**Official New York Jets Fan Thread**

[hbktonyb]

For Rex's health Sanchez should get rouged 4 or 5 times a game. Dude needs the exercise.

A few more of those and he will have a heart attack on the sideline.

[kingchrisII]

I still want to know why dolphins fans think they will be competing for the division.

[hbktonyb]

Dolphin fans are lunatics if they think they will even sniff 1st or 2nd place...I think it will be Pats/Jets.

Jets won't go over the hump until they win the division and maybe get a home game.

[rickyh24]

I'm guessing that will go unanswered.

[pathetic]

I still want to know why dolphins fans think they will be competing for the division.

Because they found a way to win the division against an 11-5 bradyless pats and a man-gina run jets..

i'd put a bet that they dont place better than 3rd in the division in the next 5 years. buffalo will most likely draft a QB (clausen im betting) and they'll be better than MIA. find a way to shut down the wildcat or get an early lead against MIA and they are done

[hbktonyb]

Miami is terrible.

[kingchrisII]

At least pats and jets fans can agree on something. Lolololol

[rickyh24]

:lol I was just thinking the same thing.

[pathetic]

:lol

[CrashDMB237]

But teh Phinzzz just got Myke Nolin!!!!

[hbktonyb]

But teh Henneeeez!!!!!!!

[HoldemHart]

Not sure what the Dolphins prospects are from here on out but I can promise you they'll give the Jets all they can handle every year. They always seem to play each other tough.

[kingchrisII]

Not sure what the Dolphins prospects are from here on out but I can promise you they'll give the Jets all they can handle every year. They always seem to play each other tough.

You can promise that? Can you see the future?

[Kevaroo]

I still want to know why dolphins fans think they will be competing for the division.

Well look what the Jets did, obviously anything can change within a year. The Dolphins lost 5 games by 4 or fewer points blew 4 fourth quarter leads and 4 key starters were out the majority of the season, despite that, beat the AFC East champions and beat the Jets twice. The Dolphins will be better next year then they were this year the Pats will be worse and I don't see the Jets getting that much better. I understand The Jets and their fans are very excited about beating a not so good Bengals team who folded the last 5 weeks of the season and getting extremely lucky with a clutch field goal kicker missing as many field goals in one game as he did all season. All this after making the playoffs by default. Just don't forget if the Colts played their real team that entire game in week 15 you are no better than the Dolphins especially when they beat you twice. I understand I am about to get flamed in here and if you have valid statistical points to back up your statements I can concede, I also understand I am posting in a Jets thread especially for rooting for you in the playoffs but you asked a question and I feel like I gave a fair response. (Note this message was not proofread or spell checked)

[Kevaroo]

Because they found a way to win the division against an 11-5 bradyless pats and a man-gina run jets..

i'd put a bet that they dont place better than 3rd in the division in the next 5 years. buffalo will most likely draft a QB (clausen im betting) and they'll be better than MIA. find a way to shut down the wildcat or get an early lead against MIA and they are done

I'm willing to take this bet we can set up a paypal account on it. I'm good for $500.00

[hbktonyb]

I'm willing to take this bet we can set up a paypal account on it. I'm good for $500.00

I'd even take that bet...in 3 years the Pats will be 3rd and the phins will be 2nd...

One thing is for sure, the Jets will be 1st and the Bills will be last. blolololol

[Kevaroo]

But teh Henneeeez!!!!!!!

Chad Henne (still not good) with no O-Line > Mark Sanchez with solid O-Line

Henne better than Sanchez in every category.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=12482

http://espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=11291

[CrashDMB237]

Chad Henne (still not good) with no O-Line > Mark Sanchez with solid O-Line

Henne better than Sanchez in every category.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=12482

http://espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=11291

Good thing for the Jets that we have the #1 defense and running game. You can have the "better" QB, we'll take the better all around team.

[rickyh24]

I'd even take that bet...in 3 years the Pats will be 3rd and the phins will be 2nd...


:lol You're crazy if you don't think the Pats will find a way to get better in the next 2 years.

[hbktonyb]

One can dream...

[CrashDMB237]

:lol You're crazy if you don't think the Pats will find a way to get better in the next 2 years.

They haven't in the past two...

[CrashDMB237]

TJ was a no-show yesterday when the team headed back to Florham Park to clean out their lockers. Washington expects to be 100% by season's start. Shonn Green led the NFL in rushing yards and YPC this postseason. Bye Bye Thomas.

[rickyh24]

They haven't in the past two...

:lol No shit. Maybe they thought they didn't need to. With Brady going down a full year and them still winning 11 games. Why not take your chances with what you got the following year? Dealing Seymour was stupid but also a clear indicator that they are thinking about the future. I think its probably clear to them they need to get better now.

[kingchrisII]

The pats will NOT be worse than the dolphins. The dolphins fucking suck. No one thinks Henne is good, and he is still overrated.

[hbktonyb]

Pats will never be bad as long as they have Brady and Bill...They will always compete.

[kingchrisII]

Pats will never be bad as long as they have Brady and Bill...They will always compete.

Bills going senile.

Edit: even with him going senile they will be better than the dolphins.

[Kevaroo]

The pats will NOT be worse than the dolphins. The dolphins fucking suck. No one thinks Henne is good, and he is still overrated.

So wow the Dolphins beat you twice, you guys must be worse then fucking terrible. What are Jets fans doing for the Super Bowl????

It is finally nice to meet a Jets fan who hates the Dolphins and their fans as much I do to the Jets.

:lol You're crazy if you don't think the Pats will find a way to get better in the next 2 years.

People probably said this about the Cowboys in the early nineties.

[CrashDMB237]

So wow the Dolphins beat you twice, you guys must be worse then fucking terrible. What are Jets fans doing for the Super Bowl???

What did Dolphins fans do for the first 3 rounds of the playoffs while the Jets were still playing? Kinda negates those two wins you had over us. And lets get real, you needed 2 special teams prayers to beat us the second time. You didn't exactly murder us the first time either. Your team isn't good, in fact, you got worse.

[Kevaroo]

What did Dolphins fans do for the first 3 rounds of the playoffs while the Jets were still playing? Kinda negates those two wins you had over us. And lets get real, if the Colts didn't let us literally win the game in the reg. season we would have been hanging with you the first three weeks of the postseason.

Fixed

Without a ring, a superbowl appearence or a credible win over a team in the playoffs this all means nothing. You are no better then anyone else in the league other than maybe the Bucs.

[CrashDMB237]

Fixed

Without a ring, a superbowl appearence or a credible win over a team in the playoffs this all means nothing. You are no better then anyone else in the league other than maybe the Bucs.

So everyone else except the Buccs have the best defense and rushing attack in the league too? Get over it, if we didn't have a 22 year old rookie at QB we would have won a whole lot more games. We lost two simply because he's a rookie (Bills, Falcons). We lost the 2nd Dolphins game because of two prayers. Why don't you look at that rather than the Colts shit that is just tired and boring already. If we win those three games, we're the division champs. And those aren't big "ifs" considering its absolute truth.

[hbktonyb]

I'll make you a deal Dolphin fans...you can beat us twice every year for the next 50 years if it means the playoffs for us every year.

[Kevaroo]

So everyone else except the Buccs have the best defense and rushing attack in the league too? Get over it, if we didn't have a 22 year old rookie at QB we would have won a whole lot more games. We lost two simply because he's a rookie (Bills, Falcons). We lost the 2nd Dolphins game because of two prayers. Why don't you look at that rather than the Colts shit that is just tired and boring already. If we win those three games, we're the division champs. And those aren't big "ifs" considering its absolute truth.

Ifs Ifs Ifs are you serious, and is the bolded not more of an absolute truth? You had Farve last year and look where that got you! You guys are so caught up in a less then impressive playoff run thinking you guys are going to be the next dynasty. I understand that you are a true fan of the Jets as of I of the Dolphins, hell I even rooted for you guys for some of the playoffs, but for you to talk so much shit about the Phins a team you aren't much better than (if at all) is ridiculous. Anything can happen in the East division especially with the Pats on a downswing.

[kingchrisII]

So wow the Dolphins beat you twice, you guys must be worse then fucking terrible. What are Jets fans doing for the Super Bowl????

It is finally nice to meet a Jets fan who hates the Dolphins and their fans as much I do to the Jets.

Rooting for the saints, whom we would have beat if sanchez didn't single handedly give them 14 points. And I don't hate the dolphins, I pity them. They are so pathetic, have such Shitty qb's that they let rb's take snaps about 15 times a game.

[kingchrisII]

Ifs Ifs Ifs are you serious, and is the bolded not more of an absolute truth? You had Farve last year and look where that got you! You guys are so caught up in a less then impressive playoff run thinking you guys are going to be the next dynasty. I understand that you are a true fan of the Jets as of I of the Dolphins, hell I even rooted for you guys for some of the playoffs, but for you to talk so much shit about the Phins a team you aren't much better than (if at all) is ridiculous. Anything can happen in the East division especially with the Pats on a downswing.

I believe we were 8-3 with a healthy Favre. You threw out an if too, you said IF the colts didn't lay down for us, we wouldn't be in the playoffs. Just saying.

[Kevaroo]

Rooting for the saints, whom we would have beat if sanchez didn't single handedly give them 14 points. And I don't hate the dolphins, I pity them. They are so pathetic, have such Shitty qb's that they let rb's take snaps about 15 times a game.

Didn't the Jets run a wildcat? You should certainly pity yourself if you are in for pitying teams with shitty QBs. Also pity your morbidly obese slob of a coach.

[rickyh24]

Rex is not fat.....he's just really healthy.

[thebestauntie]

Didn't the Jets run a wildcat? You should certainly pity yourself if you are in for pitying teams with shitty QBs. Also pity your morbidly obese slob of a coach.
So does this mean we finally have a mod that regularly posts in the Tailgate section? :thumbsup

edit: I realize this has nothing to do with what I quoted. :lol

[kingchrisII]

Didn't the Jets run a wildcat? You should certainly pity yourself if you are in for pitying teams with shitty QBs. Also pity your morbidly obese slob of a coach.

Not 15 times a game.

[Kevaroo]

Not 15 times a game.

Probably should have tried it a bit more considering you had the second worst passing offense in the league. :lol

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=TEAM_PASSING&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2009&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

and 20th in overall offense

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2009&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

[kingchrisII]

Probably should have tried it a bit more considering you had the second worst passing offense in the league. :lol

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=TEAM_PASSING&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2009&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

and 20th in overall offense

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2009&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

And first in rushing?

[CrashDMB237]

Didn't the Jets run a wildcat? You should certainly pity yourself if you are in for pitying teams with shitty QBs. Also pity your morbidly obese slob of a coach.

Because clearly, Rex's weight and appearance hinders his coaching abilities :lol

Typical Dolphins fan. Have fun at Cheeseburger in Paradise Stadium or whatever the fuck it's called.

[hbktonyb]

^Just spit my wine all over the laptop :lol

[RJ2kWJ]

Because clearly, Rex's weight and appearance hinders his coaching abilities :lol

Typical Dolphins fan. Have fun at Cheeseburger in Paradise Stadium or whatever the fuck it's called.

:lol :lol Thats awesome

[Kevaroo]

And first in rushing?

which if equaled out to 20th overall offense you guys aren't as good as you think you are.

Because clearly, Rex's weight and appearance hinders his coaching abilities :lol

Typical Dolphins fan. Have fun at Cheeseburger in Paradise Stadium or whatever the fuck it's called.
Who said anything about his coaching abilities?????
And have fun at your stadium...... oh wait nevermind. This is however something we can agree on, the whoreing out of Landshark Stadium is fucking pathetic.

[rickyh24]

Jets Sucks. Dolphins Suck. Continue.

[Kevaroo]

Jets Sucks. Dolphins Suck. Continue. Patriots Suck and the bills don't even get capitalized they suck so bad.

Fixed. now we can continue

[pearljammer]

FYI, Sanchez was in Birmingham yesterday seeing Dr. Andrews. Not sure if this news has reached NY yet or not.

[hbktonyb]

Yup, on all the websites...always scares me when an athlete visits andrews.

[pearljammer]

Yup, on all the websites...always scares me when an athlete visits andrews.

He's the best, though. Look what he did for Favre!

[hbktonyb]

He really is the best. Every athlete goes to him.

[CrashDMB237]

Just remember, Sanchez played his most efficient games and made some of his best plays on the run... all AFTER this injury. He'd be ready by training camp and would only miss OTAs. If it wasn't Dr. Andrews, it wouldn't be a big deal. Either way he's going to end up fine.

[FunkyTeaParty]

Stay classy Indy......

http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/01/jets_fan_beaten_bloody_in_indy.html

[hbktonyb]

Typical.

[rickyh24]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/100129&sportCat=nfl

[Kevaroo]

Stay classy Indy......

http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/01/jets_fan_beaten_bloody_in_indy.html

Damn that sucks, but something tells me there is more to this story.....

[rickyh24]

Damn that sucks, but something tells me there is more to this story.....

I'm sure there is not some people are just idiots. Someone got beat to death after a Phillie's game too last year. I hate hearing about shit like that. So absurd. What has the world come to when you can't even travel to see your favorite team play because you may get beat or have 1000 snowballs thrown at you?

[FunkyTeaParty]

There may be more to the story, but there is no excuse for blindsiding someone in the head with the the leg of a police barricade.

[rickyh24]

There may be more to the story, but there is no excuse for blindsiding someone in the head with the the leg of a police barricade.

I'm sure it all started with an argument. I have no problem getting heckled when I wear opposing teams gear to a game but there is no excuse for it escalating to that level.

[FunkyTeaParty]

I'm sure it all started with an argument. I have no problem getting heckled when I wear opposing teams gear to a game but there is no excuse for it escalating to that level.

I agree. You go into enemy territory and you have to know what to expect, but there is a difference between ball busting and physical intimidation and/or violence.

[Kevaroo]

There may be more to the story, but there is no excuse for blindsiding someone in the head with the the leg of a police barricade.

I agree completely.

I'm sure it all started with an argument. I have no problem getting heckled when I wear opposing teams gear to a game but there is no excuse for it escalating to that level.

The story says he was hiding after a melee broke out and had a mistaken identity, I am just thinking him and his friends might not have helped the situation, but of course no one not even a Jets or Celtics fan deserves this kind of treatment. ;)

[Kevaroo]

I agree. You go into enemy territory and you have to know what to expect, but there is a difference between ball busting and physical intimidation and/or violence.

As much as you don't want to you sometimes have to sit back and take the lashing knowing you are so severely. out numbered

[rickyh24]

Have you guys seen this??

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=819_1261518489

[rickyh24]

As much as you don't want to you sometimes have to sit back and take the lashing knowing you are so severely. out numbered

Exactly. People in Philly last year kept coming at me. I held up a peace sign and they gave me this weird look. So I said "that is the number of rings the Sox have since 04....1 more than your team"


Then the Sox took 2 out of 3 from them. Beating them by like 11 runs game 2. :lol

[Kevaroo]

Have you guys seen this??

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=819_1261518489

Yea that shit is hilarious, They probably got refunded or taken to some pretty sweet box seats.

[rickyh24]

Yea that shit is hilarious, They probably got refunded or taken to some pretty sweet box seats.

That is whats funny about. Free trip to a luxury box :lol

[Kevaroo]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4875336


Phins!

[kingchrisII]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4875336


Phins!

Rex Ryan is awesome. Thats the kind of attitude I want out of a head coach. Sorry NFL, fine Rex for not being a robot who doesn't show emotions.

[hbktonyb]

Sanchize getting the surgery.

[SoRight24]

It's so ridiculous that the NFL is going to pursue a fine for Rex Ryan.

It wasn't at an NFL sanctioned event, he can do whatever the fuck he wants.

He wasn't breaking the law.

[SoRight24]

Sanchize getting the surgery.

Probably for the best.

[hbktonyb]

Leave Rex alone

[rickyh24]

Sanchize getting the surgery.



Throat surgery from choking on a hot dog?

[kingchrisII]

Any word on the surgery?

[hbktonyb]

As expected, Jets are going to release TJ. Had a great run here, but I don't blame them for not wanting to pay him that kind of money. 30 year old backs are historically not good at all. Hopefully Leon comes back strong and we have a good Greene/LW combo.

[smokew11]

As expected, Jets are going to release TJ. Had a great run here, but I don't blame them for not wanting to pay him that kind of money. 30 year old backs are historically not good at all. Hopefully Leon comes back strong and we have a good Greene/LW combo.

fuck history....TJ is absolutely worth that roster bonus. its like any back who turns 30 automatically becomes shit. sorry but i dont get it, without TJ the jets dont get to the playoffs at all

[kingchrisII]

fuck history....TJ is absolutely worth that roster bonus. its like any back who turns 30 automatically becomes shit. sorry but i dont get it, without TJ the jets dont get to the playoffs at all

And you know this how? Who carried us once we made the playoffs?

Greene.

[CrashDMB237]

Welcome to the best defensive backfield in the NFL Cromartie!!! LOVE IT!!

[hbktonyb]

Love the Cromartie deal...and don't mind them getting rid of TJ at all.

[hbktonyb]

...especially because I just got my authentic Greene white jersey from jersey101.com

[coyne]

My friend wrote to cromartie on twitter:

@A_Cromartie31 Welcome to the Jets, you better not play like a bitch here like you did in the playoffs. It won't fly in NY.

he wrote back:

@Jbro22 lol I gotcha wont happen at all

awesome

[hbktonyb]

^ :lol

[kingchrisII]

Fuck yea!!!!! awesome trade!!! now lets get a dominant pass rusher!

[VanHorneDog]

you guys do realize that Cromartie actually sucks right? i mean, i hope he ends up playing OK, but the guy plays like a bitch. always has always will.

good luck getting him to tackle.

[CrashDMB237]

you guys do realize that Cromartie actually sucks right? i mean, i hope he ends up playing OK, but the guy plays like a bitch. always has always will.

good luck getting him to tackle.

He's been guarding every teams' number 1 option. That changes. And he doesn't have Eric god damn Weddle coming to help him either.

[hbktonyb]

Pass rusher is a must...I will feel very good about next year if we get a good one.

[dmbdreamingtree]

My friend wrote to cromartie on twitter:

@A_Cromartie31 Welcome to the Jets, you better not play like a bitch here like you did in the playoffs. It won't fly in NY.

he wrote back:

@Jbro22 lol I gotcha wont happen at all

awesome

if this is legit, this is bad ass.

[hbktonyb]

Was just reading how Coles wants to come back.

[VanHorneDog]

He's been guarding every teams' number 1 option. That changes. And he doesn't have Eric god damn Weddle coming to help him either.

you are kidding me right?

Quinten Jammer is the #1 CB on the Chargers and always covers the #1 Receiver, Cromartie was the #3 on the Chargers for half the season due to injury and being a pussy fuck.

not sure i get your Eric Weddle comment, but he is awesome. :thumbsup

[kingchrisII]

....didnt get enough for Rhodes. :BANG

[hbktonyb]

Yup, his value really went down. Wow.

He sucked last 2 years though.

[CrashDMB237]

We didn't get good value for Rhodes because he hasn't been anything close to worthy of more than a 4th and 7th rounder. He's blown HUGE plays in all of our terrible losses. Like giving up touchdowns and big gains to multiple tight ends week in and week out. Specifically Tony G in that terrible Falcons loss, but thats far from it.

[kingchrisII]

A 4th and a 7th to me says "this player isn't starting caliber." I dont think that correctly labels Rhodes.

[CrashDMB237]

What's the difference? He played terribly for us, we were better with Eric Smith starting, we were going to lose him for nothing if we cut him or let his deal run out. Might as well got SOMETHING for a guy who gives us nothing.

[kingchrisII]

What's the difference? He played terribly for us, we were better with Eric Smith starting, we were going to lose him for nothing if we cut him or let his deal run out. Might as well got SOMETHING for a guy who gives us nothing.

But I bet we could have gotten more.

edit: If we cut him, wouldnt we be able to sign a player to a similar contract via free agency?

[CrashDMB237]

But I bet we could have gotten more.

I don't think this could have really worked out any better. We don't pay his roster bonus, we get two picks and he gets shipped to another conference just in case he does decide to start putting forth some effort.

[kingchrisII]

Remember when we traded a 1st round draft pick for Doug jolley? If it is possible to get someone to shell out a 1st pick for jolley, than we should get SOMETHING for Rhodes, a former probowler.

[coyne]

if this is legit, this is bad ass.

yeah i made it up :rolleyes

[CrashDMB237]

Addition by subtraction in my eyes. The only problem is we haven't signed Eric Smith back yet, have we?

[kingchrisII]

We need a pass rusher.

[hbktonyb]

If we get a pass rusher, we win the division this year.

[dmbdreamingtree]

yeah i made it up :rolleyes

loud and clear mr. serious.

[CrashDMB237]

What do you guys think of bringing in LT? Personally, I wouldn't mind but I also think he's not going to leave Minny without a contract.

We are in a tough situation. We either go into the season hoping Green and Leon can handle the load or we bring in someone like LT and bench most likely Leon... which would only piss him off. We can't sacrifice the future, but at the same time we are close to being built to win for the present.

Either way, I think we are in good, if not better shape heading into next season.

[dmbdreamingtree]

What do you guys think of bringing in LT? Personally, I wouldn't mind but I also think he's not going to leave Minny without a contract.

We are in a tough situation. We either go into the season hoping Green and Leon can handle the load or we bring in someone like LT and bench most likely Leon... which would only piss him off. We can't sacrifice the future, but at the same time we are close to being built to win for the present.

Either way, I think we are in good, if not better shape heading into next season.

if the jets bring in L.T. leon won't be benched, assuming he remains a jet, i assume. Leon will be the RB with L.T. and Leon splitting time in various roles. It would be a nice 3 back system.

[CrashDMB237]

if the jets bring in L.T. leon won't be benched, assuming he remains a jet, i assume. Leon will be the RB with L.T. and Leon splitting time in various roles. It would be a nice 3 back system.

You can NOT bench Shonn Greene. No way no how.

[dmbdreamingtree]

You can NOT bench Shonn Greene. No way no how.


sorry i meant to type shonn will be the rb with LT and Leon splitting time...

it is obvious the jets are going into the season with green as their primary back. the need to add maybe one or two more backs, depending on whether leon stays. drafting a rb won't be a problem either later in the draft since this draft is heavily stacked.

[hbktonyb]

Would love to bring in LT at the right price, don't think he is signing anywhere other than Minn though

[DerekJTR2]

It's been a while. Here's my status:

Kerry Rhodes was a dick. Glad he's gone.
TJ shouldn't have gone.
Leon BETTER fuckin stay.
Cromartie yessssssssssssss
&
I want LT and I want Darren Sharper.

[VanHorneDog]

It's been a while. Here's my status:

Kerry Rhodes was a dick. Glad he's gone.
TJ shouldn't have gone.
Leon BETTER fuckin stay.
Cromartie yessssssssssssss
&
I want LT and I want Darren Sharper.

i keep telling you guys he is NOT that good, why does anybody think he is that good? i have watched him for 3 years now start as the #2 CB on the Chargers, he is not that good. not to mention he has huge off the field issues.

[hbktonyb]

But he is a perfect compliment to the best corner to ever play the game. He will have a huge year.

[CrashDMB237]

http://www.sportsfanlive.com/sflreports/entry/sportsfanlive_com_exclusive_lineman_s

Draft him. NOW.

[VanHorneDog]

But he is a perfect compliment to the best corner to ever play the game. He will have a huge year.

for the other offense you mean?

all they will do now is throw quick passes out to him, he cant tackle and doesnt even try to!

[hbktonyb]

With the Jet defense, he will try.

[rickyh24]

But he is a perfect compliment to the best corner to ever play the game. He will have a huge year.

:lol:lol:lol Wow.

[hbktonyb]

:lol:lol:lol Wow.

He will go down as being the best ever, drawing comparisons with Deion.

[rickyh24]

^ That is not what you said. You said he is already the best corner to play the game. :lol

[hbktonyb]

I've been known to get crazy sometimes.

[thebestauntie]

I've been known to get crazy sometimes.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[CrashDMB237]

We wined and dined LT tonight, and lord knows Rexy knows how to dine! I heard they brought Sanchez to dinner too. The more and more I think about the, the more I think we are going to end up with LT. I thought he would be wise to sign in Minny but I'm not so sure now. Childress doesn't hold a candle to Rex when it comes to interacting and they don't HAVE a solid answer at QB they can bring to any meetings with LT to start getting to know each other.

Green, LT, Leon... sign me the fuck up.

[hbktonyb]

He would be pretty perfect, as long as they don't give him a ridiculous amount of money.

[CrashDMB237]

He would be pretty perfect, as long as they don't give him a ridiculous amount of money.

Who cares? Uncapped year. We have no other big names to go after and our guys will be taken care of.

[hbktonyb]

They wouldn't give TJ anything, and he is coming off a great regular season. On paper, I'd rather have LT, but the way he looked last year scared me a little.

I still want him though.

[CrashDMB237]

But LT and TJ are two different types of backs. LT is a ridiculous threat on third downs and in the backfield whereas TJ was a good first down guy to get us 4 yards then let us work with short passes.

[hbktonyb]

Very true, LT could work perfect for us, I just hope he accepts.

[smokew11]

why is TJ not worth 5 mil but LT is???????

[DerekJTR2]

why is TJ not worth 5 mil but LT is???????

Shit happens. Maybe they'll regret it but in the end it just didn't work I guess.

I rarely question the guys who get paid millions of dollars to run a professional sports teams. Sometimes they mess up but no one but them is behind closed doors talking it out making decisions. We don't know 10% of what goes on when they make their decisions.

I loved TJ and it's sad to see him go but I think LT will be great for the team and makes me feel a whole lot better that he'll be there to help Shonn Greene turn into a #1 RB. Going that road without someone like TJ or LT to help out would've been scary imo.

[rickyh24]

Green, LT, Leon... sign me the fuck up.

They may move Leon if they sign LT.

[dmbmuskie]

LT and a Lap Band: The NYJ Week in Review

[hbktonyb]

LT babbyyyy!!!!!! Niceeeee signing.

[DerekJTR2]

So excited

[rickyh24]

Did you guys not watch LT all last season or something?

[hbktonyb]

He is a perfect compliment to our backs. He is not going to be an every down back.

[DerekJTR2]

Did you guys not watch LT all last season or something?

Here are my points.

1. Offensive line
2. Still scored a lot of TDs
3. Help bring up Shonn Greene
4. We need the 3rd down short yardage pick ups. He can definitely help on that.

A hall of famer is a hall of famer. Sometimes it just takes a change of scenery. Maybe he's on his way out, we'll have to wait and see. Hopefully not but I think it's a great move.

[rickyh24]

Keeping TJ would have been wiser imo. Especially if they move Leon now.

[rickyh24]

2. Still scored a lot of TDs


I'm pretty sure 80 percent of his td's were scored from the 6 yard line and under. 70 percent of that 80 percent coming from like 3 yds or less out.

[DerekJTR2]

Keeping TJ would have been wiser imo. Especially if they move Leon now.

Obviously they couldn't keep him. Either way, if they did fuck up, this is the best way to remedy that.

I hope Leon stays, but it's tough to come back from a broken leg like that. I pray he's back to as good as he was but that's a tough tough injury.

[dmbmuskie]

LT would only be a perfect compliment to the NFLN crew at this point.

[hbktonyb]

TJ wants to be an every down back, where as LT is fine being part of a 3 headed monster.

[rickyh24]

LT would only be a perfect compliment to the NFLN crew at this point.

:lol:lol

[DerekJTR2]

TJ wants to be an every down back, where as LT is fine being part of a 3 headed monster.

I was wary of TJ's future after the debacle last season. Obviously whatever he wanted couldn't get done with the Jets. Maybe the Jets wanted to avoid all the bullshit again so they could make a move like this while the getting's still good.

[VanHorneDog]

LT would only be a perfect compliment to the NFLN crew at this point.

not really, he would probably cry on air if he got made fun of.

[thebestauntie]

not really, he would probably cry on air when he got made fun of.
Fixed.

[rickyh24]

:lol

[CrashDMB237]

TJ's Yards Per Carry in his last 6 games as a Jet:

ATL 2.7
@IND 4.6 *
CIN 2.9
@Cin 2.3
@SD 2.9
@IND 2.6

*- Against backups in the second half.

As opposed to LT's last 6 games as a Charger (leaving out week 17 against WAS because he only played 2 downs):

vs.KC 3.0
@CLE 3.2
@DAL 2.4
vs.CIN 3.7
@TEN 3.7
vs.NYJ 2.0

Just sayin...

[CrashDMB237]

And that above post is leaving out reception yards, to which LT has had the advantage. I think Schotty knows how to use him. LT's best years came when Brian Schottenheimer was involved with the SD offense. I think we'll see a lot more screens and passes in the flat than carries from LT and that's fine with me. I think having LT in the game opens up the deep ball for Mark. When Leon went down we had 0 threat of a reception in the backfield. Greene had stone hands and TJ didn't have the quickness to catch, turn and make a move upfield.

[hbktonyb]

No matter how you look at it, it is a great move. We didn't have a passing threat out of the backfield last year. Now LT adds that to our offense. I can see some good play calling, with 2 RB's on the field.

[dmbmuskie]

http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/rb

Tomlinson was the worst pass catching RB in football last season among players with 25 passes thrown their way.

[CrashDMB237]

http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/rb

Tomlinson was the worst pass catching RB in football last season among players with 25 passes thrown their way.

You're a fool if you think he isn't a backfield pass-catching threat. And sorry, I have a hard time taking that site seriously seeing where they ranked Thomas Jones in terms of rushing.

[CrashDMB237]

Skip Bayless just called Greene soft and said he doesn't run hard :lol

[hbktonyb]

http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/rb

Tomlinson was the worst pass catching RB in football last season among players with 25 passes thrown their way.

:rolleyes

[hbktonyb]

Skip Bayless just called Greene soft and said he doesn't run hard :lol

Dumbest thing ever...the guy had limited playing time in 1 year, and the times he did play, he was very good.

[CrashDMB237]

Dumbest thing ever...the guy had limited playing time in 1 year, and the times he did play, he was very good.

I can see inconsistent maybe, and that's still not Shonn's fault... but SOFT? :lol

[HoldemHart]

First regular season game in the new stadium goes to the G-Men..... Giants Stadium 2.0 Baby!!!

[CrashDMB237]

First regular season game in the new stadium goes to the G-Men..... Giants Stadium 2.0 Baby!!!

You keep clinging to that straw buddy :lol

Giants fans don't realize that only Giants fans care.

[HoldemHart]

You keep clinging to that straw buddy :lol

Giants fans don't realize that only Giants fans care.

It was a joke, relax...

Looks like Woody Johnson isn't pleased, not because they lost but because there was no team representative there.

[CrashDMB237]

So whats the date of the first Giants home game then? I just pray to God the Jets don't play their first game the weekend of Sept 11th... I'm going to be away at my dad's damn wedding. What a true Jet fan he is... plan a wedding on a potential stadium-opening weekend :lol

[HoldemHart]

So whats the date of the first Giants home game then? I just pray to God the Jets don't play their first game the weekend of Sept 11th... I'm going to be away at my dad's damn wedding. What a true Jet fan he is... plan a wedding on a potential stadium-opening weekend :lol

Yikes....I think your Dad owes you an apology.

[CrashDMB237]

All of the guys that we have season tickets with already told him if the Jets play their first home game on the 12th, we're catching the red eye out of there after the wedding on the 11th. And we aren't joking :lol

[HoldemHart]

All of the guys that we have season tickets with already told him if the Jets play their first home game on the 12th, we're catching the red eye out of there after the wedding on the 11th. And we aren't joking :lol

You gotta do what you gotta do :lol Where's the wedding?

[CrashDMB237]

Savannah god damn Georgia. To a woman I don't like. Isn't that always how it goes though?

[HoldemHart]

Savannah god damn Georgia. To a woman I don't like. Isn't that always how it goes though?

Holy shit....that sounds like a plot to a movie.

[Timebomb07]

Thank you for stealing LT from the Vikings :thumbsup
didn't need more problems for my Packers

[CrashDMB237]

Thank you for stealing LT from the Vikings :thumbsup
didn't need more problems for my Packers

Well you have one... no second running back.

[Timebomb07]

Well you have one... no second running back.

Im from Stamford too man, who you be?

[CrashDMB237]

Im from Stamford too man, who you be?

Just PMed you.

[CrashDMB237]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/15/jets-giants-resolve-turf-battle-over-their-new-turf/

Jets, Giants resolve turf battle over their new turf
Posted by Mike Florio on March 15, 2010 4:54 PM ET
To cap a day that began with news of a coin-flip that reportedly left Jets owner Woody Johnson outraged, the NFL has resolved the problem of two teams sharing a new stadium, with each wanting to be the first to play a regular-season game there.

According to various members of the New York media, the Giants will host a game on a Sunday, and the Jets will host a Monday night game that same weekend.

It doesn't mean that the games will be played in Week One. There's a chance that the new venue will be dark during kickoff weekend, with the Giants and the Jets each playing on the road. Then, the opening of the stadium would be one of the highlights of Week Two, with the Jets hosting the Monday nigh game that concludes the second slate of games.

The Jets also will open the preseason at the new stadium.

Meanwhile, look for the prime-time games to be played in Week One and the Thanksgiving games to be announced next week, in conjunction with the league meetings in Orlando.

Go head... open the stadium Giants... we'll take the first Monday nighter :lol

[HoldemHart]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/15/jets-giants-resolve-turf-battle-over-their-new-turf/



Go head... open the stadium Giants... we'll take the first Monday nighter :lol

You honestly don't think the Giants will be on Sunday night football. You know, the premier game of the week?

No shame in taking the second best timeslot of the week.

[CrashDMB237]

Unless it's Giants/Cowboys it SHOULDN'T be a Sunday night game.

[hbktonyb]

Wow, that Monday night is going to be insane...Can't see it not being against the Pats.

[thehammer316]

I hope when we Christen the new stadium, we wax the Cowboys in it!

Question for Jet fans: if you wanted the first game so bad, why did you not pay more money to build the stadium? Why is it still named Giants Stadium? The Giant is not a state mascot, so it could have been something else. I know you guys put up half the money. What's the Frequency, Kenneth??

[CrashDMB237]

I hope when we Christen the new stadium, we wax the Cowboys in it!

Question for Jet fans: if you wanted the first game so bad, why did you not pay more money to build the stadium? Why is it still named Giants Stadium? The Giant is not a state mascot, so it could have been something else. I know you guys put up half the money. What's the Frequency, Kenneth??

1.) I don't think we gave a shit about opening the stadium.
2.) It's not named anything yet.

[thehammer316]

1.) I don't think we gave a shit about opening the stadium.
2.) It's not named anything yet.

1-ok
2-I did not know this, ESPN and NFL Network are refering to it as Giants Stadium. I guess that is what I get for following mainstream media and that little upstart, know-nothing channel!

[hbktonyb]

How long are they going to wait until they name this thing??

[thebestauntie]

How long are they going to wait until they name this thing??
I think they're waiting for the Jets to win a championship, so it's gonna be a while.

[rickyh24]

My favorite team has their own stadium so this is never really an issue for me.

[rickyh24]

I think they're waiting for the Jets to win a championship, so it's gonna be a while.

blolololololo

[crashintonickdm]

IMO, the team who did more last year should get the opening game. the giants were an embarassment last year. first team to start off 5-0 (against ass teams) then miss the playoffs.

Jets deserve a spot to open the stadium.

[crashintonickdm]

i like all the jets moves so far. their defense is gonna be even better next year. watch out, pats.

[CrashDMB237]

In other news, Tannenbaum said WR Braylon Edwards will participate in the offseason program. ... He said the team may still add another running back in the draft. ... Quarterback Mark Sanchez is spending four hours each day in Schottenheimer's office, studying the offense.

:thumbsup

[jimibadfish]

IMO, the team who did more last year should get the opening game. the giants were an embarassment last year. first team to start off 5-0 (against ass teams) then miss the playoffs.

Jets deserve a spot to open the stadium.

This season's Broncos became the second team to start 6-0 and miss the playoffs since 1990, I think.

http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/22/falling-out-of-the-playoffs-the-biggest-collapses/?pagemode=print

But yeah, the Giants were an embarassment.

[CrashDMB237]

And we just resigned Tony Richardson, making the LT signing even better.

[davelk10]

Why is it still named Giants Stadium?

Considering what those PSLs are costing you, I doubt this thing won't have a corporate name all over it before the pre-season starts

[hbktonyb]

Rumor is that not only will we get the Monday night opener, we will get the Thanksgiving night game...

[DerekJTR2]

I hope when we Christen the new stadium, we wax the Cowboys in it!

Question for Jet fans: if you wanted the first game so bad, why did you not pay more money to build the stadium? Why is it still named Giants Stadium? The Giant is not a state mascot, so it could have been something else. I know you guys put up half the money. What's the Frequency, Kenneth??

It's not called Giants stadium. It's called Meadowlands Stadium

[kingchrisII]

So before the schedule comes out we know: Monday Nighter opens new stadium for us, Night time home game on Thanksgiving.

Pretty sweet.

[CrashDMB237]

And it looks like this season's Hard Knocks will be the Jets. I'm iffy on it, but I think it will be awesome to get such good insight on my favorite team. Plus I think the antics of the team will draw a crowd regardless.

[hbktonyb]

and I just found out I'm traveling to Cleveland this year for the Jets/Browns game. Hopefully I survive it, because I'm def. wearing my jersey.

[thebestauntie]

and I just found out I'm traveling to Cleveland this year for the Jets/Browns game. Hopefully I survive it, because I'm def. wearing my jersey.
Hmmm, I can't decide if I want you to make it out alive or not. :shrug :lol

[dmbmuskie]

and I just found out I'm traveling to Cleveland this year for the Jets/Browns game. Hopefully I survive it, because I'm def. wearing my jersey.

Unless you are in the dawg pound you'll be fine. They hate their own team far too much to worry about you.

[jimibadfish]

On a scale of one to ten, ten being the drafting of Ryan Leaf and one being the drafting of Tom Brady...the Jets pick up of LT after not resigning TJ is an eleven. Unfuckinbelievable.

[CrashDMB237]

On a scale of one to ten, ten being the drafting of Ryan Leaf and one being the drafting of Tom Brady...the Jets pick up of LT after not resigning TJ is an eleven. Unfuckinbelievable.

:lol:lol:lol:lol

If you say so. People really need to read up on things before they post.

Right off the bat, we would have had to pay TJ 6 mil this year... alone... NOT worth it. Near the end of the season, in fact the last 7 games, TJ had worse numbers than LT. Greene is our RB of the future, TJ would not stay here to be a backup and you don't pay backups $6 mil. LT is a completely different type of RB that the Jets lacked. Greene and TJ are the same player. LT can run behind our O-line, he can catch in the backfield and he can throw the ball too, granted we won't use that a lot.

Was it the BEST move talent wise? No. But future and money taken into consideration, it sure wasn't a bad move.

[hbktonyb]

Hmmm, I can't decide if I want you to make it out alive or not. :shrug :lol

:lol Damn you.

[hbktonyb]

On a scale of one to ten, ten being the drafting of Ryan Leaf and one being the drafting of Tom Brady...the Jets pick up of LT after not resigning TJ is an eleven. Unfuckinbelievable.

WINNER! (for most absurd tailgate post of the year)

[jimibadfish]

:lol:lol:lol:lol

If you say so. People really need to read up on things before they post.

Right off the bat, we would have had to pay TJ 6 mil this year... alone... NOT worth it. Near the end of the season, in fact the last 7 games, TJ had worse numbers than LT. Greene is our RB of the future, TJ would not stay here to be a backup and you don't pay backups $6 mil. LT is a completely different type of RB that the Jets lacked. Greene and TJ are the same player. LT can run behind our O-line, he can catch in the backfield and he can throw the ball too, granted we won't use that a lot.

Was it the BEST move talent wise? No. But future and money taken into consideration, it sure wasn't a bad move.

TJ is better than LT at this point. And LT is making about the same. In no way shape or form was LT as good as TJ last year. Get real. Maybe you need to look into it. TJ was the third leading rusher in the NFL. 5.8 mil isn't that much to spend, really. And LT will get close to that. He's exponentially better as a back up than LT at this point. LT didn't break 100 yds in a game all year and didn't go over 4 ypc in a single game after week one. Like I said, maybe you need to look into it instead of getting overly defensive when someone questions your favorite team making a questionable move.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2553

News: According to the New York Daily News, Tomlinson caused the fewest missed tackles and produced the lowest number of yards after contact among starting running backs last season.
Spin: The Jets open themselves up to criticism with the Tomlinson signing, given that they could have had Thomas Jones at a similar cost. Tomlinson's numbers should improve next year given the talent on New York's offensive line, but he's clearly the No. 2 behind Shonn Greene, and Tomlinson won't be optimistically ranked on our cheat sheets unless Greene winds up getting hurt.

[jimibadfish]

WINNER! (for most absurd tailgate post of the year)

You Jets fans are loyal. I'll give you that. Ignorant and overly defensive? Yes. But certainly there's something to be said for loyalty.

[jimibadfish]

Near the end of the season, in fact the last 7 games, TJ had worse numbers than LT.

This is the most factually incorrect post maybe in the history of the internet.

LT had one game of the last seven over 70 yards. TJ had one game of the last seven under 70 yards.

[TR3Esmoker]

This is the most factually incorrect post maybe in the history of the internet.

LT had one game of the last seven over 70 yards. TJ had one game of the last seven under 70 yards.

Really I don't think it matters Greene will be getting most of the carries. I don't know the specifics of LT's deal but I'm sure it is lower than what TJ was going to make. TJ had the second most rushing yards since 2005 and LT has the most. Who would you want #1 or #2? Good move by the Jets.

[jimibadfish]

Really I don't think it matters Greene will be getting most of the carries. I don't know the specifics of LT's deal but I'm sure it is lower than what TJ was going to make. TJ had the second most rushing yards since 2005 and LT has the most. Who would you want #1 or #2? Good move by the Jets.

The Jets will wind up saving a few hundred thousand bucks. And anyone who really knows shit about football knows that TJ is a much better rusher than LT at this point. This is not three years ago. THis is today. TJ was 3rd in the league in rushing last year. LT was 29th. 3.3 ypc for LT...4.2 for TJ.

This is NOT a logical move by the Jets. Not a good move from an outside perspective.

[thebestauntie]

:lol Damn you.
Hee hee hee. :D:hug

[Timebomb07]

TJ is better than LT at this point. And LT is making about the same. In no way shape or form was LT as good as TJ last year. Get real. Maybe you need to look into it. TJ was the third leading rusher in the NFL. 5.8 mil isn't that much to spend, really. And LT will get close to that. He's exponentially better as a back up than LT at this point. LT didn't break 100 yds in a game all year and didn't go over 4 ypc in a single game after week one. Like I said, maybe you need to look into it instead of getting overly defensive when someone questions your favorite team making a questionable move.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2553

If I were a Jet fan, I would definitely rather have LT. he is a playmaker, obviously he's not as good as he used to be, but hes gonna teach Green soooooo much, Green will gain so much from him. not to mention, Sanchez will be real comfortable having a experienced running back in the backfield

[hbktonyb]

They owed TJ 2.5, plus a 3 million signing bonus for one year. They got LT for 2 years, 5 M. Better deal for the Jets, hands down.

[TR3Esmoker]

The Jets will wind up saving a few hundred thousand bucks. And anyone who really knows shit about football knows that TJ is a much better rusher than LT at this point. This is not three years ago. THis is today. TJ was 3rd in the league in rushing last year. LT was 29th. 3.3 ypc for LT...4.2 for TJ.

This is NOT a logical move by the Jets. Not a good move from an outside perspective.

You saying I dont know shit about football?
i do know that SD is a passing team with Rivers and the Jets are a rushing team with their beast of an O-line. LT has been hurt HOPEFULLY he stays healthy these next two seasons and we will see how great TJ does in KC. Besides GREENE is the starter and LT will be the back up.

[jimibadfish]

They owed TJ 2.5, plus a 3 million signing bonus for one year. They got LT for 2 years, 5 M. Better deal for the Jets, hands down.

THey are going to save a few hundred thousand. Not worth it.

[TR3Esmoker]

THey are going to save a few hundred thousand. Not worth it.


Well a few hundred thousand they saved can let them sign another player. Yeah its an uncapped year but the final 8 teams have special rules about signing FA. Besides LT will not be expected to rush for 1000 yards. They don't need him to win games, he will be there teaching the young RB how to be affective in the NFL and to make space.

If you want to talk about a bad move on the Jets part then you should talk about how they didn't re-sign Feely and replaced him with Folk. They finally had a clutch kicker who could make field goals, punt and could actually tackle unlike that piece of shit they just traded to Arizona.

[CrashDMB237]

This is the most factually incorrect post maybe in the history of the internet.

LT had one game of the last seven over 70 yards. TJ had one game of the last seven under 70 yards.

Most factually incorrect post? Look at yards per carry, which tells WAY more of a story than total yards does. I do believe yards per carry is a "stat" and LT's was higher than TJ's the last 7 weeks of the season.

So if you want to talk about factually incorrect...

[jimibadfish]

Most factually incorrect post? Look at yards per carry, which tells WAY more of a story than total yards does. I do believe yards per carry is a "stat" and LT's was higher than TJ's the last 7 weeks of the season.

So if you want to talk about factually incorrect...

You are absolutely wrong. LT did not have more ypc the last 7 games of the season. Not even close.

Do you try to go off memory or do you actually look at the stats and still fuck this up?

[CrashDMB237]

TJ's Yards Per Carry in his last 6 games as a Jet:

ATL 2.7
@IND 4.6 *
CIN 2.9
@Cin 2.3
@SD 2.9
@IND 2.6

*- Against backups in the second half.

As opposed to LT's last 6 games as a Charger (leaving out week 17 against WAS because he only played 2 downs):

vs.KC 3.0
@CLE 3.2
@DAL 2.4
vs.CIN 3.7
@TEN 3.7
vs.NYJ 2.0

Just sayin...

Yes, as a matter of fact I did look them up. So with the exception of two games. Even if you don't want to say LT's stats are "better" they are pretty much even.

[jimibadfish]

Yes, as a matter of fact I did look them up. So with the exception of two games. Even if you don't want to say LT's stats are "better" they are pretty much even.

Those stats are bullshit. You can't compare three playoff games to one and leave out a game for the LT to make some case...really. You are incorrect.

Try these:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2138

http://espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2553

and for verification, try these as well:

http://www.nfl.com/players/thomasjones/gamelogs?id=JON755755

http://www.nfl.com/players/ladainiantomlinson/gamelogs?id=TOM683150

[CrashDMB237]

Uhhh.... those are the exact same numbers I posted.

Edit: I noticed you changed your post from "incorrect" to "bullshit". And I still don't see how that's anywhere NEAR bullshit. Games are games. Why would I NOT leave out a game that LT didn't play more than a few series in? You're clinging man.

[hbktonyb]

TJ was a 1 year deal and they owed him 5. LT is a 2 year deal for 5. Savings: 2.5M

[jimibadfish]

Thomas Jones was twice as productive as Ladainian Tomlinson last year. I mean, yeah, if you Jets fans want to spin it and make the best out of a bad move, I guess comparing the worst games for Jones against some of the best games for LT would make me feel better...if I was the type that could convince myself of shit that not reality. But I can't.

[jimibadfish]

TJ was a 1 year deal and they owed him 5. LT is a 2 year deal for 5. Savings: 2.5M

It's not that simple. They will end up saving a few hundred thousand.

[CrashDMB237]

It's not that simple. They will end up saving a few hundred thousand.

I need to know how you figure this.

[jimibadfish]

Uhhh.... those are the exact same numbers I posted.

Edit: I noticed you changed your post from "incorrect" to "bullshit". And I still don't see how that's anywhere NEAR bullshit. Games are games. Why would I NOT leave out a game that LT didn't play more than a few series in? You're clinging man.

No, I'm not clinging. Playoff games are not the same as regular season games. Not the same. Thomas Jones was a FAR SUPERIOR player to LT last year. There's really no way around it. If you think so, like really think so, you don't know a god damn thing about football. Sorry. So, post stats all you want that don't show the real story, but you're just lying to yourself.

[jimibadfish]

I need to know how you figure this.

They could have re-signed Jones for like 3 mil for this upcoming season.

[CrashDMB237]

No, I'm not clinging. Playoff games are not the same as regular season games. Not the same. Thomas Jones was a FAR SUPERIOR player to LT last year. There's really no way around it. If you think so, like really think so, you don't know a god damn thing about football. Sorry. So, post stats all you want that don't show the real story, but you're just lying to yourself.

When did I ever say TJ WASN'T far superior to LT over the course of last season? All I said, and I'll put it in different wording for you, is that near the end of the season LT and TJ were producing the same amount of yards every time they touched the ball.

[jimibadfish]

All I said, and I'll put it in different wording for you, is that near the end of the season LT and TJ were producing the same amount of yards every time they touched the ball.

And how many ways can I say this...no the fuck they weren't. You can't go: look at TJ's numbers in the extra playoff games he played compared to the regular season numbers LT was putting up.

That doesn't work. Sorry. TJ>>>>>LT throughout the entire season.

[CrashDMB237]

And how many ways can I say this...no the fuck they weren't. You can't go: look at TJ's numbers in the extra playoff games he played compared to the regular season numbers LT was putting up.

That doesn't work. Sorry. TJ>>>>>LT throughout the entire season.

:lol

To each his own pal. Stats exist for a reason.

[hbktonyb]

They could have re-signed Jones for like 3 mil for this upcoming season.

They owed him a $2M+ signing bonus if he resigned, which is why he left. Jets didn't want to spend $5+ for 1 year on TJ.

[jimibadfish]

:lol

To each his own pal. Stats exist for a reason.

Why don't you try checking out how rbs throughout the history of the NFL have performed in the post season as compared to the regular season and get back at me?

[jimibadfish]

They owed him a $2M+ signing bonus if he resigned, which is why he left. Jets didn't want to spend $5+ for 1 year on TJ.

That's retarded.

[jimibadfish]

I love how EVERYONE except a few fringe Jets fans think this was a bad move. Analysists, former players, etc.

[CrashDMB237]

I love how EVERYONE except a few fringe Jets fans think this was a bad move. Analysists, former players, etc.

I love even more how you just made up a word :lol

Edit: And there are plenty of ANALYSTS, former players, etc. who have said they like the move.

[jimibadfish]

"My points don't make sense, so I'll correct the other poster's meaningless typo." That's always my favorite.

Remember how great you thought every move the Knicks have ever made was...How'd that work out? Have you ever seen your favorite teams make a move and go, "Hmmm...that might not be the best move." Or is everything great and rosey in your mind until it fucks up?

I forget that I'm talking to a guy that wouldn't have wanted the Knicks to draft Jennings instead of Hill. :lol

[CrashDMB237]

"My points don't make sense, so I'll correct the other poster's meaningless typo." That's always my favorite.

Remember how great you thought every move the Knicks have ever made was...How'd that work out? Have you ever seen your favorite teams make a move and go, "Hmmm...that might not be the best move." Or is everything great and rosey in your mind until it fucks up?

I forget that I'm talking to a guy that wouldn't have wanted the Knicks to draft Jennings instead of Hill. :lol

You just said three things all of which are untrue. Congrats. Well I didn't WANT Jennings, but I never said we should have drafted Hill over Jennings.

[jimibadfish]

I've seen you defend every single thing the Jets and Knicks have done over the past year. And it makes no sense.

You said that you wouldn't want any part of Jennings and that you were basically glad the Knicks didn't draft him. I just kind of put the rest together for myself using logical deduction.

[CrashDMB237]

Why shouldn't I support everything the Knicks and Jets did in the past year? Anything the Jets did last year CLEARLY helped them out, so it seems like something anyone would support. Don't get me wrong, I would much rather have TJ back than LT, but that won't happen, we have LT and I think it's a good move. I don't necessarily think we will be BETTER, but I think we will be different which could make other facets of the game better.

And why would I not support the Knicks getting a billion dollars in cap space in the biggest free agency year in the history of the league? Again, I never said I'd rather have Hill over Jennings. I just said I don't want Jennings. I would have taken Lawson or DeRozan over Jennings, but not Hill.

[TR3Esmoker]

The Jets haven't re-signed Feely and I don't like that. So I'm not happy with all their moves, but I do like the LT signing

[kingchrisII]

I've seen you defend every single thing the Jets and Knicks have done over the past year. And it makes no sense.

You said that you wouldn't want any part of Jennings and that you were basically glad the Knicks didn't draft him. I just kind of put the rest together for myself using logical deduction.

Can somebody tell me who this guys favorite team is?

[CrashDMB237]

Dolphins signed Richie Incognito... another good move for the Jets :lol

[hbktonyb]

The Knicks and Jets both happened to do the right things this year. Knicks have to go all in for next year's free agency, and the Jets must have did something right, they made it to the AFC championship with a rooke QB.

[jimibadfish]

Can somebody tell me who this guys favorite team is?

Saints. And I was critical of them up until this year for not shoring up the secondary....and look what happened when they did. :cool

The Jets got worse for no good reason by letting TJ go. If you guys don't want to acknowledge that, fine. Live in a cloud.

[DerekJTR2]

I love how EVERYONE except a few fringe Jets fans think this was a bad move. Analysists, former players, etc.

I love how you make a giant sweeping statement that isn't even close to being accurate.

The Jets did not trade TJ for LT.

We don't know why they had to let TJ go because we don't work for the Jets handling millions of dollars. They clearly couldn't get it done with Jones and though initially, the decision was unpopular, it seems that most of the Jets are over it and are going to embrace LT who is the best pickup after losing TJ.

The O line is gonna let him have another great season or two and Shonn is gonna turn into a great back.

I'm so fucking excited for September

[kingchrisII]

Saints. And I was critical of them up until this year for not shoring up the secondary....and look what happened when they did. :cool

The Jets got worse for no good reason by letting TJ go. If you guys don't want to acknowledge that, fine. Live in a cloud.

You should be bitching about your own teams losses/potential losses, instead of complaining about what the jets do with a backup running back.

[VanHorneDog]

God i hate the Jets, and now that LT is on the team i hate them even more. honestly, i may in fact no longer endorse LT.

wtf.

[jimibadfish]

I love how you make a giant sweeping statement that isn't even close to being accurate.

The Jets did not trade TJ for LT.

We don't know why they had to let TJ go because we don't work for the Jets handling millions of dollars. They clearly couldn't get it done with Jones and though initially, the decision was unpopular, it seems that most of the Jets are over it and are going to embrace LT who is the best pickup after losing TJ.

The O line is gonna let him have another great season or two and Shonn is gonna turn into a great back.

I'm so fucking excited for September

That's great that you're excited. I'm happy for you. This is an uncapped season and expert analysts are baffled by this move. People who know about the inner workings of the NFL. But whatever.

You should be bitching about your own teams losses/potential losses, instead of complaining about what the jets do with a backup running back.

Oh, ok. I'll be sure to do that. As soon as they do something that doesn't make any sense. So far, they released the perpetually injured and underachieving Charles Grant. Good move imo. Resigned Bush. Good move. Mike Bell will probably be gone. Not a big deal either way with the depth at RB. Darren Sharper was not given the franchise tag. Good move considering his age, the money they would have had to give him, the fact that he just had a micro-fracture surgery on his knee, and they might be able to resign him anyway for cheaper than the 6.5 mil they would have had to give him otherwise. No other team is jumping up to throw cash his way. The secondary was soooo young other than him last year and will no doubt continue to improve. It would be nice to have him back next season, but beyond that, it's iffy for a player his age. Scott Fujita was allowed to walk and sign with the Browns. Not a huge deal as they can get a adequate replacement for their 3rd best backer for cheaper than he signed with Cleveland.

Had they release Vilma and signed Dansby, that would be a comparable move. They didn't. Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis know what they're doing. I have reason to trust them. I know the offense that led them to a SB win will still be greatly intact.

Really, not too much has been done thus far. When they do something I think is crazy, I'll let you know. Until then, keep being a blind fan. :thumbsup

[kingchrisII]

Blind fan? I dont care what we did for our BACKUP running back slot so im a blind fan?

And you are saying that a running back does better in the regular season than playoffs?

[jimibadfish]

I'm saying rushing stats are traditionally better in the regular season than in the playoffs...

And you considering TJ to be a back up to a 2nd year back that really hasn't proven shit is naive. Yes, that's the Jets thinking. THat Greene will become an absolute beast. He showed signs. But TJ is a beast and has been for years. He's a proven player. Either way, using a two back system has been affective for other teams. I guess the Jets are just worried about squeezing their assets or something that making for damn sure they have great runners behind that top notch o-line.

[kingchrisII]

I'm saying rushing stats are traditionally better in the regular season than in the playoffs...

And you considering TJ to be a back up to a 2nd year back that really hasn't proven shit is naive. Yes, that's the Jets thinking. THat Greene will become an absolute beast. He showed signs. But TJ is a beast and has been for years. He's a proven player. Either way, using a two back system has been affective for other teams. I guess the Jets are just worried about squeezing their assets or something that making for damn sure they have great runners behind that top notch o-line.

Well than: Greene should be an absolute monster with that line of thinking.

He had over 300 yards and averaged over 5.5 yards a carry in the playoffs. Imagine what hes going to do in the regular season with your line of thinking?

[jimibadfish]

:lol Yeah. Sure. I guess you got me there. That has nothing to do with TJ being way better than LT.

[kingchrisII]

:lol Yeah. Sure. I guess you got me there. That has nothing to do with TJ being way better than LT.

Do you have any proof of this? Did LT run behind an offensive line that had 3 pro bowlers?

Stats aren't everything.

[jimibadfish]

LT fell off in a huge way this past season in relation to years past on one of the best offenses in the league. TJ had a career year leading the team to the best rushing offense in the league. You figure it out. I just don't know why they'd want to fuck with it. All the experts I've heard comment on this agree with my pov and not that of the hardcore online defensive Jet fan. I couldn't imagine why. :rolleyes

[kingchrisII]

LT fell off in a huge way this past season in relation to years past on one of the best offenses in the league. TJ had a career year leading the team to the best rushing offense in the league. You figure it out. I just don't know why they'd want to fuck with it. All the experts I've heard comment on this agree with my pov and not that of the hardcore online defensive Jet fan. I couldn't imagine why. :rolleyes

I'm not even disagreeing with you. I'm merely pointing out you can't truly PROVE that LT is worse than Jones. As for what the media says: Fuck it. If I recall correctly, they blasted your Saints for paying the big bucks for a QB coming off a major shoulder injury. That turned out to be pretty good, didnt it?

I'm just saying, lets wait to see what the new backup running back does behind his significantly better O-line with a reduced role before we totally go apeshit. I will be the first to tell you that you are right if Jones has another solid year (10 touchdowns and 1000 yards rushing), and LT doesn't put up respectable numbers for a backup running back. (At least 3.5 yards a carry, and over 600 yards rushing)

[jimibadfish]

Whatever. You can't prove anything really about anything of this nature. So let's just stop talking about it.

[kingchrisII]

Whatever. You can't prove anything really about anything of this nature. So let's just stop talking about it.

I'm not going into your teams thread talking shit. you are entitled to your opinion, and im entitled to disagree. the only difference is im not acting like I know everything. As I said, if Jones puts up solid numbers, and LT doesnt, I will personally admit to you that you were correct, and I was incorrect.

[jimibadfish]

Questioning a move everyone is questioning is not talking shit. Fuck the Jets. :D

[FunkyTeaParty]

LTII is finished.

Who is the Chargers RB? Right. Then why did they let the face of the franchise walk away?

[jimibadfish]

LTII is finished.

Who is the Chargers RB? Right. Then why did they let the face of the franchise walk away?

WHy you talking shit fool? :violent

[FunkyTeaParty]

WHy you talking shit fool? :violent

Not talking shit as much as stating what I observe.

[jimibadfish]

joking.

[FunkyTeaParty]

I figured.

The bright side is I don't think they really need LTII to be that good. Greene and Leon should be able to handle the bulk.