**Official New York Jets Fan Thread**

[hbktonyb]

Hey, I appreciate it LA.

One of my buddies (Pats fan) said something ridiculous about us only caring about the Pats game...completely not true. as I said all week, the Pats win was huge for this franchise, but once again it meant nothing without a win this week.

Hurting pretty bad.

[rickyh24]

You really think last weeks win was "Huge" for this franchise???

[thebestauntie]

I know it sucks. If it helps, I didn't really enjoy the game as much as I would have liked because of who the Jets were playing.

[dmbmuskie]

You really think last weeks win was "Huge" for this franchise???

Did you see them celebrate last week?

Maybe the fans feel different, but I thought it was pretty clear the players and coaches felt last week was a huge win.

[hbktonyb]

You really think last weeks win was "Huge" for this franchise???

Yes, it was...we are a franchise that have not made it to the SB in 42 years. Lost 45-3 to the same team. Pats have dominated this division. We needed to make a statement that there is a new team in the East, and we did that. But for big time Jet fans, nothing will be enough until we win it.

But there is no question, the Pats game was huge for the franchise.

[rickyh24]

But there is no question, the Pats game was huge for the franchise.

:lol I'm sorry but this makes me laugh.

[rickyh24]

Maybe the fans feel different, but I thought it was pretty clear the players and coaches felt last week was a huge win.

It was a big win but huge for the franchise??? It's just a playoff win. What does it mean now??? Nothing. What does it really do franchise wise?? Does it really solidify them as them as the team to beat now or something??

[hbktonyb]

:lol I'm sorry but this makes me laugh.

You really shouldn't understand why. You are the football version of a Yankee fan. It was not just a playoff win. It was the equivalent of if the Sox won the 04 ALCS and lost the world series. Any way you look at it, would have been huge for the franchise.

[DMBfan41]

They should've been talking about this being the biggest game in Jets history since Super Bowl III. No talking at all last week and the Jets came out flat in the first half. The Jets need something to pump them up. Being down 24-0 did that to them, but it was too late

[rickyh24]

You really shouldn't understand why. You are the football version of a Yankee fan. It was not just a playoff win. It was the equivalent of if the Sox won the 04 ALCS and lost the world series. Any way you look at it, would have been huge for the franchise.

How??? It was the equivalent of the Sox getting to the playoffs and losing in the 1st or 2nd round. How is a week 2 playoff win the same as going to the WS and losing?

[mja271]

They should've been talking about this being the biggest game in Jets history since Super Bowl III. No talking at all last week and the Jets came out flat in the first half. The Jets need something to pump them up. Being down 24-0 did that to them, but it was too late

I actually agree with this completely. Although their bravado can annoy the shit out of me, the lack of it this week was a bit concerning, and the way they came out only made it look like they just weren't up for this game (at least not nearly as much as last week). Only until they realize that their season is about to end they decide to show up. Too little, too late.

[hbktonyb]

How??? It was the equivalent of the Sox getting to the playoffs and losing in the 1st or 2nd round. How is a week 2 playoff win the same as going to the WS and losing?

Not about the round, it was the opponent. We have been embarrassed by you for years, and in the biggest game the 2 teams played, we won convincingly. Huge for the franchise.

Whatever, can't argue much anymore, doesn't really matter. We lost the game that would have put us there.

Same old jets.

[kingchrisII]

I'm just curious what calls you thought were bad.

The Cromartie penalty was holding not illegal contact, so it was the right call, IMO, even if Ben was out of the pocket.

Well the punt for one should have been running into the kicker not roughing the kicker.... (really i dont think it should be a penalty, but i understand some sort of call being made, just thought it should have been a 5 yard not a 15)....

I believe it was the same drive, there was a 3rd down play when a steelers lineman grabbed a defensive players helmet with 2 hands and no holding call....

Sanchez slides and Harrison lands on top of him and no personal foul....

Keller hit in endzone without touching ball... no pass interference....

Again the Steelers earned the win, you cant base a game on what the referees did, because the Jets should have never had the first quarter. These are just a few observations...

But congrats to the Steelers and their fans.... they earned it.

[rickyh24]

Well the punt for one should have been running into the kicker not roughing the kicker.... (really i dont think it should be a penalty, but i understand some sort of call being made, just thought it should have been a 5 yard not a 15)....


Wouldn't it have been a first down either way?

[DMBfan41]

they would've scored on 2nd and goal had they run the ball. 2nd and 3rd down was a joke. After those plays everyone knew they were gonna be stopped on 4th down. Granted they got 2 points a few plays later, but that was two bad play calls

[hbktonyb]

Yes, it would have. either way, the Jet player should not have darted into the kicker. It was 4th and 2.

[kingchrisII]

Wouldn't it have been a first down either way?

field position.

[CrashDMB237]

Posted this in the NFL thread, but either way:

Well go fuckin figure. Our defense takes us out of the game and Sanchez of all people keeps us in it.

Props to the Steelers. The Jets came out THE flattest I've seen them since 45-3 and they capitalized. Our defense was non-existant and as always Schottenheimer has NO fucking clue how to get something going on offense and relies on Sanchez to make a 3rd and long pass to extend drives. If he has a job next year I think I lose a little faith in Rex. I'm not even going to talk about the goal line stand. So frustrating. This game was supposed to be on Sanchez's shoulders but he really couldn't have played any better. Something has to be said about his playoff performance this year though. Another year under his belt, and I think the future holds good things.

Again, all I can say is congrats Steelers. There's two halves in a football game and Pittsburgh was better in the first than the Jets were in the second.

[rickyh24]

field position.

You're reaching.

[kingchrisII]

You're reaching.

Every yard counts, but again I'm not trying to make excuses, the Steelers earned this one.

[Kevaroo]

You really think last weeks win was "Huge" for this franchise???

The Jets superbowl was played last week against the Pats. The Jets played as good as they could play against the Pats and the Pats just saw it as another game, if those to teams met in the actual superbowl (which I know isn't possible) NE would have blown them out. The Jets need to realize they've gone to the AFC championship game twice in a row and not shown up either time. They can't really consider themselves legit contenders until they are can A blow teams out, and B get a decent offense. The Dolphins are awful but the Jets are exactly what everyone thought they were (except for them and their fans).

[CrashDMB237]

The Jets superbowl was played last week against the Pats. The Jets played as good as they could play against the Pats and the Pats just saw it as another game, if those to teams met in the actual superbowl (which I know isn't possible) NE would have blown them out. The Jets need to realize they've gone to the AFC championship game twice in a row and not shown up either time. They can't really consider themselves legit contenders until they are can A blow teams out, and B get a decent offense. The Dolphins are awful but the Jets are exactly what everyone thought they were (except for them and their fans).

If we're one strip sack returned for a TD away from the Superbowl, then I don't mind being what everyone thought we were.

[hbktonyb]

The Jets superbowl was played last week against the Pats. The Jets played as good as they could play against the Pats and the Pats just saw it as another game, if those to teams met in the actual superbowl (which I know isn't possible) NE would have blown them out. The Jets need to realize they've gone to the AFC championship game twice in a row and not shown up either time. They can't really consider themselves legit contenders until they are can A blow teams out, and B get a decent offense. The Dolphins are awful but the Jets are exactly what everyone thought they were (except for them and their fans).

huh?? how would it be any different?

[CrashDMB237]

And let me correct myself:

If we're a strip sack returned for a TD away from the Superbowl with a 2nd year head coach, a 2nd year QB and an awful offensive coordinator, then I don't mind being what everyone thought we were.

[hbktonyb]

It is more than we ever got as a franchise, but it's just not enough for me being a season ticket holder to never see a championship. And today was a very winable game...ugh.

Who knows what will happen next year. All those free agents, plus there may not even be a freakin season.

[hmich176]

huh?? how would it be any different?

I think he's saying it would be different if the Jets-Pats game was a more important game than the Divisional round. As in, if the Jets could meet the Patriots in the Super Bowl, the Patriots would care more then.

There's no question the divisional playoff game against the Patriots was important for the Jets. Rex Ryan said that himself - there's nothing to debate. http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/New-York-Jets-coach-Rex-Ryan-New-England-Patriots-game-second-only-to-Super-Bowl-III-011411
"This (game) will probably be the second-biggest game in the history of this franchise," the loquacious Jets coach said in a transcript provided by the team. "Obviously, Super Bowl III being the first. I think (this game) is even (more important) than even last year’s Colts game (in the AFC Championship)."

[hbktonyb]

I guess that's what he meant, but that is kind of ridiculous.

[kingchrisII]

The Jets superbowl was played last week against the Pats. The Jets played as good as they could play against the Pats and the Pats just saw it as another game, if those to teams met in the actual superbowl (which I know isn't possible) NE would have blown them out. The Jets need to realize they've gone to the AFC championship game twice in a row and not shown up either time. They can't really consider themselves legit contenders until they are can A blow teams out, and B get a decent offense. The Dolphins are awful but the Jets are exactly what everyone thought they were (except for them and their fans).

Oh yea just another game....except you go home if you lose....

And you're reaching by saying the Jets didnt show up. They didnt show up in the first half, sure, but they were 1 possesion away from winning, which is why the Steelers had to pass on 3rd down rather than running it and punting it to the Jets. They knew if we touched the ball there was a good chance they lost, so they did what they had to do to secure a win.

[Kevaroo]

If we're one strip sack returned for a TD away from the Superbowl, then I don't mind being what everyone thought we were.
You were also a Nick Folk kick away from being eliminated in the Wild Card game.
huh?? how would it be any different?
Mentally it is completely different
Oh yea just another game....except you go home if you lose....

And you're reaching by saying the Jets didn't show up. They didnt show up in the first half, sure, but they were 1 possession away from winning, which is why the Steelers had to pass on 3rd down rather than running it and punting it to the Jets. They knew if we touched the ball there was a good chance they lost, so they did what they had to do to secure a win.

It's just as easily said that The Steelers played a zone defense the whole second half and played not to lose, because they came out and destroyed the Jets in the first half. Point is you guys lost, and you still needed Mark Sanchez to drive you down the field and score a touchdown, I love how you talk like you had Brady on your team it was a guarantee.

No Offense to any of you guys but you guys seem as if you have never been (played) in a high emotional sports game (a playoff, state championship). The Jets mentally prepared for the Patriots game like it was their Superbowl, the Patriots prepared well like it was just another game. Once the Jets won sure they wanted to go on and win the Superbowl who wouldn't, but they just didn't recover emotionally from the win last week.

[hbktonyb]

Mentally, I don't think it is different against that team, maybe another team...

[Kevaroo]

Mentally, I don't think it is different against that team, maybe another team...

That team as in the Patriots? If you truly think that you are an absolute idiot.

[hbktonyb]

Yup, that is the team we dominated in the 2nd round. If all was the same this year, whether that game was 2nd or 3rd round, result would have been the same.

[dre2142]

Has anyone already posted the video of Sanchez wiping his boogers on Brunells jacket?

[Timebomb07]

Has anyone already posted the video of Sanchez wiping his boogers on Brunells jacket?

I think so haha, that shit was funnny as fuck

[dre2142]

What about mendenhall humping Roth?

[CrashDMB237]

Mo Wilkerson. Get pumped. This dude is a monster. If you don't really follow the draft, do yourself a favor and Youtube his reel or even draft previews which will also highlight some downsides.

[hbktonyb]

Looks like we signed Holmes for 5 years at $10M per, which also pretty much gives us no chance to sign Braylon. He really played well last year but I understand why they wanted Holmes.

Also just read that we are talking to Asomugha but I put no stock in that. He's going to get a huge contract somewhere and they can't pay him Revis money. If that doesn't work, I'm hoping we resign Cromartie.

Without Braylon, think we'll get Moss or even Plax?

[CrashDMB237]

It's not $10 mil per, it's a 5 year $50 million deal with $24 mil guaranteed. At least that's what is being reported right now. If that's truly the deal, talk about fucking highway robbery! That makes the original Holmes trade a steal. I hope we can bring Braylon back, but I doubt we will. We'll settle for a lesser 2nd option. I think as long as Sanchez has Holmes, that guaranteed playmaker, he'll be fine. Braylon was just a luxury at that point. I'd like Cromartie back, but he's going to be looking for big money. As for Aso, I'm not sure if I'm down with that. We'd have no money to spend elsewhere.

[hbktonyb]

But can you imagine how lockdown we'd be in the passing game.

I'm not confident we will be resigning Brad Smith either. Hmmm.

[CrashDMB237]

Brad Smith can walk. He's a total luxury player. And the less Wildcat, the better IMO. The new kickoff rules kind of eliminate his biggest strength.

[hbktonyb]

That's true too. I hate those new rules. Would love another receiver.

So pumped for this year.

[hbktonyb]

OfficialBraylon Braylon Edwards
Will always love jets nation no matter what happens


OfficialBraylon Braylon Edwards
On another note whatever team wants B easy step to the fore front so we can get this thing moving forward. "will work for touchdowns" lol

[coyne]

It's not $10 mil per, it's a 5 year $50 million deal with $24 mil guaranteed. At least that's what is being reported right now. If that's truly the deal, talk about fucking highway robbery! That makes the original Holmes trade a steal. I hope we can bring Braylon back, but I doubt we will. We'll settle for a lesser 2nd option. I think as long as Sanchez has Holmes, that guaranteed playmaker, he'll be fine. Braylon was just a luxury at that point. I'd like Cromartie back, but he's going to be looking for big money. As for Aso, I'm not sure if I'm down with that. We'd have no money to spend elsewhere.

i still think there is an outside shot at landing Aso. He said he wants to play for the Jets so he might take a small pay cut to come here. Sanchez already said he'll take a cut and i heard they plan on asking LT to take a cut as well.

[GreenDirector]

I have been waiting for this thread to come back, bring on Asomough

[hbktonyb]

Looks like Brad Smith went to the Bills. He couldn't wait on Asomough's decision. He was def. a playmaker, especially on kick returns.

[dduncan6er]

Smith will be much less of an impact player with the new kick off rules.

[hbktonyb]

You're right. He also made some big plays in the wildcat but we ran it wayyy too much, so not that disappointed.

[CrashDMB237]

Looks like Brad Smith went to the Bills. He couldn't wait on Asomough's decision. He was def. a playmaker, especially on kick returns.

Brad Smith was a luxury, not a necessity. In my opinion, the less Wildcat the better. That shit ruined us just as much as it saved us in certain instances. Especially when Schotty doesn't know how the fuck to use it. Snapping the ball to Smith and having him run up the middle is not the Wildcat, it's a QB sneak. How many times was the ball ever thrown or pitched out to LT? I won't miss it. Besides, we drafted that dude Kearley who is a Smith clone. Check out some of his tape if you haven't already.

The only place I'd miss him is on KO returns, but the new rules almost make kick returners obsolete.

[hbktonyb]

No Hard Knocks this year. Nobody can follow up Gang Green.

[thebestauntie]

Cannot wait for October 9th. :D

[hbktonyb]

:bounce...

[hbktonyb]

Reading that Nnamdi narrowed it down to the Jets and Cowboys. Thinks he has a better chance winning now with us, but Dallas' contract is for more money...

[DMBstandUP1984]

Reading that Nnamdi narrowed it down to the Jets and Cowboys. Thinks he has a better chance winning now with us, but Dallas' contract is for more money...

ugh please let this happen...no matter where he goes its a win win for me (cowboys or jets)..But I'd love for the Pats to have to play against him and revis twice a season

[rickyh24]

I'm a Cowboys/Pats fan so I really hope he goes to Dallas. 2 Teams!@! ftw.

[dmbmuskie]

Do we have another guy rooting for 2 teams?

[rickyh24]

Justin is a Jets/Cowboys fan. Oh and a Red Sox fan. It's a beautiful thing.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Do we have another guy rooting for 2 teams?

Yep Colts/Cowboys and whatever team is playing against the Patriots :devil

[DMBstandUP1984]

Justin is a Jets/Cowboys fan. Oh and a Red Sox fan. It's a beautiful thing.

I like the Bruins also :)

[hbktonyb]

I don't think it is going to happen because players always take the money, but it would be sweet to have him and Revis.

[dduncan6er]

How is it even enjoyable to root for 2 teams? I'd think it makes it a lot less special when one of those teams win.

[rickyh24]

I like the Bruins also :)

2 out of 4 ain't bad.

[hbktonyb]

I could understand rooting for a team playing against your team's rival, but otherwise wouldn't be able to actively root for 2 teams.

[dduncan6er]

I could understand rooting for a team playing against your team's rival, but otherwise wouldn't be able to actively root for 2 teams.
Yes, I understand this. But like you said actively rooting for 2 teams just seems pretty lame.

[hbktonyb]

I can't wait for the disappointment this year!

Might as well get it out of the way now.

I'M DONE!

[thebestauntie]

I can't wait for the disappointment this year!

Might as well get it out of the way now.

I'M DONE!
Oh my God, I so can't wait for the season to start!! :multi :lol

[hbktonyb]

I could see it now. We finally win a division! Bye, week 1. Home playoff game week 2, beat Pats! AFC championship...beat Pitt!

So excited, finally a Superbowl!

Lose to the Panthers in the SuperBowl.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Yes, I understand this. But like you said actively rooting for 2 teams just seems pretty lame.

my only real two favorite football teams are the Colts and Cowboys..works out since once is AFC and one is NFC..

[crashintonickdm]

I'm a Cowboys/Pats fan so I really hope he goes to Dallas. 2 Teams!@! ftw.

youre praying he goes to dallas.

[dduncan6er]

my only real two favorite football teams are the Colts and Cowboys..works out since once is AFC and one is NFC..
To each his own but I'd never want to root for 2 different teams. It'd kind of cheapen things for me when one of them won the super bowl.

[DMBstandUP1984]

To each his own but I'd never want to root for 2 different teams. It'd kind of cheapen things for me when one of them won the super bowl.

for instance i was pulling for the cowboys in the cowboys/colts game last season..holding on to whatever hope they had for a playoff spot (which they never ended up with)

my buddy texted me saying the Jets signed him, is that not true?

[DMBstandUP1984]

Jets passer Mark Sanchez said he was willing to restructure his contract to help the Jets re-sign some of their big-name free agents.

class act

[rickyh24]

youre praying he goes to dallas.

Not really. I would rather him go there of course.

[pathetic]

Jets passer Mark Sanchez said he was willing to restructure his contract to help the Jets re-sign some of their big-name free agents.

class act

oh like brady did to bring moss in 4 years ago?

[rickyh24]

Has Manning ever done that??


please see spoiler in my sig for answer.

[DMBstandUP1984]

oh like brady did to bring moss in 4 years ago?

yeaa hopefully the free agents Sanchez does it for brings them a super bowl though

[pathetic]

yeaa hopefully the free agents Sanchez does it for brings them a super bowl though

i wouldnt mind seeing it lead to another AFC championship loss

[DMBstandUP1984]

Has Manning ever done that??


please see spoiler in my sig for answer.

I'm not sure Manning ever had too........he had Wayne, Harrison, Clark and a pretty decent defense without it.

[rickyh24]

yeaa hopefully the free agents Sanchez does it for brings them a super bowl though

Seems weird to see a Colts/Cowboy's fan say something like this.

[DMBstandUP1984]

i wouldnt mind seeing it lead to another AFC championship loss

or just waste a 16-0 season

[dduncan6er]

:lol Colts are fucked.

[hbktonyb]

On to plan B. Cromartie...

[rickyh24]

First Lebron, Then Cliff Lee and now this. Rough.

[hbktonyb]

^:lol

Def. expected Lee and held out hope for Lebron. This would have been a shock and bonus. I mean who doesn't take the money besides dumb Lee.

[rickyh24]

Do we have #'s on what the Eagles gave him yet?

[hbktonyb]

Supposedly 5 years, $60 million. Jets couldn't match that, especially when they are paying Revis $11.5 (even though Revis' contract will be reworked after he has another lock down season).

[rickyh24]

wowzer.....

[kingchrisII]

Well Asomugha and the Jets will now never win rings. :lol/:lorraine

[CrashDMB237]

I said this in the NFL thread but this is the first big football blunder of Rex's tenure. He was so wrapped up in getting yet another CB that he turned guys like Smith, Cro and Edwards away. Now Cro is our best option and we have to beg him to come back, Edwards looks to have signed with another team and is already talking shit, and Smith DID sign with another team. We're going to walk into next season with either Cotchery, Moss or Stonehands James Jones as our 2nd WR. We've downgraded as far as I'm concerned.

[hbktonyb]

You're right Steve.

[rickyh24]

Season over already?

[hbktonyb]

When is a Jet season NOT over before it starts...not in my lifetime.

[rickyh24]

When is a Jet season NOT over before it starts...not in my lifetime.

I have no rebuttal.

[hbktonyb]

Time for my 3rd 10th beer.

[CrashDMB237]

Season over already?

I know it's a joke, but it may as well be. The team that we had to fight to beat in the divisional round got better, we got worse. That's not a good formula. Anything less than a title this year after two years of the AFCCG is a failure in my eyes. At this rate, we'll be fighting for a wild card spot.

[hbktonyb]

I wouldn't go that far. Let's see how it plays out. Sanchez will be better and Rex still gets it done.

[CrashDMB237]

I wouldn't go that far. Let's see how it plays out. Sanchez will be better and Rex still gets it done.

You lose Braylon and who is you've downgraded because there are no better receivers available. We struggled to more the ball WITH Braylon. And btw, there are rumors Braylon got a contract offer from the Dolphins. That would just top this whole shitty offseason off perfectly wouldn't it?

[hbktonyb]

Lol that would suck. But I figured we were losing Braylon anyway, especially since Holmes was the top target. We weren't going to give 2 receivers big money. I mean Asomugha was a pipe dream. I know Rex has unbelievable recruiting skills...he must put them to work to resign Cro. With this defensive scheme we need another corner like him.

If we fail to sign Cro and end up with a 2nd rate guy like Carr that would suck. Cotchery is always a good 3, I'd take a Moss as #2. Gotta get shit done.

[CrashDMB237]

Signing Cro or Nate Clements and then hoping for Moss or Plax are pretty much our best bets right now unless something comes along via trade. I still can't believe a dude who was so diligent for YEARS in Tannenbaum let this happen.

[hbktonyb]

That corner would have been worth it.

Now he gets to be worthless in Philly.

[rickyh24]

Please get Moss.

[hbktonyb]

Moss > Ocho

[CrashDMB237]

Moss > Ocho

I thought this last year when Moss was still a Pat. I wouldn't be unhappy with Moss, but it's a downgrade from Braylon. Dunno if you were at that Thanksgiving game against the Bengals, but seeing Ocho in person was very telling. He is nowhere near the same guy he was. He wasn't even giving up on plays, he was just getting absolutely worked. Then again, every time we play him we shut him the fuck up.

[hbktonyb]

I missed the Thanksgiving game. A Brady combo with anyone scares me..however, we have an Island.

[rickyh24]

Moss > Ocho

:lol:lol:lol

[CrashDMB237]

:lol:lol:lol

God forbid anyone said this in July of last year, amirite?

[rickyh24]

All Moss was is an over the top threat. Ocho actually runs route and gives it his all every play. I can't wait to see what happens when he has Welker and Branch along side him with Brady throwing him the ball. No to mention Grownk and Hernandez.

[CrashDMB237]

Well now it's official, Braylon won't be back. He was a HUGE part of the team last year in way more than catching balls and making big plays... he was one hell of a run blocker. There's no one left that can even touch what he brought us. I'd say fuck Randy Moss, go for Malcolm Floyd. He's younger he's a big target, he can catch the deep ball. I still can't believe we fucked this up so badly.

[hbktonyb]

Braylon was a huge part of the team, but no way we were paying him after giving Holmes that kind of money. Losing Braylon didn't have much to do with Asomugha.

Cro, on the other hand...

[hbktonyb]

So far, I love plan B. Plax!@!

[Doors Allan Coe]

Well, Jets fans must be feeling stressed.

[CrashDMB237]

Well, Jets fans must be feeling stressed.

Why? This relieves stress if anything. Regardless of how long he's been removed from the game, going into the season with Plax as your #2 with a young QB who needs a big red zone target beats the piss out of James Jones, Cotchery or Randy Moss. The best part is, the Jets were looking to sign a 2nd WR for no more than $3 mil to save room for a cornerback and some vet help. So we didn't even have to go out of our way to get our guy.

I loved Braylon, still do, always will... but he was going to command more than half of what we gave Plax which would put us in cap hell for years.

[Doors Allan Coe]

Why? This relieves stress if anything. Regardless of how long he's been removed from the game, going into the season with Plax as your #2 with a young QB who needs a big red zone target beats the piss out of James Jones, Cotchery or Randy Moss. The best part is, the Jets were looking to sign a 2nd WR for no more than $3 mil to save room for a cornerback and some vet help. So we didn't even have to go out of our way to get our guy.

I loved Braylon, still do, always will... but he was going to command more than half of what we gave Plax which would put us in cap hell for years.

I figured that Plax is clearly a downgrade over Braylon. In fact we don't know if Plax can even play still.

Second I figured the uncertainty at CB would leave you uneasy. Whoever is opposite Revis is going to be targeted. So they better be pretty good of they are going to get shredded all season.

Third I haven't really read much more Jets news. I know they didn't have a huge draft. I've read more about players leaving than players coming.

I personally am not convinced Sanchez can carry a team on his shoulders. Maybe I'm wrong it you guys lost a couple of productive starters and roleplayers, but only added a WR fresh off 2 years in jail. I'm from outside New York and I secretly root for the Jets often. But, even my super secret Jet fans inside isn't totally sure going after Nnamdi was the right move...

[CrashDMB237]

Plax is a downgrade but has the potential to be an upgrade in the redzone where we struggled big time. Plax will be able to jump and come down with a ball, that I'm confident of. We'll take a hit in the run blocking dept but we're also talking with Todd Heap today. It was either this, Braylon for four years at around 8 per or James Jones. I'm happier with this. I'll miss Braylon but those money demands are a little nuts.

Cro is most likely coming back although the Raiders want him so you never know how that could end up. Is he great? No. But we were the top ranked D with lito Sheppard and the third ranked D with him. There aren't too many other viable options.

We drafted two monsters on the DL, one of which I think is going to pan out real well, Muhammed Wilkerson. Again, there weren't too many other options other than Cullen Jenkins.

The Sanchez stuff is still TBD. All I know is he plays well enough to get us where we've gotten but that shit isn't going to fly for a third year in a row. Our chanches at a title rest solely on his development IMO.

[rickyh24]

Plax is perfect for this team.

[CrashDMB237]

Plax is perfect for this team.

You're right. Tall red zone threat :thumbsup

[rickyh24]

Obnoxious delinquent.

[hbktonyb]

Another obnoxious delinquent that will be a reformed Jet and play Rex style football.

[hbktonyb]

#EA Burress on playing with Holmes: “It’s going to be special. We’re both excited because we both know we can go out and dominate guys."

[CrashDMB237]

Well Plax sure has adopted the Jet mentality already. Let's relax a bit guy, you haven't played in two years. I do think he'll return close to form though at some point because although it was two years off, it was two years less wear and tear on his body replaced with nothing but working out in prison.

I didn't know about Woody and Tanny going to visit him in prison in 09. That was a pretty sure way to lock him up after he got out of the clink. I'm excited. Cautiously optomistic, but excited. Now let's overpay Cro and get the season started!

[hbktonyb]

"They say Cro is back, Cro is back all #GangGreen fans say is Cro...," Cromartie tweeted. "I'm on my FLT headed home glad 2 b a JET...let's go win a Superbowl."

Cromartie and Plax? Don't mind if I do!

J-E-T-S JETSJETSJETS

[hbktonyb]

A_Cromartie31 Antonio Cromartie
Ok guys taking off c u guys at Florham Park...God Bless u all...Jet sailing 2 be a JET...goodnight 2 some and good morning to others I'm out

[CrashDMB237]

I'm not the biggest fan of Cro, but out of every option we had, he gave us the best chance of winning. It's better than having Kyle Wilson start, it's better than having a "2nd CB by committee" and it's a shitload better than signing Philip freakin Buchanon who we worked out yesterday.

[hbktonyb]

I like Cro. He is def. one of the better corners in the league. No where near the level of Revis but he makes our defense better. Still will struggle with the pass rush but our team is looking very good heading into the season.

[CrashDMB237]

Wtf, we're dangling Cotch around in trades to clear cap?? Fuck THAT! Cotch has been great out of the slot. He's our most reliable set of hands.

[hbktonyb]

Really? That sucks.

Unless it has something to do with trading for Osi :lol

[CrashDMB237]

http://tinyurl.com/3v4swap

Boiyoiyoiyoing.

[hbktonyb]

I have the shakes thinking about getting into that parking lot for the first tailgate of the season :lol

[Richard Belding]

For you Jet fans:

http://www.youtube.com/user/barballo2323#p/u/14/Qcr4_JDhEm0

A bunch of your Jets have been working out at my work the last few months and here's a little video of a couple of the guys. Vlad was here last year before the combine and let me tell you, he is in ridiculous shape this year. He is an absolute monster right now. Sanchez and Keller and a few other guys have been coming in lately.

Here's a longer video of our whole program with some clips of those guys in there:

http://www.youtube.com/user/barballo2323#p/u/5/FbQH8aCXVqs

[pathetic]

lol @ Rex for asking all other NFL teams to help take down the pats

[FunkyTeaParty]

http://tinyurl.com/3v4swap

Boiyoiyoiyoing.

Mad blunts yo

[pathetic]

Mad blunts yo

:thumbsup:thumbsup

[FunkyTeaParty]

I have the shakes thinking about getting into that parking lot for the first tailgate of the season :lol

I'll be there.

In my Dez Bryant jersey.

[rickyh24]

:lol That picture is hilarious.

[hbktonyb]

I'll be there.

In my Dez Bryant jersey.

:lol Yessss

Guessing Steve will be there too. Ants meet up in the works.

[CrashDMB237]

:lol Yessss

Guessing Steve will be there too. Ants meet up in the works.

I'll be there. Girlfriend and her dad are diehard Cowboys fans. I have no idea how I'm going to work this one out.

[hbktonyb]

:lol

See you guys there

[coyne]

For you Jet fans:

http://www.youtube.com/user/barballo2323#p/u/14/Qcr4_JDhEm0

A bunch of your Jets have been working out at my work the last few months and here's a little video of a couple of the guys. Vlad was here last year before the combine and let me tell you, he is in ridiculous shape this year. He is an absolute monster right now. Sanchez and Keller and a few other guys have been coming in lately.

Here's a longer video of our whole program with some clips of those guys in there:

http://www.youtube.com/user/barballo2323#p/u/5/FbQH8aCXVqs

cool vids, poor music choice on top one imo :shrug

[hbktonyb]

LisaZimmerman Derrick Mason will take physical w/Jets on Thursday per @CBSSportsNFLTEN & @MattRybaltowski. If he passes, expect Jets to sign him. 8/3/11 8:20 PM


So this is why Jericho will be gone. :/

[CrashDMB237]

Stupid if we're bringing him in to replace Cotch. He's good for depth but he's not good enough to be trading Cotch.

[hbktonyb]

I love Cotch too. Such a professional, great spots on Joe and Evan's show every week.

[CrashDMB237]

I mean, I get it. I just don't like replacing a 29 year old with a 37 year old. Cotch is coming off major surgery and is very much a question mark to even start the season on time I believe. Mason brings the same production, real good hands and will save us $4 mil next season. I just don't want to see J-Co go. He's a true Jet.

[hbktonyb]

^exactly my feelings.

[hbktonyb]

Steve, what's going on with Jim Leonhard? I haven't heard much about him so far this year.

[CrashDMB237]

He's in camp participating in one on one drills. He's cleared to play, feels no pain after 4 straight days of camp but the team is being cautious. Don't blame him when your safeties after him are Eric Smith, Brodney Pool and Emmanuel Cook :lol

[hbktonyb]

He's in camp participating in one on one drills. He's cleared to play, feels no pain after 4 straight days of camp but the team is being cautious. Don't blame him when your safeties after him are Eric Smith, Brodney Pool and Emmanuel Cook :lol

:lol true, that's why I was wondering. It was a blow to lose him last year.

[hbktonyb]

Holy shit, so Braylon ends up signing with the 9ers for 1 year, $3.5M...we could have easily signed him for that!

And don't even get me started with Jericho. Released, really? Just cut?? Seriously what is going on??

Earlier in the week it started with rumors that the Jets were looking for a trading partner for Jerricho. Then word came out yesterday that the Jets were bringing in former Raven Derrick Mason for a physical. Today was a circus around the facility as Jerricho approached the reporters and said he was being released. There were reporters tweeting pictures of Rex, Mr. T and Woody walking around the facility holding meetings, talking on cells and just acting strange.

The release came today before the start of the 4pm practice and afterwards Rex and players were addressing the media. More news started to come out on twitter.
BrianCoz I spoke with Jerricho’s wife. She said her husband does not want to get into a back and forth with the #Jets. 8/4/11 7:23 PM

[FunkyTeaParty]

Cotchery has to be going to join his boy Rivers in San Diego.

[hbktonyb]

I'm guessing it has to do with a combo of things. Maybe they asked him to take a pay cut and/or he didn't want to be 4th behind Mason...

[coyne]

Lets go!!!

[hbktonyb]

The misery begins. But let's be optimistic.

13-3
AFC East title
SuperBowl

Yayyy for preseason!

[hbktonyb]

Like the way the offense looks so far. Mason is playing well.

[hbktonyb]

Typical Schotty 3rd and 8 call. I'm already frustrated.

[rickyh24]

Like the way the offense looks so far.

It was one hell of a FG.

[CrashDMB237]

I really like Holmes and Mason in the slot with that three step drop. Holmes can beat his man and Mason has good hands. That's going to be key.

In other news, who is the dude that came here saying Vlad Ducasse trained with him over the summer and he looked great? Guy fucking SUCKS.

[CrashDMB237]

HAHAHA Rex flipping the fuck out in a preseason game!

[Timebomb07]

Anyone know how gaurd, vlad ducasse looked?

[thebestauntie]

Typical Schotty 3rd and 8 call. I'm already frustrated.
This is going to be a fun year. :lol

[hbktonyb]

OMG catch the fuckin ball.

[hbktonyb]

What in the world was that :lol

[justink]

Trying to determine if my eyes just lied to me. Did McElroy really just run for a first down and then fire the ball to a receiver in the end zone? WTF?! :lol

[Richard Belding]

I really like Holmes and Mason in the slot with that three step drop. Holmes can beat his man and Mason has good hands. That's going to be key.

In other news, who is the dude that came here saying Vlad Ducasse trained with him over the summer and he looked great? Guy fucking SUCKS.

That would be me. Haven't seen him do football stuff in a while but he was in great shape compared to last year is what I said. Disappointing to see his performance tonight.

[CrashDMB237]

Trying to determine if my eyes just lied to me. Did McElroy really just run for a first down and then fire the ball to a receiver in the end zone? WTF?! :lol

Easily the highlight of the night :lol

That would be me. Haven't seen him do football stuff in a while but he was in great shape compared to last year is what I said. Disappointing to see his performance tonight.

Oh, I thought for some reason you were doing football workouts with him or something. I know a bunch of players trained at a place in NJ and I thought you may have been one of the guys they trained with. Either way, he's fucking terrible. He managed to get worse. He gave up two sacks and is the reason Rob Turner got hurt. We need Turner so that Ducasse doesn't have to play.

[CrashDMB237]

Few things:

-As I said before, I really like Holmes and Mason in the slot staying close to home early on. That three step drop worked perfectly for Sanchez. A lot of quick 4-6 yard gains on first down makes things a lot easier. Holmes creates, Mason is just a set of good hands.

-Jeremy Kerley... damn that dude has some burners! He reminds me a lot of Holmes but obviously not as good of a receiver. I don't mind him as our fourth receiver though.

-Kendrick Ellis was a beast. I was a little skeptical after drafting a dude who missed a whole season with legal problems, but he looks like he hasn't missed a beat in terms of being in football shape. He's a physical monster and was all over the field.

-Ducasse sucks shit and if Rob Turner is out, that means Vlad is up next on the depth chart. We can't go into a season with him being anywhere near the field. Think Rex can convince Damien Woody to come out of retirement??

It was just fun as hell watching football again, no matter how terrible it was after the first quarter.

[Richard Belding]

Easily the highlight of the night :lol



Oh, I thought for some reason you were doing football workouts with him or something. I know a bunch of players trained at a place in NJ and I thought you may have been one of the guys they trained with. Either way, he's fucking terrible. He managed to get worse. He gave up two sacks and is the reason Rob Turner got hurt. We need Turner so that Ducasse doesn't have to play.

Yeah they all trained at the facility I work at. TEST Sports Clubs is the name of it. I'm actually a trainer there but am not high up enough to be working specifically with those guys so I would just see them here and there. They did their lifting and some positional stuff there and then sometimes went to high schools to do workouts outside but I was never at them. It was Vlad, Bart, Kris Jenkins before he retired, Cotch, Westerman, Kenrick Ellis, Ropati, Sanchez, Scotty McKnight, Turner, Woody, Keller for a few days, and Barry Cofield. All super nice guys.

[hbktonyb]

Our stadium is going to be named "MetLife Stadium"...

Yuck.

[hbktonyb]

Can't WAIT. Will be in the lot at 2:30 p.m. :lol

[41ravens]

well, the opportunity to talk shit only happens every 4 years, but i don't really have anything to say. hopefully it's a good game.

[hbktonyb]

I think it will be a pretty good game. A lot of pressure on the Jets. They are going to do a nice 9/11 ceremony.

[41ravens]

yeah, i definitely think there's some added pressure on the jets to get the win. but it's a first game, so everyone is going to be jittery for the first few series. once everyone calms down and they just start playing football, i think it'll be a really good game.

[coyne]

Our stadium is going to be named "MetLife Stadium"...

Yuck.

little late to the party here but my friend told me that JetBlue was in the mix for naming rights... JetBlue Stadium would have fit well for both jet and giant fans imo

[CrashDMB237]

Contain Ware, contain Felix, win the game. This early on, I think it's just taking care of individuals. I think we have more individuals for them to worry about than they do for us to worry about. Ware on the edge and Felix worry me the most, but I have a feeling Witten will hurt us over the middle. I just like the fact that we have Holmes, Mason and Burress going up against a weak secondary. It won't be a cakewalk either way, I think it's a good matchup.

[hbktonyb]

Let's all be safe at the game today. I'll be in the lot at 3:30.

[rickyh24]

Crololololooolmartie

[crashintonickdm]

cowboys walked down the field

[dduncan6er]

Nice blocking.

[jrod41]

Sanchez meet Ware lol

[hbktonyb]

I have no voice. At all...

Oyyy

[GreenDirector]

I just got back from the game, easily one of the best wins I have ever seen.

[hbktonyb]

Why must every game be a heart attack...

[CrashDMB237]

Got back at 3, just got up for work. It's going to be a looong day. But I'm not complaining.

Well, a win is a win, but we got some shit to work on. The good news is we won't be facing a Ryan defense for the rest of the year. You really don't understand the way the Ryan defenses work until you play against it. They do that amoeba shit and you have no clue who is blitzing from where. But either way, yea, O-line needs to step it up. That was kind of expected though given short camp and Brandon Moore missing half of it.

Hey, 1-0 is fine with me no matter how we get there.

[jrod41]

I just got back from the game, easily one of the best wins I have ever seen.

Easily one of the worst losses I have ever seen

[pathetic]

a win is a win, even if it's handed to you. 1-0!!!!1!

[kingchrisII]

1-0 :)

Lol @Chad Ochocinco doing nothing in his Pats debut.

[dduncan6er]

Yea I know the patriots offense really struggled without Ochocinco having a huge game. :lol

[kingchrisII]

Yea I know the patriots offense really struggled without Ochocinco having a huge game. :lol

Yea I know they didn't need him... But all my Pats fans friends jizzed in their pants about the addition of Ocho Cinco... I see nothing jizz worthy... to each their own though. ;)

[rickyh24]

Yea I know they didn't need him... But all my Pats fans friends jizzed in their pants about the addition of Ocho Cinco... I see nothing jizz worthy... to each their own though. ;)

It's been one game. Typical Jets fan stupidity.

[hbktonyb]

I hope Chad has 100+ yards next game if it means Brady could kinda get slightly lower than 500 :lol

[CrashDMB237]

OMG LUCKY WIN HANDED TO US!@#$!!!

Seriously though, domination by the defense. This is what I've been wanting to see. Wilkerson had his coming out party yesterday getting to the QB and stopping the run. He's already produced more than Gholston and it only took him 4 and a half quarters :lol

I still don't fucking understand Schottenheimer. Sanchez isn't exactly lighting it up out there... but give the kid a chance at having some success. Other than Keller, what does Schotty give him? We sign a monster red zone target and he isn't show the ball until the third quarter two games in a row (granted he was doubled ALL day, hence Keller's field day). We have one of the fastest playmaking WRs in the league and he gets sent into traffic. We have one of the best pass-catching RBs in the history of the game and we wait until 3rd and 7 to throw him the ball and force him to make a play for extra yardage. Would throwing a screen pass kill us?

We could be so much better (because Sanchez would be better) if Schottenheimer had any clue whatsoever on how to move the ball.

[kingchrisII]

It's been one game. Typical Jets fan stupidity.

now two..

[rickyh24]

now two..

Ya they looked unstoppable. Sanchez is really playing amazing. What did he have almost 200 yards passing? We will see what happens when this team plays a real team.

[CrashDMB237]

Typical Pats fan, bring up something irrelevant to the convo. No one mentioned Sanchez, no one said he's playing amazing. OMG COMPLEX OFFENSE, TAKES MONTHS.

[rickyh24]

Sanchez looked like shit playing against the one of the worst teams in the league. Yeah that's really irrelevant. Typical response though :thumbsup

[CrashDMB237]

Looked like shit against one of the worst teams in the league? Two throws looked like shit. He was making some great throws to Keller all day long, threading needles through triple teams. The o-line was giving him nothing. He completed what, 70% of his passes? He threw two bad ones and all of a sudden he looks like shit. He was moving out of the pocket, taking off when he needed to, checking down when he needed to. He didn't break any records, but I don't think he looked like shit.

[CrashDMB237]

But on to things that actually matter... Mangold out a minimum 2-3 weeks. AKA, losses to Oakland, Baltimore and New England.

[rickyh24]

The excuse train is already rolling. Niiiiiice.

Pats lost their center week 1 too.

[CrashDMB237]

The excuse train is already rolling. Niiiiiice.

Pats lost their center week 1 too.

The Pats center wasn't the best in the league on an O-line that already lost a starter in the preseason.

[hbktonyb]

That's a tough blow. Next 3 weeks are going to be very tough.

[pathetic]

The Pats center wasn't the best in the league on an O-line that already lost a starter in the preseason.

koppen had to protect a QB that's much more valuable than Sanchez. now the pats have connelly who's never played center. that shows you how tough the position is. please dont use mangold as an excuse to why this team will lose to baltimore and NY :lol

[CrashDMB237]

koppen had to protect a QB that's much more valuable than Sanchez. now the pats have connelly who's never played center. that shows you how tough the position is. please dont use mangold as an excuse to why this team will lose to baltimore and NY :lol

We're so fucked without Mangold that we're going to lose to OURSELVES!

[pathetic]

We're so fucked without Mangold that we're going to lose to OURSELVES!

typed NE on my iphone. damn autocorrect...making the jets look worse than they are ;)

[kingchrisII]

I am so thankful that the Jets winning percentage against the Pats since Rex Ryan became coach of the Jets is .600 ... And we have an equal number of Super Bowl wins in that time frame... :lol

[pathetic]

I am so thankful that the Jets winning percentage against the Pats since Rex Ryan became coach of the Jets is .600 ... And we have an equal number of Super Bowl wins in that time frame... :lol

you're happy about 0 superbowl wins. nice to see that jet's fans strive to lose the AFC championship every year as long as it means they beat the pats

[CrashDMB237]

you're happy about 0 superbowl wins. nice to see that jet's fans strive to lose the AFC championship every year as long as it means they beat the pats

I don't really see anyone gloating about no rings. All I saw was a comparison. Could just be me though. I could just as easily say "nice to see Pats fans strive for the divisional round because they have three rings from ten years ago to rest on."

[kingchrisII]

you're happy about 0 superbowl wins. nice to see that jet's fans strive to lose the AFC championship every year as long as it means they beat the pats

Or just strive to bring Pats fans back to earth... you're team is inferior to the Jets (head to head) more often than not since the Rex Ryan era began.

[pathetic]

:thumbsup ok man.. got an idea to bring brady back down to earth?

[kingchrisII]

:thumbsup ok man.. got an idea to bring brady back down to earth?

Yea, playing a defense that's actually good..

[pathetic]

Yea, playing a defense that's actually good..

there's been a lot of good/bad/mediocre defenses in the nfl over the years and few qb's have put up the stats that brady has in the first two games.

maybe he wont throw 500+ yards against the jets, but he's gonna make rex look silly.

[kingchrisII]

there's been a lot of good/bad/mediocre defenses in the nfl over the years and few qb's have put up the stats that brady has in the first two games.

maybe he wont throw 500+ yards against the jets, but he's gonna make rex look silly.

Cam Newton put up the stats that Brady did... stats arent everything.

[CrashDMB237]

99 of his yards from the first game came on one routine throw, so that stat is pretty inflated. Still an impressive game nonetheless, no matter how bad the Dolphins defense is. The Chargers game was just as impressive but neither defense touches what the Jets have done to Brady the past two seasons. I'm not saying Brady won't have good games, but I think it's a little premature to say he's going to make Rex look silly, especially because he only has but once.

[pathetic]

Cam Newton put up the stats that Brady did... stats arent everything.

oh he did? i was unaware that brady was on pace for 32 int's like newton

[pathetic]

99 of his yards from the first game came on one routine throw, so that stat is pretty inflated. Still an impressive game nonetheless, no matter how bad the Dolphins defense is. The Chargers game was just as impressive but neither defense touches what the Jets have done to Brady the past two seasons. I'm not saying Brady won't have good games, but I think it's a little premature to say he's going to make Rex look silly, especially because he only has but once.

no it's not... ok, so he threw 416 instead of 517 if you take away that one play, but brady is #1 in yards per attempt in passing, i dont know how anyone could discount what he's doing

[CrashDMB237]

no it's not... ok, so he threw 416 instead of 517 if you take away that one play, but brady is #1 in yards per attempt in passing, i dont know how anyone could discount what he's doing

I don't think I discounted him one bit. I said both of his games have been impressive but he's also done it against two very bad secondaries. As a Jets HC, Rex has been able to contain Brady pretty well, so I don't know why two games of Brady doing what he's done overrules anything that happened in the past.

[kingchrisII]

no it's not... ok, so he threw 416 instead of 517 if you take away that one play, but brady is #1 in yards per attempt in passing, i dont know how anyone could discount what he's doing

I don't think anyone is discounting what he is doing.. he's obviously having a great year.. He had a great year in '07 too...

However, he doesn't have the team around him that he did in years such as: '01, '03, and '04.... catch my drift?

[hbktonyb]

there's been a lot of good/bad/mediocre defenses in the nfl over the years and few qb's have put up the stats that brady has in the first two games.

maybe he wont throw 500+ yards against the jets, but he's gonna make rex look silly.

Just like the playoffs last year.

[rickyh24]

However, he doesn't have the team around him that he did in years such as: '01, '03, and '04.... catch my drift?

:lol right....we already know this. Again its been 2 games.

[rickyh24]

Cam Newton put up the stats that Brady did... stats arent everything.

:lol:lol:lol good god

[rickyh24]

KingChris no offense but I love to give Anthony and Steve shit football wise but you say some really weird shit. Literally every post of yours I just read on this last page is laughable. Talking about Brady not playing a defense??? They just beat a team three times as good as the team the Jets just beat.

[pathetic]

The chargers had the best offense and defense in football last season. Brady made it look like he was playing another confused defense.

[rickyh24]

The chargers had the best offense and defense in football last season. Brady made it look like he was playing another confused defense.

It's ok. He is just happy the jets have a 3-2 record against the pats the past two years.

[kingchrisII]

The chargers had the best offense and defense in football last season. Brady made it look like he was playing another confused defense.

Fair enough. Can't say I really recalled San Diego being a great defense last year, but I looked it up... you are correct. Valid point.

I just like to talk some smack... Mr. Belichick and I have that in commmon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0NcdnMC7NU&feature=related

[pathetic]

Fair enough. Can't say I really recalled San Diego being a great defense last year, but I looked it up... you are correct. Valid point.

I just like to talk some smack... Mr. Belichick and I have that in commmon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0NcdnMC7NU&feature=related

i cant watch youtube at work, is that him and Mason going back and forth? :lol that was funny

[pathetic]

brady won his second straight offense player of the week... atleast he's got something over cam newton

[CrashDMB237]

OMG Cromartie defensive player of the week! This is for sure the determining factor that the Pats have yet to face a defense like the Jets.

[hbktonyb]

So Cro > Brady?

Yesssss

[salrx95]

So Cro > Brady?

Yesssss

at making babies, he is.

[kingchrisII]

i cant watch youtube at work, is that him and Mason going back and forth? :lol that was funny

It is. :lol

[pathetic]

It is. :lol

"shut the fuck up mason, check out the scoreboard" :lol i love it

[kingchrisII]

"shut the fuck up mason, check out the scoreboard" :lol i love it

Yea that was pretty bad ass not gonna lie... :lol

[hbktonyb]

Very worried about Sunday with no Mangold. If I wasn't a Jet fan I'd take Oakland with the points.

[CrashDMB237]

I would take Oakland outright. I hate this matchup for us. McFadden is our defense's worst nightmare. Fast, powerful back who can catch and run. I can smell 200 yards total for him with one TD rushing and one through the air.

[rickyh24]

Whats the spread?

[hbktonyb]

Oakland is getting 3.5.

Plus, teams traveling from east to west or vice versa tend to struggle.

AKA we'll be 2-3 after 5 games. FML.

[rickyh24]

It's ok the Pats are facing a power house this week too. You should keep pace.

[CrashDMB237]

Oakland is getting 3.5.

Plus, teams traveling from east to west or vice versa tend to struggle.

AKA we'll be 2-3 after 5 games. FML.

3-2 without Mangold would be a victory for me in these next three games. I gotta laugh at the one Pats fan who keeps saying "LOL our center went down and we're fine don't use Mangold as an excuse". You really don't think missing the best center in the league and replacing him with someone who has played 1 career game makes a difference? On an o-line already missing a starter?

[pathetic]

3-2 without Mangold would be a victory for me in these next three games. I gotta laugh at the one Pats fan who keeps saying "LOL our center went down and we're fine don't use Mangold as an excuse". You really don't think missing the best center in the league and replacing him with someone who has played 1 career game makes a difference? On an o-line already missing a starter?

:lol

even without koppen (out for the season), whos just as good as mangold, i expect the pats to win or compete just as hard in every game..

[dduncan6er]

:lol

even without koppen (out for the season), whos just as good as mangold, i expect the pats to win or compete just as hard in every game..
Koppen is solid, but he's not Mangold. Regardless, missing your center shouldn't be an excuse if you lose to a team like the Raiders.

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Koppen is solid, but he's not Mangold. Regardless, missing your center shouldn't be an excuse if you lose to a team like the Raiders.

well, mangold protects a QB with a lot less value than the one Koppen protects. plus the position isn't that tough and connelly proved that he could just step right in and not miss a beat. i fully expect whoever steps in for the jets to do a good job. it's not like the center is picking up the opposing team's best pass rusher

[dduncan6er]

well, mangold protects a QB with a lot less value than the one Koppen protects. plus the position isn't that tough and connelly proved that he could just step right in and not miss a beat. i fully expect whoever steps in for the jets to do a good job. it's not like the center is picking up the opposing team's best pass rusher
Mangold is probably the best run blocking center in the league which is really valuable for a team like the Jets.

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Mangold is probably the best run blocking center in the league which is really valuable for a team like the Jets.

touche' :thumbsup

[CrashDMB237]

:lol

even without koppen (out for the season), whos just as good as mangold, i expect the pats to win or compete just as hard in every game..

It's a whole lot more complex than replacing a guy on the line. Two different teams who do two different things with two different caliber players replacing the starter. As someone else pointed out, Mangold is probably the best run-blocking center in the league and our dumbfuck O-coordinator has no clue how to run the ball effectively unless there is a hole in between the tackles to run through.

No, the best pass rusher isn't going to come up the middle, but a linebacker or safety can on a delayed blitz and if the NT can contain the center it makes it a whole lot easier. And I think Ngata and Wilfork will be able to contain Colin god damn Baxter, a first year player, first time starter a little better than Nick Mangold.

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It's a whole lot more complex than replacing a guy on the line. Two different teams who do two different things with two different caliber players replacing the starter. As someone else pointed out, Mangold is probably the best run-blocking center in the league and our dumbfuck O-coordinator has no clue how to run the ball effectively unless there is a hole in between the tackles to run through.

No, the best pass rusher isn't going to come up the middle, but a linebacker or safety can on a delayed blitz and if the NT can contain the center it makes it a whole lot easier. And I think Ngata and Wilfork will be able to contain Bobby god damn Felix, a first year player, first time starter a little better than Nick Mangold.

he's so bad

[CrashDMB237]

he's so bad

He sure is. Hey, I know, let's draft a kid and make him our franchise QB then completely change up the style of play he was successful with at USC! I guarantee Sanchez would be a whole lot better of a QB if Schotty gave him a chance to succeed. Having Plax, Holmes, Mason and Keller is nice... if you know how to get them the ball. Schotty has no clue how to do that.

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i think he's scared to let sanchez try and run an offense. i'm not so sure i blame him though...i mean leinart ran the same style offense at USC and was pretty damn good at it. although, he was pretty much playing with a pro-style team that also got paid like it :lol

[CrashDMB237]

i think he's scared to let sanchez try and run an offense. i'm not so sure i blame him though...i mean leinart ran the same style offense at USC and was pretty damn good at it. although, he was pretty much playing with a pro-style team that also got paid like it :lol

I really don't think he's scared, I think he's got a style and he's sticking to it. I think it's being stubborn combined with really being not that good at his job. When Sanchez opens it up we play our best. I'm always gonna go back to all of last year's comebacks and this year's Cowboys game. When we ran the two minute drill we were extremely effective and that is when Sanchez was calling the shots.

You have a huge red zone target... but you don't throw to him in the red zone. You have one of the best playmaking wide receivers in the game... but you run him into the middle of the field. You have a sure set of hands for a quick 5 yard out pattern or slant... but you send him up the sidelines. The only person he's gotten it right with is Keller, and I don't really know why.

Hey, I know Sanchez isn't exactly lighting the league on fire but I'm very confident he would be a lot better if he had an OC that catered to him and his receivers rather than making him and his receivers cater to the OC.

[hbktonyb]

^Agreed.

I have a feeling the Pats/Bills game will be closer than expected. Touchdown win for the Pats.

[dduncan6er]

I think the Bills are very overrated. They beat 2 below average teams.

[hbktonyb]

Def overrated, and the Pats will win, but I could see the Bills covering the +7.5 points.

[dduncan6er]

I took the Pats in my pool where I pick with the spreads. But then again I always pick them no matter what the spread because I hate rooting for teams to score points against them. :lol

[hbktonyb]

:lol I do the same with the Jets.

[rickyh24]

^Agreed.

I have a feeling the Pats/Bills game will be closer than expected. Touchdown win for the Pats.

Pats will win by 17 or so.