**Official New York Jets Fan Thread**

[CrashDMB237]

Hopefully Coles is back. And damn, Thomas has fallen. I remember when he was the big free agent a few years back.

Nope, they brought back Clowney instead. Clowney is fucking useless.

[hbktonyb]

Ughh, Clowney? Was hoping for Coles.

I liked Woodhead on Hard Knocks.

[rconverse]

Your post doesn't make much sense, the AFC East is arguably the best division in the NFL.

How does it not make sense? It's like the Cubs in the post season. Cool, but you know they're not going to win it all.

If the Jets and the Ravens are the best the NFL has to offer, maybe there should be a lockout next year so they can wrangle up some talent.

[CrashDMB237]

Ughh, Clowney? Was hoping for Coles.

I liked Woodhead on Hard Knocks.

Me too, Coles can at least run a route. Clowney can't receive or play special teams. In fact I think our special teams just got a little worse.

[Beebz]

Let's add up points on the board from this past weekend and see what happens.

Unfair assessment? NE played Cincy, Baltimore played NYJ and Pittsburg/Miami played equi-shitty division celler dwellers.

Baltimore + Pitt + Cincy = 10 + 15 + 24 = 49
New England + New York + Miami = 38 + 9 + 15 = 62

Scoreboard, bitches.

:lol:lol:lol:lol, WhT?

The ravens and pats are equal??? You beat the jets by one point...imagine if you played a team that actually had an O....I think you are seriously over estimating your win yesterday...

Well, the Ravens beat the living piss out of the Patriots at Foxboro in the playoffs last season and both teams started out 1-0. I think even is a pretty fair characterization.

Hopefully Coles is back. And damn, Thomas has fallen. I remember when he was the big free agent a few years back.

The people he played with on the Ravens made him look so much better than he was. I'll agree he seemed to regress in NY, though.

Also, read a funny comment the other day: the ball Bart Scott threw at Ray Rice in the pregame was the best throw made by a Jets player all day.

:lol:lol:lol:lol

[kingchrisII]

Holy crap, why is everyone flipping out about a 1 point loss to another superbowl front runner?

Congrats New England, you beat the piss out of the Bengals, we did that in the playoffs.

Congrats Miami, you beat the shitty ass Buffalo Bills.

[TempHelpNeeded]

But you guys "upgraded" and lost.

[dmbgodagirl41]

:lol:lol:lol:lol, WhT?

Talkin' out of my ass, as usual. Why'd you think it'd be any different? :confused:confused

[dmbgodagirl41]

Holy crap, why is everyone flipping out about a 1 point loss to another superbowl front runner?

Congrats New England, you beat the piss out of the Bengals, we did that in the playoffs.

Congrats Miami, you beat the shitty ass Buffalo Bills.

lulz SB III

[pathetic]

Holy crap, why is everyone flipping out about a 1 point loss to another superbowl front runner?

Congrats New England, you beat the piss out of the Bengals, we did that in the playoffs.

Congrats Miami, you beat the shitty ass Buffalo Bills.

not just a 1 point loss, but a 10-9 shootout

[rickyh24]

Holy crap, why is everyone flipping out about a 1 point loss to another superbowl front runner?


:lol :lol

[dmbmuskie]

Sanchez drops back. Incomplete.

[Beebz]

Holy crap, why is everyone flipping out about a 1 point loss to another superbowl front runner?

Congrats New England, you beat the piss out of the Bengals, we did that in the playoffs.

Congrats Miami, you beat the shitty ass Buffalo Bills.

The only SB contender in that game was the Ravens. Do a lot of teams with quarterbacks who can't throw and TEs who dont dont that you need 10 yards for a first down and CBs who forget that you cant maul a receiver win SBs?

Sanchez drops back. Incomplete.

:lol:lol:lol

[hbktonyb]

Public started hammering NE, they are now 1.5 point favorites. Jets opened as 1 point favorites :lol

[CrashDMB237]

The only SB contender in that game was the Ravens. Do a lot of teams with quarterbacks who can't throw and TEs who dont dont that you need 10 yards for a first down and CBs who forget that you cant maul a receiver win SBs?

Talking quite a bit for a team that only won by a point.

[Beebz]

Talking quite a bit for a team that only won by a point.

This isnt college football. 1-0 = 1-0.

Also, the Ravens dominated every single facet of the game. Si.com Power Rankings have them at No. 2. A snippet:


Baltimore Ravens (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/teams/ravens/) (1-0)
Ravens-Jets on Monday night really was the most lopsided one-point game I can ever recall. I guess Baltimore could have lost, but I never once thought it would.

I dont know that the Ravens are the best team in football, but I do know that there isn;t one team out there they can't beat.

[CrashDMB237]

This isnt college football. 1-0 = 1-0.

Also, the Ravens dominated every single facet of the game.

They did? Was it the 49 yards of total rushing that sold the deal? Or maybe the average starting position inside their own 20? Or it could have been giving up average starting position in the negative? Or the 3 turnovers? Dom-i-nation!

[rickyh24]

Public started hammering NE, they are now 1.5 point favorites. Jets opened as 1 point favorites :lol

Easy money right now.

[hbktonyb]

This game is a classic 'Vegas makes tons of money' game. Everyone betting NE, coming off a huge performance on Sunday. Jets looked like a high school team. But, Jets at home with backs against the wall, they cover. (I can dream, right?)

[FunkyTeaParty]

The Boston Herald reports that Brady ripped into Patriots fans today, wondering aloud why they leave games early while fans of other teams don't.

"The road environment is very different than our friendly home crowd, who when I looked up, half the stadium was gone when we were up 21 points early fourth quarter, which I wasn't so happy about," Brady said. "I don't think the Jets fans leave early. They're going to be loud the whole game. Communication is always an issue."

[CrashDMB237]

Oh boo fucking hoo Tom. You know why Jets fans don't leave? Because we're either down 7 or up 7. "Blowout win" is not in our vocabulary. Shit, we could be up 21 in the fourth quarter too and I don't think I'd leave for fear I'd miss a game that goes down to the wire with the Jets.

[pathetic]

for the record tom, i've never left a game early

[hbktonyb]

The Boston Herald reports that Brady ripped into Patriots fans today, wondering aloud why they leave games early while fans of other teams don't.

"The road environment is very different than our friendly home crowd, who when I looked up, half the stadium was gone when we were up 21 points early fourth quarter, which I wasn't so happy about," Brady said. "I don't think the Jets fans leave early. They're going to be loud the whole game. Communication is always an issue."

Strange comment, for the most part I don't leave early, but if the Jets are getting blown out, you bet your ass I'm out of there in the 4th quarter.

[coyne]

At the end of the day, out of all teams for the jets to face week 1 the ravens probably were the toughest matchup. Obviously sanchez and the offense looked like trash, but it doesnt help facing that defense. If they eliminate the mental errors like fumbling off our own linemans ass, penalties which lead to 1st and goal on the 1, they should be alright. They had 6 first downs and lost by one point, if the jets are THAT bad then the ravens cant be THAT good. As for the pats, your boy fred taylor aint rushing for shit if the highly praised ray rice managed only 43 yards on 21 attempts. And if moss is a non factor vs revis then that leaves welker, who usually kills the jets ill give you that. Only place to go for the jets offense is up after last weeks display, and vs the pats defense who showed their true colors in the 2nd half, i think its possible.

[pathetic]

At the end of the day, out of all teams for the jets to face week 1 the ravens probably were the toughest matchup. Obviously sanchez and the offense looked like trash, but it doesnt help facing that defense. If they eliminate the mental errors like fumbling off our own linemans ass, penalties which lead to 1st and goal on the 1, they should be alright. They had 6 first downs and lost by one point, if the jets are THAT bad then the ravens cant be THAT good. As for the pats, your boy fred taylor aint rushing for shit if the highly praised ray rice managed only 43 yards on 21 attempts. And if moss is a non factor vs revis then that leaves welker, who usually kills the jets ill give you that. Only place to go for the jets offense is up after last weeks display, and vs the pats defense who showed their true colors in the 2nd half, i think its possible.

Against an offense of Carson Palmer, TO, and Ocho...jets offense doesnt worry anyone i think sanchez looked down field maybe once or twice the whole game. check down throws almost every time. pats will be all over that

[CrashDMB237]

Against an offense of Carson Palmer, TO, and Ocho...jets offense doesnt worry anyone i think sanchez looked down field maybe once or twice the whole game. check down throws almost every time. pats will be all over that

When they actually called plays that required looking down field, the pass rush was all over him. The Pats pass rush is NOwhere near what the Ravens pass rush is.

[coyne]

True, he looked lost, the one time he did complete to keller 33 yards down to the 1 was brought back on a penalty. After that he didn't let anything develop. The worst part was that they were rushing 3, he had plenty of time to throw on majority of the plays yet he still dumped it off. Its gotta be something theyre working on this week

[hbktonyb]

Other than the Jets, the Ravens defense would be toughest for Sanchez because of the pass rush. I think the Jets offense will be better than last week. What worries me is Brady. If Rex insists on throwing the same blitz package on 3rd down all game, Brady will find a way to get a short pass off where the receiver can run for a bunch of yards, like Manning did in the playoffs last year. Once in a while I'd like to see Rex throw in different 3rd down packages, hell, even drop back a few times. Everyone in the stadium knows the house is coming.

[rickyh24]

And if moss is a non factor vs revis then that leaves welker

You should probably look at the pats boxscore for the last game. A lot more than welker to worry about after moss. Edelman will also be playing this week most likely.

[pathetic]

True, he looked lost, the one time he did complete to keller 33 yards down to the 1 was brought back on a penalty. After that he didn't let anything develop. The worst part was that they were rushing 3, he had plenty of time to throw on majority of the plays yet he still dumped it off. Its gotta be something theyre working on this week

i think he has it in his head that he doesnt want to make a mistake by throwing a pick and just dumps the ball off without even thinking twice. it's good to not take all those chances, but you're never going anywhere if you cant throw the ball down field.

[pathetic]

with welker, edelman, moss, and crumpler on the field sanchez is going to have to be prepared to go TD for TD with brady and i dont think that's going to happen.

[rickyh24]

with welker, edelman, moss, and crumpler on the field sanchez is going to have to be prepared to go TD for TD with brady and i dont think that's going to happen.

I think hernandez and growkowski are just as big of a threat as crumpler. There is always faulk out of the backfield too.

[pathetic]

I think hernandez and growkowski are just as big of a threat as crumpler. There is always faulk out of the backfield too.

for sure. crumpler is more of a blocking threat, but that 3headed TE system is going to work wonders this season

[rickyh24]

for sure. crumpler is more of a blocking threat, but that 3headed TE system is going to work wonders this season

I love how last week hernandez and moss were running down field together and both defenders followed moss :lol brady hits hernandez for a 45 yard gain.

[pathetic]

I love how last week hernandez and moss were running down field together and both defenders followed moss :lol brady hits hernandez for a 45 yard gain.

yup :thumbsup wide open.

sanchez wouldve dumped it off to LT for a 3yard loss

[CrashDMB237]

yup :thumbsup wide open.

sanchez wouldve dumped it off to LT for a 3yard loss

Oh totally, you know, because that fierce Bengals defense really put the kind of coverage on your receivers and pressure on the QB that the Ravens D put on ours.

[dmbmuskie]

Oh totally, you know, because that fierce Bengals defense really put the kind of coverage on your receivers and pressure on the QB that the Ravens D put on ours.

The Bengals corners are better than your corners.

[CrashDMB237]

The Bengals corners are better than your corners.

Because that's relevant to the discussion. Good job :thumbsup

Edit: Debatable, for the record.

Edit 2: And as we all know, cornerbacks are the only players that drop back into coverage. You really make awful posts frequently about football.

[pathetic]

brady had a lot of time to throw last week. i bet he gets a second less this week. that's still like 4 seconds in the pocket. too much time for him

[dmbmuskie]

Because that's relevant to the discussion. Good job :thumbsup

Edit: Debatable, for the record.

Edit 2: And as we all know, cornerbacks are the only players that drop back into coverage. You really make awful posts frequently about football.

:lol:lol

[rickyh24]

brady had a lot of time to throw last week. i bet he gets a second less this week. that's still like 4 seconds in the pocket. too much time for him

I hope the jets come out and go all out like they did against flacco. Brady will tear that blitz apart.

[pathetic]

i cant wait for this game! i wish i was going...

[dmbmuskie]

I hope the jets come out and go all out like they did against flacco. Brady will tear that blitz apart.

That's their only move.

[thebestauntie]

Is it Sunday at 4:15pm yet? :lol

[hbktonyb]

It's Wednesday and I'm over my depression babbbybybybybybybyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! I can't wait to see the Jets spank Brady on Sunday. We played the 2nd best defense in the league and it was week 1, we could only get better. Plus, only gave up 10 points to a good offense. We'll probably end up going 11-5. I'M BACK!

J-E-T-S JETSJETSJETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pathetic]

It's Wednesday and I'm over my depression babbbybybybybybybyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! I can't wait to see the Jets spank Brady on Sunday. We played the 2nd best defense in the league and it was week 1, we could only get better. Plus, only gave up 10 points to a good offense. We'll probably end up going 11-5. I'M BACK!

J-E-T-S JETSJETSJETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11-5 is awesome after starting out 0-2

[rickyh24]

Plus, only gave up 10 points to a good offense.



Can't wait to see how they do against a great offense.

[hbktonyb]

:lol :lol

God I hate being a Jet fan.

[rconverse]

I fail to see why Jets fans are so optimistic about this season. 11-5? Okay.

[coyne]

I fail to see why Jets fans are so optimistic about this season. 11-5? Okay.

cuz they lost to the ravens by 1 and ravens are going to the superbowl...duh

[hbktonyb]

You guys don't come around this thread often enough. Read the last 135 pages :lol

[TempHelpNeeded]

The Boston Herald reports that Brady ripped into Patriots fans today, wondering aloud why they leave games early while fans of other teams don't.

"The road environment is very different than our friendly home crowd, who when I looked up, half the stadium was gone when we were up 21 points early fourth quarter, which I wasn't so happy about," Brady said. "I don't think the Jets fans leave early. They're going to be loud the whole game. Communication is always an issue."


Tom should be talking to the shitty people who have season tickets and just use Patriots games as ways to sell to clients. Real fans are there the whole way through. I've sat through crushing Red Sox defeats just cause fuck it, I bought a ticket.

But for me to go on, I'd be getting on a whole nother rant about season ticket sales.

[zdaddy]

The Boston Herald reports that Brady ripped into Patriots fans today, wondering aloud why they leave games early while fans of other teams don't.

"The road environment is very different than our friendly home crowd, who when I looked up, half the stadium was gone when we were up 21 points early fourth quarter, which I wasn't so happy about," Brady said. "I don't think the Jets fans leave early. They're going to be loud the whole game. Communication is always an issue."
This is what happens when you're owner trades game atmosphere for corporate socializing.

There was an article a few years ago (maybe Bill Simmons) about how Gillette Stadium destroyed the fan experience of home Patriot games compared to old Foxborough Stadium, and how all of the old Regular Joe season ticket holders who are the real fans got thrown up into the upper decks while the lower seating area comprised of people who were there only to be seen. This seems to be coming a more relevant issue with new stadiums where only the super rich and the corporate big wigs have an opportunity to create a good crowd experience (Cowboys Stadium, New Meadowlands, New Yankee Stadium). Im glad places like Lambeau and Arrowhead are still around to preserve that which seems be becoming antique.

[HoldemHart]

Which one of you guys is this?

http://deadspin.com/5640708/jets-fans-are-just-as-classy-as-their-team

Savages.

[hbktonyb]

T Owens quote - not exact - "Revis and Antonio calling eachother the Jordan and Pippen of the NFL...after Sunday, I'm thinking more like the New Jersey Nets, or Ren and Stimpy."...:lol

Hey, TO, what about you and Ocho getting spanked on Sunday??

[rickyh24]

Ren and Stimpy :lol

[thebestauntie]

Is it Sunday yet? :lol

[rickyh24]

I'm not drunk in a Jersey parking lot.......so no it's not Sunday.

[pathetic]

why is TO talking shit? :lol

[thebestauntie]

I'm not drunk in a Jersey parking lot.......so no it's not Sunday.
Dammit! :lol

[rickyh24]

why is TO talking shit? :lol

Revis called Moss and TO "Slouches" :lol

[pathetic]

Revis called Moss and TO "Slouches" :lol

yeah i saw that on ESPN. what a dumbass.

i have no idea why the jets dont put revis on welker and Cromartie and a safety to double moss. i doubt revis would be able to cover welker but he'd do a better job than cromartie's gonna do

[hbktonyb]

Just got to the lot...starting early

[rickyh24]

Just got to the lot...starting early

:lol :lol

[thebestauntie]

:lol :lol
The sad part is, I believe him. :lol

[hbktonyb]

:lol :lol

I can't wait for Sunday. If we lose, you'll see me on the field spearing Sanchez at the end of the 4th quarter.

[HoldemHart]

:lol @ Bill Simmons calling Sanchez "Jose Harrington"

[hbktonyb]

Holy shit, right now 97% of Vegas who are betting the Jets game are taking the Pats. You know what that means...Jets dominate.

[rickyh24]

Holy shit, right now 97% of Vegas who are betting the Jets game are taking the Pats. You know what that means...Jets dominate.


Can't dominate if you can't score.

[pathetic]

Holy shit, right now 97% of Vegas who are betting the Jets game are taking the Pats. You know what that means...Jets dominate.

means 97% of betters know what they're talking about

Can't dominate if you can't score.

:lol:lol

[hbktonyb]

I'm still trying to figure out how we are going to stop Welker. Moss will be shut down.

[thebestauntie]

I'm still trying to figure out how we are going to stop Welker. Moss will be shut down.
I'm pretty sure the Jets can only shut one of them down. You don't get both. :lol

[rickyh24]

Moss will be shut down.

Doesn't really matter. As long as Moss keeps Revis busy he is doing his job. Pats can win this game without him catching a ball.

[pathetic]

moss will be shut down by a corner that skipped training camp and is running his mouth?

moss is gonna earn a new contract sun. sig it

[rickyh24]

moss will be shut down by a corner that skipped training camp and is running his mouth?

moss is gonna earn a new contract sun. sig it

Revis can not be beat didn't you get the memo??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyPtJF-IgPc

[pathetic]

Revis can not be beat didn't you get the memo??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyPtJF-IgPc

Ginn is so fast

moss used to have that speed

[CrashDMB237]

Revis can not be beat didn't you get the memo??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyPtJF-IgPc

Apparently Moss didn't get the memo:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/scoreboards/2009/09/20/3412_viewcast.html

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=291122017

[rickyh24]

:lol Nice box scores. I noticed the Jets won by less than a TD when Welker didn't play then when Welker did play they got stomped while he caught 15 for 192. :lol This is going to be a fun game to be at.

[CrashDMB237]

:lol Nice box scores. I noticed the Jets won by less than a TD when Welker didn't play then when Welker did play they got stomped while he caught 15 for 192. :lol This is going to be a fun game to be at.

I didn't say shit about the rest of your team, I said Revis has Moss pretty well covered.

Between all the Jets/Pats and Celtics shit that goes on, I think I need to find you somewhere Sunday and throw back a beer or 5 :lol

[rickyh24]

I didn't say shit about the rest of your team, I said Revis has Moss pretty well covered.

Between all the Jets/Pats and Celtics shit that goes on, I think I need to find you somewhere Sunday and throw back a beer or 5 :lol

What time are you getting down there? Lots open at 11 right?

[thebestauntie]

Oh man I wanna be there with you guys, it's just not fair! :( :shrug :lol

[CrashDMB237]

What time are you getting down there? Lots open at 11 right?

Yea unfortunately I'm not going to get there until real close to kick off. I'm gonna miss most of our tailgate and everything. Fucking birth classes, the least manly thing in the world on the most manly day of the week.

[thebestauntie]

Yea unfortunately I'm not going to get there until real close to kick off. I'm gonna miss most of our tailgate and everything. Fucking birth classes, the least manly thing in the world on the most manly day of the week.
Wait, you knocked up your girlfriend?

[pathetic]

Wait, you knocked up your girlfriend?

or did he?!?!

Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!

[jackisback24]

Wait, you knocked up your girlfriend?
now that's a twist the Movie Thread would love.:D

[jackisback24]

or did he?!?!

Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJLSZfpwgFs

[pathetic]

exactly!

[CrashDMB237]

Wait, you knocked up your girlfriend?

That would be correct! At least SOMEONE in the tri-state area is scoring.

[thebestauntie]

That would be correct! At least SOMEONE in the tri-state area is scoring.
Holy crap this post totally made my day! :lol :lol :lol :lol


Seriously though, congratulations. :)

[CrashDMB237]

Holy crap this post totally made my day! :lol :lol :lol :lol


Seriously though, congratulations. :)

Thanks! Obviously it wasn't planned but it was going to happen eventually... we just chose the kid part before the marriage part.

[pathetic]

Thanks! Obviously it wasn't planned but it was going to happen eventually... we just chose the kid part before the marriage part.

are you going to name your son Wes?

[thebestauntie]

Thanks! Obviously it wasn't planned but it was going to happen eventually... we just chose the kid part before the marriage part.
Ha ha, I figured that. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have missed the engagement and getting married part. Otherwise I'd have to hang up my shield as Ants #1 Stalker. :lol

So are you excited, nervous, scared? I'm sorry, I am a girl after all, I have to ask these questions even if we are in the Tailgate forum. :lol

[CrashDMB237]

are you going to name your son Wes?

Nope, it's a girl. I'll name her Tom.

[pathetic]

Nope, it's a girl. I'll name her Tom.

:lol :lol

[CrashDMB237]

Ha ha, I figured that. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have missed the engagement and getting married part. Otherwise I'd have to hang up my shield as Ants #1 Stalker. :lol

So are you excited, nervous, scared? I'm sorry, I am a girl after all, I have to ask these questions even if we are in the Tailgate forum. :lol

All of the above. I'm not nervous about having a kid, I've always wanted kids and I'm 25, I guess now is as good a time to grow up as ever. Just between my work schedule with the NBA, the 45 minute commute, plus my side music teaching job (all of which I need to pay rent/bills/fuck around) I'm nervous about how much I'll be around and how pissed my chick will be about it :lol

Lucky her and her whole family is Cowboys fans so I will get to have Sundays to myself to throw shit around my TV room while watching the Jets.

[thebestauntie]

All of the above. I'm not nervous about having a kid, I've always wanted kids and I'm 25, I guess now is as good a time to grow up as ever. Just between my work schedule with the NBA, the 45 minute commute, plus my side music teaching job (all of which I need to pay rent/bills/fuck around) I'm nervous about how much I'll be around and how pissed my chick will be about it :lol

Lucky her and her whole family is Cowboys fans so I will get to have Sundays to myself to throw shit around my TV room while watching the Jets.
Well from what all my friends have said who have kids, you're never really ready and prepared, so yeah now is as good a time as any. :lol

Does she have family/friends around that will be able to help her out in the beginning? That's really the hardest part, the adjustment. But you can pretty much guarantee that she won't be happy with that much absence on your part. :lol

[HoldemHart]

All of the above. I'm not nervous about having a kid, I've always wanted kids and I'm 25, I guess now is as good a time to grow up as ever. Just between my work schedule with the NBA, the 45 minute commute, plus my side music teaching job (all of which I need to pay rent/bills/fuck around) I'm nervous about how much I'll be around and how pissed my chick will be about it :lol

Lucky her and her whole family is Cowboys fans so I will get to have Sundays to myself to throw shit around my TV room while watching the Jets.

All ballbusting aside, congrats for you and your girl. I hope you can be on the boards a little bit because I don't know who I would argue with endlessly anymore.

[thebestauntie]

All ballbusting aside, congrats for you and your girl. I hope you can be on the boards a little bit because I don't know who I would argue with endlessly anymore.
Ricky will be heartbroken that you didn't consider him a worthy adversary lol

[CrashDMB237]

Well from what all my friends have said who have kids, you're never really ready and prepared, so yeah now is as good a time as any. :lol

Does she have family/friends around that will be able to help her out in the beginning? That's really the hardest part, the adjustment. But you can pretty much guarantee that she won't be happy with that much absence on your part. :lol

So I've heard. When this all first happened and we were talking with all of our parents I kept saying that there's no fucking way we could go through with this because neither of us are anywhere near prepared... to which I was told by 4 separate people you are NEVER prepared.

She's actually going to be living with her parents for the first few months since it's close and they have the house to accommodate it. Not ideal, but we are gonna need all the help we can get with me in my working situation and her taking classes for a nursing/bloodwork job.

All ballbusting aside, congrats for you and your girl. I hope you can be on the boards a little bit because I don't know who I would argue with endlessly anymore.

Oh I'll be here. For as long as I have a job, I'll be on Ants.

Yes, I already bought a Knicks Carmelo jersey for her. She doesn't care about the name of the stadium. She thinks Wilson Chandler is a starter on most teams in the NBA. Don't worry, it's not going anywhere.

[jackisback24]

All of the above. I'm not nervous about having a kid, I've always wanted kids and I'm 25, I guess now is as good a time to grow up as ever. Just between my work schedule with the NBA, the 45 minute commute, plus my side music teaching job (all of which I need to pay rent/bills/fuck around) I'm nervous about how much I'll be around and how pissed my chick will be about it :lol

Lucky her and her whole family is Cowboys fans so I will get to have Sundays to myself to throw shit around my TV room while watching the Jets.


Congrats, Crash. Being a dad I'm sure will be something that you can't really describe in writing, yet overwhelmingly incredible at the same time.

Curious, what do you do with the NBA? And I always see you in the Stern thread-how did interning help you with your career?

[CrashDMB237]

I work in production for the NBA doing promos, live event stuff, press conferences... pretty much anything run by the NBA itself. Also do footage requests from outside media, for example, the ever-so-catchy Gatorade ad (Evolve) uses Dwight Howard footage that we put together for them. I would say my 9 months at Stern played a big role in me finding a job considering my whole interview here was asking what I did at Stern :lol

[hbktonyb]

Congrats Steve!

[HoldemHart]

Ricky will be heartbroken that you didn't consider him a worthy adversary lol

Ricky and I get along outside of basketball season, come October it's :violent time.

[HoldemHart]

So I've heard. When this all first happened and we were talking with all of our parents I kept saying that there's no fucking way we could go through with this because neither of us are anywhere near prepared... to which I was told by 4 separate people you are NEVER prepared.

She's actually going to be living with her parents for the first few months since it's close and they have the house to accommodate it. Not ideal, but we are gonna need all the help we can get with me in my working situation and her taking classes for a nursing/bloodwork job.



Oh I'll be here. For as long as I have a job, I'll be on Ants.

Yes, I already bought a Knicks Carmelo jersey for her. She doesn't care about the name of the stadium. She thinks Wilson Chandler is a starter on most teams in the NBA. Don't worry, it's not going anywhere.

:lol Well played, good sir.

[jackisback24]

I work in production for the NBA doing promos, live event stuff, press conferences... pretty much anything run by the NBA itself. Also do footage requests from outside media, for example, the ever-so-catchy Gatorade ad (Evolve) uses Dwight Howard footage that we put together for them. I would say my 9 months at Stern played a big role in me finding a job considering my whole interview here was asking what I did at Stern :lol


That's awesome. How do you find these jobs? I'm sure they pick students or young people for interships at Stern all the time, but how'd you hear of the NBA job? I don't think Hot Jobs or Monster, but who knows?

[thebestauntie]

Ricky and I get along outside of basketball season, come October it's confetti time.
Fixed that for ya. ;)

[HoldemHart]

Fixed that for ya. ;)

Like I always say: The more confetti, the better.

[thebestauntie]

Like I always say: The more confetti, the better.
That's right, cause nothing is better than confetti. :lol

[CrashDMB237]

That's awesome. How do you find these jobs? I'm sure they pick students or young people for interships at Stern all the time, but how'd you hear of the NBA job? I don't think Hot Jobs or Monster, but who knows?

Honestly, both were extreme dumb luck. I applied on the Howard TV website my junior year of college, they interviewed me a week later, I had the internship. Then when that was over they asked me to come back on the radio side. Then before I graduated I was just looking at jobs on different company websites, found this one on nba.com and the rest is history.

[jackisback24]

Honestly, both were extreme dumb luck. I applied on the Howard TV website my junior year of college, they interviewed me a week later, I had the internship. Then when that was over they asked me to come back on the radio side. Then before I graduated I was just looking at jobs on different company websites, found this one on nba.com and the rest is history.


damn, being based in Stamford I'm surprised you didn't try for WWE as they're always having production jobs on Hotjobs.com.

[CrashDMB237]

damn, being based in Stamford I'm surprised you didn't try for WWE as they're always having production jobs on Hotjobs.com.

I had two job offers from there, both paid almost 10k less than the NBA job! I always try to get in at WWE though just because you KNOW they will never go out of business. Plus I can walk there from my apartment.

[jackisback24]

I had two job offers from there, both paid almost 10k less than the NBA job! I always try to get in at WWE though just because you KNOW they will never go out of business. Plus I can walk there from my apartment.
Damn that Stern internship goes a long way!:lol Where did you go to college?

[CrashDMB237]

I started at Hofstra and transferred to Sacred Heart University in Fairfield, CT. It's a smaller school but they have a real good media program. Of course they didn't do shit to help me with my internship but I got really good training at least :lol

[jackisback24]

I started at Hofstra and transferred to Sacred Heart University in Fairfield, CT. It's a smaller school but they have a real good media program. Of course they didn't do shit to help me with my internship but I got really good training at least :lol
i have family in Fairfield. Small world. I think Linda McMahon or Vince is or has something to do with Sacred Heart.

[CrashDMB237]

i have family in Fairfield. Small world. I think Linda McMahon or Vince is or has something to do with Sacred Heart.

Yup, Linda McMahon is on the board there. And I STILL couldn't get a decent job at the WWE :lol

[hbktonyb]

Maybe you can help her campaign. I heard she is only down 6% now.

[TR3Esmoker]

http://video.adultswim.com/carl/carls-lock-new-york-jets-vs-new-england-patriots.html

[hbktonyb]

Leaving here in t-minus 1.5 hours. Must win game.

[rickyh24]

On the road now. Just leaving philly. Gotta hit up the wawa for some ice.

[hbktonyb]

Wawa = greatest store ever

[rickyh24]

;lol I love wawa.

[hbktonyb]

Lot is bumpin. In d1

[hbktonyb]

Line up to 3

[hbktonyb]

Someone fuckin explain how that is a personal foul. Wow

[rickyh24]

Hands to the face. Pretty easy explanation. All the homers here thought it was a clean hit :lol

[hbktonyb]

Huge. Cmon

[rickyh24]

All these commercials going on in the stadium may be the lamest thing I have ever seen. They need to tone it down a notch or two.

[rickyh24]

Omg revis!

[vaxarado]

Omg revis!

:lol Hes now getting stretched. I think Revis also thought he had help over the top but the safety wasn't there.

[hbktonyb]

I am physically and mentally drained. Why

[rickyh24]

:lol Hes now getting stretched. I think Revis also thought he had help over the top but the safety wasn't there.

Omg hamstring.

[jaking1185]

Omg hamstring.

It's funny he didn't grab it until Moss burned him. :lol

[vaxarado]

It's funny he didn't grab it until Moss burned him. :lol

If he was going to tweak it, it would likely occur then. At that point is where you're going to try to stretch it out to reach him.

[hbktonyb]

Fuck fuck

[jaking1185]

If he was going to tweak it, it would likely occur then. At that point is where you're going to try to stretch it out to reach him.

If it was somebody else I'd believe it. I think it will just be used as an excuse for him giving up the TD, not the fact that he blew off most of training camp for more $$$ and was not prepared for the season.

[hbktonyb]

Season or bust

[vaxarado]

Now Mangold out? Ouch, the Jets are struggling.

[vaxarado]

If it was somebody else I'd believe it. I think it will just be used as an excuse for him giving up the TD, not the fact that he blew off most of training camp for more $$$ and was not prepared for the season.

I don't blame him for wanting to get more money.

And its actually pretty common for players who hold out to get hurt, simply because they don't go through the normal procedure of getting into game shape.

[hbktonyb]

Revis and mangold done

[hbktonyb]

No question ahhhhh

[rickyh24]

That looks like a pick.

[vaxarado]

That looks like a pick.

Its a pick.

[rconverse]

Sanchez has looked so much better this week.

[rickyh24]

Its a pick.

Is that why the jets have the ball now?

[hbktonyb]

Done ahhhh

[vaxarado]

Is that why the jets have the ball now?

:lol I posted that before they made the ruling and they were just about to look at it.

[hbktonyb]

Fuckin huge cmon cunt

[hbktonyb]

Wow pats are like red sox hahahaha

[hbktonyb]

That good bitches

[hbktonyb]

Who needs him or gold

[hbktonyb]

Mnothong bc we are that good cunts

[rickyh24]

Wow pats are like red sox hahahaha

So what's the jets record now?

[gripes81]

Brady may be losing but he has the best looking hair out there...lol

[hbktonyb]

Same as sucky Brady hahahaha

[hbktonyb]

Wow we are that good

[thebestauntie]

Wow we are that good
I hate you.

[hbktonyb]

That good babbbbbyyyyyyy

[pathetic]

phantom PI calls FTW!!!!

[coyne]

lolololol^

[hbktonyb]

Wow bitter much? At least I don't make excuses

[kingchrisII]

1-1, what's the Pats divisional record so far?

So what's the jets record now?

[hbktonyb]

Just got home....wow. What a huge 2nd half. Brady and the Pats couldn't do anything, Revis or not. Hoping Taylor, Revis, and Mangold is ok.

[rickyh24]

1-1, what's the Pats divisional record so far?

Who cares?? Its week 2.

[hbktonyb]

Patriots blololollololololololol

[rickyh24]

one a n d one

[hbktonyb]

Time to beat the dolphins. You guys better be rooting for us next week. Belichek blolololol :lol

[rickyh24]

Jets fans are so obnoxious.

[hbktonyb]

hahahahah, you would say that, you stepped into our house babbyyyyyyyy

[CrashDMB237]

phantom PI calls FTW!!!!

Jets fans are so obnoxious.

Both are huge :lol

Play it down all you want.... we beat you, bad. it was 18-0 in the second half without our best defensive player. Your second TD came on a blown defensive play in which Revis got hurt.

[hbktonyb]

WOuld be very nervous as a Pats fan.

[CrashDMB237]

Tom Brady: "We couldn't do anything, we sucked" :lol

At least the QB isn't in denial, just the fans are.

[hbktonyb]

Especially the fans at the stadium :lol3

[kingchrisII]

gotta love pats fans.

[Timebomb07]

Sanchez had a great comeback since last week, good to see for the Jets:thumbsup

If they get there pass game going, they'll be tough to beat...



Until Halloween:D

[rickyh24]

Tom Brady: "We couldn't do anything, we sucked" :lol

At least the QB isn't in denial, just the fans are.

Who is saying they didn't suck? They are 1-1 that's all I'm saying. I think they may be able to still salvage the season.

[rickyh24]

WOuld be very nervous as a Pats fan.

:lol gotta love jets fans

[kingchrisII]

:lol gotta love jets fans

While the season isn't over by any stretch of the imagination, it doesn't concern you that your team played like shit against a division rival who had 1 less day to prepare, were without there best defensive player for half the game, and passed the ball at will WITHOUT THERE BEST RECEIVER. (Santonio says be back in 2 weeks). Even though the Pats always find a way to win, this is clearly an alarm going off.

Now if the Jets play like this the next two weeks, they are 3-1 and 3-0 in the division.

[rickyh24]

And if the jets lose to miami they are 1-2. If the pats beat the bills they are 2-1. Ifs are fun.

[kingchrisII]

And if the jets lose to miami they are 1-2. If the pats beat the bills they are 2-1. Ifs are fun.

Ok, I hate the Pats, but its not IF the Pats beat the Bills, its WHEN the Pats beat the Bills.

But not a chance the Jets lose to Miami this week.

[pathetic]

Ok, I hate the Pats, but its not IF the Pats beat the Bills, its WHEN the Pats beat the Bills.

But not a chance the Jets lose to Miami this week.

:lol :lol sure about that?

[kingchrisII]

:lol :lol sure about that?

I will make my avatar Chad Henne for a week if the Jets lose.

[rickyh24]

Not a chance :lol

[kingchrisII]

:lol :lol sure about that?

Not a chance :lol

I will let you both choose the picture.

[pathetic]

I will make my avatar Chad Henne for a week if the Jets lose.

can you make it this instead?http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_eDBIrz51HpI/S9coD4X4owI/AAAAAAAAAYQ/y6OtzRc74rM/s1600/ricky_pot.jpg

[CrashDMB237]

There SHOULD be no way in hell we lose to Miami after locking down one of the most explosive offenses in the league, but the Dolphins have a way of beating teams that you can't even help. They control the clock and work slowly. If we want to win, we have to beat them at their own game and win with our offense which I'm fairly confident in after yesterday.

[Beebz]

I'd like to point out that Sunday's game is Exhibit Q in why you dont pay a cornerback big money. Revis got torched by Moss, and then his backups did fine when he went out.

[kingchrisII]

can you make it this instead?http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_eDBIrz51HpI/S9coD4X4owI/AAAAAAAAAYQ/y6OtzRc74rM/s1600/ricky_pot.jpg

Deal. :lol

[kingchrisII]

I'd like to point out that Sunday's game is Exhibit Q in why you dont pay a cornerback big money. Revis got torched by Moss, and then his backups did fine when he went out.

Torched? 1 play and he's torched?

[CrashDMB237]

I'd like to point out that Sunday's game is Exhibit Q in why you dont pay a cornerback big money. Revis got torched by Moss, and then his backups did fine when he went out.

Uh, did you watch the play? The defense was nowhere near set. Leonhard and Smith had no clue where they were. The Pats caught the Jets sleeping. Not to mention he pulled his fucking hammy on the play. Most people will get burnt with a pulled hamstring, sorry.

[pathetic]

Torched? 1 play and he's torched?

torched, done, bust!

[Beebz]

Torched? 1 play and he's torched?

When you tout yourself as the best player at the position, you talk shit on Moss, your fans proclaim you a lock down corner, and you get burned for a 34-yard touchdown, yeah, you've been torched. Especially when your backups do better than you.

Uh, did you watch the play? The defense was nowhere near set. Leonhard and Smith had no clue where they were. The Pats caught the Jets sleeping. Not to mention he pulled his fucking hammy on the play. Most people will get burnt with a pulled hamstring, sorry.

Oh, so now the defense wasnt set. It wasnt Moss running right by Revis and making the play. OK. Im sure all those great plays Revis makes are all him, and the mistakes are on the other 10 guys. OK. Then his hammy hurt all of a sudden. Sure, sure.

Hey Revis: you get hurt when you "slouch" and dont condition yourself in the offseason.

[kingchrisII]

When you tout yourself as the best player at the position, you talk shit on Moss, your fans proclaim you a lock down corner, and you get burned for a 34-yard touchdown, yeah, you've been torched. Especially when your backups do better than you.



Oh, so now the defense wasnt set. It wasnt Moss running right by Revis and making the play. OK. Im sure all those great plays Revis makes are all him, and the mistakes are on the other 10 guys. OK. Then his hammy hurt all of a sudden. Sure, sure.

Hey Revis: you get hurt when you "slouch" and dont condition yourself in the offseason.


Someone doesn't know football.

[pathetic]

Hey Revis: you get hurt when you "slouch" and dont condition yourself in the offseason.

:lol:thumbsup

[Beebz]

Someone doesn't know football.

Someone cant refute anything I said.

I know football fine. Revis, and pretty much every good corner since Deion Sanders, has been criminally overrated by fans and media. Its very hard to play corner in today's NFL; no one is lockdown. The talent of your front seven, coupled with the pressure packages of your defensive coordinator, determines how well your defense plays.

Revis benefited a ton from the Jets' scheme and from playing a poor schedule in 2009. He's not bad, not by any means. But he is overrated and the Jets should have never given him the money he wanted, simply because his impact on a game is minimal. He left the game with an injury that is 100 percent attributable to his holdout and the Jets didnt miss a beat. Now you can credit the way the Jets' front seven handled Brady or you can say the backup corners did well. Its one of those two, and either answer is evidence that Revis is simply an above-average corner on a great defense.

[rickyh24]

Revis is awesome. When he shuts people down its all him and when he gets burned its because the proper help wasn't there. :lol gotta love that mindset in a player.

[hbktonyb]

Ok, I hate the Pats, but its not IF the Pats beat the Bills, its WHEN the Pats beat the Bills.

But not a chance the Jets lose to Miami this week.

I think you are way off on this. Miami will be favored to win this game. Revis will probably be out for at least 2 weeks. Miami beat us up last year, and this year they have a QB who is playing better, plus a great receiver. This will be a very tough game to win, tougher than the Patriots.

[hbktonyb]

I'd like to point out that Sunday's game is Exhibit Q in why you dont pay a cornerback big money. Revis got torched by Moss, and then his backups did fine when he went out.

Wow...ignorant

[CrashDMB237]

Revis is awesome. When he shuts people down its all him and when he gets burned its because the proper help wasn't there. :lol gotta love that mindset in a player.

Did you miss the play?

[dmbgodagirl41]

1-1. FUCK, New England's season is done.
:lol

Edit: I was wicked sad to see that the game wasn't on in Baltimore. Bunch of crap. Redskins v. Houston <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< NE v. Jets.

[kingchrisII]

Someone cant refute anything I said.

I know football fine. Revis, and pretty much every good corner since Deion Sanders, has been criminally overrated by fans and media. Its very hard to play corner in today's NFL; no one is lockdown. The talent of your front seven, coupled with the pressure packages of your defensive coordinator, determines how well your defense plays.

Revis benefited a ton from the Jets' scheme and from playing a poor schedule in 2009. He's not bad, not by any means. But he is overrated and the Jets should have never given him the money he wanted, simply because his impact on a game is minimal. He left the game with an injury that is 100 percent attributable to his holdout and the Jets didnt miss a beat. Now you can credit the way the Jets' front seven handled Brady or you can say the backup corners did well. Its one of those two, and either answer is evidence that Revis is simply an above-average corner on a great defense.

I can refute what you said just fine. ITS ONE PLAY. Now look at the statistics of Moss the last three times the Jets and Patriots played. Revis.
And Cromartie is pretty filthy himself, so lets not go crazy and say "oh well the back up did a good job. People are forgetting the last time Cromartie was allowed to play man defense he had 10+ picks, and was pretty lockdown himself.

Revis is awesome. When he shuts people down its all him and when he gets burned its because the proper help wasn't there. :lol gotta love that mindset in a player.

No, I dont even buy the he got hurt excuse. Moss had a filthy play, no corner in history could have defended that, it was over the shoulder 1 handed catch. Undefendable, filthy by Moss, Play of the the year candidate in week 2. My point is its ONE play. Are people going to say Brady doesn't deserve his contract because of 1 interception he threw? That's fucking stupid.

[rickyh24]

I never said anything about revis's contract.

[CrashDMB237]

Let me just say I'm not discrediting Moss AT ALL. It was a fucking beautiful catch that no corner can defend against.

[kingchrisII]

I think you are way off on this. Miami will be favored to win this game. Revis will probably be out for at least 2 weeks. Miami beat us up last year, and this year they have a QB who is playing better, plus a great receiver. This will be a very tough game to win, tougher than the Patriots.

I stand by my statement, not a chance the Dolphins win.

[rickyh24]

Did you miss the play?

Ya I saw him grab his hammy after he got burnt ;yawn

[hbktonyb]

I stand by my statement, not a chance the Dolphins win.

Hope you are right.

[hbktonyb]

There is no point arguing with people that will not give the opposing team credit for anything they do.

[kingchrisII]

Ya I saw him grab his hammy after he got burnt ;yawn

Ok he got burnt that one play, where was Moss against the Jets the last 3 games... besides that one play?

[CrashDMB237]

Ya I saw him grab his hammy after he got burnt ;yawn

My point was that Eric Smith and Jim Leonhard were nowhere near their assignment. If one of them actually was set and did their job the pass would have never been thrown or caught and this becomes a moot point.

Moss put a good move on Revis and made a great catch. Let's not go crazy and say the Jets are better without Revis on the field because of ONE catch.

[rickyh24]

Ok he got burnt that one play, where was Moss against the Jets the last 3 games... besides that one play?

My bad. I thought we were talking about this weeks game. I'm guessing the safety help was there for revis all of last year :rolleyes

[kingchrisII]

My bad. I thought we were talking about this weeks game. I'm guessing the safety help was there for revis all of last year :rolleyes

I dont think your following me. Revis got burned on one play against Moss. Where was Moss the rest of the game, or any other game against Revis.

[Beebz]

My point was that Eric Smith and Jim Leonhard were nowhere near their assignment. If one of them actually was set and did their job the pass would have never been thrown or caught and this becomes a moot point.

Moss put a good move on Revis and made a great catch. Let's not go crazy and say the Jets are better without Revis on the field because of ONE catch.

Revis got beat one-on-one. Period.

I dont think anyone is saying the Jets are better without Revis. But they dont really lose anything, either, because the front seven is teh key to everything the Jets do.

I can refute what you said just fine. ITS ONE PLAY. Now look at the statistics of Moss the last three times the Jets and Patriots played. Revis.
And Cromartie is pretty filthy himself, so lets not go crazy and say "oh well the back up did a good job. People are forgetting the last time Cromartie was allowed to play man defense he had 10+ kids, and was pretty lockdown himself.

No, I dont even buy the he got hurt excuse. Moss had a filthy play, no corner in history could have defended that, it was over the shoulder 1 handed catch. Undefendable, filthy by Moss, Play of the the year candidate in week 2. My point is its ONE play. Are people going to say Brady doesn't deserve his contract because of 1 interception he threw? That's fucking stupid.

Fixed that top one up for ya. ;)

Again, I never thought he deserved his contract. I've been saying that since last season. We always talk about system QBs and system RBs. Why not a system corner? The front seven makes that secondary look incredible. The Ravens have done this for years.

I dont think he's bad. I think he's overrated and the Jets tied up way too much money in a player who doesnt have that much impact on a game. Brady deserves his contact because he's a QB with 3 SB rings who has performed at an elite level for nearly a decade. Revis had one good year against some mostly crappy competition. I would have saved that money for other players.

[Beebz]

I dont think your following me. Revis got burned on one play against Moss. Where was Moss the rest of the game, or any other game against Revis.

Getting covered the exact same way by other corners. And Moss had a TD against Revis last year, too.

[CrashDMB237]

Getting covered the exact same way by other corners. And Moss had a TD against Revis last year, too.

On a 4 yard slant. What a burn.

Aso, the 2nd best CB in the league got "burnt" by Mark Clayton yesterday and he makes more than Revis. Where's that discussion?

[rickyh24]

I dont think your following me. Revis got burned on one play against Moss. Where was Moss the rest of the game, or any other game against Revis.

I don't think you're following me.

[kingchrisII]

Revis got beat one-on-one. Period.

I dont think anyone is saying the Jets are better without Revis. But they dont really lose anything, either, because the front seven is teh key to everything the Jets do.



Fixed that top one up for ya. ;)

Again, I never thought he deserved his contract. I've been saying that since last season. We always talk about system QBs and system RBs. Why not a system corner? The front seven makes that secondary look incredible. The Ravens have done this for years.

I dont think he's bad. I think he's overrated and the Jets tied up way too much money in a player who doesnt have that much impact on a game. Brady deserves his contact because he's a QB with 3 SB rings who has performed at an elite level for nearly a decade. Revis had one good year against some mostly crappy competition. I would have saved that money for other players.

Andre Johnson
Moss x2
T.O. x2
Mike Sims-Walker
The talented Steve Smith (Carolina)
Roddy White
Reggie Wayne x1.5
Ocho Cinco x2

[CrashDMB237]

I don't think you're following me.

I follow you. You're saying Revis gets credit when he locks people down but when he gets "burnt" it's because the help wasn't there.

It's two totally different situations.

[kingchrisII]

Getting covered the exact same way by the other allpro corner, cromartie. And Moss had a 4 yard TD against Revis last year, too, even though in 2 games he had less than 100 yards.

bolded fixed to make sense.

[kingchrisII]

I don't think you're following me.

I'm not making excuses for the one play Revis got burnt on. Moss got the better of Revis, on that one play. One play out of the hundreds he played against Revis, congrats.

[Timebomb07]

I will make my avatar Chad Henne for a week if the Jets lose.

easssssy man. Miami is no push over at all. Good win, but don't go overboard after one game.

[kingchrisII]

easssssy man. Miami is no push over at all. Good win, but don't go overboard after one game.

Jets wont let Miami win 4 games straight against them.

[CrashDMB237]

easssssy man. Miami is no push over at all. Good win, but don't go overboard after one game.

That's the thing, Miami SHOULD be a pushover. They really aren't that good of a football team. They just control the clock and keep the scoring at a minimum. If you fuck up, they capitalize. We need to beat them with our offense, not our defense.

[dmbgodagirl41]

I think Revis is good, but I think he's good like Phyllis Rivers is good or Culpepper was good. Put him around awesome players, and he does great. Take away key people and he crumbles like a house of cards.

[Timebomb07]

Jets wont let Miami win 4 games straight against them.

I agree, and I think the Jets will win, but Miami plays EXTREMELY well vs the Jets and Pats in the recent years. Sanchez has played one good game and they won, he needs to continue doing tht

[Beebz]

On a 4 yard slant. What a burn.

Aso, the 2nd best CB in the league got "burnt" by Mark Clayton yesterday and he makes more than Revis. Where's that discussion?

Its a TD.

Asomuagh is overpaid, too. Way overpaid. Maybe that discussion is in the Raiders' thread?

Andre Johnson
Moss x2
T.O. x2
Mike Sims-Walker
The talented Steve Smith (Carolina)
Roddy White
Reggie Wayne x1.5
Ocho Cinco x2

I went through this last year but I'll do it again.

Andre Johnson was week one. Mike-Sims Walker is a joke of an inclusion, as is TO. Why is Reggie Wayne on the list when he caught 3 balls for 55 yards in the playoff game? You also forgot to mention that Vincent Jackson went for 111 in the playoffs.

Of those teams you listed: New England, Buffalo, Jacksonville, Carolina, Atlanta, Cincy, and Indy, only three finished in the top 15 in total offense (NE, Indy, and Houston). Houston was week one. Wasn't it Jets' fans themselves who were claiming just last week that the first game of the season is an aberration?

The Jets played four teams in 2009 that finished in the top 15 in total offense. They lost two of them. That is an amazing stat. They played a weak schedule and Revis benefitted. That's not a knock, it just shows that he's a little inflated.

bolded fixed to make sense.

Cromartie is an All-Pro now? What was he last week?

And how many receivers in a given week go over 100 yards? 5? 7? So anyone who keeps a wideout under 100 yards can be in the discussion for best CB in the NFL?

[CrashDMB237]

:lol

This guy is too much. Stick with the Ravens bub, you got enough problems to keep you busy til next Sunday. We'll worry about Revis and our defense.

[Timebomb07]

That's the thing, Miami SHOULD be a pushover. They really aren't that good of a football team. They just control the clock and keep the scoring at a minimum. If you fuck up, they capitalize. We need to beat them with our offense, not our defense.

but they're not...they play smart football. The jets are similar in their control of the clock and minimal scoring. Either way, it should be a close game.

[Beebz]

:lol

This guy is too much. Stick with the Ravens bub, you got enough problems to keep you busy til next Sunday. We'll worry about Revis and our defense.

Like I thought: nothing in there is refutable.

I dont expect an honest discussion about Revis in a Jets thread. But facts are fact. The Jets faced bad offenses last season and he benefited. Good for him. Doesnt make him great, though.

[dmbgodagirl41]

To be fair, 9-7 doesn't reflect defensive power house....just sayin'.

[CrashDMB237]

Like I thought: nothing in there is refutable.

I dont expect an honest discussion about Revis in a Jets thread. But facts are fact. The Jets faced bad offenses last season and he benefited. Good for him. Doesnt make him great, though.

There's nothing to refute. You have a bunch of opinions and no fact. The Jets losing two games against the four top 15 offenses they played means dick when it comes to Revis. He did his job EVERY week except 1 and he wasn't even on Vincent Jackson the whole game. You can come up with every excuse in the book as to why Revis shut down the WRs he shut down... but he SHUT THEM DOWN.

[Beebz]

There's nothing to refute. You have a bunch of opinions and no fact. The Jets losing two games against the four top 15 offenses they played means dick when it comes to Revis. He did his job EVERY week except 1 and he wasn't even on Vincent Jackson the whole game. You can come up with every excuse in the book as to why Revis shut down the WRs he shut down... but he SHUT THEM DOWN.

Playing 12 teams with bottom 15 offense is a fact. Im saying he didn't have much to shut down.

Also, I thought it was the lack of safety help that was responsible for Revis' TD Sunday? But every game last year it was all Revis right? He SHUT THEM DOWN all by himself? :lol:lol:lol, OK.

Do you honestly think that Revis covers those wideouts by himself?

[Beebz]

I think Revis is good, but I think he's good like Phyllis Rivers is good or Culpepper was good. Put him around awesome players, and he does great. Take away key people and he crumbles like a house of cards.

This is the closest to reality in this thread. He's a good player. He's not a great player. He's playing with a great front seven and a D-coordinator whose schemes confuse the shit out of QBs.

[CrashDMB237]

Playing 12 teams with bottom 15 offense is a fact. Im saying he didn't have much to shut down.

Also, I thought it was the lack of safety help that was responsible for Revis' TD Sunday? But every game last year it was all Revis right? He SHUT THEM DOWN all by himself? :lol:lol:lol, OK.

Do you honestly think that Revis covers those wideouts by himself?

Look, you can come up with whatever excuses and stats you want. The bottom line is when Revis is on the field, the other team's #1 WR doesn't produce much. And guess what? That's the only thing that matters during the game. Not who played the 15th percentile teams with the lowest average YAC in the first 56% of the game in the last quarter of their schedule, or whatever the fuck you're trying to prove.

[kingchrisII]

Playing 12 teams with bottom 15 offense is a fact. Im saying he didn't have much to shut down.

Also, I thought it was the lack of safety help that was responsible for Revis' TD Sunday? But every game last year it was all Revis right? He SHUT THEM DOWN all by himself? :lol:lol:lol, OK.

Do you honestly think that Revis covers those wideouts by himself?

Why are we comparing team statistics to indiviual players?

[Beebz]

Why are we comparing team statistics to indiviual players?

Because unlike QBs and RBs, WRs aren't self-producing. They depend on a competent QB to get them the ball. Most of the teams the Jets faced in 2009 didnt have one of those. The stats don't lie.

Look, you can come up with whatever excuses and stats you want. The bottom line is when Revis is on the field, the other team's #1 WR doesn't produce much. And guess what? That's the only thing that matters during the game. Not who played the 15th percentile teams with the lowest average YAC in the first 56% of the game in the last quarter of their schedule, or whatever the fuck you're trying to prove.

Its nothing close to whatever obscure stats you threw out there. They didn't play quality offensive teams. Simple as that.

And I'd argue that the score matters more than what any one wideout does, but that's neither here nor there.

[kingchrisII]

Because unlike QBs and RBs, WRs aren't self-producing. They depend on a competent QB to get them the ball. Most of the teams the Jets faced in 2009 didnt have one of those. The stats don't lie.



Its nothing close to whatever obscure stats you threw out there. They didn't play quality offensive teams. Simple as that.

And I'd argue that the score matters more than what any one wideout does, but that's neither here nor there.

So the fact that every receiver I listed was top 33 in yards receiving in 2009 is a flawed statistic? The QB's could get it to them the other 15 games of the season, when Revis was on them they couldnt. Hmmmm.

[CrashDMB237]

So the fact that every receiver I listed was top 33 in yards receiving in 2009 is a flawed statistic? The QB's could get it to them the other 15 games of the season, when Revis was on them they couldnt. Hmmmm.

It's really not worth it man. Stop trying. All we need to know is WRs that Revis covered did not produce like they did every other week of the season. And that will continue to happen.

[Beebz]

So the fact that every receiver I listed was top 33 in yards receiving in 2009 is a flawed statistic? The QB's could get it to them the other 15 games of the season, when Revis was on them they couldnt. Hmmmm.

Top 33? Is that what elite is now? Wow.

I dont doubt that the QBs has trouble getting the ball down the field against the Jets. I strongly question how much of that has to do with Revis.

It's really not worth it man. Stop trying. All we need to know is WRs that Revis covered did not produce like they did every other week of the season. And that will continue to happen.

Except for this week, when he got burned for a long TD and then hurt himself.

[dmbmuskie]

Revis is a very good player, but he primarily plays on the front side and knows the ball is coming out quick because of the blitz.

[CrashDMB237]

Except for this week, when he got burned for a long TD and then hurt himself.

Oh god, the second time in his career and he was already playing sore. Get over it, jesus christ.

[dmbmuskie]

There ain't no shame in being beat over the top by Moss.

[Beebz]

There ain't no shame in being beat over the top by Moss.

There is when you talk shit and hold out because you tell everyone you're the best CB in the league.

[CrashDMB237]

There is when you talk shit and hold out because you tell everyone you're the best CB in the league.

But when you ARE the best CB in the league who got burnt ONCE last season and shut down every other WR you faced, it's really not that big a deal considering the team won 28-14 and it had no effect on the game.

[DLCSBMMK]

But when you ARE the best CB in the league who got burnt ONCE last season and shut down every other WR you faced, it's really not that big a deal considering the team won 28-14 and it had no effect on the game.

Subjectivity ftw

[Beebz]

But when you ARE the best CB in the league who got burnt ONCE last season and shut down every other WR you faced, it's really not that big a deal considering the team won 28-14 and it had no effect on the game.

The Raiders won 28-14? Thought it was a two-point contest? ;)

[CrashDMB237]

And just so I know we aren't crazy in here, from ESPN:

It's easy to blame Revis for getting burned on Randy Moss' 34-yard touchdown catch, but there was confusion in the secondary between safeties Eric Smith and Jim Leonhard. Revis apparently was supposed to have deep help on the play. There was none. Even with that glitch, it took a highlight-film catch by Moss to make it a completion.

[Beebz]

And just so I know we aren't crazy in here, from ESPN:

Yet the safety help never gets mentioned when writers fall all over themselves praising Revis. Also, had that ball been batted down because Moss was bracketed, would Revis had gotten credit? Absolutely.

I mean I certainly get what you're saying. But that only gets mentioned when he doesnt do well; never when he does.

[CrashDMB237]

Yet the safety help never gets mentioned when writers fall all over themselves praising Revis. Also, had that ball been batted down because Moss was bracketed, would Revis had gotten credit? Absolutely.

Uh, why the fuck wouldn't it?

[CrashDMB237]

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[Beebz]

Uh, why the fuck wouldn't it?

<-------- has no idea what your post means.

[CrashDMB237]

<-------- has no idea what your post means.

<----- was responding to your question of "if the ball was batted down would Revis get credit?"