, you can argue between Indiana, Iowa and Illinois.

[UNC41]

we would crush you're Tar Heels this year!

You and 30 other teams in the nation. I don't have huge expectations for a team that lost its seven best players from last year.

[skatcat]

Wow, Marshall Strickland and Robert Vaden are two of the top guards in the Big-Ten. Not to mention Earl Calloway's insane speed at the point, and the bench play of AJ Ratliff and Roderick Wilmont!

We're sooooo deep at the guard position it's kinda unfair.

Yeah! Your almost as deep as UK at the guard position. :rolleyes

[rick8285]

You and 30 other teams in the nation. I don't have huge expectations for a team that lost its seven best players from last year.
cry cry cry


but seriously, I can't wait for my Hoosiers to make believers out of the rest of the nation outside of our little bubble. We know we're good, but it'll take a big win to make believers out there. We thought it would be tonight, but I guarantee victory 12-10 in Indy with the Wildcats!

[paris72]

I don't hate Mike Davis, I just know he gets carried away sometimes. It's a miracle he still has a job anyway

[rick8285]

I don't hate Mike Davis, I just know he gets carried away sometimes. It's a miracle he still has a job anyway
well they wanted to give his current senior transfers a chance to play for him (Marco Killingsworth and Lewis Monroe), also Vaden and White are unlikely to be very pleased with a new coach. He'll most likely be the Indiana coach for their respective tenures at IU.

[UNC41]

cry cry cry


but seriously, I can't wait for my Hoosiers to make believers out of the rest of the nation outside of our little bubble. We know we're good, but it'll take a big win to make believers out there. We thought it would be tonight, but I guarantee victory 12-10 in Indy with the Wildcats!

Cry? You made it seem like a feat that Indiana has a better team than UNC. I said the Tar Heels are not that good. How is that crying?

[UNC41]

well they wanted to give his current senior transfers a chance to play for him (Marco Killingsworth and Lewis Monroe), also Vaden and White are unlikely to be very pleased with a new coach. He'll most likely be the Indiana coach for their respective tenures at IU.

Davis will have to learn how to keep the state's best talent at home if he wants to keep his job.

[skatcat]

I don't hate Mike Davis, I just know he gets carried away sometimes. It's a miracle he still has a job anyway

I hate him. I wouldn't let him coach me taking a shit. He is a terrible coach. Indiana can do better than him.

[paris72]

I hate him. I wouldn't let him coach me taking a shit. He is a terrible coach. Indiana can do better than him.


Sweet:lol

[TempHelpNeeded]

Wait till next year when Greg Oden & the Bucks go wild on you!

[rick8285]

Wait till next year when Greg Oden & the Bucks go wild on you!
ok, wow...you're already looking to next year? It's hardly December

[RJ2kWJ]

cry cry cry


. We thought it would be tonight, but I guarantee victory 12-10 in Indy with the Wildcats!

That's what happens when you think. :lol

Good game though. Indi is rugged... and just as you all are gonna be better with your guy back... were excited to get Demarcus back.... oh yes.

[onemoredrink41]

:lol :lol :lol :lol Just what I thought.

[onemoredrink41]

cry cry cry


but seriously, I can't wait for my Hoosiers to make believers out of the rest of the nation outside of our little bubble. We know we're good, but it'll take a big win to make believers out there. We thought it would be tonight, but I guarantee victory 12-10 in Indy with the Wildcats!


You wont beat the cats just like you said you would be duke because you were playing in indy! :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[rick8285]

You wont beat the cats just like you said you would be duke because you were playing in indy! :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
I'm failing to make sense out of this post...

[rick8285]

IU is Final Four material!

[skatcat]

I know it is impossible, let us at least let the Loosiers dream. What if: A) Kentucky does not show up? This may seem a great idea but since everyone knows Kentucky would have won anyway, the refs must award UK the game. B) Kentucky spots Indiana 30 points to begin the game? Kentucky still wins but it might keep the game close. C) Mike Davis and the rest of the Indiana Loosiers crawl on hands and knees to the Kentucky bench and begs Tubby to take pitty on them and show Indiana mercy? This would bring a tear to Tubbys eyes no doubt, but even if Tubby wanted Indiana to win, they couldn't beat Kentucky anyway. There you have it, the only 3 ways Indiana might win.

this is from www.firemikedavis.com. HILARIOUS!

[skatcat]

The Indiana Team played their heart out tonight and Killingsworth had an incredible game. It's too bad that in the last 3 minutes they were running around like a chicken with it's head cut off. They didn't know what to do. It's pretty clear that they need some guidance and Mike Davis can't offer them any. They have the talent this year but this is the first of many top losses to come this year. The next one will be from Kentucky

Another great quote from www.firemikedavis.com. Seems there are people in Indiana that realize they are one good coach away from bringing back that winning tradition.

[rick8285]

The Indiana Team played their heart out tonight and Killingsworth had an incredible game. It's too bad that in the last 3 minutes they were running around like a chicken with it's head cut off. They didn't know what to do. It's pretty clear that they need some guidance and Mike Davis can't offer them any. They have the talent this year but this is the first of many top losses to come this year. The next one will be from Kentucky

Another great quote from www.firemikedavis.com. Seems there are people in Indiana that realize they are one good coach away from bringing back that winning tradition.
it's its

[skatcat]

Hey i copied and pasted, a fellow hoosier wrote that.

[seekupig]

The Indiana Team played their heart out tonight and Killingsworth had an incredible game. It's too bad that in the last 3 minutes they were running around like a chicken with it's head cut off. They didn't know what to do. It's pretty clear that they need some guidance and Mike Davis can't offer them any. They have the talent this year but this is the first of many top losses to come this year. The next one will be from Kentucky

Another great quote from www.firemikedavis.com (http://www.firemikedavis.com). Seems there are people in Indiana that realize they are one good coach away from bringing back that winning tradition.

they're pretty young. they'll get better as the season goes on. look at Kansas and UNC at the end of close games, they're the same way. don't see anyone calling for Roy or Self to be fired. Mike Davis will never be able to do enough to satisfy a lot of the people there.

[skatcat]

Killingsworth should have been back in the game a lot sooner down the stretch than he was. Bad coaching move, or maybe he was tired. who knows?

[UNC41]

Mike Davis will never be able to do enough to satisfy a lot of the people there.

Like I said earlier. Davis' problem is not being able to keep the top instate talent in Indiana. If he goes down, that will be why.

[rick8285]

Like I said earlier. Davis' problem is not being able to keep the top instate talent in Indiana. If he goes down, that will be why.
As many big name recruits that he has lost from IN, he's brought in the talent from elsewhere: Maryland, New Jersey, ALABAMA!

If there's only one thing he does well, which may be true, it's recruit. Let's see if he is able to get Bobbie Hummel from Valparaiso, 5-star Junior recruit.

[seekupig]

Indiana St.? did Larry Bird get his eligibility back?

[skywalker_009]

Indiana St.? did Larry Bird get his eligibility back?

damn... you totally took my line:(...

[twk13]

does anyone have a clip of those hilarious bobby knight comments that they showed at the end of season on the brink: the bobby knight story starring brian dennehy as bobby knight

[UNC41]

As many big name recruits that he has lost from IN, he's brought in the talent from elsewhere: Maryland, New Jersey, ALABAMA!

If there's only one thing he does well, which may be true, it's recruit. Let's see if he is able to get Bobbie Hummel from Valparaiso, 5-star Junior recruit.

He's such a great recuiter that Sean May, Josh McRoberts, Greg Oden and Mike Conely left state?

[UNC41]

Indiana St.? did Larry Bird get his eligibility back?

Yeah, him and Butch McRae saved the program.

[rick8285]

He's such a great recuiter that Sean May, Josh McRoberts, Greg Oden and Mike Conely left state?
You can't grab everyone. If my kid had a shot to play at Duke under Coach K, I'd probably recommend that to him, the guy's the best coach ever.

[rick8285]

looking goooooood!

[SatelliteEyes]

Go BIG TEN!!!

- From a Wisconsin fan.

[dmbphan041]

"when I die, I hope they bury me upsidedown so the whole world can kiss my ass."

-Bobby Knight

[rick8285]

Tubby's boys are tough...NOT

Can't buy a shot!

[rick8285]

We finally beat a Blue and White team! (1-2)

[jumpstr24]

I went to the game....it was phenomenal.....Ratliff broke out of his slump and DJ and James Hardy both dressed....Kentucky couldnt hit a shot for anything 0-20 of threes at one point was ridiculous

[rick8285]

I'd like to see Hardy sitting the bench all year...he's good at one sport...it's Football.

We're sooooo deep that we don't ever need him to see action

[rick8285]

Boo Yah

[trippinbilli40]

damn

[clayj41]

Great game yesterday, I love to see UK go down like that.

[trippinbilli40]

damn

[twk13]

no help with the bobby knight clips?

[rick8285]

damn
wow...it's courage that gave you the ability to come to this thread and post!

i appreciate that, just know that ur cats are overrated as fuck...won't even be in the next top 25

[dmb1spe]

wow...it's courage that gave you the ability to come to this thread and post!

i appreciate that, just know that ur cats are overrated as fuck...won't even be in the next top 25

You're a fucking fool.

We'll see who ends up higher and who goes further in the tourney.

I'm just surprised that Davis didn't act like some spoiled child in this Kentucky game. First one I can remember that he didn't do something, say something, or cause his team to lose the game.

[rick8285]

You're a fucking fool.

We'll see who ends up higher and who goes further in the tourney.

I'm just surprised that Davis didn't act like some spoiled child in this Kentucky game. First one I can remember that he didn't do something, say something, or cause his team to lose the game.
rip on davis all you want...our team is good...he's not playing, he's coaching.

[dmb1spe]

rip on davis all you want...our team is good...he's not playing, he's coaching.

You've been awfully quiet lately. Did it take you all week to come up with that?

[beer_n_dmb]

rip on davis all you want...our team is good...he's not playing, he's coaching.

How are you feeling about tonight's game? IU has been playing great ball. I like them tonight. The line is only 3 pts, I jumped on that. Hoping for a big win.

[dmb1spe]

I know a lot of people who root for both Maryland and IU.

:rolleyes

[beer_n_dmb]

I know a lot of people who root for both Maryland and IU.

:rolleyes

They must have loved 2002 then. UMD fans shouldn't have a problem with IU, its other ACC teams we can't say we like.

Seriously, I am happy to see IU doing well. For some reason, I really like the enthusiasm and style of the coach.

Plus I bet on them tonight, so they are my favorite team today.

[jumpstr24]

Good win against Michigan. Tough schedule for IU coming up. Next three games are against Ohio St., Illinois, and @ Michigan State, this will be tough..

[dmb1spe]

Probably 3 losses. And then this thread will die quietly.

[SmoothD41]

Probably 3 losses. And then this thread will die quietly.

2 out of 3 wins, if not 3 out of 3.....IU is tough, especially if Robert Vaden plays like he can.

[rick8285]

IU Will destroy OSU...

Go Hoooosiers!

[SmoothD41]

Just got back from the game a little while ago....Big win today. I didn't think it'd be that close, but I guess it's good that we won in a grind it out kinda fashion because most of our wins have been blowouts. The 2nd half was so intense, especially when Dials picked up his 5th foul, but somehow it got called on somebody else. The officiating was shockingly bad today, and definitely seemed to favor OSU. 81-79 win, but without Dials' ghost, it would have been 81-70 because his ghost scored the last 9 points for them. He finally became the first player to ever foul out in NCAA with 6 fouls, and it was a fitting way for IU to win the game with the resulting free throws. I hate you Terence Dials, go to hell.

[jumpstr24]

Terence Dials is the devil....that was a terrible call. First half was flat out ridiculous on IU's part that was bad basketball. Second half was some hot ass shooting though. OSU is not that good, they missed everyshot by a mile and we never got the rebounds. All in all a good win but we didn't play well, we need to pick it up for Wednesday when we go to Michigan State.

[rick8285]

Defense looked god awful in the first half...letting people dribble right down the lane and then no one was boxing out. I feel like the officials were horrible but favored no one really. In the second half, there was a whistle damn near every time down the court. Whenever there's a game with about 23 second-half fouls and two carries, and a lane violation called...the officials are over-doing themselves.

If you two were at the game...wanna explain to me why everyone booed that jump-ball call with Wilmont? If it weren't for that one, we wouldn't have had the ball at the end on that last jump call.

[rick8285]

IU has the tools and talent to get to the final four!

you heard it here first!

[jumpstr24]

DJ will be missed but i do not know how much. He isnt a huge part of our team like we was last year. Hopefully, Ben and Sean step up to fill his the void in our team now. I feel bad for DJ, that really does suck.

I also feel that we are a little overranked. 8th is great but the next two games will tell us a lot about this team.

And on a side note Kentucky blows, cannot be happier to see them out of the polls!!

[rick8285]

DJ will be missed but i do not know how much. He isnt a huge part of our team like we was last year. Hopefully, Ben and Sean step up to fill his the void in our team now. I feel bad for DJ, that really does suck.

I also feel that we are a little overranked. 8th is great but the next two games will tell us a lot about this team.

And on a side note Kentucky blows, cannot be happier to see them out of the polls!!
The loss of DJ is huge, but all that will mean is that Ben Allen will get playing time that he deserved anyways. I think that if he continues to play like he did early in the season and if he improves his defense in the post, we'll be equally as tough as we could be with DJ

[SmoothD41]

If you two were at the game...wanna explain to me why everyone booed that jump-ball call with Wilmont? If it weren't for that one, we wouldn't have had the ball at the end on that last jump call.

I don't remember exactly what happened, but I don't think it should have been called a jump ball. It seems like it was still very much up for grabs, and it gave OSU the ball on a crucial possession at the time....yes, it turned out to be a good thing for us, but at the time it was bad.

Sucks for White, and I can't wait to hear the inevitable blame that people place on Mike Davis for playing him too much who still think Bob Knight is our coach.

I have to admit I was shocked we moved up all the way to 8, i figured 12 at the most. These next two games are huge, it'd be awesome to steal one at Mich. State and make them 0-3. Hopefully Marco continues his high level of play, we definitely can't afford an inconsistent Killingsworth especially with White out.

[rick8285]

I don't remember exactly what happened, but I don't think it should have been called a jump ball. It seems like it was still very much up for grabs, and it gave OSU the ball on a crucial possession at the time....yes, it turned out to be a good thing for us, but at the time it was bad.

Sucks for White, and I can't wait to hear the inevitable blame that people place on Mike Davis for playing him too much who still think Bob Knight is our coach.

I have to admit I was shocked we moved up all the way to 8, i figured 12 at the most. These next two games are huge, it'd be awesome to steal one at Mich. State and make them 0-3. Hopefully Marco continues his high level of play, we definitely can't afford an inconsistent Killingsworth especially with White out.
what really is crucial at MSU is that Marco keeps Paul Davis under wraps...because their guards have been shouldering the load on offense and shooting very poorly. If we continue to keep the pressure on them by limiting Davis' touches in the paint, I think we'll have them beat.

[rick8285]

Humongous game tomorrow night...all eyes on dem Hooooooosiers!

Let's Do It!

[rick8285]

I'm pumped already...only 5 more hours!

[clayj41]

Its gonna be tough to be Mich. St. at the Izzone, but they haven't been playing well lately, so who knows. Go HOOSIERS!!!:multi

[SmoothD41]

1 hour and 45 minutes

It feels so damn good to be so pumped for IU Basketball again after a 3 year drought.

[rick8285]

Indiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaana Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosierrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrs

[rick8285]

Bobbie V!

[rick8285]

Second half team!

41-39

[rick8285]

Second half team!

41-39
Road Games in the Big Ten are damn hard

[SmoothD41]

damn, that sure got ugly in a hurry

Oh well, not really that big of a deal. We'll probably slide down to 11 or 12, I don't think many people expected us to go in to Mich. State and pull out a win, awfully hard to do.

But this game did reinforce how much we are going to miss DJ. Kline is worthless, and Ben Allen is not taking advantage of any minutes that he sees. Killingsworth unfortunately can't carry the load inside by himself.

Big game on Tuesday against Illinois, we need to protect our turf and beat another quality team.

[rick8285]

damn, that sure got ugly in a hurry

Oh well, not really that big of a deal. We'll probably slide down to 11 or 12, I don't think many people expected us to go in to Mich. State and pull out a win, awfully hard to do.

But this game did reinforce how much we are going to miss DJ. Kline is worthless, and Ben Allen is not taking advantage of any minutes that he sees. Killingsworth unfortunately can't carry the load inside by himself.

Big game on Tuesday against Illinois, we need to protect our turf and beat another quality team.
Ben Allen's not getting enough PT to expect results from though. Davis is an idiot with his substitutions!

PS - Allen and DJ are in my exercise science class

[jumpstr24]

You ever talk to them?

[rick8285]

You ever talk to them?

nah...played Poker with Vaden last year. He rivered me for two pair to beat my top pair with ace high. I was pissed, plus he was getting phone calls off the hook as we played. Haha

In my spare time I did this little point guard comparison. It's an attached .zip file with an .xls file inside.

[RJ2kWJ]

Man you all are playing like butt hole. 3 points in 8 minutes?

[RJ2kWJ]

Man you all are playing like butt hole. 3 points in 8 minutes?

Now Illinois is playing like butt.

[jumpstr24]

Take your Duke garbage out of this thread...

Im pretty sure i had a stroke somewhere in that game...letting a 15 lead slip away was tough on me..

Good win for sure though!

[rick8285]

it's the results that matter!

[jumpstr24]

word....when killingsworth was on the floor i wanted to cry along with Wilmont, he steps up when we need him to for sure...

[RJ2kWJ]

Take your Duke garbage out of this thread...

Im pretty sure i had a stroke somewhere in that game...letting a 15 lead slip away was tough on me..

Good win for sure though!

Ill throw my Duke garbage wherever I want... :D

You're just bitter about November 30th :D ...Congrats on the big win tonight though

[clayj41]

Wow, what a game! Wilmont is the man. I absolutely despise Robert Vaden, and he really showed how great he is tonight.:thumbsdow I'm glad we were still able to win despite his performance. I got to meet Dickie V, so it was definitely a good night.

[SmoothD41]

How can you despise Robert Vaden?? He's probably the best player on the court. Sure, he had an off night but who doesnt??

That was a hell of a game. I about crapped my pants on a few different occasions, but thankfully we pulled it out. I don't particularly care for Wilmont, but I love the energy he brings and we definitely wouldnt have won without him tonight. He was huge, Killingsworth was his usual monster in the second half after a horrendous first half. We completely shut down Dee Brown. I've noticed he hasn't really shown up for some of their biggest games (Mich. State, Indiana). It was also nice to see Allen connect on a couple big 3s, although I would like to see him become a bit more rounded. The one 2 pointer he shot was awful.

Should be a pushover on Saturday against Purdont, and then we need to take AT LEAST one on the road against either Iowa or Minnesota...both would be fantastic.

[clayj41]

How can you despise Robert Vaden?? He's probably the best player on the court. Sure, he had an off night but who doesnt??

That was a hell of a game. I about crapped my pants on a few different occasions, but thankfully we pulled it out. I don't particularly care for Wilmont, but I love the energy he brings and we definitely wouldnt have won without him tonight. He was huge, Killingsworth was his usual monster in the second half after a horrendous first half. We completely shut down Dee Brown. I've noticed he hasn't really shown up for some of their biggest games (Mich. State, Indiana). It was also nice to see Allen connect on a couple big 3s, although I would like to see him become a bit more rounded. The one 2 pointer he shot was awful.

Should be a pushover on Saturday against Purdont, and then we need to take AT LEAST one on the road against either Iowa or Minnesota...both would be fantastic.

First off, although I attend IU and am a natural Hoosier I'm a UNC fan at heart. I've always cheered for IU though as well. I just don't like Vaden though. In my opinion he takes way too many stupid shots. In a lot of games he happens to make these shots so you can't really say anything. Tonight however, some shots that he occasionally makes weren't falling. A lot of my Plus, there's something about his appearance is off-putting. :lol

[rick8285]

Were any of you at the game? Did you see that video at halftime with the team dancing to that song that dude wrote? You know that grammy winning writer who goes here? That video was flat out awesome...made us look like a bunch of thugs...but AWESOME nonetheless!

PS - If you hate Robert Vaden, you're both a moron and not a Hoosier Fan!

PPS - Wilmont is the hardest working Hoosier and ALWAYS flies for the loose ball!

[41ravens]

Just out of curiousity, why did people rush the court? I'm not trying to start shit. I may live here, but I'm not really that big of an Illini fan. Arizona at heart, but they suck ass. That's for another time. I just thought it was odd that fans rushed the court. I mean, it wasn't even really an upset. Indiana was favored, correct? Plus, it wasn't like Illinois was undefeated or anything. I just thought that rushing the court was weird, that's all.

[rick8285]

Just out of curiousity, why did people rush the court? I'm not trying to start shit. I may live here, but I'm not really that big of an Illini fan. Arizona at heart, but they suck ass. That's for another time. I just thought it was odd that fans rushed the court. I mean, it wasn't even really an upset. Indiana was favored, correct? Plus, it wasn't like Illinois was undefeated or anything. I just thought that rushing the court was weird, that's all.
we like to rush the court...what can i say

No, but I did agree it didn't warrant a rushing!

[41ravens]

Yeah, I'm guessing it still dates back to last year where everyone views Illinois as the number 1 team in the country. I was actually at the Ohio St. game that they lost last year (their only one of the regular season). Now that warranted a rushing.

[SmoothD41]

I was at the game, and I really wish our fans wouldn't have rushed the court. Besides the fact that it makes us look like we were completely stunned to beat them, it wasn't really an upset to begin with. We were favored to win that game. Usually fans rush the court if they are big underdogs. It was a #11 home team beating a #5. Good win for us definitely, but not really an upset in my mind.

That rap video from Lance Bennett at halftime shattered the unintentional comedy scale. Bob Knight would have shit his pants if something like that would have surfaced when he was here. Terrible

[rick8285]

I was at the game, and I really wish our fans wouldn't have rushed the court. Besides the fact that it makes us look like we were completely stunned to beat them, it wasn't really an upset to begin with. We were favored to win that game. Usually fans rush the court if they are big underdogs. It was a #11 home team beating a #5. Good win for us definitely, but not really an upset in my mind.

That rap video from Lance Bennett at halftime shattered the unintentional comedy scale. Bob Knight would have shit his pants if something like that would have surfaced when he was here. Terrible
frankly i thought the video was awesome...

[clayj41]

PS - If you hate Robert Vaden, you're both a moron and not a Hoosier Fan!

...guess I'm not a fan then. Oh well, I'll continue to support them.

[jumpstr24]

Ill throw my Duke garbage wherever I want... :D

You're just bitter about November 30th :D ...Congrats on the big win tonight though

haha your right....good win against NC State...( that sucks saying sorry)

[jumpstr24]

Vaden is the bomb....somedays he can suck but that will happen somedays. Wilmont has been one of my favorite bench players since he has been attending IU, glad to see him play good last night.

It feels really good to see us do well this year instead of the last two. The past two seasons have hurt bad..even though i liked last years' team (we seemed to always show up against the good teams and lose by a little and not a lot compared to the year before)

[clayj41]

Vaden is the bomb....somedays he can suck but that will happen somedays. Wilmont has been one of my favorite bench players since he has been attending IU, glad to see him play good last night.

It feels really good to see us do well this year instead of the last two. The past two seasons have hurt bad..even though i liked last years' team (we seemed to always show up against the good teams and lose by a little and not a lot compared to the year before)

I guess despise is strong word, but I do dislike him because of his inconsistency. Also, its great to see the team playing well again. I was a freshman in 2003, so its nice to finally see a good season.

[jumpstr24]

How do you guys feel about Mike Davis as a head coach? (Please, PLEASE IU fans only answer this question, i do not want to start a topic of pure hate that some people tend to have for him, he doesnt deserve that)

anyways, i personally like him...he is different from Bobby (Bobby is still my favorite) and the players seem to love him. He lead us to a Final Four appearance in 2002 but hasnt been back to the tourney since that ugly lose to Pittsburg in 2003. I think he has done a good job with what has been available to him.

To all the haters i do not believe he deserves a lot of the shit he gets from people.....

[jumpstr24]

I guess despise is strong word, but I do dislike him because of his inconsistency. Also, its great to see the team playing well again. I was a freshman in 2003, so its nice to finally see a good season.

if i choose to go to IU, which i damn sure i want to, i will start in the fall of 2007...Vaden and DJ's last year, hopefully they stay around for me to be able to watch them while at IU....

[clayj41]

I think he has received some unfair criticism simply because he isn't Bob Knight. Knight was, and still is, a hero in this state and people are still angry about him getting shafted. Davis just happened to take over a team that was coached by this hero, so no matter what he did he was gonna be criticized. Do I think that these past two seasons would have been as bad with Knight as coach? No, but we'll never know. One great thing about Davis is his recruiting abilities. I don't think he's the greatest coach in the world, but he definitely gets a bad rap.

[clayj41]

if i choose to go to IU, which i damn sure i want to, i will start in the fall of 2007...Vaden and DJ's last year, hopefully they stay around for me to be able to watch them while at IU....

Cool, hope to see you here. I think they'll both stay. White could've possibly left early, but I think his injuries will change that.

[rick8285]

w00t! 1/2 game back of Wisconsin in big ten

[UNC41]

How do you guys feel about Mike Davis as a head coach? (Please, PLEASE IU fans only answer this question, i do not want to start a topic of pure hate that some people tend to have for him, he doesnt deserve that)

anyways, i personally like him...he is different from Bobby (Bobby is still my favorite) and the players seem to love him. He lead us to a Final Four appearance in 2002 but hasnt been back to the tourney since that ugly lose to Pittsburg in 2003. I think he has done a good job with what has been available to him.

To all the haters i do not believe he deserves a lot of the shit he gets from people.....

I'm not a IU fan so I'm not going to critique his coaching, but one thing he needs to learn how to do is to keep the best talent in Indiana at home.

[clayj41]

I'm not a IU fan so I'm not going to critique his coaching, but one thing he needs to learn how to do is to keep the best talent in Indiana at home.

:thumbsup but he does pull in some other good talent. It would be nice though if he could get some Indiana players though considering you'd be pressed to find a better pool of talent in any other state.

[adamreichle22]

IU fan here. Just now noticed this thread. I just wanted to add a few things to this.

It kicks ass to finally see IU be an elite team again. If the NCAA's started today, IU would probably be a 3 or 4 seed, which is much better than NIT. Although, I know, there's still a lot of basketball left to be played. All I know is that March of '02 was the best month of my life, and I would give anything to see it repeated, and hopefully go one step further and win it all. I think we have to be contenders at this point.

Vaden most definately does not suck. He can be slightly inconsistent at times, and when he's down, he can be really down. But are people forgetting that early in the year he hit 12 straight threes? That was three shy of an NCAA record. The man is a very smart player and is comparable to Derron Williams from Illinois last year, only a better shooter. He is also athletic as hell.

Hopefully, DJ White is back sooner than expected, because I like him alot. I think that if he is healthy, he can be every bit as good as Killingsworth. Killer is a frickin beast and made Sheldon Williams look like a sixth grader, but he can make the stupidest plays sometimes. I think he leads the team in TO's as a center. DJ was really smart as a freshman last year and I had high hopes for him this year. With him being out, Allen does get more minutes that usual, but he's not at all a post player. Damn is he accurate from three point land, though.

I think it was great to come out of that three game stretch with two wins. That MSU game got ugly, but NOBODY wins at the Izzone. At least we get to play PU at home tomorrow. IU needs to win out in home games the rest of the year. That even means the non-conference game against UConn. If we can split our conference road games, we are golden. That would at least get us second in the Big Ten and warrant a 2 or 3 seed.

Sorry for the rant, I just had to let out my excitement for Indiana right now. It's been a rough couple of years, but we're on the right track. It really is a great time to be an IU fan. UK sucks, PU sucks even harder, and we are near the top of the best conference in the country. I can't wait to see how this season unfolds. Go Hoosiers!

[SmoothD41]

IU fan here. Just now noticed this thread. I just wanted to add a few things to this.

It kicks ass to finally see IU be an elite team again. If the NCAA's started today, IU would probably be a 3 or 4 seed, which is much better than NIT. Although, I know, there's still a lot of basketball left to be played. All I know is that March of '02 was the best month of my life, and I would give anything to see it repeated, and hopefully go one step further and win it all. I think we have to be contenders at this point.

Vaden most definately does not suck. He can be slightly inconsistent at times, and when he's down, he can be really down. But are people forgetting that early in the year he hit 12 straight threes? That was three shy of an NCAA record. The man is a very smart player and is comparable to Derron Williams from Illinois last year, only a better shooter. He is also athletic as hell.

Hopefully, DJ White is back sooner than expected, because I like him alot. I think that if he is healthy, he can be every bit as good as Killingsworth. Killer is a frickin beast and made Sheldon Williams look like a sixth grader, but he can make the stupidest plays sometimes. I think he leads the team in TO's as a center. DJ was really smart as a freshman last year and I had high hopes for him this year. With him being out, Allen does get more minutes that usual, but he's not at all a post player. Damn is he accurate from three point land, though.

I think it was great to come out of that three game stretch with two wins. That MSU game got ugly, but NOBODY wins at the Izzone. At least we get to play PU at home tomorrow. IU needs to win out in home games the rest of the year. That even means the non-conference game against UConn. If we can split our conference road games, we are golden. That would at least get us second in the Big Ten and warrant a 2 or 3 seed.

Sorry for the rant, I just had to let out my excitement for Indiana right now. It's been a rough couple of years, but we're on the right track. It really is a great time to be an IU fan. UK sucks, PU sucks even harder, and we are near the top of the best conference in the country. I can't wait to see how this season unfolds. Go Hoosiers!

love it :thumbsup

[SmoothD41]

wow, what an ugly, ugly win. Oh well, can't complain I guess.

Two big national TV road games coming up, Iowa and Minnesota. A split would be nice, a sweep would be fantastic :thumbsup

We really need to get Ratliff more involved, he needs to be more agressive. Hell, the guy won Mr. Basketball in Indiana, that's saying something. Granted, he wouldn't have won it if Vaden wouldn't have went to prep school, but still...he is SO MUCH better than he has been playing this year.

[rick8285]

wow, what an ugly, ugly win. Oh well, can't complain I guess.

Two big national TV road games coming up, Iowa and Minnesota. A split would be nice, a sweep would be fantastic :thumbsup

We really need to get Ratliff more involved, he needs to be more agressive. Hell, the guy won Mr. Basketball in Indiana, that's saying something. Granted, he wouldn't have won it if Vaden wouldn't have went to prep school, but still...he is SO MUCH better than he has been playing this year.
Ratliff is a stud, it took him longer to come back from that injury mentally that physically. PS - Those referees were some of the worst I've ever seen in my life. First time I've complained at an IU game about officiating, but it was god awful. Yes, we played pretty bad at times, but that run near capped off by Wilmont's Three was sick. KLEIN'S Block was INSANE!

[rick8285]

on another high note, we should move way up in the next poll having beaten IL and all the other teams that've lost

[jumpstr24]

Went to the game tonight...and wow was it ugly...however it was a win and its pretty unrealistic (imo) for people to think IU is going to beat their rival by 40 pts no matter how bad they are....people in the crowd next to me were pissin' me off (only rant of the day besides the fact that that could have been the ugliest win in the world)

Hopefully that three gets Ratliff going again...we need him if we want to contend for the championship...we are a good team but we can be a GREAT team if we become better rounded...today our shot just seemed off and we need to work harder on helping out Marco when he gets double teamed....there were multiple times where a guard could have just moved parallel with Marco to get the ball instead of a cross court path...

one last thought i hated hearing Kline get fucking booed when he would come in...he does not deserve to be booed... i cheered my ass off when he had that block... a lot of IU fans are ass holes....but hopefully that is a minority...

[SmoothD41]

[quote=jumpstr24

one last thought i hated hearing Kline get fucking booed when he would come in...he does not deserve to be booed... i cheered my ass off when he had that block... a lot of IU fans are ass holes....but hopefully that is a minority...[/quote]


people that boo Sean Kline can rot in hell. I always make a point of standing up and cheering really loud when he comes in. Sure he's not that great of a player by any means, but you can tell that he tries so hard and he hussles more than anyone out there. He took two charges today in the limited time he was in, and had an awesome block. I'd like to see the people that boo him go out there and play. I love Sean Kline.

[rick8285]

people that boo Sean Kline can rot in hell. I always make a point of standing up and cheering really loud when he comes in. Sure he's not that great of a player by any means, but you can tell that he tries so hard and he hussles more than anyone out there. He took two charges today in the limited time he was in, and had an awesome block. I'd like to see the people that boo him go out there and play. I love Sean Kline.
I'm not the biggest fan of Kline, but the fact of the matter is, we need his presence. Sure, he's not gonna score hardly ever, but defensively, he's probably better than Marco. MK just cannot stop a big man down low. I also am disgusted with the boos. That's not fair, especially when we're winning the game.

That three from Ratliff was a huge confidence booster for him, I'm sure. Vaden's game was much improved from the other night, he looks to be back in form. In Marco's defense about the double teams though...during Purdue game, he wasn't double teamed--he was quadruple teamed, leaving him almost no seams to pass through. They (Purdue) were playing great team defense collapsing on him before he could even look for an open man, let alone, look to score.

PS - I just read this article by Andy Katz, although it mentions the Duke loss, he gives Assembly Hall mad props for being loud.---
"...Blue Devils didn't wilt when Indiana took a one-point lead on a Marco Killingsworth dunk with seven-plus minutes left back in November in the ACC-Big Ten Challenge. Duke came back in what was (at least for this reporter) the loudest arena (for a few possessions) in the country."

[clayj41]

Ratliff is a stud, it took him longer to come back from that injury mentally that physically. PS - Those referees were some of the worst I've ever seen in my life. First time I've complained at an IU game about officiating, but it was god awful. Yes, we played pretty bad at times, but that run near capped off by Wilmont's Three was sick. KLEIN'S Block was INSANE!


:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

[adamreichle22]

How about that Matt Keifer dunk? That was a gift from God. Yeah that game was ugly, but any win over Purdue makes me happy. Vaden and Wilmont were huge, not to mention Marco, who played maybe his best overall game of the year against a Purdue defense who obviously had scouted us well.

[jumpstr24]

There defense was pretty good...

[rick8285]

There defense was pretty good...
I was impressed with the D

[SmoothD41]

big road game tonight

I was kinda hoping we would move up and crack the top 10, but oh well. If we can take these next two on the road, which would be huge, we will definitely crack it.

[adamreichle22]

Yeah, I can't believe we didn't move up in the polls any, but michigan state moved up like 3 spots and are now ahead of IU. Not that the rankings mean anything though. Tonight's game will be very tough. Iowa, like just about any place in the Big Ten, is a tough place to win, and they just came off of a blowout by MSU. Great backcourt with horner and haluska. It would be massive if IU could pull this one out.

[jumpstr24]

we sucked last night...i was dissapointed in a big game like that...we wont be a top 10 team if we cant beat Iowa on the road....

[rick8285]

we sucked last night...i was dissapointed in a big game like that...we wont be a top 10 team if we cant beat Iowa on the road....
Horrible rebounding, Too many fouls, Davis coached poorly

[SmoothD41]

ehhh, I don't really think losing to Iowa on the road is a bad loss at all. Granted, we played like shit (except Bob Vaden, unreal), but I can't say I'm super suprised we came out with a loss. Now, if we loss at Minnesota on Sunday that'll be a bad loss. If we beat Minnesota, I think we'll move down 2-3 spots at the most.

[dacat]

IU is obviously much better this yr, but I don't think Davis can coach at all and think IU will be out in the 2nd round of the big dance, also Killingsworth is a no class punk

[sparty on]

you hoosiers had it rough last night. iowa's getting lucky. when they beat IL dee brown didnt do shit, and when they beat you killingsworth was off. bummer. looks like the big ten might be ours...:hump

[clayj41]

I retract all the previous statements I've made about Robert Vaden and now make them about the rest of the team.:lol

[jumpstr24]

i dont blame davis..im one as an athlete to blame myself rather than the coach..u gotta play well to win

[adamreichle22]

This game means nothing at this point. Coming in to the season, this was a game I was expecting to lose. The Big Ten is the deepest conference in the country. Nobody is going to do well on the road. That's really always the way it's been in the Big Ten. I think IU is fully capable of winning out in at home and losing only 2 or 3 more road games. Obviously, we have to win Sunday at Minnesota, at PSU, at MSU, at Purdue, and maybe even get lucky and steal one at Wisc. or UI. If we can finish 12-4 or 11-5, I think we could at least be in second place or in a tie for first place. Nobody will finish the conference unblemished or even close to it, so we don't have to be perfect, we just need to win the games we should and hopefully steal one that we shouldn't.

PS - Vaden is ridiculous.

[rick8285]

This game means nothing at this point. Coming in to the season, this was a game I was expecting to lose. The Big Ten is the deepest conference in the country. Nobody is going to do well on the road. That's really always the way it's been in the Big Ten. I think IU is fully capable of winning out in at home and losing only 2 or 3 more road games. Obviously, we have to win Sunday at Minnesota, at PSU, at MSU, at Purdue, and maybe even get lucky and steal one at Wisc. or UI. If we can finish 12-4 or 11-5, I think we could at least be in second place or in a tie for first place. Nobody will finish the conference unblemished or even close to it, so we don't have to be perfect, we just need to win the games we should and hopefully steal one that we shouldn't.

PS - Vaden is ridiculous.
A. We can and should finish 12-4 (Big Ten)
B. We don't play @ MSU, they're coming here, we already lost up there.
C. We CAN win in Champaign.
D. The team that wins the Big Ten will have 4 losses, I almost guarantee it.
E. Let's all root for the Wolverines to knock off another big opponent up in Ann Arbor!

EDIT: PS - I've had that Vaaaaaaaaden thing up under my screen name since the season started!

[adamreichle22]

B. We don't play @ MSU, they're coming here, we already lost up there.

I knew that. I meant to say @ Michigan, but after they beat MSU up there, I don't know about that even. The big 10 is just so damn good. Big East my ass.

[jumpstr24]

we are in trouble....i had to stop watching....why can they not win on the road...how can u beat illinois and play with duke and be down by 15 plus points to an 0-6 team in the big ten

[rick8285]

we are in trouble....i had to stop watching....why can they not win on the road...how can u beat illinois and play with duke and be down by 15 plus points to an 0-6 team in the big ten
i'm so angry that i wanna jump off a building!

[jumpstr24]

we are becoming the most overrated team in the nation....it is killing me...i dont understand how we beat good teams and lose to mediocre teams...my opinion on MD is starting to change and i do not like it..

[rick8285]

We get outcoached 99% of the time!

[skatcat]

We get outcoached 99% of the time!

I agree. I have nothing against IU teams, i just love seeing Mike D. get his ass handed to him. He is a terrible coach IMO.

[jumpstr24]

it is time for him to move on now...i will accept losing once in a while but u cant lose to Minnesota by 19!! Congrats to Minnesota though they played well (i'm assuming considered i only watched first 15 minutes and then things got ugly...)

[SmoothD41]

pathetic, absolutely pathetic.

Killingsworth is the most overrated player in the nation, and Davis is a truly awful coach that doesn't know how to make adjustments. We'll be lucky to stay in the Top 25, and even if we do we don't deserve to be there.

WE NEED YOU DJ, PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE HEAL.

[SmoothD41]

21st.....about what I expected. I honestly don't even think we're a top 25 team right now though. Any team that sucks SO BAD on the road doesn't deserve to be in there. And it's not like we've had any huge wins. Sure, Illinois was nice but I wouldn't call that an upset. We beat Kentucky but they're way down this year. We lost to Indiana State and got absolutely thrashed by Minnesota for crying out loud.

We need to take care of business on Wednesday for sure, and if we could somehow pull off a huge upset and knock off #1 UConn on Saturday, that'd be great :).

[jumpstr24]

this is the week to turn things around...if we dont we are in a world of hurt, never thought this would have happened with "Mike Davis's best team he ever has coached".......im hoping for it but i dont want to be crushed like years past...IU bball is the only team that can do this to me anymore

[adamreichle22]

Killingsworth is the most overrated player in the nation
Thank you. This is what I've been saying all year long. He is actually still in the running to be a first team all-american which is ridiculous. Yeah he torched Sheldon Williams, but then, he goes and scores 7 points against some crappy team. I've had to listen to everybody talk about how good his hands are. That couldn't be further from the truth. He acts like he's trying to lose the ball. And people are always talking about how patient he is. The thing is, though, is that he's too patient. He just looks lazy and he has no sense of urgency. Any old school fans remember Andrae Patterson? Killingsworth is like the reincarnation of him. I think we would be in such a better place right now if we had DJ White in the middle instead of Killingsworth. At least he is not a complete dumbass. Unfortunately, it looks like he is done for the season. And I'm not even gonna talk about the coaching. I want Davis gone, but you know that if he leaves, half the team is leaving with him. The season isn't over yet. If we lose to NW tonight, then I can safely say it's over. We can still get our shit together and play like we're capable of and hopefully finish strong. We just have to put the last week behind us.

[clayj41]

Pretty good game tonight, I just happened to be courtside. Suhr and Wilmont were very clutch tonight.

[rick8285]

Pretty good game tonight, I just happened to be courtside. Suhr and Wilmont were very clutch tonight.
Wilmont is the best all around player on the team. He's also the only GOOD defender!

[rick8285]

WHITE OUT!

I'll be the one wearing white in today's game on CBS.

[jumpstr24]

an upset would be so sweet today

[adamreichle22]

I'd like to think we have a chance of winning today, but I don't know. Well, I guess as long as it's at home, we always have a chance. But UConn is the number one team in the country for a reason. They are insanely deep. Rashad Anderson averages 14 a game coming off the bench. They are good at every position. And Jim Calhoun is an excellent coach. This would be huge to get an upset, but I'm not holding my breath.

[rick8285]

well at least we made it respectable...Davis' lack of halftime adjustments and poor Time Out usage was so ridiculous...

[SmoothD41]

White's absence is absolutely killing us right now. Marco is just not the same player that he was early on, to be honest with you I get nervous everytime he has the ball now. He isn't half the player many people think he is. We have absolutely no depth in our front court.

I don't know why Davis doesn't play Kline more. Sure he may not do a whole lot offensively, but at least he's physical and not afraid to take charges. Ben Allen is quite possibly my least favorite player ever, and is such a wuss.

That game was so frustrating, but UConn is unbelievable. I will be shocked if they don't win it all.

[jumpstr24]

we cant win on the road we dont deserve to be in the tourney right now...davis needs to be let go..(i hate saying it but its true, with all the hype about this team there is no reason y we cant win road games). Our record makes this team look good, anyone who watches them consistently knows we are overrated...

sincerely,
frustrated fan

[SmoothD41]

this team is honestly making me sick. I don't even think we are a top 50 team right now, let alone top 25. Any team that sucks SO BAD on the road doesn't deserve to be ranked, period.

It is truly unbelievable to watch them struggle so badly on the road. The old expression "they look like a completely different team" is 100 percent accurate with them. It looks like they've never played together before in their lives when they take it on the road. 29 percent from the floor???? What in the hell is going on with them??

When opposing fans are chanting "FIRE MIKE DAVIS!" you know something is seriously wrong. We are not a tournament caliber team right now, no way in hell.

God I miss DJ :(

[clayj41]

this team is honestly making me sick. I don't even think we are a top 50 team right now, let alone top 25. Any team that sucks SO BAD on the road doesn't deserve to be ranked, period.

It is truly unbelievable to watch them struggle so badly on the road. The old expression "they look like a completely different team" is 100 percent accurate with them. It looks like they've never played together before in their lives when they take it on the road. 29 percent from the floor???? What in the hell is going on with them??

When opposing fans are chanting "FIRE MIKE DAVIS!" you know something is seriously wrong. We are not a tournament caliber team right now, no way in hell.

God I miss DJ :(

:thumbsup I wholeheartedly agree with all of that.

[adamreichle22]

We are so sad. We're even at home right now and we suck. Killingsworth is the dumbest player to ever play for IU. Vaden isn't much better. At least Strickland is playing good. We don't deserve to make the NIT right now, let alone the NCAA. I thought this would be the year for IU. But like always, it's February and I feel like an idiot for ever liking this team. Davis better not be here next year. If by some miracle Davis leaves and DJ doesn't, and we get a good coach like Majerus or someone, things might be looking up in the long run. But I don't think there's any doubt that Davis is coaching his last year with IU.

[SmoothD41]

what a fucking joke.

Davis can't handle pressure, plain and simple. That's why he didn't show up today. If you look at team photos from 6-7 years ago, Davis looks like he's about 30 years old. Look at him now and he looks like he's damn near 60. His time here is coming to an end. If we lose to Penn State on Wednesday, I would almost guarantee he'll be gone on Thursday.

We are a sad, sad team right now. I have no idea why Kline doesn't get more playing time. Ben Allen is the biggest puss to ever put on an IU uniform and he has NO IDEA how to play defense.

We're no longer competing to win the big ten, we're competing just to get in the tournament. Right now, at 13-8 and 5-5 we are the epitome of a bubble team. We don't deserve to get in right now, but I think that we will when all is said and done. And who knows, we could definitely make a run in the tournament. Our problem is we are so damn inconsistent, and that is what is going to kill us.

[jumpstr24]

The last five minutes resulted in some good basketball, i give the guys credit for getting back into it after being down by 15 points. We definately can pull out of this slump if we build off of those last 5 minutes...the defense was better today, there were a lot of times where we forced them to take shots with under 5 seconds left in the shot clock..(it still wasnt good but better than previous times, i dont understand how brunner could drive in on us so many times)

Anyone else hear the rumors that davis has resigned and it will be official tomorrow??

[rick8285]

current rumors circulating out of a newspaper in Minnesota that Mike will be fired in 48 hours or less and that Marco may be suspended from the team indefinitely for an altercation with Davis today at practice. Something to the effect of Mike: "Grow some balls Marco" Marco: "You grow some yourself coach"

[UNC41]

Yeah you guys have issues ... and blow.

[skatcat]

Mike D. should've been fired long ago.

[SmoothD41]

i fucking quit

GOD DAMNIT

[jumpstr24]

CNN has reported that sources within IU have said that Davis has resigned but will stay on till the end of the year..i have no link sorry...we are in trouble...i hope killingsworth gets suspended and hope davis resigns asap....this has turned into an embarrasing castrophe... the sooner its over the better... and Davis dont blame fans for all of this our team just lost to PSU and have fallen to 0-5 on the road...we are a joke....

[SmoothD41]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/seth_davis/02/15/indiana.davis/index.html

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeee

[rick8285]

I work at IUSTV and we had all this information last night around 1am, but didn't report it cuz we weren't concrete on our sources. Apparently he negotiated the terms of his resignation last week while he was "sick." We've got confirmation that he did not miss the Iowa game because of illness, it was most likely to keep him "safe" from the IU fans.

[adamreichle22]

Thank God! Now we can finally have a real coach again. I don't know whether it will be Alford (although it probably won't) or someone else, but I'm happy this is over.

[jumpstr24]

too bad we are losing Vaden and DJ...i watched the press conference on the internet and they pretty much made it known that they will be gone after the season

[adamreichle22]

too bad we are losing Vaden and DJ...i watched the press conference on the internet and they pretty much made it known that they will be gone after the season

Plus we lose Killingsworth, Monroe, Strickland, and Kline to graduation. And it seems as though Ratliff also may be thinking about leaving too. We will be awful next year, but if we can get a good coach who can attract more good recruits from Indiana (alford) then this will be good in the long run.

[SmoothD41]

Plus we lose Killingsworth, Monroe, Strickland, and Kline to graduation. And it seems as though Ratliff also may be thinking about leaving too. We will be awful next year, but if we can get a good coach who can attract more good recruits from Indiana (alford) then this will be good in the long run.

i don't think Ratliff is going anywhere. He and Davis haven't been getting along all year, to the point where he was going to transfer if Davis STAYED, so I think he'll be here next year. And I think it's too early to say if Vaden and DJ will leave. Sure they say they're leaving right now, but I'm sure that alot of it will depend on who we bring in. Plus if DJ goes, he's going to have to sit out another whole year, I don't think he would wanna do that.

Joey Shaw is going to be a stud, by the way. Even if DJ and Vaden leave next year, we're not going to be terrible by any means. We won't be great, but certainly not bad.

Calloway
Ratliff
Wilmont
Dinc
Allen

-Our front court will be weak for sure, Allen HAS to quit being such a pussy and play some defense. I don't know a whole lot about Cem Dinc, but at 6 "10 I think he has to start next year. As usual, we're going to be relying on our outside shooting.

[SmoothD41]

big win today. I think it's ours to lose right now (a tournament trip, that is). I think right now we are in, but if we lose both our road games this week and get knocked out 1st round of the tournament, we will be right back outside looking in for the 3rd straight year. Seth Davis said that he thinks IU is in after today's win.

I absolutely LOVED how we were attacking the basket at the start of the game. 17 points in the first five minutes?? Where in the hell has that been all year??? But I guess if there was ever a time to start playing good, now is it. We definitely need to work on our defense though. Strickland needs to keep stepping up too.

Be great if we could take both Purdue and Mich. on the road this week, but we definitely need one. Win one on the road, and then a game in the tournament and we'll be looking at a 7 I would imagine. We've beaten 4 ranked teams, and 6 teams in the RPI Top 50.

[SmoothD41]

oh, one more thing. We have the same conference record as Mich. State right now, and they just have one fewer loss overall. They have played 3 extra games though against shitty, shitty teams at the beginning of the year. If we added 3 extra gimmies to our schedule like most other teams do, we would be a shoe in at this point at 18-10. You don't see Mich. State fighting to get in the tournament because of these extra 3 gimmies. That kinda pisses me off, but oh well.

[jumpstr24]

feels good to not have to bitch about the team...

[clayj41]

Best game they've played since the UK game.

[dmb1spe]

This thread has been pretty quiet lately.

[SmoothD41]

This thread has been pretty quiet lately.

probably because we have been shitting the bed for the past month and everybody has been too pissed off to even talk about it. Now that we're showing signs of early season form, I decided to top it.

[rick8285]

Finish the season on a positive note!

[seekupig]

This thread has been pretty quiet lately.

so has the Kentucky thread. ;)

[clayj41]

so has the Kentucky thread. ;)

:lol :lol :lol

[dacat]

I still think IU doesn't make the tourney. They are 0-6 on the road in the big 10, have no decent road wins out of conference, and could easily lose both games on the road this week. IU might beat Purdue b/c Purdue sucks, but IU would still probably need a win in the big 11 tournament

[jumpstr24]

Is Charlotte not considered a good win road win??

[SmoothD41]

definitely liking IU's chances right now. If only the whole tournament was played at Assembly :)

[clayj41]

definitely liking IU's chances right now. If only the whole tournament was played at Assembly :)

:thumbsup :lol

[dmb1spe]

No way IU goes to the tourney. Them and UK might as well order some pizzas and hang out together and watch the first couple of rounds together.

[dacat]

No, Charlotte is not enough close to a good road win. Although IU killed UK earlier, UK is in better shape to get in the tourney, b/c they have a good road record and have a good chance to get another win this week. IU is close to 50/50, just don't know if they can win 2 more games

[clayj41]

They could very well win at Purdue, but I doubt they can do so at Michigan. Assume they get one win in the Big Ten tourney and that would put them at 17-12. Very iffy in my opinion.

[SmoothD41]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

Joe Lunardi has IU and UK both in right now. IU as a 10, UK as an 11.

I think IU is in with 17 wins, DEFINITELY with 18. I think Kentucky needs to beat either LSU or Florida to get in. If they lose both of those, they are done.

For the record, this guy picked all 64 teams correctly last year. Also, Seth Davis yesterday said "IU is probably in" after beating Michigan State. My guess is that both teams will end up making it.

http://www.kenpom.com/rpi.php (current RPI index)

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/teamsched?teamId=96 (Kentucky's schedule)

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/teamsched?teamId=84 (Indiana's schedule)

[clayj41]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

Joe Lunardi has IU and UK both in right now. IU as a 10, UK as an 11.

I think IU is in with 17 wins, DEFINITELY with 18. I think Kentucky needs to beat either LSU or Florida to get in. If they lose both of those, they are done.

For the record, this guy picked all 64 teams correctly last year. Also, Seth Davis yesterday said "IU is probably in" after beating Michigan State. My guess is that both teams will end up making it.

http://www.kenpom.com/rpi.php (current RPI index)

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/teamsched?teamId=96 (Kentucky's schedule)

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/teamsched?teamId=84 (Indiana's schedule)

I saw that earlier today. I agree that as of now, they're both in. That could change though.

[UNC41]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

Joe Lunardi has IU and UK both in right now. IU as a 10, UK as an 11.

I think IU is in with 17 wins, DEFINITELY with 18. I think Kentucky needs to beat either LSU or Florida to get in. If they lose both of those, they are done.

For the record, this guy picked all 64 teams correctly last year. Also, Seth Davis yesterday said "IU is probably in" after beating Michigan State. My guess is that both teams will end up making it.

http://www.kenpom.com/rpi.php (current RPI index)

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/teamsched?teamId=96 (Kentucky's schedule)

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/teamsched?teamId=84 (Indiana's schedule)

That's interesting because on ESPN News earlier today that Kentucky was out. Hmm...

[jumpstr24]

big win!! finally we get that road victory off our back and are on a three game win streak, hopefully we can keep this up and get into the tourney!

[clayj41]

It'll be tough to win at Michigan, but we'll see.

[SmoothD41]

god, do they HAVE to make every game so interesting?? Damn

IU hasn't won a single blowout game all year. It seems like all of their wins aren't decided until the last 2 minutes. I love this team, but they're going to give me a heart attack :)

Anyways, 16-10 is not that bad of a record. 8-7 in conference, right now a 6 seed for big 10 tourney. Win Saturday and I think we're in regardless of how the big 10 tourney goes.

[seekupig]

IU hasn't won a single blowout game all year.

Indiana 79 - Kentucky 53

(@ Kentucky)

[SmoothD41]

Indiana 79 - Kentucky 53

(@ Kentucky)

it was at the RCA Dome, which is more of a home game for IU really.

[seekupig]

it was at the RCA Dome, which is more of a home game for IU really.

reguardless, it was still a blowout against a (somewhat) decent team.

[dacat]

I think IU is in now, you guys have too many quality wins and 8-8 should be good enough. Obviously you'll need to win the opening game of the Big 11 tourney to avoid sweating it out